Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Community’s Joel McHale: Breaking Yahoo and Show Reunions

Episode Date: July 13, 2021

The humble and hilarious Joel McHale (Community, The Soup) joins me this week and talks about everything from his experience and future on Community to his Pacino-level rage he has with inanimate objects on a day to day basis. Joel talks about his time and shared experience working with the legendary Chevy Chase and his chance beginnings on the iconic ‘The Soup’. We also discuss how he manages his dyslexia when working, unnecessary criticism from movie/show critics, and his new movie called Happily. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hi, folks. If you just join me and you're a big Joel McHale fan. You don't know who the hell I am, which is very possible. I appreciate you being here. I appreciate you giving me the chance. And hopefully after this episode, you'll listen to more of my episodes. That's what you hope. I really think this is a great episode with Joel McHale.

I'm not tooting my own horn, but it was one of my favorites. I felt incredibly comfortable talking to him. and he was open about just about to everything I asked him. Wouldn't you say, Ryan? Yeah, I would say he's very comfortable. Very comfortable. He sent me some gin. He sent me like this gin that I guess, I don't know if they give him money or whatever,

but a bottle of gin and glasses and stuff like that. It was really. Nice. I meant that he was he laid on the couch. He laid on the couch, so you had to sit down because he's a very tall, muscular man. He's a tall man. He is. He's in great shape.

He looked great. I was, I wasn't shocked. I was more shocked at how bad I look next to him, I believe. Yeah, well, he's still hosting television. You've got to look a certain way. Yeah, what are you saying? I have to shave. I'm saying he has to be more prepared for stuff.

Yeah. Are you saying that I have to get back in shape to do that stuff? I'm saying you look great the way you are. I don't know if I believe that. Now I'm in my head for the rest of the episode. Way to go right. Hey, guys, if you really like the show, please subscribe, write a review. If you watch on YouTube, you can write a review.

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And also where to zoom me, if you want to zoom me at sunspin.com and a bunch of other things after the podcast. But let's just get into this one. This is, again, one of my favorites. And we talk about everything. We talk about working with Chevy Chase and how, after Chevy's departure, how that affected him. And just life in general.

Let's get inside of Joel McHale. It's my point of view. You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. You're like the Henry Winkler of younger actors because you're a likable like I've never heard one bad thing like Joe McHale. I love Joel McAil. It's always I love Joel McAil. It's nice of you to call me young. Are you not young? No, I'm going to be 50 this year.

I'll be 49 this year. Welcome to our world. Well, doesn't that mean we have my brother always says you're 49 so you're well when I turned 40s like you know you're closer to 80 than zero. and I didn't like that so now I'm 40 I'll be 49 so I mean like what's the average life expectancy what does your producer say I believe and correct me if I'm wrong it's 271 just in case you want to talk through your penis I just aimed aimed the mic yeah that was weird what is the penis gonna say you know yeah what would the I don't know what's the average penis size yeah about 80 85 well I would say it's probably late 70s, isn't it? No, maybe it's 80. Is it 80s? Yeah, I think it's close to 80 now. I think it went down

with COVID and now it's popping back up again. Yeah. Do you remember where we met? Uh, the first time. Mm-hmm. No. I mean, I know where we saw each other. Uh, but was that where we met? I thought we met maybe. I don't know. I remember we were testing for the community. Yes. And it was a network test. It was just me and you. It was just the two of us. Yeah. And my agent kept saying, well, it's just between you and this guy, Joel McHale. Yeah. And I remember going in, but I remember talking to you and my brother picked me up from the audition and I said, he goes, how'd you do?

I go, I did great. He goes, what do you think? I go, no way. He was what do you mean? I go, this guy walked in there and he was just charming as fuck. He was handsome. He just, he just seems smarter than me. He was, he just, I'm telling you, I think he got the role.

I swear to God and then you got the role. I just, in fact, I remember going, I don't even want the role now because this guy, this is his role. Wow. That is, so my experience was, oh, I didn't get that. That's how you felt. Yeah, I was like, the handsomer, smarter, more charming guy went in. No.

And I swear to you. And then after there, so after I went in, the network was like, eh, we're on the fence. And then I was put, they put me on camera to record the scene because I think I was nervous. And then I recorded the scene. They showed the network, the camera scene. They went, okay. Were you nervous that second time? It's like, it gets worse.

I was like, what the fuck? At that point, I think I had gone over the material so much that I think I could have done it for anyone, like on five oxy suspended over a bridge. So, but I remember going like, oh, I have literally, by the way, I've never ever said this, that this thing out loud. I've never, like talked about like how we were up for the role. Oh, wow. Yeah, I never.

I remember talking about it to some people, but it was. just one of those roles I remember and I'm not being you know nice and like humble about it I just remember saying he's going to get the role I know he's going to get the role it just seemed if you and you watch the show it just fits I'm more kind of like you're dry rye you know you had that certain personality that you just kind of that leading man that all the stuff comes at you and you just bounce it off in a funny way I think we're just a little different I might be too much and you you're just it's like porridge oh I don't think you're too much I don't what no I'm not putting myself down completely. My listeners hate when I do that.

Really? Well, yeah, but I mean it. And I don't try to think, you know, I said something about being smart and they're like, stop saying you're not smart. I'm like, I didn't say I'm not smart. I just, I don't know. It's better to say you're not smart and then, then go, I know exactly what I'm talking about, right? I 100% agree with you. Because you become a dick very fast. I think it's very good to approach things going, I don't know everything about this. And so I'm going to approach it as I don't know anything about this. And so, yeah, that's why I remember seeing Akira Kurosawa, thank you, get his lifetime achievement, Oscar. And he was like, man, I have so much to learn from these young directors. Wow. And I was like, that seems right, as opposed to the

dick holes that are like, well, I know how it all works. I can see the entire thing, folks. It's okay to think you're good at something, but it's how you sort of present it to the world. Like, there has to be some kind of, you can't just say, yeah, I'm fucking great. I deserve this Oscar. I'm awesome. Yeah. Thank you. I deserve this.

And you guys did the right thing for once. Thank you. Good night. Yes. And it happens every once in a while where someone does get an Oscar. And then they give a speech where you go, well, that wasn't real, um, grateful. That just seemed like they expected it. And, um, they agreed.

Yeah. And even if you think that, you should be like, wow, the group of people I'm up against is bananas. And I can't believe I'm standing up here instead of like, yeah. First one. Or, yeah, yeah. Well, I'll tell you a story. I was, here's a double name drop for you. I have a game I play when I.

Steve Martin, go ahead. Well, I worked with him. As have I, thank you. I know you have. But when I named drop, I dropped something. So I was at Carrie Fisher's house. Oh, good one. Drop.

And Sharon Stone was there. Dropped another pen. Okay. And I ended up talking with Sharon Stone. and someone else that wasn't as big as Sharon Stone and she because why named them I mean that's a big list of people who is not as big as well known as Sharon Stone

no matter what yeah but Sharon's so it was really bizarre but she kept I'm not putting down I think she's a terrific actress she's very I'm sure very bright but she kept I swear to God may I die if I'm lying this is not just hearsay this is one-on-one she talked about her IQ and how off this charts brilliant she was oh and i remember going god if i said that well first i would i could

never say that but she kept going on about it and then other people were hearing this and we were just kind of like oh she's like yes the dot you know the you know my colleagues or whatever say that you're absolutely brilliant off the charts with your IQ and it was that it i'm speechless and i would say the one time her IQ was off the charts was in good fellas because that performance was a masterpiece That said, did you read the thing that she put in her book that she went in for surgery for to have minor benign growths removed? And the surgeon decided while she was under to go ahead and give her breast implants. That is a real story that she really told. And I look it up, go right ahead. It's in her book that she was getting some cysts.

removed that were benign. Right. And the doctor thought, you know what, Sharon deserves better. Or there was just some, you know, implants lying there. And he was like, you know, wow, we're here. I know I didn't ask her. And why am I, why am I put, why am I enlarging breasts here in this clearly probably like cancer center that removes tumors or whatever? And I'm just going to stick these in because they're here. And they go bad? I don't know. Then there was a thing she said about Basic Instinct, which was she had, this story is now pretty old because it was in Rosie O'Donnell's stand-up act, but it was a story that she told that she did, she was unaware of the shot in Basic Instinct where she unfold, you know, where she uncurls her legs and pulls them back

over. She would, she thought that was, they were just doing a test shot. It was such a bizarre. She was like, I was unaware they were doing that. And then of course, Rosie O'Donnell, in her brilliant stand-up said, like, you have to light the pussy. And it was like, you have to get a, like, a range for focus on the pussy. She kept saying that it was such a funny routine. Yeah, what was it? What was it? Like, all of a sudden the director goes, hey, so you did this thing.

What did I do? You crossed your legs one over the other and back and forth. And it was just like your legs were spread and we could, you know, we could see sort of like, you know, so we were thinking about using that. What? Right. No, right. That's possible.

And she's like, listen, as you know, in rehearsals with short skirts, I never wear underwear. But when we shoot, I put the underwear on it. That's how it works. It was such a weird thing to, like, those stories are like, of all the, just say, look, I did that. I wasn't comfortable, but I said, go ahead and do it. And you have basic.

No one was asking her, don't. And then you get like, Brett, so you had it. And I was, what kind of. There's a disconnect. Yeah. There's something. That's what I felt. So did you ask her about quantum physics or something?

So you're like, well. Let's talk about Rottica trajectory if you want to get down to it. Funny you said, I'm a Harvard grad. I have a law degree, and I'd love to get into this with you. Yeah. When you look at someone like, what's his name, Jeannie Bus's dad. Jerry. Jared, who was literally a rocket scientist.

A doctor. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Doctor science. Literally designed parts for a rocket and then decided, you know, it's a smart move, buying an NBA basketball team. That's smart. That's super smart. And at no point, have you heard that guy, scugg, like, just want to let you know.

I'm like off the chart smart and no one no one was questioning it no one was no one no one uh it's really weird do you know what happened later that night and i'll get off the Sharon stone thing somebody scored with one of the top 50 bachelors according to people magazine folks he's looking at top 50 bachelors from i think 2004 and it was me top 50 bachelors of people and he's uh it's a it's a jab that is not a jab that's a a ribbing and a compliment when you think about it. An acknowledgement. Yeah. Thank you. Look. Were you ever the top 50 people? Well, my wife would have been seriously pissed if I was one of the top 50 bachelors. Yes, she would have. What the hell? We're married. I have been in the sexiest man alive episodes issues a couple of

times. Wow. But I think that's what proved that I wasn't. I don't think that's true. The photos weren't. You were embarrassed? Yeah, it was all just below the way stuff. What? No, I I'm kidding. I was kind of like, how does that work? I was like, I think there's better photos. That's how I always look at it.

It's like when, yeah, it's, I always start going, well, you know what? I could have done better in that photo.

Weird out. I could have done better in that photo. Maybe the photographer could have chosen better. It's like I'm blaming the accompanist when I'm trying to do a singing audition. I mean, like,

if you did it right, then I would have, then I would have been great. You know, you say that you couldn't take good pictures, but I look at your physique. And I know Dax talked about this. This isn't a picture.

This is, this is just a youth. And I like you being comfortable. And, you know, Ryan has to resort to sitting on a, on a stool. I didn't real, I didn't know the setup. So now I'm mad. No, you're a tall guy. You need to relax. You need a lounge.

How tall are you? Thank you for asking. I'm 7-1. You were a liar. 6-4. 6-4. Yes. How long have you been 6-4?

Since I was a senior in high school. You just blossomed, bloomed. Yeah. My dad entered high school. and he fought he boxed in below 100 pounds when he entered high school and when he got out of high school he was six one uh he was tiny person that's what i was oh well there you go i was five foot two i think as a freshman i graduated five four and then my year in between college and high school i jumped up to six feet wow that's why i have back problems but that's that's probably why what part of your back

lower back no i can fix that i don't think you can't have had seven in spine surgeries. Well, you're right. I can't. I was going to say if it's just always been a chronic thing, then I can give you a number of exercise because I had terrible lower back problems. Okay. Well, I still want these exercises because maybe it will help. All right. So I would always blow my back out, my lower back and I would be, I just have to lie down for like two days. And I was like, I'm an old man. This is now 20 years ago. Right. And then I had kids who you have to pick up all the time and my back was going out. And then I did a movie in 2013. Thank you to Liverous from Evil. Thanks a lot for remembering guys. I do remember that. Thank you. I'm a horror fan. Oh,

God bless. And then this I, my back was spasming and I'm like, I don't know how I'm going to do all those action stuff. And then this tiny little trainer named Allie Gritz on the west side said, I'm going to fix your back in about two weeks. And I was like, okay. And then it was deadlifts. I started with barely even the bar. And I couldn't hardly do it. She's like, we're doing it every day. And then in about four days, like five days, I was like, I'm a young. man again. I was like, it's back. And now I have always had them in my routine. And I worked up to like, now I can do tons of weight. And I, whenever I do it, I'm like, all right, it's this part of your body that people always ignore. It because people are like, lift with your legs. Lift with your

legs. Be careful. And then all of a sudden you treat the lower back as a china shop and you don't ever use those muscles. And you should, if you isolate the muscles and do it safely, it's a new lease on life. So dead lifts. That's when you kind of like. Like you have the bar when you kind of bend your knees, you pick it up. You barely bend your knees. You know, can you show me I have a weight afterwards maybe really quickly? Absolutely. Absolutely.

Or you could send me a video or whatever you want. Seven surgeries. Seven surgeries, yeah. Fusions. Did you have an accident? I played hockey in sports my whole life. Well, that'll do it. Yeah.

But, you know how it's embarrassing because I think it happened in a grocery store. I was working at a grocery store. And we used to throw boxes off the truck in the morning. Yeah. And I remember them throwing a big box of hard canned peas. hard canned peas Hard canned peas Just a can of peas

Yeah boxes And I remember go Whoa that's weird You caught it or you I caught it But I something shifted In my back Well that's probably all

But it's not The grocery store It was a culmination of the things that led up To you catching that At the grocery store Yeah Stress

Dysfunction All these things just added up And then there was the moment Where you caught The very heavy canned pea box yeah pass the peas if you won't what year was that that was 19 or how old were you that was 1989 okay and so I had my first surgery and I was 18 wow yeah so I've had yeah all those since and they said it was

a slip disc a bulge disc bulging disc I had pain shooting down my leg shooting the doctor says he needs immediate surgery he's going to lose feeling in his leg and so I had ended up having the surgery wow yeah I don't have that kind of pain anymore but it just overt stiffness things Doing clean and jerks when I played football. Thank you. Yeah. This guy, this guy was a... Not a good football player. Well, you are a walk-on.

Yes. So which puts you in a category of, you know, canon fodder. So you are used to make the starters better. So abused? Yeah. In the most sort of like, yes, I would love to get out there and be abused by these Division I won all-American athletes because I want to. too. Yeah. It was fun as hell. I loved it. But, uh, but, uh, but the I would, they made us do clean and jerks and I pulled all my, the muscles in my lower back and pain shooting down

my, all that stuff, couldn't move, couldn't drive. And the weight coach was just like, come back in three days, don't move. And then it got better. And so, wow. So far, two people who told you to do something you listened and it worked. And it worked. Usually it's like, oh, I know this guy. He'll fix you. No, none of them work. Yeah. But again, it's not a safe sport. How big were you? You're like 245 pounds, six foot four as a walk on? I got to almost 250 pounds. I think I walked on at about 220 pounds. And I just ate and lifted weights and ran. Those were the days. And you could catch a ball. Are you still,

you're very athletic. I was good at catching the ball, but nothing compared to the starters. I was, I was, I, I just a, that was a dream.

They were so much better than me, Mark Bruner and Ernie Conwell. They went to the NFL and stayed many years and played in numerous Super Bowls. Did they ever invite you to come to a game? Absolutely not. No. I've kept in minor contact over with, But it wasn't a thing where we, like, remained close friends.

It was, it was, yeah, those guys, Ernie Conwell at the age of 21, was benching 520 pounds. Oh, my God. And he was cleaning and jerking a 365. It just doesn't sound right. It just doesn't sound right. He's cleaning and jerking. He had three and 66 pounds of pressure on it. Just jerking and cleaning.

He also could run the 40-yard dash in 4.5 seconds. And that is crucially. losing at 300. He was almost 300 pounds. Jesus. Hey, do you, this is back to the community days. You did that six years? We did it for six years. We were canceled twice, but yes, we did it for six years. Because the people, the fans brought it back in a way. Is that true or no? Well, yeah, because, well, when we were canceled the first time, uh, we went to Yahoo, because Yahoo somehow did some analytics that, that the show was critically acclaimed and popular enough for them to try their streaming service, which they then blamed us and Paul Feig for shutting it down,

which was unfair. But I like to tell people I shut down an entire streaming service. That seems like something pretty cool. Yeah. And your IQ must be off the charts. Let me tell you about it. My IQ was off the charge for when I did the movie. I'm trying to think of a Sharon Stone movie that when I did a sat. No, what was the one you did with Stallone? not the good fellows but the canina the canteena guys no not the canteena guys the uh what's what is it like a bomber they were like setting up no no no that was assassins with tonya vanderas that was shot in seattle i don't remember that uh camelot now what is it it starts with the sea doesn't it this is where the producer wait is it not is it not cliffhanger no it's Sharon stone and who

Stallone oh no I was wrong it was way off they had that shower scene that everyone was like They have a shower scene. They're doing. You know, you're crossing your legs right now. What? I did? Yeah. I can't do an impression.

You crossed your legs. I think we should use that shot. I didn't notice. Did I do that? Was I wearing underwear? Because as you know, during rehearsal, I do not wear underwear. But when I shoot, I wear underwear. That's the thing.

That's my thing. Oh, God. And thank God I got rid of these benign growths. Oh, my God. I was going to jump on that, but you did. You did. Good ground. You catch.

You know, something you probably don't talk about. The specialist. The specialist. I think it's the can't. Are you sure it's not the canteen? Are you sure it's not the Camelot? The Cantina guys sent it right there. Camelots canteen.

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Yeah, I talk about it all the time. You do. I never heard you talk about it. But he's someone I loved. I grew up with. I was like, this is my favorite. People used to say you kind of look like him if you, if Chevy and Barbara Eden had a baby. And I was like, cool.

I like him. I met him once. He was cool. And then when I heard all this stuff, I kind of got like, oh, fuck, man. Was he just a bastard on set that he just hated? And like, there's a lot of thoughts that go through. you read all the stuff that people say and you hear the media chatting about it. And then my theory was that in his world, he was like, I'm a movie star. I've been a movie star for a long

time. And now I'm a guy who kind of comes up and says a funny line and does whatever. And this isn't good enough for me. And I don't like being here. But that's just my theory. But I don't know what happened. So anyway, well, I think there was probably exactly what you just said. I, he was someone that did not want to be there for the hours that we were keeping. And the hours were long. There was no doubt about that. And, uh, and the hours were the hours because we were shooting a movie every week. It wasn't, it wasn't, uh, you know, documentary style, uh, or anything like that,

except for one episode. Uh, and so he didn't like that. And, um, there was no doubt. And I think he would absolutely agree. He sometimes could be in not great moods. and that did so he would have to be kind of shot out you know we'd have to get him uh you know we have to get him off out of out for the day because he didn't want to be there that long and so that that was a big problem was that incredibly frustrating as the lead on the show did you ever

have to have a conversation do they ask you to talk to him oh I would tease I would go I'm literally missing my children growing up right now uh but that's fine and Um, yeah, I mean, we, we, we, he was so funny on the show. When you look at what was on camera, it's super funny. It's really good. Uh, but he was always, uh, he definitely did not want to be there. That those hours. And I think there was some of the, he was a big, he obviously, the biggest comedy star of the 80s. He meant, or he was the highest paid at least. Sure. But between vacation and Fletch and, you know, the zillion. in other movies he did, Caddyshack and all that. Yeah, I'm sure there was some of that, but I know he was being well compensated for it. That said, you get someone like Alec Baldwin who did 30 Rock, who was in a big, huge movie star for a long time,

and then, you know, reinvented himself through that show. But, you know, it was unfortunate. And then Chevy was, you know, then he left the show under quite crazy circumstances. So it was, yeah, it was definitely, it could be tough some days. Other days he was great. Did it sever the relationship with the other actors? Is there anybody who has a relationship with him, who has checked in with him,

who still sort of like, hey, you know, you didn't like being on the show, you retired, you're older, whatever it is, or is it kind of severed? I don't know. I still have, I called him a few years ago when I played him in a movie. I was so jealous of that because I thought I should play him I was so jealous of you I really was like oh my God Joel so lucky

well I was the right height so yeah not that tall I'm only six feet thanks for bringing that up so yeah well you're back you would be much taller Chevy had a bad back he did have a bad back there you go another reason why I thought I should play him oh interesting I'm kidding

so go ahead you called him I called him I called him to tell him that I was going to play him you know like there's this movie going to be made and I'm going to be in it I'm going to be playing you and but he was happy that Doug Kenny was getting his uh finally his due uh which because Doug Kenny really is kind of like the Hamilton of 70s comedy as far as you know like with creating national ampoon and and then of course writing the animal house and and making catty shack and then dying very young uh but uh you know I then I call so then I called

him when the movie was made I was like the movie's coming out now so uh and what did he do he He answered the phone. He talked to you. He was... He did it. I mean, I would text him to let him know I was going to call him. But he seemed fine with it. And, you know, but we haven't spoken. I don't know if anybody in the cast has spoken to him in a few years. Right. I mean, it's been a while. But initially... I saw his wife, who is lovely. Right. But, you know, it was definitely contentious. But there were, I mean, if you watch him on the show, he's super funny. Super funny. I had, I wrote a treatment for a vacation sequel oh because they were back when they were looking for one they obviously made it and they

didn't choose us but i remember i had him and bev sort of attached bab was really on and chevi was on they liked it they loved the idea so my writing partner at the time chris macdonald we pitched it to new line and they said great pitch we we love this pitch and i thought this is a great fucking idea this is the last hurrah everybody goes on this trip together and they were just like yeah we don't want um chevy and be as prominent in the show we it's too much of them we want them you know wow and they're very little and what was your response to that well i guess this i could switch up the pitch you know but that it was part of like they go on this one last family trip together and you know chevy hands the keys off to it sounds great it was great and they

just and you get the mother from uh the woman from uh everybody loves raymond she was still a lot at the time. Oh, the mom. Yes. The mom and a couple of the other characters and kind of, I miss like Christmas vacation, the family all together and that's what people could relate to. So I wanted one last hurrah. And it was,

I really loved the pitch and we were a little, we were sad because we worked really hard on it, but they went in a different direction. And that's just the price you pay. Is there a world where you could make that movie with just people that are not associated at all? I know what the show. Sure.

I guess you could. Why not just do a great family vacation? And make that movie. Where the dad just says, hey, not Russ, but Roy, I'm handing the keys to you. This is our last trip. After this, this is our last trip.

And then, yeah. Why don't you play the dad? I'll play Randy Quaid. Wait, why do I have to play the dad? You think I'm old enough to play the dad. Well, I don't know about that. I don't know that people believe me as a dad.

I don't know. Do I look like a dad yet? No, like grandpa dad. You're right there. He just goes like this. Fuck yeah. Well, you look like Ryan's dad. No,

fence, but why not just make that movie, right? Go ahead. I mean, I think right here, let's pitch it out. Do you think people want to hear this? Yes. No. Okay. I don't think we should do it. I tried. I don't know. I don't think these people work anymore

and I just got sold, but I wanted to remake the movie Motel Hell. Oh my God. It's one of my favorites. It's an amazing movie. What a great concept. It's such a great movie. You guys, it's such an archaic, like beautiful old school horror film. That was one of the first movies my mom rented and made me watch with her when I was eight.

Oh my gosh. Yeah, I know. That's why I'm fucked up. Yeah. Oh, we would sneak down into my friend Jason Cusack's basement, like for his second birthday. And like, they had showtime and the mom would be like, do not watch Motel Hell. We know it's on. I don't know why they just didn't disconnect it.

But of course, we were like, she's gone. Motel Hell. And for those of you who have not heard of it or seen it, it is worth it. There's a few sort of, it's so fun. And so I was like, like to re, my friend Scott Derrickson and I who did Dr. Strange and he did, he did, he did, um, uh, ghost cops as my friend calls, um, delivers from evil. But, uh, we were like, we want to make it. And they're like, yeah, no. I love, look, I was like, what, we could just, here's, we can just get, we'll get you money. Like, this will get you money. And they're like, nah, no. Are you a big horror fan? I, I'm not a, I'm not like you in that I have this. I really enjoy that. me too good ones there's a lot of bad ones there's a many many bad ones but boy the the good ones are great yeah like it follows was a great little horror movie great idea yeah well i've written too and i'm we're just going out with them now because i'm a big fan i just love horror i just

i and i complain a lot because you know explain rotten tomatoes to me because i know it's supposed to be like well it's all these reviews that add up to get the mean of the you know the average of score and i go i don't believe it i don't believe it i don't believe that someone gave this an 87% there's no fucking way and it happens all the time do they does the studio higher like 87% is good right

and the movie's not that good so I watch the movie and it's like this is a 40 at best and I'm maybe a 50 but 87% so can you name names on a movie that you're like this is not an 87% or do you don't have to I don't want to put you on the spot I want to be that guy I just watched a movie called

you know I like I hate to bomb movies no maybe don't but you don't you know it's called something okay so that sounds good and I love that movie yeah and I gave it a 99 so uh well I feel like that happens a lot where I was like oh that's not as that's not as good as that thing just does it is interesting when the reviews are like 40% and then the you know then the people always look at the audience yeah always always look at the audience the audience are saying three out of five and the reviewers are saying 90% listen to your fellow fellow people. That's why Roger Ebert was such a great reviewer because he would

be like, and you'd see him and he's like okay, it's not the greatest movie, but boy, did I enjoy it? Yeah. He'd be like, there's some really great stuff and here's why it works so well, but it's not the great, it's not going to change your life, it's not important, but it's sure as hell fun. Have you ever had bad reviews?

Like really bad? I was nominated for a Razzie for the Happy Time murders, and which I took as a compliment. You should. But that movie got universally destroyed. And I think it became one of those movies that people enjoyed destroying. So, you know, once that catches on, even though, you know, wasn't as, like, there's movies

I've been in that have bombed way bigger, but nobody, they weren't even a blip. And people were like, oh, well, it was just a thing. But they, uh, boy, I'm trying to think of like a movie where, oh, when I got community, the review said of the pilot. said this show is really great it's got everything you need but it's never going to work because of the lead and that was just oh oh i've had shit like that i had something where i won't name the movie because the other actor in the movie is a good friend of ours and wouldn't not like me mentioning this but the review was the movie like they hated the movie they go so-and-so is not

funny. So and so will never be funny. And Michael Rosenbaum has never been funny. And I was just what the fuck? And of course you start going, didn't you see that? But I wanted to call the review. That is not a review when you think about it. I mean, God. That is that that is not a review of a movie. That is just insults, right? The guy just wanted to kill us. He just wanted Like, you're like, hey, what do you think of that? Reviewers? Do you guys, do you guys like that critic? And you're like, you see how he dresses? And be like, no, he dresses like an idiot. I was like, but what did he think of Event Horizon? Well, you know, his mustache is stupid. So when I see stuff like that or when reviewers are like, well, here we go again with this thing where this guy does this thing. And it was like, wait, so you don't like the movie because the person in it did something you didn't like? Right. So what are we talking about? Exactly. You don't like these people. For some reason, you have something against them. So you were never going to like this movie. Yeah. It's like that you can feel the glee when they get to take things apart. And I under, you know, like I hosted the soup where I enjoyed making. Ripping. Yeah. Making fun of Bachelor and Paradise because they were barefoot and having sex and they were high. And ripable. And they fell out of the bed and then their boob, you know, like whatever it was, it was like that seemed. But when you go like, then. Then when you see these guys that you can see them enjoying it, then I'm like, all right, well, you know, back to the soup. You had to take over for John Henson.

No. Well, he left. He left and then Aisha Tyler came in. And then it was, and that had been on for 10 years ago. Oh, see, I always think of it as John Henson and then you. That's how I remember. No, I issued it for two years. And at that point, it had already, like, talk shows were already waning at that point.

So in 2004, it was not even called the soup. It started out being called the what the blank awards, which was a very confusing title. And when the new boss came in, Ted Harbert, he was like, I don't understand what that. Did someone forget it? It was supposed to be like the what the hell award, the what the fuck award, the what the heck awards. And so he was just like, don't we have that talk soup name? And then that became that. And you're asked to do, how often do you turn shit down?

Because honestly, and you could be humble. You're going to be humble about this. But I know that you probably get offers for tons of shit, especially to host everything because you're so likable, personable. People want to. God bless you. But right, so you get a lot of offers to do so. Not as much as you'd think.

Well, I mean, you got the Joel McHale show with Joel McHale. Not as much as I would like. Oh, yeah. Car at sharks. You did the soup. You got, I mean, you're kind of. Crime scene kitchen. Crime scene kitchen.

We're on now. Everybody. Crime scene kitchen on now. Someone's bleeding out. Someone's bleeding out. It looks funny. It looks just like you have a good time. You have a good rapport with the people and you're just like.

They're very intense bakers and of course that's my opportunity to do. And it's funny enough, we were talking about what people wear of the reviewer, but I remember in one clip you were looking at some guy and he's like, I'm going to keep harassing you about your turtleneck. And he's the woman goes, well, look at you're wearing. Yes, but I'm the host. Right. So it's very, you know, she was just like she was hunting foxes in 1850 and he was wearing a wool

turtle. They're both brilliant bakers. but I was like, dude, and he could see the sweat, like, around the seams. And I was like, enjoy baking in here in your, I don't know, your ski chalet with all the windows open, but it's not. Oh, God. Happily. Happily. Happily.

Yes. Happily. I have to see that. Good times. Ben David Grubinsky. Of course. I know him. Ben David.

I've known him for years. And I'm going to watch this film. Yeah. Carrie Bichet is one of the best actors I've ever worked with. And she's, I don't know. why she's not a gigantic movie star. And then the rest of the cast is just... Was it a fun time?

Great fun time. Was it hard? It wasn't that... I mean, no, it was a... Ben ran a really tight set and the director of photography is a genius. And so everything was pretty well put together. You know, it's a very tiny little movie, but it was really fun to make. And the only thing, the only real hiccup was one of the sewage pipes burst in this super

modern mansion we were shooting in and the sewage flowed out all over the carpets and did it smell like shit for the remainder of the shoot it was pretty rough it was when you're doing a party scene and you're trying to eat and then all you're doing is smelling waste it's do you think chavi would have wanted to go home

uh well i don't know you all wanted to go home when that there was a lot of like can we keep the windows open during but then they dried it out and i don't know how we were walking around barefoot because we're all it was like a pool scene so oh god yeah amput i was amputated so it was bad i got to see this flesh aiding i want to see you amputated uh yeah let me know what you think yeah i love horror i watch it all the time and i'm always it's not horror happily it's not it no you just said you got your leg cut off no from walking in the sewage yeah oh was a joke yes oh yes i didn't get it i mean i didn't

i wasn't smart enough to well or i didn't deliver it i think you delivered it perfectly because i think you laughed yeah no i got it thank you jesus thank you josh hartnett's brother kind of does, right? That's a comment. You're a handsome guy. Hey, I got to ask this. Your body's so tight. We've talked about this, your body. I know. You look really great. It's really just desperation. But you, but you fast, right? You do this fasting thing I hear. I used to do a lot of that. Did that work? It worked for a long time and then it kind of started not working. Because I think I put my metabolism into a state where every time I would get, eat a lot, then it would be like, Thank you for this.

We're going to keep this as long as we possibly can. So you get bloated in things? I just noticed that when I would have a meal, I was like, oh, I'm not kind of maintaining the weight I want to be at. This is getting very specific guys. But now I find that small meals and just really portion control more than anything is. That's my problem. I try to eat big meals like three times, three times a day.

But you should have smaller meals like four or five small meals a day. I really only like dinner is the real meal that I have. So this morning, I've had a handful of nuts. That's it. Yeah. Are you dying right now? Blueberries. No, I'm so used to that that.

I mean, I'm sure I've had like five cups of coffee. Nice mug, by the way. To which are you referring? It's an inside of you mug. You can get on the inside of you online store. What do they retail for? I don't know, like 17 bucks. It's a good mug.

But right now, on sale for $11.99. And just swipe up. Swipe up. Don't swipe. Don't swipe. I'm not in control of that. And then you'll, you know what else I feel good about is 1199 for just this moment. Hint is a, it's hint. You know what? They don't give me any money, but I love them and they send me tons of water and

I really like their water. Hint's really good, delicious. Can I say, this is a pretty important statement. Sure, I'll cut it. That when people, oh, shoot, that when people like, like, you like Hint, right? It's great. It's very tasty. Yeah. And then people are like, he's getting paid for that. But they really just send you a bunch of, a few boxes. I don't get paid at all. They just send me when I need water. And that happened, I feel like that happens a lot with celebrities who, or people that have a presence on social media. And they're like, he's getting paid for that.

And then sometimes they do. And that's pretty obvious. But a lot of times it's like, no, I just, I just really like a Yeti mug. I just really, I went out and spent 30 bucks on it. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. So you really, are you saying you believe that they're just, they just like the product? What are you saying here?

Because it sounds like you're saying, yeah, this Yetty mug that I've used. I'm using. I am getting paid for this. Like sometimes like I'll post a photo or something like, oh yeah. Okay, I see. Nice lands end sweater. Well, uh, so. I get a couple thousand dollars for that. Yeah, that was that sweater definitely was the land's end. But thank you for the hint. I will definitely drink it soon. Wendy's most important deal of the day has a fresh lineup. Pick any two breakfast items for $4.00. New four piece French toast sticks, bacon or sauce

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case at a time. With deep research, dark storytelling, and the occasional drink to take the edge off, We're here to explore the wicked and reveal the grim. We are wicked and grim. Follow and listen on your favorite podcast platform. You know, briefly, I just want to talk about, you found out you were dyslexic after your kids. Yeah, after my first kid was diagnosed,

which it was one of those things I probably should have noticed earlier. How do you notice it? Because now that you know, you could probably tell the world the symptoms so that they can kind of look out for that, maybe. If you read very slowly and you can't spell shit, that's a pretty good sign. Well, shit. And when you look at words, you're like, okay. And people like, they're backwards.

I was like, ah, they don't really look at anything. And when you say things backwards? You don't. No, people are like, oh, they're backwards. I was like, it's not backwards. It's just kind of like, you know. Yeah, it's just, it doesn't look right. And so you read very slowly.

And I think at that time when I was a kid, it, you would, You did not tell people. You're like, I don't think I'm, so I like literally, I was tested. And they're like, he seems smart, but he's what we call a slow starter. And they, so, and then I told the doctor that who diagnosed my first kid. And she was like, put her head down. They're like, they told a second grader he was slow. And I was like, ah, yeah, that was not probably.

Yeah. And the, you don't think about that stuff. But like, when spelling bee days would come up, people would be, start doing like slow claps for me before I even started. talking because they were like spell thorough i'm like here we go and uh so i never knew that i said this day that's a tough word thorough yeah i always thought if you were trying to learn english and they were like here's thorough though and through they mean all different things yes so good luck i would say like you know how you get to ask somebody like is that a noun is that i'd say thorough is that a a person an artist um henry george

Henry David. Yeah. Thoreau. Thoreau? Thorough. Thorough. George Thorough good. Sad to the bone.

Yeah. But now, but you, but dyslexic people, they never lose it, but you definitely find ways to accommodate. So believe me, when the soup started, and they were like, okay, here's a half an hour of jokes on a teleprompter. I'd be like, well. How often do you mess up? So, uh, it's.

It took me four hours to get through 22 minutes of jokes if you take a cut out the commercials. It better take me that long too. Forever. So, but by the time, once I got into it, and the anxiety went down, which I had a ton of because I'm like, oh, but don't fuck this up. And I would like, show the clip and I'd be like, I'm doing well. And then, ah, and so I got, then we started doing the show live. So I began, you, I began like, hey, guys, I've got dyslexia.

I don't know how this is going to go. So I started using it as a promo. Right, right. And only one time did they have to. I screwed up and I was like, ah, fuck. And then all their eyes were bred. I was like, and they hit the button. And I was like, oh, I said fuck.

And they like, hit the button again. So it became sort of fun. And I became, I was like, I'm just going to use, this is the way I'm going to use it. And I always looked at David Letterman as the king of if he didn't like a punchline, he would point it out and say it for the rest of the show. And so then when that started, I was. was like, oh, just do that. Because then if I screwed something up, I'm like, remember that punchline I missed?

That would have been great. People would have loved that. That would have been a great moment for people at home to enjoy. Anyway, so that's how I adapted with it. And so to this day, I don't read books. I just listen. I mean, thank God for Audible. It's the, it's, it has changed my life because it's all I do.

Now, I don't even listen to music as much as I used to because I just, I, you just lie there and just listen to it a great story. When I work out, that's when I do it. Really? You listen when you work out. I listen to books when I work out. Don't you need something? Well, maybe you should listen to a reading of like the fugitive, so you have the energy.

I mean. Well, I do listen to a lot of Jack Reacher when I work out. Jack Reacher. Because those books are written so well and they move along so well that. Right. But sometimes, I decided I'd go back and try to listen to a lot of the classics. So once you get pretty knee-deep in Dostoevsky, and you're trying to keep track of all the names

and then all their nicknames. I had to, I literally would write it. I was like, I had to keep a list. I was like, okay, this is Misha, who has a nickname. And so, yeah, that one, that was. You know, we do a segment in the beginning, which we just started. It's, we didn't do this yet, but just, it's quick.

It's a mental health check-in. It's called just, how you doing? How you doing? And really, it's just how your mental health is now, how you're feeling, you know, whether you're anxiety, what you do for anxiety, what, what you're feeling now, right now, or this last week or like lately? Pretty good. I am, I, I, I like to think that I am like, hey, things are going fine and well, what problems

do you have? What do you have to complain about? But then I, you know, when I wake up at four in the morning in a panic, I'm like, what are you panicking about? What's going to happen? What's going to happen with the rest of everything? And a lot of that, a lot of like, am I ever going to work again? Are my kids going to be okay? How's my wife? I have a lot of that. And so that's not fun. Well, what helps that? You like four ambient and a shot of vodka. And then I can sleep for a perfect hour. You liar. No. What helps? Talking to my wife, I should probably go to therapy, which I don't, but I should. And, And, yeah, it's like, it's funny. I just read a Ryan Reynolds quote of all. And he was just like, yeah, I, he's the same.

He basically said exactly what he was like, I never turn anything down because I live in a constant state of anxiousness. And I was like, yeah, that's me. That's perfectly, perfectly described. And I am running. I am on a, I'm on a gerbils wheel all the time. Because when I first got here, when it started, I mean, because I was so. You know that moment you're like, I just want to work, I just want to work.

And then there's that flip where I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm working. It's happening. And it doesn't necessarily scratch the itch. But that attitude of hustler, like being an actor, you're always hustling. That's the nature. And I think sometimes that's very healthy. And other times it just keeps the pistons going the whole time. and then when you go on vacation, you have a panic attack.

So that train I have not really learned how to get off of. And I think you're like me in that I truly love working. I love it. I cannot believe people pay me to do what I love. But that is separate than the, you know, then just like keep the plate spinning all the time. Right. Yeah, I hear that.

For me, I, you know, the more I work, I just envelop myself. and things so much that I'm so hard on myself that I work extra hard and I spend way more time learning lines, getting in the character, whatever it is, that it's kind of hell. It's not really fun. It's not fun. When you're there doing it, is it fun? I'm there doing it. Yeah, it is fun because I like people and I like cruise and I like that kind of thing. And if it's a fun role, it's always good. You know, some people go, I don't care. I just like to work. I'll do anything. And I go, I can't do that. I have to really, I have to really just love what I'm, it's not just about love what you're doing, but love what you're saying, love the people you're working with. It's a bunch. It's a combination

of a lot of things. I agree. So, but that's a lucky thing. It's lucky enough thing to work, but a lucky enough to be on something that's good, that's extra lucky. Yeah. It's rare. I think people, yes, it's, it's so rare when you're on something really good and rare when that good lines up with a bunch of people that want to see it. Yeah, yeah. It's very, yeah. And, it's very, and, I can, I was like, oh, that's, that's, uh, what, even Seinfeld said, they're like, are you going to do another version of Seinfeld? And he was, he said to me like, it's really hard to hit four grand slams in Yankee Stadium again. And I was like, damn, that's a good analogy of how perfect. Perfectly he threaded all the needles with what an extraordinary show. Yeah. Extraordinary characters. And it was, you just universally loved. I think it's the same thing on a different level. I mean, obviously the community or smallville, weren't as big as Seinfeld. Nothing is. But on the same level,

what has you done since community? If that was that or what has he done since small then? I'm like, I can only really go down for the most part. I can only go downhill. I've tried about a million things. Yeah. I mean, it's for me to get better than that.

That's, I mean, that was a huge show. Community was a huge show. So I thought, that's funny because the whole time we were like, I think that's it. Yeah, this is it.

You know, we were told numerous times at the end of seasons. They were like, hey, can this last episode be the season and series finale. Like that's how, like just the confident, like the network just going like, well, we'll see. We might have something better. And, uh, we're like, oh, yeah.

And you all loved it. You wanted to be there. We all knew. We, the hours were bananas, but we all knew because we would do these table reads, which were, uh, so great. And then I would stand up and point at the, like the Sony and the NBC executives. And I was like, do not change. a word and then I'd walk out and

they were like hey you're like a bully I'm like yeah I'm this fuck yes don't do it don't change anything and so yeah and they didn't you seem like a guy that doesn't really when you get mad everybody goes oh there's a reason because you don't seem like you get mad very often if you lose your shit Joel's upset something's something's real I am I am amazing at blowing up at inanimate objects Like that right there, that mask of...

If the mask was not staying up on that thing, I might destroy it. You might kill Jason Voorhees. Yesterday, I was logging into a computer I hadn't logged into. And I, so I had, you know, you had to get the code from your, like, log into Gmail. And it said, do you, uh, and you put in your, and I accidentally hit reset password. And I, the Zoom call had started four minutes earlier. And I screamed, God damn it. And my wife came in and she's like.

where's the emergency and then you know when I explain it it's I sound like an insane person I'm like well I accidentally pushed reset password this that merited me screaming and uh she just rolled her eyes yeah she's like uh huh okay well I'm gonna go

you know deal with the education of our children so I'm like calm the kids down yeah I'm gonna go take care of real life problems so hey really quick and we're done we just there's some shit talking rapid fire questions from fans from Patreon I love love my patrons, go to patreon.com slash inside of you. But do you think they'll ever be a community reunion?

Because they're doing all these other shows. If you had asked me that a year ago, I would have said yes, but no. And I would have said like, man, who knows? But we did a table read a year ago. And it was so much fun. And Donald came, so it was great. And then Pedro Pascal played this part in a table read. And I burst out crying with my wife afterwards because I was just like,

missed all those people so much. I mean, just crying. And I was, I couldn't keep it in. And, uh, so I think now more than ever it's possible, uh, but as you know, uh, you need like millions of dollars. You need schedules to line up. You need scripts. I think you need the head of the whole operation to go, I just love that show. Yeah. Maybe. Right. You need, you need, you'd like, if you're building an aircraft carrier there's a lot of parts that go in and yeah you need an admiral to go like let's make it and uh uh so i would say it's it's more likely now than it was it's more likely well than it was a year ago okay all right uh but i uh you know again if someone out there has a like i don't know 40 million dollars guys come on you want to see a community reunion 40 mil

that's it i'm sure there's a couple of nine yeah there's a couple of hedge fund guys listening right sure they must be all right this is rapid fire with joel mccale just called shit talking with joel macal fast answers here we go rapid nico p i had the pleasure of watching you perform at theater sports here in seattle on many a weekend how did that help you in your career go hawks go hawks go hawks um i think the sheer number of hours of stage time really helped being on stage four nights a week for years and just being out there really helped me a lot and of course being there with a group of incredible improvisers Michelle Kay best prank that happened on the community set uh Donald would try to pull my pants down

all the time could do it now though could he uh because that shit would have you know that would fly years ago I would try that stuff well no I with my guy friends I did give him permission oh oh okay you can do it just I don't want to know about it just surprise no there was never like It wasn't like, like, it wasn't like a prank or like, we all spent, you know, like, I was like, I did it. I, I stuffed their trailer full of cotton balls that never, there was any, nothing like that. Right, right, right. So the pants, that's funny. I like the pants.

It is, yes. Sarah F. What was the funniest thing you saw while hosting crime scene kitchen? I think the disastrous desserts, there's a couple that are coming up that are pretty amazing. Did it just make you genuinely laugh? Oh, laugh so hard. And like, there's, I can't. Yeah, we ate raw eggs on this last one where I'm like, hey, let's hope we're not sick.

Steph A, are you and Ken planning on returning to the darkest timeline podcast? Ken is the busiest person on the planet. And so we would love to, but we, soon as August hit, he started the Mask Singer and I, then that ended and I did card sharks. And then so we just kept missing. So I would love to, but we'll see. I love that he crashed your interview with Kelly Clarkson. That was cute.

That was fun. So great. Even though I hate his guts, he's one of my best friends and I love him so much. Diane R. Did you have a nickname in elementary school? In high school, I was just called the asshole. No. Asthmael.

Yeah, no. My friend Adams-Tetezmik would call me McMail man. But that was about it. No, I didn't have one. McKale. McKay. Well, because I would have called you, Mikhail, yeah. Oh, yeah.

You never heard that one? No. It's too easy. It was because Carl Malone, who was on the Utah Jazz, was called Mailman, and I played basketball, so they called me McAmalman, even though I rode the bench most of the time. Seems like you rode the bench in college and football. I was on a very good basketball team. Wow.

Yeah, but I got in sometimes. You got in. You score. Our guard was, yeah, he was like six or seven. Lisa H., final question, what was it like playing Starman on Stargirl, and did you enjoy putting on the tights? Absolutely. when the two people would come into my trailer

to help me get into that thing. I felt like a superhero. I'd be like, there's a crime happening. Let me get two people to help me get into this thing for 40 minutes. Yeah, it's so much fun

on Stargirl. And a lot of my scenes are with Luke Wilson. Oh, man. He is responsible some, like some of the biggest laughs I've ever had in movies. Like that scene in Royal Tannenbombs and when he's playing tennis,

I couldn't control myself. I had to like just I couldn't breathe it was so funny so the fact that I've gotten to know him a little bit I'm just like man this is great and uh breck passenger who plays star girl is tremendous and she's like 22 and you know she's in every scene and she's great and then you do an Owen Wilson impression uh let's see he told us like I was like I'm just gonna get some groceries that you had the word groceries yeah yeah because no I don't know. It's like, does this thing where you just like choose everything. That's Owen. I'm doing Luke. I did Luke. You're doing Luke.

Yeah. So if Owen and Luke are talking was like, so, hey, Luke, you want to go over and add some like breakfast or something? Yeah. I'm, uh, I get some groceries. Well, you know, they have eggs here at the breakfast place. Yeah, I don't want those. All right.

I don't know. This was terrible. Good cool. No one's going to get it. I mean, idiocracy is going to be, is the, one of the most underappreciation. underappreciated movies. It really is. I remember I auditioned that and I was the biggest fail of an audition I've ever had. And Dax got it. Well, and think about to this day when dies are, oh, I mean, it's incredible what he did. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I remember I went in there

from Mike Judge and I just pictured Mike Judge as wanting something so off the wall that I remember I brought a statue of my dog. That was about this big. And I remember I just put it on his desk and I had this big dip in. And I was just like, you want to do that right now? You, you know, you want me and uh i thought i was like it was so out there that reminded me of stephen root in office space really who by the way isn't happily and he's a fucking genius he is a genius but i remember i called my manager at the time and i go i killed it right i killed it he goes mike was kind of scared like what he goes yeah he just said didn't know what you were doing he just was really it was he said it was one of the most uncomfortable things he's ever

What is this life? I got it. And I was like, so then I'm in. Yeah, no. But, you know, sometimes you go for it and you just fail. See, and then you tell that story. And I'm like, someday I'll audition for Mike Judge. See, that's how I look at it.

Just don't go too big. You want subtle. My long money. I have, I tweet that out. I'm just everyone's around. I'm like, I cannot believe how funny. That's amazing. We need to get some money.

And he's like, oh, it's so fucking funny. Do you ever see it, Ryan? Yeah. No, it's great. Yeah, it is. It is underappreciation. that's for sure my friend Sarah Roo's in that who else is in there um what's his name big musculos

Horatio Sanz is in there Terry Cruz Terry Cruz plays the president and of course Maya Rudolph is a who who should be given like 12 Oscars now for what she does yeah she's pretty genius well look this has been all I mean this

it feels like I'm glad you were comfortable first of all I don't think you'd be comfortable sitting you'd have been more uncomfortable I would have eventually have to put my legs up I even when I sit in movie theaters. I'm like, we're going to put my like. So those full back seats now, I'm just like, oh, they're great. So this has been comfortable for you. This is great. This has been great. It felt like just a conversation with

a buddy. It really did. Do you get ones where you're just like, and now another question? And they answered it. And now I have to ask them another question. And we're still trying to keep this ball in the air. It's happened. We've had some that are just a little all over the place. I mean, most of them are great. Most of their guests are great. But there's been a couple that I just have to, you know, you ask

a question. They're like, yeah, that was fun. You're like, holy shit. But what did you? And I'm going down. like I'm diagramming a sentence like you know and just right and you're like that's when you are dancing and then I'm like yeah and I'm like well thank you that was great like that was a 20 minute interview and then people are pissed because there's five ads in 20 minutes he was like yeah you didn't say anything yeah what was I going to do every so many baseball players they're like hey had a good game by the seventh inning you did that and just so how did you think it

went it's good how do you feel like you play tonight it's you know it's every game you know, important. Why do they even interview these people? Every athlete after the game with an exception of a few, it's the same answer. What were you thinking at that moment? Oh, that I just had to hit the ball.

Right. Okay, and then you did, but when you hit it, were you surprised that you hit it? Maybe it's the interviewer. Maybe they're not getting deep enough for that. I don't know. Maybe if the guy was just like,

I hate that guy. When he throws the ball, I hate him and I just want to hit him with the bat so I just hit his ball as hard as I could. All right. I love you. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me.

It's so good to spend time with you. Yeah, it was really fun. Your house is amazing, and I'm not kidding. Thank you. I really enjoy it. I've stolen three things. Hope you enjoyed that one. I know I did.

I know Ryan did. You did? You know, and when you have to edit these things, I think that you sometimes, if you really are excited about it, it's easy to edit when you're excited about a guest. Yeah, I'd say so. And when you're not enjoying the guest, it's probably not that easy. That happens, not often.

Because you have to edit it to make people enjoy it and be the best episode it could be and not be selfish. That's the wrong word. But you know what I mean? You can't be like, well, I don't really care about this one. So I'm going to give it a half-ass job. No, I give every edit the same care. And it shows.

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