Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Corey Feldman

Episode Date: November 5, 2019

Corey Feldman (Gremlins, Stand By Me) joins us this week and opens up about the trauma he endured in his past as a child actor, but more importantly, how he’s been able to take that pain and transfo...rm it into a passion for preventing others from experiencing it. Corey shares some of the intense measures his parents took to ensure he would become a successful actor, while also talking about what it was like as a kid working on set of classics like the Goonies. We discuss the stigma many child actors have to face in the media, his relationship with his late close friend Corey Haim, and his outlook reminiscing on films like Stand By Me, Gremlins, and The Goonies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:06 I'm good, Michael. Yeah. Thanks for having me. Yeah, and by the way, you know, Rob, I think a lot of people knew Rob. He was my engineer for quite some time. But, you know, Rob got really busy, and he's doing great, and we're good friends. And, you know, he helps me out when I need him, and he wasn't fired. You know, he's been working on my good buddy Dax's show, and that kind of get, you know, Dax's, it's a very busy show.
Starting point is 00:01:29 they travel. They do all these things. And we're on good terms. I love him. I wish him the best. I wish Dax the best. Dax is one of my best friends. And everything's great. But I have Ryan here. So say hello, Ryan. Hello. There you go, folks. A man of many words. Ryan, I just thought you were a great guy and we were having art night at my house because, you know, from my therapy, I like I do this art night. Yeah, it's been fun. Right? Yeah. And you guys come, you and Amanda, and we have a really nice time. And then I started thinking and you were talking. I was like, well, I could use an engineer because Mia does in love, and I didn't want to have the same engineer for both shows, and you just have a good, you know, disposition, if you will. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Oh, thanks, man. Yeah, you seem, you're a humble guy, right? Yeah. So anyway, I'm grateful you're here. And today we've got a great show. I want to say thank you again for listening to the podcast, folks. I know you're driving to work or whatever you're doing. It means a lot. You know that. Please subscribe or tell people to subscribe. We're growing. We need you. The new podcast is called in love with Michael Rosenbaum and Chris Sullivan. You know him from This Is Us. He was just nominated for an Emmy. He's amazing. And the show is a lot of fun, too. We've got a lot of great guests. So please subscribe and write a review for that. It really helps us. We're just getting started with that one. My guest today, we're about to get inside of Corey Feldman. You probably think you know everything about him, but you don't. What would you find most interesting? Oh, with Corey? Yeah, without giving too much more.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Um, he is, uh, well, he's, he's, he's very passionate about what he's doing. Um, and he's in, I didn't know, I didn't know a lot of things about him. You know, I'd seen the movies. Um, I'd, of course, you know, I'd heard about the reality show. So I had, you know, some of sunshine coming in. I never thought I'd be sitting on a couch next to Cory Feldman. So this was just a lot of good information for me. Yeah, because, you know, you're younger than me. What are you 30s? 31. 31. So you missed that whole thing of the 80s. where, you know, I obviously still am living it with my music and everything else. But what I liked about today's interview is we talked about things, some crazy shit that happened when he was young, crazy shit that happened on sets, working with Spielberg, working with Richard Donner, working with Schumacher, talked about Corey Hayne. We just touched a lot of different things. And we get pretty deep. And I'm very grateful that Corey came on and he was so open.
Starting point is 00:03:46 His wife, Courtney, was lovely. She was here. I think you're going to enjoy this. Let's get inside, Corey Feldman. Inside of You're listening to Inside of You, you're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. And what's that good for, my brother? Hardcore shiat. It's good for your shitting?
Starting point is 00:04:19 Well, it is, actually. It is, yes, yes. It does definitely help give you lots of fiber, yeah. Watermelon juice. Yeah. Isn't there too much, can't you? Like, you know, when you're a kid, you just want to eat watermelon and you get a stomachache? That looks like a large glass of stomachache.
Starting point is 00:04:31 You know what? Let me tell you something. Rumors and myths, my friend. Rumors and myths. You can never have, you can, oh, yeah, you can never have too much good stuff. How much, how many glasses? You can have a lot of bad stuff, and that can hurt you. But you can never have too much good stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:45 That's true. So watermelon is a fairly harmless fruit, aside from, you know, It might give you a little gas or it may give you a little, you know, little extra, a little extra loosening of the stools. Are you a gassy person? No. No. No. I am.
Starting point is 00:05:02 So that's why I can do it because it doesn't really, you know, have a toll on me. But that said, we are all about juicing and my wife is a Whole Foods raw nutritionist. Really? Yeah. Courtney who's here with you. She's a health coach. This is what she does for the. living. She actually teaches people how to live on whole foods, plant-based diets.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Yeah. Listen, I'm agreeing with you because I finally got a nutritionist after two years. Ryan does not have a nutritionist. Correct, Ryan? No, correct? Not a chance. Not a chance. But I just felt like shit all the time. I was bloated. I was farting people out of the room. They weren't smelly. I'm not a smelly fart. In fact, I went to a colonoscopist. Does that what you call them? Yeah, a colonoscopy, yes. Pist? Well, I would think that it would be more of an Annal doctor. How about we call it? Mass doctor.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Okay, yeah, that's pretty much. Gastron. There you go. Thank God for you. Well, done. You don't need any of that. All you really need to do is drink 16 ounces of celery juice on an empty stomach every day. And that will help.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Yes. This is already worth it. This podcast is already, let me tell you something. Telling you something. This is the miracle cure of the day. Celery juice. Celery juice. I've heard a lot about that.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Yeah. It's everybody's doing it in L.A. In fact, it's hard to get. because it's out of sale. It's out of stock everywhere. It's like literally you go and you buy bunches of it. And so like they keep like raising the price and raising the price because the demand is so high. And the reason why the demand is so high is because everybody is doing this right now.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Let me let me tell you something. A lot of people, my listeners. So this is, you know, it's called inside. You ask you, where does this reach? This is a very loyal following. You know, I can tell you after how many listeners. But a lot of listeners. At least two or three.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Well, you know what? Oh my gosh. At least a handful. You know, they're so loyal, and it really, this podcast, I've noticed it really helps people's lives. Like, I get emails that are just these hard felt like this, you know, hearing someone open up about, you know, Jennifer Love Hewitt or Kristen Bell or talking about their life and talking about, like, real shit. And so that's sort of what the podcast says. You know, Sean Aston got you to do it. We were at a con.
Starting point is 00:07:10 I was like, I'd love you to do it. And you were like, you know, Sean says I should do it because you like Sean and you trust them and you've known them a long time. Yeah. Well, Sean's like one of my closest friends ever. and we were brothers till the end you know so when he says oh yeah michael's a good guy he got to do his show man he's oh no he's the best he's the best he said that yeah is what he says and he goes and he says he's got a huge following by the way he said let me tell you man i did a show and for like literally like months months afterwards people come up to me and say oh man i heard you on michael's show
Starting point is 00:07:41 he talked about his mother's mental health her like bipolar and like manic and just was so open and honest and you know I'm getting to that but that sort of that's what the show is about but the the you know the Hollywood thing my listeners who are listening right now are going oh here he goes with the Hollywood like juicing and like because I talk about shit I didn't do any of this until this is in Hollywood this is called living well I know you're right have to be in Hollywood to do that's that's exactly right and I'm telling you proofs in the pudding and I was someone who was against it I didn't want to do it and then
Starting point is 00:08:12 I started eating healthy taking things out of my diet I don't even touch dairy no bloating anymore. Amazing, right? Amazing. Well, I do a little bit of dairy. I'm like an 80% lavo-o-o-o-o-o-vegetarian vegan. They call it lacto-ovo, so he does do milk and eggs as well. But the thing is, I've been a vegetarian since I was 12 years old. You really haven't touched meat since you're 12 years old. That's true? Yeah. What was the last thing you ate? A chicken McNugget. Well, that was a good thing to go. like you're like I'm out now I cheated I cheated on a chicken McNugget did you throw up that's why I remember it uh no but I just remember really feeling disgusting afterwards like physically yeah it was just like
Starting point is 00:08:55 oh why did I do that I can't believe I did that that's so gross and then that was it and that was when I was 13 now what's amazing is you know you think because you've had like this is another thing today I was thinking about how do we how do I sort of navigate the waters here on course there's no waters to navigate here's the floodgates once they open then they just open but i you know what though i was like you know what i don't think because look you've been in the media you've written a book you have you have a band are you're in tons of movies you've been about any you've been talking about you you've you've been praised you've been slammed you've been thrown around and you still stick it out and i was like going well everybody's talking about this and this i go you know i just what i want to do is
Starting point is 00:09:42 I want to talk to you sort of just about your life and like, you know, having such a... I mean, you talked about a lot of this stuff, but there are moments in your life that I think make you, you know, they're significant things that happen to as bad or good that change the course of your lives.
Starting point is 00:10:00 The things that I'm doing right now are the things that are going to identify who I become and my place in history forever, for perpetuity. because what I'm doing now is significant and what I'm doing now is the most important work that I've ever done because it's fighting for children's rights and it's fighting for truth and justice
Starting point is 00:10:24 to prevail on this earth something Lex Luthor should know a lot about how dare you how dare you but truthfully I mean it's it's you know there's nobody out there doing it nobody out there did it so when I jumped in this game And I made this decision that I was going to really not just come forward with the truth, but help change the laws so that we can put these dudes away. That's a big part of it.
Starting point is 00:10:53 But the other part of it is the awareness and making people own this. People need to own this. I think that's important. Do you understand? Especially like on this podcast, we talk about mental illness. We talk about anxiety, depression, all these things. There's nothing more mentally deranged than wanting to hurt a child. There's nothing worse.
Starting point is 00:11:11 There's nothing worse at all. So I think that's what people really, they want to hear people being honest, opening up. And so as a child, you look at your career and I'm like, oh my God, I've seen him in that. I'm like, I love that. I love stand by me. I love fucking goodies.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I love Lost Boys. Friday the 13th chapter 4th. But see, none of that means anything. I know you're going to say that, but let me say it does. It does mean a lot to your fans and people who grew up with that. I love my fans, and I respect that. But that doesn't mean that I sit there on some high horse and go, oh, yeah, yeah, I did this and that. Like, screw that.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Of course. But that's like stepping stones. It's all stepping stones. But the real work is what I'm doing today. And even as far as my acting, the real work is what I'm doing today. Because as a kid, yes, I did a fine job doing what I had to do. But I was a trained monkey. I was a child slave.
Starting point is 00:12:08 So I was doing what I was literally trained to do my whole life. Talk about that. I don't know anything else. From the beginning, like when you say you don't know anything else, was it hard? Like, I mean, I don't know anything else. Like my first memory. Have you read his book? Yeah, I did not read.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I will read it. You should read it. Choreography. Yes. Yes. The, the point is, is that I have no memory before going to work. The first memory I have in my life is going to my first commercial. And everything beyond that is based on my,
Starting point is 00:12:38 career my career was the signature of time so like you know most people go oh what girl were you dating in this you know grade or what what who is your best friend during this year or what team were you playing on or you know these different markers that people have in their lives of like this is where I was or this is who I was don't have that all I have is what movie was I working on what TV show was I working on what thing was I doing in the public eye you don't remember at all your parents you know some nice things that happened no nice things no no nice things no nice things you never experienced like going to disney world as a child um yeah well i did because my sister was a musketeer so yes i went to Disneyland all the time as a child but we were they kind to you your parents
Starting point is 00:13:26 no they were terrible people so it was just about get them a job how do they know you were uh you were good enough or that you well my sister my sister was doing it first so she was already a star And did she feel the same shit that you felt? Yeah, but it was different. There wasn't as much pressure, you know, she wasn't living up to anything. Like, for me, I had to beat my sister. That was the game, right? Like, I had to be better than her, of course.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And it wasn't a friendly competition. No, it was my parents put us, you know, pitted us against each other, you know. How do they do that? Well, because they say, you know, well, she's going to get, you know, she won't get beaten today. And she's going to get an extra toy because she did well and she got her audition. When you say beaten, since you were like a little kid, that shit was going on? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I was locked in a room. Okay, first of all, people don't realize they ask me how I became a singer. And I tell people, the truth of the matter is I was singing before I was acting. Because when you're three years old, you can't memorize lines. You know, you're not reading a script because you can't read yet. So how do you get a three-year-old to convince people that they're the ones for the role? so my mom was smart enough to say well he likes music his dad's a musician so we're going to lock him in a room we're going to make him learn these songs and then he's going to go in on auditions and he's going to sing for them
Starting point is 00:14:49 and his cuteness is what's going to win them over so it didn't really matter if i could remember a line or not because i could do this song and i could sound cute doing it right so that's all it mattered so she would have me memorize these songs and I would go in and that would be my audition process and I would win the jobs by singing so that's actually how I started my career
Starting point is 00:15:11 Jesus Yeah So everything is just it's just work Put on a happy face That was one of the songs Do you feel like you were going through the motions Do you even know Like at the time I can't even
Starting point is 00:15:21 What excited you Did you feel like there was I mean besides being on a movie set Was there anything else Was there like a good teacher or some good people that kind of helped you along the way that said, hey, you are loved, you are? Well, I don't know about love necessarily.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Love was a very empty, a very empty slot in my world until, I mean, I had great grandparents, so let me give you that. Like were they older or were they great? No, no, no. Were they great, great, great? No, they were wonderful grandparents. I did too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Fantastic. They were the best. I mean, my grandfather was a psycho and he abused his children, which is why my mom was abusive it's you know it's handed down generation generation but he loved his his family more than anything so he had the traditions and he had the the morality but he was just raised in an you know an era where that's what you did you went crazy on your kids and you beat the hell out of them and that's all he knew so he was you know he raised his children that way and then he raised his grandchildren that way and everything was through fear and intimidation where my grandma
Starting point is 00:16:30 god bless her soul was the sweetest woman ever she was just the sweetest kindest she was always there for me did she know what was going on yes yes did she she was there she was on the set with me like she would they would take me from my mother because my mother was very irrational and you know psychotic i mean she she she wasn't rational so if i was going to get to set on time or if i was going to get to work every day you know there had to be somebody responsible behind the ship you know you know, so they would take over and I would go stay with my grandparents for months at a time or sometimes years at a time. And they would be the ones taking me to the set every day and they'd be taking me to my auditions every day and they'd be doing all that stuff. Not because they wanted to,
Starting point is 00:17:14 not because they necessarily agreed with it, but because they knew that was the only way to keep her happy. Because if she didn't see that happening, then she would take me back. And then I would be having to, you know, be forced to live there. And by the way, there were little brothers and sisters running around. So I was also the dad and I was the caretaker. My dad left to date. My dad left to date.
Starting point is 00:17:38 So I was literally raising two babies feeding them, diapering them, doing all that stuff at eight years old. This is why, because I just went through stuff where I just,
Starting point is 00:17:49 you know, I talked about it open. I went to a wellness center and it was like, I'm going to take fucking care of myself. And it was the first time I ever felt safe. But you hear all these things
Starting point is 00:17:58 and we did this thing called EMDR, which I talked about. which is like you know it's a post-traumatic stress disorder like when people suffer from that there's this thing that they can do that helps and I was like ah you know veterans see horrible shit I right I'm not worthy of of even looking into my life because people have that it's so I know yes though that's I know it's BS but I had to learn that your problems are your problems and they're real and you cannot neglect them because it will affect you physiologically mentally it's just debilitating and so it was the first time dude I was I cried for
Starting point is 00:18:30 for like three weeks and I never cry. I'm always like the leader of my gang. Oh, it's like, hey, I'm organizing this. Tough guy. I'm the tough guy. And all of a sudden, I'm falling apart. And it's like, and I just wanted to keep crying. I wanted to feel more and more because I felt like a human being. Yeah, because you were opening it up finally.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Yeah. And it took, dude, I'm 47 years old. It's so healthy. When did it happen for you? When did after all this shit? By the way, did your grandmother, did she ever step in? Did anybody ever step in and say, you're not doing this anymore? No.
Starting point is 00:18:58 No one ever just jumped in. said i see what's happening and it's over no god no did you want them obviously you wanted them to all i wanted was love all i wanted was to be loved so it was enough of your grandmother i would go to my my grandmother was sweet but she wasn't my mom and she wasn't my dad she was a surrogate so i would go over to my cousins my cousin and i were best friends we were the same age and he had a great family until his mom died of cancer at 11. So when I would go over there before 11, I would lay there in bed and I would watch him getting tucked in
Starting point is 00:19:38 and I would just lay there crying because I was just like, I want that so bad. I want that feeling of, you know, that connection. And I just, it was not available to me ever. Like my just never happened. My mom never said she loved me. The only time she ever said you love me was after she felt. finish beating me, you know, like, let me know that it was over and that, you know, it was
Starting point is 00:20:00 okay, you know, because she would beat me up and then she would be like, you know, I love you though. You know, and that really worked kind of way. How does that fuck you up? Right. Right. So you could imagine I could be severely damaged goods. I don't know how you honestly, how you could even get past that. Like, I don't know, like you hear about these stories, but you don't, people don't know, especially like in the 80s and 90s and all of a sudden, he's done drugs and he's doing this and he's he's he's all you here was like oh my god that guy fell apart but if they knew the shit that you went through well yeah but here's the other thing why does every child star end up derailed you don't think there's some kind of a coincidence here think about it real deep
Starting point is 00:20:44 how many child stars go on to have illustrious careers and be given carte blanche as adults no matter how talented they are no matter how much they achieve every single one gets shut down unless they've been protected by someone so you've got very few examples Drew Barrymore well she was protected by Spielberg
Starting point is 00:21:07 he kept her under his wing like a dad wow because she needed it because she didn't have a dad in the world so he became that surrogate father for her and guess what nobody was going to mess with Drew because it was Stephen's little girl So there's people that get protected.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And once they're protected, people don't touch them, hands off. And those are the lucky ones. Those are the lucky ones. But everybody else falls by the wayside. It's not just falls by the wayside. It's intentional. This is an intentional thing that has been going on for almost a century in this business. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Like, we can go back to Tatum O'Neill. We can go back even further. we can go to Shirley Temple So are you saying pretty much Don't let anybody act At a young age until they're an adult I wouldn't let my kid there
Starting point is 00:22:01 Parents nobody acts until they're 18 Well look at that's I mean there's got to be something people out there's There's art right and art has to imitate life So at some point you need child actors To portray those functions Right okay But that said we don't need to put them on pedestals
Starting point is 00:22:18 And we don't need to make them so famous that there's no taking it back because that's the sin the sin is making a child so famous that they don't have a choice in life that they can never go and live a normal life they don't have that option because they'll be humiliated the second a movie star goes and tries to work at a regular job what do you think happens to that person besides the shame and the humility that you feel as a loser I'm actually trying to think of other other haven't succeeded yeah but on top of it you've got people in there razzing you and going like oh my god what a loser what are you doing here you know what I mean so you have to put that into perspective it's impossible it sounds impossible if the work dries up
Starting point is 00:23:03 you're done that's it the fact that I'm still here the fact that I'm still working the fact that I still have a good financial you know life and and resources and and I'm active and and do moving every year and all this kind of stuff. I mean, it's one in a million. Inside of you is brought to you by Quince. I love Quince, Ryan. I've told you this before. I got this awesome $60 cashmere sweater.
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Starting point is 00:27:24 you have fears but i i think gosh man i the guy just whether you like him whether you don't whether you like what he says whether you don't you say what you want to say well the problem is people don't really know what i'm saying because my voice has been so filtered and edited and changed. Sure. Because I watched the Matt Lauer, which was completely ironic after what happened with Matt Lauer. Right. Exactly. But I watch it. But that's funny you should say that. But that's the way it happens. Barbara Walters, Matt Lauer. Because they let you speak, but then they start saying, well, why do you need $10 million? Right. I've seen a ton of people. Why do you need $10 million? Right. You want to make a film? How do you make it? Well, you can make an independent movie. And you're like,
Starting point is 00:28:02 well, that no one sees. Right. I want people to see this. Or how about I want to make it crappy? And I wanting to have no sets and no costumes and no great actors and you know sure you can make it for a million dollars but is it going to be any good not to tell the movie that i'm trying to i mean you're talking about rebuilding goonie sets you're talking about rebuilding michael jackson's house you're talking about you know i mean these are massive production days massive production days you can't do that movie right if you had a movie to describe money behind it period right and you're and the movie that's in your head what would that movie be like for instance well you have to read the book I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah, it's the book Right, but what would you compare it to That a movie that's been made Not comparable to whatever But like, if you think of a movie Okay, my mom used to make us watch Mommy Dearest Oh yeah And she thought it was really funny
Starting point is 00:28:51 Jesus Christ Yeah So she would sit there and she would say You know, she would make me and my sister Call her Mommy Dearest because she thought it was funny And she would tell us how easy they had it She'd be like, look at this
Starting point is 00:29:03 This is a joke People think this is abuse this is a joke because she knew that what she was doing to us was so much worse so much worse how you didn't turn to be out to be like the mendendez brothers and your sister get together and kill your mother i don't know how you didn't do that well because i remember there was yeah because i have love in my heart so the point is it's all about forgiveness it's all about empathy and it's all about love and unfortunately i'm one of those guys that just wears my heart on my sleeve and I just, I give people chance after chance after chance to try and save them.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Like who? Whatever it takes to save them. Anybody from my parents to my girlfriends to, you know, people that screwed me over. I was cheated on 18 times in a row, 18 different relationships. Imagine that. So you're finally away from your abuse and you're trying to move on with your life and find real love. And then every girl you fall in love with cheats on you and breaks your heart. So I went through that too.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I mean, how do you have, I mean, trust issues. Do you go to therapy? I got a therapy. Well, I did for many years, yeah. Have you ever tried cognitive behavioral therapy or have you more time? I don't need it now. I'm good. I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I'm a very happy person and I have a very happy life and I have a beautiful family. So I don't have anything. I have no regrets. But that said, it was hell. I made it through hell. And I'm on the other side of it. so there's nothing anybody can do to me anymore there's nothing anybody can say about me there's nothing anybody can do to me that's going to make me feel less than i already do
Starting point is 00:30:45 or i already have so once you get to that once you get to that point it's all about love and it's all about forgiveness and it's all about self-healing because if you don't look inward and you don't heal yourself from the inside out you're never going to make it There's no way. What do you tell fans, like when you're at these cons and you're at a Q&A and they say, tell us about the time on Goonies. Do you remember fun times? Sure.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Do you remember, oh, my God, and then this happened and Sean did this? When Sean and Key and I are up there and we're telling our old stories and stuff, it's great. What's the best? What's the story that you haven't told? Are there any stories that you haven't told on Goonies? You've told them all. Of course. Come on.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I mean, you really have told them all. Of course. By the way, did you ever see Steven Spielberg flip out? No. Everyone ever asked you that? Never. Never once. Never raised his voice.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Never once. How do you not flip out one time? He's, I mean, he's, you know, a genius, obviously. Yeah, but geniuses flip out. Because when you got, you know, 50 million dollars to play with and, you know, you make the schedule and nobody's going to shut you down because you're Steven Spielberg, right? So you go over budget, you go over his schedule. Nobody cares, right?
Starting point is 00:31:59 It's just carte blanche. But didn't you want it? hear once so you wish you had the memory of hearing junk cut it out oh i'm sure i heard that plenty there was plenty of that but that was coming from richard donner not from stephen donner was doing the yellner was the yeller yeah was donner a yeller oh yeah what's the what's the biggest yell you remember of his the biggest meltdown donner did um he didn't really melt down he just was always in command always authoritative did ever yell at you of course Did it make you upset?
Starting point is 00:32:33 There was one time he made me cry. What happened? He was just being really, really intense one day, and he was just screaming at us. And I think it was on the guny, on the pirate scene when we're up on the deck, something to do with, you know, maybe when I was putting the jewels in my mouth or somewhere around there. And it was just a really intense day. And I remember him just flipping out and just like screaming. and I was so sensitive. And I had a great love and respect for him.
Starting point is 00:33:05 So it would be like, whoa, where is this coming from? You know, why are you taking this out on me? Did you say that? Well, probably not. I was 12. But, you know, in a 12-year-old version of it. And he, you know, he had to own it. He had to sit down and say, you know, I'm sorry, kid. I didn't mean it, you know.
Starting point is 00:33:23 And you cried right in front of him. Yeah. In front of everybody. Well, I think we had a private talk. I think it was just him and I. And the same thing happened with Robert. Reiner. Same thing happened with Joel Schumacher. Same thing happened with most directors because they get insane and they get crazy and there's a bunch of
Starting point is 00:33:38 kids running around. They want to choke them. But at the end of the day they can't because they're doing a job and we're all doing a job, right? And I think that that's that's real love somehow. You know, that passion for, you both share this passion for the art and you want it to be amazing. Were you incorrigible? No. Were you sort of, because I was There was shit I did as a kid that I mean, I probably, you know, I got paddled as a kid and I got, there was a lot of shit, man. Well, here's the thing. I was fucked up, but here's the thing. I mean, obviously, if you're coming from a place of like no love and you're getting abused all the time and you're a slave and all these things and you have no freedoms, of course you're going to have some sort of outward, you know, expulsion. It's just natural. It's a natural recourse. It has to happen, right? It's like a simmering point, you know, of a brew. You just, you know, it's got to let off the.
Starting point is 00:34:30 steam. So, yes, I was wild and crazy and would, you know, talk in class and get in trouble all the time, all that stuff. All the, all the, you know, telltale signs of an abused child that's trying to reach out for help. Did you have ADD? No. You really didn't. No. No, ADHD? No. I got a little of that. No. I'm a focused dude. I'm a very focused dude. Even from being a kid, like, I guess maybe they didn't have that then. They had it. I remember hearing about kids that were on riddling my mom used to make me take speed pills same kind of thing okay that's that is the same yeah because i was a you know chubby kid right i don't remember you being fat or i was never i was never i was never i was never that i just don't remember that but but i had like a
Starting point is 00:35:15 baby fat right and so she would say like oh you're gonna be fat you're your fat so you're a pig you're this you're that i would have to the director ever like in front of you say this kid is really fucking talented in his own way right in front of your mom did your mom ever look at and go I'm proud of you you were great not one time that's I know isn't that fucking something when you just can't you can get all the abuse in the world you can get told you're stupid or you're bad
Starting point is 00:35:41 or this but not one time in all those movies where you were great you weren't good you were great I thought yeah did you know it did you know you were good no you never felt like I'm good well then how did you go on set were you nervous on set doing lines no I knew I knew I was good, meaning like, I knew that this is just who I am. There's no, you don't think about it.
Starting point is 00:36:02 It's second nature. It's like breathing. It's like putting on your pants. You just do your job. You never got nervous. Was there one scene ever in your career that you go, no, I can't do this right now. The camera's moving in. I got 35 mils coming right at me.
Starting point is 00:36:13 It's so close to my face and action. Never. Never. Even now? No. You got it. Yeah. That's what I do.
Starting point is 00:36:22 I mean, that's amazing. What I'm hearing is. I've done over 100 films, man. Yeah, I know. To never get nervous, to always have, I get nervous all the time. I'd have speeches and I'd be like, fuck, you guys have to get that close? You know, when I get nervous, I get nervous the first time I go on stage for a live audience to perform my music, that makes me nervous. Or if it's like a sitcom type situation and we're doing it live in front of an audience, then I might get nervous like, oh, God, I don't want to miss a line or, you know, mess up or be the one to ruin the scene or whatever, you know, that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And I remember Robin Williams telling me, you know, about the butterflies in my stomach because he would say, do you get the butterflies as we were standing, you know, backstage before going out together? And he'd say, do you get the butterflies? And I said, what does butterflies mean? And he goes, well, it means like you feel all weird in your stomach, you know, and you feel like really nervous or like, you know, like you're worried about what they're going to think of you. And I said, yeah, I guess they feel that way. Do you feel that way? And he goes, I feel that way every time I go out.
Starting point is 00:37:25 And I said, really? And he said, yeah. And I said, okay, well, then I guess I could feel that way, too, and that's okay. So I allowed myself to feel that, like, anxiety. Oh, God. So Robin ruined you? Why the fuck would he tell you that? No, but he let me know that it was okay to feel.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Anything. Right, exactly. And so I said, okay, well, then I'll feel that, you know. And then I remember getting nervous with him and sitting there, you know, before we'd go out and getting all hyped up and, you know, like, okay, well, do it let's do it you know yeah and that was fun this it's it's crazy because you don't talk about yourself in a sense that all the abuse all the horror i don't hear you breaking down and crying about that except you said you know sometimes you'd watch your friend while he slept and he was tucked into
Starting point is 00:38:11 his bed and oh when i was a kid when you were a kid yeah but now as an adult you're very mindful and present about everything around you right yeah because look at what i've been through i don't wish it on anybody but I don't regret anything even all the pain even all the trauma because it's helped mold me into the person that I am today and I'm pretty proud of the person I am today because I'm doing important work I just want to be able to fulfill that work I want to be able to help as many people as possible there's no ego in it for me I don't I don't care about that stuff I really don't I really don't and that's why I say all this stuff I did as a kid was great but it was a job When I work now, when I do work as an actor, I do it because I want to.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I do it because I have something to bring to the table. Do you enjoy acting still? I love it. Love it. Love it. You love learning lines. You still go with learning lines? Oh, I don't even.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Yeah, I'm a different beast. Do you have a photographic memory? Yes. You really do? Yes. So. Fuck you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Hey, you start training your brain in three years old, getting locked in a room. and not being able to do anything other than you can't come out until you have every word of this page memorized frontwards and backwards that was the words i was told front words and backwards if you can't say it backwards then you're not done how long would it take you to learn three pages of lines two minutes if i gave you something you could probably learn it not that you'd have to do it right i would give you my version of it that's how i do it but what if somebody wanted it direct like if it's word for word direct then maybe an extra 10 minutes That's it.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Yeah. You don't stress over it. No. You don't freak out over it. No. You own it and you're done. Photographic memory. That's rare.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Well, you know, look, here at the end of the day, here's what it does. Anybody can train themselves, to be honest, to do this. It's about before you go to bed at night is when you should read your script. Why is that? Because it's the last thing you have on your mind before you go to bed. So it sits on your subconscious and it puts. plays like a tape over and over and over right so you go to bed with it on your mind you wake up with it on your mind first thing in the morning i'll be so right before you go to bed you're getting tired
Starting point is 00:40:37 you sit there for 20 30 minutes you read over your lines and you wake up and they're coming up i don't just read over him i will go block out the line before me and then i will read just the line before me and make sure I can't see any of the words for the next line. And I'll be like, okay, this is the line before me. I've got to know my cues. So I'll read the line before me, and then I'll expect myself to read it back verbatim. And if I don't, then I keep going over it and over it and over it until I've got it.
Starting point is 00:41:06 But like I said, that process is diminished through the years because now it's just like, you know. So I literally will look at a page three, four times, and that's it. And I come in the next day and I go, I need to make a couple changes here or there, you know, like, I want to try this or I want to try that or da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And they're like, okay. And they think I spent, you know, weeks just studying. You're like, no.
Starting point is 00:41:29 No. I don't like it that way. I mean, to me, it's like I become the character. I don't play the character. I become the character. So when I'm on a set and I'm playing a serious heavy-duty role, like I just did this movie called Corbin Nash, which is my most recent film that's come out where I play a transsexual. vampire you're in drag every day yes 24 7 like from the moment i get to set and i start putting on the makeup you don't see corey cori does not come back if you have an accident at all yeah whatever it is
Starting point is 00:42:03 i'm just saying whatever it is i personify that person so when i am when i become the character i don't break the character and that's not all the time like if it's like a regular character then I'm you know whatever we have our conversation and then you know okay action and you know I'll be joking one minute and then go right into the scene that's fine but if it's a character that is a huge departure where I have to really make sure that it's real that it's believable that this is this is a real person I can't allow myself the opportunity to veer off in some way Because all of a sudden, like, you know, you're not thinking like the character thinks, and then you're in this makeup, you're in this prosthetic, you're in all this stuff, and then you don't think the way the character thinks, and it's immediately noticeable, right? So to keep it true to form and to keep it virtuous, I just keep that character all day long.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Do you ever get moody? Sure, of course. You ever say, come on, let's go. What are we doing? Of course, right? You got to get mood We all do You ever say hey
Starting point is 00:43:16 It's 10 o'clock You guys got 10 minutes here No no no I'm not I'm not like that I've seen things Yeah I'm just not that guy Look at
Starting point is 00:43:25 I'm always happy to stay As long as I need to stay I'm always happy to What's the most fun you're Now when people are like You know hey wave this Wave that Wave this
Starting point is 00:43:33 You know Business is business You go Donner on him half Donner I'm gonna go Definitely never Schumacher You never want to go, Dick Donner, though.
Starting point is 00:43:43 You never want to go Schumacher. Schumacher is louder than Donner. Come on. Oh, yeah. What is the worst thing he ever heard Schumacher say? Well, I saw him smack an actor in the face. He smacked an actor in the face. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Who? Brooke McCarter. Smacked him in the face. Yeah. And no one said a word. No. Did he do it because he's like, I'm going to get you in the moment? Yep.
Starting point is 00:44:03 But he didn't tell him. Right. May I smack you? No, no. It was like, give me it. Give me it. You're not getting it. I'm not getting it.
Starting point is 00:44:10 I'm not getting it. Be scared. bam you know like that and it worked no it didn't work he was he pissed beyond pissed yeah it was a bad day did anybody on set like nowadays that you won't it would never gone yeah no but no one said a word of joel schumacher this was the 80s yeah so you saw all sorts of shit oh yeah talk about women getting harassed it was probably i mean everybody did people just do what they wanted everybody yeah It was crazy
Starting point is 00:44:42 Just a complete lack of respect Free for all Total lack of respect Casting couch All that stuff Drugs everywhere Um You know I only did drugs
Starting point is 00:44:52 For two years of my life man That was it That was it So Again stigma Stigma stigma You know People have this
Starting point is 00:45:00 You know They like to say Oh Cory Feldman bad boy You have to You think Cory Feldman You're like Oh He probably did drugs
Starting point is 00:45:06 For his whole life Party animal Right That's what people think Right Why do they think that Because they believe everything they hear. No, why?
Starting point is 00:45:14 Why is that condition out there? Because it's just like people want something to say. They want something to talk about. No, Michael, no. Talk to me. No. It's so much deeper than that. It's a very specific thing, okay?
Starting point is 00:45:27 They do not want you to grow up and have a voice. They do not want you to be able to have credibility and be taken seriously when you start reflecting on the things that you experienced. What year did you start acting? Probably college, really. Okay. So you were too old. You were too old.
Starting point is 00:45:50 But if you were a kid in this business, I guarantee you these words would have been said to you. At some point, stay away from that guy. He's a creep. Because we all heard it. Every kid that ever walked onto his set was told that about somebody at some point. Stay away from that guy. He's a creep. He can't be trusted with children around.
Starting point is 00:46:10 and then you would go uh okay but he comes right over to me and starts being friendly and he's on the set and he seems like a really nice guy so why are they being so weird about him that's how it happens but now you've been warned right so it's at your own discretion so everybody looks the other way this is the way we're trained so what happens is and every kid actor and their parents have had some form of this some form, whether it's stay away from that guy or whether it's somebody did something to me that was inappropriate, what should I do? And the agent says, well, this is very serious. And we do need to take care of this right now. So what we're going to do is we're going to have to file a
Starting point is 00:46:56 production report and then we're going to have to call SAG and we're going to have to call the Directors Guild and we're going to have to call the producer guild. We're going to have to file reports with all of them. We're going to have to file a police report. We're going to have to do all these things the proper way. But just understand that before we do all that, the second I start making those phone calls, this production is going to get shut down. And your reputation will be known forever as the kid that shut down this movie or this TV series. So good luck getting work again because you're forever going to be scarred. as being that kid that ruined this movie
Starting point is 00:47:42 or that shut down this job so that all these people lost jobs. Same thing with females. Of course. It's called intimidation. He hit on you, he harassed you? Yeah, well, if you talk about it, you'll never work again. Right. So this is how it happens.
Starting point is 00:47:54 This is how it works. And so once they turn 18, it's like, drug problem? Yep, yep, yep, look at that. He's a drug addict. He's a drug addict. He's a drug addict. What a waste of life. Don't listen to that kid.
Starting point is 00:48:06 He's fucking. up but that's all bullshit because the truth of the matter is why aren't you there reaching out to help this kid why aren't you lifting them up why aren't you bringing them back why aren't you making sure that they're welcomed with open arms I got sober after two years and still today people call me a cokehead see what I'm saying two years 30 years man 30 years since I've done hard drugs 30 years since I drank 30 years since you've drank right you don't drink that's how fucked up the perception is that's incredibly fucked up because I think if you ask people that didn't know even my listeners and they took a poll right and they said
Starting point is 00:48:47 these actors or whatever Cory Feldman has he drank a two years B 10 years C his whole life none of them would take two years right right perception and well there's one more big truth I've never done anything that anybody can ever go back and go What about that time you took advantage of that girl? Or what about the time you took advantage of that kid? Or what about the time that you screwed that guy over? Or what about the time that you got money when you shouldn't have? Nothing.
Starting point is 00:49:18 My morality book is 100. Like, I don't have anything in my consciousness that I cannot say I've owned, I've dealt with, I've made amends. And it's over. But there's nothing that I feel. remorseful about so there's nothing that they can use against me all they can do is perpetuate lies and rumors because there's no fact there's nothing solid that they could ever say that would denounce the things that i'm talking about i mean so you're a survivor obviously that's just call it what it is i mean well we have we all are survivors right we have to we have no choice
Starting point is 00:50:02 some of us have it easier some of us have it harder but at the end of the day we're all in the game together what do you know I'm going to ask you just a couple more questions because this has been pretty fascinating because it's kind of like you know I said the floodgates were open right well the floodgates have opened
Starting point is 00:50:21 but it's not about you know sensationalism yeah I didn't want to do any of that I was like you know I met you at a con you were friendly and sweet and I was like you know and I loved your work and I'm like what the fuck this is this is my podcast let's let's have a conversation talk real shit you know and that's that's what I want and this is exactly what it is and and I think people are
Starting point is 00:50:41 gonna just really love this I love this I hope so I'm glad you're here and Courtney I'm glad you're here I hope it's educational it absolutely and I want I just want people to understand fake news is real but it's not the fake news that the president talks about it's the opposite let me ask you this couple questions you can just be quick about because I have to ask a couple of questions because I loved Corey Hame I loved him I thought he was great I loved everything he did. Were you, I mean, when you heard the news, was this something that a big part of you wasn't surprised?
Starting point is 00:51:13 When I heard the news, he was supposed to be going to my dentist appointment that morning. That's how close we were. Your dentist appointment. Right. Because he called me two days before and said he had a tooth infection and that he was in pain. And he said, you know, I can't get an appointment. Is there any way you could help me? and I said, well, I actually have an appointment
Starting point is 00:51:36 Wednesday morning, so I'll, you know, forego my appointment, you can have my appointment. And so that morning, my assistant left my house to go pick him up because he didn't have a vehicle, and she went to go pick him up to take him to my dentist. And on her way there, she heard it on the radio. And I woke up to Sean's text.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Sean had already hit me up at like 5.30 in the morning. And I'm not an early riser, so I normally don't get up to 11. But I, you know, 8 o'clock in the morning, I'm like getting woken up with all these things blowing up. And all of a sudden, my brother is banging on the door. And he's like, hey man, you know, your brother's dead. I mean, how hard did that hit you? How long did it take to, I mean, probably still, you know, you never get over it. You learn to live with it.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Right. It's family. It's family. But it's more than family. family. It's the fact that I didn't know anything about this stuff, right? He put it in my head. He's the one who introduced me to it all. He's the one who told me about his rape. He's the one who told me all of this the first day that I met him because he needed something solid enough to know that he had a human being that cared about him as a human being. The first day you met
Starting point is 00:52:56 Corey Haim, he tells you these things. Yeah. And that changed my life forever. Because once I had that information now I had the same target on my head and I've had to hold that for 30 years and that's why when this movie is done this documentary comes out and my entire truth can be told it will be not only cathartic but it's a gift to him because this is all he ever wanted was his truth to be told what's the what's the one thing you remember him that just makes you smile when you want think of like great things like what's the nobody could make me laugh like he did what was it about him that made you laugh so hard he's just genius he was a genius just comic timing we just when we would get together we would have each other crying you know what I mean and laughter
Starting point is 00:53:48 so hard like you when we when we got back together to do the two quarries the TV show um the first six months he was great he was sober he was sharp he was on it and it was the funniest work we did ever together so good and it was all improv but so good like we'd write the scenes we'd say okay this is this this is the structure this is the storyline for the week this is the episode and then we'd work within that you know structure and then everything else would be improvised we would have the crew laughing so hard that they couldn't hold their cameras up and the director the jeb show everybody they just they were just just losing it you know I mean, it was just like, it was so funny,
Starting point is 00:54:34 but the problem was we weren't, they didn't want a comedy. We wanted a comedy. They didn't want a comedy. They wanted sensational, right? They wanted to put us further down the rabbit hole. That's all they ever want is to put us further down the rabbit hole. So,
Starting point is 00:54:50 with that said, we were producing. So they couldn't get us this time, right? They couldn't screw us over. And you made the decisions. Right, until Corey screwed up, because once he started relapsing and, using on TV and everybody could see him drooling on himself it's kind of hard to cover that up
Starting point is 00:55:07 did you ever get mad at him see what the fuck are you doing are you kidding did you see the show yeah i did see that i just don't remember exactly oh yeah no it's been it was like 2007 2009 2009 it got ugly i mean it started off as a comedy as a loosely scripted comedy that was the whole point to look like a reality show it wasn't real we were shooting in vancouver pretending it was LA in a house that was a rented house that was supposed to be my house. I mean, none of it was real. It was all scripted until he would forget that we were doing a bit. And then all of a sudden he'd start fighting with me for real in the middle of a scene. Did you guys ever fist fight? Oh yeah. Of course. You were physical with each other. Of course. Did you see, did you ever rule no
Starting point is 00:55:53 faces? No. You know brothers, man. When brothers get at it, that's it. Well, I never punched my brother with it. I wanted to. Oh, well, Well, you got a better family than I did. Me and my real brother have gotten fizzed to cuffs, you know, so. Who would win? You did. You took him down. Did you know when to stop?
Starting point is 00:56:12 Like, leave this guy alone. Well, here was the thing is that, like, okay, so I didn't know my own strength a lot of times. Because I would, you know, go through these phases where I'd be working out a lot. And he never really went through that. Like, he would, you know, get fit. I mean, he'd lose, like, 300 pounds. playing racquetball or you know tennis or roller blading or whatever however he would do it he would find a way to do it night frisbee that was his big thing he liked the glow in the dark frisbee um but
Starting point is 00:56:42 that was his secret to losing hundreds of pounds you know crazy right but he would do you left did he like to play some sports or like whatever whatever right so we were doing a scene and blown away and it's a choreograph fight scene and it's like i hit him and you know whatever and then he hits me back and we'd jump on top of each other whatever um and so we were like rehearsing it and he like brought his face in too close one day you know and i hit him by accident and to me i was just it was like a barely like you know a graze yeah a graze and he went flipping back behind the couch he literally like did a backflip did you feel horrible terrible but he came after me like you did that on purpose you're trying you know and that was foof that was a tough day on set but again he already knew
Starting point is 00:57:40 what i did not trying you know what i'm saying so it's like as much as he would get in my face and mess with me he also knew that you didn't want to push it past a certain point how much you love your music i love it how much you love playing in front of people love it you got one of the angels yeah right Courtney former former angel former angel look i know you love you love you love you love music and you're you are fearless when i watch you you you just get up there and you just you're you dude you fucking get up there and whatever you want to do in the there's like no i don't see any fear no it's it's great like i you know i always have perform with fear you can pretend no i'm scared shitless but i'm gonna come on i've i've worked like fear based and then once i get into it sometimes
Starting point is 00:58:23 i'm like a little better but you know i mean yeah but you just look when you're using it you're still using it i guess so yeah do you're gonna keep performing how many albums are you done three never stop three albums i'll never stop i've done six albums six albums yeah and i'm working on a box set right now very exciting project what comes in the box set are you gonna have like little like little books little things that no one would have it's gonna be so good we're we're putting out it's a box set for my first album so my first album was called love left and it came out in the 90s early 90s like 93 but it had singles and music that was created in the 80s and some of it was for my films so i did music for dream a little dream two rock and roll high school forever those were my first three vehicles that i did music for
Starting point is 00:59:11 so we're putting out a love left 30th anniversary edition box set and what we're doing is we took all the original masters and don dockin took them and baked them in an oven and then digitally transposed them and transferred them into digital cleaned up the tapes meticulously and then we're able to actually transpose them into a digital machine so that you can individually take the tracks and clean them and mix them again like start from scratch right so we're taking all of the tracks from the original album we're remixing and remastering it so it's up to date then we're taking songs that have never been released from that era like for example uh my very first single was called something in your eyes and it was for the dream a little dream soundtrack unfortunately it never made it on to the
Starting point is 01:00:10 soundtrack album but it came out as a single under the soundtrack so it was a vinyl single but it was not actually connected to the album so for the first time in history we're going to digitally transfer it so that it can be available on iTunes or it can be available and, you know, whatever, right? All right. When is this coming out? All this. Come on. So badass. Just tell me when it's coming out. It's going to be like a little more than a year because I'm also trying to finish the documentary. Right. So you're doing the documentary. You got this album coming out, the box set of all crazy shit. So right. By the way, what's your... And I'm going to be
Starting point is 01:00:45 dropping a new single. The Mickey single, it's a completely modern version, a completely modern twist, like almost punk rock. and this guy's 70 years old and I produced him and I was like dude grabbed your balls I want to hear you screaming and he was doing it
Starting point is 01:01:05 25 years old and he sounds so good you're all right you're making me feel selfish now because I'm going to like Cora can you please get Mickey Thomas on my podcast
Starting point is 01:01:16 Oh yeah I can't What do it? Oh for sure Dude are you kidding me I'd love to have him I know all his songs Yeah he's a legend and he's such a gentleman
Starting point is 01:01:24 He's such a great man Such a great man Oh, okay All right What's your Twitter handle Instagram all that shit? At Corey underscore Feldman Blue Check
Starting point is 01:01:33 Any cons coming up? And then as far as the Instagram is C dog C dog With a double G 22 C dog 22
Starting point is 01:01:43 And this has been a real And I'm allowed to use the double G Because you know Snoop dogs on my last album I was just going to say that I'm allowed I'm allowed Got it got
Starting point is 01:01:52 Go for it no Go for it. Go for it. Yeah, you. Fuck you. I know. Well done. Well done, Michael. You know, this has been a real treat.
Starting point is 01:02:00 You know, I know a lot of people want to hear, you know, my friend Ethan was like, you got to ask you about Goonies. Well, you told us a Gooney story. Yeah. You told us a little bit about things like that. By the way, all these movies, was there any of that was a surprise hit like, this won't be a hit? And it became a hit. Or did you know.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Oh, no. I mean, Goonies, we knew was going to be a hit. You knew it. Of course. Yes. It's Steven Spielberg, Richard Donner. Of course it was going to be a hit. Did they pay you a lot of money to be in that?
Starting point is 01:02:23 No. They didn't. No. Nobody got paid for that show. Terrible money? Good residuals? No. Nothing. When you get paid small money, how are you going to have good residuals?
Starting point is 01:02:30 Well, what was the biggest thing you got paid for? The biggest money you ever saw. His parents took all his money. Yeah, my parents took it off. Didn't you have like a million dollar thing and there was like $40? I had a million dollars by the time I was 14 years old. I went to the producer's pension health and welfare. And I had 40, very good.
Starting point is 01:02:44 You did your research. Yes. I don't know why. Maybe I have photographic memory. Oh. Do you call that. buddy look all back i mean look you but you're an icon i you know everybody knows cori feldman everybody i mean the movies you've done they think they do that's true that's really true and look you have
Starting point is 01:03:02 the interpretation that they've been fed through the machine right but that doesn't mean that's me but look i love that you're going with your gut you're trying to make the world a better place i really feel like you're trying to do the right thing you're that's obvious you're devoting your life to all these things and you know it's really nice to see because you know um um I'm glad you came on. I'm glad Sean told you to do it. Yeah, I'm glad I came on too. Thank you for having it's been really nice.
Starting point is 01:03:28 And you're a good interviewer. Well, thank you, man. You know, you're an actor and you're, you know, jumping in the seat here and it's nice. You know, I, thank you. It means a lot to me. And I'm just, you know, I just enjoy this. I really enjoy, like, sitting down and talking to people about their lives. Yeah, you're good at it.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Well, I appreciate that. Well, if you know anybody else who wants to come on the podcast, Corey. Oh, well, I'm sure they'll be a very long list, very long list of people. I'm sure would love the opportunity. What would you think? Did you think, oh, fuck, he's going to ask me about Michael Jackson. He's going to ask me about all this shit. No, I don't predetermined things like that.
Starting point is 01:04:00 I don't, I don't ever do that. I don't go into things like that, no. If I didn't think it was going to be a cool situation, I wouldn't be here. Have you ever got, well, I appreciate that. It was a really cool situation. And if it's a weird situation. Do you walk out? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Have you ever walked out? I either walk out or I'll just be like, I don't, not answering that. Sorry, not interested. whatever you know i mean like i'm not a shallow person have you ever said something i'm not going to see her and talk about b s who's the worst interview that ever interviewed that when i say worst the one like notable that just you were like fuck this person narwhar the human serviet who's that you know that right exactly exactly it's a it's a underground underground he just was rude oh awful disgusting why'd you do it didn't know
Starting point is 01:04:51 you get trapped did you feel that kind of anxiety you're getting like to get the fuck out of here no I was a phone interview and you know how you just get that feeling that like somebody's mocking you and they're you know not taking your answers seriously they're trying to get newsworthy things
Starting point is 01:05:07 let's get a clip of Corey flipping that or Corey talking about this he was the one who I don't know if you'll remember this is way back in the 90s but there was a huge controversy over it because he got me to say something off color about the fact that Gwyneth Paltrow and Matt Damon and Ben Affleck had all just won for the...
Starting point is 01:05:27 Goodwill Hunting? Goodwill Hunting. There you go. Gwyneth Paltrow was in that? Well, Shakespeare in Love was the same year? Yeah, yeah, it's the same year. Wow. So they'd all just kind of, you know, become this thing.
Starting point is 01:05:37 This was the new thing. And so he was asking me, you know, does it make you jealous? Does it make you upset that these people are all succeeding when you've worked so hard for this? And now you're watching all these other people kind of pass you by and da-da-da-da-da. And he was just really trying to goat me. for something and I ended up falling for it in some way said something that was not what I would normally say or not how I would what did you say I don't remember exactly I don't remember exactly I just remember that it was it was something that was off color but then he twisted that and took it out of
Starting point is 01:06:07 context and made it even worse than what I actually said and it got to the point that like it was a huge press story and I had to write a public apology to Matt and Ben and uh Gwyneth. And Gwyneth actually called me. This is how classy she is. She called me. We've never met. She called me and she left a voicemail on my answering machine saying, thank you so much for your letter. It was so sweet. I made sure to talk to the boys about it. Nobody's upset. We totally understand. You know, press does this stuff. So please don't worry. We love you. We respect you. That's classic. It's all good. Yeah. It made me feel a lot better. Well, I feel good that you were here today. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:06:51 And thank you for, thank you again for doing this. Courtney, thanks for sticking it out. The watermelon juice is done, though. Yeah, we wiped it out. We took it down. Who cooked? You obviously cook, right, Courtney, because you're a nutrition. We both cook, but.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Do you ever give him shit like, oh, you know what? There's not enough salon trill there. You ever do that shit? Oh, my God. No, no, no. She is hardcore, man. She's got her list of, like, shopping stuff that she's got to get every day.
Starting point is 01:07:18 You know, she's a health coach. So I got appendicit. when I was 14 years old after getting like migraines and like digestive issues and stuff like that where I had to get like an organ of my body removed and I was terrified because I'm like what the hell is going on with my body this has never happened before like I got an inflamed appendix I had to get emergency surgery after the surgery because it got a severe infection and that was like my wake up call into I need to do something to like prevent Yeah, but it took another two decades before she met me and I said you got to go vegetarian
Starting point is 01:07:56 And get off all those drugs You run a lot of drugs? Well, she was on medication I got you, I got you. Yeah, that an ex-boyfriend convinced her she needed to be on Yeah None of it was true. She was fine.
Starting point is 01:08:09 She didn't need any of it, but I got to get you two on the other podcast of me and Chris Sullivan in love with Michael Rosamum, Chris Sullivan. It's just about couples and I'm single, he's married, I have my ex-girlfriend on. I'm going, why didn't it work? His wife is on, you know, just it's not being grateful and all this other. Yeah, yeah, good. All right.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Hey, thank you so much. Thanks for allowing to decide on you, Cory. Thank you. Thank you. All right. And thanks for inviting us. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:08:49 about the times we hear and what a shame it was throw it all the way trying to make me come home seeing things a little different but you never opened your eyes to see just how happy you'll make me feel like a little boy
Starting point is 01:09:19 I feel like a child Bigging out in the backseat You know Hi, I'm Joe Saul C. Hi, host of the stacking Benjamin's podcast. Today, we're going to talk about what if you came across $50,000. What would you do?
Starting point is 01:09:43 Put it into a tax-advantaged retirement account. The mortgage, that's what we do. Make a down payment on a home. Something nice. buying a vehicle. A separate bucket for this edition that we're adding. $50,000, I'll buy a new podcast. You'll buy new friends.
Starting point is 01:09:58 And we're done. Thanks for playing, everybody. We're out of here. Stacky Benjamin's, follow and listen on your favorite platform.

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