Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Dane Cook Returns

Episode Date: May 19, 2020

Dane Cook (Good Luck Chuck, Employee of the Month) returns to the show virtually this week to open up on the impact of these current times on his deep seeded abandonment issues and anxieties. Dane also expands on our previous conversation by talking more about the ways he counteracts his own shyness and how he approaches interactions differently with certain types of people. We also get into the idea of not pigeonholing yourself into a character type on stage, his brick-by-brick confidence building, and the reason he hates finishing a project. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. I just want to make sure my soundboard is recording and the cameras are rolling. Yeah, I know. I've talked about it. I do all of it now since Ryan's not here. I mean, I don't do the major, major, major editing. He does all that. But, uh, how's everybody feeling?

You know, some weeks I feel like I'm like, I got this, man. I got this. I could handle this. And then other weeks, I'm like, oh, fuck. I'm fucking sinking, man. Talk to myself a little more. But the more I'm creative and the more I do things

and talk to people and take walks and play with my dogs, I just feel happier. Stay away from the caffeine late in the afternoon. That's going to kill me. In the outro, we'll talk about my patrons. I am on the patron. Patreon.

I think I have the best Patreon in the world inside of you podcast, Patreon. It's such an amazing community and put it this way. There's a bunch of tears and I don't, I started to do something that's not even on there, which is these live YouTube's for just my patrons and we just jam. You know, they send, play this song and I'll just try to play different songs and we'll talk. And it's fun. I really, I'd say, oh, you're doing it for them.

No, they know I'm doing it for me and them. Another thing on the side, it's a completely different project, completely different because obviously inside of you podcast, this is a podcast and the, These guys are supporters of the podcast, and it's sort of this whole community. But John Heater and I have always wanted to do a project with horror movies, because we always watch them every week. So John Heater, Napoleon Dynamite, Blades of Glory. He and I have an exclusive Patreon, and it's called Where Have All the Good Horror Movies gone?

And it's pretty neat, and we just started that. So I hope you'll, you know, you can look at that. And also my favorite charities, Ronald McDonald's House of Los Angeles, Tom Welling, Kristen Kruk, and I did theomaze.com slash reunion. it raises money and you could win a virtual interview with me and Tom and Kristen and it's fantastic omaze.com slash reunion. What else? Food on foot.org, one of my favorites.

They've been raising a lot of money and let me tell you something. Thank you because my friend Danson, Rob, called me and said, dude, a lot of your people listen to your podcast have been donating. I'm like, holy shit, it's just, it's too much. It's honestly, I have the best fans in the world. I don't care what anybody else says. says. I mean it. These are loyal son of a guns right here. And I'm going to name them, some of them at the end. But all my patrons are badass. Great guests. He's back. But now you get to see him. A lot to talk about. I always love talking to this guy. You become buds. Just a great guy. A positive guy. A stand-up guy, someone who will tell you how it is. And we get into it. And it was just as easy the second time. Sometimes you think there's nothing to talk about. Well, there's way much. more to talk about. Talk about a guy going on tour and jump starting that career. He's a force

to be reckoned with. You'll learn a lot just from like the confidence and the way he thinks. I think that helps. It helped me sort of understand myself better or understand all of us a little better, you know. And I like that he likes the podcast. I got to tell you, I wish I could play a, he left me a memo. We didn't even really know each other that well, but he left me a memo what he thought about the podcast. It meant a lot to me. It really, uh, it really did. All right, guys, let's, uh, let's get in, Dane Cook. It's my point of view. You're listening to inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. You can hear me good now, though, can't you?

I can hear you so fucking good, man. God damn it, you sound good. Thanks, man. It's been a crazy day. I know this is not about me. This is about you. This is an interview with Dan Cote. Well, I had Botox today, a lot of Botox.

Not on my face, on my neck. So this doctor thought, because all my surgeries and I have a lot of tightness and stuff, he goes, let's try some Botox. So we did 100 units to try and give me some relief. And so I got a whole bunch of injections, and he says it will take a few days. So have you ever gotten any kind of Botoxin muscles or any tightness? The only place I've ever done Botox because I have a friend who's a dermatologist

is in my armpits. I heard that stop sweat. A lot of my friends did that. Yeah, I mean, it was like I was touring so much and I found that I'm only a person that, except for a little bit of a glisten, I was getting the sweat pits and my buddy was like, oh, I could inject a boat.

I thought he was kidding. He's like, six little injections and you won't sweat for like six months. And I'm like, oh, great. until you realize, well, the sweat's got to come out somewhere else. So it's like suddenly your fucking thighs are just seeping. Is that true? Well, I didn't sweat out of my pits for like six months.

It was amazing. But I did notice other parts of my body seemed very moist. Would you exchange armpit sweat for thigh sweat? I'll take the thigh sweat any day over the armpit sweat. And you know what it is? And this is going to sound really fucking weird, but I'm a weird dude about little things. the aesthetic of two uneven pit stains is what bothers me more than the sweating or anything else.

Richard Pryor, when he did live on Sunset Strip, that silk shirt goes through so many different, it looks like an atlas that's been updated year after year with like landmass. And it fucking drove me crazy as a kid. And I was like, I don't like things not being, little things not being aesthetic like sweat pit. If I could sweat at the exact same circumference at the same time to reach pit, I'd be okay with that.

What's that word? Symmetrical? Symmetrical is a word that could be used to describe that. Almost like the sweat. It's symmetrical. You got even amounts of sweat on the left pit, right pit, Brad Pitt. You're doing well there. Now, I have a question. I'm looking. I see me, but all I see is like this much of your head. Oh, shit. Yeah, hold on a second. Oh, look. Hey, here's Dean. I love that you've got the jerk poster there. And then I'm going to move this.

And I've got the fucking jerk. Oh, dude. Is he your favorite of all the time? Well, hang on. Hang on. I sent this to him. And I was like, look at this picture that I got of you. And he wrote back.

He's like, oh, yeah, I remember that. Are you serious? Oh, yeah. All right. Hold on. Let me sit down. This is so much work. You said something.

You were like, oh, my God, Steve Martin. You've got this picture of Steve Martin. You're looking at my jerk poster. And then you said, yeah, I text him. or you email that you have Steve Martin's information. I do. Steve Martin sent me a copy of his great book, which is, if you haven't read it,

is, well, it's flipped, but born standing up. And when that came out, I had the opportunity to have a lunch with him to talk all things comedy, but I had met him previously, very briefly. I was at the comic strip in New York. This is like 2004. and Lauren Michaels had come to watch me do a set.

And I get into the club and I don't see Lauren. I don't see anybody. It's just a pack crowd. I go on stage and when I came off the stage, my buddy Matt Frost, who was my booker then and still I work with now, he's like, do you know who's here? And I'm like, yeah, Lauren Michaels came down.

He told me he was coming. He goes, he brought Steve fucking Martin. So I got to meet Steve. I got, you know, great pictures, have a chat with them briefly about comedy and then he went on his way and some years later when he wrote the book I got a copy I just got a copy of it sent through my publicist and said can I meet him and the next day I had lunch with him and this was this at the height of your career well by height of my career you mean today

well yes because well we'll talk about that because there's a lot of great shit going on until all this shit happened but no I know you're joking I know it's a joke it's all a joke right Yes, it was, it was a white hot moment. And of course, Steve had written something really cool on the book, which was like retaining to the fact that, you know, that this book was something that I think he wrote, I think he wrote something like, you have it. I think he wrote something like, you have another one. He wrote, Dear Dane, read this and just substitute your name for mine, Steve Martin. Wow. And so, dude, lunch the next day with the guy that ultimately, you know, pre-Dice having his explosive moment, I was finally sitting with the Yoda for me to be able to talk shop.

Well, I'm hoping that this was, no, this wasn't. This wasn't post-Botoc shots for sweat from your friend. This is pre. So I'm guessing you were probably sweating. I'm not like a. You don't get nervous. You told me this in the last interview. I know.

I don't normally get nervous. but I do get trepidacious and I was definitely feeling that before I went in also knowing that he's a bit more of like introvert introvert so leading into it

knowing I go into introvert mode and if he's there then like what the fuck is this going to be it's going to be just like very zen but it was great it turned out to be a really eye-opening lunch how long an hour

like an hour and a half and it was comfortable you felt comfortable after a while like I like this guy I think this guy like me, were you concerned about him liking you? Because that's what I would be doing. I'd be sitting in a room going, I just want this person to like me.

I was, I mean, I was obviously hoping that based on the things that he was, that he perceived from my stand-up and then just some of the nice elements of the conversation that, yes, in my head, I was like, I wonder if I'm going to have like a friendship with Steve Martin. Will I be in communicato with him on a regular basis after this? but more than anything, just knowing how the industry is and how we all cross paths, even friendships, sometimes you don't see each other for years. Yeah. I was just going to take full advantage of the hour or whatever I was on the clock to Steve Martin.

This is it. Because that could be your only time. Think about it. That's how I think, you know, I've talked about this. But when you're on set with somebody you admire and it's the end of the shoot or whatever or you meet somebody random. To me, I'm like, this is probably it. I'm not going to meet this person again.

Why don't I just say something that I mean? Why don't I just like get a picture? A lot of people aren't that way. Most people, most actors I've talked to like, no, I don't need a picture with somebody. No, I don't need this. I want one. If I like the person I admire someone, I want it. Because I always think my career is over it now, today.

It's going to be over today. And I want to say, hey, I knew Steve Martin. Right, right. Well, it's like it's also that thing of someday I want to be able to show my kids. You know, we all, everybody's going in different directions. You may never see work with these people again. And so you want to be able to say, hey, look, I know that I'm probably a, you know, a nerd or lame to you, but I've worked with some iconic people. So, yeah, why not?

Go for the, go for the picture, I say. Do you notice, are you very hyper aware when you're walking in with someone of that caliber? And by the way, you're, you're like in your element. You're like, people know who you are at this time. It's like, it's not like Steve Martin is walking in with Michael Rosenbaum. It's Steve Martin's walking in with Dan Cook, right? the people that were already in the restaurant like some of the reactions

were straight out of like a badly scripted movie where one guy was like Dean Cook is with Steve Martin like I heard him say that he cooks with Steve Martin right there and it was like and I turned to that guy and I was like I can't fucking believe it either and he just like that guy laughed

it would have been better if you went Steve Martins with Dane Cook now you're paying But he was very subdued when I first sat down like he was he was he was so like laid back or you know chill to the point where I had to go into what I call like meet and greet mode which is you know when I'm meeting fans and I'm feeling kind of shy I have to become like a

somewhat of a talk show host right so immediately I found myself probably coming in a little hot by being like very very nice to see you mr. Steve Martin I can say I'm familiar with your work like something just to get it my feet in my my sneakers have form two fists you know like that's where I hold a lot of my tension right normally see it if I'm nervous with you now then like my feet have rolled up under and it's just kind of a huff as I'm hoping that he doesn't go I'm fucking out of here fuck this fuck you right just walks but he uh you know I did a movie with him and people like oh here we go get no I just remember I was like holy shit Steve Martin Steve Martin and all my scenes are with him small scenes but I had this

terrible wig and I had to whatever and I remember the first stay on set i was just standing there i didn't know anybody you know like i'm i'm a social guy and i want i want people to like me and stuff and i remember steve martin just comes up and goes so tell me about this smallville and i just started going oh my god i go hey yes and we talked and i'd sit at the table at lunch you know and he'd come up and go is anyone sitting here he would sit with me is i i looked like the nerdy alone kid which i always was and then i became something i guess eventually and you know people, I guess, sort of pretended to like me. No, I have friends that light me.

But, you know, so he was, he has that awesome energy. And I loved watching him work. The guy, he's one of those guys who he did a take and he'd run over the camera and go, oh, oh, I could be bigger there. I could be bigger there. I could do that. You know, I learned a lot from that. Yeah, he's like, what I got from him and what a privilege to have worked with him like

you did, what I got from him was like, wow, this guy is the ultimate pro because he's really all about the, I hate the word character, but the character that he becomes in performance, the elevated version of himself. But in real life, he's actually just more contemplative. And you know what I mean?

Yep. Running numbers just so laid back and so in kind of inside himself that it makes you appreciate all his performances even more. Yes. I wonder that about, you know, I'm not comparing, but I'm saying. But please do. No, well, I'd like to compare myself with Steve.

Martin right now. No, but I think that it's sort of, I think people, it's the other way around. Like, they see, I mean, obviously, some ways, but when I was Lex Luther, they would, people thought I was a serious billionaire, brilliant mastermind. And they'd meet me and they're like, oh, my God, like, women would be turned off more when they met me. They were like, oh, you're not that smart. You're not that. No, but I think that I was sort of like, you know, with Steve Martin, you see this fun loving guy. And then he was like, oh, he's this introvert. And I was sort of like, all over the place where people are like, you know, they couldn't believe that I had a, like, a personality and I was fine. You know what I mean? It was the opposite. Do you think that works

better? You know, because Steve, not Steve, Jim Carrey, Jim Carrey is like one of those introverts. Sometimes I think, is he really an introvert? Do you think some people just play that game, play that card? Well, yeah, I'm sure that some people do. I mean, everybody kind of like wants to put up, you know, what's their excuse to put up the castle door so that they can kind of be like, you know, you know, not have to feel like they're on. I do know people like that. I know people are the opposite. They're on all the time and they are always finding a way to

spark some kind of moment with people. For me, I'm glad I'm kind of, I'm like more middle of the road. You know, I'm comfortable chatting with people and so that being said, I mean, just being able to sit with this guy who was so fucking laser focused to perform in front of

20,000 people and yet you can see that just one on one, even that is probably too big of a crowd for him to some extent. I wonder if there's a way to learn that. Is there a way to, you've always been this confident guy. You go on stage, this is your home. Is there a way to learn that at a, or is it when you get to a certain age?

This is just you. You can't change your sort of, uh, yeah, I think it's like all that stuff, the confidence and everything that people see from, you know, from me as a performer. That was like fucking brick by brick building myself up to actually believing that I had the ability to connect and perform for people that like i don't i make no bones about it that was like harder than performing was walking to the stage to perform the performing was like oh i can play this is like you can be childlike you can you can be all the thing you're hiding behind a performance you can be sad you can be vulnerable you can be fucking angry you can get mad at heckler and you can say

shit that if you set it on the street you'd be fucking sued or you'd be you know ostracized from the office. I loved the protective bubble of the stage, but getting from the back of the room to the stage took a lot of years to make that walk and feel worthy of the guy that would finally be up there. So you felt there was a time, until you did put the hours in, it's like becoming a doctor, you know, you're going to med school, you're going, you're going to the grind, until you know your shit, until you've learned, until you're sweating and you're exhausted and you're, and eventually, hopefully a good doctor comes out of it all. Somebody who's confident, somebody knows what they're talking about. Is that sort of a good analogy?

no okay i didn't think it was but like the well the experience your experience me what the fuck are you talking about michael experience like you didn't just become confident one day or i guess you did but it took a lot of work yeah you're gonna put in all those all those hours you know the thing is it's like you know you know so many comedians you know so many performers like every it's all in the fucking minutia everybody brings such a different uh path to how they became who they are both in front of the camera and who they are when they're, you know, just no, nobody's around and how do they treat people and how do they treat themselves? The fact of the matter is to be able to be one of the people that can exude confidence, but realize, oh, wow, I came from

the quietest, you know, gave myself the roughest time in school and I could barely even walk to school because the thought of like just get walking through the playground of kids was like devastating and scary for me for my journey i'm glad that i can use my platform to exude that confidence as a person who's like you can get to where you want to be but it's going to be a long slog you got to fucking put in the the woman hours the man hours the people hours to earn whatever it is that you're chasing after it's not about getting the thing it's it really is i've been writing a book for the last year and i'm just finishing up in the last what's a call i'm still coming up

of the couple of titles that's a good title right there I'm still coming up with titles title this book title this book but the thing that I learned is like almost everything where I look back I'm like oh wow I did not enjoy the completion of this because once it becomes somebody else's it's like it it's the my favorite part of anything completed is remembering the first call when I called you up and said dude I got an idea for something I'm fucking thinking about doing this thing. Right. That is my favorite moment. Me too. It's like you have this moment. Even for me when I like I think I write a script, you know, and I go, this is good. This is good. I love this. Then it gets another, like you said, other people's hands and they start giving you notes and like,

you know, I don't think the studios are going to want. I think you should change this. And then you got to get a pitch. And then you got all these things. You're like, God, I just like the idea of doing it. It was just me. And it was fun. It was cathartic. And then it was then it gets kind of, I don't know, people fuck with it. I mean, look, it's that thing where once other people's energy gets involved, once other people's forget about their confident notes of how they want it, some people are coming at it with their own insecurities and then projecting it on to your process. So you've got to almost kind of not be bamboozled by the people telling you this is the right way or this can't be done. because at the end of it is any stand-up comedy show that I do, the stuff that connects with people are the things that were in my brain

that I thought was interesting. I shared it with you. The laugh is immediate. The applause is there. End of story. Nobody else impeding on that. And I try to do everything that way. Every project, every friendship, every the way I deal with my family,

I try to have direct connection, give you the truth about how I feel from the beginning without impeding on what it's. is that you're trying to create. Have you ever been like, look, I love you. Whatever, I'm here. I'm your friend or I'm your, you're my age. I just don't want you to give me your opinion on anything. Is there anyone that you just don't want to know their opinion? Because you seem like the kind of guy like, I'm going to do my things. And if they laugh, I will work it out to the way I want it. And I don't want anybody else's opinion. But that being said, do you also, is there someone? Are there a few people that you go, is this funny? And you actually listen to them.

First of all, I love that you're moving around like fucking Paula Poundstone in one of our early HBO specials. Dude, it's uncomfortable. I told you. I got Botox in my neck this morning. All right, go ahead. That's a big chair. I like your chair. It's big.

First thing I ever bought with any money, living in my shitty apartment over on Hussianna Boulevard, I had nothing, and I bought this chair. Really? It's the oldest thing that I've had in L.A. 97. And it's comfortable. I've lost everything in this chair. I've gained everything in this chair. I've come up with some of my greatest ideas in this chair.

I've come up with some of my worst ideas. I've slept in it. I've done everything. Sex and the chair? Oh, sex in the chair. Of course. Look at this thing. Holy shit.

That's a flexible chair. 97. I had $3,500 to my name, basically. And I went over to the valley and I found a place that sold like full on like teak desks. And everything in there looked presidential. and I walked through the whole store and I saw this chair and there was an empty store

and I went to the guy who owned it and I said, I want to buy this chair and he was like, well, do you want to buy the chair? And I said, because I'm trying to learn to be a writer and I want to sit someplace comfortable. That's it. I'm sorry, go ahead. That's funny.

I want to be a writer. He's like, well, I get you get another chair. We can't get you sit on a bench. guy's like, he's like, hanging this chair, right? And I'm like, well, I said, I go, I'm going to, you know, I'm a comedian and I spend a lot of my, you know, days like all day and I just want to be comfortable and I want to, and he goes, you have to buy it all. And meaning I had to buy the desk and the side desk and the whole thing was like $5,500. And I was like, I can't, I can't, I can't, I wouldn't, this is larger than my whole apartment. I just want the chair. He's like, I'm not going to sell just a chair. And I walked out to the apartment. And I walked out to the apartment. parking lot and all of a sudden he goes hey guy and i turned around and he goes what is your name and i go my name is dane cook and he goes are you anybody i should know and i'm like no not not at this point and he goes uh i will sell you the chair i'll sell you the chair you buy the chair you come back to me when you become somebody and give me the picture of your fucking face i put it in my

office and he sold me the chair for $1,500 and uh put it in my fucking i have great pictures of my shitty old apartment of me sitting in this big chair on my IBM think pad the first brick fucking portable computer uh on final draft one learning how to write scripts from this fucking chair did you ever the chair this the chair of sitting in when i learned that my brother fucking was going to jail this is the chair that i was sitting in when i got my HBO special and Marty Cullner was going to direct it I mean this is it you're never giving that chair up no never it's it's beat up it's worn out. Uh, it looks like the emperor's fucking throne, but it's so comfortable and it's kind of

my good luck chair. Did you go back to the guy? I did. Like seven years later, but the place was defunct. It was no longer there. That sucks. I wish you would have been there. I could have seen his face. Hey, remember me? No. I bought that chair. Remember, but you wouldn't sell it at first because you wanted the table to go with it? No. But I bought it and then I walked out and then you said, Are you someone I should know? And I said, no. But when you said, wait a minute, are you famous now? Hey, guy.

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but like what's different? What has evolved in the last, how many years since, I mean, in the last, let's say, 10 years. I didn't know you then. Right. But you just feel like there's definitely, you sent me a message that was just

incredibly kind and random in a good way. And it was this voicemail and it was just kind of a personal thing. But you were like, you just said something really nice about me interviewing people. And you just have this fluid, fluidity about you and blah, blah. And I just remember going, how freaking cool is that? Because not many people have, you know. You know, why?

Because, you know, being mindful and allowing feelings about whatever, art, relationships, anything. When something pings you, I feel like it's the responsibility of a healthy, well-rounded person to give away our power, so to speak, to the people around us. And I think after going through the whole multitude of everything that I experienced, good and bad, the thing that changed the most in the last 10 years was like, I don't, I don't want to ever fucking hold a feeling in. If I have an issue, I need to vent it. If I feel love, I want to say it. If I'm proud of somebody, I want to tell them. And not to sound like a little woes me about it, but I just wish more people did that for me. I do what I rarely got, even in that moment of, a breakthrough moment. And I can understand, you know, yeah, some people probably thought that I was untouchable

or I was not accessible. And there's a lot of reasoning and I accept all of it, but it's still hurt to feel like, wow, is nobody looking and saying, dude, we know the sacrifice you put in. We're doing it too. Fucking good on you, man. Yeah.

So I do it for other people. I do it and even though I will get it few and far between when I do receive that back, I know that is a good person, a mindful person. Yeah, you know, I think that's true. And I think that especially in this business in Hollywood, it's like, who really does that? And usually it's artificial, right? Your agents, people will say, you're the best.

You're going to be the next welfare. I'm like, stop them. I'm not going to be the next willfairal. You know, but certain people, it's not like you need it, but you kind of need it, but it'd be nice if someone like your peers who you respect just came up to you and go, hey, man, I want just something. it's but it has obviously has to feel real has to be genuine and that's the kind of thing that like when you did with me was it or ran i hadn't talked to you in a couple of weeks whatever

it was just one of these random things it was just a thought that occurred to you you translated it hit you you sent it to me and that i thought that was cool and i think you're right more people should do that you know man it's it's it's not even just this town it has nothing to do with just the business it's just human behavior you know fears people uh uh you know putting projecting out there and how people feel about themselves is usually how they translate and communicate with other people and I can look at the people in my life now the people that I've been communicating with during this you know weird scary time are like the people that like myself are very settled into the things that they've done that are both

successful and should be celebrated and they also know their you know missteps and own it and can talk about failure in a way that's still funny and poignant and informative. So I just own it all, dude. There's nothing that we could talk about that I'm concerned to delve into and say, yeah, that was me then versus how I feel about things going forward now. Yeah, because, I mean, you're pretty serious with this girl. You don't really talk about the girl or you don't mind. I do.

Yeah, no, I've been going on three years in my, in my relationship. I mean, seem really happy. Best, the best, the best. Do you ask her if shit's funny? I don't need to. I know. She'll tell me. Without you asking.

Yeah. No, I mean, you know how it is. If you're with somebody that digs your perspective, they're going to be able to, like, not only talk it up when you're on to something. And she knows, you know, the comedy brain of, she'll come to me. She'll be like, that's, that's a bit. That's, now she speaks comedy. That's a bit.

That's a bit. And then sometimes she'll look at me and be like, yeah, that, that's only for us, babe. That's definitely not for public. consumption. I shouldn't say that. You'll lose your career. Does she go to your shows? Oh, yeah. I took her on tour most of the year last year because she's a musician and she also does Pilates stuff. She's like a private Pilates instructor. So it's great. She can kind of hang out and go places with me and we're sharing each other's creative journey, which is awesome. Does she give you Pilate classes, lessons during when you're on the road? Yeah, we've

done some like hotel workouts you know we we do the Pilate stuff and yoga together we actually do yoga together we go uh uh do well we were up until this do yoga once a week and um yeah no we just uh you know the the best relationship should be boring to anybody else listening to it because it's just it's there's no frills no drama it's just a lot of love man and that's where i want to be well i like that i like that and you know it's i mean has this affected you anybody i read some of your, you know, like your Instagram. I can't wait to look back on this moment in our history and say we made it through together apart. Thankful for the ability to make others laugh, to help others succeed, to set an example and to exceed my own expectations. Yep. What do you think you're

doing now like when you're, I don't want to say locked in, but like what are you doing during the day? Is it easy for you because someone who's creative who likes to write, who likes to do, you know, he does stand up, he does it. Is it just something like you're okay? Where I'm not okay is I you know as a person who's come up and learn you know having like fear of abandonment issues and having to have gone through deep therapy to to be okay being alone I'm glad I went through all those stages to prepare for something like this um because it's not easy it doesn't matter uh you know what you did 10 years ago five years ago like it's it's all you know it's all how you feel about the position that you're in right now. And fortunately for me, as a person that

can suffer from anxiety, similar to when I got this chair and I felt very lonely when I first came to L.A. and didn't know anybody and didn't have any connections or really anything to put myself into, I fell in love with writing. And this year, having written the book, and then we finally get closed in here, I felt comfortable being. on my own you know my girl's here but she's also taking care of her mom close by so it's you know a lot of time where i'm here you know working working on myself but through the book that's provided me the opportunity to um to feel okay with this not normal situation when do you feel most anxious usually in the morning it kind of hits me i'm one of those people i wake up with it before right

before you even wake up arms are numb yeah my arms are a little numb I just get right it's if you feel the heaviness and um if I don't know about you but if I don't like get up pretty quick and get moving it's not going to be I'm going to be having conversations in my head about you know does this person care about me should I ask should it's like I get overwhelmed so that's where it lands on me in the morning well that that's exactly you know when I went to the therapist uh in Connecticut years ago this one therapist I remember she goes um so how were the mornings ago I wake up with anxiety and I've told the story but I think it's worth telling it because, you know, we're talking about yours and waking up with anxiety.

I go, I have anxiety. She goes, so you get anxious? I go, no, no, I wake up. I have anxiety. She goes, okay, well, what do you do about it? I go, oh, I lie there. And what do you do? I just lie there.

When? Does it stop? No. Okay, here's what I want you to do. I want you to get the fuck up immediately, unless you're tired and you just woke up for a second and you're going back to sleep, go back to sleep, if not get the fuck up and start your day and start doing things, go outside, and, you know, it sounds so stupid. Like, how is that going to work? It works. Just getting up, taking a piss, taking a walk, little things like that. But you don't

take any pills, right? Never taken any medications. Never. Well, I mean, no. Nothing prescribed for anything to do with anxieties or depressions or anything like that. Just run of the mill if I have to take a medicine. I'm not a non-medication person, but I fortunately have not had to take anything for the anxiety and you sleep well when you go to bed you are able to fall asleep even if you're playing the garden the next day you're doing stand-up you could still sleep knowing the garden will be there when i wake up i've always been okay with you know sleeping especially knowing i've got big big there's a weird comfort in knowing oh i've got these 10 theaters or arenas or shows any gigs lined up right now it's harder because i'm like i miss being on stage tremendous

I miss the community. I miss the camaraderie, even though we're all, you know, comics are texting each other and all that. I miss the visceral reaction and it's been hard, but I am, I'm grateful that I have the ability to write a book, the ability to get on with a friend, have some, you know, laughs, talk, you know, scrap it a little bit and talk about the good and the bad. Hopefully somebody gets something from this that's humorous and heartfelt. And then we go on our day and know like we're just doing the best we can with what we have right here yeah and if i'm being creative then i can at the end of it it's funny when i started the book i was talking to my i have a guy that like i'll send once in a while i'll be like okay you read this does this matter

should be this be in there am i going to get sued for saying this or that and this whole thing is i kept saying like well this is my 30 years in stand-up i'm not really like sure how it ends and he's like well at least you have your ending now he's like the pandemic is going to be the final chapter of this the first half of the career, hopefully longer. You know, I read this that, you know, the whole Tonight Show thing, you were watching the Tonight Show thing. You were watching the

tonight show with your mom and Carlin came out with the cut out of himself, the cardboard cut out, right? And then he, it was a cut out of himself. And then he just dropped it. Like, that's the old me. This is me. Now. Fuck off in a way. I mean, how did that

So obviously that was important to you, right? Very. Talk to me about that. Very important to me because Although I came up watching certain people in some form of a character, it always, the thing that impacted me and at the same time frightened me was the idea of kind of getting stuck in a character on stage. You know, I love dice, and I'm friends with dice to this day, but me at that time was watching him going, oh, what if he wants to do something that's beyond the, the, put on the you know the pomp of this whole thing and that used to make me very nervous what's funny is i was already trying to implement that into my stand-up you know pretty early that carlin moment and now i watch my early shit and i'm like i'm more like a black tank top and the gel

and the in the thing that i thought wasn't a look is like oh my god that's like a character now when i look at that so it really is more than anything but for me the carlin uh evolution when you watch, you know, the 15 specials was him allowing his behavior to grow and change. The look that he has will always be indicative of the time. But for me, when you see my next stand-up special, it's my best stuff. I know it's my best stuff, building on everything else that I've implemented and crafted to get to a certain pedigree to be able to tell the kind of stories and go even further inward. To be able to share that is because, of carlin because of the moment of letting go of preconceived notions well i think that's awesome that's

really hard to do that's hard to do you know and especially you know when you look at yourself then you know you know like somebody was sending a picture of you know i was such a dork in high school and i was like oh they called me spock i had the spock cut my senior year whatever but i was like whatever i just i look back on just different things and instead of just embracing i'm going this is who you were this is the kids you wore it's okay you don't want to be embarrassed by this you do some kind of acting role 10 years ago and gosh i wasn't that good i thought that was good that was right we're so quick to judge everything we've done in the past we're here because of the past right and isn't it funny like you built you've built an iconic character a lot of people know you from an iconic character

you put your stamp on it you made it original unique uh you made it uh textured it's It's a character that has existed for so many years in different ways, shapes, and forms. And yet, you were remarkable in that role. Why would we not want to go, fuck yeah, I did that. That is me. Even today, that piece of me with only those tools, was able to carve out this moment of performance that I'm very proud of. Isn't it funny how we can look on those moments now and be like, oh, you know, I wasn't all there. but you had what it took yeah you know what and i that's funny said that i am good at now at like

if i i don't it's not like i watch myself but sometimes i'll watch things and i'll go fuck yeah yeah dude you're in the moment you committed you did it fuck yeah you're yeah you're yeah you know if somebody says oh you know somebody and i'm pretty freaking humble but if somebody says hey you were the best like suitor kind of in the in the back of my head i want to go yeah i i agree with you i don't i don't say that but i'm like i think you know jean hatman's my but i you know you have to take it sometimes and go, yes, take that in, take what they're saying, appreciate what they're saying, and believe it, believe it. It's hard to believe that sometimes, and it's taken me a long time to believe that I'm worthy,

the believe, and I think a lot of people go through that, you know? But I've had to learn this through time, and I think this goes for performance as well, and having had the opportunity to play roles that are outside of comedy and roles that are based in comedy, the thing that I look at is anything that people quote of mine to this day, Now I'm going on stuff that's quotable like fucking 20 years later. The stuff that people quote, regardless of the jeans you're wearing or the hair or the fucking, the show is over now. There's a different version of the show. All that aside, the stuff that remains is when you put your real truth into any performance, it stays.

It has staying power. It's timeless. And I feel that a role that you played, I can look at the pieces of my comedy that I I know are still. Commitment. The commitment, but if you create, okay, it's like pop music. If you put out a pop song 15 years ago and it's just fluff, but real good fluff, like fucking sugary, like dopamine, it's fluff, but it dissipates. And three or four summers later, you're not still going to be listening to that particular song. But the songs that now 20 years later, you go hit play and fucking turn that shit up is because I believe,

something real that that artist put in that moment in that studio is what you're really connecting to more than the manufactured stuff that also gets put out there that ends up like, I don't want to watch that movie again, you know? It's subliminal. I think it is. It is. It's one of those things where people make fun of me

because I love the 70s, 80s. It called 7080s cheese. And I'm like, man, you listen to Christopher Cross is sailing. All caught up in the reverie. every word is a symphony and you put that on and you are on the ocean you are like you're looking up

at the canvas of your sale and you are I'm telling you it's how we laugh but those songs they still have this they resonate for me I'm like there's something touching maybe it's something that I connect to

I'm very good at like I'll remember a song and I know the date of the song I know it's probably came out either in I'm going to say 81 or 82 that's it I won't miss it by that you're connecting with something organic yes that person truly felt to put into that performance and I'll even go on the other side of it there's certain painful moments in my life that are so diabolically painful and yet I find myself like uh bringing them up in kind of weirdly celebrating where

I'm at now having gone through that pain. But the reason I'm remembering them is because those painful moments that somebody did something to you that was so hurtful, those are just like that fucking Christopher Cross song. It's so real that you can't help but weirdly enjoy it because you got some truth. Even in pain, you went, that was real. That was a real thing that that person did to me or said to me or put on me. It's all the same. It's all entertainment, destruction. If it comes from a real place we still want to study it and talk about it i i agree man i think it's uh it's pretty cool you could do that because you've had some fucked up moments too you've had like we talked about the last thing you want to listen to the other uh interview with dane from a while back it was uh it was amazing and i got a lot

of great feedback i mean it wasn't just i remember you said immediately you do a lot of people a lot of people love well love your podcast and then loved that i was they loved how open and vulnerable you are and and people who had these sort of ideas of like who dan Hank Cook was or like, oh, even, you know, peers or whatever. And whoever it was, they were just like, dude, I love Dane Cook. It just, if you want to, like, we obviously didn't rehash a lot of the stuff we talked about them, but it was, it was moving. It was amazing.

And I couldn't believe how open you were because we didn't know each other that well. We kind of saw each other in passing and whatever. But you are. I think that's why you're even happier than you were. I think that's why you're able to, you're able to embrace things good or bad that happen and sort of say this is what happened and yes you talk about it because it probably makes you feel better right yeah and it also informs current creativity that's the best part of anything that you look up on the whiteboard that you've made it through that you can kind of like what is that that usual

suspects where you're like putting the threads and seeing how everything makes up the path of where you got good and bad the assailants and the and the misdirection for me everything goes into how does all that stuff inform how I how I live and how I create how I present to my fans because that's all I'm good at I'm good I'm good at my relationships I'm good at my performance and there's a lot of things that obviously I'm I would succeed terribly in a lot of things I would fail horribly in but I'm lucky that I have a lane where I can use all that stuff and express it in a way that hopefully it's always entertaining and moving. Yeah, you know, name drop at the late Carrie Fisher told me once.

She goes, you know, write what you know. And I remember I read postcards from the edge. And then I said, wow, because she wrote obviously postcards. And then I started writing. And I just started writing these little vignettes of my life. Oh, this is the time when Todd Stevens stood up for me and beat the hell out of this kid who was picking on me. And oh, this is a moment of this. And these dark moments that I wrote about, I was like, I don't know.

but I was like you know Carrie's pretty effed up she could handle this and I gave her like 30 pages of and I remember she looked at me and she goes did this all happen? I go yeah

she goes a lot of this is obviously painful and I go yeah sure she goes you know how you get rid of that you just you make money off it she in a way she was like you know

right about this it's real and this is how you get rid of it this is you succeed from it her way it wasn't saying but like if you have this this moment and it's real sometimes you're like I'm not gonna exploit that but some moments are like they're brilliant and instead of suffering going on my kind of try to laugh about it and try to write about it and maybe someone will relate out there or somebody thinks that there's no way that happened but that's funny like when I fucked my mom's fur coat I won't get into that inside of you is brought to you by rocket money if you want to

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All right, listen, this has been awesome. By the way, the tour had to stop momentarily, right? Yeah, I was filming my special in July back in Boston. see that yeah the next special but like anything you know we're all on pause so you can't be upset at it even though you are um but it'll pick up as soon as we're allowed to so how many shows had you done before this can't you stopped in march right i did all 19 and the second half of 18 was all like on the road stuff to prepare for the special so fortunately i got my couple of touring years there to be able to then take this time now to you know write a book and

and focus on, I'm shooting a series too, a TV series that I'm also writing and producing and going to star in. So finish that up, finish the book. And then as soon as they say I can get back into Boston and film this special, then me and my crew are going to be back there. Are you ready to film it tomorrow or would you need a week to kind of get the juices going? Do a couple of clubs appearances, get it going and then go. You know, dude, it's like I watched your interview with Swartson. And it was like, in that interview, I was recalling Anyway, I don't want to go down the rabbit hole there

But the whole idea of Stepping away from the stage for even a short amount of time When you're focused on filming It every day that goes by feels like a month That you've been away. So a month being off stage at this point Feels like I'm just starting over. I know it'll be all right once I get into a groove

but yeah, I definitely am going to need a little bit of time to reignite certain ideas and just get passionate about certain pieces of material again. But if nothing else, it's like I've just been working on a COVID chunk so I can at least talk about how I've been feeling and what I'm seeing during this time. All right, this is, we're going to wrap this up with some questions. This is shit talking with Rosenbaum. This is some patrons of mine who are supporting the podcast. And these are easy.

Nico P. Thick crust or thin. thick i'm a thin guy i like the pan kind of crust but i'm not like a chicago pizza kind of guy i don't like it to be like a fucking lasagna you know what i mean yeah i like extra sauce though i'll tell you that much extra potato always go extra tomato sauce bob k favorite decade and why gotta be 80s so much great music man oh man what you come on he didn't ask this but i want to know who's your go-to like two or three bands i always bring up some guns and roses anything from appetite for destruction

let's see a lot of pop a lot of 80s pop but like one hit wonder shit you know what I mean I just died in your arms tonight that one's good yeah of course

or like you know you got to go Toto I think we are you know we talked about like Africa oh yeah well they didn't have they weren't one hit wonders though Toto had some good shit they had a few I love Chicago

so good little Duran Duran anything 80s I listen to 80s on 8 pretty much non-stop in my house. You know, if I wasn't an actor or whatever, maybe I'll still do it. I'd love to be a DJ. This is Rosenbaum's 80s on Sunday night 80s. We got a request from Dane Cook off the line.

This one's from the Appetite for Destruction album. It's, ah, you know, I'd love to do that. Jennifer N. What? Here's a Kaja Gugu, too shy, shy. Jennifer N, what is your favorite holiday? favorite holiday i didn't even look at that question jennifer yeah i don't know all i know is that like there's holidays that i've never

acknowledged and that i don't like i don't like easter i don't it's okay yeah yeah but holidays on it i guess you get to go Halloween Thanksgiving because of the big dinner oh yeah i like oh yeah i like jill e such a pioneer celebrities making good use of social media to connect with fans looking back are you glad you did and do you think that you had a lasting impact on using social media to build a fan base. Oh, yeah, definitely. Glad I did. I felt like I was there during the initial enthusiasm of what it was to be able to do this

and have a direct connection with your fan base. So, yeah, nothing but pride in that whole era that I put into connecting with people virtually. Emily asks, which is easier for you, stand-up or acting in a movie? Easier. I mean everything it's like with acting especially comedy it's such a collaboration and if you're not volleying it like this it's not funny it doesn't matter how funny I am

if you and I aren't in it together it's going to suck and then if your editor also is a person who doesn't really jive with comedy it doesn't matter what you did on the set like later you're going to be like what the fuck did they do what is that music so you have control when you're doing standup is what you're saying you have control it's you Stand-up is like at least that direct, like I said, vessel to, you know, the initial idea getting the laugh.

So stand-up is easier even though it's a lot of work. Sean W. What was your experience like in Hawaii 50? Would you like to take on a more serious type of role like that one? I did Hawaii 50. I did it because they initially offered me the role of Dano. And I said no. I turned it down because I did not want the island fever of living in Hawaii.

So one of the few things that I openly say, I got a direct offer. I said no. And then they called me and said, well, you know, we're fans. Will you do something? I was like, yeah, make me like kind of a maybe bad guy. I'll be Dano's brother. So we did that. Andrew, see, scariest moment of any stand-ups that you've ever done.

Was there a moment where you're like, something happens, something's, you're buying? I almost fainted on Letterman, my second appearance. I had a hundred and two or three degree temperature I was dealing with like the worst flu I went on TV that night I remember my mom calling me later when I was like I almost fainted and she's like oh I know you were gray

she's like you look fucking gray you look like I was watching a zenith television you were so gray and if you look at the set on the second appearance I come out and the adrenaline went up as I was already feeling terrible and you see me walk up to the mic stand

and just grab it and then just fucking like hold it because the whole world starts closing it on me. And then thankfully I took one breath and I'm like all right. I'm trying to like be like too cool. Hey, hey, hi guys. Hello. Hi.

And then that thing opened up and I was okay. Do you think that's ever happened even with big com comedians or any comedians where they go out and they pass out, they faint? I mean, I've heard of a couple people like dying on stage even over the years over stress musicians dying and i've heard of a couple of comedians that made somebody laugh so hard that somebody died during the show and they thought they were fooling around but i can't think of a comedian that's ever like uh yeah i can't think of that

off the top but i do know there's been some weird shit that's happening crowds during shows sophie m what last one what three words do you want as your epitaph on your grave to remember you oh god um to remember me three words on my grave let me do any amount of words you want no first of all i'm going to get cremated so i don't like this idea of a fucking great all right how about on a whiteboard somebody just writes some shit somebody writes on a whiteboard i'll be back dain cook lived dain cook lived dain cook was dancook was his way dane his way next time i next time and i hope there is a next time i

I'd love to be on your show. Always, dude, always. I feel like if we can have a very transparent moment, I feel like we're building a friendship through your program. I like this is a little bit here and there, but I truly feel like this is a unique kind of bond that we have growing through this format, yes? 100%.

I'm telling you, after that first meeting with you, it doesn't happen often, but I'm like, I want to hang with that guy. I like him. He's genuine. Not only that. Not in a, what's the word, opportunistic way. I say that word because I think I would be better because of you. You know, I feel like you're a good person. I feel like I'd learn from you. I feel like we were, I think there's an honesty. I think that's where we're trying to be honest and real as much as we can. I feel the same about you. And I say that not only through these conversations, but having now become a fan of, I'll watch your show. And this, I hope you take this as a great compliment. I'll watch your show because sometimes I trust in you that I might like that other person that I'm not really sure if I'm interested in their journey. So I find that like by hooking up with your podcast, I'm watching and enjoying people that I probably like myself and you mentioned with other people. I'm going, oh wow, I didn't realize that about that person.

I like that. That's the goal. I appreciate that with your program. Well, dude, God, I mean, you said it. I mean, look, doing a podcast is harder. Everybody in their mother has a podcast. And I just like, you know, I hope people like, I just want them to learn something. I want somebody to open up.

I want, if they want to, if they want to, I'm open, I'm dysfunctional. I have all these things. So when you open up and people, that's, that's what it's about. And hopefully that, you know, that's what I say. Just because, you know, when we get a hundred and some thousand people watch a certain interview because, you know, they like that actor. It doesn't mean, you know, guys, maybe stick around because you might like or get something from Dane. that you don't really know that well or somebody else

or my dumb ass might throw something witty at you. Absolutely. Yeah, man. No, this is, but like I said, I feel like our rapport has grown.

Yeah, absolutely. We're seeing it. People are seeing it like here, which is kind of fucking cool. I mean, not to say, I don't want to have a lunch with you when this is all over and hang.

We should wait a year and just do it through this. Just have lunch through Zoom? Just, just, we're, it's a unique thing. You're seeing a friendship building.

through this medium as opposed to like us saying oh we were hanging the other night and something happened we wanted to talk about it we're we're really building up a rapport here which i think it's i think it's kind of interesting there you know because i don't know what you're going to ask me you don't know what i'm going to come at you with we're not that familiar overall and yet we're becoming more and people are getting to see it and chime in on it and they should i think that's cool i hope one day i'll be sitting in that chair and i'll get a picture of me sitting in your chair your beloved chair of since 1997. It's a 23-year-old chair

that she bought for $1,500 from a man named We Don't Know. Yep. But, dude, I love this. I loved every bit of it. I'm going to be texting with you and talking to you. And thanks for allowing me to be inside of you once again, my friend.

Michael, we'll see you on the next one, man. Thank you. Stay safe, dude. Dane Cook. I hope you guys enjoyed that one. Thank you so much. Again, just a reminder, thank you for supporting me in the podcast.

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