Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Dave Bautista Returns

Episode Date: May 5, 2020

Dave Bautista (Guardians of the Galaxy, Avengers: Infinity War) returns to the show this week to open up more about the obstacles he overcame in his life and career through the WWE and now in Hollywood. Dave talks about his understanding that he should feel fortunate in his current position during unprecedented times, but still having a deep seated anxiety from all the uncertainty. We also get into the idea of working against one’s clock of opportunity, the fear of missing your shot, and Dave’s experience rescuing doggos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Sorry, that sounds strained. Another week, glad you're here, glad you're back. What an awesome episode last week, really went all over the place. And the numbers were great, and the listeners and the views on YouTube. And I want to say thank you to everybody who gave it a shot. And listen, you know, when we get these certain guests that have such a huge following, well, a lot of these people aren't following me.

They're not listening to inside of you. But when they're on here, people listen to it. And if they like it and you say, hey, listen to maybe another one. Give us another shot. So you, you know, that's kind of what you do. But it was great. Grant Guston was great. And, you know, I love all the interviews.

And I did a little interview with my grandma. She's on FaceTime. And I did it like a week ago. And I recorded it. But I didn't put it on that other episode. So I want to share that with you now. Okay, Blanco, how are you? How are you holding up?

Just like everyone else, crappy. Yeah, you're crappy. Are you doing anything to amuse yourself? What can I do? Well, you could talk to your grandson constantly. I'm telling you how many times I called you three times last night. All right, hang on. Well, don't make me sound like a dick.

I've been, we talk almost every day. Do we not? Yes, we do. We do. But I wanted to ask you if you'd go on FaceTime today with the family. Yeah, of course they will. I wish I can come there and hug you. Oh, and I love that.

We could play some, what is it called, RummyCube? Rummy Cube, yeah. Yeah, we could do that. We could play Canasta. You could teach me how to play Canasta. That's a hard game to learn, though, isn't it? Yeah. You have to play more than two people, though.

How old do you think the oldest item in your freezer is? Oh, God, I have no idea. Are we talking like 20th century? no not that bad you're cooking for yourself you're doing i mean 18th century well i love you i love uh i love singing with you we have to do our concerts remember we had a good concert i played an hour for you we played we sang together yeah i like that very much and i love you so you give you cheer me up all the time well you make me very happy you do you really put a smile on my face every day just you know hearing your voice and your support you've always been a

amazingly supportive. I talk about you on the podcast all the time. You're very unconditional love. That's what it is, isn't it? For me, it is definitely unconditional. Yeah. I do anything for you that I could. All right. I love you dearly. Love you. All right. Give me a, give me, you and Grandpa's song, you and Herb, give me a little,

the first verse. I'm in all the old familiar places. That is hard of mine. Imbraces all day through. I'll see you in the morning, sun. And when the night is through, I'll be looking at the moon, but I'll be seeing you.

Oh, that was good. Brings a tear to my eye. I love you. Thank you. Okay, baby. Bye-bye. Bye. Grandma Blanco, Blanche, from Florida. I love this woman so much. You have no idea.

Oh, I love her. Just a few things. I hope you're dealing with all this stuff. And I'll tell you what, I decided to do, get ready for it, a mental health week. I've been wanting to do this and, well, we're doing it. I got two amazing, amazing ladies who, you know, work with me, let's just say. This wonderful woman, Sandy, Danielle, and Ellen Wassel, life coach. Sandy's a DBT, a behavioral therapist, and they both do amazing things, but I met them when I was at Privae Swiss, this wonderful place in Connecticut, and we'll get into that on Mental Health Week.

But I think it's really important, and I just kept thinking about it. I'm like, you know, how do I help people? It's free therapy, you know, for an hour. So you want to tune into that. And thank you for supporting the podcast. Make sure you subscribe. The links are right here. See, look at that.

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But Inside of You, at Inside of You pod on Twitter, at Inside of You podcast on Facebook and Instagram. Please subscribe on YouTube and Spotify or wherever you listen to it on both and listen and watch and share and all that stuff. Great episode today. A returning guest, but a man, a Marvel man, he was in Gardens of Galaxy. You know him as drag. Tons of movies, one of the biggest wrestlers in the world.

Heart of Gold is doing a lot of big movies. We talk about so much great stuff today. He's so insightful and so honest and like this lovable shy, big hunk of love, man. He's just a, did I just say big hunk of love? Sorry, Dave, you're probably going to watch this and kick my ass for that. But I love you. He also sent me this thing from my neck. He's just so thoughtful.

He's just the iron. neck and I've been working with that and it's helping me a lot so why don't we just get right into it and also uh Zach Levi inside of you live podcast as of now we're still a go that's July 2nd at the north door in Austin live podcast two shows get your tickets we'll see what happens but as of now that show is a go but you know things are changing so quickly here take a deep breath let's relax and And let's get inside Dave, Bautista. It's my point of view.

You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. This is shit. Let me try this again. Come on now. Yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah, I turned off the sound somehow.

yeah you aren't good with this shit are you you know with all this stuff happened it's hard not to talk about it because i'm sure people are like oh i think people are interested in like going hey what are what are the stars doing what are the uh you know what are people doing and they're interested in like going seeing how people get through it do you deal with like you get anxiety is this making you anxious you know it's weird and this is uh it's it's been a little rough for me to talk about because i you know i don't want people to have the reception that's uh like a fake anxiety. It's a fake concern because I'm really, like, fortunate right now with, I feel like I've, I've kind of, it's almost like I prep for this for years and not intentionally,

but I'm just really, I'm very fortunate right now. I'm not suffering personally from this, but I am still suffering from, like, horrible anxiety. And it's just, you know, some days I just wake up and I just I don't want to get out of bed I don't even want to wake up but just depressing as hell and I think like to myself like I'm feeling like this and I'm fortunate like how are people who are like suffering who are losing everything they have and their you know families are going hungry and they don't even have you know I can't put food on that table they don't have access to food or they just don't have they've run out of money yeah how are they doing with this so it's like it's it's a tough thing for me to talk about openly because I don't feel like I have the right

to, you know, to complain or be, but I am, yeah, it's killing me. It hurts. Like, personally, it hurts. I'm watching people. Like, I sent my mom out. I know this sounds like, like a petty thing, but it just, it broke my heart. I had to send my mom out toilet paper. My mom didn't have toilet paper.

She's been going to the store and waiting in the line in San Francisco to get toilet paper, and they won't tell her before she goes in. She has a wait in line to go in. They won't tell her if they have toilet paper. stop or not they will just have her wait in line and she goes in and she doesn't have it so for weeks or whatever she's been without toilet paper so i had to ship her out toilet and i just it breaks my heart that i have to send my mom toilet paper i know that seems like a kind of a petty thing no dude that's not petty at all it's like i got a 91 year old grandmother in

fort lauderdale and you know she lost my grandfather in november uh on thanksgiving and his birthday was just uh april 8th he would have been 94 and you know first of all i'm grateful that he lived that long and he was my best friend and you know they were together for 70 well shit how long i mean he's i think 75 76 years they were together so she doesn't know what it's like to not be with somebody and now she's alone so no one can go over there i think my uncle recently started going over that he just wasn't safe he was like i don't want to take chances so he kind of sits like 20 feet away doesn't like you know and she's all alone in this little you know she's got a nice little place it's fine but she just goes mikey i'm so bold

She's got that, you know, Jewish New York accent. I just want to play Rummy Cube with somebody. It's like this game we play. And she misses a can-assadigames. And so she's alone and she's like, I'm like, can you order you some food? Can I do something? She goes, I've got so much food in the freezer. I go, that food is from the fucking 70s.

Nobody wants that food. It's fine. If you freeze it, it's fine. It definitely puts things in perspective. When you're thinking about yourself, you wake up. Look, what you're going through is important. It's not, look, I care. I'm like, you know, people who are homeless.

Can you imagine things getting worse for homeless people? And it is. It's worse for everybody out there. So you definitely have to put things in a perspective, but it doesn't mean that, you know, you don't have anxiety. You don't, you know, it's okay for, I mean, look, I think we're all, we're all freaking out a little bit here. Yeah, it just, it just sucks, man.

I mean, it just sucks all the way around and just not, you know, I think the unknown, too, is scary, like not known. going when things will normalize, if they're going to normalize, how bad we're of shape we're going to be in after this, you know. And, you know, to be honest with you, it breaks my heart that this will, for a lot of people, this will make people even more distant. Like, there's, I've never been the most social guy, but there are certain social things that I really cherish.

Like, you know, and I said something, I put a little post on my Instagram last week, but, like, I love going to the movie theaters. It's like one of my favorite things in the world to do. And I don't want to ever give that up. And I don't want to, I hate to think that people are not going to want to do those things anymore. And then theaters are going to go out of business. I mean, that's like things like that. And even like baseball games, I love, you know, I look forward to being able to make a baseball game.

Nationals? Yeah, and that's my team, man. It's just, uh, it's a social thing that I enjoy doing, like, with my friends and family. And I hate to think that this will change, like, our way of life and people won't want to socialize with each other anymore. I think they will. I think they will, Dave. I hope so. I really hope so, man, because there's, And that's coming from a guy who's really socially uncomfortable. But I don't want people to be further apart.

I feel like our country is so ripped apart already. Yeah. I don't want it to get to get worse, man. And there's always those simple things that bring us together, no matter where we're at with politics or whatever, but there's simple things that bring us together as a community and there's things like sporting events. Movies, concerts.

You're absolutely right. So that's, you know, it's funny because the whole Zoom thing, it's tomorrow night. I do a, I'm doing a bingo night for my friends. So it's like 40 people, everybody Venmoes me 10 bucks. The pot's like 400 bucks. We give some the charity, you know, Ronald McDonald House or Food On Foot. That org, got to throw those names out there.

But, you know, and it's like sitting there watching your friends of the Brady Bunch. I got this fucking big bingo machine. I bought this big roller. It was like 400 bucks. People are like, how old are you? I'm like, I don't know. I'm, you know, and it's funny because, you know, I'll sit there and I'll roll the balls. That didn't sound right.

And I'll be like, B3. And then my friend Tom will go, B three. Like he's my backup, my side man, my sidekick. And people have a blast. And just like it takes you away for an hour. And, you know, we have some laughs.

But it's weird. It's like, I just want to like give my friend Tom a hug. I'd love to give you a hug. You know me. I love to come over and give old Batista a hug and uncomfortable hug. I'm a man of a few words and many hugs. Many hugs. Yeah, dude, you know,

I read something on your Instagram. It was really cool. It wasn't long ago. It was like maybe a week ago. It says, thinking of better days past and better days to come, the simple things like a ballgame, like you just said,

with friends, spam community. I can proudly say, I've never taken life for granted. Grateful for every minute, every experience, every opportunity. Life's too damn precious and I refuse to waste it

or take it for granted, wishing everyone good health and better days to come separately in this together. Which I thought was really cool. And man, it's pretty profound when you say, something like you've never taken life for granted yeah i think it's just you know it's i think it's

it's because of where i come from it's i think from seeing death at an early age like up close and personal and i think it's uh it's always me just trying to make the most out of my life you know kind of defy the odds like you know i should have been a statistic and i didn't realize that i was not going to be a statistic i didn't make the conscious effort to say that i'm not going to be a statistic. I was almost 30. I was almost 30 because I was in my box. I was, you know, on my block. I never, I didn't step foot out of my block. I was just a kid in D.C. I was working the streets of D.C. and it was about when I was 30 when I said, I just can't do this. I got to make something out of my life. And so, uh, yeah, I stand by that. I just, I love life, man.

And I just don't take it for granted. I don't take anything. I don't take the things that I've been fortunate to have or accomplish our opportunities. I just don't take them for granted. I just really, I'm appreciative guy. Yeah, anybody knows you will say that. You know, those people, those folks that have faced such adversity, when you see it with their death in the face, you know, and like, you know, three people died on your front lawn or something like that. You were a bouncer.

You've seen as dark as it can get in a lot of ways, right? So, you know, there had to be a moment where you're like, anything better than this is awesome. Anything. Every moment that came to you after those terrible moments were like, oh, wow, I didn't get in a fight today. Oh, I didn't see someone die today. but look I know a lot of things you know I look at all the shit you're doing too and that's got to be hard it's like you know you got all these projects and I see in pre-production and all the things you know and you don't like stopping you want to keep moving right you know I started everything later in life and I am I always feel like I'm under the time crunch you know I'm under the crunch as far as like you know getting older I'm not getting a younger and so I need I constantly need to keep working and make things happen because I I know and I because I'm a realist and I realize that some

someday, you know, the phone's not going to be ringing. You know, people are not going to be calling me to do, you know, jobs. And, yeah, so I just don't, you know, I don't take it for granted. And I want to take advantage of opportunities. Like, I love the word opportunity. Opportunity, like one of my favorite words. And if I'm given an opportunity, man, I'll just run it down. And I just, so that, yeah, certain things like this is, I mean, that's what I mean

when I say that I'm afraid of the unknown because I don't know that when this is all going to go. You know, I don't, I want to know when I'm going back to work. You know, I'm losing. opportunities that I had like my film my spy that should have been released was not you know obviously not able to be released in theaters and I was really proud of it because it's a fun film family film it's a first film I developed so but they sold it to Amazon so eventually it will be released but I just I wanted it to have a fighting chance in the theaters um because I was pretty proud of it I am proud of it but yeah I knew you were I knew you were upset with it and as you

should be it was just the worst timing ever was supposed to be like released on like like the 11th of March or something yeah so what are you going to do i mean that's the thing you kind of go okay this is the situation you know what it's funny is like sounds stupid man but i learned this and it does work i i thought it would never work but you know i remember i fired off some job years ago and i remember just things along the way it's like oh this didn't happen or oh this and i just go i start to think immediately what are you grateful for stop what are you grateful for don't let this what are you grateful for what you got going all right you got two you got two awesome dogs all right you got this you got a cool grandmother's 91 okay you got it and you just start and that somehow

psychologically the brain it works if you just keep telling yourself positive things do you do that or are you kind of like fuck fuck fuck you want to throw somebody out of that I get upset like everybody else I mean I you know I'm human and I you know when something doesn't happen the way I envision my head I you know I get upset but I am that guy which is you know it's back to earlier when I say that I don't like I never want to be I never want to have the for people to have the perception of me as bitching or moaning no it doesn't come off that trust me hey dude uh Maggie and Ollie would you say uh yeah they're kind of like a god send for this for this shit going on they are your dogs tell us about your dogs could you save these guys right yeah yeah

well what I did was I kept them together because they're so they're they're litter mates and so when they were first brought to the shelter, they immediately split them up and they were trying to adopt them out. And they'd never been a part in their life. So a local organization found out about it. And they knew that I had room and experience with pit bulls. So they asked me if I'd adopt both of them to keep them together.

And so that's what I did. I think eventually because they're just such great dogs, somebody probably would have adopted them. They just probably would have adopted them separately. Right. Because most people, it's hard for them to take one. but let alone two big, you know, dogs. Just, but they are.

They're a godsend. I swear to God, I'm relating them to, so this is how I'm, you know, I've been hearing from a lot of people that now they're home with their kids all day, and they're just going nuts. And that's how I am with the dogs. Like, they're literally, they're driving me nuts. Most of the time, it's all great, and I love them.

But they're so hyper, and they're so, I feel like the more I'm around, the needier they are. Yeah. So they just start getting very demanding over my attention. over space it's just I feel like the more I'm around the more need

they become and they're just now they're whining and they want to you know if I walk outside they think we're going for a ride

and they're just lined up at the car scratching at the car they're just right and they know how to make you feel guilty too they look at you like I just want

I just took you for a fucking walk like an hour ago we went for like an hour walk what do you want I don't know just like I'm sitting

on this couch and you're fucking zoom and a zoom and shit man and you're like all right let's go out let's play let's and it's

never enough and it's never enough food but you know your daily rituals so i have a separate building that's my office and gym and it's a it's a couple miles from me so that's our usually daily ritual we jump in the car and we go up there just get them out the house get me out they go in the gym they're running around while you're working out yeah they're running around they have access to the gym do they work out they they're they used to be fine they enjoyed the ride heads out the window but now they just sit in the backseat and whine until we get there It's just, like, they can't get there fast enough. I need to teleport them there.

I can just see, I can just see, hey, just knock it off. Calm down. I'm going to stop this car. I'm going to turn this car around. Well, that's probably a good thing, because you have three kids, right? And they're all grown up. Yeah, and so my 12-year-old is we've been, you know, face-up in daily.

And, you know, he's up in Northern Virginia. He's outside of D.C. And he's now, you know, he's a gamer. So now I'm just... Man, this is his excuse to sit on, you know, in his little gamer chair all day. Do you play with them? Do you play games? I don't play games.

I'm just not good. I don't have the patience. I don't have the focus. And I also, if I do find a game that I like, I become addicted very fast. And then, like, hours will fly by. I will not eat. I will sit on a game and just, yeah, just playing. You know, if kids have died playing.

Have you heard those things? Or people are on that thing so long. Like they have these marathons where they're on 24 hours a day. I've heard these weird stories where they just aren't nourished and they just play games and they're like drinking like red bulls and they have, they die. Yeah, I believe in it. It's an addiction. If you find that right game that just calls to you, it's so addictive.

Red Dead Red Dead Redemption, because it's just slow enough where I could sort of like it's, because I need slow. These fast games where it's like every, you're using 30 buttons, forget it. You remember when we just use Frogger, man, just cross the fucking, jump on the alligator. Four directions. That's it. Four directions. You don't even need a button. Donkey con left, up, right? Easy. Yeah. That's what I miss, man. It just got too complicated. Life got too complicated. Do you think if I did a national no phones day, people would do it since there's no way with there. Oh, God, no. No. And I'm admittedly, I am really bad at this. I get, so if I lose my phone or forget my phone somewhere, I get pure, like anxiety attacks. Like, I'm losing it.

well that's you realize that's not good i hate to admit it i hate to say it out loud but i feel instantly disconnected i feel like i miss or something i can't touch i actually i did lose my phone i was on my bike and i was rushing to we were done a screening of my spy and i was on the highway and i was flying on my bike and my phone just flying out and so i didn't have my phone and i was having so much anxiety about it so i went later back to the highway and i didn't turn my bike off i left it I left a battery on, and I went for an hour looking for my phone, and I found pieces of it, came back to my bike. My bike was dead. So now I'm up on the highway with no transportation and no phone.

Oh, my God. But, yeah, I'm so addicted to my phone. Well, that's what I was thinking. Here's the reality. I know we're all on our phones, and you got the Instagrams and the TikToks and the podcast and everything. And it's just like we're constantly on that. But what it does, as much as you think it connects us, and I'm, dude, I do it too. I'm not fucking preaching.

It disconnects us. Oh, for sure. So you go out to dinner, you're still kind of like, oh, I just want to say, oh, yeah, oh, yeah. It's, it is. It's like heroin, dude. It's fucking heroin. I wonder if people could just do it for a day. I mean, we were all doing it before 2000.

When did cell phones come out? I don't even remember. Everybody was, that's what I started wrestling. I didn't have a cell phone. I was still using pay phones or where. And how was your life? Yes. How was your, we were using Road Atlas's.

It was good. I just, you know, the phones, you know, these cell phones. are just, you know, they're convenient. I am not guilty of, like, I can sit through a dinner without looking at my phone. I love, if I'm going out to dinner with people, I want to sit and I want to talk with them, and I want to eat and enjoy it the evening. I stick my nose up at a table full of people on their phones. I also don't like my best friend, you know, Jonathan, his kids will not put down,

they'll sit through every meal all day long on their phones, and it drives me insane. And he knows it drives me insane. Why don't, you know, there's a rule that we do, you know, with my friends. when we're having breakfast or something everybody puts their phone in the middle and no one touches it and the first one who grabs their phone pays for the whole fucking table I love that man

that's what you got to do if nobody grabs their phone just split it up four ways or whatever yeah it's just the way it is hey look everybody look at that guys we had a conversation you didn't need your phone and here's the thing my grandma's like he didn't hear your phone ring I never ever have my ringer on or my text

I look at I figure I look at my phone enough that if I look at it 20 minutes and I get a text. I'll respond. I don't need to hear it ringing and doing this shit constantly and dinging. My friend Joe, I love him. Ding, it's a notification from whatever, like eight million things. Every second it's dinging. I'm like, how the fuck are you doing anything with your life? No, I don't get any of those either. No, my phone's always on silence. I don't get any social media notifications, not of that. But yeah, I am totally addicted to my phone. But I do. I will sit it down, sit it down. And, you know,

important times to sit and have a conversation so we have dinner you're gonna you won't use it no no i may check it if you know if you if you got up to go to the bathroom i'd look at my phone or if i got really boring if i was boring you'd be like you know rosy you're boring that's not gonna happen i don't know man hey dude um you'd be on your phone constantly i know i am too do you ever do you feel like your neck ever hurts from being on your phone well my neck hurts from wrestling you don't think it adds to it so my neck always hurts yeah do you like have like i was watching some highlights of your stuff and when they announce your name i don't think i mean in roles i've seen you explode with a you know a certain energy like you know as dracks and things like that but

when i watch you when they announced batista whatever the when you came out there do you think that was the biggest high you've ever had is that going in those arenas when they announced you was that the biggest high you ever had absolutely it's it's a drug man it's pure that's when i used to come out and do my interest, and I got this from Shane McMahon. You know, Shane McMahon is he's the son of Vince. He's a wrestler as well. But he used to always say, my coming out. It's like, it's like, heroin. It's like shooting heroin. I used to do that with my entrance. Yeah. But yeah, absolutely. It's, it's the high up performing, and it's all that energy from the live audience and people screaming and cheering. Yeah, it's pure adrenaline, pure adrenaline. I also was thinking,

man, you know, I was like, I don't know if it was in a dream or not. I don't know. if I was dreaming about you. But have you ever like, I'm sure it's happened. But you're in the ring with someone, right? And by the way, I didn't know that you had the longest rain as world heavyweight champion for 282 days at WW. Is that real? Is that true? Yeah, yeah, with that particular title in that time, yeah.

I didn't know that. That's awesome, dude. That's totally awesome. Yeah, I dropped it because I got injured really bad and I wasn't able to perform anymore. I had to get surgery on my arm so I had to leave to vacate the time for a while. Oh, talk about depression then, huh? Yeah, it was, it's weird.

It was depressing because I was under the same mindset. Every injury, I always, throughout my career until like maybe the last year of my career, I always thought I was one bad match away from being fired. I was always worried about my job, concerned about my job, which is why I was so driven. I worked so hard because I, you know, this was like my last shot.

This was my last chance of, being a success at something so making something out of my life so i was always just fear of losing my job you think that's how it is with your acting career now you feel that same way you're so driven you want to be so great is it is it maybe it's just part of you i think it's well i think right now it's uh it's and i'm obsessed with becoming a better actor like i i just obsessed with acting i just and it's hard for me because i can't i can't get better if i'm not working I'm an on the job, you know, learning actor. If I'm not working, I'm not learning.

And I'm like, I'm so hungry to learn this craft of acting. I'm obsessed with it. And so it's more that because it's never, for me, acting has never really been about being famous or a paycheck. It's really just been, I've just been obsessed with becoming a better actor. You know, it's still a struggle for me. That's funny you say about fame. You said fame is overwhelming.

Sometimes I just want to crawl under a rock and hide. Yeah. Do you really feel like that? Do you feel like even at premieres? Do you feel, is it that you feel like you don't belong? Is it feel that? What is it? Yeah. I hate it's all the above. I've always been really socially awkward. But it's, I don't know, man. It's just, it's a little, it's a bit overwhelming for me, which is, I mean, to be honest with you, it's why I live here in Tampa. It's very removed from everything. It's removed from a spotlight of any kind. And I live such a normal life. But even here, I have, you know, a pretty big property surrounded by a great big gate. Makes me even further removed, but, you know, I like it. I like the solitude, which is why I was saying earlier, it feels like I've always been prepped for this. Like, I was social distancing, like, way before it was necessary.

Yeah, right. You know, I was talking about that dream I had, or maybe it was a thought or whatever. But I was like, I wonder if he ever, like, maybe wrestlers in general. that you i know i kind of go all over the place but that's how my mind works but i was thinking you accidentally hurt someone it was actually an elbow you didn't mean to get that high because you're going so fast and things happen that you're like fuck dude i'm 300 pounds or whatever or i don't know how big you are but i hit him and i'm like during the match you're thinking oh fuck is he all right is he that had to hurt oh my god do you ever get down there and go dude i'm so sorry i'm fucking sorry

You whisper and is here, dude, my bad, here, fucking hit me in the balls, do something. What do you do, man? I mean, what do you do? That's, well, that's happened to you. I, you know, I was pretty lucky that way, and I was also, it was almost a hindrance early on my career because I was so afraid of hurting someone that I appeared to be non-aggressive, which in professional wrestling just doesn't help your career. You cared too much.

But I did. I just didn't, you know, I didn't want to hurt anybody. because, you know, that's kind of, that's part of our job is we have to protect the people we're working with because they also need to make a living. They need to go out and perform. So it's really a fine line, but there were a couple of times where there was a guy named Randy Orton. I wrestled at once. And I hit him really hard.

And he sold it and I knew I hit him really hard. And I was trying to get close to him to apologize to him. So I kept punching him. And then I hit him hard again. And I'm like going, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. The more I'm trying to apologize, the harder I'm hitting him. And he finally just, like, smacks me. And he goes, just get the fuck away from me.

Oh, my God. It was horrible. Then there was another guy. There was a guy named Ron Simmons, who I thumbed in the eye once. And I thumbed him, and I felt my thumb, like, go up in his eyelid. And I felt horrible. Not only did I feel horrible, but at the time, I was a rookie, and this guy was a former world champion.

He was at the respect of everybody. I was like, oh man, this guy's, I'm getting fired. This guy's going to kill me. And so I go back stage and I start to apologize to him. I'm going, run, man. I'm so, so, so sorry, man. And he goes, for what? I said, I thumbed you in the eye and he goes, no, no, no, I just had some sweat in my eye.

Like, he just would not sell it. Really? He didn't want to make me feel bad. He just wouldn't, he just like, you know, just one of those things just happens. He didn't want to make you feel bad about herself, about it, worry about it, just let it go. What about you? What about you? Have you ever been hit?

and you're like, motherfucker. Yeah, there was a few times. There was a couple times. Yeah, and I never really got pissed about it. Because usually it was just one of those things. It was either just, you know, somebody was being real stiff. They work stiff. You know, every once in a while I'll tell them to lighten up.

But it never really, I never minded being physical either. I was that guy never, a guy named Triple Age said to me early on in my career, he said we get paid a lot of money to beat the shit out of each other. And I just felt like that's a very fair statement. Yeah, right. So the crowds, you get their money's worth. It's not, you know, this is a theater of violence. That's the way I always looked at it.

So I'd never mind. I'd rather it look too physical rather than looking too fake. Yeah. So I never really mind it. But yeah, I've been punched pretty hard and beat up pretty good, been cut. You know, I don't mind being beaten up. I just, you know, when a guy injures you, that's something else. Because that's happened as well.

but I also, and I don't want to, you know, point fingers, but I've had guys put me in the hospital and had surgery at the fault of other people, and I never... Did you ever say I'm never wrestling them again? I did, I did. I wrestled them again. I worked with them again. I never took it personally. It was just something, you know, you just come back and you move on. If the company is not going to fault them and not going to blame them,

then I'm not going to do it either. Do you, I mean, where there's some guys you just like, it has to be, because I've acted with some guys. I've done stuff where you're like, I just fucking hate that. guy i just don't like that guy i've got a few fucking dick that guy's just a dick there's a lot of those guys especially when you're working under you know that type of environment where it's kind of a totem pole you know right um environment um it's changed a lot but when i was breaking in it was it was very much a total pole was a hierarchy and you had to take crap from assholes you know

some guys took advantage of it and they were bullies because they could get away with it did you ever get in a real altercation with another wrestler yeah i got in a fight with a guy named booker t uh over something really it was it was a personal issue it was a personal issue but it was the thing that really bothers me about that altercation is he started a fight with me when i was injured and it was and we got into it anyway but uh i always thought it was really really low of him to start a fight with me when he knew i was injured you know even if he was pissed of me or not you know you know fight a guy who's you know you know just dealing with an injury right it's it's like almost like trying to pick a fight with guy on the ice, you know, when he's, when he's exhausted,

he's about to get off the ice and you just got on, you're like, let's go. And you're like, dude, I'm fucking exhausted. What are you fucking, I'm winded. I can't fucking fight. You know what I mean? It's different. That's also you're injured. Being exhausted with not the full use of your, you know, your limbs.

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who's your uh who's your favorite wrestler of all time of all time um well when i was younger it was a wrestler named a warlord he was he was my favorite i i love this guy um and as i got older like probably if i had to pick a guy right now who was who i thought was like probably the best ever would be it would be triple h i think he's he's probably the best wrestler that's he's friends with them you guys talked yeah yeah all the time yeah all the time yeah he's a good would he be a good interview and he made my what's that would triple h be a good interview be a great interview yeah he's interesting as hell he's and he's obsessed with wrestling i don't know you know how how how interesting the interview would be outside of wrestling because i don't

know if i've ever really heard him talk about anything other than wrestling right that It'd be neat, though. He loves bodybuilding. I know that. Dude, I don't know if I ever told you, but I used to love that guy. He wasn't a wrestler, but remember Brother Love? Oh, yeah. He'd say, Dave Bautista, I love you.

But that don't mean I like you. I have an autographed picture from him. Yeah, Bruce Bridger. I think he has a podcast as well. Really? Brother Love? Yeah. Oh, my God.

You know, I was thinking, I know why you work because, you know, you, by the way, you just watch certain roles and you just like when you say you work so hard you see it like the first thing i told james when i saw guardians too was blatista stole the show by a mile i mean everybody's great batista i couldn't take my eyes off him it's he's the funniest fucking thing i've ever seen like he's so funny i can't i think i've told you that but i was just like you're you're so good your comedic timing and just the way it was done i'm like i i don't know why you wouldn't work forever you know i mean you're just a likable and you're great do you want to do because you've been doing a lot of comedy been doing a lot of comedy do you want to get like I don't know what I haven't seen the show see on Apple the the yeah I haven't seen that it's that dark seems like it'd be dark yeah it's a dark it's very post apocalyptic it's very much a character role for me it's you know my you know what I really want to do is just I like drama like just just regular I want that's what I'm going to say I want to see that you know it's like almost like a

character like Rooker did in Henry Portch of a serial killer. Something just like that you, I know you could, because you could pull all that shit from the past out, you have that in you. You know what I mean? Yeah, like those roles for me are hard to get a hold of, but I'm constantly searching for them. But, yeah, I'm limited sometimes on it. Sometimes it's really hard to get people to look outside the box and see someone

like myself in those roles. But yeah, I'm always in pursuit. You know, it's funny? Who in Hollywood would have thought Dave Bautista is going to be? fucking comedically genius. Who does, who's gonna, well, seriously, who's gonna watch any, any agent or, you know, studio who watches

Guardians goes, he's hilarious. This guy's got chops. So did you think, when you're wrestling and you're thinking, okay, I'm gonna try and transition in acting, and I remember you had those conversations and you were like, no, I shouldn't leave, should I leave, you were across, you didn't know.

They're like, if you do this, you're gonna ruin your career, you're never going to be an actor and all this shit that we taught. You guys could listen to that in the first interview. But were you thinking, dude, someone's going to hire me in a blockbuster Marvel movie, and I'm going to be comedically gifted. Did you think ever? What I'm saying, my reasoning for that is because so studios, it's going to happen. If they saw you, who would have imagined that? So why can't they imagine you as like the tough guy?

No, I never, no, I never would have thought that in a million years. And it's weird. It's the role in the first and the first, you know, the first one was James Gunn rewrote it. And Drax was written very differently than the second one. The second one, I think James kind of tapped into my humor a little bit on the first one and decided that he wanted to put more of that in the second one. But in the first film, like the comedic stuff was, it was a challenge for me. Like, I struggled with it. And some of that stuff, they reshot, like, the nothing goes over my head

because they really wanted to get a sense of Drax being such a literal character. But the stuff in the first film that I looked forward to was, like, the dramatic stuff. Like, Drax talking about, like, you know, his family being, you know, murdered right in front of them. And, like, that stuff, like, that scene, the really hard scene was cut out. It was cut out of the film because it was. It was just kind of slow and dark. But that was kind of the stuff I was looking forward to. It's funny that the comedy.

I never would have thought, man. I still don't. It's hard for me. I don't find myself funny. And it's, so it's hard for me to, you know, but I would like to do.

You know what I want to do? Is I want to do a rom-com. I think I've talked to you about this. I want to do a rom-com with Christian Shaw more than anything in the world. Like, I'm dying to do this rom-com. I would get this done. Like, well, somehow, I would get this stuff. I love.

So if you're some wrestler, blah, blah, blah. She falls in love. You're not the kind of guy she would ever date. give all these tats what does that mean you're like oh this one means mom but this one means fuck mom and he's like wait what she's like oh my god i would never date this guy and there's something charming and lovable about you it's kind of like that rocky relationship with adrian where he's like you know it's the only guy in the world that can get away with they're at a zoo

in the dead of winter and he goes you uh you know uh what are you doing for the next 50 years of your life and she goes why i don't know i thought you wouldn't mind marrying me too much you know what I mean you can play that romantic lovable I mean it's got to be something like that where you could just be that charming comedically but yeah I could see that dude I could see that

we tossed around a few ideas one of them was along those lines with me being a pro wrestler which I'm not at all opposed to whatever you know will be endearing and make people laugh but I think we would just make the most unlikely looking couple

ever and I love her and I love working with her she's actually I think she's not giving nearly enough credit for how talented she is man she's amazing and I love working with her I love being on set with her she's just so fun um so hopefully we can make that happen because I really want to do that well dude I hope that I know it will happen I don't hope it will happen I know it will happen I mean the shit you've done already where you've come from it nothing's going to surprise me if you told me you're running for president tomorrow let's not get started at this point I made I knew it I knew it I

have a son I would fucking rough you up rough of your feathers these are lastly these are shit talking for my patrons this is shit talking with Rosenbaum this is just a couple of questions you don't have to get real deep but you just they're going to ask you some questions

and you just you know Raj do you have a favorite tattoo yeah I have like a portrait of my dogs on my thighs that's probably my favorite all right Jason L favorite wrestler to work with again it would be Obey Hunter

be triple h triple h mark a what was your honest reaction i don't even know what this means blue tista so i what we did this pay-per-view um where i wore blue and it was i never lived it down like people were so focused that i wore blue for this paper view like my gear my wrestling gear was blue and i i was offended and the reason why i was offended is because it was a six-man tag match and we went out and killed ourselves. Like, we beat the hell out of each other, and we had a hell of a match, and we also was one of those things

where it was three older guys who had been around for a while trying to really step up. Yeah, step up of these kids, like just give them a rub and bring these kids even up. They were kind of already over, but just bring them to a different level, make them bigger stars.

And what people took away from that match was that I was wearing blue. Like, that's all they focus. on. Well, that's what people do. Amazing. But they were just so, you know, obsessed with that I was, they were so focused on me wearing blue that that was the big deal.

And they started, they dubbed me a blotista. And I thought it was just so stupid. Yeah, way to go, Mark A. Way to go. Way to ask me that. I should have done research on it. I was like, yeah, I'm sure they have something to do with drags or something. I don't know.

Little Lisa, if you could turn back the time and talk to your younger self, what would you tell them? Oh, man. I would just, you know, it's weird because I, uh, somebody asked me that before. My always fear is like if I could go back and tell my younger self, you know, this is going to happen, that's going to happen. Then what I have stopped working as hard would I have looked at life differently.

And I would never have wanted, I don't want to change things like that in my life. I'm, you know, proud of the way I grew up. I'm proud that I've accomplished what I have, you know, coming from nothing. So I think what I would have just said is, is that you're going to be okay dude you're not you're not going to die yeah days like that there even when i was bouncing there was nights when i thought i was going to walk out the door then the night and get shot like i didn't think i was making making it home like guys in the 90s in dc people were getting murdered hourly it was it was crazy like it was crazy how many people

and you were scared you were scared yeah hell yeah i mean i was i was worried i mean i was literally Like, we were all worried. We were getting threatened nightly. And it was such a violent place at the time. It was like a war zone. It was crack wars. You know, I always use that term that people,

you know, it sounds ridiculous. Crack Wars. But it was the side of the crack wars, man, where people were getting killed for their damn tennis shoes. And so that's what it was like. It was like walking out because I wasn't armed.

I'm not walking out. I can't defend myself, but there's people out here with, like, guns that are shooting you for stupid shit. And I was on, you know, on the nightly basis when I was bouncing, getting threatened.

And getting paid what? to do that right i was doing okay you know when i first started bouncing i wasn't making much at all but towards the end of my bouncing i was doing okay i was walking home with cash in my pocket every night you know because you're working with uh you know in bigger places with uh you know good clientele and you're getting tipped out um so it was okay i don't have that kind of complaint there was just times when i was just i you know i i blew through my money i didn't know how to spend it didn't know what to do with it so on good weeks i you know come home with a pocket full of money bad weeks i was it was gone i was broke by the end of the week you know jesus that's it just i

just like to you know tell my younger self that you're just you're gonna you're gonna make it out of this dude you're gonna make it off this block it actually that'd be pretty reassuring back then you know i mean i wish i think everybody wishes like i wish somebody would have told me in high school just dude you're gonna get hair on your balls don't worry one day there'll be a hair on your balls your girls will start to like you you're gonna grow You're going to do all these things, but just, you know, maybe don't let this one go. And maybe, maybe not worry so much about that stuff. And maybe deal with all your dysfunction now.

Or, you know, something like that. All right, Lisa, Lisa says, really quick, what industry is more cutthroat, professional wrestling or Hollywood? It's all professional wrestling by far. Wow. By far. Because it's still contained. It's so right there in front of your face. and there's so much, you know, Hollywood is, you know, it's, it's weird.

It is, it's a political business. It's a political environment. It's a relationship business. But there's always, there's so many more avenues. But with wrestling, there's really, there's one avenue, you know, up until recently, you know, and now there's another company that seems to be, a lot of guys seem to be gravitating towards. But at that time when I was there, there was only, there was only one place to be, or you weren't making a living. And it was just like a, it was a hundred guys right there.

in a locker room with you ready to cut your throat to put that belt around their waist and that's how it was it was just so right there in front of your face Jennifer Ann what was your favorite scene to play on Avengers end game oh end game

I was hardly in end game I was in it for I was very briefly and it was I was only a couple scenes it was like an action scene and I think a scene with Thor so it was probably the same team with Thor. I, you know, I'm not really an action guy. I don't really enjoy doing action. But, um, that's a pain in the ass. Endgame would be Thor. In Infinity War, it was, uh, the

invisibility thing. It was just, it was just so ridiculous. Emily asks, have you ever gotten excited to meet an other actor? If yes, who? Oh, God, man. Kurt Russell? Oh, I did. I was excited to meet Kurt, but I was, uh, like, oh, man, that's, that's a big question because there's been, there's been quite a few. I mean, there's even people that I worked with that I was excited to meet. Yeah, I'm sorry, man. I wish I had a name right. Even directors, man.

That's such a That's such a big question. You don't work with Stallone. Oh, man, again, man, like Stallone was, I took a job. I took this job. I wasn't crazy about the job, but I took it because I wanted to work with Stallone. What was that? I sat

in our first scene together. I got in and sat with Stallone. I said, look, man, I'm not going to be a fanboy today. And I said, but, you know, tomorrow, I'm probably going to ask you a hundred questions. And before we finish that scene, I had already contradicted myself. And I just went to town my quest after question. Who is this guy you put me with? I did that.

I did that. I was Stallone on the last day I waited. I waited. We had a good time. We had a good rapport. We laughed together. He knew my name, you know, called me, hey, dot face. Because I had these CGA dots in my face on the Guardians too.

And the last day, I brought my Rambo lunchbox. And I go, hey, would you sign this? He goes, wait a minute, how old are you? I'm like, what? He goes, how old are you? I'm like, I don't know, I'm 46. He's like, you got a lunchbox? You want me to sign the Rambo lunchbox?

I'm like, yeah, yeah, you can sign to my name. I don't want to sell it or anything. He's like, I do. Yeah, I do. I'll bring you with me next time. I'm getting to sign it. Dude, it's awesome. I love it.

Benjamin H., you're clearly a very disciplined guy to work with food exercise. what are some of the things you do to stay disciplined? You don't have to go on, but just what's the big thing? Well, I follow certain rules with my diet. I'm gluten-free. I don't eat red meat or pork. And so there's some of the rules of my diet, which actually helps a lot as far as maintaining my weight.

Because I can put on weight really easy. Like, I can be muscle-bound real easy. Other than that, I just, I don't, I work out because I have issues. So I work out so much to keep myself sane. This is all like a side effect of my mental issues. I look this way for a reason. And I work out because if I don't work out, I'm not in a good mood. I'm stressed, possibly violent.

I'm not the same, you know, centered person. So I need to, it's therapy for me, like working out is therapeutic for me. So I do those things. I work out no matter what it is or something I know. And how long a day? How long every day? It depends. An hour, two hours sometimes?

If I'm working out, like with weights, it could be 30 minutes to an hour. If I'm working out, I've been doing a lot more judici lately because I'm home. I could be in there two, three hours. I love it, man. You know, just get in there. And it's just to use human chess. And learning human chess is, to me, is, like, I can't get enough of it. Like, I just constantly watch.

It's good for the brain, too. What's that? the mind. Oh, incredible. It's credible for the mind. It really is, I was talking to the buddy I trained with his name is Josh Rafferty, and he's a Gracie Black Belt. We were talking about the other day, and it's like when you're doing Jiu-Jitsu, all you think about is Jiu-Jitsu, you just lose sight of everything else. You're just so focused, so dialed in. So it just really, it's, again, it's so therapeutic for me and exhausting as well. Last two, Jeremy, and what things did you set as goals growing up and how many

stood the test of time? I didn't have any goals growing up. And I know this sounds stupid, but like when I was growing up, I wanted to be not dead and not in jail. Like those are my goals. Talk about grateful. It goes back to that being grateful, right? Yeah.

Yeah. And I know it sounds ridiculous but those literally, those were, those are my goals. I just didn't want to be in jail. I didn't want to be dead. Pat E. Out of everything you look at your career, your life, what would you like to be remit? What would you like remembered about you? I hope that, you know what I'd really like to do?

And I don't know if I've done it yet, but it's always my goal to, like, inspire people, especially, like, poor kids. And that's what, you know, hopefully I'll, you know, I'll get that project one day that will just inspire, like, people, like, that's what I want to do. And I use that word a lot because I like to be inspired. This is why I love stories. I love films. I love television.

I love the inspiring stories. So hopefully, you know, I can, you know, achieve that goal of just inspiring, inspiring people. If nothing else, maybe it's through my story of just, you know, coming from nothing and making a conscious effort is just not waste my life. You know, maybe that I don't inspire you. That's exactly what I was going to say. I was going to say you are, you are. Just by you telling these stories, by telling where you come from, that inspires people. when people look like, this is a guy who could die any night.

This is a guy who saw so much violence. He wasn't going to amount to anything. What is he going to do with his life? And to be a movie star. And I look at you and it's somebody who inspires me. And it's just nice. It's fun to be around you. I mean, you're one of those guys that remember, you're like, hey, come to Disneyland.

You know, you're just a, you're like a kid like me. I think we're both like that. We just want to have fun. We're on a set. And you get around people who just take things so seriously. And I like to be around people that don't take things so seriously. not that you don't but sometimes you don't no but i agree i mean there's there's one thing you know there's taking yourself seriously and taking yourself way too seriously yeah and i some things

should be like i like filmmaking is as fun to me like i i i love being there i love doing i love being a part of the process and some people to see people you know it gets so demanding and so irritable and so moody and still bitchy about like what man this is fun yeah it should be fun and i but i Well, when I get, when I start to perform, I take myself seriously, and I'm my own worst critic. So I'm beating myself up more than anybody. But at the same time, I'm enjoying the hell out of being there. Like, I'm grateful as hell for being there. And I'm not going to bitch at people for stupid shit, you know.

Yeah. Do you, uh, go ahead. No, no, you go. No, you go. I was just going to say, I don't do this as much, but are you this hard on yourself when you look in the mirror in the morning, do you go? Do you look at yourself and go, all right? you look good you're or are you always like fucking ugly fucking this fucking that fucking this you got to work on this your traps are like shit you know it's funny man i i i had this conversation with myself recently and because no i never wake up but i you know i like i also accept my faults and i just it is kind of is what it is

but i recently uh because i've been working out so much and i did post a picture on myself last week because i felt like i i don't know i felt like a pretty good about myself, but there's been a couple times recently where I felt like, yeah, man, I'm getting in good shape. I'm going to take a picture right now. I'm posting because I feel good about myself. Then I'll take a picture and I'll be like, man, that doesn't look good. Man, that's not good. And then I'll just abandon the whole idea.

I was like, man, I'm going to work out harder. Yeah. Well, dude, this has been a treat, man. I love you taking the time. You're just a, you know, you're just a genuine guy I love talking to. And when this is all over, you're definitely getting hugged. And I'm going to take you up on your offer to come to Tampa. Yeah, for sure.

Sure. Yeah, you do. You're always welcome here, man. Dude, you're awesome. One of the, my favorite people in the world. And also, I'm going to text you, you know, I always have neck issues. And you're probably the guy to talk to. I've had a couple of neck surgeries. I know you've had a lot of shit. I want to talk to you about just exercises I could do just to take the tightness and the traps and all that stuff. Because I'm just always tight. And I know you have some answers. Yeah, I do. And like, I don't know the origins of your issues, but we'll talk about it. And I have a piece of, I have a machine that I try. with because of my neck, and I swear by it. Is it the thing where you lie down, you pump it up? No, that's a, God, what is that called? That's a traction machine. Right, right.

This is actually, it's something that's preventative maintenance. It's like an exercise machine. It's called pro neck. And what it does is just helps you exercise your neck. Please send me a link, I'll buy it today. It will. And it's just, it's as much resistance as you want. The resistance is through a bungee cord.

So it's like a nice light resistance, or you guys, and make it tougher if you want, but it really is to just really exercise those muscles in your neck. I love it. I love you, and this has been awesome. I can't. What's next?

When this is all over? I mean, I know you did an episode of, I haven't seen it. When could I see what we do in the shadows? It was a great movie and, you know, and I want to see it.

So you appeared on that show. Yeah, I did a, so last, last year, I'm sorry, their first season I was, did a guest spot. And they wanted me to come back and do a reoccurring role,

but I just wasn't available. which killed me because I love for one I love the show I'm a huge fan of the show but I also love Tyca he's just he's just he's a good dude he's such an interesting guy but I wanted to work with him again but yeah it's out there I also did a really

a really cool episode of a show called Room 104 that eventually will come out I'm really excited about it because it's a different type of role for me and then I got it you know I'm still on C so I'll go back and finish that we're right into like episode two or three right see on apple and then you got guardians of galaxy and pre-production so that's going to happen eventually army of the dead dude what's that about is that zombie shit great this gets great

i've seen a little bit of it um have you watched the kingdom on freaking netflix oh it's a south korean zombie fucking show bautista watch it you'll go okay rosie what the hell two episodes episode three and on you're going to shit your pants i will i watch it i'm really bad about like I've just, I've been so disconnected to the last few years. I think it's just because I've been so focused on work. And also, I have to say that I'm really enjoying, enjoying the fuck out of working with Jason Mamoa. What a guy. What a nice

guy. Yeah, we've been having a lot of fun. A lot of fun. He's just like a big kid, man. I really love that guy. Every time I see him at a convention or something. Totally is. So we have that in common and the whole motorcycle thing. Yeah. So yeah, we're I think we're cut from the same clock. Well, I love it. I won't keep you any longer.

This has been fantastic and I love you and I'm going to text you later, man. Thank you for doing it. Thank you for allowing to be inside of you, my friend, again. Yeah, you're always welcome to get all up inside of me, man. I love it. All right. Take care of yourself, man. Bye, bro.

I love that man. I love Dave Battista. I just, when you listen to him, how could you not love this guy? Great interview. Just so open. And we need that. A good friend of mine. He's become a good friend of mine.

And, you know, how we met, which we talk about, I think, in the first time he came in. But, you know, he was on Smallville, but I didn't get to work with him years ago. And then I was at a convention signing autographs. And somebody said, hey, Michael, Dave Batista would like to say goodbye to you before you leave because he heard that on the announcement that you're leaving. Michael Rosenbaum was leaving. I think maybe he means like Michael Rooker because they worked with Bautista

Dave Bautista wants to talk to me so I went up to his table he's like hey man I just I just wanted to say hello I heard your name and I just want to say hi and I'm like oh my gosh who does that nobody nobody does that

Dave Bautista does and from there I just like I just and of course I'm like can I we should talk or something get you on my podcast and he did it and he's uh so enough about him he's a gym uh let's do a we're going to read some fan mail some really cool letters that came in first uh why don't i and i'm announce the patrons but i want to read this this is this really cool thing um this expressive art therapist comer she um she found this and i remember she read it to me and uh last year when I went to that place to kind of get my shit together.

But I just thought it was beautiful, and it kind of just made me think about now. And I don't know, I'm just going to share it with you. You could fast forward. But I think it's really great. The title is trusting. If you read the front page story of the San Francisco Chronicle on Thursday, December 14th, 2005, you would have read about a female humpback whale who had become entangled in a spider web of crab traps and lines. She was weighed down by hundreds of pounds of traps that caused her to struggle to

stay afloat. She also had hundreds of yards of line rope wrapped around her body, her tail, her torso, a line tugging in her mouth. A fisherman spotted her just east of the Farallone Islands, outside of the Golden Gate, radioed an environmental group for help, and within a few hours, the rescue team arrived and determined that she was so bad off, the only way to save her was to dive in and untangle her, which was a very dangerous proposition. One slap of the tail would kill a rescuer.

They worked for hours with curved eyes, and eventually they freed her. When she was free, the divers say she swam in what seemed like joyous circles. She then came back to each and every diver one at a time and nudged them, pushed them gently around. She thanked them. Some said it was the most incredibly beautiful experience of their lives. The guy who cut the rope out of her mouth says her eye was following him the whole time, and he will never be the same

May you and all those you love be so blessed and fortunate to be surrounded by people who will help you get untangled from the things that are binding you. Is it just me or is that just freaking beautiful?

I don't know what to tell you. Oh, let's get into the Patreon. I want to thank all my patrons. Patrons. It's Patreon, but my, how do we say that? Wow. Again, incredible.

I'm doing these fun things now, too. If you're not a patron, you know, we have a thing called Inside of Me. Pretty much, you know, I answer their questions, so they get to ask me questions, and I answer them. Obviously, I film them. I filmed myself playing a character, and that was fun.

So we'd do a back and forth thing, and it was just, I had a really good time, maybe because I'm quarantined, but it's funny. I think. And thank you again, the top tiers, all the tiers. I just sent the merch boxes for the top tiers. And we did a bonus app.

We did a live YouTube. I've done two of them now. We're all the patrons. Every one of them get on there. And, you know, I play songs and stuff. It's like an Instagram live, but private for just my patrons. So thank you. Thank you for sticking around.

It means so much to me. And it surprises me every day. I look at all these people and it's a community and a family. And I love them. Nancy D. Mary B. Leah S. Tricia F. Xera V.

Yukiko! I yelled that one. Yiquico. Jill E. Brian H. Lauren G. Nico. P. Nico. Barry. L. Barry. I love that you're still around.

Angelina G. Jerry W. Kevin R. Emily K. B. Robert B. B. Bortex. I love you, Bortex. Jason W. Tiana. Andrew C. Allison L. Mark A. Jason D. Jason D. Chris Raj. Raj C. Sean W. Joshua. D. D. Emily S. C.J.P. Rocks, Raccoon. Samantha M. Humza. Humza. Humza. Humza. Humza. Jennifer N. Stacey's mom has got it going on. Sorry. Carly T. Vanessa in the sky. Vanessa in the sky. Ream. Jennifer S, Janelle B, Neil W, Tab of the 272, Kimberly, E, Melissa C, Mike, E, Jake M, Catherine, M, Jack S, Carly S, Carly S, Carly S, Carly S, Ramira, Ramira, Ramira, Ramira, Ramira, Chris F, and Chad W. Top to your patrons, holy crap, keeping me afloat. I love you guys. Here's a fan letter for you that was really special.

I thought I'd share it with you. I hope, I don't know why I'm yelling again. Hi, Michael. It's from Leanne. Just want to shoot you a quick email and let you know how profoundly the podcast has affected my life. I'm a special education teacher. I work with blind and visually impaired children. With the shelter in place, life has been really crazy and I've been having anxiety attacks. Listening to the podcast has really helped me relate to other human beings, so we're going through the same stuff that I am. My sister's. a nurse, and she also experiences anxiety along with depression. She's not been able to work for the past two years due to this. I turned her onto the podcast, and she told me today

that it has been a huge help to her as well. Thank you for your kindness and using the medium to reach out to people. You'll never know how much you truly help us all. I'm attaching a picture at the bottom so you can put a face to the name. I'm the blonde on the left. Mom is in the middle. sisters on the right thank you thank you and thank you michael rosenbaum you are forever appreciated and loved leanne pritchett and she has a little quote from john fitzgerald kennedy one person can make a difference and i sound like forest gum i'm not going to even try it ask not what your country can do no one person can make a difference and everyone should try john fitzgerald kennedy another great episode i hope

you guys enjoyed it as much as i do remember mental health week is coming i think it's just really important and these women these amazing women therapists of mine and now friends have said yes to coming on here and helping all of you all of us so again please subscribe share the podcast get people to listen to it it's up to you i love you all and um thank you for allowing me to be an all thank you for allowing me to be inside all of you all right football season is here oh man believe has the podcast to enhance your football experience from the pros one of the most interesting quarterback rooms to college michigan is set at eight and a half wins to fantasy if you feel that way why didn't you

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