Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - DAVID TENNANT: Doctor Who Coincidences, Anxiety Management & Embracing Your Inner-child

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

David Tennant (Doctor Who, Broadchurch) joins us this week to share his perspective on managing stress and anxiety with difficult roles as an actor, all the while embracing your inner child to maintain a sense of joy in your work. David talks about the surreal nature of getting to play Doctor Who after growing up watching the character; while noting the wild coincidences how the Doctor has crept into his personal life. We also talk about how he taps into character for darker performances, the skin-crawling experience of working with difficult personalities, and the freedom that comes with being seen’ in your relationship. Thank you to our sponsors: 🚀 Rocket Money: ⁠https://rocketmoney.com/⁠ (tell them we sent you!) 🚗 NHTSA: https://www.nhtsa.gov/ 🧠 IDEO-U: https://ideou.com/inside ❤️ This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/inside and get on your way to being your best self __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou 👕 Inside Of You Merch: https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🤣 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod 🌐 Website: https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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land rover.ca. If you're listening to Inside of You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum, I just want to give a heads up that I love David Tennant. and this was a great interview, and I adore him. But the video quality on his side, we zoomed, isn't great all the time. So just give me a break. You know, in the YouTube comments, you don't have to say, well, the video was shitty. Well, just listen to it then. Don't bitch at me, will you?

But, yeah, David is an extraordinary talent, but also an extraordinary human being. I loved, I loved interviewing him. And he was so kind. I saw him at a con. and we've bumped into each other but we didn't really know each other and I just said hey you know there's any way you'd come on the podcast

he goes yeah sure I go really he goes yeah take my email and we set it up and it was done there's just no no like ah you know I don't really do those and a treat and if you haven't watched brought

you not to uh attempt the Scottish accent he's Scottish yeah yeah I didn't i didn't i didn't do that no i could actually if i wanted to no how would i see it from the back is through if you want to like that david's rolling his eyes now stop um but listen just a few things um if you love the podcast and you're here for david tenant and you actually say hey this is pretty good please subscribe and support me support the podcast uh write a review and if you really want to join the podcast and join a great community you could join patreon

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that's about all i have for that but uh ryan you're doing all right you're taking care of your uh MH. The old mh, the old mental mental health? The old mental health. Yeah. Are you going any concerts this year? Yeah, I got a couple on the calendar. And usually probably you might have a hit off a reefer.

It'll happen. Well, I mean, you're a smart guy. I mean, if you think you're going to do anything to alter your abilities to drive an automobile and risk other lives, what are you going to do? You're going to call a car service. that's exactly right it's very simple smart people should know this and we do there's a lot of reasons why people shouldn't drive right but the biggest one to me is like if you're under

something under you know if you're if you're smoking pot if you're doing drugs if you're why do you think that you're okay to drive driving is is is tough enough to be a way of your surroundings, you know, people shouldn't be texting, but they do. So now if you add drugs into the equation and you're, it's altering you. It's freaking dangerous. And did you know that driving under the influence of marijuana is illegal? You should know that. I hope you know that. If you drive while you're high, law enforcement can definitely tell. If you feel different, you drive different i mean if you if you i think people think oh you know i just i'm just a little high i can drive i'm just i'm actually more careful it's bananas i don't understand it look

drive high get a d ui paid for by nitsa well okay well look let's just do this um again the the quality isn't great but it's it's it's watchable and uh the sound is great and uh the sound is great and David is amazing. So let's get inside of David Tennant. It's my point of view. You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. It's awesome having you here.

It really is. Well, thanks for having me. I mean, you're always working. And people are probably always asking you to do stuff. So when I came up to you, you probably were like, oh, fuck, I have to do this. No, not you, Michael. Of course not.

No, I mean, I know when I know when there's something to turn up for and this is it. This is it. How many podcasts do you do? I know you have your own podcast. Are you still doing that? Yeah, I did my own podcast. I did three runs of it and the third one has just finished. It just been released.

It was very much a kind of a little. sort of side hustle, which it was exactly what Kristen Ritter called it when she did my podcast. And that's what I referred to as ever since. So it was just a little thing I did for fun. Once upon a time, back in the real world, and then through lockdown, I did a second lot. And I've just done a third little run of them now. Yeah. Do you love it? Do you love just talking to people and shooting the shit? I love doing it and I love that it exists. I find the prep very stressful. Do you prep a lot? I do prep a lot. I don't have the confidence. I don't feel like a journalist. I don't feel like I've got the skill set to hand. So I, I, I over prepare. And then a lot

of it just goes for nothing, but I do. I over prepare. I figure you got to know a little bit about somebody and then you have a conversation and then you sort of start remembering things that you might have read or I think there's a bit of that. Yeah. What's your process? Because you've, I mean, you're an old hand at this now. I mean, yeah, I guess I've done like 350. I guess, you know, I don't do a lot of research. I sometimes ask my nerd friends, like my friend Troy, who's also a huge fan of yours. I'll, you know, I text Kristen. And she, I wish she would allow me to play her voice message to you. But she hasn't approved yet because she's in, she's at the gym. But, um, right. Okay. She said so much.

many nice things. I mean, she went on. She goes, David is the most honestly, this is what she said, her voice message, if I could play it. David is the most amazing actor and human being ever, ever, ever. He blew my mind working with him. His performance was always so real and a little different each time. And she just went on. And I'm telling you, she went on. Well, I'm delighted. She's great. I mean, she was, she was just brilliant as Jessica Jones. Wasn't she? I mean, it was one of the all-time great performances. I think she's just. just magnificent. And now she writes books as well. She writes books.

She nets sweaters. Is there anything she can't do? I wrote a book. Well, it's a fart book. It's called The Talented Farter. It just came out. Yeah. Believe it or not, Simon & Chuster put it out. It's a colorful sound book. It's for kids

and adults alike. I shall check it out. I love a fart gag. I'm always there for a fart gag. Do your kids fart? Not enough. I would encourage them to fart more. My wife does not like farting and she does not appreciate a fart joke. It's one of the few things we disagree on. Really? That's got to be difficult. I feel like if my girlfriend didn't like farts, I really couldn't be myself. It's difficult. It is difficult. I mean, I don't stop myself. I don't hold back. But these are some of the most difficult moments in our relationship. Why do I always hear how great of a guy you are from everybody? Why is that? I pay a lot of people a lot of money. Do you pay a lot?

I mean, is it, is it like, I mean, it can't be an act. You can't put this on all the time. I mean, it's got, the bad always shines through sometimes and you see the real, you know, person. But like, every time I hear David Tenon, I hear, oh, my God, I love him. He's, he's great. He's so sweet. He's, is it, is it, is it, do you think that's from growing up? It was your, your environment that you were in, uh, or how you were raised that has an

influence on that? Do you know, I'm probably not the person to ask, am I? Because whilst I'm thrilled to hear these things, I also get a little bit nervous and shy at any sense of being, being praised in that way. It feels almost like hubris to acknowledge that it might be true. So I don't know, I'm a bit, makes me a little bashful, Michael. Really? But the question really is, is that, you know, when you, you know, you raised, your father was a minister. he was a minister in the church that's right yeah do you do you think you were heavy heavily influenced by that I mean are you a religious person or do you I mean can you just shout out proverbs and shit like that I had a religious phase as a teenager um but but it's not something I am now but I definitely was

brought up I think my dad was a was was one of the good Christians uh because sometimes sometimes these are ideologies that can be made to stand for a lot of stuff that I don't see in any version of the Bible that I recognize so he was very much he lived he was a good human he was a good man and he was very self-effacing and very true to what he believed

the things that he taught meant and I so I certainly feel like I hope that I inherited some of his morality because it was to be cherished, for sure. Yeah. Do you think, like, his work ethic that you saw how hard he worked and how much he achieved

that you, that it kind of bounced off on you? Yeah, that's probably, that is probably something that he was, it was always to be admired about him, yeah. Yeah, he was, he was a grafter, for sure. I mean, growing up, I mean, did you really watch Doctor Who when you were, like, just a kid?

I did. That's so, that's amazing. Oh, it's crazy. I mean, the, the chances of, of, of, of, of, That being something that then was repeated in adulthood, or vanishingly small. It feels like I won a lottery ticket there, yeah. Were you nervous when you were then on Doctor Who when you were filming and you're going, and this is, this is crazy.

Of course. Of course, because it was like, for a long time, it felt like an out-of-body experience. The whole being on set with the props that I had fetishized as a child. I mean, I had TARDISs all over my bedroom. I had pictures of the doctor on my wall. I dreamt of, you know, having that, playing on that console. So to finally have it and to have some sort of ownership of it, it was very surreal. Yeah, but the show was being run by someone who was in the same boat.

Russell T. Davis, who's now back running Doctor Who again, he grew up as a fan of the show. Because, of course, it's been on since 1963. I was born in 71 and it was part of the certainly the UK prime time TV schedule for all the years that I was growing up it was a big part of the cultural furniture

in this country and I know it went round the world but it was it was a bit harder to find perhaps in the US and other places around the world here it was just it was prime time it was a huge huge show so I was one of many fans

that grew up with it and many fans who now work on the show as adults and who were inspired to go into that kind of creative industry as a result of that, yeah. Yeah, I just feel like if I was a big fan of something, like for instance, if I was a huge Superman fan, just to die hard, and then I was Lex Luthor,

which, yeah, yeah, yeah, it blew your mind. How big a fan were you? I wasn't at all, but what I'm saying is, no, I just, I mean, I watched the Superman movies. I'm looking at a Gene Hackman autograph poster, but pretty cool I just wasn't I was a horror movie fan growing up because of my mom

she always made me watch horror movies with her but I guess what I'm thinking is was it weird to then be in this role after watching it and was it hard for you to watch yourself or was it hard to be a fan still while you were on the show yeah it moves you're not you move from being a fan to something else

because it's you're sort of you're sort of too close to it It doesn't mean you don't have an enthusiasm and a joy for it. That has never died. Yeah. And that's still there. But yeah, it's odd and it's surreal. And yet it feels oddly right. It feels oddly inevitable.

And it's like everything you kind of, the eight-year-old self in you. Yeah. The 30, whatever I was, the 36-year-old self, I was just I think of the age I was when I did it, is going, what? This is impossible. This can't be happening. This isn't real. The eight-year-old self, which lives within all of us still very vividly, the eight-year-old self is going, yep, that's right. This is where we were always headed. And now we've arrived. That's a beautiful thing to be able to connect those. You know, that's what keeps us going. The inner child, it has to come out. You have to embrace it. I think when you lose that, that's when you kind of fade a little bit. Like you get away from your dreams and your hopes and your when those things come together

it's it's pretty magical you know sure and I think as actors we have an advantage in that we're always we sort of rely on our inner child don't we it's the inner child that kind of because we're make believe in every day and so you get to kind of keep that

on a good healthy simmer as you grow older whereas I suspect that's probably harder if you go off to work in insurance or something I mean I'm sure there are lots of people who have wonderful creative lives, even if their professional life, is more uniform. But it's easier if every day you're going to work and pretending to keep the inner child alive. Mine certainly is very vivid still.

Do you truly love what you do? Do you truly love acting? Is it something, do you feel like when you were younger and you were, you know, because you're my age? But, you know, the 20s, the 30s, There's an enthusiasm. There's that drive. Do you think you still have that? Or it's become a little bit more work now, but it's still fun? Like, is there a happy medium? I guess it's a bit more work because as you become an actual grown-up

and you have, like, you know, a mortgage and children and stuff and things that you have to maintain, inevitably there's a certain transactional quality that has to be there you need to pay the you know the outgoings and all that but I do still I do still love it I do I don't feel I always feel a little bit temporary about it I always feel like it's precarious and maybe whilst that isn't entirely comfortable maybe that helps to keep it feeling alive I genuinely always think this next job is my

last job. You do? People think I yeah people think I'm I'm making that up but but but it's that there's a sort of whether that's a work ethic or whether that's a fear or there's something I I there's always a sense of me that thinks it could stop it could all be over and and I think that that helps to keep keep it enjoyable I think do you still get nervous on set or is it just like maybe the first day and then you let it go or you pretty much envision. sort of in your work and and you just do what you know you can do. Do you ever, the nerves ever get in the way?

Yeah, they definitely can for sure. It's not something that I feel like I've ever entirely conquered. It's also something I think can be quite a bit of something of a useful engine as well. I think nerves and anxiety as long as it doesn't overwhelm. It's keeping these things. In check. Proportional.

Exactly. Yeah. I do quite a lot of theater as well. I know. And that's where the nerves. You really do have to battle with those demons there because it's so kind of, you know, you're stepping out. It's like jumping out of a plane.

You're stepping out in front of the audience and you have to deliver it. And you have to not forget what you're doing. And you're increasingly adult brain has to keep moving in the right direction. Do you do theater? I started out in the theater. I did a lot of theater growing up.

And then I moved to New York after college and did a couple shows. And then I moved to L.A. And that was sort of it and never went back. And that's not something you miss? I mean, there's that camaraderie. There's that kind of, you know, that college feel like you're working with people. And it's not like, it's a lot different. And it's community and it's, um, and that instant, uh, reaction from the audience and that,

that feel of, it's like, you know, the live audience. I love that. I do miss that Yeah, I don't know why I just, it kind of faded that It's not that I would never do it again But I mean, but to me you It feels like if you could do Hamlet

Which you did Nothing should make you nervous Oh my Lord Well Hamlet made me the most nervous So there you go I mean that was The opening The first public performance of Hamlet

I think it was the most scared I've ever been. Could you feel it like in your chest? Do you remember the feeling? I remember the feeling vividly because I, I, it also coincided with it. I'd just been doing Doctor Who. So I'd sort of, I'd kind of lost my anonymity, I guess. So there was a set,

there was a spotlight on me then going back and doing a, doing a play, which was more intense. I felt like the world was watching in a way that they probably didn't really care when I was doing a play in Dundee Rep, when I was 22. It felt a bit more scrutinised, I suppose. And it's Hamlet, which is kind of the play and the part and that whole sort of classical theatre tradition.

I was doing it at the Royal Shakespeare Company. It all felt like a big, scary, pointy thing. And I, the very, particularly that first performance, was overwhelming. It really, and there was a moment when I thought, oh no I I can't do this I am going to have to report out front that this the show is off because it was absolutely overwhelming I mean it was sweats and it was like nausea you had to go to the bathroom I was on the I was on the floor of my dressing room in the fetal position I was genuinely no I'm serious I'm sorry I know because I've been there right right right well you get it yeah I thought I don't know how I tell people that everyone's going to have to go home but I'm I'm going to have to I thought about that. I thought about if I just go to the airport right now and get on a flight and just leave and never come back, I'll be okay.

How long could I keep running before I try to go? Yeah, it's so terrifying. It's overwhelming. And was there somebody who sat you down and said, David, people are going to be critics. People are going to do this. You're great. Do what you do. You got this.

Take a deep breath. Let's just do it. There was one woman. She was called Linda Arnley and she was the voice and verse expert at the Royal Shakespeare Company. She was also a lovely woman. Sadly, no longer with us, greatly missed.

And she came round the dressing rooms just to go, have a good show! Jolly Jolly! And she found me in a heap. And Lynn Arnley came in and just sort of talked me around and just made me breathe, made me think. just have a little bit of objectivity, just take a moment

and was kind and was patient and literally got me on stage that night and I mean, I don't know. Would I have gone on stage without or who knows? Would I've got out of the fetal position? It didn't feel like I could. But she came at exactly the right moment and she saved me.

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I don't think I'm more emotional than most. I think it's something I've had to learn to allow myself to be. The sort of Scottish Presbyterian upbringing was not particularly emotional. It was there was probably a guardedness that was inculcated in us in Glasgow in the 70s. But I've got better. I think. What about auditioning? I mean, do you still audition?

I haven't auditioned a lot lately. I had an audition. It's probably been a couple of years since I had an audition, yeah. Do you miss that? Because there is, look, there's a wonderful thing about just getting an offer. There's nothing better.

It's like, oh my God, I don't have to audition for this. It's an offer. It's the best bit, right? Because after that, because then it's all potential. You haven't made a decision, nothing. It's just,

somebody phones you up and goes, somebody somewhere likes you. That's it. But what's scary is, at least in an audition, they go, yes, that's what we want you to do.

Yeah. And then you're like, okay, I go on set, I know what they want. I know the character. So what I'm thinking is you get an offer

and you come on in and like, oh, David, no, that's nothing. We don't want you to do that. Oh, do you know what? That's not a thought that troubles me,

but now you've said it. Now it's troubling you. So you quite like, you enjoy an audition? No, no, I hate both. Oh, okay. I hate offers. No, no, I, you hate the whole thing. You know, I guess what it is when you get an offer is if you have a really good conversation with the creator and you just talk about what you're going to do and it's like, you know, I did a role like this.

There's a, yeah, what you did with that, you know, just to make sure it's not you're showing up and just doing it and then you're doing it all wrong. Yes, that's, you're right. You're right to worry about that. and now that's all I'm going to think about going forward with everything I do. But it's a, yeah, that's interesting. I don't know that I trust those people in those rooms in those moments though

because they are sort of auditioning themselves as well. I mean, they are sort of figuring out what they think. And I feel like I've, I feel like I've gone to, I've been in auditions in the past where they've said it's this, this and this. And you try and provide that for them having thought it was something else.

You don't get the part. And then you see the finished product and it's somebody doing, something that they didn't. You know what I mean? I think there's a lot of variables. And I think the creatives at every level are just as vulnerable to changing their mind, probably. You know, they always say less is better. Do you feel like as your career has sort of gone on that you have internalized a lot more and you look at yourself in the past and go, oh, you know, I was a little big or I was a little too much. Oh, God. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You,

do. For sure. Yeah. It's definitely been a journey toward minimalism. I'm not there yet. I still see myself chewing the scenery at times and wonder how I'm possibly ever going to be employed again. I don't see that at all, by the way. Oh, well, thank you. Thank you. I wasn't, I wasn't angling for that, but thank you all the same. Yeah, I definitely, definitely. But then sometimes you just got to cut loose and enjoy yourself, haven't you? Oh, yeah. I mean, do you ever feel like you're on something, not drugs, but you're on the set and you're like, this is probably not good.

My gut says this show is probably not good. So, fuck it. I'm just going to fuck around. I'm going to have fun. Ah, I see. I don't know that I, well, have I. Have you ever been on something that you know probably isn't going to be good and you were right about it?

I think I'm very good at deluding myself in the moment to go. I mean, there's a lot of reasons why this shouldn't work. But hey, everyone's here. Everyone's turned up. It's going to be great. I think I'm quite in the moment I can pull the will over even my own eyes, I think. But then ultimately you look back and go, no, I mean, you always knew what was coming. But then sometimes you don't.

Some range you're in the middle of something thinking, this is dog shit. And then it turns into the biggest thing of your career. So, you know, I don't trust my own judgment. I don't think, really. Do you think you always know? Yeah, I'm pretty good. Oh, you do. I'm pretty good. I've been pretty good.

I mean, there's some things I thought were going to be better and weren't. But it was due to editing and like certain other things that, you know, I don't think he got the right footage, enough footage. enough this enough you know character um but there's been moments where i'm like wow this is and what do you do that's my question to you i i guess you just like you say you do your best you just have to do your best you just can't oh sure yeah yeah yeah right uh absolutely and the the hardest thing is if you're if you think well my best is this and you've got someone going, no, no, no, I don't, I don't want that, I want this. And you're thinking, everything

you're asking me to do, I disagree with. And then you're, then you're left with that thing of going, do I, can I literally disregard everything a director is telling me? To save yourself. Can I have the confidence of my own sort of self-belief? That's what, I think that's the trickiest bit when you're, when you're in a sort of, not necessarily a conflict, but a disagreement with what's going to work with the people with someone else who's part of that process

and you know and if you're filming something you've got to sort of decide that afternoon because at the end of the afternoon the scene's done and you're never going back to it again that I find very difficult

and that's when I struggle with my own sense of knowing what's good and bad yeah no it's hard sometimes do you you know I have so many questions for you I just I you know you have

you've done so many questions for you many great things. But what's the most difficult challenge for you? What role besides theater, obviously Hamlet, you know, and some of the things you've done. But what is one of the most difficult roles or, you know, I guess roles in general that you've played? I don't know. It's, I mean, there are different things that can be difficult, aren't there? There can be something that's just a lot of work that's just, and it's just keeping up with, you. knowing what you're doing the next day and having all the lines down

and just a physical act of it is very difficult because there's a lot of it. But that at least is something you can, that's more of a sort of, that's a problem that you can address just by doing it. What's harder is,

it's sort of a bit like what we were talking about before when something doesn't quite work and you sort of know you can't quite grab it and you can't quite figure out what the solution is you just know it's not quite there and that's maybe partly what you're bringing to it or partly what you're getting or when it just doesn't feel like it's jelling and you have to sort of do something and the day comes to the end and you walk away and you think oh that didn't really we did not complete a day that felt good see that weighs on you doesn't it yeah exactly it really

That's when I can start to spiral and then the next day is harder. No. No, you can. Yeah, it's funny because you have like, you know, you do a scene and you leave and you go, I don't, I don't, I don't know, you're asking your makeup artist. Was that good? Yeah, it was great. I was like, I don't trust you.

And then you realize they don't care. They just want to go home, which is fair enough, by the way, absolutely. I was looking at your hair. Yeah. Your hair was great. Yeah. Yeah. And then you have to go do another scene thinking, oh, did we get.

that scene. Yeah. And then it's cumulative because then the next scene feels like and then it feels that the whole thing slipping away from. And then you go home and you start to piece the scenes together to see how they work. Oh, I was this and then this. And then you're like editing the movie in your head while you're trying to sleep. Yeah. And you have no control. So why don't you just let it go? Why don't we just let it go? Which is the only thing you can do, but you don't. And the next day you go in and you think, well, if I do, if I move this scene slightly into this area, maybe that compensates for the pile of crap I did yesterday. And then I, and the whole, and it's all, it's like sand slipping through your fingers. We talk about mental health on this podcast a lot

and like, you know, facing adversity. I've dealt with a lot of anxiety in my life. And, you know, it's just, I guess you've had anxiety your whole life. Yeah. I probably wouldn't have known to call it that. Me too. And again, that probably my upbringing didn't really allow us to feel like that was a response to anything that one had the legitimacy to have, you know, it wasn't, it was something that was for the likes of us. But yes, of course. And I probably have learnt to appreciate it and give it its due. And sometimes it can be a little bit. I do think a little bit can be helpful. But it's just, it's when it starts to overwork. and become unhelpful, that is something that you have to, I don't know, figure out.

And I don't know that I've ever come up with a single compelling solution. But yeah, it's something I certainly struggle with at different times. You know, they say you can't really prepare for an anxiety attack. You can't really prepare for it. But like, I think you can. The more I think about it, if you're overworked and you're not sleeping and your diet's poor and you're not exercising, You should know it's coming.

Yeah. Yeah, that's probably true. It changes as well when you have a family, I find, because then there's less space for you. And sometimes that can be very helpful because you have to sort of get over yourself a little bit. But then the danger is there is no space and that can paint you into a corner. Yeah, but what do you do? You don't really have a thing that you do is if you know it's come. Is there something you can do that will help?

I mean, it's the obvious thing, isn't it? It's admitting it and talking about it. But that's often much harder to do than it should be. Since I met Georgia and we've been married now for, God, how long have we been married? We met something like 18 years ago now. We've been married for 14, I think. Wow.

13, 14. having her in my life having a significant other having a soulmate has definitely reduced my anxiety levels I mean before I met Georgia I was in therapy I was finding stuff more difficult just having that other person

that you can rely on and feel seen by and feel supported by and know that you've got that no matter what has been transformative without a doubt. It doesn't mean that I don't still have more difficult moments. But if I can share that with her early enough, the act of sharing it always helps. And she's also very wise and she's very good at helping me through that sort of stuff.

Yeah, it happened last night I was having some anxiety. I go, I just remember I go, huh, in bed when my girlfriend's like, What? I go, I don't know. A little anxious. Why? Don't know. Okay. Um, well, what do you think it is? And I go, ah, I give too much. What do you mean? I don't know. I just, I don't take care of myself enough. I give people too much. I'm not going to call my mom for a week. What? What do you mean you're not going to call her. I just, you know, it's too much. I mean, I'm just trying to work it out and she's just listening and just having her there. Yeah. It's just, it almost makes me feel good like, hey, someone cares. Someone's there. It's going to be okay. It's everything. It's absolutely

everything. Yeah. Yeah. It is. It's important to have someone. Yeah. I love Broadchurch. Thank you. Me too. I really, really love it. Um, I got sucked into that show so fast. Um, you and Olivia Coleman, the whole cast are just so good. And it's so real. Like broad church, it almost sounds like it's going to be a broad comedy. You know, like it's. Yeah, sure. Sure. Yeah. I didn't know. I didn't know what to expect. And I was like, oh, look at the tagline of the log line. Oh, this looks, you know, you know, I like mysteries. I like David. I love Olivia Coleman. And I'm telling you, the first episode. Oh man, it's got heart. It's dramatic. It's funny. It's quirky. It's all these things. Did you have any idea that the show would be as big as it was? Not as big as it was. No. I knew that it was good. And I knew that Olivia was already attached when I came on board. So I thought we didn't know each other at the time. I thought, well, I want to work with her. I knew Chris Chibnell, who was the writer. I knew James Strong, who was the director. So I knew that the people involved. were quality and could be trusted and I knew that I wanted to know what happened next

but you never know that something will take off oh you know if a script is good that's about all you've got to go on isn't it at first and then but as we made it because we didn't know we got it script at a time

and we didn't know where it was going oh what? Yeah so we didn't know so every every time I was in an interrogation scene with a suspect I didn't know if they'd done it or not. So it was genuine. That seems so real too. Yeah. It was good. Your look on your face was like. Yeah. It was great. And as we made it, all anyone talked about as we went through production was, what do you think? Ah, but that happened

there and this person did that. And I think it could be this. And so the way that it kind of took fire amongst the cast and the crew, I suppose was a hint that it might do. the same for the audience. Yeah. But I still don't think any of us quite saw what was coming. I mean, it went bananas. It was in all the newspapers over here.

It was, who killed Danny was became, it was sort of banner headlines everywhere you looked. It really took off. People would be stopping you in the street and quizzing you. Yeah. Which was exciting.

It was great. Yeah. Well, there's so many shows. It's just like endless with these streamers. You don't never know what to watch. And, you know, I don't know how long it's been in the States, but it's been on Netflix. Is it Netflix?

No, well, that's the thing. It was on ITV here, which is like one of your old-fashioned networks. And it was released weekly. I mean, we are still talking quite a few years ago now, but it was sort of already that format was breaking down. Already people were expecting things to all drop at once and for you to be able to binge everything. And it was almost counterintuitive to put it out at a regular time. week by week with commercial breaks and all the things that felt like they were old-fashioned. But that became something that helped it to take off because people would talk about it the next day

and discuss it for a week and wait for the next episode. And it sort of recreated that thing that that appointment to view television in the UK, which people thought had died. It was almost like the last gasp of it, which became part of what I think allowed it to be a bit of a sensation at the time. You know, I think there's a beautiful thing in that, the old school where it's like, you know, the commercials and you have to wait and you have to, you know, that, there's, there was an excitement to it and you had to wait a week before it came out. Having to wait. Yeah, exactly. And now it's just like, well, I'm just going to watch 15 on Saturday, 15 episodes. Yeah, I'm going to stay up all night. By the time I watch the final episode, I'll be so tired. I won't be able to stay awake. But I'll have done it in one sitting. Was Olivia Coleman, did she blow you away? Did you just every day were in awe of her?

or did you, was she a joy to work with? Oh yeah, and she's, she's, she's, obviously she's brilliant. We, you know, she just, she just sort of behaves on screen. She just is, she just, it just kind of pours out of her. But what, more than that, we just really go on. We just had, I mean, I, we laughed all the time. She was just one of those people, you went, oh, I've made a friend. And it was just always a pleasure to go to work.

and hang out with her and to play these two characters that bounced off each other and that although they were they had quite an abrasive relationship which which we didn't but then we are that it was that was great fun to play so yeah it's just when you when you find yourself

I mean I admired her but we'd never met so to all that humanity that she brings to everything that she does that I think makes her such a compelling performer is in her she just she is a sort of wonderful warm lovely human and i think she has a way of channeling that through her acting which is why she is so beloved and wins all the prizes because she just she channels humanity but that's all in her that's who she is wow she's a real she's a

she's a keeper she's great yeah i was blown away by the crown i mean oh yeah just like yeah i i i couldn't believe how great she was. I just was, I was, I was in awe. Inside you is brought to you by Rocket Money. If you want to save money, then listen to me because I use this, Ryan uses as so many people use Rocket Money. It's a personal finance app that helps find and cancel your unwanted subscriptions. Crazy, right? How cool is that? Monitorers your spending and helps lower your bills so you can grow your savings. And you know what's great? It works. it really works ryan rocket money will even try to negotiate lowering your bills for you the app automatically scans your bills to find opportunities to save and then goes to work to get you better

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most actors are great i'd see i think it's always worth saying that because we do have a reputation as a profession of being self-involved and narcissistic and awful. Yes. Which are all true. Yeah, but 95% of those people might have a smattering of that but are actually

they're interesting people, they're fun people, they're creative people, they're, I enjoy being with actors and hanging out with actors. But every now and again you get, I mean the trouble is the industry indulges it because if somebody is worth something to a production, they are cosseted and protected. And that breeds

a behaviour that can be, oh, difficult to navigate. What have you done? I mean, you navigate it as best you can. I'm not very good with a bad atmosphere. I take it personally and I find it very hard to operate. Some people, it's like their engine, isn't it? They come on, they sort of piss everybody off. and that gives them, I don't know, like a little bit of catnip, but that gets them going. It's all about them, that's why. Yeah, yeah.

For me, it's the absolute opposite. If I feel I'm being accommodated, I want to flay my own skin off. So I find it very difficult to be around that kind of personality and that kind of energy. Because I don't understand it. I don't know how you go home at night and get into bed and go, yeah,

I made six people cry today. It was a good day. I just, oh, it makes me want to, I can't get behind it at all. I feel like I'm like you in the sense that I want to go and I want everyone to have a great time. Yeah. For the most part, I mean, there's serious scenes. There's times when you got to bear down, but also like, this is a family and you're going to be with me for a while. And let's try to enjoy it and make some good cinema here.

And we get to be doing a job that we would possibly do for free if we weren't getting paid for it. So what a privileged position to be in. And there's plenty of other people just waiting for you to fall over and take your job. So you've got to feel like it's a privilege to be there. Which doesn't mean, like you say, doesn't mean you don't take it seriously. It doesn't mean you don't work hard. Yeah, work hard. And there are moments where you will need certain things.

But, you know, you can ask for that without making somebody cry. Yeah. Or getting somebody fired or, oh, my. please stop yeah i mean there's not you don't hear a lot of that it's mostly a lot of good people but there are less less i think i think i think there is there is uh i think bad behavior is tolerated less even than when i started it's definitely less fashionable but there are still pockets of it i'm not going to name any names no i guess we can't can we is it all strange having a former doctor who actor peter davidson as your father-in-law is it weird at all

Was it weird in the beginning? It's certainly unlikely, isn't it? It's very unlikely. It's statistically impossible, I'd say. And yet here we are. And Georgia played his daughter. No, Georgia played my daughter. Your daughter, I mean.

Your daughter. Which is even weirder. That's what I'm getting at. But also his daughter. She is his daughter. But he is also, we played the same character, myself and my father. It's the same time lord. He just change his body.

So, yeah, we're all the same character, and she is the daughter of all of us. And she is his daughter and now also my wife. But then, you know, I'm a time lord, and I'm 900-something years old. So the age gap is not as awful as it might have been. Yeah. I mean, was it weird? It was unlikely. That's the word you're going to choose.

It was unlikely. I guess it's weird when you look at it objectively but obviously it developed slowly it crept up on me you know it's not like it's not like we met

and then I was marrying Peter Davison's daughter we met and I got to know Georgia who also happened to be Peter's daughter who was somebody I'd watched as a kid I mean I used to I someone we found once I used to draw like Doctor Who comic books and stuff

and there was one where I'd drawn Peter quite a good drawing actually and spell his name wrong along the bottom of it. So, yeah, that's all pretty weird, yes. That's all pretty unlikely. It's cool. It's cool, though.

And now it's evolved and it's normal now. Now it's very normal, yeah. But Doctor Who runs through our family. I look at you, like, you know, I don't know. Sometimes I'm like, I don't know if he's telling me the whole thing. It's just, I mean, I don't know what to tell it. It is absolutely preposterous. And yet here we are.

And it doesn't really make sense. You can't really think about it too much because it's so odd that there are two doctors and three time lords in this small family unit. I love it. When you came on the Doctor Who,

you were told to use an English accent instead of your normal Scottish accent, but then how did you feel when Peter was cast as the doctor with an English accent? I, it now looks a bit weird. It's true. I mean, it was 20 years ago.

And I, I, maybe there was just less, maybe you were seeing regional accents slightly less. I didn't really think about it. I was, I'd done another show for Russell T. Davis, which was a biography of Casanova. Peter O'Toole had played Casanova as an old man and it flashed back and I was the young version. So I was doing an English accent there

because I was playing the young Peter O'Toole and Russell had written that Casanova in quite a similar way to how he would ultimately write my version of the doctor so he kind of said that's why you know I saw Casanova sort of became my audition for Doctor Who unbeknownst to me

so he said what you're doing Casanova I want you to do that I want him to sound the same I want him to be the same so it was a sort of there wasn't any kind of political thinking behind removing moving a regional accent. It's just let's move that character across. It's sort of where we...

So I didn't think twice about it. I quite like doing an accent anyway. I quite like that sense of losing yourself. So I didn't resist it. Nowadays, I don't think we would even have had the conversation. I don't think we would even think about it. And Chutie, who's playing The Doctor Now, was brought up in Scotland and has a Scottish accent.

So I suspect there was no conversation about that It was just you use your voice Now is a bit weird that I didn't use my own voice But I guess it gives me a little bit It gives me a little separation Yeah, differentiate you right Yeah which I'm quite happy with I like an accent

I like Do you do a lot of different ones Can you do a lot of different Do you do impressions? Not that I'm doing on Not that I'm doing in public, no But you do impressions behind closed doors I mean, suggestions of people, sure.

I've got a couple of impressions that when I see you and we're not on tape, I'll give you a little, I've got a couple that I do. Really, are they kind of obscure? I bet you can do an Olivier. Oh, I could have I thought about it, probably. And everyone from Scotland does a Sean Connery. And probably a Michael, Michael, Michael Kane. Everybody does it Michael Kane.

Everyone does a Michael Cain, yeah, yeah. Certainly Londoners will give you a Michael Cain at the drop of a hat. Whereas I think Scottish people defer to Sean Connery. Because you just put in the speech impediment and it's sort of 90% there. Wow.

So everyone does, everyone from Scotland does a show. Can you do an American, like a Nicholson or, you know, do you do any American impressions? I don't know if I do. I mean, I've played American a couple of times, but I don't know that they are anyone specific that I'm aping. Do I do it?

I don't think I've got any American impressions. I can teach you some next time I see. I'll teach you a couple of good ones. I'd appreciate that. Who do you do? Who's your best one? I don't know, Ryan. What do you think?

Nicholson, Walkin, Malcovic. Oh, God. Oh, biggies. Dudley Moore. Well, he's English. Gary Oldman. I do a bunch. And I do the guy from Silence of the Lambs.

Anthony Hopkins? No, the one who's like, Oh, wait. Was she a great big fan person with the fucking lotion in the basket? Yeah, they do have. He's good. I like it. You played the serial killer Dennis Nelson.

Yeah. I mean, that's a dark character. Yeah. Yeah. Was that difficult for you to play? I mean, how do you find that darkness within you? I mean, are there any psychological effects of playing a character like that? Or are you method?

or how do you, how do you do that? I don't think I'm method. I mean, you'd have to ask Georgia. I think she was quite glad when it was over. Yeah. But it's not like I brought it home. I don't do that. I wasn't sort of trying to live like him or anything.

But you, I was very aware because his crimes were relatively recent history. And you're aware when you're doing something like that, that there are still people alive whose lives were affected. or ruined by this man. There are still people who he tried to kill and escaped who are still around. You know, this is not,

you had to treat it with a respect. I was very aware that on set when I was dressed up like this awful man, I couldn't be sort of, I'm usually quite a little bit quite light, hard, quite larky between takes.

Yeah. With something like Nilsson, you had to sort of, not do that. It just felt wrong. It felt like you were kind of carrying the weight of responsibility for some of the things that he did and that you had to, you know, you just had to sort of be aware of that, be a bit responsible for that. Be more alone. Be more alone, I guess, on set. I was very alone on set, yeah. See, that had to be difficult for you because, you know, I know you like to have fun and talk to people and this was something different. Yeah. Yes. But it was also something I, you know,

that was, I'd researched it a lot. I was very, I, I kind of knew what I was taking on and you wanted. And it was a, you know, it was a relatively short shoot. It was, I don't know, maybe eight weeks or something. So, you know, you can have thought, for this period of time, I'm going to treat this with some of the respect that I felt like his victims deserved. Yeah, that's got to be difficult. I mean, people always ask me, you know, because I played a villain,

this Lex Luther for so long, but it was the opposite for me. Because it wasn't real. But exactly, that's okay. And I did Kilgrave and Jessica Jones. And you can enjoy that because you're, it's the sort of, it's the, there's the kind of operatic villainy in that, which you can kind of lean into because it doesn't have real world consequences in quite the same way. I think that's okay. Because there's great fun to be had there, sure. Would you or Georgia go back to Dr. Hu again if they came to some, had something for you?

I think he would depend on what the circumstances were I went back a couple of years ago I did three in a row which was an absolute joy because it was returning for a short period of time

you did that with Lex Luthor right I went back for the final episode how did that feel it felt great it felt like I had some resolve some sort of like it was important it was important to the fans

and I wanted it to you know, book endings, you know. Yeah, of course. It was a good move. It felt good. It felt good to be back on set. I got emotional. In the world of multiverses and, you know, people go,

but it's not entirely impossible. You might not be called back again, right? Well, the series is over, but you never know. The creators and I have talked about some stuff that I can't talk about. But we'll see. Who knows? Drop those hints and send everybody wild. You just never know.

I mean, would I play Lex Luthor again if it was the right role? They asked me to come back for the multiverse and I, but there would be another person who played Lex and I was like, no, there's only one. Okay, so that was your red line. Yeah, I was like, no, I don't want to be. It's got to be just me when it's something. I don't want to happen. Okay.

But so, you know, maybe that was a little cocky. I didn't think it was coffee. I don't know. It's interesting. I did do an episode of Doctor Who with Matt Smith. And actually, it was great fun. We had a really good time. It was great.

Yeah, that was different. I just felt like it was, I think it was the story. There wasn't any story, really. It was just like, we want you to make an appearance and have a line or two. And I was just like, this doesn't make sense. I need to get, I need some weight to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?

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he's so needy honestly it's just it's a lot no it's been a it's been a delight really I mean

yeah we've ended up I mean he he doesn't live far away now we've ended up our lives have become intertwined

in a way that we would never have imagined he's great it's lovely you know it's a sort of middle-aged male friendship.

It's the sort of thing that's quite difficult to find. So I cherish it. I love that. Yeah, because I feel like you probably don't hang out with a lot of people because you have five kids, right? Yeah, well, that's exactly it. Yeah.

You don't have time to do that. You're working, you're doing this. So if you're going to hang out with somebody, you really got to like them. It's got to be easy. Exactly. Exactly. And if you can work with them, even better.

Yeah. That is the sweet spot, I think. What's a role somebody's played where you're like, I couldn't do that. that's they're obviously better than me that's that's i could never do that oh i mean there's lots isn't that when you admire something and you just go that's oh that's i suppose that's that's those are the most exciting performances to witness yeah the ones that you're gonna go i can't i guess it's like oh this sounds rather pretentious but it's like when you talk to magicians and

they kind of go oh yeah i know how they did that i know how they did that how did that how did he do that that bit where you kind of go i it's the bit where you can't see the join and you can't imagine how someone took themselves to that place and transformed themselves in that way or made those emotional connections. It's really exciting. I get really excited by really good acting. It makes me, I suppose, want to be better.

Yeah. I'm trying to think of specifics. Oh, my goodness. And so many, I guess. I don't think I could have done like Hannibal Lecter. That was just perfect. Right.

Anthony Hopkins is one Anthony Hopkins and remains of the day Oh man is one of those performances you kind of just it's it's immaculate It's beautiful

He does nothing And you understand Every single thought That flies through his head It's moments like that When someone just nailed something So beautifully It's it's invigorating

And and awe-inspiring Yeah I agree It's There are certainly Some roles where I go That was great but I could, I could probably do that.

I could have done that. Oh, yeah. Not, you know, not, but then there are roles that I'm like, like, no, that's, that's perfect. I could not do that. This is called shit talking with David Tennant. It's fast, quick rapid fire. These are from my top tiers, uh, Patreon.com slash inside of you. We got Taylor.

What is your inspiration? That's a, that's kind of vague, but what is your inspiration? Well, I think what we were just saying when you see, in terms of acting, it's when you see a of acting in you can't see the joins and you go oh my god i can only aspire yeah cicely what has been your most challenging role we talked about that but yeah did we get to the bottom of it no we didn't really no uh i don't think i answered i maybe it was hamlet just because it's big and it's got everything but it was also the most satisfying probably i think the two go hand in hand all right Raj, tell me about a time you felt betrayed by someone you trusted.

Oh, my. Raj, why did you get so dark? I mean, I betrayed. I mean, you know, you don't even have. I'm never going to admit to that. Yeah, well, I mean, because if you do, then they'll know who it was. Exactly. Yeah, I don't want to give them the pleasure.

Little Lisa, can you please share any fond memories working with the late great Elizabeth Sladen? Oh, well, I mean, you talked about moving from being a fan of Doctor Who to being in Doctor Who, one of the most extraordinary moments was being at a read-through. The first read-through I did, we did three episodes, a table read on the same day. And the final episode we read was the one that Elizabeth Sladen came back as Sarah Jane Smith. I mean, she was the Doctor Who companion when I was growing up. and when I was sat opposite a table

and she called me doctor she had a very distinctive way of saying it as well with a sort of catch in her in her voice sort of on an in breath she'd go doctor when she said that to me over a during my first table readers in Doctor Who

I mean everything my entire stomach turned to jelly it was just the most magnificent thing it was thrilling to work with her and she was everything you wanted her to be She was a proper... She was Sarah Jane Smith. She was...

My eight-year-old self did backflips that day. Wow. I could see how excited you were just talking about her. It was really... It was really cool to see. Yeah, she was good.

Jason W. You and Catherine Tate are wonderful together. What has been the most memorable part about working with her? Oh, my goodness. There are so many. So many. Catherine's one of those just...

She just makes me laugh all the time. um most memorable we did a play together we did much ado but nothing together and there was one night where it all just it didn't fall apart so much as it just kind of rolled and and and and there was a moment where she went off stage she came back on again she went off she came back on again and it she was riding the audience's laughter and to be part of that and because she's a comic genius you know and to be alongside that was but i just love working with that i just love hanging out with her. She's great.

That's awesome. N.G. Tracy. If you actually had a time machine, when, where would you go? I have two answers to this. One is the Cavern Club to see the Beatles performing like for the first time or very early in their career. And the other one is to go back to the Globe Theatre and see the first performance of Hamlet. I'm sort of fascinated by these things that have become cultural touchstones that have lived on way

past their moment to be there at the very start of them and to see if you if there's if what is that magic and is it visible there and then or did it grow over time what to be at the birth of those of those sort of moments great moments in art i'd be fascinated by that that's great i wonder what i would do well it wasn't my question well it's what you must have been asked that question before that's a it's a bit maybe it's a doctor who question maybe that it feels like that's a convention question i don't know why but i i i just would want to go back and hang out with my grandfather more that's that's kind of corny of course no come on but he was awesome just hanging out with him just again uh knowing that i

had to go back to the future after that you know just to go back and have you know one last chat with them that would have been cool leaving would be hard though Yeah, again, leaving again. Oh, yeah, that would be hard. You're right. I'll have to think of something else. Linda, and what's something you're really bad at? Come on, you've got to be bad at something.

Oh, I'm bad at a lot of things. My wife would say parking. I don't think that's true. I think that's unfair. Tennis, I'm really bad at tennis. Really? Yeah, I just can't, I can't get the, can't get the rhythm of it. Are you athletic?

In my head, I'm really good at it. And then I try and do it. And it turns out I'm not. Are you athletic? You play tennis? You play tennis. Yeah, I play tennis. I can, yeah, I can see you're a tennis.

I mean, I play a lot of sports and stuff. I mean, I wouldn't say I'm great at anything. I mean, I'm pretty good at tennis. I'm pretty good at hockey, but I'm not like great at anything. I'm not great in anything. You're definitely better at tennis than I am. Maybe. I'd love to see.

I'd love to see if you're actually that bad. Oh, no. I'm terrible. I can't get it back. I can't return. I can't do it. Can't do it. How many times have you played?

Not enough. Clearly. I mean, I've not really... Yeah. You got to give yourself a break. Okay. But I, you know, I've had a couple of lessons in the end with, with the tutor just kind of looking on and befuddlement. That's okay.

That's what they do. What is, what's next for you? Anything brewing? Any, any projects coming out? Is there anything I should know about? The podcast season three is coming out? I've done a bit in the Thursday Murder Club movie, which comes out in August. I think that's the next thing that will come out.

I've done a show called The Hack, which is about the phone hacking scandal that happened with News International and the news of the world, which was a big scandal in this country about the news group newspapers under Rupert Murdoch who hacked into lots of illegally accessed the voicemails of lots of people. and we've done a drama about that, which... Good role? Yeah, I believe Nick Davis, who's the investigative journalist who kind of uncovered it all. Yeah.

That's great. And the podcast, season three is coming out eventually. Season three is now out. It's now out. Yeah, so you can get... We've just done Stanley Tucci, Celia Emery, Ben Schwartz, Roseman Pike,

And then Georgia, for the big finale, Georgia interviewed me, which is the first time we'd done that. How's that? And that's just come out, yeah. Was that fun? It was quite emotional. She really got to me. Like, what was she asking you? What kind of questions?

Much better interviewer than I am. And she uncovered all sorts of things, yeah. She made you emotional? You did, yeah. She did. You cried on the podcast. Yeah. Well, what did she ask you?

She asked me about family and about, you know, about, uh, about my growing up and my parents and, oh, she pushed all that buttons. Oh, I should have pushed those buttons, David. I didn't push them. I let it go. I let it. I thought it'd be too personal and only George you could get it out of it. Only George is allowed. Only George is allowed. Uh, listen, this has been an absolute treat. I think you're a jam. You're a brilliant actor. You're a wonderful human being more importantly. And, uh, it means the world to me that you did this and you took the time. you're so kind it's been such a pleasure and i'm glad i'm just glad you asked i thought you were never going to ask i thought we kept meeting at conventions you kept never asking i'm thrilled we've finally done

i know this is and you'll send me all the audio because you have a clean audio from your booth and send it right through now yeah i've never asked this before but you could say this is david tenant and you're listening to inside of you with michael rosenbaum this is david tenant and you're listening to inside of you with michael rosenbaum i've never had someone do that yeah that's your That's it. That's it. It's now I'm going to get so many more people to listen. You're the best.

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