Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - DOLPH LUNDGREN: From Rocky IV to a Secret Cancer Battle No One Knew About
Episode Date: May 12, 2026Dolph Lundgren (Rocky IV, Expendables, Creed II, The Witcher) joins us this week for the most open conversation we have ever had. Dolph walks me through the kidney cancer diagnosis he kept secret for ...seven years, the misdiagnosis at a major LA hospital that nearly cost him his life, and the surreal moment he got the news in Sweden then drove the Gumball Rally at 150 miles an hour through Europe with his daughter sitting next to him. We also get into the suicidal stretch that followed treatment, the Stallone rift over a possible Drago movie, the new reality show with his daughters, and why he now calls the whole cancer experience a gift. Thank you to our sponsors: ❤️ This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/inside and get on your way to being your best self 🫶 FODZYME: https://icaneatagain.com/inside 💖 Join Our Community: https://patreon.com/insideofyou __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou 👕 Inside Of You Merch: https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🤣 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod 🌐 Website: https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I hope you're, you know, Dolf opened up a lot, you know.
Yeah.
It's no secret that he, uh,
with cancer and he's been dealing with it and he has gotten through it and um really happy to hear
his story it's it's quite compelling and it was nice to have him in the studio yeah he's a good dude
he's a big dude he is but he's so smart yeah not that big dudes can't be smart but he was cool
but i think you're going to really uh like this one it's um it's good it makes you think about your
life and you know be grateful for what you have and uh it's amazing how one day both
You go to the doctor and they're like, oh, this is what's going on.
And so it's all how you deal with it and keeping the faith and keeping the positivity.
Thanks again for listening to the show.
Let's get into it.
Let's get inside of Dolf Lundgren.
Where you get nervous for a role.
Oh, my God.
I get panicked.
Do you get anxiety?
Yeah, I live with anxiety.
What are you doing?
I'm just taking a live picture.
I always get nervous, but that's fun.
I look forward to it.
Let's get everything out of today we can.
And how much time do you have?
left and how are you going to use it well so come on now we would have to do another inside of
you but actually but that's kind of what you're doing michael i mean you're on this road this
journey of what's inside of you inside of you with michael rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a
live studio audience well it's good to see you too man it's been a while yeah you look you look great
i'm not just saying that you look great like are you working out constantly uh working out
uh yeah when i last year well when i saw you last you last
five years ago. So is this,
you start the interview? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. When I saw you
last five years ago, so it was
20, 21? Something like that.
Yeah, that's when I,
I just got into cancer diagnosis
2021. I got it 2020.
So if I saw you five years ago,
I was probably going through some kind of treatment
and obviously, you know, it does a number on you,
on your immune system, on your physique, everything.
So maybe that's,
what you're seeing. You always, like, you're one of those guys that don't like to show weakness
or don't like to show that you, yet you were going through this. Like, you're not someone who would
just automatically speak up about it. You'll hide it, right? Well, what do? They say,
never complain, never explain. When you have a company, I mean, when you go to therapy,
that's good, but sometimes it's good to just not talk about it too much. But, you know,
when I went through this cancer adventure, I mean, I didn't tell anybody for about seven years.
Jesus.
Because I got it.
No, well, my family, because I got diagnosis in 2015, and then I had a surgery, and then it got better,
and then it came back 2020.
So when it came back 2020, I was doing, I just started shooting this documentary or a Canadian
company about my life.
Yeah.
They're shooting and, you know, I was kind of losing weight and I didn't tell anybody and I was doing two movies in London and at some point the diagnosis wasn't looking too great.
And I decided, well, hell, I mean, I'll be around for this thing to see this thing finished.
So I better let him know.
And that was in 2021.
But then 2022, I switched doctors and realized I'd been misdiagnosed at the very big hospital here in L.A.
misdiagnosed and I found somebody else at UCLA who kind of saved my life. And yeah, so it's been
a hell of a hell of a journey. Yeah. I mean, is this something that what happens when you
get the call that you're like, hey, you have kidney cancer? I mean, my, my reaction would probably be
like numb. Yeah. Like numbing kind of feeling like had this to me. Yeah. Well, I got it. Actually,
I was in Sweden in 2015 first time. I had done.
some karate training and I started, you know, peeing blood, a little bit of blood. And I thought
I got hit in the kidneys because it happened to me before once, twice, taking a kick, you know.
But they, so I did an MRI and the guy in Sweden just said they found a tumor in your kidney
probably cancer. So the bad thing about that was the next day I was driving in this gumball
race, which is a race where you drive 3,000 miles in a week, starting in Europe this time.
And my daughter was next to me, and I drove through Norway and then down to Holland and
flew to San Francisco and then drove down to L.A. and then to Vegas all in a week. So in a Ferrari.
And so I didn't tell anybody, you know, because I'm not going to tell my daughter. I didn't
know what the details were. So I was sitting there, like you said, numb, driving.
at, you know, 150 miles an hour thinking, oh, shit, you know, this is, how long am I going to last?
Am I going to die and what's going to happen? It was surreal experience.
You couldn't articulate it to anybody. No. You just kept it inside. Yeah. And that's got to be
even harder, right? It is. It is. Yeah. And I've been through it now for five years.
After, well, it's five years ago I got the second diagnosis, which is in 2020.
And I've been, as I say, cancer free is the layman term.
It's called NED, no evidence of disease.
And that's been for three years now.
But I've done cancer survivorship therapy for a couple of years.
And what happens is, yeah, you're numb when you find out about it.
But then you end up in this kind of, in this kind of action.
mode like combat mode like if you were sent to Iraq you know I got a fight I'm ready to fight well
you say you get sent off you get shipped off right to war and you you sign you know you have to
sign your will and everything the army gives it to you and you're probably going through some
strange feelings because you're a young kid you're 20 years old right here I was signing my will
go to Afghanistan but then the shit hits defend and you're like running around getting shot at and
you're trying to save your buddies and you're firing and you don't think about it and but when you come
back, when these guys come back, that's when it hits them. And your body has this other reaction.
That's what's called PTSD, post-traumatic stress, meaning you've been in a life-threatening
situation for an extended period of time. Your body reacts in a certain way. And when the danger is
over, it comes out in strange ways. And like sometimes somebody will come back and his buddies
were killed and he survived and everybody's cheering and, you know,
family's there and what what does the guy do two weeks later you know puts a gun in his mouth right
and uh everybody's like why well it is pgstsd it's it's like a stress post-traumatic stress
depression so i went through that in 2020 23 were you emotional pretty emotional
and suicidal to some degree i mean it just kind of hits you like well if i survived cancer what if it
comes back, then I'm a double loser. So, you know, at some point also when you have it,
you think, well, do I want to weigh 40 pounds and lay there like a vegetable or should I just
end it before that if I know that's what's going to happen? So you go through those thoughts,
too. Sure. So it's kind of sobering experience. Let's put it that way. Jesus. Yeah. I have a buddy who
just was diagnosed with cancer and it's like stage four, like, oh yeah, the worst. And, uh,
he's the you know i got a little emotional talking to him yeah and he said uh yeah i've already
talked to someone i live where you know euthanasia is kind of uh yeah it's legal so i you know
i've already talked to someone about that i go you sound pretty like you're you can't be okay
you can't be okay like is there i guess there's a point where you think all right this is what it is
and with you it never was that it never got to that point never got there really i thought about it
I did look into it, like you said, like your buddy, I spoke to my brother, because I figured maybe at that point I'll be in bad shape.
So maybe I won't be able to organize everything myself.
So I need someone to help me.
So I thought my brother, I spoke to him.
He was cool with it.
And, you know, so there you go.
Are you afraid of dying?
Well, I think everybody's a little afraid of it because you don't know what it means.
But I think, I don't think I'm that afraid of it.
Like, because I already thought about it.
With a cancer, I already kind of made, you know, changed my state plan, made preparations.
I didn't tell anybody, but I did it sort of, you know.
You're preparing.
Preparing, yeah.
And I think it's, you know, if you lived a couple hundred years ago, you certainly, people
were ready to, they were prepared to die because you could die from a lot of things very
quickly.
And that's why people were very religious or spiritual.
And I think today people aren't as ready.
So it's a scary thing because most people haven't,
maybe you're not even seen a dead person ever.
Yeah.
I have.
I have once or twice, but not much.
Right.
No.
I mean, what would you say to somebody out there who's like dealing with all this?
Like, what could you say?
I mean, from someone who's lived it and has survived it and you're here right now.
Well, I would say that I was told by my doctor.
that your attitude has a lot to do with it because she is a female doctor at UCLA.
She says a lot of patients, you know, the ones that are fighters, they tend to do much better.
The ones who don't give up and stay positive.
I kept working, you know, I kept working out.
I kept, you know, you had energy.
Yeah, I had energy.
I was lucky.
I didn't do really serious hardcore chemo.
I just took some oral drugs.
But I did immunotherapy for a while where I lost weight and, you know, had stories of my mouth and my feet.
I couldn't eat hot food or cold food.
Miserable.
Yeah, it was miserable.
That's fucking miserable.
It sucked, man.
Yeah.
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all this. You think, uh, you know, I've made money through the years. I've had a great career. I've
done so many things. Yeah. You know, maybe I'm good at, what are you? 65? Yeah. Around there.
Yeah. But somebody would say, hey, I've done enough. But you, I'm about to tell you all the things that you
know that you're doing. Yeah. And it's like shocking. Well, I mean, I think, you know, I just like to work
and I like to be busy and get something out of this life. I, I remember when I was a kid, I always thought,
I always had a feeling life was quite short and I wanted to get the most out of it. I always thought
about that when I was in Sweden. It's a young, young boy. I was had a feeling that life isn't that
long and for some reason and I wanted to squeeze the most out of it and I I thought by going to
America I could have a bigger opportunity to you know to do more exciting things and that's what I did
why do you think it takes I'm 50 I'll be 54 yeah whatever oh you're young how the hell
you know what's funny is you always think you're old and then you go then you you think you're 40
and then you're like I'm old and then when you're 50 you're like why did I think that at 40
I know. I wish I was 40 again.
Yeah.
But it goes, the cliche is like, it just goes by so fast.
And you don't realize that to you are getting older.
That's true.
To you're in your 50s, really.
50s, that's when I start, you know, going, holy shit, man, I might have 24, 24, 25 more
Christmases.
Well, then also, we started looking at old photos and you realize, fuck, I look good,
but, you know, 10 years ago.
And I look so young, you know, and I think, yeah, I think it is,
it's a shifting target, right?
The moving target, right, rather.
Yeah.
Because I remember speaking to somebody,
it was my lawyer in Sweden, actually,
and he said something.
I remember when he told me, like,
he's like 15 years older than me.
I remember he told me when I turned 70, he said,
I went from, in my mind, I went from 60-something to 80s,
he said overnight.
So it's like, fuck, you know.
Sorry.
It's like, because then the next big number is 80 and that's 80 is like really old.
Yeah.
Well.
But I mean, things are changing too.
I mean, I got friends like Arnold, Schwarzenegger and Stallone, when they're very youthful.
And, you know, they're working out.
They're, you know, working.
They're, you know, very sharp.
So, you know, it depends.
What do you think of all these peptides?
I started taking peptides.
I, you mean, BPR 57, 157, BCP 57, 57, NADs.
I yeah and indeed I don't take those because if you have had cancer they they can make things grow more
they can make you know and not just cells in your body multiply but even cancer cells too that's what
I was told so I didn't take them I was I was I was kind of I was itching to do it because I did
testosterone therapy I did HGH all that before I get the diagnosis but you know after that I've
stop at all the last time. What do you take now? I don't take anything. I take protein. I take vitamins.
How do you have the energy? How do you have like, do all this shit, man? I don't know. No, it's my
young wife. My jeans. And your young wife. Yeah, maybe the fact that I, you know, I, you know what I do is I, I prioritize,
rest and exercise. I used to train a lot, but I used to go out parting all night. I would not get enough sleep,
traveled too much, work too much, just burn the candle, you know, like a nutcase from both ends,
like shut out of a cannon from Sweden. And I never fucking stopped. And I was just like,
now I'm like, I sleep nine hours a night at least between eight and 10 hours. If I can,
I rest up. I don't push it. I don't work out too much. I just do 30-minute workouts,
45 minutes sometimes. So everything's sort of, uh, not limited, but like, hey,
you do enough.
Yeah.
You do enough to keep in shape.
Yeah.
Moderation.
Yeah.
I drink, yeah, I go to have a couple of drinks a week, you know, a couple, you know,
like kind of like a little bit like the way you used to be, I think, where people used
to do things more in moderation, like a little bit of red meat, a little bit of this, a little bit
of that, not a little dessert, nothing crazy.
Nothing like you were doing.
Crazy diets.
I was in a diet for 35 years, you know.
I ate tuna for like three.
15 years, tuna salad every
lunch for 15 years.
But, you know, I'm tired of that.
I'm tired of tuna.
I make a hell of a good tuna salad.
You do?
You got to send me how you do it.
Yeah, okay.
No, because I love tuna.
No, I like.
I'll tell you.
All right.
Rocky 4th anniversary,
I'm like, holy shit, is it really 40 years?
Yeah.
That's what I thought too.
But yeah, time flies.
1985, November 21st,
1985 was the premiere westwood yeah that was and i walked into the theater i was grace jones's toy boy
and people took pictures of me and then 90 minutes 93 minutes later i came out and people are taking
pictures of me instead of her and it was like what the hell happened your life completely changed
yeah i remember the lights coming up in the theater and everybody was looking at me because if you
think about it rocky bubble uh you know adrian
And, you know, everybody, Apollo Creed, they were all known characters,
but suddenly here's this Ivan Drago guy sitting there.
And people are like, holy shit, there he is, you know, sort of like in the flesh.
So it was, it took me five years to, I think, to recover from that.
Do you think you were, if you look back, like, would you go?
Yeah, I was pretty, I was cocky.
I was cocky.
I was really confident.
No, I don't think I was cock and confident.
And I think I was in shock, I would say.
I was very committed to that role.
I spent a lifetime working on it.
I spent six months training for the addition.
And then I spent another six months.
So I was on it for about a year.
You know, Stanislavs, it says it takes nine months to develop a baby, nine months to create a character.
Well, I was on it, added for about 12 months or more before we went on camera.
And I don't think I was cocky.
I was just innocent.
and like, eager, innocent, and kind of taken advantage of, I would say, by, but I mean, it was a great opportunity,
but a lot of people took advantage of me after that in business and, you know, other ways.
Because you didn't know how it's supposed to go, so you assume this is right.
Yeah, people would give me good advice, I thought, and there wasn't such good advice, but, you know,
I got through it, but it was a tough period.
Of course, me and Grace broke up.
That, you know, was sad because I really loved her, but it just wasn't going to work out.
She met some Swedish chemical engineer in Australia.
Wait a minute.
Aren't you into the same?
That's what you did.
Yeah, she met me in Australia.
And, you know, and she, you know, I was a karate champion.
And suddenly I decided to do some modeling, to get a green card.
I mean, to get a visa in New York.
And then I started to do some acting.
and then I'm in this, you know, I get to land this big role.
And suddenly, you know, my movie is bigger than any of her movies.
Right.
And suddenly it's like the tables have turned.
And it was like a star is born, one of the, that movie, you know.
But the reverse, you know.
The reverse.
Yeah.
What is, what is coming out?
Is there going to be a 40th anniversary, Blu-ray?
Is there what we look for?
I don't know.
You don't know.
I don't know.
I know there was, yeah, there was a direct-est cut.
They're Stallone dead.
Yeah.
There's a documentary on that, right?
Yeah, he did it during COVID.
He had nothing to do.
I got re-cut the picture, you know.
How often do you talk to him?
I talk to him quite a bit.
Yeah, like...
Just checking in, how are you doing?
Yeah, are you doing dope?
No, he did call me when the cancer,
when I did an interview with Graham Bensinger about it,
and in 23, and then, you know, a day later,
So when it came out, I was in Beverly Hills in the store and he called me up and he was really emotional.
I was like, oh, I heard about you this.
And I come over.
I got to see you, you know, come to Florida.
And anyway, it was really nice.
It was unexpected.
It was like when I hadn't seen the sight of him, you know.
Yeah.
Super.
He cares.
He's a good friend.
He cared.
Yeah.
It was really interesting.
You really see who your friends are when shit hits the fan, right?
Yeah, for sure.
Who loves you?
You ever save anything from Rocky for?
Anything.
Your shorts.
No, I don't have.
You know what?
I had all that stuff.
And my manager who had then fired who actually turned out to be a bit of a crook, he, he didn't pay the storage fee for that storage unit.
Come on.
And all of it, the gloves, the trunks, all that shit was sold off.
But anyway.
You let it go, fine.
Let it go.
Yeah.
This is just material.
And this thing, man.
Oh, yeah.
Hard cut vodka.
Yes.
Tell me about this.
Well, that's my newest kind of, you know, a project.
I'm an entrepreneur now.
I'm a CEO of a vodka company and, you know, something I came, me, my wife.
Emma?
We founded that.
And we tried 30, 40, 40 vodka across the world.
Oh, you tested tons of vodka.
Tested all of them, yeah.
That's a lot of vodka.
A lot of drinking.
But it was good.
It was when I was first dating her in 2020.
And we decided, we found one, actually, in the Rocky Mountains,
which is like snow melt water and Rocky Mountain Potatoes makes a great vodka.
The best vodka, if you try it, you'll see.
I will try it.
I mean, and who came up with the name?
It was me, actually.
It was an editing term, you know, like jump cut, hard cut.
A hard cut.
Hard cut from L.A. to Idaho.
And when did this come out?
He came out nine months.
ago in California and we're in Bevmon total and some on-premise we're at Mr. Chow's
Chippriani, Tao, Beverly Wiltshire Hotel. You know, we're in some pretty good establishments.
I have a feeling you went into those places because you knew them. Yes, of course. And you're like,
come on. Yeah, come on, guys. And they grab somebody. And they've done, you just grab somebody.
How fun is that to have your own vodka? It's a lot of fun when you go out and sign bottles and meet fans and
have drinks and it, but it does take a lot of work because it's, you know, you're an entrepreneur.
I mean, I'm involved in all parts of it, the fundraising, the financial modeling, the
launch, marketing, the launch, the budgeting, hiring people, firing people. I mean, a lot of
people who started with us took a lot of, they discharged a lot and didn't do a good job and I had
to fire them and, you know, it wasn't very pleasant, but. It's nothing's easy as it. No.
Nothing, you think, yeah, I'll make my own vodka.
This will be easy.
We'll taste it.
Then they'll just make it.
Yeah, it's nothing like that.
No, it's complicated.
And it's just selling alcohol, you know, in America.
Or anywhere in the world is complicated, especially here because you have, you know,
50 states, all states have different rules.
And, you know, you got a lot of, there are three-tier systems.
And sorry, good friend, Al Capone kind of took advantage of the prohibition.
So they, you know, they're, you know, the, you know, the, in, the, the, the,
install this three tier system where nobody can own, you can't be a producer or a,
or a distributor or a retailer.
I mean, in the old days, you could do all three, but you can't do that now.
So that means you have to have contracts with a bunch of people and everybody's taking
a margin and everything.
Yeah.
Negotiate that.
Where can they get this other than the places you say, if they go online?
You can go online, hardcut vodka.com.
We have a new website that's coming up pretty soon.
It's available now.
you can go to Babmo Total.
You can go to...
What if you wanted signed?
If you want it signed, you can come to Total Wine in Culver City tomorrow at 2 p.m.
Well, this won't...
This will air...
Okay.
But do you do other signings?
I do signings quite a bit.
Yeah.
Okay, so you'll tell me when it comes out and we'll promote that.
Yeah, or check out the Instagram, Hardcut vodka.
Yeah.
And you check out that.
And what's your Instagram handle?
Mine is Dolph Lunger.
Just Dolf Lunger.
Yeah, I think so, yeah.
You got a lot of followers.
I got a few.
Yeah.
It's nice.
Loyal.
Loyal folks.
Pretty loyal, I think.
And, yeah.
Do you ever get people at conventions?
Because I know we've met at a convention or two signing autographs and everything.
You ever get people who are emotional?
Oh, quite a bit.
Yeah.
I mean, that's kind of the good part of it that you realize, you know, when I was a kid, I made these movies,
thought it was fun.
Didn't realize that people went to seat with their dad and the dad passed away.
and this is their memory now.
Yeah.
You know, my father and me.
And, you know, that's kind of, it's very nice to hear that when you go, when you're at these
conventions.
And you realized that it was really that, that was really the purpose is to, like, kind of entertain
people and make them feel good, right?
Yeah.
It's so crazy when that happens because you're like, I just made a TV show or a movie.
Yeah.
You know, how would this affect?
And then it's just, you're like a bonding between a parent or sibling and just watching it and just,
memories and nostalgia and that that's it's pretty cool when that happens i think it's cool yeah it's very
cool you realize the power of uh of the medium you know it's a powerful medium i mean regular
folks they go to work they do this some of them nine to five jobs maybe they don't like too much
it's you know they're always financially that's always struggle right and then they get to go
to a movie and here's a disappear big screen and here's some cool adventure
And yeah, yeah, it's nice to be part of it.
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Dauph, Unbreakable.
Oh, yeah.
There's a documentary, the one I mentioned about my life.
Yeah.
It's coming out later this year.
And we had to re, I kind of got involved as a producer later on because you
have to restructure it.
You have to hire another editor than another third editor.
Jesus.
Because you have to restructure the whole thing.
And I wanted to, I realized that the cancer.
is more important.
And it's kind of,
it was supposed to be like a regular, quote-unquote,
you know,
life story.
Life story is born in Sweden,
this happened,
blah, blah, blah.
Now he's doing this and that.
But it turned out to be more like a tagline
or a storyline was,
Action Star gets diagnosed with cancer
and looks back at his life.
That's much more interesting.
I think so.
And just a celebrity freaking documentary.
I'd still watch it.
Yeah.
But, I mean, that's, did you, when you say you went back in there with this documentary,
and it's going to be on VOD everywhere, right?
Yeah.
When you decided you need more of the cancer stuff, you need people to see what you went
through.
Did you document that while you were going through it at all?
We did, yes, because we had started a documentary earlier.
So Emma was shooting stuff on her phone because a lot of that happened during COVID.
So right at the end of COVID.
So you couldn't have a crew.
around, you know. Right. So we shot some on iPhone. Some of this is documented and some of it was
interviews. But some of the interviews were done after, after I told them that I had been diagnosed.
Some of them were done while I was sort of losing some weight and all that. So you can kind of
see it. Yeah, but it was an interesting process. It was just a lot of, you know, there's so many
moving parts in the dock because you've got the interviews and you have all the file footage,
you have all the, all the, uh, movie footage and they have interviews of all the other people.
Never easy.
Stallone and Arnold and these guys, you know.
Oh, so they're all in it.
They're all like Van Dam.
I mean, they're pretty, a lot of them are in it.
Yeah.
All those guys are in it.
And, but when they did their interview, they didn't know about the cancer.
So they're kind of more talking about the, you know, the, the actor or the person.
Right.
And then the other, there's like kind of a, there's like a sort of a frame, frame around that story, which kind of deals with the cancer diagnosis.
Right.
But you didn't think of that, like interviewing them again.
You're like, no, I didn't think so.
I was too complicated anyway because, you know, we hired a new, one, a new editor and, you know, that didn't work out.
So we hired another guy and he, he nailed it at the end.
So I'm pretty happy with it.
I think it's good.
It's emotional?
Emotional, I would say.
Did you get emotional?
Oh, yeah.
I get emotional speaking about it.
But also, I get emotional watching it, you know, because it's almost like it's like.
Reliving it.
Yeah, reliving it on one level and another level, it's like it wasn't me.
It's a little bit like when you look at your life.
And it's like you're watching another person, right?
Yeah.
You know, like Sinatra sings to think.
think I did all that.
And it's interesting.
My way, yeah.
Right when you said that, it kind of made me feel a little bit like my hairs on my arms.
Yeah.
But you're right.
You can think, you know, I did all that.
Yeah.
It's nice to be able to think that.
I've thought about it the other day, actually.
And I thought, well, I'm lucky I could think like that.
I can be a little bit in wonderment of what happened in my life.
Why not?
That's what life's supposed to be.
You're grateful.
Yeah, grateful for having had it.
So, I mean, 19-year-old kids get, you know, get drafted and it's over.
Boom.
Yeah.
Over in a second.
And they didn't have anything.
Yeah.
It's amazing when you start, when you think of that perspective, you take that perspective
on life.
Yeah.
It's like you're worrying about certain things in life and adversity and all these things.
And then you hear stories about kids who had this and didn't even see their
10th birthday. I know. And you're like, what the hell I'm complaining about? I know, but like,
but then you end up doing it anyway. But you're human. I do the same. Yeah. I fall back into it and you
become, you know, you start complaining and you only see, you know, the negative sides of it. But,
you know, I think it's important once in a while to, to reset and kind of see the bigger picture,
you know. Yeah. And you have an upcoming autobiography? Yes. See, you don't fucking stop. I know. This is what
I'm trying to tell you. It's like, you know, you're busier than you were before. I know,
I mean, it's too much. Does Emma tell you this? Yeah, she does. She's, you know, I got to clean up my life.
I got to get rid of this doc and the autobiography, because that's another thing. That's the same thing.
That was worked on as well, started before the cancer, because people, before people knew about it.
So, you know, there's a manuscript and then suddenly I'm realizing, wait a second, now I got to restructure this.
So I'm actually going through that manuscript myself now trying to work on it as well.
And it's interesting because, you know, the written word is more detailed in one way.
It's, it's, it's, you can put more nuance in it because it's more, you know, descriptive.
Descriptive.
And also more exact.
So it has to be exact.
Like if you put something down, you know, whatever happened at a certain time, you know, you have to check on all the facts.
and also, you know, I think you can be a little more descriptive.
I think it's dealing, I would say it deals a little more with the other side of fame,
I think, and how it feels and how it can complicate your life.
Yeah, and it's also getting personal, like getting sometimes going,
this is embarrassing, or I feel too vulnerable.
Yeah.
Or I feel too full of myself here.
This is too full of shit.
I got to make it sound more self-deprecating.
Did you go through a lot of that?
Yeah, to some degree.
I also, you know, I want one problem I have to deal with is also that it's my,
it's got to be my story, my language, my words, but there's another, we hired somebody to do the ghostwriting because, you know, I don't want to sit there right.
Right.
Every page, 150 pages of myself.
So, you know, then you have to convert their way of speaking to your own.
So I have to rewrite certain.
sentences. Almost every other sentence has to be rewritten. Why did it take so long before you become
a U.S. citizen? Yeah, good point. 2004. You think right after you did Rocky 4, you're citizen.
I agree. Look, I would come into America, you know, many years. I lived in Europe for many years.
I was married, lived in Europe. Actually, what happened was, I had a year as green card back in the 90s.
and then I married a Swedish girl.
She hated L.A.
Didn't like L.A.
So we moved to New York.
And then she wanted to move back to Europe
because, you know, we had a daughter
and she wanted a daughter to grow up in Europe.
And I agreed.
It wasn't, you know, not the greatest thing for my career,
but I did it.
We moved to Spain.
So I gave up the green card.
And I was in Spain for 20 years on and off.
But I would go back to America.
And every time I would, you know, pass the border,
the immigration officer wouldn't go,
what you know to you a citizen yeah what's going on and I wouldn't be like I'm sorry sorry sir
but um and one of them actually it was funny one of them when you stamped my passport I saw the back
of his stamp was like an ievondrago picture or something you didn't know I was coming but anyway
so I finally decided that I wanted to do it and Emma and I did it together finally in 2024
there was so great feeling really and I you know I have this country to thank for
most things that happened to me after me, well, since I grew up, right?
Since I was a teenager.
So, you know, why not?
It felt really great.
How often do you go to Sweden?
I go once or twice year to see my siblings.
We're going next week because I have a reality show that they shot, sorry about this,
they shot about my two daughters.
There was there, they had, they made a deal.
And then I got pulled into it as a sort of.
of like, you know, extra.
And it's launching in a couple of weeks.
What's it called?
It's called Dolph and the Lundgrens.
Wow.
Like one of those old, you know, bands.
And they're in Sweden?
And the Pacemakers.
Oh, yeah, Jerry and the Pacemakers.
Remember that song?
Jerry and the Pagemakers.
What's the big hit?
So, fairy, cross the mercy.
Oh, yeah.
Remember that?
That was a great song.
Oh, yeah.
Jerry and the Pacemakers.
Dolph and the Lundgrens.
Dolph and the Lundgrens.
Who's the funny one?
Funny one.
I guess it's maybe me.
Sorry.
The girls aren't that funny?
They're sort of funny, but it's sort of about, actually,
it's about my youngest daughter, who is,
her name is Greta,
and she grew up pretty much in Spain
after I got divorced from my wife, moved back here.
In 2011, I moved back here.
Did the Expanables movies and all of that.
And, you know, we haven't really spent much time together.
So we had this big gap to sort of try to bridge.
And we had a lot of fights and, you know, what you call it, father, daughter, therapy,
but went through the whole thing, you know, when she was younger to try to figure it out,
to repair it.
But it was just lately when she moved back 2025, she moved back to early last year.
She moved back to L.A.
and they shot to stay with her sister and be close to me.
And that's what the story is about.
Her are moving back to see her dad.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah.
Does it make you a little emotional at all?
Yeah.
I could see it.
Yeah, I think so.
See, it's nice.
Yeah, I think it's, yeah, it was a cute story.
It's an emotional series, actually, not just me, but, you know, people I see it because
it's very kind of very human, you know, current.
A common problem.
Common problem.
Common problem.
That everybody, believe me, I know.
Relatable.
Yeah, you lost contact with your kid.
And it's not a lot of fun, but, you know.
It's heartbreaking, but if you're able to reunite, that's such a profound moment in your life.
Yeah, and that's kind of what it's about.
So I like it.
It's very cool.
But it has some humor, and it's about my career.
The cancer is part of it.
The vodka is part of it.
But the basic storyline is that.
And I like that because I told them, you know,
I wanted to be more cinematic.
And they agreed, you know,
it was a great idea that they came up with.
How old are they?
My daughter is 25.
And the other one is 29.
So...
Are they married?
No.
The one that's 29 has now since met this guy who lives in Athens,
a Greek guy who's in shipping.
And she now moved to Athens.
Eda, the oldest one, moved to Athens.
So I think if there's a second season, they'll probably shoot.
Greta is now here.
She actually works doing social media for the vodka company.
Oh, nice.
She's very smart.
And we're probably going to shoot part here and part, maybe some of it in Athens, too.
Is it tough to meet you if you're dating one of your daughters?
Possibly, I could see that for, for, for,
Are you smiling and happy and are you kind of...
No, no, I'm...
You're going to Stallone.
What do you want my daughter?
Yeah, what are you doing?
What are your intentions?
No.
How old are you?
What do you do for a living?
What do you do?
No.
No, I'm a good, I'm a good dad and I respect because I, I know that they were, they were, they,
went through some, you know, hardships when I divorced my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my
had this other girlfriend and they had to introduce them to her. And they were very, very supportive of those
relationships. And even with Emma. So I always said to myself, I'm not going to get involved in their
choice of partners unless somebody is abusive or anything. I let them go through, make their own
mistakes, you know? Yeah. So I never really gave any, yeah, I never really said yes or no to
anybody. But, you know, they, Ida especially had a couple of really some real losers, you know,
that she went out with. And she admits that. Yeah, she admits it. And hindsight's 2020.
Yeah. Yeah. We've all done it. Yeah.
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Is there a truth to a Drago rumor?
Which one?
Oh, Drago movie.
Yeah.
There was a script at the MGM that they were developing that was that needed some work.
And then I think what happened was the Michael B.
Jordan, you know, he was a great actor, good guy, you know, he did Creed 3, which I was in
Creed, too. He did it, Creed 3. Right. And that I did very well. So then the kind of the Rocky
universe was more kind of tilting towards the Creed universe. So now it's, which is interesting. So now
Apollo Creed's son is now kind of the leader of that whole franchise. And I think the Rocky
Drago story is sort of sidelined. And I don't think it'll be a Dragomel.
But, you know, if there is, it'd be fun, but maybe not in my lifetime.
I would see.
Do you have any memorabilia at your house?
Like any statues of Drago?
Or, like, because, you know, you go to Stallone's house.
You're going to see a statue in this living room.
Yeah, a few, two of them.
No, I got a, no, I have a few little things, you know, minor things.
Actually, one thing I got, which is kind of fun, is I ran into Sly.
in probably about 15 years ago.
And, you know, I hadn't seen it for many years.
Before Rocky, before the expandables.
And I, you know, we had a few shots of, I think it was vodka or tequila.
It may have been not hard cut, but.
Not hard cut, something else.
So it wasn't as good.
But anyway, we had it.
And then I was directing a movie, actually, here.
And we were doing some chopper, some aerial shots.
And I was out all day.
And I was staying at the Beverly Wiltshire.
And I came back.
And I saw some.
My room was dark, you know, I was like, what the fuck?
There was some, there's some big package there, like about eight feet tall standing up against the wall.
I was like, what is this?
It was wrapped.
And I looked at it.
It was a huge Rocky Four poster from Africa painted on canvas.
Canvas, some kind of canvas.
But like by a really cool artist, like a real art piece that he bought at an auction, like in the 80s and he gave it to me, you know.
And so it's really cool because it kind of feels.
features Drago.
You got to send me a picture that.
Yeah, it's a good one.
That's pretty dope.
Yeah, pretty dope. And it's from an artist who came from a passionate place.
Back in some African state where I'm sure back in 1985, it was rough.
Yeah.
Some kid who did it.
Anyway, that's one thing I have.
I don't get a few other from other movies, but I don't really, I don't remember a big person.
I don't like memorabilia too much.
No.
I have some things like that.
You ever get anyone's autograph?
Yeah, I got some, like I think for one of the movies I did, I got them on a post show.
I think it was Aquaman or was it agreed to.
I got it because I wanted to everybody's autographs so I could use it for a charity.
Oh, right, right, right.
But otherwise, I'm not into.
Like me.
Yeah, I'm not into memorabilia.
I don't know why.
It just never was from the beginning.
I mean, you have a lot of good stuff here.
I could have so much.
Stallone has a lot of stuff at home.
I mean, you think un expendables having all of them sign a poster that you're all together.
Yeah.
You probably still get it.
That's like, oh, look, I'll hook it up.
I'll hook it up.
You got movies coming out, too?
Let's see.
Hellfire?
Yeah, Hellfire.
It's one movie.
I actually got two kind of cameo experiences and two big movies, but I can't talk about.
One comes out in the summer.
One comes out in a few months.
And I'm also developing two movies features that I'm trying to produce,
both with Emma, actually.
One is an action comedy.
Kind of like get shorties,
but the criminal underworld and Hollywood.
You know,
it's a nice mix.
Yeah.
I want to do something with you.
Yeah, yeah, it'd be great.
That'd be awesome.
You're kidding me?
That's a cool one.
I mean, like with all this stuff you're doing right now and, you know,
you know you beat the cancer yeah you got the vodka you got the documentary coming out the autobiography
with harper collins right yeah doing it yeah the movies coming out the show with your daughters
all this shit not not shit but all this stuff yeah i mean where do you see yourself five 10 years from
now do you want do you think you'll ever retire or you love it too much i think i love it too much
to retire i mean i hope one day maybe the vodka company will
run itself a little more. I can hire more people and I wouldn't have to sit there,
you know, six hours a day on the computer. But I think I would like to do is to keep doing
movies, being creative. I think it keeps you young, keep working out. But I mean, I think maybe
10 years from now I would like to slow down. But I, I can look at my, you know, my compatriots
in the business and Sly and Arnold, who I'm close to both of them.
and other friends I have.
And I think what's great about our times is like you can be 70 years old and you can be
very active.
You know, you don't have to like retire.
Like in the old days where you're 65, it's game over.
You're dead probably.
Sitting there with a freaking, you know, blanket over you, the knees and drinking tea somewhere.
Someone's speaking for you.
Yeah.
He's good.
Right?
You're good?
Yeah.
And those days are over, man.
Yeah.
No, it's awesome.
People do their best work.
sometimes in the 70s.
I mean, I look at like Morgan Freeman.
I guess nobody knew who the hell he was until he was 55 and did that.
Isn't that crazy?
And did, you know, driving mistakes.
I'd like to be in your movie.
Could you put me in your new movie that you're producing with Emma?
We'll call it Shawshank Lundgren.
That's good.
No, I mean, there are, I think, you know, I feel like I feel like I'm going to keep it up for a while.
But, you know, Emma wants me to slow down a little bit, so maybe I will.
What's a role you would return to?
Return to.
I don't have anything really.
I've done Dragago twice.
I mean, Gunner Jensen is fun if it had a better script.
The fourth one was really bad.
I like how honest is a fucking desist.
Is that what he said?
It's a fucking disaster.
Fucking desist.
Yeah.
So.
hear it i could hear it yeah so uh yeah that'd be fun i mean otherwise um you know there was a movie i did
way back called um which a lot of fans like called uh i come in peace which is like an old action
small action movie but it was it was kind of a cool storyline that one could be fun to do again
you ever get nervous when you're acting like the first take or uh night before yeah i get a little bit
uh you know you get a little little bit
the jitters a little bit.
Like, I like that, though.
It's like, you know, when you're fighting, when you're, you know, you prepare.
I mean, it's all about preparations.
You can forget the preparation, right?
And then if you're really prepared, you're, I think if you're really prepared,
you're excited to get it done.
Get this fricking thing.
I want to get the scene done now.
It's already in my head.
Let's do it, man.
Yeah, let's do it.
I mean, if you're not prepared, then you get nervous because then you're like,
oh, shit, you know.
I mean, especially if you're, you're, you know, I mean, especially if you're,
doing a big movie and that crane is coming in and stops like 10 inches from your face and you know
that's like an 80 foot screen and now you better you know deliver don't fuck it up don't fuck it up
do you ever think that i've had that on like take ones where that fucking thing's coming right to my
face and i'm thinking to the line a hundred times and then by the take you realize they're going to do
it over and over and then all of a sudden it just then it becomes more natural but it's like and
okay it hit i should say my line now here it is yeah you know that's true too yeah and i saw i listened
to some an actor who said which is kind of interesting that he first he's really prepared and he
first take he just fucking goes for it like over like over the top and he can see he can hear the whole
he can see the crew just going what the hell was that and then he says then i'm good then in the
second take, I can just like, land.
It's better to be bigger and bring it down.
Yeah.
To be like, no, we need more.
We need more from you.
Yeah.
If you get, if you get, if you, if you stiffen up, right?
It's like, you know, it's like, and, it's like when you're fighting.
Like, if you stiff, if you stiffen up, it's no good.
Too too tense.
Yeah.
If you get too tense, it's better to get hit once in the beginning.
And then you kind of relax and then you just snap out of it.
Snap out of it.
And you start, you're getting, you're, you're.
I start just reacting instead of, you know, trying to act, you react.
Yeah.
You know?
Spechen zietz of German.
A bitchen.
Bichenschen?
I have him schule instituted.
Oh.
Bissechen, beseen.
I know a lot of bad words.
Oh, yeah?
Like, I've in the hosengue made.
Would you have a German girlfriend or something?
I had a girlfriend.
Her name was Miriam Finkelzella from Munchen.
Oh, really?
She lived on Prince Regenstrasse and Trougesstrasse
and they had the freedom's angle.
Oh, really?
Yeah, she was awesome.
But I had a driver for this thing
that I was doing this movie.
And every morning I'd say, how do I say this?
Michael, what, you want to say these bad words?
No one wants to hear this stuff.
And I'm like, come on, just tell me how to say it, you know.
He said, okay, I know, I like this, I love this,
you, chasten, I spend mud, a, karpf, schmerz.
And, you know, I know some.
Oh, yeah, you know some.
But you know a lot of German, you know a lot of Spanish.
a little Spanish.
Necessary a collegio.
No, I speak a little bit.
But you know a little, a little of a lot.
A little bit, right.
A little bit, yeah.
Who do you think the best boxer ever, in your opinion?
Best boxer ever.
Hard to compare, you know, because just are comparing sprinters like Jesse Owens and one of the guys now,
Jesse Owens and like, who's the guy from Jamaica?
Runner?
Hussein Bolt?
Bolt.
How do you compare Jesse O'N's a bolt?
I mean, bolts faster, but was always a better athlete.
You could argue, yeah, they had less, you know, they had less.
Conditioning techniques?
Less conditioning.
The diet was probably not the same.
But, I mean, you know, Mohamed Al-Li certainly was very good.
Yeah.
I mean, he went through, he won the title four times, and he was a puncher.
He could take a punch.
But who's your favorite?
I mean, I kind of like Mike Tyson, too.
I mean in his prime.
Like in his prime.
Just like scary.
Yeah.
Scary.
Yeah.
And also his body built.
Built like a truck and everything.
Like a truck and a tank.
Yeah.
I would say one of those two.
Um, but then you have, you know, Rocky Marciano.
Oh, yeah.
You know, 502 and O.
Yeah.
Didn't lose a fight.
This is called shit talking with Dolph Lundgren.
Uh, these are rapid fire from my patrons.
They're like, uh, they love the show and, uh, inside.
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Here are the questions.
rapid fire this is little lisa where have you felt most accepted i would say um martial arts community
maybe yeah uh taylor r says favorite workout exercise circuit training meaning you know you you should
do about say 40 seconds on 20 seconds off and 10 10 exercises in the circuit i like that it's a
stamina fighter training it's a combination of strength and stamina yeah you still do that yeah
Don't do one tomorrow morning, probably.
Mark asks, what was Roger Moore like on the set in your first screen role in 1985's of
you to a kill?
Very nice guy.
Yeah, I love him.
He was great.
He, you know, at some time we had lunch together, the commissary in Pinewood Studios,
in the wood-paneled, you know, restaurant.
And he would smoke a cigar and say, Dolf is larger than Denmark.
And I don't know why he said that.
I can never figure it out because I'm from Sweden.
He thought it was funny.
Denmark, Dolf and Denmark.
Linda M., what are you most looking forward to right now?
I mean, the VACA, documentary.
I can't wait to see this documentary.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to go to Sweden and publicize this reality show with my two daughters and Emma,
because I love all three of them.
And I want to do it for their sake to see how it impacts their lives.
you know that's awesome gary f one thing that you are most proud of personally and or professionally uh personally i
would say my two daughters that they're good people that people everybody seems to like them they came
i did something right uh professionally professionally i guess that i managed to touch uh that many
people and and uh over the years and and i think whether i played a good guy or bad guy it seemed to have
have had a positive impact.
Yeah, I know you and Stallone are really tight.
You've always been, but wasn't there like a little riff for a moment?
There was a little riff online.
Yeah, there was one.
Yeah, that was more from him.
That was when they were going to do that Drago picture.
And I think he got upset because, you know, he's not really in charge of the rocket franchise, I guess, because, you know, he sold the rights to Irvin Winkler and MGM.
and they're in charge it.
And I understand that because he created all these characters and somebody else and I can do what
they want with them, which I get it.
You know, but I guess because the rock, the Drago picture was being produced by those guys
potentially produced and he got upset about it.
But I was, you know, I never, I never get upset.
I didn't fight back, you know.
Did you ever call him?
Yeah.
I called him and bought it.
And I, um, I told him this is a misunderstanding.
You know, I would want to just, I would never.
never make that picture without him, of course.
Right.
Because he's the smartest of all of them.
Yeah.
I mean, he's, he's the smartest.
He knows these characters.
So, you know.
So what do you say?
All right, though, far.
It's cool.
We're cool.
Yeah.
I'll take the Instagram down.
I'll take the post down.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm really excited for you.
I'm so happy for it because I didn't know a lot about this stuff until, you know, you started
hearing about it.
Yeah.
And the fact that you fought and you won, is this something that you just
have to monitor and uh but there's a good chance that you'll live a longer a long life yeah there is
i think uh from what i hear last is like uh you know it's everything is clean but i do a scan now it's
it's by every five six months used to be every three months i mean every time i do a scan you know
we should get nervous you know i mean um there's a fair chance they'll come back at some point i
mean we're all going to die all everybody you me and this guy and people in the other room my friend tom
says they're going to fucking put my head on a robot one day and I'm going to fucking live
forever. He's already looking into freezing himself. I'm not kidding. He is so serious about it.
He goes, no, I'm living forever, man. I mean, maybe. Maybe you're right. Yeah, maybe. But apart
from, you know, apart from the robot bit, I think that most people are going to, we all know how
it's going to end. I think you just, you know, the thing is once you have a cancer, like my therapist said,
there's just saying, you know, you can get hit by bus any day, right?
But you said once you have a cancer, you've seen the bus.
You know, the number of the bus, that's the difference.
But so it's a little more, a little closer, like more of a tangible.
Tangible, yeah.
But it's cool.
I mean, I think it makes me, it's actually, I would say it's a gift.
It's been a gift in my life.
I think that without the cancer, I would want to.
mad that without that diagnosis, I would have fucking self-destructed anyway because I was burning
the candle, training too much, taking too many supplements. It forced you to slow down.
It forced me. Yeah. Instead of getting a heart attack and go that way. Yeah. So I think it was a good
thing for me, you know, now I look at it now. This is always great to sit down with you. What about
The Witcher spin-off? The Wichers spin-off. The Rats, a Witcher tale. Yeah, it was a cool,
The Witcher was a cool
a cool character to play.
It was fun.
We shot in South Africa
for a month or so.
You know,
it went through a bunch of, you know,
editing and changes
and Netflix changed their money.
So many cooks in the kitchen.
I know.
Too many cooks.
I like my part.
I thought it was funny,
but, you know, there were some things
in that franchise that, you know,
I mean, some people love it.
I'm not, you know, I don't like too many, I don't like those type of movies.
This too is fantastic for me.
Right.
But I like, it was a good, it's a good role, acting part.
So, you know, I enjoyed it.
I could see you doing like a comedy, like a sitcom or something.
Yeah.
Like a single camera kind of.
Because you, you are funny.
Like, you don't have to say much.
Yeah.
You know, I think that you just, you know, you're the soft spoken guy.
But when you say something, it's like, holy shit, what?
You know, would you ever do that?
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe.
I've had some
Actually, I was still alone and I had a had a
No, it wasn't a comedy.
It was an action series we were going to do together
right before COVID.
But CBS got, you know, they replaced the leadership
and the guy changed his mind and they bought it,
but then they decided not to make it.
But it wasn't a comedy.
But no, I think comedy is more natural
and it feels fresher
because I played all of these badass guys.
Right.
Even when I played like in expandables, I always try to have fun with it.
I didn't want to play just the guy who's trying to be tough.
Because one of your biggest, the biggest, all the one of the biggest guys around,
you don't have to act tough.
It's better if you don't.
Right.
All right.
So hard cut vodka.
Yeah.
Get it anywhere.
Get it online.
Hardcut vodka.com.
Yes.
You can get it in Bevmo.
You can get it all around.
Look for signings.
Rocky 4th anniversary.
You got the upcoming autobiography.
What's it called?
It's just called Dauph Unbreakable as well?
The biography is called Fights Worth Fighting.
Fights Worth Fighting.
Yeah, and it's based on a,
loosely based on a TED talk I did about seven, eight years ago.
It was called, it was a Fulbright X TED Talk.
And because I had a full bright scholarship in the day,
it was called Fights Worth Fighting.
Right.
And the Doc Dolf Unbreakable.
Yeah.
This spring.
This summer, yeah.
This summer.
You're going to have.
a screening in here in LA? I hope so. Yeah, you're welcome. We got to invite me. I'd love to come.
We'll do something with probably conjunction with UCLA. Yeah. We're working with that now because
UCLA is where I got my treatment. What are you going to do for the rest of the day?
Um, I may go for a little walk. I'm just sitting at the computer all day. Otherwise, I'm going to go home
and chill and just go to bed early so I can train in the morning. Well, this is awesome.
It's great seeing you again, man. Thanks for all. Yeah, always fun to talk to you on years.
Yeah. We have a similar background.
It's always cool. You have good questions.
Yeah. You know, and I, thank you.
I, you know, and I work with Stallone in a couple movies.
Oh, yeah?
I loved it. Because we were talking constantly about, because we had a lot of back surgery, same
surgeons. He's like, who's your surgeon?
I goes, Dr. So on, so he goes, oh, that fucking asshole.
I'm like, you got gave me his number. He doesn't even return my calls.
He gets upset and we start talking. And I said, you know, it's like, you know,
he's pretty fucking funny. He is very funny.
And he looks at me, he goes, I know. It's like, you know, everybody thinks I'm always serious.
I'm always this.
the other you know i like to he's no he's he's everything he says is the one-liner you know like
yeah arnold it's a bit the same but arnold has you know he he he did more comedy in his
career oh yeah but you know they're they're funny but you know the people are of course
the big impact if you look say 25 years from i it's going to be you know rocky obviously
you know rambo the soundtrack the character
the inspirational value of all that he did.
It's amazing.
You know,
if you played out music in,
you know,
the smallest country in Africa,
everybody knows what it is.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
You hear that bump,
bump,
you want to cry.
Yeah.
You're inspired.
Yeah.
It's just unbelievable.
It was lightning in a bottle.
Yeah.
That shit doesn't happen often.
No, and, you know,
the fact that a guy wrote the script.
Sold his dog for it.
Yeah.
To make the movie.
One the Academy Award.
I mean, for best screenplay.
And nominated.
I mean, you know, he's done everything.
And Arnold, too.
I mean, Arnold's got to be one of the most successful individuals
whenever came to America.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, couldn't speak a word of English.
I had 20 bucks in his pocket.
I want to be a movie star.
I want to be the governor.
It's like, what?
And he did it.
What the fuck, man?
You can do anything.
You really could do anything.
Yeah, anything.
You just got to believe it.
Yeah.
There's a difference.
He believed it.
He believed it.
He believed it before.
You have to believe it before it can happen.
Yeah.
Otherwise, it's not going to happen.
Thanks for being here, man.
All right.
All right.
Loved it.
Always love, and he gave me a bottle of his vodka.
It did.
And it's delicious.
It's smooth.
Wasn't his shirt?
Hard cut.
I think it was his shirt.
It was hard cut?
Yeah.
I have the bottle in there.
Film reference.
Hard cut.
Yeah, like a punch.
Yeah.
Or like a, it's both.
Yeah.
Okay.
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