Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Ep 26: Jana Kramer

Episode Date: October 2, 2018

Jana Kramer (Country music star, One Tree Hill, Dancing with the Stars) discusses growing up in Detroit, catching her dad cheating when she was a teenager, and the daddy issues she deals with. Jana opens up about her ex-husband that tried to kill her and the PTSD she suffers from it, the drama on the set of One Tree Hill, and how her country music career started on a CMT reality show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Hi, folks. How are you? Rob. Hi, Michael. Hey, man. Just want to quick throw out to all the fans out there and the listeners, you guys are making the show great and by listening and keeping us going here. You're making the show great again. Yeah. The numbers have been great and the response has been super.

So we'll try bringing these great guests. Continue to do that. And thanks Ana Farris and Simp for backing up the show and everybody who's listening, man. So thank you very much. Rob, I love you. our guest today is Jana Kramer you'd seen her

in a one tree hill dancing with the stars click tons of movies love at first bark love at first bark she's got a what's the song I love

um the song you love is I got the boy yeah I got the boy country singer yeah she I love my country I love a little you know I grew up in southern Indiana Jana Kramer

she's very open she talks about divorce and uh you know life and kids and it's it gets pretty uh you know i thought i was dysfunctional but uh she's also dysfunctional and uh it was warm and honest and open let's get inside jana kramer it's my point of you you're listening to inside of you with michael rosenbaum live studio audience now see you you wouldn't date someone like rob what i've known what i gathered from

the news is you like really hunky bigger stronger macho guys that's what i gather but how does that work out for me not so that's right so rob and i have a fighting chance here we don't work out that much uh you look like you got some muscles hey i think that's a compliment i think you've got some muscles. Yeah. I mean, I'm not like... Rob's needs a couple more, though. He doesn't try so hard.

You try. He doesn't try. I don't try. I'm just... This is just who I am. Jesus. Already fighting words here with Jana Kramer. I know.

I'm from Michigan. I got, you know, I'm a fighter. One of my best friends, Dak Shepard is from Michigan. Oh, yeah. So is Kristen Bell. She's from Michigan? She was just on the show.

She's from Detroit, I believe, right? Isn't she? Yeah. I was born in Detroit. You were born in Detroit? Yeah, and then I was raised an hour northeast of Detroit, which is why I'm a Red Wing fan. What's the biggest misconception about Detroit?

Is that it's ugly? Is it really not ugly? It's beautiful. Detroit is beautiful. You're honestly saying, are you saying that because you have to go back and you don't want to hear of that. No, no, I love being from Michigan. Parts in big cities, there are parts that are not nice, right? Like there's parts of Chicago that aren't nice, New York, and there's parts of Detroit

that aren't nice. But there are also beautiful parts of Detroit, too. Like, Greek town is really pretty. There's great restaurants. I mean, they're trying to get. it together. And then Michigan in general is a gorgeous state. It's one of the top 10 most beautiful estates. Downtown? How about downtown, Detroit? I mean, don't go to eight mile, but like... Is eight mile the, where Eminem came up with that song? Yeah. That movie? Uh-huh.

Yeah, eight mile, right? Yeah, have you seen eight miles. I mean, like, would you go down to Compton? Uh, you know, I... No. You wouldn't. If I had some black friends with me. No. Wait, is it red or white, which I don't know. I'm from Chicago. You don't go to a synagogue unless you have a Jewish friend with you, right? True. But I'm just saying you don't. You don't go to Compton unless you have a black friend with you. I don't think they want to go either. I don't know. I'd go to Compton. I mean, you know, if I was. I mean, there's places that cops don't go down here in L.A. So I'm just saying it's not like, it's just like Detroit. There's places where the cops kind of look away. Same here.

Did you grow up in a happy family? Describe a happy family. Well, you know, we have a little dysfunction. Rob, he grew up with a perfect family. outside of Chicago and his mother and father are really sweet. They thought he was depressed for a while but he wasn't. He was just sort of an introverted, smart guy. Are you on antidepressants? Why would you even ask that? Because I think you have the screwed up family. You don't know me. You're right. I'm getting to know the inside of you. You think this is funny, Rob? Yeah. What do you think my issue is in my family? From my,

If you look at my Wikipedia page. I look, yes, yes. I mean, anybody who looks at Jana Kramer, I mean, unfortunately, and fortunately, if you look Jana Kramer up and you dig deep or you dig not even that deep, you'll see how fucking talented you are. Well, no, no, first, before we get into that, we'll get into what an amazing singer you are. What a good actress you are. You've done a lot of things.

And, like, I Got the Boy. She Got the Man. Is, like, an awesome fucking song. Thank you. And I didn't really know you. And we sort of follow each other on Twitter. You followed me first, by the way. I just want to throw that out there.

I told Rob you followed me first. Not true. As Snoop Dog once said, follow me, follow me, follow me, follow me. You followed me first. And I think you unfollow me to see that you follow me. That's not sure. I don't play. I don't play games.

I think he played a game. I like this song. I found the song. I like this singer. You know, she's pretty. I wasn't stalking you or anything. It wasn't. No.

What was the first thing I said? I'll read it if I have to. I don't remember. I said, hey, love your song, love your music, love to have you on the podcast, because we do singers, actors, athletes. You're not an athlete. You are an athlete, but we'll get into that. So I was like, you know, I need more singers on the show. I need more musicians.

And I loved your song. I was like, country. I grew up in southern Indiana. I love country. I listen. Hoosier. Exactly. And I listened to Eddie Rabbit and Ronnie Millsap and the early country in Alabama.

And I don't know if you even remember those because you're a little younger than I am. Not much. 34? Yeah, I'll be 35 in December. Okay, 35, so I'm 10 years older than you. Okay, that's not bad. And you've never been married? I haven't been married.

Do you want to be married? Sure. Do you want kids? Yeah. Great. Yeah, why wouldn't I? I mean, I'd be a great dad. Well, why are you single then?

Or are you not single? You know, there's been times where I've been a little close and things don't work out. What's wrong with you? Where do I fucking start, Jenna? What do you think your biggest issue in relationships are? Like, I know my life. By the way, if you became really famous, you could have an airport. J.R.K. Your middle name's Ray.

Jerk. Jerk? Yeah. Jerk. Is that what they always call it? Hey, jerk. Jerk. That's not nice. Now, what was your question to me? What do you think your biggest issue in a relationship is? First of all, I want to let you know something that I'm interviewing you. I know. I always do this. Before we start, because I know, because you want your own podcast and you're going to do that. No, no. But I like this. This is, again, this is for the audience out there, this is always therapy. So we always talk about that. So, okay, so say that again. What is your biggest issue in relationship? I think the biggest issue for me is, you know, I grew up with a little dysfunction and I never

trusted my parents. Why? So, because they weren't honest with me. And I think it's very important. Did you have like this? I am the most honest person there is. I mean, the only thing you do, if you want to mess up a relationship with me, you'll lie, just lie to me.

If you don't lie to me, it will last forever. What kind of lie, for friendship? I think white lies are. I mean, there's white lies. Like, you don't want to say, like, in the most of them. morning, you know, Janet, if, like, if we were, like, married or something, you wake up, it's like, how, how's my pants? And I, you know, I don't want to say, oh, my God, those are the ugliest fucking pants

I've ever seen. So what I might say is, like, those are cool. I've seen better pants, but those are cool. Yeah. And then you know that they're not great. Yeah, yeah. Or you could say, fuck you, Michael. I love my pants.

Well, why did your parents lie to you, though? Like, did you have, like, a sibling out there that you didn't know about? No, it wasn't like that. It was just like, you know, they're perfect. Everybody else is a mess. lies on top of lies, she's very strict, and, you know, they were young when they had me, so I'm very forgiving. I am forgiving.

Well, I think that's good, though. But people are going to break a trust. Your parents were, I have a feeling they got divorced. Yeah, when I was a freshman in high school. I actually caught my dad cheating. You caught him pounding. Well, not, like, physically doing it, but he came home. It was like...

That would have been a better story. I know. You just imagine what he was doing? No, no, terrible. No, but he came home at like 2 o'clock in the morning, and I was like, what are you doing? He was like, I went to Home Depot, and I was like, what? And then I went downstairs and I said, I think my dad's cheating at my mom. And then they got divorced.

More like Home Depot. Deep in the hoe at home. Oh, it's terrible. But, I mean, we're fine now, though. Yeah, yeah, he cheated a bunch. But it's, you know, we're good now. Now that I have a daughter, like, forgiveness. Okay, good now.

But you just skipped 25 years. I did. So, or 20 years. Major daddy issues. Major daddy issues. Huge. I mean, I dated, like, guys, a million times older than me, like, was trying to get my father's approval you know i think i think i've gone through that i think rob rob you

probably go through that you we always want to make are you just spit all over yourself are you all right it's all over you i have a hole in my mouth all right okay uh look here's the reality i think that um we all want approval from friends from people from colleagues from parents to and if we don't if we don't eventually grow out of it and say hey i got to do this for me then we're just we're wasting a life yeah we're living a life for someone else i mean i've been in so much therapy it's not even funny yeah me too i think therapy is good though like now that i'm in my 30s i'm like okay well therapy yeah therapy is very important yeah i think you know what i gathered from reading wikipedia on you and uh i love to love well i really think you just

desperately want to be i hate to use the word desperately i don't want to sound like you're desperate No, I'm desperate to have a family. You want a family, you want to have something that's... Portrait picture family. Yeah, and I think that you run through guys, and they don't last long. No. Because you're like, oh my God, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do this. No, I'm like a true love addict at, like, at my core.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think, have you ever heard the song, who's saying that song, slow motion for me? Slow motion for me, move a slow motion for me. Slow motion, no, if you don't love me, like, by like, month one, I'm out. I can see you later. Is that true? Pretty much.

Well, so you got to give a time. Well, I know. Because, for instance, if you were falling in love with Rob, he might be hesitant because he said, okay, she's married this guy and this guy and this guy. Okay. So you know what? I'm going to take my time and I'm just going to see where things go. Yeah.

And just enjoy each other. Yes. If there was ever next time, that was what I would take years. Years to be in love. I don't say you have to take a fucking year. Well, I mean, I would take a beat. You know what I mean? Now that I have my daughter and stuff.

Yeah. So. It starts out with. just, hey, let's get to know each other. Do you make me laugh? I mean, I wish I could go back and do things differently because I think then you would find out more things about people before you jump so fast. Well, I think there should be a rule.

If you're not married more than a year or two, they should be negated. Yeah. Oh, 100%. So then you wouldn't be married. No. You really wouldn't be married at all. You wouldn't have three marriages under your bell. I don't think it's fair.

You know, the first one, I only knew him for two weeks. We went to a drive-thru in Vegas. And then that one tried to kill me. So then that's a whole other story. And then the second one, it's not my best friend. But we, like, we had a wedding, and that's it. No, that's Jonathan Schick. Jonathan.

And I know Jonathan. He's like my best friend. I worked with Jonathan Schick on a show called him Pastor. He came in for a day. It was great. I love him. I see him, like, weekly. Him and his wife and I are, like, best friends.

Oh, good. So you don't, like, threesome or anything. God, no. No, nothing like that. No, like, his son and my daughter are, like, best friends. That's really, that's really, what's the word, Rob? Modern family? No, it's just really nice.

But, I mean, we always just say, like, we had a wedding. We didn't, we weren't married. Right. So, yeah. Take me back to Michigan. Your dad cheats on your mom. Did your mom cheat? Was she a flirtatious woman?

No. Not that I know. I mean, she's flirtatious. Is she beautiful? I think she's stunning. She's married. She just got married. Well, I wasn't asking for that.

I just want to know if she's like, you come from a good looking family. I think my mom's beautiful. My brother and I look totally different. He's like six, four blonde hair, blue eyes. Well, now he's bald, but. And he loves you, by the way. He does? Yeah.

Huge fan of you. No way. Yeah. What's his name? Steven. Stephen. Yeah. Hey, Stephen.

How are you? I'm really excited that you're a fan of mine. It's nice to have fans. Yeah, he's a huge fan. Will he listen to this? Probably not. Well, you can tell them that I talked about them. I'll take a picture.

And were you guys sort of, did you have the parents that let you just do whatever you want? If you're going to drink, drink at the house. Yeah, that's my mom. But I've never been drunk because of that. Are you not a drinker? I drink wine every night. but I've never been drunk because my mom was like,

hey, you want a wine cooler when I was 14? I was like, yeah, I'll try it. So I was never the girl that was like, I have to get drunk because my parents won't let me. So I just drove all my friends. No. Rob, do you hear this? She said she's never been drunk. Trust me, my friends try all the time. So do you think you just have like it's inherited that you have some kind of

I don't, I have major like anxiety so I don't want to be out of control. I don't want to be the girl vomiting. I don't want to be like I like to have a little tipsy like wine guys and then that's it do you what kind of anxiety do you get well mine started from PTSD and then now I just have like what do you mean PTSD well and the guy tried to kill me I got post-traumatic and how many years ago was that oh god 12 13 so then now I just get anxiety if I'm like I feel like I'm trapped or um like I can't drive on the expressway like he tried to kill you yeah this was Michael Gambino yeah and who's dead so you could comfortably talk about this yeah

you were married to this guy I knew him for two Was he in the mafia? Well, so Gambino sounds like a mafia name. That was, he made that name up. It wasn't really a Gambino. No, it was like, I don't even know what his real last name was. But when we went to court, there was like a whole like package of like, or stacks of papers being like he was in jail for a money laundering for seven years, domestic violence on his previous wife. I'm like, what?

I had no idea. But again, I knew him for like two weeks. And then I stayed with him for a year. And it was just got abusive and more abusive. Yeah. And you didn't know how to get out of it. Because I was married to him. I was like, my mom's going to kill me if I tell her.

But now, in hindsight, I should have told her. I mean, what do you say to people out there who deal with this? Who are in relationships who are abused? I mean, obviously, you were frightened to get out. It's hard. That's the thing. It's like people in that, I mean, people are in verbally abusive relationships, too. That's sometimes, I think, worse than physical at times.

So I don't know. I just, it's hard to see it. But if you can, if you know that it's wrong, then get up. out if you know that you can like like like the very first time someone puts their hands on you oh run walk run run run because you will get stuck in that because you'd be like oh well actually i probably cause that i did that isn't that something it's so it's so messed up and i get it because i could i could like probably easily go back there but that's why it's like and then the sorries i don't know i'm so sorry i'll never happen again i love you so much it always happens again yeah

and then it always happens again and you'd find yourself you don't you don't even get drunk so What could he be yelling at you for? What could you be doing that upset someone? Those people, like, just will come up with anything. Are you a troublemaker? Are you a shitter? Mm-mm. No.

I'm very stubborn, though. Now, someone would say, that's my German. Someone who's had three marriages, you got, like, look, there's three sides to every story. My side, your side, the truth. Yeah. Right? Do you think that's true? Yeah.

Do you think that you were accountable for any of these? I was accountable for Jonathan's. Okay. What caused that? that? Distrust. Okay. Yeah.

Did you cheat? Yes. You did? But he did something wrong too. So I kind of like justified my action. We both did things and so I justified my actions because of what he did, which is wrong, totally wrong. Right.

Never justify it. Like I should have been like, I don't want to be with you. So like you have to leave. Were you always sort of like a cheater? I've cheated before in relationships, yeah. You have. Yeah. Do you think that's something that's just going to carry on?

No. Do you really think that the next guy you date, you're just, you're, well, technically I'm married. Right, but that, yeah. Yeah. And what's, what's going on there? You know, it's just every day is a different day, you know? So you don't know where that's going? One step at a time.

Okay. So you just take one thing at a time. One day at a time, sweet Jesus, I think it was a. But no, for me, it's like if I'm not going to, if I'm going to be in a relationship and I start to go this way, like that's showing me that I either have to work on the relationship. Something's going wrong or I have to, I have to leave. Right. Because I think it can be hard to be monogamous at times. Sure.

I think when I know in my 30s, I'm like, all right, I don't want to be that person because I didn't like being that person. So there's a reason why I'm doing that. It's not about the other person and it's about myself. So what am I trying to get? There's something that I'm trying to feed myself and that no one else. You couldn't feed me. My husband, nobody else could feed me. So I have to like.

Do you feel guilty? Was it a horrible feeling after or not really? No. You didn't. You're like, I just want to do this again. But again, that was, like, my own issue that I had to work out. Right. And how do you work that out?

Do you go to therapy? And the therapist says, don't do that. What kind of advice could they give you other than stop fucking other people? And it's like, no, it's like, I was just filling myself with like, have you never cheated? I've never cheated. Well. But I haven't, you've had a lot of relationships. I haven't, I've had relationships, but I've never cheated.

I always felt like, hey, you know, I'm just going to break up. Yeah. If it's worth cheating. Or if you have an open relationship, I guess I've never had an open relationship. No, I don't do that. Yeah, I mean, I couldn't do that. I don't think I could do that because the thought of, like, me with other women is great. But the thought of my, the woman I'm with with other men is just not a great thought.

And that's a double standard. And that ain't right. Rob? I just, no, totally. But I think, again, once you get older, it's like, in my 30s, I could never imagine, like, doing that. I'd rather, I would just end the relationship. Yeah, I mean, don't you want, I mean, look, we all want, like, somebody, you know, I'm 45. And, you know, eventually I'm going to probably be shitting my pants.

I'll be in my 80s. You want someone to wipe it? Well, I just want someone who loves me unconditionally who's like, I loved you when you were decent looking, and I love you when you're old and crotchety, which could be next year. No. No, but you know what I mean? So that's the end game. You don't want to be like 70 and going, I have nobody. And you don't, and you don't just settle for someone.

And I think that you learn that. Yeah, but a lot of women do. Like that's like. A lot of men do. We got to get married. I have kids. I'll marry her. She's fine.

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with Michael Rosenbaum. Rocket money. All right, so Michigan, did you always sing? Yeah, my dad was in a bunch of bands. He was in a German band. He was in a folk band. He was in a rock band. German band?

Yeah, I'm German. Oh, rocking me. I guess. Wait, why do you speak German, by the way? Are you German? Becian. I speak a little. No, I did a crappy movie in Germany. Sorry, if anybody from the movie is listening. What movie? It doesn't matter. But I did this movie, and I remember I had a driver who picked me up every morning. His name was Nico. And Nico would say, Good morning, Mr. Rosenbaum. And I go, hey, Nico, how do you say I ship my pants in German? Say, Michael, why do you want to notice? Nobody wants to hear these things. But I have been de chosen

It means I made in my pants Oh, okay So I would just like to learn Like different words I'm tired You know that one I love you I love you

I love you I love you But Bavarians more Ish libe Dish Oh okay And then I'maftish I like you I hate you

Thank you Yeah thank you You hate love me Okay Hey to hoopcha No but red wings I used to figure skate For the Red Wings

Figure Skate You don't figure skate For the Red Wings Yeah it is No, they're hockey girls. No, no, no, no, I was the first one. Yeah, but they don't figure skate. Yeah, huh?

They have the shovels and they push the ice. No, no, no, no, no. This is before the shovel girls. You know about this road? I would go out there with the flag. You'd skate by yourself? Yeah, we will flag guys. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome figure skating.

Detroit semi-pro. What do they call you? No, I was just an ice girl. They were like, hey, you don't get tickets, but you can watch the game by the Zamboni. And I was like, yes. I was diehard. I almost miss my graduation.

because the Red Wings were in the playoffs. Stanley Cup 2002. Really? My mom was like, I was like, mom, like game four is the same night as graduation. I was like, oh, no, what am I going to do? She goes, well, you can't miss the game. And I was like, this is why I love you. Oh, my God.

So we had her, like, caught friend, like, put the sirens on and, like, I went to the game, did the, like, rounds. And you'd go around and skate with a flag and everybody would cheer? Yeah. Do they have pictures of you doing that? No. Nobody took a picture of you. Maybe, but. There's probably a video somewhere.

Maybe. Wouldn't you want to see that? Yeah. Were you a good skater? That was pretty good. Really? Did you practice your crossovers? Oh, wow.

Look at you. Well, I grew up playing hockey. Are you good? I mean, I'm probably one of the best actor hockey players there is. What about Justin Bieber? He's okay. Oh. He's, you know, he doesn't pass.

Do you have any regrets not going pro? I play with him at the All-Star game. He doesn't pass the puck. He just wants to score. And other players, even though they don't say it, and he's Justin Bieber. And he was really sweet, by the way. He's a really nice guy. But if you don't pass, the guy start to chirp.

Okay. And they chirp. And they're, well, they're like, fucking guy doesn't fucking, you hear it on the bench. Learn the fucking pass and they don't like it. You try to be the hot dog out there. We all had our hot dog days, Jana. He's young. Yeah, he's the bebes.

He's the bebes. You know him? No, I don't know him. Do you think he's attractive? No. Too young for you. Way too young. You like older guys?

Yeah. What's the, okay. Okay, so back to high school. Okay. Let's go back to high school. Oh, but my high school sweetheart was a year younger than me. And that's who I got the boys about. You got the what?

I got the boy is about it. Oh, yeah. Really? You wrote that in high school? No, no, no. I didn't write the song. You didn't write the song? No.

Can you sing just like that without warming up? No. Well, yeah, but I don't want to. I'm not asking me to, although I did somehow leave a guitar right there. No. Did you notice how I left it there? It's casually placed. No, I'm like, I'm semi-retired.

But you love music. You've always loved music. What were you listening to when you're growing up? James Taylor. James Taylor is your favorite. James Taylor's song. Fire and Rain. Typical.

I love that song. You know what mine is. Oh, you're singing. No, I just love that song. Seeing sunny days that I thought would never end. I've seen lonely time. Was it? Say, you could sing right off the thought.

Of course you could sing. I mean, millions of people listen to your music. It was like, I looked at something, 27 million people listened to I Got the Boy. Cool. I don't think 26 million watched the first season. This is like $33 million, but I'll have rap pull it up and see. Yeah, I'm pulling up Spotify. Jesus.

Obviously, you're not modest. I'm kidding. So, I mean... 38 million. 38 million. You guys got to listen to the song. That's great. I mean, she's got a lot of great songs.

Listen to them. I think you're pretty exceptional. Damn, it's my new song out. Damn, it's the new song. Now, here's what's funny when I, when I, when I, we were texting, he said, I'm not really doing the country thing anymore. Well, you know... What the fuck was that?

Now you've got a new song. Well, because I'm not really touring anymore. Well, that's different than you're not seeing, you know? Well, I'm not on a label anymore, so... Did they drop you? Yeah. Why? Because my last few singles didn't work, and I'm a female.

But you're so provocative. Wouldn't it be the perfect girl to keep around? Hey, man, we don't know what she's capable of. She is, I mean, she's got, she could... Said I got dropped. Got booted. Did you cry? No, because they wouldn't let me act.

And I was like, guys, I don't want to be put in a box. So they just, they kept putting me in a box. So they dropped you. Yeah, they dropped me. Well, um... Good. times thanks warner you could always tour with the sandwich who it's my band oh sorry shoot we started we started a year ago no we don't nobody knows us oh okay we just play in my basement and we played it like

what instrument uh the guitar do you sing i sing a little bit i'm not like you you're a good singer no i write songs anyway it doesn't matter about me this is you so you're did you act in high school no you didn't so you just were playing music no i wasn't really i no one knew i could sing until i got my record deal no one knew you could sing too that's fucked come on you you You had to sing for somebody before the record deal. Well, I mean, I did a sort of with my friend Deanna. We did this, like, stupid reality show on CMT. Can you do it?

Can you do it? Can you duet. Do you know Deanna Dozier? I don't. No. Can you duet? That's kind of a play a word. It was on CMT, and it was during the writer strike when I was on Friday Night Lights.

So I was like, well, I'll give it a shot. And then they ended up, and she was the singer and I was like the actress. So you never trained? No. So you never trained and you just started singing. Mm-hmm. Were you nervous? Yeah.

Because if I fast forward, I'm like a girl who's never trained who just starts singing and gets a label. And then years later is opening for Blake Shelton and whatever the fuck. That was fun. All right. Come on, man. All right. So are you one of those lucky people? No.

You work hard. I work super. Like they said, you know, because I was doing One Tree Hill and I gave some of the songs to the creator of the show. And I was like, look, I don't know if any of this is good, but if it is, you know, we just listened to it. And he ended up turning my character into a singer, which is how I got my record deal. it's because it ended up selling a bunch and so was that song i won't give up i was like i'm i say i won't give up um so now i sing that to my daughter every night jolly jolly ray jolly ray you got real unique you used your middle name for her middle name super unique don't forget

you who your mom is yeah don't forget oh she will not forget she loves her mama so in high school you were popular no i was not come on you're pretty girl i was not i was not i was not i was not i did bloom until like after high school. Really? I didn't bloom either. Really? Rosenbaum didn't Rose and Bloom until. No, seriously, I was a smallest kid in my high school. I used to get really upset because like Shereisa Moore and Jenny Kiegel and

Jamie Biggerstaff and Angie Mason, they were nice, but they just go, oh, little rosy, and they pinched my cheek and I was cute and I didn't have a hair. I didn't have hair on my balls and I was short. And then I graduated. You don't want hair in your balls anyways. That's the worst. In general? In general.

Well, hair grows on your balls. I know, you should shave it. Well, I, I don't want to get it. I do. Okay, good, because that would be so nasty. What does it? Terry and the Henderson's over here. Yeah, but he's got a comb over, so he's cute.

He's got to come over in his balls. He's got the, he's got an Adolf Hitler down there. I could say that I'm a Jew. Oh. But wait a minute. How do we get in the ball hair? I don't know. You're the one that brought up your damn hairy balls.

You bring it up a lot. I didn't bring up my hairy balls. You did. I said I didn't have a hair on my ball. Okay. Well, that's a good. I had two. Let's go back to that.

I still have two. So I went to college and all of a sudden I had a growth spurt. Where did you go to college? Western Kentucky University in Bowling Green Kentucky. What did you study? Again, this is my podcast. Sorry.

No, no. I studied acting, communications, took, I think, a law class. I think I took some... Do you still audition or no? Do they just give you roles now? Yeah, no, I audition. I auditioned for this. What we do in the shadows, they did a,

they're doing a TV show for FX, and I really wanted a part because I love the movie. And I auditioned for it, and I tested for it, and I didn't get it. Why? What did they say? um you were too good you just were too good for the show you're gonna overshadow every no they really like me but i think uh i just you know that that's acting i mean what what you can't you can't

leave an audition you can't ever go you can't sit there and just judge yourself and go oh what did i do wrong i didn't do this i didn't do this ultimately we know as actors as even when you go in for a job a lot of times it's when you walk in the door there's an energy there's that's the guy that's the girl that's whatever and you sit down you say a few things and they know if that's what they want i know like why like why do they put us through the whole gambit of like the auditioning then because they know they know they know the second because i they do but it's it's just the process it's unfortunate we have to go through and uh it's it's difficult i mean how many auditions you get you go on before you quit or you say all right and you get lucky along the way i think

my worst one was I had tested last year for Mayans with Kurt Sutter and who's Kurt Sutter? He did Sons of Anarchy, which is like my all-time favorite show. I like, you know what? You can probably see that. I could see that because you're, I could see dysfunction. It's a dysfunctional show. So I, like, I was obsessed with Jack's, Charlie Hunnam, the whole thing. And so when I found out that, you know, he liked my tape and that was testing. And I met him. I mean, it was like the greatest moment in my life. And I freaking nailed the audition. And I was like, bawling and like, it was totally in it. And then it was between me and. the other girl and he picked the other girl and I still have not gotten over that one that's a tough one you got to get over it I am I always um after the audition I take my my they're called sides yeah paper where your lines are on oh they're called thanks and I was telling the audience and I really fuck and I ripped them up and I throw them in the trash before I leave the audition well that I usually do

yeah I never you didn't do that that time no because I wanted it so bad and that's the problem you carried it with you you probably still have those sides under your pillow no but I did look at the girl that got it um her incident she wasn't as pretty as me I mean, she's really pretty, but it's just, I like, I like that you just, you just say whatever is on your mind. You probably get a lot of heat for that. Yeah. Some people say, the Janice are, you know what? She could be a real bitch.

She's a sweetheart, but she's also a little fireball. Well, I'm sarcastic and sometimes that hurts me, but it's okay. And that's what the label would say, you can't do say this, you can't do this. And I was like, oh, you just want to do what you want to do. Yeah. Did you go to college? No. Well, I went one day and I said, I need to go to the bathroom and I never went back because I was like, what

What am I doing here? It was a community college, Oakland. You went in and you walked out. Yeah, pretty much. And then what did you do? I moved to New York. And then what did you do? I got on a soap opera.

General hospital? All my children. That's the one. That's the one. Did you like it? How did you, again, did you study acting? No, so, oh my gosh, this is really random. I was a cocktail waitress in Detroit at this club called Seven, Seven Deadly Sins.

Of course you were. this is all adding up to this is such a great you're getting you know you should pay me for therapy and anyways I met Aiden Turner and his fiance they were at the club and I was that shameless like oh my god here's my headshot I want to be an actress gave it to him and he's like oh thank you like this is lovely I'll give it to the casting director and then I was about to graduate high school and I emailed him and I said hey not sure if you gave my headshot to the guy I mean I was like I hate these people but um i was that person and i was a you're the only person that i know so can you please just give it to him so then the cast and director calls me he's like hey um do you live in new

i was like no i live in michigan he's like oh well then i can't use you and i was like what do you mean he's like well you live in michigan and you have nothing on your resume so you'd be like a local hire and i was like oh well then i live in new york and he's like what i was like yeah i totally live in new york and he's like can you get here tomorrow and i was like yeah Yeah, for sure. I met him and then he gave me a job. That was it. Yeah.

But it was fun. You have run a lot of lines for that. Yeah, but I mean, mine were like, here's the paperwork. Is that it? Yeah, I mean, they got me. Would you tell everybody like, I'm on all my children? You guys, I had a party before I even got the part. Like, when I left, I told my mom that I booked all my children before I even met the cast and director.

Really? Because I knew she wouldn't let me go. See, that's your problem. I have learned. By the way, country, people always say, you guys, hey you guys. Yeah. That's why you said you guys. You always say you guys, usually.

Y'all, usually. Y'all and you guys. And you're from Michigan. You guys is Michigan. You guys is Michigan? Yeah. Is it really? Yeah.

I think. Oh. But the reason I don't tell my family things or anybody, because in the beginning, it's like, hey, I'm meeting with, yeah, I'm just giving you advice here. I don't tell any auditions. I'm like, mom. Yeah. Stop. I'm not going to get it.

Mom, I didn't get saving private Ryan. That was 20. five years ago. Well, if you would have got that part, you would have had, well, no, la, no. Well, I don't know what they were thinking. Yeah. All the time.

Okay, so you're doing that, and you start taking off. You start doing other things now. Yeah, start doing that. And then I moved, and everyone's like, you should go to L.A. And you weren't married at this point. No. And then I went to L.A. And then I went to L.A.

And that's when I met. Were you a party girl? No. No, I told you I've never been drunk. But you could still party when you're not drunk. No, but it wasn't my thing. And my, like, my friend was like an A. What about drugs?

Never touched drug in my life. This is what's crazy. You don't do drugs. You don't get drunk. You make lots of mistakes. I told you. I'm a love addict. There's different things.

There's a drug addict. There's a love addict. There's a thing called a love addict. Yeah. You're addicted to love. Might as well face it. Rob, you know that song? But I'm on punching.

How could you not know might as well face it? Robert Palmer. Duh. Might as well face it. You're a dick. To do love. Or you're a dick. Both.

I can't believe. He doesn't know that song. So you move back to L.A. And what's going on in L.A.? You know, stuff. You get an agent? Yeah, I got an agent at UTA because I lied to him and told them that I was SAG and I wasn't. UTA is one of the biggest agencies around and you got in?

Long story short, Randy Jackson of American Idol was the one that brought me to L.A. And then I started- Well, fuck off. How did Randy Jackson get you in L.A.? Because I was his waitress at the W. Hotel in New York. So you just liked you, miss. You come to your girl? No, he's like, do you sing?

And I said, no. And I said, I'm an actress. And he's like, well, you know, I'm starting a management company. You know, I can set you up with some casting people and see if you got any talent, basically. So, yeah, I flew out to L.A., read with, like, the head of Fox. You read with them? You learned lines? No, no, no.

They just like, it was like a, we don't know, those meetings, a general. General meeting. Yeah, yeah. And they just liked you? Well, the cast and director told Randy that I was good. And so then... What do you mean you were good? You didn't read anything.

I did. I read sides. Okay, that's what I asked you. Yeah, yeah. What sides were there? I don't remember. It was like a George Lopez. show something like that they they found your talent by reading lines from a george lopez show the head of

fox who's supposed to know everything about the business brings a girl a cocktail waitress in from new york who reads sides from a george lopez show and says oh yeah she's got it yeah that was it That was it. And they start sending you out? No. So what happened was. Jesus, man. This is the most.

I can't believe what's happening. I was studying theater and I was doing off-Broadway. That's your problem. No, I just wasn't. It's, you have to be real, you know? I was real. I didn't, like, I wasn't all serious and shit. I was always fun.

But I think it's, you know, it's, you're much better looking than I am. That's not true. Yeah, it is. I think you're a, I think good-looking people have it easier. That, that, are you kidding me? I think it's true. The majority of the roles I don't get is because they say I'm too pretty. Okay, hang on a second.

I always said if I had Brad Pitt's looks right now, if I was good looking as Chris Hemsworth, absolutely I would be a tremendous star right now. No doubt about it. I totally disagree with you. I completely agree with you. I disagree with you. Listen to me. Here's my logic to that.

I think I'm pretty good. But if I was fucking gorgeous and with the same talent, I would get many more opportunities. So not true. Bullshit. Tell me. Then I, how come every single audition they're like, she's just too pretty? I think that's just, they're being nice. I think the casting director's like, this is, I talked to a casting director once and I said,

be honest with me. I won't say anything. His name is Tony. And I said, listen, do you ever say, oh my God, they bombed? They didn't do well. It wasn't a good audition. They should. You know what he said?

No. Why? I'm going to tell you. Why do I want to know? He says, because you never know when that actor, something else is going to happen and they're going to blow up or something's going to happen. And then later on, they don't want to hear that that guy said that. And you just, oh, so casting directors, never. Think about this.

How many times has your agent called you and said, Jana, you really didn't do well in that audition? Or Jana, of course, and you're not going to get it because this whole business are fucking lying. I love casting directors. I have friends who are casting directors. they don't want to say you were bad. The worst they're going to say is she was okay. She did a good job. Yeah.

But you'll never hear. How many times in your career have you ever heard? Eh, never. See, Jenna? So this whole time, you've got to go to therapy. Because you've thought you were great this whole time. And you probably sucked at least 20% of the time. I mean, I do, I know when I suck when I walk out.

So if you know when you suck and then the casting director says you did a good job, liar. That's true. You know, there's a lot of artificial people here. But as much as, and I've read where you said, I'm not an L.A. girl. I'm a country girl. I'm a Michigan girl. And you made that clear. Now, I'm in flip-flops. And you are. Listen, I think you're incredibly down to earth. You didn't roll up here in a Rolls Royce or a Mercedes. Because I can't afford one. Maybe the three marriages have put some. But, you know, I do think you're a normal girl with a little crazy, which I've got a little crazy. Listen, I'm telling, I'm looking in a mirror, except. the divorces, I think that, you know, we all have crazy. And to be in this business and to have success, you can't be too normal. And the guys that appear normal, there's shit going on that you

don't know about. There's shit going on that when they go home, dark shit happens. And you always hear that. That's what I find solace. And that's what I find peace in knowing that everyone's fucked up. And I've talked about this ad nauseum, but you're fucked up. Yep. And you're working on it. Yeah. And I'm fucked up and I'm working on. I'm working on. I'll be working on. 100. What was it like opening up for Blake Shelton? He's awesome. He's really, really cool guy.

Did he sing that song, Red Rose Flower Fied only picked you, took you home, set you on the counter, oh, about a month or two. That's his new one. No, that was an old one. Is an old one? She wouldn't be gone. She wouldn't be gone. We have a really bad voice train outside.

I can't even. Yeah, I know. Sorry. I don't remember how it goes. What's the new one he's got? Minute. Five more minutes is up. Oh, it's Scotty McCrary.

I love that song. What's the other one that Blake Shelton just did? You name the dogs. Yeah. You name the kids, I'll name the dog. You name the kids, I'll name the dog. No. That's not like, I like his old stuff, like Austin.

Oh, okay. Who's your favorite country singer? My favorite country singer. I'll tell you my favorite song right now. Well, I mean, all time. He's amazing. Okay. But I say all time, all time.

Patsy Cline. What's your favorite song? Well, crazy is good. but I like that song actually what's it called well how could you like it if you don't know it well because she got you no it is she got you it's just like I got the boy and I didn't know that until afterwards do you think you'll get married you think you'll stay married you know it I have no idea okay do you think you'll have more children I have no idea I hope so I want more kids you were on one tree hill for a year no three years three years I skipped two you did

What was it like working with the cast from Monterrey Hill? It was tough because... What's the dude's name? Well, Chad Michael Murray. He wasn't there when I came in. And who's the girl? Sophia Bush. Sophia Bush.

She's great. Did you work with Chantelle Van Santon? Yeah. Yeah, she's a good friend of mine. I love Chantel. She's great. We live next door to each other. Are you guys friends?

Yeah. She was just over like a week and a half ago. Really? Did you get along with everybody? So we didn't get along on the show. You and the characters? Yeah, because our creator kind of pitted us against Mark Schwann. And he just got in trouble with some things.

Yeah, we just... Did you witness any of that? Yes. You did? Yeah. Really? Uh-huh. I met him on a plane once many years ago and he was just, he seemed very sweet and subtle

and quiet and that was all I knew of him. Hey, Rosenbaum, how are you, man? I'm like, oh, good, man. And he just seemed like, and so it's, that's what I'm talking about. Sometimes you don't know about dark things. Sometimes you don't, and I don't know. Was it all true? yes it was all true yeah all those things that happened yeah it was messed up we what happened exactly

you know about this rob nope it's a crater one tree hill and he had some allegations about sexual harassment did he harass you yeah so like with the whole mark swan thing you know what did he do well one of the things he did to me was he said do you want to be on the poster for one tree hill and i was like i was like of course he's like and he's like all right well then you're going to go to new New York. Let's have some fun. And kind of like did it in like a, the let's have some fun kind of made me feel a little uncomfortable. So then I was dating Jonathan at the time. And I said, Jonathan, I need you to come to New York because I think Mark just tried to hit on me to be like, all right. Well, you know, if I'm bringing you to New York, let's have some fun, basically. So then Jonathan flew to New York and he shows up at the hotel at my door. Mark shows up at my hotel door. With Jonathan there? And Jonathan was there. Was it uncomfortable? It was super uncomfortable. And what happened? He's like, oh, I didn't know you were coming. And I was like, yeah, he flew in and surprised me.

Like, yay. And did you guys hang out? And then Mark never really liked me after that. Yeah, that's, that's kind of fucked, right? It's just a little weird. Right. So you're a young girl. You're naive.

I'm like, of course I want to be a poster. I want to be a poster. I want to have a career. I don't know exactly what he means. It's a little convoluted. Maybe he just wants to go to New York and have some fun. And I'll get this, I'll be on the poster, season 19, whatever. But I've witnessed, like, so many other things, though.

He would, like, come by and, like, give us, like, weird massages, and I'd be like, oh. Yeah, you know what it is? It's inappropriate to even say what he said. So I get that. But at the same time, though, I wish I would have been strong enough to be, like, no. But then when people have done that, like, they got booted off the show. I went to a dinner and a show with this gay man once. Yeah.

And we went to the show, and I hung out with Ben Stiller's. family and we dance I danced with his mom she was awesome and his dad and we hung this guy I thought was just like hey come to the show with me I was like oh yeah this guy's great he wants me to go to show with him I'm a young actor I'm doing off Broadway like New Jersey Broadway way the fuck off Broadway let's go with this guy yeah he's great he's not I didn't think he was hitting it on me I'm just I'm fun I'm a fun person Jana and I went out and then we went back and he like we we went back to his his place he's like oh let's get a drink I was like I didn't think anything

of it and then he kind of put his hand on my arm and I remember going hey I was like I love you man you're awesome I had the greatest time but I'm as straight as they come dude I love vagina I don't know if I said those exact words but I said that I said I'm not gay and he goes oh oh okay no of course no whatever and done never called me again never talked to me again he was like a big theater guy I mean just nothing just like it was the same I guess you could say I mean wasn't like I wasn't working with him. So it wasn't really sexual harassment.

Right. In this business, you have to provide some safety. Look, if you don't go to New York or if you say no, then you might lose your job. Yeah. He could have just been like, okay, well, guess what? You're not being on the poster. And guess what? I'm writing you off.

Well, he tried to write off a girl because he, the girl was like, don't touch me. Was he married? Yeah. So all this is how he was married. Yeah. Which is such a bummer. Let's just take a deep breath, Rob. Let's take a snack break.

You know, it's an important thing That this movement has Snacks my first Do you really? Yeah That it has come about And it's been in full force And you know

What did we got there? Want some? No, no, I don't That's not one I thought maybe I'm gonna chew in the mic right now I thought you get a healthy protein bar But those look like barbecue chips

Oh I love barbecue chips Are you too Are you enjoying this? I am Are you? Sort of Do you think I'm more crazy or less crazy? No, we haven't even gotten

to the crazy really yet What time is it? It's it's it's We're almost done, if you need to be. My dogs are just running loose on Venture. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's, I can't believe I would have canceled this. I couldn't.

I already canceled. Look at this picture of my daughter. Oh, my gosh. You could see this picture of her daughter. Oh, my, you have really good jeans. I mean, they're cut. You have the knees hanging out, but no, she's beautiful. She's precious.

Being a mama is my favorite thing in the world. Is it really? Yeah, hands down. I mean, I knew I wanted to be a mom since I was a little kid. Really? Yeah, I always said I was going to adopt a kid. I'm going to be a mom. Um, the auditions, everything that doesn't matter as much anymore now than I'm a mom.

What do you, uh, what do you, what do you want now? Do you want to continue music? Acting, but I want to do it all. Like, I still want to be able to put music out to Instagram people and whoever wants to listen, but I'd love to just get on the steady show, support my child. Just enjoy. Yeah. But my goal, like, I don't even care. People are like, oh, I would never want to be on like a procedural. I'm like, sign me up. Like something like, and so I can do maybe a movie a year that doesn't pay anything, but it's. So, you know, like, so you. So you, You just want to, you're one of those actors who just, you just want to, you want to work. I want to support my kid.

You want to make money. I want to support my kid. You want to support your kid. But can't you support your kid? I got to work. I mean, haven't you made good money? Sure, but I mean, it goes when you don't work for a while. Are you a spender?

No, I spend money on my daughter, but not on myself. But she doesn't need that much. I have one, what's that called, like a designer bag? Is that it right there? No, this is a cheap Target bag. Is that really from Target? Yeah. That's a target bag.

That's a really good target bag. Thank you. How much is this target bag? I don't know. I got it from my girlfriend. She put it in gift bags or whatever. You don't do drugs. You don't drink.

You're a love addict. You're working on that. You want to slowly... You're a work in progress. Do you go to therapy twice a week? No, once a week. Once a week. Sometimes every other.

Is your therapist? I'm guessing she's a woman and her name is Janice. No. No. No. She's from England. She is. She's like,

lovely. I'm curious, Jenna, how that makes you feel? And I was like, well, how do you think it makes me feel, Nicole? I don't like, I don't like when therapists kind of let you. I always feel like there's this like dramatic pause and I'm like, I better say something. Well, that's what they want. The pausing, that's when they, when there's silence in the room and it makes you uncomfortable and you start talking. That's what they feed on. Then I'm like, oh my God, I'm just talking right now. Just talk to me. Give me the answers. They can't give you answers. But then why are we paying so much money because yeah they're objective they're not on one side or the other don't you want somebody like i would love somebody to go michael here's what i want you to do your best friend your mom those

people are what they tell you to do oh no no no no no my family's fine i don't listen to anything about to my family none of my family can give me advice that's the fucking rule so are you not close to your mom i love my mother i love my father i love my sister i love my brother i love everybody but a lot of my family i don't want advice from Yeah, I don't want advice from someone that I've helped out a lot. Yeah, yeah. Or still. I don't want advice from people who never take my advice.

I get that. I don't want advice from people who don't know me. I want advice from people who really care about me and will be there for me. Sweet. I'll be there for you. If you want objective advice, you call me. I'll be there for you. Because I've done enough therapy.

I can help you. I love, I honestly thought about getting my license. Well, here's the problem, gentlemen. let me i had a the late carrie fisher i hate to drop names but she was one of my best friends and yes and uh she gave the best fucking advice you could ever give on the award she went to years and years and years of therapy she wrote books um she uh postcards from the edge the movie the book that she she knew everything like her advice was so sound so profound so just uh deep and real and and easily understood

but she didn't follow her own the advice that she got. She gave great advice. She had great therapy but she didn't always take that therapy. She didn't listen to her therapist. What did she say? Turned a broken heart into art? Is that what she said? I love that. Turn a broken heart into art. She had tons of those quotes. She was honestly one of the most, probably the most brilliant person I've ever known.

To the point where she'd say things and I go, Carrie, I don't understand what you just said. She'd go, you're an idiot. But what I'm saying is that just make sure this gets to the point in the the The uh the the uh the uh what's your tattoo by the way right this is my sister her name's lea may well you love her enough to tattoo her well my dad it was it second marriage it was his second daughter and she's really sick she's born sick so i did this for my dad again for not sort of approval but sort of respect saying hey dad i know you're going through a hard time i can't even imagine i got this is why i did it and then this is my grandmother ruthie and my grandma they're blanche. Aw. Blanco, yeah.

That's sweet. Which, it says Blanco, because I call her Benny Blanco from the Bronx, but people, I guess if you're Hispanic, you look at it, you're like, Blanco, that's white, man. Why do you have white on your arm? This has become therapy. It always is for everybody who's on it. We always do this. So I sort of, like, become your therapist for a moment.

No. Listen, I'm going to say, I'm going to evaluate you based on this podcast. I'm going to eat my plantage chips. And then you're going to evaluate me. Okay. that's easy okay oh i'm sorry rob do you want me to start do you want to start no i'll go second because i want to see what you say about me i think you are incredibly open yeah which is a huge huge gift and i i commend you for it no no there's no butts here these are these are compliments

you're beautiful you're charming you're smart you know who you are i think you're a great i think you're a great mother just from what you've talked about i think you're down the earth i think you had to grow up really fast i think your parents divorce probably obviously impacted you and it's the cause for that whole daddy issue i want to be in love i want to be married i want the older guy i want all this i want to live happily ever after and you have a propensity for going out with the wrong fucking guys and you know this and unfortunately unfortunately this is where the butt is because all these are great things there's nothing wrong with you jana except this no matter what even though you'll say i'm not going after a guy who does this or this or this for some reason some guy gets to you or you're attracted to his

big muscles or his tattooed leg with a ram on it or something provocative or whatever it is and you fall for it and you do it repeatedly and I want you to be careful because you deserve the best and you you want the best and the only way to do that is to really condition yourself and be patient and also you have a long life ahead of you you don't need to jump into things you need to look out for your daughter work on your career play music love life and someone will slowly come into your life like a little drop of water they're like oh my gosh is it raining not yet but it could it's just a sprinkle or maybe it was off that guy's windshield wiper when he drove by i don't know but i'm not going to anticipate rain yet this could be the worst analogy ever now i'd like you to talk

about me i'm going to keep it short um i think you have major commitment issues you don't know me why would you say that just the vibe i get that's absolutely that's true that's not true oh my god your bestie just said it was true first of all rob's on my bestie he's a good friend well a good friend all jana i you have commitment issues no i don't no you have like the opposite don't try turn this around on me just because you're defensive over i'm not defensive i'm not defensive my therapist even said michael you tried you want to be in a relationship i have worked hard I've been there where I don't want to just be with someone unless I'm really in love.

I get it. And I watch my parents in the dysfunction and my mom's flirting and all the... Here's the thing I think you're hanging on to that way too much. But I don't. I really want a relationship. No, but you're hanging onto your parents' baggage for your commitment issues. Go ahead. I'll give you therapy.

Go ahead. Give me therapy. I'm not going to argue with my therapist. No, that's it. You're holding on too much to your parents' stuff, which is why you're taking it on as your own baggage and your issues, and that's why you have your commitment issues. All right. Can you start with some compliments?

I went through all these compliments and then gave you one thing wrong with you, and you turn it around and say, one bad thing. There's nothing good about me. No, I don't want to hear it. I know what's good about me. I think you're brilliant. Do you? You think I'm brilliant?

Yeah. I think you're a really good guy. You'll be a great dad. You'll be a good husband. Really? But you have issues. Jana Kramer, this has been... It's been so fun.

It really has. Thank you for allowing me to be inside of you. You're welcome. Was it good for you? Because it was good for me. What else? That's about all I have. Jana, what's your Instagram?

Kramer Girl. Kramer Girl. What about Twitter? Kramer Girl. Both Kramer Girls. Those weren't taken. You got those. I was like should not...

Kramer Girl sounds so high school. I mean, it's Kramer Girl. That's been great. And any music they can listen to Dammit. It's on YouTube. And iTunes. Check that out. What about acting?

Um, shoot. You're looking for something? Looking for something? I'd audition your ass. Thanks, babe. Why wouldn't I? I'd love an audition. Bye.

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