Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Ep 7: Kristen Bell

Episode Date: May 22, 2018

Kristen Bell (The Good Place, Veronica Mars, Frozen, Bad Moms) is one half of Hollywood’s most powerful couple. Kristen talks to me about her relationship with Dax, and the time he drop kicked a guy after he threw a big gulp at their car. Then she opens up about her depression and anxiety - how she recommends trying to change your physical regimen before going right to medicine. She also explains to me that Rob is actually my boss and how lost I’d be without him. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum. I'm Michael Rosenbaum. Yeah, we've got an announcement to make today, right? This is a very exciting announcement, folks. Ana Ferris and SimSorna, their, what would you call it, their show slash their? Yeah, we're joining the unqualified family. Well, I wanted to announce that. Well, I just did it.

Well, I was asking you for words. Yeah, how to announce it, and I just gave you it. So, yeah, we're, thank you, Rob. Rob, is this inside of you with Rob Hollis? Yes. It is. Anyway, we're really excited, guys. With all sincerity, we're joining Unqualified.

We're under their umbrella. They believed in the show. And, you know, Sim and Anna have been really instrumental. But mostly Anna. Mostly Anna. Because Sim has no pull. No. And we want to say thank you to Unqualified, truly.

Because honestly, Sim called me up and said, you know, we love the show. and it's genuine and it's gritty and it's it's real and it's Howard Stern-like which I'm like you know I don't even compare myself but it's just very it was a compliment I really appreciate it it's nice to have someone believe in you as we all know yeah and they're gonna help get our show out into the world so we'll see if people more people listen to it and we really appreciate you listening today is an incredible guest it's probably one of the biggest guests we've had it's the biggest guest we've had Kristen Bell is our guest today and let me tell you something if you've heard an interview with her you haven't heard it this is completely different. The one we do with her, I do with her, is just so genuine and so, she was taking it back because she didn't,

she's never gone so in depth about her anxiety and depression and all these things. And there's a really cool thing where I could have been with her. I introduced Dax to her and she said I could have been Mr. Kristen Bell.

Yeah. How do you think that would have worked out if you guys started dating? I would have failed. Would you have? I would have been so insecure that I'm dating such a pretty girl and she would have felt that and she would have got the upper hand and i would have been like cat

and mouse thing i'd be always the mouse or the cat chasing the mouse do you do you get jealous if you if you're i don't ever get shot or wife was an actress no i'm not like that no i've had actresses as as uh companions and and you know but i just never i'm not i'm not a jealous guy i just think you know there's some women that are um i'm beneath and she was she was one of them i mean there's a lot of women that I'm beneath. I think that I I I'm kind of funny sometimes and I can be charming but you know I you know Dax is more of a manly man you know I thought she's a little out of my league but you know and that's maybe why I didn't even think about giving a chance because she gave me her number and she like and then I walked away she said oh you weren't interested which will hear in the interview and then supposedly Dax she needed someplace to spit her gum and Dax put it in his hand gross and then they're married so you could have been that hand. Meanwhile, yeah. Meanwhile, I was like hitting on some bartender at the fucking Staples. TGI Fridays. I was young. I was a kid. Now I'm mature. You know. You turned out all right. Yeah, you know, I'm working on myself. And, you know, we talk a lot about stuff that you guys know, if you guys have been listening. These episodes really are about us and kind of, you know, how these people sort of relate to everyone, even though they make millions and millions of dollars.

Kristen Bell, she's on the podcast. I guess that's all I've got to say, Rob. Yeah, let's get inside of Kristen Bell. That's another thing that I usually say, but you said it. Sorry. Okay. It's my point of view. You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum.

Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. My dog somehow, Kristen Bell, Kristen Annie Bell, thank you for allowing me to be inside of you today. We have Jessica bringing her some green tea to give you some caffeine. Love it. My dog, Irv, good to see you guys. Herbie, if you'll exit. Irby, do you want to stay here? No, no, he'll sniff and beg and wine.

Well, how's that any different from what you're doing? Yeah, pretty much story of my life, and we're right into it. So we were talking to Kristen here. Now, you've been with X11 years? Mm-hmm. We'll get to when you guys sort of met because I was there. Yeah. Yeah.

Fucking right. I was. Do you remember what happened? Well, I also have a terrible memory, so I'm sure you remember more. You do not have a terrible memory. Like lines and shit, you're wonderful. No, no, but that takes up all the space in my brain. Everything else is like what I ate for breakfast this morning, the exact context of a situation.

I was in full vacations that I've taken. Go away. They're completely erased from my memory so I can do dialogue. So you're not a Mary Lou Hennert kind of type. Well, Mike, I'm the polar opposite. I start, well, we'll get into how we met. In the beginning with Dax, because I've known Daxe a long time. And when I was with him, you know, we did drugs and things like that.

I didn't do a lot of drugs. I'm not making excuses for myself. He could tell you I wasn't a drug. Michael, you were wild. I was a little wild, but I wasn't like him. Michael, women are drugs. What does that mean? Everything's a drug.

I don't know why he said women are drugs, though. I mean, he's doing a lot of women. Rob, don't chime in on this. I'm just, yeah. No, Rob, Rob, you feel free to talk whenever you want you. First time he chimes in. It's about, yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah, you guys were wild.

I know that. Wild, but we weren't like... You weren't smoking crack by yourself like he was. Yes, that's the differentiation. I think we were good, you know, I say good guys. I mean like, you know, we were nice, boys, of course. We were nice, but we liked girls. Yes, of course.

But we weren't like groopers or anything. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, oh, I'm sorry. That's not what I meant. Well, women are not drug. They're, they're a drug. That kind of made me. No, I just meant, no, I'm so sorry. That was not my intention.

You guys, you were in your 20s and you were living life. 30s. Yeah, 30s. Oh, yeah. I'm a little older than Dax, a little more immature, very much immature now, especially. The difference with Dax and I is I would, we'd come home from a night of partying and he'd say, hey, bud, you got Xanax. And he's Zaners.

Yeah, sure. And I'd say, yeah, I've got a couple, you know, for my back, you know. And I would take like a half of Xanax and I go to bed and he's like, hey, you want to stay up, man, maybe go ride my motorcycle. I'm like, yeah, that doesn't sound like a good idea. I'm not going to do that. And then I'd wake up and all the Xanax were gone. and Dax was gone, and my fridge, all the beers were gone.

And I'm like, that's an addiction. That's something I don't have. And I acknowledge that. I like to have fun, but I also have, like, a control thing. I don't want to be out of control. I've always had that. So what I'm saying is when you guys met and you started dating the beginning, you were seeing at least a lot of the Dax.

I was seeing, or remnants of that. Yeah. That had to be hard. Oh, very. So how did you even get through that? Well, first of all, he's infinitely charming. And he kept me. Of course.

Yes. He kept me laugh. laughing. But I will say this. I had a lot of fears when we first started dating because he had a very wild past. And the difference between an addict and someone who just enjoys drugs and alcohol is that the moment any one of those things enter their system, they no longer have the ability to make decisions correctly. So whereas you could say, yeah, I want a Xanax. Maybe I even want to want two, but I want to need to wake up in the morning and I'm probably not going to ride my motorcycle. He cannot. If he has one sip of beer, there is a different person behind the wheel of it.

his brain. So I didn't necessarily understand that. And also he talked about all these crazy stories of like when, you know, this happened or he missed three days and he bought a, you know, whatever, he missed Christmas or all these crazy sort of drug and alcohol related stories. And he told them as though he was telling, you know, a fun story about a, you know, a cool dinner with his parents. And it, and it scared the shit out of me because there was no, That was crazy. I'd never do that again. And then we went to therapy about it, because as you know, we love therapy. And I said, it really scares me when you tell those stories. And he said, I'm not doing anything wrong by telling a story. Also, I'm sharing intimate details of my life with you. And our therapist, who's also sober, said, I can tell you what's missing for her. You're telling how it was then, but you're not saying how it is now. And she needs one sentence at the end of each of these three-day drug bender hilarious. stories by the way to say but you know what that was crazy i'd never do that again and i just needed that little cherry on the top to feel comfortable with him sharing all these like crazy grisly

also very funny details you know like when he jumped out of the car and he had to shit and on the side of the road and like in traffic like all that stuff and then i'm just hearing this cool boyfriend i have say that and then he's not recognizing that that's an insane behavior it didn't make me feel like I was connected to it. Well, I remember early on when you were dating, there was one thing at the traffic light where the guy threw a milkshake at the car. And then he kind of got, yeah, you didn't like that moment. I mean, first of all, who would like that moment?

This transient or just, Bozo was in the middle of Sunset Boulevard and he was holding his big gulp. And now, mind you, I'm sure Dax was not. He instigated going the speed limit. No, he didn't instigate, but I'm sure he was going five miles over the speed limit. Wasn't he inching up to the crosswalk because this guy was taking his time? No, actually. Well, again, I don't have a great memory, but what I remember is that he was sort of just going down Sunset Boulevard, maybe a little zippy, I'd say, and the guy was in the

center turn lane, and the guy had decided at that moment, Dax was going too fast, and he whipped his big gulp at the windshield, which, by the way, is a felony to mess with a moving car. Before I even blinked, he had thrown the car in park. He was at a... out of the car in the middle of the road, grabbed this guy, and they got into a major scuffle on the side of the road. They were kicking each other. I think he gave a Daniel Laruso to him.

Didn't he give him a drop kick or something? He kicked him in the head. Right. Yeah. Yes. By the way, the guy wasn't some small, like the guy was angry. He was royd raging.

He was, like, fighting back. He was punching Dax. This was not Dax just beating someone up. This was Dax attempting to sort of stop a bully. That said, I don't condone any of it. Right. But who won that fight? Would nobody really?

No, I guess it was sort of even, although the guy did sort of cower because two people came up and saw the fight. I'm, by the way, still sitting in Sunset Boulevard with the driver's side door open. Seapult on. Always. Very cautious. Okay. Click it or ticket, Michael. So I'm sitting in Sunset Boulevard and he's beating this guy up.

And the whole thing takes, I don't know, maybe a minute and 30 seconds. And then two people walk up and say, I know you, you're Dax Shepherd. And the guy, because he's smart and wily and, like, frivolous lawsuits, immediately started cowering and going, I'm going to sue you, I'm going to see you, and then took the last, like, bit of the fight, just like cowering so that he could have a claim that Dax beat him up. Did Dax keep laying in at that point? No, no, no, no, no, Dax stopped.

He wasn't like being revengeful. I mean, he might have taken the last hit, for sure. But all of Dax's aggression comes out of beating up a bully. It's all in defense of someone else. Sure. He doesn't like that. It's difficult for me to talk about. about because I don't condone any of it. But then when I see his reasons, it's like, I guess you

do need people to fight for the underdog. So cut to, it became a very big thing. And the guy did try to sue. And the police department called and everyone wanted a report on it. And then it was basically that came down to the fact that the guy was going to take Dax to court for a misdemeanor, which was like assault and battery. And then Dax said, well, then I can take you to court for a felony, which is messing with a moving car. And the guy dropped it. And that was it. And that was it. Is there something sexy about watching your boyfriend at the time beat a guy up? Not to me. Beat a bully up.

Well, thinking about my boyfriend beating a bully up, yes, I'll say that's slightly sexual. Right. Watching it happen in real life. It's hard to watch a fire. And watching someone else's baby because even though that guy was a dipstick, he wasn't a great guy. But that doesn't mean he wasn't someone's baby. That doesn't mean he wasn't celebrated with a cigar when he got home. And I think about when I look at fights, I think about the people's parents and the fact that someone could actually die.

and how stupid it is that we argued about everything. No, I didn't. I'll tell you how I handled it because it was boss. All right. I didn't say a goddamn thing. We can swear, right? I hope so. I didn't say a thing.

We were going to dinner with our agents, which by the way, we never do. You still went? Ten years, yeah. He got in the car. I didn't say a thing because he knew. He knew how I felt about the thing. You were disappointed.

Yeah. Oh, he knew. And I didn't need to say anything. We got to the restaurant. Was he bleeding at the restaurant? No, but he was limping. His shin really, really hurt because he had kicked this guy's skull. I can't imagine how the guy's skull felt.

I mean, just to think about the whole picture here. We sat down at the table. I didn't mention a single thing. He was like stretching out his knuckles because his hands hurt. And about two minutes into the meal, I excused myself to go to the restroom. And I went into the kitchen and I got him a bag of ice. And I came back and I held it sort of like behind my buns. And then I sat down and just put it on the,

bottom of his knee at the table. That is so cute. So I basically said, that's really sweet. I said with those actions, because the problem is I use too many words. Sometimes women in general use too many words. Rarely men, I think. This is just to be stereotypical. We're cavemen. We just say, yeah. That. Exactly. You just point and grunt. I didn't, I wasn't going to get anywhere with words. Wouldn't do anything. So I knew I needed an action. And my, the ice action said, I will take care of you always but don't you ever fucking beat anyone up in front of me or not in front of me again this is the last time was that the last time yeah i remember he had a he sort of wanted to beat up one of your neighbors well the funny thing about that is we were just talking about this

because yes he got into a uh sort of swearing conversation if you will a loud conversation with our neighbor when we moved into this house we're currently in. And we just bought a house around the corner. And it's a hot dump. It's like full of mold. It's like underwater. It's crumbling. But we're like, you know what?

It's on a nice big backyard. Let's do it. He has already gotten into a swearing loud conversation with a neighbor. And we bought it two months ago. I avoid confrontation at all costs. I just don't like it. And there's something about, and I commend Dax. There's two parts of me.

I feel like, God, he's got balls. He's more of a man than I am. No. Because he could do that. And then part of him, he's like, I mean, just let that go. Yeah. There's both. Both are true.

I feel like you encounter these things on a weekly basis. Oh, yeah. This spices things up. What can Dax do now? What can K. Bell do now? No, because I think we're categorizing him into some sort of like aggressive, like he fights with everyone. Oh, no. He doesn't.

He has stimulating arguments. a lot. Yeah, I could see that. And you know that. I do. Yeah. I remember one time I, I don't know, it was an immature thing, but I remember catching a fart perhaps in my hand.

Sure. And throwing at him. Yeah. You can throw farts. Sure. And I don't know what it is. Maybe it's nerves. I tend to fart a lot.

They mostly don't smell, but I threw a fart at Dax once. And he looked at me and he says, if you ever do that again, I'm going to punch you right in your face. And I looked at him. He was dead serious. He goes, I don't care if you fart, but you're not going to throw it in my face. You're not going to do that. What I'd like you to do is when one's brewing, I want you to go up to him.

Make sure he's paying attention. I want you to pretend like you just threw it in his face. I will do that. And can I tell you I already know his reaction? He will love it so much because- I disagree. I don't think he will. I'd like to make a bet on this.

Out of me, though, he would. Oh, like a sweet little flower fart than opposed to him. Yes, because he thinks it's very funny when I have gasy because he doesn't have an, you know, you should check your probiotic levels. You should drink a little bit more of taboochia. I'm taking a super pro with a billion, I think. think of those. Oh, okay. Well, then that should be helping you. Although sometimes if you eat more vegetables, you know, that roughage. If you cook, if you cook your food, that sort of pre-digests it

for you. That may lower the gas. Also, if you eat any sort of beans and stuff or nuts, even, they have like a coating on them that makes gassy. Legumes. I've been having a lot of legumes lately. Well, that's the gas problem. Is that the correct word? Legumes? Legumes, yeah. Rob? Yeah, that's right. Do you know how we met? Let's go back to that real quick. He met, you'll probably remember, but I think at a C.W. party? I don't remember that that could be, though. Maybe it was. That I actually know that I'm thinking about it, definitely remember.

It definitely happened. Because it was you and Tom. Tom Welling. Uh-huh. And I had just started Veronica Mars, and we were at some, like, TCA Party. Was it nice? Very. In fact, you and Tom started talking to me, and you told me how pretty I was.

was, and I walked away smiling the whole night. I was like, I just went to a party. I could be married to Kristen Bell right now. And this boy told me I was so pretty. This handsome boy told me I was so pretty. I do remember it. Here's the thing, though. It gets convoluted in the scenes that happened after.

With the dachs of it all? Yes. So that happened. That did. Yeah, but that's a very interesting story because there are a lot of different. What? Well. A lot of different what?

So. We flirted at that party. Okay. And then after... I'm glad you said that because I had a feeling you'd just say, oh, I didn't even know you were flirting with me. Go ahead. What are you talking about? Well, your memory.

I'm a self-well, that's true, but I'm a very self-aware. Look, I know when people are throwing me rhythm. I mean... I've got rhythm. Yes. So, I've seen you like a couple times since then, maybe. And then... Yeah, yeah.

We went to the... We were both at the Red Wings Kings game. That is correct. Right? And I brought Dax. Yes. And I saw you. And I was newly single.

And I said, I'm going to go talk to Michael. And then you were very busy talking about hockey. And you introduced me to Dax. And then Dax started talking to me. And then Dax took my gum. And I was like, all right. I'm going to date this guy. And then, I don't even know if you know this straight.

I think you gave me your number. Yeah. Of course. Well, listen, I wanted to keep all options on the table. But no, you gave me your number, I feel, because you wanted to give it to Dax. Mm-mm. I wanted to give it to both of you. Okay.

I honestly thought you were out of my league, and I didn't even make it at an attempt. I tried to play the slow game. Like, hey, maybe she'll think if I, if I, if I, if I talked to her a couple of more times at the next CW event, the dubba-dubba. No. You know, and I'm like, hey, Veronica. And you're like, hey, Lex, what's up? Can I be honest? You were, I don't think you were emotionally ready for me at that point.

I don't think I'm. I wasn't going to fuck around. Yeah. No, you're not the girl that fucks around. No. No, I looked at you like... I'm going to have fun, but I was like... Yeah, your marriage material.

Hence, you're married. But that's... What do you look at me for, Rob? You would have screwed it up. What? You would have screwed it up. I don't know if I would have screwed up. You were a little immature.

I'm still a little bit of cute. Of course. Yeah. And are you married? No. Listen, man. Let's talk about you, Michael. You know what?

This will become about therapy because it is. I'm trying to make me better. I'm trying to get a better me here. And by listening to you and listening to other guests, their flaws and their, you know, just the mistakes they've made and seeing that people aren't perfect because that was sort of my next thing. You look at you in Dax. It was always like, fuck. Now he's dating Kristen Bell.

Oh, my God. That was always my crush. That was my crush. And then he eventually directed this movie. He's like, Rosie, I want you to play Kristen's ex-boyfriend who's a douche. God, damn it! Hit and run, go see it. And it was just like this perpetual, like, not rubbing your face because I love you and

you're like a friend. I don't even like, you know what I mean? It's like, but it was just so, in the beginning, I was like, I remember telling my friend Chris, you know, back then I was like, oh man, Kristen Bell. She's so cute, so perfect. You did, you know, look. It's okay. You make mistakes.

You make mistake. Everything happens for a reason. Sure. Okay. We're going to find you a great girl. But do you know the second portion of this story? Has Dax told you the second portion of the story? I don't know if he has.

Yes. Yes, where I text you? No, but I texted you first. So, we, Dax and I dated for like two months and... He called me one day and goes, hey, bud. Yeah. You talking to K-Bow? Text her?

We dated for, we dated for like two months and he broke up with me. Stupidest decision he's ever made. So maybe I thought in. No, no. I didn't. I didn't think like that. I don't do that. No, you did not do it.

I did it. So we broke up and we broke up for four days. Why did you do that? Why did you text me? First of all, because Dax had just done something very stupid, but in his defense, it wasn't stupid. We were on the road to something serious, and he said, I want to be very responsible with you because I really respect you. I'm still dating other people. Because at the two-month mark, you're sort of like, have you cut everything off?

You know, when he was dating other people, he also said, like, this is moving faster than I want it to simply because I just got out of a relationship. I'm just not sure my headspace is there. In retrospect, I realized how respectful that was, even though it broke my heart at the time. He wasn't going to continue to sort of date me like a real relationship and then have other dates on the side. So he broke up with me. I was devastated. But then the next day, I grabbed my bootstraps and I was like, I am 27 years old. This is my time.

I want to party. I want to know what love is. So I texted you. And I was like, hey, Michael, what's up? And, like, said, do you want to grab dinner or something? Or maybe just started to do something coy. Maybe a brunch. Yeah.

And then you responded, but the texts took, like, three days, right? As they do. You don't, like, make plans that night in a text. And then Dax came back to me four days later and said, I made a terrible decision. I would like to continue dating you. I'm going to cut things off with the other girls because I want to see where this goes because the last four days have been agony like I made the wrong decision. But then I had still instigated this text date with you.

And then you ghost me. No, but then you said to Dax something about KB texted me. And of course, Dax knows me like the back of his palm. So he was like, holy shit. I broke up with her. And the next day she texted one of my friends to go out on a date. And I was like, yeah, bro, you broke up with me. You don't make the rules after that point.

So what do you do? I go after your bro. That's what I'm doing. That's what I'm going. gonna do. I'm put you through K help. But also because I was like, I met Michael first and I was like, also, you don't control, if you break up with me, you do not control who I date. Does it matter if you're friends with them?

We were dating. It wasn't like we were dating for 10 years. It was two months. Maybe seven and a half weeks. Look, you haven't had a fling with someone and then, like, also dated someone else and they were both like really small relationships and those girls happened to know each other. That's the equivalent. So anyways, Dax thought it was. offensive and funny and he got insecure and then he laughed and then he loved it and don't I get some bro love for actually texting Dax that hey this happened yeah you didn't do I could look on my phone to see if those texts are still there oh my god would they be no I don't think I have those texts yeah so that's the story really and then he still mentions

sometimes oh that time we he says we broke up which I think is comical because we did not break up he broke up with me he's like that time we broke up and then you try to date Rosie and I'm like yeah that's that's the fact well first of all I mean this is 11 years ago so it does you know right now I'm feeling a little uh what's the word I feel uncomfortable no the opposite I feel like comfortable I got game you do 11 years ago I didn't see that but now I'm thinking hey Kristen Bell first of all I was like a child compared to the women that you were dating You sing I date older women? No, but I just mean like you were dating like babes.

You always date babes. I mean, no, no, no. That's not a category. That's from when I meet them. I always think like, oh, this girl is beautiful and she's a great personality. Like, if we would ever, you know what I mean? I know. I'm just, I'm an idiot.

I want, like, I want to find someone. Look, this asshole right here is 28 years old. He already has a kid and is married. 28. 29. 29. I know, but look how adorable he is. He is adorable.

He is the cutest person ever. But it's like, I feel like, fuck, man. You know, here I am. I couldn't. had Kristen Bell 11 years ago. I think I always talk about this, but I do want a woman who's smarter than me, which is not hard. That's easy, right?

Someone who will do the kids math and science and things like that, because I don't think I could do it because I was the dumb one. You know, I always felt like that. I do date some pretty women, but they have to have both things. They just can't be pretty. Oh, yeah. And that's not what I'm... And that's hard to find, like a perfect...

They have all, everything. So number one, your standards are too high. Too high. Okay. I got to stop that. Yeah. Number two... And I'm still getting old now.

So, you know what? stop it. I need to really fucking stop that. Yeah, for real. But the other thing is really more important that, look, everyone who lives out here who you're going to encounter in these circles that you would date listens to Larry Mantle on NPR once in a while. They're smart people, okay? There's a good crop of people to be able to meet out there. I think you hang out with smarter people than I do. Maybe, but I'll tell you this. That's because I crave people that enjoy interesting debates, hence Deck Shepherd. But I'll tell you the most important thing that you need to look for in a relationship is someone who is willing to grow.

and you are willing to grow alongside. It doesn't really matter any of the other stuff. It matters if you enjoy them, and obviously you want to be attracted to them. But that's going to ebb and flow throughout your relationship because you stop producing those dopamine hormones after a couple years and then you're going to feel like, oh, my God, I want to fuck everyone but you.

But then, like, a month later, you're like, oh, my God, I'm such an idiot. You are the greatest light in my life. And it just ebbs and flows. That's what I want. I want to look at someone and go, I just can't live without you. Yeah, but first of all, lower,

your expectations because that will not be the sentence you say every morning. I did not say that about Jack Shepard when I left the house. This morning. I thought I want to get away from you right now. And I'm going to the gardening store, which is what I did. I dropped the kids off at school and I went to sunset garden nursery and I just said, I don't want to think about it. But you have to find someone that's willing to learn extra tools because no, you'll never find someone perfect. You just need to find someone that is willing to grow with you and is committed to that growth. Because no, Nobody will do it perfectly. You won't.

She won't. But if you can sort of go to therapy or start to understand each other and change your behaviors based on what makes the other person less triggered, that's the key. I go to therapy. I go to behavioral therapy now, cognitive behavioral therapy, to try and have positive thoughts more often. How do you like it? I've heard a lot about it.

I do like it. It's, you know, there's little changes. There's like in me already. Like, for instance, there's just, you know, in my mind, it goes back to, you know, when I was a kid and I'm not smart enough I can't do it I can't I'm not going to be great I'm not going to be you know and I and I'm like why do I why you've been successful you've done things that are great use that moment what's healthy is when you do something you work hard and then you're great at it you should be like I can do that you shouldn't keep the cyclical fucking

thing that's going on we're like oh back to not being great not feeling great can't do it so there's like that whole thing and so this helps me I do little things like there's a little piece of paper that says, hey, three positive things. I open my eyes in the morning. I see that. And I go positive. You know, I got my beautiful dog and my assistant's cool. You know, Rob over here.

He's a nice guy. But you're, all your naming are external forces. That's true. But there's also things you could do like to mindfulness. Yeah. I'm really straight. I know anybody listening out there. Listen, trust me, I'm the guy that's always been like, fuck, don't do it.

You know, this meditation and the bullshit. It's voodoo. It's bullshit. I know, but I love it so much. It's not. It feels so good. I wake up. And if I don't meditate for 15 minutes, let me tell you something.

When I say meditate, I go to this thing called Insight Timer or whatever and it has a guided meditation. I'm very basic. And I press play and this woman goes, hello, and she starts talking. And it's soothing. And she guides me through this so my mind doesn't wander too much. And it's okay to wander. And at the end of it, if I don't do that in the day, I don't feel well. Well, it's not a reflection on you being.

sick or needing something, which I think is a lot of what people think this sort of hippie meditation is. It's a reflection on currently we have too many devices. We have so much multitasking. And your brain gets cluttered just like a, you know, a hoarder's house. And so you will constantly feel like you're in a hoarder's house because of the amount of things we're exposed to the amount. Think about it when we just had telephones. How did you make an appointment? How did you make any sort of a deal for your job you just had to get to a landline like what people didn't need it as much back then but now everyone's brain feels like an episode of hoarders and the meditation stuff because we do transcendental meditation it just helps calm you down a little bit how often do you meditate oh god

i haven't done in weeks months maybe what the fuck you just told me yeah but i because well first of all i have a three and a five year old that's not a fucking joke but don't you have to just make time for yourself yes i do but uh you know i do like you know i do like Like, I'll decide, like, do I want to get my nails done or do I want to meditate? Let me ask you some. I look at you and I read stuff and I know stuff, like you suffer from depression, anxiety, ADD, ADHD. I don't think so. Okay.

Overly empathetic, but that's sort of in tandem with the, yeah. But I got, this is a sickness I had. This isn't good. I got excited to hear you had these things. Oh, it's not a sickness. That's not a sickness. That's a craving for connection and acceptance. And by the way, that's why I talk about it.

Because please. That's why I talk about it because I felt it was irresponsible for me to present a very bubbly package that talks about kale and meditation and all these fucking things we should all be doing and not talk about the messiness that is my real human life, which is I suffer from anxiety and depression. I fight with my husband a lot. But you know what? Anal worms.

Jesus Christ, the fucking pinworms in my house. Why do they call them anal worms? They're pinworms, but they come out of your anus, right? Yeah, yeah. They are, you can either breathe in or ingest their eggs if you have a filthy feral child like I do. Delta gave them to you. Yes, they put their hands in their butt and then in your mouth. Maybe that's why Dax didn't like me throwing farts at him.

Perhaps. That's the old pinworm thing. They're throwing eggs at them. And then they lay eggs in the folds of your anus. Enous. Yeah. And then in each worm can lay 20,000 eggs, which is why they're very difficult to get rid of. And you had these.

Oh, yeah. And you had to have, like, a parasitic cleanse? Yeah. I had them once six weeks ago with Delta as well. And you'll have to, like, take this chalky substance from the drugstore. Do you feel different when you have them? No. Your butt-hitches.

A butt-hole itching. Yes. Your anus, the inous. Correct. And I'm not, I don't suffer from that. And I said to Dax, do you think you have it? And he said, what are the symptoms? I said, your butt is going to be itchy.

He said, I've had it for 40 years. Itchy anus. Yes. And I said, no. So he was out. But you have to dose everyone in the family with this little medicine. Yeah, Delta had it and I had it like six weeks ago, except I didn't know you had to dose twice. So then we got it again last week, me and Lincoln and Delta.

I don't think Dax again because he's just normally itchy. So then everyone in the family redosed. So sorry. Okay, go back. So when I said, by the way, before you start this, I talked about, I got excited about your depression. I don't want people to think I'm a sicker, like, aha, she's depressed. No, I don't think I have a little depression. I think everybody suffers from a little depression.

I suffer from anxiety a little bit. I suffer from these things. And I don't tell anybody because I find it embarrassing. I was on set. I was doing a role. I was the lead role in the show called Impaster. And I thought I was having a heart attack.

And I called a doctor. And I said, yeah, I just don't feel well. And then privately in the trailer, my assistant Troy was there at the time. And I go, because Michael, have you ever had anxiety? And I looked at Troy and go, don't you tell anybody about this fucking conversation. Because I was like, I don't want people to think it was an anxiety attack.

It's such baloney. I know. Why? Why? Because I don't want people to think that I'm, I'm, what's the word? I'm weak. I don't think admitting a mistake and working through it or conquering a roadblock is weak.

I think of the opposite. But I want to conquer it, but I don't want everybody to know. Well, obviously. Well, they know now. I'm saying it. Who cares if everyone knows. Okay. You're like a lovely, fun, handsome man.

Who cares if you have a flaw or two? Like everyone's going to get over themselves. Okay, fine. But that's why I started talking about it because, It's just not fair or fun or realistic for us to be afraid of all these little secrets that are everywhere. It's like what are we hiding from? Who are we trying to impress? I was getting anxiety when you came today.

So say to me, I had a lot of anxiety for you coming today. And then I'll say, why, Michael? And you'll say, well, I didn't think it was going to be a good interview. Or I was nervous to talk about Dax because we're talking about a third party who we both care about who's not here. Will he like it? Now I'm getting anxiety. No, don't get anxiety. about these things because I didn't think of those things oh but just talk about it

nothing should be a stigma I do and I talk about it this show inside of you with Michael Rosen mom he's become we didn't know what it was it was just like you know he was this asshole Rob was like hey get a fucking podcast I'm like I don't know which is great because now Dax he does daxes he does all my friends want information about it and he's great but we're pulling Rob apart at the limbs yeah but we didn't know what it was going to be and then all of a sudden it's like this is therapy for me this has become therapy for me and my listeners I think that's why people love podcasts because you're able to sit alone in your car or have an intimate, listen eavesdrop on an intimate

conversation while you yourself are feeling intimate. You're not watching Netflix with a big group of people. And you can process people talking. And generally in these rooms, this will lend itself to a more intimate conversation. Because the only people here are you, me, and Rob. So you're going to get me to talk about more intimate topics than if we were at a soundstage and I had hair and makeup and we were all, you know what I mean? And I think people talking and communicating and showing likeness to one another is what the most important thing is. Like, say, I am just like you. I suffer from that.

There are days I don't want to get out of bed. I have fucking anal worms too. I don't have them. Well, we don't know. We don't know. We could check the toilet afterwards. You might after I leave here, depending on how many surfaces I touch. She just winked.

What a nice subtle wing. I'm not contagious anymore. I don't care. If I get them, I'll get them. You know, so I want to ask you how you deal with anxiety, and it seems like you've overcome anxiety. Do you still get anxiety? Oh, yeah, yeah, I do. I do.

It's minimal, though. Well, first of all, the meditation helps a lot. Working out helps a lot. And I also, my level of anxiety and depression, I have been on a medication since I was 20. Plavix? No. You know what? Here's why I've always hesitated to say the name of the medication.

I just said, I didn't know if that's an actual. Oh, you just made it up? Is Plavix not? No, no. I've never heard of it. It's a very popular one, but here's the reason I hesitate because in sort of communicating with people and showing how similar you all are, sometimes those similarities bleed into a little bit of, I want to be like you or a not thorough thought process.

And if I say the name of my specific medication. Everybody out there will go, Kristen Bell's doing it. No, not even that. I don't care if they know I'm on it. Because it's like, everybody knows what the name of this medication, this anxiety, depression medication is, but I don't want anyone, like a young person who doesn't maybe thoroughly understand it versus a doctor to say, I want to be on this one, because there are like 15 different anxiety and depression medications, you know?

You have to see which one's right for you. You have to see which one's right for you. And you need to talk to your doctor about your symptoms because they do do a little bit different things and you want to know what's right for you. So I don't want to say, hey, I'm on Paxil, which I'm not. But what I say? Plavix? Plavix.

But Paxil is the name of one. And I don't want everyone to go like, well, that's the one that works because I want her personality because that is not how these things were. No, no, no. But let me ask you this. How long ago did you have this? What were your symptoms? What were your day-to-day feelings?

What were they overwhelming? Were they, you know, what were they feeling? And then when you tried this drug that they finally found for you through your therapist, did you suddenly, did it change your life? Yeah. And what did it alleviate? I want to hear those. Well, for people who don't know about SSRI inhibitors, which is,

what I'm on, which is when your brain doesn't produce enough serotonin, it, well, it produces enough serotonin, but like the sort of other parts of your brain don't catch it. And so it just sort of dissipates, but you need to be able to catch it. It needs to go from one nerve to another. I'm not a medical doctor, but this is the way I understand it. They are not a benzo or an oxy or anything like that that would mess with your brain. So it doesn't impair me. I can drive a car. I can, so they don't mess with your personality at all. So I was a very happy, go lucky kid. And then by the time that I was, I guess, 19, my mom had had a conversation with me because she suffers from the same thing early on. And she said, listen, if you ever experience a lot of nervousness, a feeling that you can't make a decision, which is anxiety.

I still have a lot of anxiety because I have so much, I can't like, I look at all the dishes in my cupboard. And I'm like, which one should I use? And I spend five minutes doing it sometimes. And I'm like, you've got to snap out of this. You're wasting your life. It's ridiculous. She said, if you have trouble deciding, if you're feeling like life is too much, write it down or maybe I came up at that I can't remember I think she said write it down and everything

that I wrote down was positive like I have a boyfriend that I adore I'm paying my college tuition payments on time I'm studying what I want to do I'm living in New York um both my parents are healthy and there was like barely anything in the negative category that's how I knew that it was out of my outside my control so I make a list a pros and cons list and if there's a bunch of shit like I'm fighting with my best friend. I'm like, I'm not in shape. All these things in the negatives. Then I go, well, I can actually handle all of these. Let me handle all of these and really put effort into it before I explore anything else. So I felt like there was just kind of like a dark negative cloud over my head. Were you extremely fatigued at all? Yeah, not extremely. Did you just feel like during the day you're

like nervous, the nervous energy made you tired? Yes, because my adrenaline was so high. Exactly. I wanted to crawl. I could, I could compete with a regular day as a student who was studying music and theater, but I still always wanted to crawl back in bed. It felt safer. I didn't always want to interact with people. And I knew in my bones that that wasn't me. I knew that wasn't my core. So my mom also, she's a nurse and she explained it to me. She said, look, talk to a doctor because I in no way, shape, or form and condoning everybody taking drugs. I think a lot of people do not need it. A lot of people just need to start working out getting their bodies active to activate their endorphin system.

But she said, there shouldn't be a stigma, don't feel embarrassed, because if your brain's not doing something physically, would you ever deny a diabetic his insulin? You'd never say to the diabetic, just process the sugar by yourself. Don't take that insulin. That's a stupid thing to say that person would die. It's similar with anxiety and certain types of anxiety and depression. So I went to a doctor, explored my options, started on... What year is this?

Uh, 99? 99. Started on tiny bill that the same one was, which my mom took, which by the way, that's the reason I started there because the doctor said, well, chances, there's no way to know. There's a lot of different medications that you could be taking. Chances are, if this works for your mom, it will work for you. It lifted the black cloud and all the sudden I felt so much, I felt hungry for life like I knew I should be as a 19 year old who got out of Detroit and was studying fucking. musical theater. Yes, I'm doing jazz hands. In New York City, the most exciting time of my life, going to see theater, like, standing in the TKTS line, like worshiping Audra McDonald, all these

things that were amazing. Life just changed. How long did it take? Well, they say two weeks to set into your system. I noticed a difference in like three days. All of a sudden, the cloud was gone, and I wanted to have a nervous energy in the morning. Did you ever get that nervous energy in the morning? That was gone? Yeah. Let me tell you something. it is genetic my mother has manic depression i'm look i'm not saying my sister has manic depression my grandmother had manic depression so i'm like i'm sure there's some fucked up shit with my mind how often do you work out uh i try to play hockey once a week and i work out maybe once or twice a week should i work out every day well yeah the thing i believe this is true rob you're going to have

to fact check me but i'm pretty sure he doesn't work at it all so don't ask him anything but i think in england they prescribe you which i believe in and i think they should do it here they prescribe you a workout regimen before they will ever even entertain you being on medication. I mean, granted, they're not in bed. I don't do a lot of cardio. Should I do more cardio?

That is true. It is true? Okay, I think that's brilliant because I don't love fixing things with drugs if you don't have to. I don't love taking antibiotics. I'll only do it if I'm like on my deathbed. Like, I don't, I'm not Pfizer pushing right now at all.

You know, especially if you're hesitant to take a drug. Work around it. See if other things work first. Exercise. I'm going to do 30 minutes of cardio a day. I'm going to start working out. And then I'm going to see how. See how my mental stability changes, yeah.

This might be the most intimate podcast I've ever done on this topic. But by the way, I'm so, I could not tell you how interested I am. I couldn't be more interested than I am now. Kristen, you're like someone who, look, I mean, like it or not, I know you're very humble and I've known you and you're just one of the, you feel like you can hang out with you because you can, you're just that kind of person, but you've been on, you're like Ellen's best friend. You and Dax, you do commercials together.

You do tons of movies. You're in, like, you're a sweetheart. Everybody loves you. I mean, look, I know, I know you hate hearing. this. But to be so humble, to be like, you know, in the old days, people would just be like, look at me. I'm beautiful and I'm on the cover. And they were like having these horrible secrets that no one would know about. Yeah, that feels gross to say that. Yeah. It feels gross to what? To say that, to even do a look at me. I also have this weird complex thing about performance

where I love to do it, but I'm also simultaneously don't want anyone to watch me doing it. I know it. It's a very strange relationship with performance I have. Yeah. But what I'm saying is like, it's, you're just so approachable. And I'm like, looking at someone so successful. And I've had some success and Dax is really successful. And I hang out with, I have friends who are not successful at all. And they're working their way up in. They make no money. And I'm like, well, they're happier than me.

And they don't have anything. Well, the more you have, the more unhappy you get. I'll tell you that right now. It works. I see it with raising my kids. When I give them everything they want in a day, they're fucking assholes. Right. I think someone told me.

Yeah, always have your kids overcoming something. And I'm like, well, they're going to live unfortunately and fortunately, obviously, a very privileged life. They go to, you know, work with one of us. And someone's like, we're working on this new Nome's cartoon. Do you want this toy? Like, they get, you know, they get, they're, they're just treasured. And not every kid has that experience.

And I don't want them to think, A, that's normal. I want them to either be grateful for it or understand that's not the way the world works. And so, like, we make them share a bedroom. We have a third little bedroom in our house. We have three bedrooms. Yeah, but I'm like, look, you guys are going to fight your sisters and you're going to have to get over it. Always have them overcoming something. I was over there one day, and I remember Lincoln was just crying her face off.

Sure. And you and Dax's like, no, she's going to cry it out. She's going to have to cry it out. Were your parents this way? Were you? I don't know. You don't remember those. I have no idea.

When you say memory, it's amazing to me because it scares me how, you know, when I hear people like you and Mary Lou Henners kind of an exaggeration, she's an anomaly. But she, well, for her, you know the deal. She's going to come on the show. She is. Her memory, yeah. No, she knows. She's like, oh, yeah, that was April 14th, 1984.

Yeah. And it was at 4 in the morning, and I was wearing a blue dress. I mean, that is fascinating. But as fascinating as it is, I saw this on 60 minutes because she was a guest on there. And she said the good, the bad thing is you remember when someone dies like it was yesterday. She remembers like about she goes, when were you born? July 11th. She goes, oh, July 11th.

That was a Wednesday in 1972. And I remember it was raining. And, you know, the Mets. still sucked or whatever. I don't know what the hell is. I saw that 60 minutes too and I barely remember it. See, that's what's crazy is you don't have that kind of memory, but I envy you for the memory that you have when it comes to lines. Like for me, I get anxiety and freak out when I'm like, they want you to audition for this or you have to learn five pages of dialogue because my mind doesn't work that fast. I can't. And maybe it's the stress. Maybe it's too much pressure I put

on myself. But you have never felt that. That is something you have never understood. I can read it once and have it memorized. But it comes out. a cost because I truly don't remember vacations I've been on with my husband where he'll say we've been there. We went skiing there. And I'm like, I have no memory. It just didn't download. Wow. Would you trade it half and half? Absolutely. More memory, less memory to learn lines. Yeah, I'd be happy to work more on short-term memory and like memorizing lines to have more recollection of my life. Because sometimes when it's, it makes me sad sometimes. To be totally honest with you, when there's like a really special moment with Delta or Lincoln are doing

something extraordinarily cute. And I'm just trying so hard to imprint it because I'm like, don't forget this, don't forget this. They don't like it when I take out my phone. They don't like their picture taken. They don't like devices. They're like, be human with me in this room, which I have to respect. And I'm like, am I going to forget this? Am I going to forget that cute thing they said? Yeah, it is kind of sad. But I'd take your memory over that. I'd forget Rob in a fucking second just to learn some lines. Never forget, Rob. Rob is your boss. You don't realize this, but Rob is your boss. Well, you know, Rob, I talk about this. Rob, I was doing stand-up comedy, and he was taking pictures of all the comedians. And I was like, hey, can I get a picture of me

doing stand-up? Because I don't know if I have the boss to continue doing this. And he goes, hey, man, do you have a website? And I'm like, no, I don't know, I need a website for. Who has a website? He goes, oh, you should have one. Here's what I do. Next thing, you know, I've got a fucking website. You know, you should put a real together. You should have a fucking podcast. All of a sudden, I'm like, what's? You're describing your boss. who tells you what to do. Monica. That's my Monica.

Yeah. And because look at that soundboard he's working on. Could you even get near that without blowing it up? Well, fuck, yeah. If I put some time into that, but I have no interest in that. Yeah. And also, you wouldn't put the time into it. So Rob is the boss.

All right. Well, don't tell him that anymore. Okay. Because I got already seen. He hasn't even seen Frozen. You have been seen Frozen. Who cares? How many times your kids?

They know it's you, right? Who knows it's me? Yeah. They can care less. They don't care about. frozen they don't i mean they do they like one of lincoln likes the outfit but they like first of all they like Elsa because everyone likes Elsa but it's because it's their normal it doesn't impress them first of all we are born to reject everything our parents do it is in our

DNA so they don't really want me to talk about it and i think they assume that other people's parents voice other characters because that's their normal you know what i mean although i will say they have a heightened awareness of what voiceover work is because we talk about it and because I've taken them into the studio when I've recorded like Delta the little one when we're watching Paw Patrol her very favorite show on the planet when there's like the scary dragon comes on she'll say but that's not a scary dragon mom that's a man making a growling voice right and I'm like absolutely sweet cheeks she's smart she is smart are you do you have a lot of patience you and dad who has more patience with the kids

is that an unfair question oh no it's not with the kids me in life and with everyone else well dax has a unending patience with me like he's had it and that's it no no unending oh unending unending because well as you know i mean rob's going to have to edit this how long did i ramble like some of these times i've been talking i'm just like six seven minutes and even in my head i go christ and how long have you been talking i will do that in a very nonlinear way at home he this is how he describes me telling a story he'll say you come home and you'll say i saw uh susy at uh warner brothers today you know susy she had worn that pink t-shirt the same t-shirt that when i lived on huntington with my mom and

went to burton elementary school the girl from burton was wearing that t-shirt when when her dad was a swim coach and then he's like what am i supposed to be paying attention to right now so you just you're really you're telling the story and you're dissecting like like a sentence like you're uh i'm never getting to the point and he knows that that is a character defect of mine and he loves me despite it and he sits there and he just nods and he waits and he waits until I get to the point and sometimes there's no point there's no point sometimes I've gotten so deep in the details that I can't remember the point so I would say for patience he will win it he is we have a pretty matching patience with the

girls actually he's pretty damn patient with yeah as am I How much do you love singing and acting? I mean, is there something that you, if somebody took that away from you? What else would you do if you weren't in the entertainment industry? Oh, interesting. I was asked this question yesterday. Well, fucking, let's go to the next question. Okay.

Well, I will say, I just saw the movie Red Sparrow and the whole time. Is it good? Yeah, it's pretty good. I mean, she's, I can't wrap my head around her existence. You don't like her? No, she's so fucking good. I like her too. No, she's the best.

Yes. See, we'll hook that up, Kay Bell. All right. Let me call Jennifer Lawrence and, and see if she wants to date you. I'll give you a good wreck. But she's so, she's just so exceptional in her personality and her acting. That's what I think.

But she, you know, these red sparrows, they, like, go to this Russian training camp where they, like, learn how to manipulate people. All right, fine, but they manipulate people. Okay. Still give you in a way. Sorry, sexually or otherwise. And I thought, like, undercover operatives. And I was like, I could totally be a sparrow.

I don't know, though. I, after having had kids, prior to kids, I thought I might want to work with animals because I like to nurture a lot. It's like my love language. I need it or I, I whither.

And now I feel like I would be a really good preschool teacher. I know that's so cliche though. Like, I don't know. I mean, if you were like, if I was to talk to like Kay Bell back in college and said,

hey, do you want to get married? Yeah. Even back then, would you have said yes? Probably. But I said, you want kids?

Yeah. Weirdly, I wanted kids I was before you had them yeah up until it became game time and then I was like ooh maybe not I was like I love our life we travel a lot do we really want this and then we just asked all of our bluntest friends like all of our really really most sarcastic truthful friends should we do this you're like should we do this and everyone was like yeah it's fucking unmissable you got to do it but I don't know how you do it because I could barely get by and I don't

have kids you know so you just make it work as tim gunn says but you have kids you're working out you're meditating sometimes if you're not getting your nails done i'm not really meditating that often but i have it in my back pocket that's the important but you're doing your show the good place with ted dancing you jump out of another show house elize you do movies bad moms too i'm not doing that show on ellen called mom splaining mom splaining a take on mansplaining but from a mom's from a mom's perspective so it's like people throw these things i mean i'm like too much. I can't do. I can barely do one thing. I feel like that all the time. But weirdly, do you get overwhelmed? Like, oh, I can't. Every day in my life. Every day of my life, I'm in

almost perpetual state. But that's not a good feeling. No, it's not. And I need to work on it. And I have a lot of character defects still. I need to say no to more things. But I have a sort of bleeding heart. And that's not a compliment. That is a character defect. Because I lose myself. And then I get impatient or irritable with other things. Little things. I can't say no. Yes. Yes. But I'm like the ambassador for like six different charities because all of them are worthy and name you charities real quick uh no kid hungry which gives free and reduced lunch or breakfasts to kids who need it for low income families um baby to baby and one of their angels which provides zero to 12 kids uh and poverty levels with the diapers and all the necessities

they need a group called inspired d r that's in the dominican republic which is the only like boys mentoring program there's a lot of ones for girls but they teach boys a bunch of skills and also how to be good husbands and fathers and members of their community. I work with Gift of Life, which is a bone marrow registry program. Good Lord. You are doing it. I'm doing, I'm currently working with the Prostate Cancer Foundation because I think it's really important for men to be supporting women and women to be supporting men.

So this month we did a, it was called the True Campaign. We picked a caregiver because people who take care of sick people, particularly like with prostate cancer, they deserve to be acknowledged. And we had this big contest and raise awareness. Does that just get his prostate checked? Oh, yeah. Like, did they stick a finger in? Yeah.

Because my doctor doesn't do that. He doesn't believe me. He just says my PSA numbers when the blood tests. If they were weird, then he would do it. So I've gotten away with no finger in my ass for a good 20 years ago. Well, he got a vasectomy a couple years ago. And he said, well, I'm knocked out. Do everything anal you need to do to me.

I, interesting. I had, which is a phrase, he's never said before. Do everything. Do everything. No, no, he won't let me near his buns. He won't let you near. Not that I'm like dying to get that. No, he doesn't like...

Or as we call them our asshole lips. Yes, you guys do call asshole lips. No, he has an insecurity about one time I had to shave his buns for he was doing, this is where I leave you and he had to show his butt. So he like, first of all, it's so cute because he... His butt is adorable, but it's usually a little flatter than he'd like. Of course. So he did a ton of butt exercises leading up to it.

His research for the role. And then I had to, he didn't want anyone else to make sure it was groomed. So I went in with like a buzz race. Just to make sure that we were all clean and dandy down there and learning how to use the buzz razor because I don't use is that even what it's called? A buzz razor? I can't imagine that's what it's called. I don't know, but I use a regular clipper for my ass. Yeah, clipper. Okay, so, you know, he was in a compromising position and I was and I was just sort of sat on the floor and I was learning how to use this device and somehow I think I just heard it on the radio, but I was as I was doing it, I was singing, talk about it, talk about it, talk about it. Ooh, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. And he, to this day, it makes fun of me for that. And whenever we hear that song, we do this, like, we're buzzing someone's bun. So that just makes you feel comfortable and make you happy, happy place. And he was mortified.

He was like, are you singing back there? And I was like, you cut me some slack. I'm shaving your ass, boy. I'm also shaving your buns. Yeah. What's your favorite decade for music? Oh, wow. Krooners.

What decade would that be? 50s, 40s, 50s, yeah. Yeah, like... Favorite crooner, Frank, Dean. Yeah, they've all got great takes. They all, I like standards. I don't know if that's necessarily a decade. Look, I love 80s because I grew up in a little...

Depeche Mode. Oh, my God, I just love him twice. The best. Favorite Depeche Mode song. And sing it. Oh, wow. No, I wouldn't sing it. Only 16.

Whole life ahead of... No, somebody. I want somebody to share. Share the rest of my life. Share my innermost thoughts Know my intimate details The best Great

But I like standards Like George and Ira Gershwin songs Like yeah And I also really like musical theater Favorite musical A song from a musical Oh wow Got to be Westside story, right?

No, no, no, no, no No I really like Sondheim Anything Sondheim My favorite show is a little night music I don't know There's a bit Well, that's from Send in the Clowns is from there. There's a beautiful song called I Shall Marry the Miller's son.

And there's also a really, really good song that two women are singing about the sort of like lack of love in their relationship. And it's called Every Day a Little Death, where they're just sort of seeing their love die around them. And it's like, every day a little death in the parlor in the den. And it's... It's kind of dark, Kristen. Are you dark? Yeah. There's some dark shit about you.

Absolutely. There is. Did you see Wonder? No. You know that movie with the kid? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw it over, we were playing Catan the night that our family watched it in the living room. Yeah, by the way, I asked some celebrities, some questions.

Matthew Lewis, who's Neville Longbottom on all the Harry Potter's. He's a buddy in mine. He was on the show, but he saw that I posted Kristen Bell's coming on the show. And he said, look, man, I love this game Catan. And I didn't know if it was like you were throwing the guy from Estanel around, like Chris Catan. I don't know. What's that game? It's a strategy board game.

We played last night. and Dax and Jess and I. Would I like this game? I think you would love it. Well, look, it's not as like... I want to be invited. I want to come. You can come.

I'll come. I've been invited. I want to come. Yeah, you're always invited. It's not as dorky as Dungeons and Dragons. Not that that's dorky, but it's not as like strategy. Like, there's not like cosplay in it. But it is a strategy board game, like risk meets monopoly, but not as far as monopoly.

It's really funny. Matthew Lewis wants to come to that. Ryan Hanson. I was supposed to do this movie. My love of all loves. But yes, you worked with him with Ronica Mars and hit and hit and run. He worked with him. Truly the brother.

Yeah, yeah. So he's doing a movie right now in Oklahoma. I text him this morning, and he asked, I asked him, what should I ask? Oh, no. He said, who is your favorite roommate at the commune? What's the commune? The commune was a house that I had that was right, actually close to this one. It was right around the corner.

And it was weird. It had these, like, six little bedrooms. And so there was, like, a lot of space. And I bought it, and I didn't, and I went through sort of. like a breakup right after I bought it. So I was living there alone and then slowly but surely all of my friends moved in. And there were six or seven of us living there at a time. Ryan, one of them. Ryan, his wife Amy. Right. Uh, Jedediah Jenkins, who is now a prolific Instagrammer and influencer. Right. And then our friend Christina, who is now a social justice and, um, lawyer in South

Dakota. Our friend Kim Biddle, who works on child advocacy and sort of sexual exploitation rights here in Los Angeles. I also had no furniture because I didn't know what I was doing. I was like 25, 26 years old. Were you a pot smoker or partier? No, not back then. I smoke pot now, but yeah, but not back then. But we would like pitch a tent in the living room and then just have like a sleepover there and we would all cook together at night except Jedediah and Ryan. They were helpful when you ask them, but they physically couldn't see when there were dishes in the sink, they couldn't see it. It was like a blind spot.

And I would be like, can you please do those dishes? I've had those roommates. Because no one paid rent. We all just lived there for, I was paying the rent anyway, so I felt insecure. Like, I felt it was stupid for me to charge my friends. And, oh, our friend, Katie, Leonard lived there as well. And I was like, can you

please do the dishes? They're like, oh, yeah, I didn't even notice. But Amy always noticed anything. We would have, like, weekly meetings about chores. Because I was like, listen, you guys, I can't do this by myself. Everyone's living here for free. Shit's got to get done. Ryan, you need to pull the trash cans in.

He was like, got it. We would make little note cards. And they never do it, though, right? No, no, they did it once I told them. Yeah, yeah. Oh, once you told them. Yeah. He also asked, fuck, Mary, kill.

Jason Doring, Chris Lowell, Rob Thomas. Oh. Those are Veronica Mars guys. Right? Yeah, that's very tough. Jason Doreing, Chris Lowell, Rob Thomas.

Mary, fuck, kill. Oh, no. You probably marry Rob Thomas. Yes. Yeah, but I can't kill Chris Lowell or Jason Doring. I'd probably fuck Jason Doring. Good for him. Good for Jason.

Wow. And I... You just killed Chris Lowe. No, I can't kill Chris Lowe. He's too good of a friend. Kill Rob. But if I kill Rob, that's like, he's like a prolific voice in the zeitgeist. Like he created Veronica Mars.

He like, I can't. Oh, wow. That's too much. I'd kill myself before I had to do any of those. It could be the Matchbox 20, Rob Thomas. Good call. He's a dick, I think. I heard he's a dick, I think. I heard he's a dick.

Actually, we try to get a song for the movie. You don't know that. Yes, I do. You do not know that. We try to get a song for back in the day the movie I directed, and I tried to get a song, and he's the only one that just would not even say yes or no would never respond. His guys were like, never. Do you think he might have been really busy?

Has there ever been a time when you've received an email, Michael, and you were really, really busy, and you didn't respond to it? Has that ever happened to you? Okay, fine. People are complex. Don't you dare pigeonhole anyone. She texts, I texted her. You did?

Because we knew each other from way back when. She was on Dexter. You worked with her on Broadway. You were her understudy and she was someone else's understudy. So makes you the third understudy for the, no, am I wrong? No, she will, it was, we were, sort of, but we were doing the Crucible and there's like two main girl roles, Abigail and Mary Warren. With Liam Neeson.

Yes. Oh, God. She played Mary Warren, understudied Abigail. I played Susanna Walcott and understudied Mary Warren. Kristen has a poster of Antonia Banderas hanging in her bedroom. It recently moved from the ceiling to a door. Yeah. He's oily and shirtless in it.

Yeah. She had a poster of him in her room as a child as well. Say hi. Have fun, you guys. That's all she wanted to say. I love me some Jen Carpenter. Jen Carpenter is one of, first of all, incredibly talented. Did she sell block 99 in 99?

No. Murder in Cell Block 99 or something. it's unbelievable was she extraordinary in it she's great she's been spa I loved it she's so talented I mean she's also like Juilliard and like she just yeah she's endlessly impressive she's also one of the funniest weirdest people I know and we got along splendidly we were roommates when we came out here I love her so so much but yes I do have a Tony B poster and it only moved from the we put it okay true story I had one hanging in my room Dax went to my childhood bedroom and he said do you like Antonio Banderas and I said

not really and he said why do you have this poster and I kind of looked at it and I was trying to remember and he said was this the first poster you hung up and I said yeah and I went through puberty really late and I remembered I realized all everyone was putting up pictures of boys and like sexy things in their room when they were having like feelings in their underwear and I was not and I was like shit I got to get a poster I got to get a poster fuck fuck fuck I got to get a poster and I opened up like a teen b and there was like oiled shirtless Antonio B so I put Tony B up on the wall and I still have him

in my childhood bedroom to this day and then Monica as a joke for my birthday got us a Tony B poster and put it above our bed and then one night Delta was sleeping with me in the bed.

Dax was out of town and she couldn't fall asleep because he was too scary and so I moved him from the ceiling above the bed to the closet door wall. Have you ever met Antonia Banderas? No.

If you did, would you tell him? I think that would weird him out because he's like. think he would love it if some hot successful talented intelligent person said i had a poster but then i wouldn't tell them the whole story which is it was irrelevant which poster it was i also think i had a poster of simon rex like i didn't know who these guys were i just saw a boy right and i was like this is what i'm supposed to be doing who was your child with a crush they were all hockey players well fuck yeah yeah i still play hockey obviously and they were a red wing and i bet let me guess let me guess if i had to guess i'd say

Iserman? No. Okay, fine. I went with the pretty boy first. Yeah, you want the pretty boy? I mean, there's nothing wrong with Iserman. Littstrom was, no. Osgood.

150%. In fact, I wore a sticker that I made out of scotch tape on my school uniform for like a month that said Mrs. Osgood. He was also young. He scored a goal. He got in that like bisty cuffs with Roy Lee. Roy Lee? No.

Patrick Waugh Jesus, Roy Lee Patrick Waugh Yeah, when they came out of that When you know And their rivalry with Colorado was like no other I mean I also really like

Matthew Dandenall Those were the winning years You saw them You saw them Oh big time They were really exciting time They were the only thing That was important to me

Movie stars were irrelevant Because Detroit had the red wings Although I will tell you A really funny story That's so embarrassing So my dad was a news director Which means he directs the news He still does it right

Yeah still does it yeah And so but he He had the station, Channel 50, the UPN station, that broadcasts the Wings games. So, you know, because of the contract, the Wings would sometimes have to come in and give interviews in the studio. And when they'd come in, he'd always tell me I'd bring my jersey. I was like 14 and, like, dorky. And Chris Draper came in. Ah, Draper.

Drapers was the best. I mean, by the way, remember, Draper got 80 stitches in his face because of Claude Lemieux. Oh, yeah, yeah. He took an elbow to the back of the head. And then the next game that Colorado came, not Kurt Maltby. Who's the one that sounds like Kurt Maltby? Darren McCarty. Darren McCarty, the minute the whistleblue dropped his gloves and beat the shit out of Claude Lemieux.

It's not easy to beat the shit out of Claude Lemieux. Because they're best friends, Draper and Darren McCarty. It was like, it's a beautiful love story. Anyway. See, it's weird because you say, you know, you're telling a story and you're relishing in the moment of fighting. You like the fights and the getting in the back and the, because it's hockey. It's not real life, is it? And the thing with hockey players, as we know, it's the only sport.

They get in a fight and then afterwards they go have a beer. The shaking hands. It's over. It's over. And if you'll notice, I've told you a thousand details about this story that don't need to be there. And I'm strayed so far from the point. This is the kind of storyteller I am. The point is I got my jersey signed by Chris Draper. I mean, I think it gives the story's life. But whatever. Got my jersey signed by Chris Draper. And I was so excited, came home, put it in my closet. And then four years later, just before I turned 18, I was at a Barnes & Noble, just outside of Detroit, Michigan. and I saw Chris Draper.

And this was four years later. You slept with him. I wish. I walked up to him when I went, Chris, it's Kristen, and gestured to myself. Now, why he would remember a 14-year-old girl from four years ago that he signed her jersey one time at a UPN station. I was like, so invested. I was gesturing to myself like, Chris, it's me. It's me, Kristen.

you sign my jersey at my dad's news station. What did he say? He was lovely. He went, oh, oh, of course. You had that sit right near your nostril. Hey, yeah, he was like, hey, good, good to see you. And then he walked to his car and, you know, bought his book and walked to his car. And I, it was only after I'd been living in L.A. for a while that I was, like, going through a memory box and I saw, like, I have all this red wings paraphernalia.

I used to cut out of newspapers and stuff and, like, when the wings used to win. And I saw a picture of Chris Draper, and I'm like, oh, I had an interaction with Chris Draper. Oh, no. I almost demanded that Chris Draper recognized me from four years prior when I was a child. That is so embarrassing. And he couldn't have been lovelier. And then I told this story to Will Arnett. And he knows all these hockey players as well.

And then when he was at a game and Chris Draper was there, Chris signed one of the programs and wrote, Dear Kristen, I remember you now. Love Chris. Jeez. Oh, Draper. Oh, Draper. You've never hooked up with a hockey player before? No, I wish.

That was a really, that was an untapped market for me because I was too little. Never an athlete? I didn't mean at 14. I'm talking when you're legal. No. Never gone there? No. Any crushes, any man crushes in Hollywood?

You're like, gosh, I know one of them. Who? Peter Dinklage. Big time. I remember you tell me that years ago when we started watching Game of Thrones. And I was like, I get it. He's so sexy. He's sexy because he just embraces everything he is.

He's so smart. And he's so funny. And I also, like, know him and I know his wife. So obviously, like, I'm just basically high-fiving his wife every time I say that he's, like, wonderful because I don't want his wife to think I'm, like, coming after him. I very much respect him. Also, he knows that I love him more than life itself. And his wife is gorgeous and they're beautiful and wonderful, and I'm not a homewrecker. But who else?

Fuck, Mary killed Draper, Peter Dinklage, and Dinoffrio, Vincent Dinoffrio. I stunned you again. Those are hard. I've done some research. Oh, my God. I bet you kill Draper. Yeah, only because I have the least history with him. I know Donofrio.

You're going to marry Dinklage and you're going to fuck D'Noffrey, aren't you? I know me so well. I knew it. Yeah. The way you talk about Dinklage, I don't think you've ever talked about Dax like that. Yeah, Dax is very sexy, but I guess he's sexy. I was saying I don't recall the stars. If I wasn't married to Dax, I would be talking about how sexy he is.

Or you'd be calling me up the second he broke up. That's right. If I was married to you instead of Dax, I would be talking about how sexy Dax was. Lastly, you know, I always promise, like, the fans that they all want to know stuff. They write in, like, questions, and you can just be brief on this. You don't have to give the Dax elaborate, you know, the things. So, okay. So, okay.

And you don't have to answer them. This is from Ace 2, Me 818. Who is more competitive between your Dax? Oh, that's a toss-up. I'm probably more competitive. And within the context of a competitive game, Dax is more revengeful. Who loses their cool?

No, neither. You know what? Neither. We're both passive aggressive. Hello, hello, Nads. Would you do an Assassin's Creed role in the live action version if offered? Because you were in the video game. Yes, of course.

But they've already made a live action version. Have they? I didn't see it. I did not get offered that role. Were you upset? Yes. You would have done it. Yes, because I started the video game.

It was like based on my face. Swim. Yeah. Swim Cutie LMR would like to know if the good place is fork swearing has messed with your ability to drop a well-placed F-bomb in real life? No, in fact, quite the opposite. I often will use the real F-bomb and then we'll have to redo the take at work. Really?

Yeah. What's your favorite curse word? Oh, shit pig? Shit pig. Mm-hmm. Like if someone cuts you off or you're particularly just grumpy and can be like, this fucking shit pig. I really like that. It's a good one.

It feels good. Expect shit pig from you. Toby M. Parker, have opportunities not come your way because you were a female? Has this happened to you? Is it as bad as they make it out to be on the Oscars? First of all, yes, it is. There are weird stigmas everywhere, and this world is run by old white men, and it shouldn't be. And so, yes, it is as bad as they make it out to be.

Because I've heard a lot of those girls' story firsthand. It hasn't happened to me. I haven't been in a situation where I felt like particularly sex. or uncomfortable, but it's really not sexual at all. All these issues are power, misplaced power and greed. Of course. No, it hasn't happened to me, and yes, it is as big of a deal as they say it is. Jamelin 9483, will you sing Baby Got Back in the opera style while Michael beatboxes?

No. Okay. No way. I like Big Mutz. Bullshit, bullshit in her All Just Voice? All to Snow. Yeah. So in Sarah Marshall, this is one of my biggest ego boosts.

When we were doing Sarah Marshall, Jason and Russell were very, very, very, very exemplary improvers. And I was not. They were both trained. They were fantastic. And so I felt insecure during the filming of that movie because I wasn't bringing much to the table. And Judd was like known for having this improv style and, you know, say what you want to say. Let's do a free take. And I never felt like I had anything to give.

It was scary. It was very scary and I just didn't feel worthy, I guess. And then during a scene where Sarah Marshall was supposed to be making fun of Alda Snow and they were lying in bed and she was getting fed up with him, I had decided that Sarah would be really bad at doing Aldous's English accent because she's supposed to be a good actress and wouldn't it be funny if she did a terrible accent. And I was talking about the nonsense that comes out of his mouth all the time. And I said, something like you always saying, boo shit, boo shit, boo shit. And I did a bad English. accent and that is one of the things that people remember from Sarah Marshall to this day I'm like I got one in I got one in the cool kids like me so bullshit is what you're trying to slip in yeah well I was just did they know that it was my improv I guess is what I was saying yeah and then they kept it

and it's like a pretty piece of Angie LaCasey caught it makes me happy every time I hear it I think maybe I am worthy this has been a an incredible treat I'll tell you what this is I'm done I mean we don't have to be. No, I mean, you do the therapy segment thing. I mean, we've gotten into therapy. This is, I'm just going to say this. I was a little nervous about this because we sort of know, we know each other. We don't see each other a lot.

You know, it's like, oh, you know, it's Kristen Bell. I haven't talked to. It's just, I don't know. I know Dax has a podcast now. Yeah. And it was just like, oh, you know, she's doing another podcast. I don't know if you were going to be inconvenienced. I was like, I have to be somewhere. I'm meeting. I'm meeting. You're my friend. Why would I, say that again? I'm meeting. You're my friend. Why would I, if your friends ask you to support them, you do it. I feel. I feel. just awkward always asking people to do things and it's very hard and Dax knows this now. He has to ask people

to do these podcasts. I know. That's because you guys are big boys and you don't like to ask for help and it's very sweet and cute and stupid. But I'm asking you for your help for anxiety and things. Oh, I'll help you with that. I really will ask you questions about that. I'm happy to help you. That's one of the things I want to talk

to you about. This is the last thing, really. But I wanted to pretend for a second as if I had advice, if I were your therapist after our little meeting here. Tell me. me. Ultimately, I don't think it's anything you don't know already. Well, I like working on myself.

So even if it is, no, tell me something I don't know. I just think that you do too much. We know that. This is true. I think if I had half your guys money, I wouldn't work at all. Or I may quit the business. I'd work way less. You don't need to work as much.

You could take more vacations. We could. And we do. We actually do make a really good effort to have, like, every couple weeks we take the girls somewhere. It's usually camping. But we do make sure that family time is very important. And we have a no work on the weekends rule. And if something happens like, you know, two weekends from now is the kids' choice awards that I have to do. We will the next weekend make it that the kids can choose what we do. We're pretty diligent about that. Although I will say, even though I possibly

could stop working, I support a lot of organizations and there's a lot of philanthropic causes that I believe wholeheartedly and that need donations. So A, if I'm staying relevant and working, then I'm able to gain traction for their cause. And B, I'm able to support those places because I put my money where my mouth is. I'm on a monthly donation to the ACLU, to planned parenthood, to a couple, you know what, all the ones that John Oliver said at the end of last season, he gave like the five places. He's like, this is who you should be on a monthly donation to. I'm also on a monthly donation to Team Rubicon, which is really cute. It's like vets who have come back and want to stay of service to people. So when natural disasters hit, it's a charity operation similar to what FEMA does

where they will deploy like 10 vets to go down to, you know, Hurricane Harvey. And those 10 vets will be like, this whole block we've got. We'll, we'll get, dig everyone's basements out, we'll help you rebuild your life. We'll make sure tents are set up if there's not enough room at the shelter. And it's awesome. And the vets know how to organize it because they've done military operations. Anyway, that was my picture of that team Rubicon. As your therapist, I think you were just deflecting, it was a statement about you're doing too much and you answered it with doing more. Yes.

And almost protecting yourself, almost like defending yourself as if you were thinking, but look at all the great I'm doing in the world. And that's all great. But I just need you to maybe think about, do you need to do as much? A little more balance, yes. Although I will say that by working and hustling and making money for these organizations and personally being responsible for financing some of these organizations, it makes me feel good. It makes me sleep soundly at night. Okay. I never have any sleep issues because I'm like,

you know what? I am leaving the earth better than I found it. So there is an argument to me getting burnt out and not being able to be of service to anyone because I'm not taking enough time for myself. And I think as long as I'm doing that and I check in with myself every now and again, then I think I'm good to go. I want you to think as though with these charities, like I want to become one of these charities and what I mean is I want you to think of me as a charity that needs some some time and some attention so I want you to find someone like yourself who is that you who's single maybe who's not this is after hearing you talk I really feel like I'm I've been ready for a relationship I did date a girl for a year I'm ready to be in a relationship I don't go to clubs I haven't

gone in 10 years I don't go out a lot I'm a hermit I do fun things I play softball and things. I do want to find a good girl. And Rob was hounding me. And the reason I'm bringing this up, because you said, why don't you ask Kristen? She has a bunch of great friends. I don't think. Yeah. Okay, I'm paraphrasing. I'm paraphrasing. All I'm saying is that think about that. What, to shoot a girl your way?

Well, I mean, a woman. A woman. Oh, yes. So I like that. Well, and then. Or Jennifer Lawrence. Anyway. Give him advice on what he should do to meet. Well, look, you can, you don't have to stop going to clubs or going out. You can still That's not for me. No, but you can do it, but being ready for a relationship just means are you ready to invest in someone and make the choice to love their flaws as much as you love all of the wonderful things about them? Yes, I am.

I don't want to die old. Yeah, by the way, that's a scary thought of like who are you going to be sitting on the porch with when you're 90. That's why I'm trying to become, you look, you're always striving to be a better person to find someone who. who has the same likes and who, you know, you can grow old with, but also is smart and likes to do different things and shows you different things because I'm very stubborn. I'm sure Dax was stubborn. You were stubborn.

And then you both like, okay, I'm going to do his thing because he liked that. And you start liking things that he likes. He likes things you like. And here's the catch. Even if I don't like it, I still do it. And you don't like it sometimes? Yes, of course. You know, do you think I, like, want to go watch him race his motorcycle?

Fuck no. But I love that he loves it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Does he want to admire my manicure when I get home? Probably not. But this is a matte shade. And Matt is in right now.

And I said, I'm going to let you look at this for a minute. And he said, honey, that's beautiful. You have to recognize that if you're flawed, then everyone else is also flawed. And don't you want someone to love you despite your flaws and say, you know what? You're doing too much. You talk over people or you don't pipe up enough or. Did you say that because I talked over people? No, I was thinking of character defects.

Oh, okay. Or you, you know, you need to pick yourself up by your bootstraps or you need to take more time for yourself or you need to, whatever the things are, we all have them. And if you want someone to love you despite all those things, then you better be ready to love someone else despite all those things. Or love those things about them because that's what makes them unique. I'm ready to do that. I'm proud of you. I really am ready. I'm just, I'm fatigued.

It's hard. It is hard, especially out here, you know, in Los Angeles. In the entertainment industry, it's just very hard. People try to hook you up. People will say, oh, there's a dating site. And you go to the dating site and they don't look like themselves. You got to go through the weeds a lot. But it's also, you know, when you're, when you find someone that you think you might

want to invest in, you also have to constantly ask yourself, do you want to win or do you want to be right? Because if you're trying in a relationship, do you write, all these stupid cliches are so fucking true. That's the crazy thing. So it's like there's tons of times when I think Dax has an asinine point of view. You need to just let people sort of be who they are and, and, and, and, you know, I need to let someone get inside of me.

Yeah. That's what you're saying. Well, I'm getting inside of that. I'm becoming more vulnerable. You are? Don't you see how I'm talking about my problems? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, I think that's positive.

I think that's positive. But you mask and guard a lot with, like, being funny and confident and charismatic and, like, and that's a, you got to strip that away and really be like, this scares me. Another stripped song by Depeche Mode. Remember stripped? No. Look up stripped. Master and servant?

No. Well, there's a song called Strip. Let me see you stripped down to the bone. That's a great song. This has been a real treat for me. This has been. It's been really fun. Me too.

I'm glad I did it. It's so fun. I mean, I talked only more because I felt like you wanted to keep going. I would have stopped a half an hour ago. I don't really care. Yeah, well. No, I mean, I care. I was happy to be here.

I'm happy to let it go as long as it does organic. I mean, people probably will have stopped listening by this point. Thank you for allowing me to be inside of you. This has been a real treat for me. This has been more than a pleasure. I really, it was a million times better than I thought it would be. But this, I'm not putting on an act for you. Okay.

I'm over the axe. Okay, good. I'm proud of you. I'm over the old Rosenbaum, Oldzenbaum. Olds and bomb. He's gone. All right. We'll give Dax a big kiss.

I'll be over the house soon. Please do. I'm going to play Catan. Catan. Catan. Yeah. Catan. Catan.

Come, we'll teach you. I'm going to wear plastic. the gloves and stay away from Delta. Kristen Bell, you're awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Today, we're going to talk about, what if you came across $50,000.

What would you do? Put it into a tax-advantaged retirement account. The mortgage, that's what we do. Make a down payment on a home. Something nice. Buying a vehicle. A separate bucket for this addition that we're adding. $50,000, I'll buy a new podcast.

You'll buy new friends. And we're done. Thanks for playing, everybody. We're out of here. Stacky Benjamin's, follow and listen on your favorite platform.