Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - FELICIA DAY: Setting the Bar Low, Being Enough & Landing Mystery Science Theater 3000

Episode Date: May 21, 2024

Felicia Day (Third Eye, The Guild) joins us this week to share her new mindset of ‘being enough’ after realizing that her self valuations were merely career and achievement based. Felicia discusses the relief of shedding people in the industry who were looking to ‘take from her’ and the joy of telling stories that she cares about, like the sci-fi comedy Third Eye. We also talk about her time on Mystery Science Theater 3000, disappointments with prominent authors of this era, and her lack of amusement with hockey. Thank you to our sponsors: ❤️ Betterhelp: https://betterhelp.com/inside 🛍️ Shopify: https://shopify.com/inside 🏈 PrizePicks: https://prizepicks.com/inside __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou 👕 Inside Of You Merch: https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🤣 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod 🌐 Website: https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Rosenbaum. It was funny because my friend Tom said he was listening to one of my episodes, and he's like, I was like, what is he doing with his voice? Why is he flying through this? Why is he talking so fast? And he sped up. You know how you could speed up the voice? And he didn't realize it. So he thought I was just acting like an idiot. So he's like, what is he? Why is he? I was about to call you. I was like, dude, get with it. How dare you fast forward to make it faster so you don't hear my natural tones? There's a lot of content that everyone's trying to get through. Yeah. You know what I watched last night was the roast for Tom Brady? How was it?

It was really good. There was some funny stuff. There was some stuff that was not funny. Yeah. Yeah, there were a couple comedians that were not funny. But there were some, like, Nikki Glazer was hilarious. Yeah, Hart was hilarious. Henscliffe, I think, was funny.

There was some funny stuff, man. I was, I laughed a few times and I was like, yeah, it was a good time. It was a good time. It was a good roast. You know, what's his name? Ross is a funny guy. Oh, Jeff Ross. Yeah, but Kevin Hart goes, man, if it wasn't for roast, man, Ross, you wouldn't have a career.

You just keep the roast coming because other than that, man, what are you doing? Nothing. You just do it. I mean, it's true. He's made a thing. He makes money and he doesn't. He's very funny. There's some people who are just naturally good at it.

Yeah. And there are some people who can get away with stuff. And then I did a roast once. I roasted people. I'm good at roasting. If I have time to write stuff. I had to do it, the way I had to do it, though, was like, I made a song about everyone. Oh, I liked that.

musical roast and all that rhyme because otherwise it just felt mean and it didn't really feel like my voice and it felt like I had to it was like I was forcing it but then when I I was thinking melody and I was like yeah yeah I liked that I was thinking of like how I would have roasted people and like Burke Kreischer you know the comedian how I would roast him I go hey look at me I'm a fat guy with his shirt off and uh that's all I do and I roll around hey everybody yeah look my shirt's off I'm drinking on stage I just like a little farley-esque thing but he's a funny guy yeah guys thanks for listening if you're here for felicia day and you enjoy the podcast um all i ask is you uh subscribe

listen follow us write a review whatever you want to do but follow us we're we're a podcast that you know we are always looking for listeners and if you're just finding us hopefully you'll dig this and our our handles uh ryan at inside of you pod on Twitter and at how to be podcasts on Instagram and Facebook. That's correct. If you go to my Instagram at the Michael Rosenbaum, there's a link tree. And it's all the stuff of the cons, Tom Welling and I are doing stuff for the Talkville podcast, my Rosie's puppy fresh breath product that is out on Amazon right now. It's amazing.

I just shot a commercial for it. So we're going to put that together. And, you know, we got the Smallville con, the first Smallville con ever in New Jersey in October. We've got our two sold out shows May 21st and May 22nd for the live pod for Talkville. I'm on the cameo, my band Sunspin, all that stuff inside of you online store with scripts like Smallville Scripts signed and Smallville stuff and all that stuff. There's a lot of stuff. So I'm just going to throw that out there.

And you can pre-order my book. It's called The Talented Farter. And it's a sound book. And it's, I'm so proud of it. And it comes out in October, but you can pre-order that now. and we got a great guest today uh felicia day she's a friend and um i loved having her here again and it's been a while and i like it because sometimes you know i like when my peers will reach out and say hey could i come back on the pod or this and that and sometimes i'm like oh fuck but with her i was

like yes i'd love to have you on i mean she's done so many things uh supernatural and um she's got Felicitations, the podcast, which is very successful, which you need to listen to when we talk about. And I just find her adorable. I don't know what it is. But I just like, I look at her and I'm like, you're adorable. You're adorable. I just think that. So Felicia, you're adorable. And without further ado, let's get inside of Felicia Day. It's my point of you. You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. You're talking about your socks a second ago?

Yeah, I think that this is the first time I've ever bought socks. And it's not because, you know, I've never worn socks. It's that every holiday, birthday, Christmas, people give me novelty socks. Why? Because they know you like weird socks? They know that I like, yeah, I'm whimsical. I'm a whimsical lady, okay? And so if it has a cat on it or, you know, a pizza or a hot dog, you know. Do you like that stuff?

Yes, but this I bought, I felt like I'm growing up. This is just a stripe. It's just a rainbow stripe. Those are cute. They're very sort of a sexy version of Wicked Witch of the West. All right. I don't know if this would be like just a crew sock would be sexy, but listen, you get your kinks. There's something about a good looking sock.

Well, you know, really it's the ankle underneath. So, do you have a good ankle? No, I always felt like I had some thankles, you know? Thick ankles? Thick ankles. Yeah. They call those cancles? Cancles, that's it.

I don't think you have cancles. I haven't looked really closely at your legs, but, you know, I mean, it's each his own or her own. Well, I was a ballerina. I did a lot of ballet as a kid. So, you know, you have these self-loathing things and you pick weird things. Like my arch was never like archy enough and my ankles were a little too thick and, you know, et cetera. Just body dysmorphia. It's not healthy.

Do you feel like you have that? feel like no matter how many times people say, gosh, you look great, you look thin, you look pretty, you look, you still look in the mirror and don't see what other people see. No, I'm disgusted by myself. Are you really disgusted? Yeah, but then I look at a picture of me like even like a year ago and I'm like, you look great. For some reason, in the moment, I don't know, do you have this, I think it's an actor thing. It's an actor thing.

I don't like looking at myself. I never feel like I take a good picture or whatever. I always do this trick where if there's a group shot, I try to be behind. the person a little bit or if it's a two shot my head's a little because i have a big head it's a little back to where so it's not flush with their face so in relative comparison you're your self-conscious about your big head yeah maybe um but i'm not like i just kind of accept it these days i mean if you watch the podcast you can kind of or you know you can see that i i don't put much effort into what i look like really i just sort of you know sit here and sometimes i'll shave ryan would you agree to that

he's not on the microphone but you know for me i um you know being somebody who does a lot of online stuff and an actor you know i i've decided i need to set the bar extremely low so that whenever i exceed it people are like wow i agree because otherwise you're that's your job to look good and i want it i know it's my job if i'm going to a work thing on a set you make me look good otherwise my day to day is is i'm a schlub i i i was going to say i agree with you but that not when you say you're a slob. I agree with you. You're a slub. No, I haven't put on pants in weeks. This is for you, buddy. Thanks. They have good pants. You have good jeans. Thank you. So like Kim Kardashian, whenever she goes out, it's like she has a whole makeup and she's got people

on staff. She's got a cool. And so she has to look fantastic. And the pressure of like, you can't go to a Lakers game and look like kind of half ass. Like, oh my God, she really lost it. Not that you should care what people think, but like I always. Well, that's her job. Her job is to be pretty. Yeah. You know? But I, I'm not into that world. It's too much. It's your full-time job. You know, you played a superhero, right?

Well, you're super villain. Well, you know, ish. Yeah, yeah. So that world, you're constantly having to worry about your appearance and your fitness and all that stuff. I would never want that job. Give me the secretary or the coroner. I was the bald weird guy, though. I didn't really, other than like he was a billionaire and wore suits, I'm in the antithesis of that.

Yet I was also like, you know, the weird, dark kind of looming. Like, I didn't have to have the great body. I did work out because I looked like, you know, I was competing with Tom. Well, what I'm saying, yeah, yeah, of course. Because he was so handsome and beautiful. Yeah. But he's just natural. He had the jeans.

No, he had to work for it. I don't think he worked that hard. I think he just had natural. Oh. Yeah. I'm not happy for him. No. But let me tell you something.

This goes with dating apps, too. You know, I don't put my best pictures on dating apps. Are you on the dating apps? Sure. What, ooh. Well, what do you want me to do? I don't know. I don't go out.

I don't leave my house. No, no. I hear you. And most of the time you don't, usually I never go out with a woman. I go to lunch or have coffee because it's an hour. And if they don't like you or you don't like them, it's not awkward. It's easy. It's like, hey, nice to meet you.

It was great meeting you. I wish you the best. Blah, blah. Nothing happens. It doesn't matter. But if you go to dinner, it's like a couple of hours. No. And it's fun comfortable for me.

No. So what I'm saying is in these apps, sometimes you see these women and you're like, beautiful. Oh, my good. Look at this. Look at, oh, it's natural, natural. And then you meet them. And you, you're going to be different. disappointed because they're never going to look like these pictures.

No. So I try to make it where I put pictures of me that I'm like, oh, he's wearing a wig. He's, I do have a picture of me playing hockey where I'm skating and I have this horrible wig on. And like, I'm like, people are like, oh, he's, he's funny. He's quirky. Yeah. He's like, and maybe that when they see me, they'll go about the same. Yeah.

Or maybe better. But it's better than you're, you're, if you put a wig, weird, weird, weird wig hockey picture on there, you definitely are going to be better in person. You're setting the bar low. see you can only exceed it and then people would be like ah well i thought it was kind of funny i think it's it's charming you're charming you're fine you wouldn't have clicked no never never well first of all i think hockey is the most boring thing you could imagine you are absolutely wrong you have you ever been a hockey game no i know well then you know sister christian let me tell you something

i have grown up playing hockey and i have gone to sporting events and there's nothing like going to an NHL hockey game, the speed, the hits, the checks against the boards, the shots, the stopping on a dime, spraying the ice, the sometimes an occasional fight breaks out. But like, you are not only, it's like you're not playing soccer. You're playing soccer on ice with sticks. Oh, gosh. For State University. All right.

Well, you know, I love it. And you know what? I'm going to take you to a hockey game one day. No. Please try it. No, I won't. Why? I don't want to.

My life is short. I want that two hours back already. It's three. It's way too long. What are you talking about? I promise you. I'll tell you what, I'll give you $100 cash if you hate it.

No, no, I don't want to do it. I am at the point in my life where I just don't want to try things that I don't want to do. All right, fine. Like crickets, you know? I'm not asking you to try it. I won't eat a cricket. You won't eat a cricket. We're talking about eating crickets and playing hockey here?

It's the same. It's both repulsive. Felicia Day. I looked at your resume, and you've been on the podcast a long time ago. A long time. A long time. Before I had a baby, maybe. And before, no, I think you just had a baby.

Oh, boy. How old your baby? Seven, almost seven. No. Then maybe you were, you didn't have the baby yet. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Wow.

But what I'm going to say is I look at your resume, and we'll get into Third Eye, which is Audibles, like one of their favorite shows. And we'll get into, I wrote it. You still doing that? Kind of. All right. I'm not as devoted to you as you. I do a podcast with my friend Tom Link called Undressing where we just watch some TV shows that we already text about.

So that's more fun. I have a problem. I have a problem. How do you continue this wonderful podcast for so many years? Honestly, I say it all the time. But my patrons, the patrons who listen to this podcast and support this little podcast, they support me on patron. And they are so devoted. And we get into mental health and we talk about real stuff.

and I don't I'm not like talking actory stuff I'm just trying to like have a conversation and and I learned to I think get better at it and more comfortable and natural and not really give a shit and kind of talk about my insecurities and it's sort of therapy for me and I think it's therapy for a lot of people so that's beautiful maybe that's why I think you're right you know you can't just be accountable to yourself you got to be accountable to other people and having even that small amount of you know support you feel guilty you're like I can't abandon them. They're people showing up for me. They're supporting me. Exactly. I have some people that have been patrons for five,

six years. That's amazing. It's amazing. But I was looking at your resume. Okay. And it's a double major to mathematics and classical violinist and, you know, top four percent at your university graduated at 19 or some shit, like all this stuff. And I, as smart as I knew you were, I was like, she's a very, she's intelligent. You're like really wicked smart. And you're, you were homeschooled. But what does smart mean? Because I'm socially not smart at all. I'm business not smart, but I'm smart as far as learning stuff.

Not me. Yeah, I think there's, you know, I just read this book to my kid last night about how different kinds of smart there are. And you can't really measure intelligence, right? You can't, you know, an IQ number doesn't tell you anything because, again, you get a tall, you got a big number, you get a 4.0. That doesn't mean that you can get along with people. It doesn't mean you're creative.

doesn't mean you're physically smart, quote unquote. Like, there's so many ways to be smart. And I feel like, you know, that's having a kid that really makes me more acutely aware of the fact that, you know, this number that we always place on people is kind of destructive because then you kind of encourage kids to abandon the other ways they could be smart and more talented and feel bad about themselves that they're not getting A's all the time. Well, you know, that doesn't matter when you get out of the world into the world where you're not getting A's. You know, nobody gives you grades, right? Yeah. I agree with you. I think I'm really smart in the sense of if wit is smart, like I'm witty, I'm creative,

I'm all these things, but, you know, I know some trivia and things like that and I'm, you know, whatever, but there's certain things that I think it's all about how you're raised. Yeah, and I was raised to always feel like I was a dummy. Really? Yeah, yeah, always. I was called dummy and stupid. Why? Who called you that?

Well, I mean, they weren't that important in my life, people in my life. My parents, of course. That's horrible. Yes, but that's, that breaks my heart. I know. And that's really difficult for me because no matter how you work on it, you're like, you know, you go to therapy. And they're like, Michael, look what you've accomplished and look what you've done. I know, but I'm a dumb guy that did this.

I'm a dumb guy that succeeded. No, I'm not asking for pity parties. No, I'm just saying little baby you was abused. That's abuse, you know? It is. I wasn't coddled. I wasn't, yes. And that's all true.

And that's so important for parents, especially at developmental ages, you know, those ages where you're so influenced and they make a mark. Yeah. And if your kid hears how smart he is and wonderfully is and like, hey, just try. All you have to do is do your best and I'm proud of you. And like, those things are so important. And I never heard those things. And so what I do is I try to. stop myself when I think those things, but sometimes they still bleed through. Like there's a

certain thing where, you know, I have a certain problem when people, I have to repeat something someone says. My mind doesn't work like that. Yeah. But learning lines and, you know, coming up with stuff and improvising, oh, that's great. But if someone throws, say blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, wait, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's something that doesn't compute my head. Well, it's also people's judgment. You know, I just recently did a short, I did a short film, and I played for the first time a horrible part, like a murdering, not a whore. A horrible. A horrible be, you know, just like a murder, like, and I was so confident for the first time in my life on set. I was like, you'll get what you get and you're going to like it. And I didn't realize that, you know,

I am a very quick, quirky person. I'm very likable. I'm very happy generally, but I'm very nervous, you know, anxious. And the fact that I could play a character that centers me in myself and being like, I'm sorry, I'm perfect the way I am, is like, why couldn't I channel that for years? You know, for the last several decades because I wasn't, it wasn't reinforced that I was wonderful the way I was. I was judged on my achievements. I don't think, you know, it was intentional, but it was an environment where intellect and

achievement was praise and I being a person who loves to please people. And I took that on as my self-reflection of myself. And so I'm valuing myself only as my achievements and not intrinsically as who I am. Wow. And so that's what I've had to work on my whole life, you know? I think you're not alone. I think that I thought being on a hit show would make certain people in my life go, you did it.

You're proud. You're this. You're something. And you can't rely on that. And you learn that. And there's got to be one moment. one moment in your life that occurs where you say, hey, I don't need that outside validation. And as much as I am getting so much better at it and just say, hey, I'm going to live my life.

I'm going to do it. We still crave it as artists. We still want to be accepted. We still want to be, I don't know, adored. I mean, I agree with you. This, I declared, after doing that short in December, I've decided 2024 is the year that I am enough. I'm enough. exactly the way I am. And I don't care if that maybe cuts off an opportunity with somebody

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Download the Rocket Money app and enter my show name inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum in the survey so they know I sent you. you don't wait download the rocket money app today and tell them you heard about them from my show inside of you with michael rosenbaum rocket money do you go to therapy not not right now i have many times in the past but i'm like okay with myself right now but hang on why do people do this to themselves why do people go to therapy when they're you know they oh my god nothing's

working i just i have to go i have to see someone and then they go oh and then they feel good again They're like, okay, I don't need that. It's like not getting your oil change, not getting your, it's like, to me, therapy's going to always be in my life because I want to stay sort of a homeostasis or whatever the hell they call. I mean, you're right. No, you're right. It's we should, we should probably, we, there's nothing, you can't, if you keep digging,

you're never going to stop finding something to work on. You're right. And I, um, I think it's just a time thing for me. And I really have been struggling the last several years with my health. What's the matter? Oh, man. I mean, just ever since I had a baby. It's been like, I've been, and it's been like a hormone thing.

It's been anxiety. It's been sleep. It's been Sebo. It's been like five or six different physical things. Are you hard to live with? No, well, the problem is sleep. I mean, my kid ruined me. If you don't sleep.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. She ruined me. Like, she didn't sleep for two years. And then when she starts sleeping, I have insomnia because I have such a bad hormone imbalance from her interrupting my sleep. I'm very sleep sensitive, right? Yeah.

try 50 different things before actually getting on medication, you know, and then that worked. And then I decided to go off it because I'm like, great now. And then I was struggled, tried other medications, which are not easy to transition off and on, you know, brain meds. And then I finally went back to the Lexa Pro that I'm on now. And I'm like, great. That's what I'm on. It's great. It's great for certain people. Yeah. We don't want to tell everybody, get on Lexapro. No, of course. Not of all the things Lexa Pro has worked the best for me. Yes. With that stuff. I agree. I take something for sleep. that is not addictive, but... And gabapentin?

No. Does that really help you? No, I don't take it anymore. I don't take anything for sleep. I just, I have to be super disciplined. And I'm not saying to take this. Please don't take this. Go to your doctor.

Go to your doctor. But I take a little trosidone every night before. Oh, yeah, and it's not addictive. It's fun. From what I hear. I would say fun. I just, it's more fun to actually sleep. Yeah.

But like, I haven't been sleeping lately because my dogs are waking me up at 1.30 and the wind's going crazy in the way. Yeah, they've been waking me up for some. reason like they have to go out i'm like you never had to do this let's not change your habits i'm gonna let them piss themselves no well you know what i have an automatic dog door what are you doing because i don't trust them with an automatic dog no no no it's a wifi collar it's a wifi collar on their thing and it just go you go up to the door and it opens and they leave and it closes you can control it from afar it's the best thing i've ever bought because i got the dog okay i was pretty stable i will it's pet tech something or other let me just tell you we adopted a dog one year ago and i had

just finally gotten to the point where I'm like, I'm sleeping pretty good. I can't do all these things. I can't have sugar, you know, after one. I can't have any caffeine. I can't have these things before bed. It really, it is a little bit restrictive. But at the same time, I was like, I found it. I found what gets me to sleep, even through my cycle. Because it's basically I got PMDD, which is extreme PMS. So whenever my cycle would change. That is real deal. It's real. So that's what I developed after I had a kid. And so all this, all the supplements, all of the medication is all to just sort of like stay even throughout the month. Yeah.

And this dog was getting, you know, she'd have diarrhea. And I'm like standing there. I'm like, why are you up at one having diarrhea? You know, please. Because you're feeding me diarrhea-worthy treats. I mean, it's true. It's true. She was just-

I'm lactose intolerate, you bitch. Didn't you learn anything from the short film you worked on? So anyway, I was like, I got to do something. I'm either going to put her outside, but you can't do. You can't just have an outside door. And I got this pet. tech dog it's the best thing it works expensive yeah do they install it uh you gotta get somebody

install it it's they have to like dig a like a like cut out a thing in your door or you can put in the wall they have two and it was not hugely expensive you know it's under like a lot of glass you can figure it out i can look i'll i'll look around okay but i'm telling you what happens if they can just take care of themselves you sleep all night it's so beautiful i'll still wake up when i hear the you know know. No. Do you live by it? It is, do you live by there? Do you not? Do I live? I mean, do you sleep right by the door? Uh, I have a, uh, a door in the, um, in my bedroom. Well, then put, no, you got to put the, can you put the door to the backyard outside away from you? Also, I sleep with earplugs.

We're going to talk about this for an hour and people are going to go, shut up about the door thing, but you're right. I'm going to do it. Okay, I'll, after this. All right. It's amazing. I'm telling you game changer. Um, I want to talk. Well, first, of all, third eye on Audible. Yeah. You write this, you direct it. No, I didn't direct. My friend Jonah Ray directed it.

I did produce it. Will Wheaton. Neil Gaiman. Sean Aston. Christopher Judge. Yes. You know, amazing. London Hughes, Lily Pechoo.

In a nutshell, how would you describe the show? It's a, well, it's a TV show for your ears. I would describe it like that because it's literally 10 episodes of TV I wrote, but it's just audio. And it's about a chosen one who failed and has to live with herself until one day a girl comes in and kind of blows her pathetic life up. So it's a fantasy comedy. And I play Laurel Pettigr. It's kind of like if Harry Potter choked and Voldemort just took over, that's how her life, you know, 10, 15 years of that being a loser, you don't have a lot of self-worth. And that's- Then you become a bad person. Well, no, you're just a sad, sad. I mean,

Laurel, I mean, it's interesting. Isn't Voldemore a mean guy? He's the bad guy. I mean, I don't like a Harry Potter analogy because I think, you know, J.K. Rowling is trash because of her politics. But, you know, at the end of the day. Wow. But you still could like what she's done. I mean, it's hard. I mean, it's like, yeah, it's hard. That's true. That's it. Huh. I'm going to get to something. If she was dead, it'd be one thing. But she's actively doing things every day that kind of harm people for who they are. And I'm just like, why? Why would you do that? Right. So you've lost, you went from an absolute love and admiration to absolute. You know. Yeah, I can still, I love what she created. Right. I do, you know, but I can't enjoy it. I can't be like, I can't wait for my kid. Like, my kid is now into Pokemon.

And I'm like, I can't, I can't wait. Here's a Pokemon jersey. Here's a bunch of more pokey. Every day, Pokemon cards. Here. We'll get a binder. Here's the game. She, you know, has a little Pokemon club I found on Saturday.

She can go and learn. You know, I'm just like, yay. But, you know, it's not like I'm excited to take her and introduce her to Hermione, who I think is an amazing. I understand that. I think there's something to be said, like, I'm not going to say it, but I always loved this actor. And I had met this actor. And they were, you know, they were really nice to me. And then I saw a dark side to this actor and really upset me and made me uncomfortable. And I saw how rotten this person was. And now it's hard for me to watch the

movies that he's in. And I loved those movies. I loved him like nobody else. I loved him like nobody else. wanted to be him. Wow, that's, that's tough. I wanted to, yeah, and it's difficult. It's difficult because there's some movies that you're like, wow. It's amazing work, yeah. So I understand what you're saying. Yeah, it's really hard. It's hard. It's hard. But anyway, so the show, it's, you know, and actually it was a TV show that I wanted to, I pitched and nobody bought in. It was really devastating to me that I couldn't sell this. This was right after the guilt. You know, the guild, I kind of burned out. And for several years, I couldn't write. And I came up with this idea in like 2015-16 pitched it, thought it was going to be like a hit, nobody even bought it to develop it.

And it was crushing to me. And so I kind of retreated again. I couldn't write again for a couple years. I really let it get the business get to me in a way that was not healthy. But, you know, easy to do. So then finally, when I got the opportunity in 2019, which was like four years ago, to turn it into an audible original. It was great. And we were supposed to like have a writer's room, you know, write it and have it out within a year. And the, COVID hit. So I ended up writing 400 pages of script by myself. And, you know, we stopped and started over COVID because of just delayed. Would you have table reads with the actors? No, no. I wrote it. And then I just read the script and we're going to record it. I mean, I did like 45

revisions. They used to be like 550 pages. And they were like, okay, let's cut it down. And here's some notes. And the wonderful thing about Audible is like Matt Patterson, my exec there, he gave me for the first time in my life good notes where, you know, all my holiday of development had been hell. So not too many cooks in the kitchen all the time. And now this is a time where you're like, hey, there's just this one person who has my back. Who was, you know, a writer himself and has amazing taste and, you know, it was just a pleasure

to work with. And also, you know, Hollywood, I'm sure you've developed things. They don't want to develop things for the integrity of the project. They're developing things for them, right? Yeah, it's all marketing. They hire marketing people. They sort of make the decision. Exactly.

Will this make money? No. Fuck it. Yeah. And then you're, you kind of get into the mindset as a creator, like what will sell versus It's like, what do I actually want to see? I know. You know?

So that's kind of the privilege. And that's why now, going forward, I'm not really excited to develop for Hollywood. I'm not going to rule it out, you know, but I'm really now concentrating on just telling my stories, whether it's a graphic novel or an audio project or, or, you know, whatever it is. It's small scale. It's not going to make me famous or rich, more famous or rich, but it's, I'm going to tell the stories I want to tell. And how many, how long are each episode? They're about 40 minutes. 40 minutes.

How many episodes have you done? Ten. So it's like, and it's a standalone thing, you know, it's like beginning, middle, and end. It's meant to be like a book. So, you know, Audible marketed it as an audio book, but it's fully performed by, you know, cast. So I think of it more as a TV show. Third eye. Yes. And if you, I want to read a roll, even if it's like five lines. Well, it's over. But next one. Yes. I'm going to get you in there. Get me in there. I would read something. I'd love that. And you all record together or separately. You know, we recorded it over a year ago, right when COVID was still there. So we. Recorded, you know, separate pods, but I, you know, especially like, okay, there's me, there's Sean Astin who plays Frank the vampire. Oh my God, he's so funny. I love him. He's been on the podcast like three times. I, I adore him. There's not, there's very few people that I just look at and go, I want to hold you. He's wonderful. He's literally, his spirit is one of, anyway, so he is one of the leads. London Hughes is this amazing British comic. So for like core characters and like romances, there are a couple of romantic arcs. I want to make me and Danny Pudy.

and Will Wheaton in London and a couple of others. So I had them be in, you know, separate booths but recording together just because chemistry is important. You know, I think for audio stuff, a lot of this stuff is kind of stiff and it feels like an old-timey radio play. And I was like, anything but that. And I think my friend Jonah, who's an improviser and stand-up and everything, he voice-directed and he really got a quality where you feel like people are in the room together, even if they

aren't, which is great. Right. So you're like, say it again, but be more playful. You get a little bit of a little improvise there. Do this. and then it just feels like there's two people having conversations. Yeah. And a lot of the time I was just reading with everybody,

so I read every scene like 20 times. You're exhausted. That's exhausting. Yeah. It's exhausting. It is. Those audio books and whatever when you're recording. And most of the time, they don't, do you pay the actors?

Yeah. I mean, you know, you're not retiring on it. Right, right, right. You're calling in favors. Felicia favor day. That's my name. Because they're like, one time they're like, hey, they want you to read this book. I forgot the book.

Oh, wow. And they're going to pay you $300 a session of four hours or something like, you know, it's so hard. I'm like, of reading in three hours in, you're just exhausted. But your voice is amazing. My voice? Yeah, your audio books. I don't do a lot of voiceovers anymore.

No one asks me to do that stuff. I mean, I got to get good reps. You got to get new reps. You know, I don't know what it is. I think it's more, I was so into it and doing so well at it. And then I kind of was like, ah, I don't need this right now. I'm going to go. And I came back, they're like, I'm going to go.

Oh, we already had the people we work with. Yeah. So that's fine. You know, it will happen if it happens. Work against work. Yeah. That's absolutely true. I, this is the show that I saw on the billboard, right, that I sent to you.

Yes, on Simpsons. I saw your face and it was like the new Audible, best shows of the year. And third eye, that was the one that I sent you the picture. Oh, yes. It was so sweet. I got a lot of. I was so exciting. I know.

I've never been on a billboard like that before ever for anything. They really believe in this show. You guys have to check. this out. And it's all these people that you love. So you're going to have to listen to it. No, they really bad. I mean, honestly, I mean, that was why I wanted to do it with them. Because I'm like, well, their marketing is fantastic. They like go the distance, you know. Is the listenership pretty good? Yeah. I mean, I don't have specific numbers. But it was definitely in like the top 10 for many weeks. And like they, you know, it's promoted it a lot. And I just, you know,

I was so happy to get it out there. You know, it is a strange thing to say, hey, listen to a TV show and audio. Like, it's not like something instinctively people do every day. But a lot of people are audio book listeners. And it's so easy to just put on and do other things. I, I'd rather, I'd rather listen to something than actually watch TV because then I have to sit. And I'm like, I need to go do the dishes. Yeah. I'm more of a visual person. I like documentaries. I like, but if it's something engaging and something that I like, I will, I'll zone in there. I'll get in the zone, man. You know, so that's good. I'm listening to Rob Reiner's, JFK assassination thing. That's a light. That's a light listening. Yeah, that's what I like history,

real stuff. I'm all about nonfiction. Well, we were talking about JK rolling, right? We were a little bit stern up that nest. You're disdained for her. Well, it was more disappointment. You are the richest person in one of the richest people. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And you're in desperation to people all around. Do you think that your position is going to change people's minds? And you have all that money. Go build a bunch of playgrounds. If I had that much money, I would just be building plays. playgrounds around the world. I'd be buying rainforest. I'd be helping people improve themselves. And regardless, like, this is not an issue to literally burn a franchise and harm people with. I'm just, it's so weird to me. I just say, look, in mostly in entertainment industry, it's like,

I agree with, I think why the other side gets so upset is when a lot of actors are always talking or pontificating and authors and this and about these. Now, there's certain things that you should you know, stand behind. But certain things, like, you have all the success, you have all those millions. If you really don't know exactly what you're talking about and you don't have a real knowledge and what you're talking about, shut the fuck up. Yeah, it's hard. Just shut the fuck up.

Don't wait in. Just entertain the world. And that's your thing. Your purpose is entertain and make people happy and smile and forget about their day and shut the fuck up. For the most part. Be educated. Be educated.

Be educated if you're going to speak. That's it. That's all I'm saying. I don't feel like I'm educated enough to really talk about stuff. Let people live. their lives. Nobody's getting harmed by people being who they need to be. Yeah. Just, it's simple. You mind your business. I'll buy mine. Like, I'm not hurting people. What's the deal with all this? So simple. So when I was going to ask you, and you could not, I mean, people have answered this.

But, you know, you did the thing that really prompted a lot of careers or started a lot of careers, the horrible sing-along. Oh, yeah, Dr. Horrible. Which was a big thing for all of you, which was completely inadvertent that the success of that just kind of took off you and Nathan Philean and blah. I mean, he was already a thing. Yeah. Well, not as big. That also blew him up a little more.

Well, you know, every blow up is good. Right, but it was like a big thing. It was a very big thing. And at the time, I'm sure you were like, Joss Whedon, I, you know, thank you. And he's great. But then all this stuff came out and he's kind of disappeared off the planet now. I don't hear from Joss Whedon. And I've had some guests come and talk to him and talk about him.

And, I mean, is there anything you even want to say? Like, do you feel the same way about like J.K., like you did him? I don't want my. experience to negate anybody else's experience with someone he's an amazing friend and mentor to me but at the end of the day i can only represent me and i can't definitely can't negate other people's experiences so i'm not going to say no that's but i think that's okay i think that's okay if somebody said you know people said you know hey you knew kevin spacey and i was like yeah yeah i did two movies with him and uh did he did he did he did he no i mean but like i didn't experience what other

people experience and I don't I do not it's not like I go that never would happen but my experience I just can't I can't talk about it because my experience is way different my interaction with him was completely different than everybody else's does that make sense yeah but I it's not that I don't believe other people and I don't see what's going on and all the shit that happened and hear stories and this and you're like wow wow wow I just I just didn't experience that was that the same thing Yeah. All right. We don't have to talk about it.

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Please play responsibly. What we will talk about is mystery science theater 3,000. Oh, will we? Well, I was just a big fan growing up, and I always wanted to do that. I've always tried to come up with my own show of doing that, but with horror movies. And we're sitting there and go with bad horror movies and just going, hey, look at that. I'm an axe-wielding idiot. Do you talk during movies?

Do you talk to movies? I have a horror group. Really? And every Tuesday night, we watch horror movies. A lot of times they're bad. there and we go oh another allegory of course who directed this one why do you like horror so much because i literally have never i don't think i've seen more than one or two horror movies ever um do you like like the really nasty ones like the saws and stuff or no i'm mostly into

psychological paranormal good stories thrillers sometimes if it's the effects are really great it's kind of cool to see a little bit of a slasher film because you don't really take it seriously. But I like, I like to be scared in very few films scare me. It's like an adrenaline rush. It's like when you're on a roller coaster at an amusement park. I'm like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh. And that, when that happens, it's so fun. It's so. And the reason I became a horror movie fan was because when I was eight years old, my mother had nobody to watch horror movies with. My dad was at work or he wouldn't, you know, he wouldn't want to watch him. So my mom would go, hey, I rented motel hell and make them die slowly. You want to watch them with mom?

How old were you? Eight. No. Inappropriate. Yeah. Completely. I get so, okay, some people will come up to me and, you know, God bless him. And they'll be like, oh, my son and I, we love watching Supernatural together.

And they're like four. And I'm like, I don't know, man. You know, I mean, it's that. And that's not even that scary. No. But, you know, at the end of the day, I was traumatized by Bambi and I was traumatized by Dumbo. Those two things. I don't think I ever saw those movies.

Yeah, it just involved mother death. And my mom wasn't showing me Disney shit. This is making me very concerned for your upbringing and kind of adding up a lot. I'm worried. I was not raised by the greatest role model here. You need a hug. You need. Well, listen, it's funny why I'm very, you know, a little closed off.

And like when somebody tries to be affectionate with me, I'm just like, you don't trust him. It's hard for me. Yeah. Because, yeah, because I'm not used to it. So it's not that I can't be affectionate. I can be affectionate with other people. but sometimes But you weren't affectionate with her

because it wasn't safe. Yeah, exactly. It wasn't safe to be affectionate with the one person who should be the safest. No, I couldn't confide in my parents. Or two people. That's just so tough. I would tell them something

and then I'd hear them telling their friends and I'd make fun of me. Oh my God. Oh, yeah, that happened. It was brutal. But what I'm saying is about the horror movies. I think, yeah, I just started to watch them and I met a couple of guys in college

that loved horror and we're really into and go, have you seen this? Have you seen this? And it kind of became like this little, like a book club, but with horror. That's cool. And so, you know, I became good friends with Eli Roth before, you know, he got all his big stardom. And we, we talked, I was supposed to be in the first hostel. You didn't, you didn't get to be? Yeah, first host. Yeah, first house, I was supposed to be in that, but I was filming Smallville. I was supposed to be in Cabin fever. I was filming Smallville. Would you, were you, were you frustrated with all that? Like, would you were just like, oh, I can't believe. I can't make this work out. Like, you know, I'm sure they

tried but I don't love working a lot I don't either so I like I felt like this I need to do one thing I can't do a ton of things so it scares me there's a couple of projects that I might that might happen now and I'm like what do I'd have to put a whole bunch of episodes in the can for the podcast and I have to do this what do I do with it's like I'm the same way I just got an agent for the first time in five years I have not had any representation except for voiceover and you have a lawyer I mean I do but nobody knew how to get me I was even on the break down. And, you know, I was, I'm fine with it because I really was not. You should be working all the time. Not. I mean, that's because you don't have an agent. I don't have an agent. So I just got a

manager and I'm like, okay, but I'm actually scared because what if I get a show in Toronto or, you know, what do I do I do I do? I have to give up my streaming and all my writing and like, I have a life. I like to, you know, walk my dog. Let me ask you this. I do need the money. Can you continue on doing what you're doing and making a living and being happy without getting a big show or doing this or do you feel like you need to get on a show you need to get a movie you need to do these things I mean and then do you want really to do them I don't know it's a good question I mean if it was light you know I want to be like sixth of the call show I always say that you know I just want to be a person who gets to play with other people I enjoy I'd love to be a

corner on like a procedural because they don't show up every day they get to do the fun scenes and then once the season they come out of their corner lab and they're like I always say the same thing. Yeah. My agent says, hey, they want you. They're very interested in you. Well, you're a lead. You're a lead person. No, but I don't, no, I don't want to be cool. I don't want to be a lead. Unless it's like a movie. A movie is great. A movie is great, but like a TV show, I don't know if I'm 51, you know, back issues. I don't know if I want to do that shit. I mean, I think that I love working. And the thing about me being an actor is not only the work, because I actually am get to the point where I enjoy my work. I'm less nervous and I'm less anxious about, like, I'm more confident in my performance. I know what I'm doing. But the things I love, doing are things like third eye. And my graphic novel that's coming out next year. They don't stop doing those. And I'm not, I'm never, but then the acting really helps people, you know, still be active in my career. Whereas if I just became a novelist or a writer or something, it would be harder to muster, you know, people to support the things I do on the side. And I would miss it. You know, it's fun to be on set, but you're right. I don't, I don't think I would take like 22 episode show because there's no way I

could do that in the things I love. I just don't want to do bad things anymore. What do you mean bad things? Have you done some bad work? Well, projects that I, you know, I, you know, there's some actors and God, look, if I needed to work constantly, I would do anything. I would fucking do anything. Yeah. But what I'm saying is I stop doing favors for people.

Oh, for sure. I'm not going to do your movie because you're my friend. Let me just tell you. I'm going to do it if it's really a great. movie and I want to do it. Yeah, I'll have fun on set. I'll have fun, an element of fun, and I think it could go somewhere

because I believe in it. If I don't have one of those, both of those things, I'm not going to do it. No, you know what? I have done so many, I lived on favors. The guild, I've traded everything

to make everything. And I did so many favors. And that's okay. It's fine, but I have never gotten those favors paid back. It's not like it got me work or, you know? So at this end of the day,

you got to do the favor for your own self, thinking that it never will pay off because it's not a bartering system, right? Like, people will come and show up when they need you and they will drop you like an old cigar. And people, this industry, no matter, even sometimes friends. Yeah. When you're like, you do favors for them and all of a sudden they hit it big and then all of a sudden they're doing these things. I'm like, yep.

What? You're not texting me anymore. Yep, yep. Over here, Arby's roast beef sale. And you know what? I fired all my agents and I won't even blame them. I just hired the wrong people and it wasn't their fault. I was not in a good place to know myself to know who I needed on my team. So I went with the people people said I should go with. So I don't even mind that. But when COVID hit and I fired them and then a year later COVID hit and then all these sort of like tentacles that are like touching you kind of draining your energy are gone because you're not useful anymore. It was the best experience ever. Isn't it? Because you're leaving me alone. Yeah. And it's, they weren't adding to my life. They were just taking.

And I think, you know, at the end of the day, our time is so valuable. It is. And when we give it away. Our friends. Our families. Our real friends. Yes. That is the most important thing.

The older you get, you realize it doesn't, you can't take any of this shit with you. No. The only thing that matters is seeing Ryan in the morning. Oh, it's all about Ryan here. Or it's, you know, seeing an old friend. Yes. Or talking with your grandma who's 95. You don't know how much longer.

sending her flowers and her getting, it's these moments that make you feel good, feel alive. And if you're not feeling that in your work and you have the opportunity to not do that, then great. Great. But a lot of people, unfortunately, have to work at a place, whether you're an actor or not, have to work at places where, you know, to make a living, to feed their family. And that's admirable and that's noble. And that's also, you have to do that.

Yeah. So. And also, you know, my brother's a kind of guy who has a job. and he does it well, but it's not his passion, but his job supports his passion. He loves skiing. He loves doing all these things. He loves his gardening.

So, you know, we're lucky we live our careers or our passions. You don't need that in life to be happy. You just have to have a passion, whether it's, you know, your family, whether there's a hobby, a combination thereof. You just have to have something that means something to you every day in some capacity, I think, to have, you know, meaning. Can you sing that song by who? Who's that singer, Melissa Etheridge, if it makes... If it makes you happy. That's it. What is it?

If it makes you happy. And it can't be that bad. Yeah. You're trained. Cheryl Crow. Not really. Cheryl Crow. Oh, sorry.

Sorry, Cheryl Crow. Cheryl Crow, guys, don't know. Boy. I don't like that song anyway. Mystery Science Theater 3,000, briefly. Oh, yeah. Because we're going to get to some questions. How was your time and experience on that?

Oh, well, it was... So I only got that job because I met Joel, Hodgson, in the green room at a convention just to take a selfie with him to rub it in my brother's face because we were huge fans as kids. And through that selfie encounter, he emailed me and asked me to be on the show. I thought as a guest star, turns out I was a forester. I was a mad. And I started crying when he asked me. It was incredible.

And I've done two seasons and boy, boy. Yeah, I know. Can you do me a favor? Would you mind just emailing him and saying, by the way, Michael Rosamone wants to know that he is in love with that show and always has been. Just say that. I will tell him that, you know?

Please. And if you ever wants me on to do anything, I would do anything. Hell yeah. Yeah, no, it's, so whenever I hear Joel's voice in person, it's like, well, I like startled because he has such a distinctive voice, you're just like, is it the TV or is it Joel? This has been awesome. It's so easy.

It's effortless, isn't it? I know. You're good. You're good. Eight years? How long you been doing this podcast? Six years? How many years?

I think six years. Six years? So I did come after my baby because she's almost seven this month. Okay. But it must have been super. Yeah, it was super early. You were cheap. Wow.

I must have been out of my mind. Yeah. Well, you were cool, though. You were a little intimidating. I think you were moody. No, you weren't. You were great. I was excited for a second.

I was like, ooh, I intimidated Rosie. I think you might have been. Oh, good. You might have. That makes me happy. Everybody was intimidating me then. I was way intense back then. I was still like.

Yeah, you were intense. definitely lighter now. I don't... I don't have a company anymore. Never want a company. Yeah, screw companies. No, no. Responsibility, employees, payroll.

No. My last question is... Okay. Wait, I didn't get charged for my donut. It was free with this Tim's rewards points. I think I just stole it. I'm a donut stealer. Ooh.

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small hot coffee, and more. Limited time only at participating Wendy's taxes extra. who growing up or even being an actor who's your hero and have you ever met a hero that made you like go i wish i wouldn't have met that hero i mean we already talked about the incident with you that must have been horrible um yeah you know i met i mean i loved i okay i was homeschooled as you know so i didn't watch like tv like other kids i was not up on the pop culture of the time you know the late 80s 90 you know when i was actually growing up so i thought that The Hepburns were basically my heroes.

Audrey and Catherine, Hepburn, Catherine Hepburn Moore, because she's zany and she's like exactly who she needs to be and there's nobody like her. And I, you know, I think that's kind of me. I'm not everybody's flavor, but I'm confident in my flavor. So if you like it, let's play.

If not, I guess I'll move on. I love it. So, yeah, I guess that's it. And I haven't met any heroes necessarily. No, no. All right. That's good. Thank goodness, yeah.

I met Sir Ben Kingsley one time. and Patrick Stewart, and they were both lovely, and I was, like, trembling. I met Morgan Freeman at the Golden Globes. And I was just like, I just have to say hi. I know it's annoying, but I'm an actor, and I'm just, I look up to you, and I think you're wonderful, and I was nervous. He's like, oh, yeah, that's very nice of you. Oh, nice of you.

He's like, would you like to have a picture? What? He offered the picture? Yeah, he offered it. Stop it. Let's get a picture or something like that. Oh, he's incredible. I was with my friend Chris.

Yeah, we were so excited. I met James Cromwell once, because Babe is my favorite movie. And I put my hand in his unwarranted, and I started crying. And I said, I find Felicia started sobbing. I love your work. And he looked to me like I was an alien. Well, this has been a blast. You guys, third eye is unaudible.

She loves this. She's passionate about it. And usually when you're really passionate about something, it shows it comes out. And I implore you ask you to check this out because it's got so many great people in it. And she's worked her ass off. And it was one of the best shows Audible had. And that's huge. So check it out.

Thank you. Yes. This has been a damn pleasure. I know. I've got to come back before six years, all right? Because then I'll have a teenager. Any time. As long as it's been a year.

Okay. That's my thing. It's every year. I don't want to cut. I would have nothing to talk about within a year. Yeah. I never have guests. Except we never really talked about our ailments.

I mean, we can talk about that next time. Next time, it's an ailments podcast. Yeah. Okay. Alments with Felicia Day. Hashtag ailments. all right all right i love you thank you i love you too bye lovely conversation i hope you guys enjoyed that um very appreciative of felicia for coming on

the podcast and uh you should follow her and listen to her and uh she's a joy she's an absolute joy uh what do we got here i think before we uh leave if you didn't listen to the beginning the intro have a listen will you because that's got all the information my instagram link where you can find all information where i'm going where i'll be all that supporting patreon if you want to support this podcast patron is something that has become a family uh it's p a t r e o n patreon patreon slash inside of you and it's amazing because there's this uh what do you call it ryan there's this um community community of people that have become friends and they talk small they talk life they've just become lifelong friends and i and i love that patron has as has created such a

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Or it could just be her last name first. Hmm. Huh. There's a last name N.G. Okay. Tasha S. Keith B. Waffles. I love my waffles. How do you like your waffles, Ryan? Blueberry. Ooh. A little butter.

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We'll see you soon. Message me. Say hello. Instagram's at the Michael Rosenbaum. Link tree with all that stuff. And most importantly, Ryan, say it. Oh, be good to yourself. It's that easy.

Be good to yourself. I'm trying. The fart book is here. There's the fart book. I found it. Yeah, it's pre-order. They didn't even tell me. And then I asked them, they go,

oh, yeah, we like to pre-order stuff five months in a head. But it's going to be in, I guess, every bookstore around the country come October. It's so much fun this book. I hope you enjoy it. Anyway, enough about me, more about you. Take care of you. I'll see you next week. Thanks so much.

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