Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Henry Winkler Returns

Episode Date: June 9, 2020

Henry Winkler (Happy Days, Barry) checks into the show this week to talk about the idea of acknowledging and accepting one's shortcomings in order to continue pursuing your passions. Henry opens up ab...out his self improvement through therapy and how he sees this process as strength building rather than weakness uncovering. We also talk about his experience on Barry and Happy Days, some of the peers he’s been able to build a rarely genuine friendship with, and his reaction to finally winning an Emmy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. I was trying to feel or act a little more excited, a little more pep in my step. But, yeah, this last week, things catch up to you. And, you know, it's hard because you don't know, like, I'm not going to feel sorry for myself. I'm not going to, you know, how dare I? There's all these people suffering and protesting and all this stuff. And, you know, it's just horrible.
Starting point is 00:00:37 So you don't feel like you have the right to feel anything except, I don't know, me. Anyway, I feel guilty. Like, why should I feel, why should I feel anxious? Why should I feel depressed? Well, because it's the world we're living in. That's why. And it's everywhere. So in other news, we got a great guest today.
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Starting point is 00:01:38 by then, who knows? I don't know. I just can't. I can't not plan for things. I'm not going to just cancel things because it sucks now. And I will say this. I don't get political. I said one tweet on the on the Twitter and it just said if you are not upset by what happened to George Floyd you're not a human being and I that's that's the one tweet I sent I stand by it I can't imagine anyone watching that and thinking otherwise I don't get political but this is it's heartbreaking and every time I've seen it I won't watch it anymore it just it feels like the first time I can't believe I'm watching that something like that would happen and the guy with a pocket his hand in his pocket it just man it just I mean enrages me so callous sitting there
Starting point is 00:02:38 like hey man is I'm not going to get it you've heard it a million times so let's get away from that let's get into something else let's get into Henry Winkler the Fonz Barry you love this guy he's been in a lot of Sandler films scream the guy is just I love this man and he's sort of like a father figured him. He always checks in on me. And we're going to check in on him. So let's get inside of Henry Winkler. It's my point of you. You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of You was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. Is there an introduction? No. we're just starting yeah yeah i do an introduction later oh you do i obviously we worked together
Starting point is 00:03:31 a long time ago you were on here a while ago when the podcast first started and i remember being in a plane with you and i remember then you were always clean i'd call it maybe a little oCD in a way i'm ocd with certain things you oh no no i i i carried for my entire um uh at least the last 10 years. I washed down the entire area in the pocket, the magazines. I watched it. People next to me. I watched the people next to me. My arm. Yeah. Your arm. Uh, because I always thought, you know, the wonderful people who clean a plane are under such pressure to clean it so fast in order to get the next passengers on. I wasn't sure the airline cared about the cleanliness I needed.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Well, you know, that made me think of today and the situation we're all in, and it made me think, wow, if Henry was cleaning shit up then, boy, is he looking out now. I don't imagine you to be a person who has left the house probably in quite some time. No, I leave the house. I need to walk. So let me ask you, with all this,
Starting point is 00:04:48 I look at you and you look, well, you look comfortable. You've got the beer going. Are you growing the hair out in the beard? Is it for Barry when it ever comes back? No, you know what? We were one day away from filming. We were at the table reading the scripts all together as a can. So you knew the lines probably for the first episode.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And we were sent home and I've never left. You know, I go to the grocery store. Now I've stopped doing that. My children have begged me not to go. Well, you're healthy, but, still but max and zoe go what do they tell you to go to instacart and right you know can i get you something uh they will go instead but i love just going out you know with my mask and my gloves and i take a uh i take my uh my chlorox oh yes you do so when i take something off the
Starting point is 00:05:48 shelf i wipe it down before i put it in my car i love it love that i mean you're someone who is so busy your entire life you you look at your resume you look at henry is always doing something he's directing he's producing he's writing he's at a con he's at you're lecturing you're being a dad you're being um so you're always doing something and all of a sudden now a lot of people look at this i'm i'm not saying so many people have it way worse this is not a we're not talking about that i'm just saying how i'm just saying how it affects people's lives and how your life has been affected? Well, it slowed us down.
Starting point is 00:06:25 We started doing jigsaw puzzles. You know, if it goes on much longer, I will have to think because, you know, as a family, there are 13 members now. And people need help. There are good acquaintances of the family who need help. So you do it.
Starting point is 00:06:51 you can. Do you think there is the world that needs help and you do what you can. Well, what about therapy? Do you feel like, you know, I could probably use therapy. I believe in therapy. Do you go to therapy? I have gone to therapy, yeah. Recently. Yeah, recently, sure. I love therapy. I have learned the more you know about yourself, the more you know about every human being on this, on this earth. And what if you do you know, have you found out about yourself that you didn't know? I was not necessarily as strong as I thought I was. I was not as together as I thought I was.
Starting point is 00:07:40 And then through therapy, you learn, you know what I think, you know, this is exactly way I see it. I see myself as a big block of Swiss cheese. And through therapy, I'm trying to become cheddar. I'm trying to fill in all the holes. Are there some things that you, when you find out about yourself, is it sort of, are you taking a back bite? Like, wow, is that me?
Starting point is 00:08:05 Am I not? Do you aspire to prove, I don't know, prove your therapist wrong? But when you hear something, they say, you're like, I want to be more of that. How do I get there? And do you see yourself doing the work? I say that. I say when I find something I go not that I'm you know what it does it makes me sad that it took me this long to figure that out whatever that is I wasted so much time in my life um you know not looking for the answer not looking for a way to
Starting point is 00:08:47 blossom like a flower like a rose you know i wish i had done it uh in my 20s but what is that one thing is it a culmination of things uh i'm more defensive than i thought of it was you're a defensive person i can be and i i thought i wasn't and who did is it something you hear from other people for a while and then you realize oh wait they're right and you kind of, I don't believe you. I'm not defensive. I'm, and then someone objectively tells you, you know, no, I finally, when you talk about it, I finally see the behavior happening, going, oh, this is it. You know, when, when you are first told about something, whether it be from a friend or your spouse or your children or your therapist or whatever it is, it sounds like they're
Starting point is 00:09:44 speaking Russian when they're trying to tell you about yourself and you're not open to see it. It's like a foreign language. And one day, all of a sudden it makes sense. You go, oh, that's what they meant because you're actually seeing it in action. And what do you get from that? What do you get from that when you, honestly, when you realize what you're doing, Exactly what I get. You could catch yourself.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I get, I get, I go, I'll tell you what I get. I get, oh, I, I, I love emerging from the cocoom. Yeah. I'm coming out and I'm feeling good. Do you just feel bigger, more expensive? I can see it happening now It just makes you happy that you've acknowledged that Do you find yourself why you're doing this
Starting point is 00:10:48 Why you're talking to someone And you could feel yourself defensive And do you ever stop yourself and saying Do you acknowledge it? I'm being defensive or are you just correct? No, I do. You know, I used to do this with my kids They would come in
Starting point is 00:11:05 And I would be angry about something, you know. a rule broken or whatever. And all of a sudden, I would hear my parents fly out of my mouth. And I would go, what? All right, hold it. That's not what I meant to say. That's not the way I meant to say it. I'm backing up.
Starting point is 00:11:29 This is what I meant to say. And you know what? When you admit that, your children don't think you're weak or you're less than. They go, oh, wow, thanks. Wow, you acknowledge me. And this is at six or 26. Go, yeah, oh, yeah. Or they would come in and I would be in touch and I would go, what?
Starting point is 00:11:58 I just want to say, it's right here. Whatever is bothering me is right here. And it's going to come right out so you have a choice. You can either continue or leave the room and come back and let's talk later. And eventually, the children would come in, size me up. I'll see you later. Maybe just know. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:27 You know what, Dad? I'm going to take a break. Yeah. I'm going to get you a break. I'm not going to talk to you about this right now. I'm going to come back. Oh, my God. I just don't think that.
Starting point is 00:12:38 was in my parents' vocabulary. I don't think, you know. Do you know what? It is something that you do with other people. And then you make it something you do. It can be an adult. It can be a child. It can be anybody.
Starting point is 00:12:55 When you're in touch, just to say, you know what, now is not a good time. And I'm telling you, you do that twice, another human being, if they are at all, aware they're going to see oh yeah you know what i'll come back i'm going to have a bagel in some
Starting point is 00:13:16 some cream case there's there's something really powerful about that and i'll tell you what else is powerful it's powerful when you could when you're sitting there and you're having a conversation and you start to realize why am i pushing this why why am i pushing this person and still sort of even though you're like i'm right i'm right why am i doing this though what do i have to why am i why do I have to be right and there's something in stopping yourself and saying you know what I'm sorry I this is just to stop and say hey this is ridiculous I'm I'm worked up about this and I don't need to be right and you don't need I don't know I've done that and when I do that I feel better to just stop and say apologize to someone because you know what you're exactly
Starting point is 00:14:00 right Michael and I and I'll tell you that to just make that your habit oh I just realized I'm reflected in the Steve Martin poster behind you. I'm on the screen twice. You are? Yeah. For you, but not for me. If you turned around, you would see that I'm in the poster, right, by the red bottom. You know Steve Martin?
Starting point is 00:14:23 You know Steve Martin pretty long? I met him twice. I went to see his show at the Trubidor. Right. I met him on the plane. going to Las Vegas to celebrate a birthday. He was on the plane. He, I did him a favor, four times.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I did him a favor when he appeared at Universal Amphitheater, and I just walked on stage when he was singing King Tut. King Tut, moved from the one, I walked behind him. And because I did him that favor when I produced Ron Howard's celebration for Cinematheck. He got the Cinematheque Award.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I don't know if they even do that anymore. Ron Howard, I mean, Steve Martin came and was part of that celebration. So you consider him a friend? No, an acquaintance. An acquaintance. It's hard to differentiate that in Hollywood, isn't it? I mean, you meet a friend.
Starting point is 00:15:31 one, you see them, you get along, you know, everybody's friends, everybody's, you know, oh yeah, I'm friends with that guy, I'm friends with that guy. Acquaintance is kind of like, you know. I met him. I no longer think, I no longer think. I saw, and I can't mention names, but I'm walking on the beach in Malibu, and I saw two titans at that time in the industry. One, was the head of a massive agency one was the head of a studio and they were best friends but their friendship was as best as their need was and as soon as the need was over and the industry changed so when when people don't need other in a certain way. I need you for this. In this industry anyway. Isn't that something?
Starting point is 00:16:36 Yeah. Now, there are certain people that are really good friends. You and I have stayed in touch. We have stayed close. We did a pilot many years ago that didn't go anywhere. And there has never been a need for us to be friends except for we really like each other. Yeah, I do. I admire you. I feel like you're a mentor, not only to me, but for, you know, a lot of people. And I just like you. You know, I think of, I always tell you this, but my one regret is not going fly fishing with you. And I will someday show up somewhere where you're fly fishing. It's a magnificent thing to do fly fishing.
Starting point is 00:17:17 But a general friendship in this industry is based on need, the need of each other in the industry, not because we respect each other. That makes me sad, and I know you're right. It's a reality. And it also makes you sort of be a little guarded with people, doesn't it? It makes you feel like, you know, I know what they want for me, and they're nice to me now when they need me. That's another thing I learned. You don't have to be guarded.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I have learned to let people in varying degrees. I enjoy people very much. I enjoy meeting people. And then, but I don't have to let them all the way in in order to be then disappointed and have to flush them out. What about Bill Hater? Oh, Bill Hater. Will he be a friend for life?
Starting point is 00:18:20 I hope so. I have great talks with Bill. I do great work with Bill. he guides me he writes for me I mean I'm only talking about myself now not just the rest but we have had wonderfully
Starting point is 00:18:40 oh my wife is called get it get it yeah hi honey I'm at the computer I'm doing a Zoom interview with Michael Rosenbaum tell her I said hello so I'll call you later
Starting point is 00:18:56 Bill Hater So you say you hope Because it's a relationship you have It's not like you go dancing with him You don't go eating with them at Sometimes you have lunch But you know this is a work relationship You like him, you enjoy him
Starting point is 00:19:09 I really like him How do you not? He seems like such a wonderful guy He's so complex He's such a great creator And Goofy Seemed like a wonderful
Starting point is 00:19:26 dad he i i'm crazy about him that's awesome i i you know only time will tell you know how many leading men can you say that about that you've worked with where you're not you know you're obviously you're both so important to the show you're both Emmy award winners and but like how many guys have you worked with co-stars that you actually really like um well adam sandler Ron Howard definitely um um um the other the other guys from happy days marian ross oh yeah oh my god oh my god uh oh oh jason bateman i always write jason bateman about uh what he has done either i've seen him in a movie or uh you know his uh ozark i mean there are others there are others there are some people that I called
Starting point is 00:20:26 after we worked together in the 80s. Right. And I'm still waiting for them to return to them. And we're at 2020. Son of a bitch. And I'm an internal optimist. Do you get offended when someone doesn't reciprocate when someone
Starting point is 00:20:43 if you send a message you back to you, you get a little offended. It hurts you. It used to. It took me a while to send a message. I've done what I wanted to do. That's it. Do you ever send another one just in case that went to junk?
Starting point is 00:21:00 No. Because a lot of times they are handwritten letters. That's special. I don't think a lot of people write, have handwritten letters. Yeah, sometimes I feel so compelled to write a letter. Sam Rockwell, he did a, with Michelle Williams. I wrote them both. Sandy Newton.
Starting point is 00:21:23 there is an English show called Line of Duty Line of Duty It's on I shouldn't say this because I I'm an HBO guy But it's on another network I think that's okay
Starting point is 00:21:40 You could do that It's okay You like other shows that are on another networks That's normal Sandy Newton in season four was Wow Extraordinary That was almost a
Starting point is 00:21:53 Christopher Walken, you did just there. Wow. Christopher Walken. I worked with him in Click. What a guy. You know what? I was a freshman at Yale Drama School. As a freshman, you couldn't act.
Starting point is 00:22:11 So I was an usher. And Christopher Walken started as a dancer on Broadway. He was a dancer. And he was, then he turned actor, and he was hired by the professional repertory company at Yale to play in Caligula. Wow. And I watched him every night. He was amazing.
Starting point is 00:22:40 And then years later, I was in Click with him. And what did you say to him? You came up to him and said it, Chris. I was at Yale. I was there. I was a student when you were a professional in the company. I remember that. I did call, like, yeah, was a tough one.
Starting point is 00:22:55 I don't remember if he remembered because he's a very idiosyncratic fellow. Then I saw him on Broadway, and I, with Zoe Kazan and Sam Rockwell in, I left my hand, or I left my left hand in Seattle. That's probably not the title. But he was, they were amazing. That's awesome. Yeah, I worked with Walking too, and I just remember, you know, me at the very end of the shoot, I wait until the last day.
Starting point is 00:23:27 And I said, hey, could you sign my, um, it was King of New York DVD. It was like 90 something. He goes, sure. And I go, yeah, I just put to Michael, uh, from Chris, whatever. So he goes, to Michael from Chris, walking. and then he wrote 2020 circled and goes oh no 2001 whatever it was he goes no it's 2000 not that it matters but it was it was 2000 he circled it goes 2000 in my face I'll tell you he what he's a weird guy wow but so good so talented inside of you is brought
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Starting point is 00:28:00 you know on on twitter how you know you always i like how you just sort of talk about what's happening with you and one thing kind of just you know you say i know you're dyslexic you know you've written books about these things about a character or character the character can I show you can I be it's my newest book with Lynn Oliver
Starting point is 00:28:21 what it's a middle school reader and it's called Alien Superstore we just turned in the second volume the second installment and it's about this alien who leaves his planet
Starting point is 00:28:37 and the rocket ship lands the only address they know in America, which is the back lot of Universal Studios. And he gets a job on a sitcom as an alien. And what is the sort of the message in there? Well, the underlying message is a comedy. We write only comedies. But the underlying message is body shaming because the star of the show,
Starting point is 00:29:04 the mother who manages the female star of the show that our alien gets on, is always worried about calories, always worried about her, and, you know, lets her have the salad, but not the egg, can't have the egg in the salad. It's about what happens if I acknowledge and say what my true self is, will I still be accepted? Because he can transform into an earthling. His real name is Buddy Burger on the earth. buddy because the first person he meets on the earth keeps calling him buddy
Starting point is 00:29:43 hey buddy where you from hey buddy what's your name buddy and burger is because he sees a stammed just over the guy's shoulder that says cheese burgers 495 so he goes buddy burger that's how he gets his name see it's and this is for middle middle kids middle So like a fourth to seventh grade. How important is that? How important is it for them to have that message, those messages of respect? It's also friendship keeping your word. And we don't hit anybody on the head.
Starting point is 00:30:22 It's just woven into the, you know, it's like Hank Zipser. Yep. There were so many lessons in that. How many did you do? How many books of Hank Zips? There have been 35 novels for children. And you just ended that probably. probably a couple years ago, right?
Starting point is 00:30:39 Two years ago. Two years ago. That was 28. 28 novels all told in the hangsips. Is this a lot of work? Writing this book? You know, it is a lot of work, and it's hard for me. I mean, that is the partnership is amazing.
Starting point is 00:30:54 There are so many different kinds of partnerships because Lynn does the heavy lifting. I do the walking, the talking. She does the sitting at the computer, the typing. she knows the rules of writing and then she's got an idea and I sit back and then she does the typing and then reads it back to me
Starting point is 00:31:16 and we argue over every word so we're completely intertwined in the process but if I didn't have her there would be no blow you said because we got into this because I said dyslexic you said I'm dyslexic and when I'm driving the location to set
Starting point is 00:31:34 I have to call the first assistant director 12 times to guide me otherwise I would never be on camera GPS guides me to nowhere Yeah it's true I have it on my phone I've got ways I've got the GPS I type in the exact address
Starting point is 00:31:50 I then all of a sudden I'm daydreaming and I didn't hear where the hell the left was so I have to call whoever the AD is and say okay this is where I am how do I get to you? And I always leave early to leave room for getting lost.
Starting point is 00:32:11 I have driven by with my wife, our house, after dinner, when we used to be able to go out. I drove. She said, were you going to turn into the driveway or are you surprising me? Does this happen a lot? Does it worry your wife? Like, I need you to go see a doctor. I need you to have your mind looked at. or does she this has always been part of henry she knows my problem has this always been though
Starting point is 00:32:38 besides the dyslexia always i can't find my keys i don't help me technically i could never zoom you have to invite me i can i don't know how to invite somebody right but so this has nothing to do i mean you're obviously a really smart guy i can't figure out things that others you know i have you know difficult i've always like with reading and things like that and comprehending i have to usually read it a couple of times. I have to absorb it. My ADD. It just is too overwhelming where I have to really focus. And it's hard. So learning lines. Do you have problems with that? Absolutely. I work on it and I know I've got a problem. You know, what it is, it's also accepting this is who I am. So this is what I have to do if I want to pursue what I love. Yeah. I thought I couldn't fly fish
Starting point is 00:33:30 because I don't have great eye-hand coordination. I played ball, softball for the first time when I was 28 years old for the team, the Happy Days team. They taught me in between scenes on the set, Stage 19, Paramount Studios, Walter von Juni, was our dialogue coach supervisor. and Ron and Anson and Donnie taught me how to play ball in behind the cameras. Were you good? Did you turn out being a good player? I was a great pitcher and couldn't catch an all right hitter and I could run fast. But I became like a shutout pitcher. Isn't it something that you probably focus so much on what you
Starting point is 00:34:26 were really good at that that's why he got great because you were like if i can't be good at these other things this is what i'm going to be great at yeah but i never i never thought i could be good like fishing i never i i i wasted so much time not fishing because i thought i couldn't fish instead of just try see that's i think that's a message that i'm going to write a book for middle uh middle graders middle school kids about just trying I think that's a very, very important thing you say. For years and years, I'm like, well, I don't sing well. I'm not a great singer.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I could kind of sing, you know, so I shouldn't make an album. And then I said, fuck it. I'm going to make an album. And I made an album. And it came out last year. And I love it. And I, you know, this is, and I'm starting to really, it's, and it's hard to believe. But when you start doing things just because you love them and you want to do them and you
Starting point is 00:35:19 don't think about, I'll fail. I have nothing to say except you're correct. Right. And you're probably a great. fisherman. I, my style is ugly, but I catch the fish. All right. This is called shit talking with Rosenbaum. It's for my patrons. They're very devoted fans. Answer these quickly. Molly W. With the sometimes cynical and self-centered world we live and how do you fight through the negativity to be such a positive and loving light? Some of it is natural. Some of it is just the way I think.
Starting point is 00:35:53 others is if I let that cynicism in I feel horrible do I want to feel that way no I broom it out Emily asks what has been your favorite
Starting point is 00:36:11 project to work with Adam Sandler I never have a favorite because it's always the next one like I don't have a favorite book because I always think the next one this is it this is definitely it until the next one, at which time I go, oh, no, no, no, no, it's this one. Jennifer N. Jennifer, Ann, do you still keep in touch with some of the cast from Happy Days?
Starting point is 00:36:33 I do. All of them that are still with us, I do. Nico P., you've accomplished so much in your career, what keeps you still motivated, motivated still. I don't know. I love what I do. You know, acting is like a puzzle where you have to create a human being, except All the pieces are variations of blue. And I have to put it together and it makes me so happy. Lucas M. Love your character on Barry. Does your inspiration for your character, Gene, come from a real-life acting coach that you had in the past? There was an acting coach here in L.A. that I never had, that people told me that they,
Starting point is 00:37:23 wrote. I've had teachers. I've had from college and graduate school in theater, I had 14 teachers on which to draw on my imagination. I have taught four master classes in my life. I taught three at Emerson and one at, no, five, one at South by Southwest and one at Northwestern. And I drew on that. Wow. And then he came out. This year, I don't know what's going to happen. Because now I know, and I don't know how they're going to take where they're going to take the story.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Do you have any saying that? No. Jamie H., who's your favorite actor and why? That could be of all time. You mean of all time? It could be anybody now, then. Anthony Hopkins, Spencer Tracy, Ron Howard, because he was like an unbelievable acting art.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Oh, my God. Bill, I would have to say Bill. You know, the kids in my class on Barry, each one of them is a home run hitter unto themselves, and they have so little to do, and yet we are so tight. Um, Ryan, um, handsome, younger. Gosselin? Gossling. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Okay. I couldn't. Hey, Tim H. What was your favorite, uh, what was your favorite guy to hang? What, what's that? I love him. Tim H. I don't know him, but he's handsome.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Who's your favorite guy to hang out with on Better Late Than Never show? Oh, each one is unto themselves. Bill Hater, Bill Hater, Bill Shatner. You love Bill? Bill Shatner has read every book ever written by a human being on the planet and wants you to know what's on every page. Terry Bradshaw is as big as Oklahoma. This is my imitation of George Foreman. where anywhere at any time day or night he sits down out like a light no he can nap through chaos that's a gift
Starting point is 00:40:08 henry i wish i could just sleep like that that is a gift andrew see jeff die is adorable jeff i love jeff die yeah jeff die just got a new puppy he calls a butt I think he's called bud and the dog is gorgeous I'm watching the dog grow up on Twitter I love that little dog he's such a good guy I just did his podcast Andrew C what's been your favorite television series
Starting point is 00:40:36 to direct to direct for to date and why I would have to say not a television series but a movie called Memories of Mey Starring Billy Crystal and Alan King, memories of me.
Starting point is 00:40:57 And it just touches me. Carly T. What three books would you recommend to all children who have a chance to read? To all children. There is, I don't know the name of it, but it is, it has no words. It is by a French artist, and it is color. And there's yellow. and you press on the yellow and you turn the page and you've pushed yellow and blue together in this green.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Amazing. That's pretty damn cool. Yeah. There is, well, for children who have a hard time reading, I would have to say, um, Hank Zipser, because I'll show you why. Please. these are first second and third grade readers
Starting point is 00:41:55 here's Hank and you'll notice that the font is different from all other fonts because it makes it easier for the beginning reader to negotiate their eyes and the page I wish I had this growing up Me too.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Here's Hank. I'm not kidding. I'm not because I'm associated with it. It's incredible. And they're funny. I love how proud you are, but you should be proud of that book. Can I ask you one more question? One more.
Starting point is 00:42:36 You're winning an Emmy. Winning an Emmy. I mean, was it unexpected? Were you really truly not feeling that you weren't going to win? I have been nominated about a million times before. You sit there. The first Emmy I was ever nominated, somebody gave me a silver keychain that was a thumb.
Starting point is 00:43:03 You rubbed your thumb on it. It was a worry keychain. And I was supposed to take it with me. And I have been nominated. My name has been called. I never left my chair. And from 1970-ye until 2018, 19-19, my name has been called, and I left my chair, and it was exhilarating. Were you excited? Were you nervous?
Starting point is 00:43:43 I was nervous. I was excited. I'm proud. I love that once in my life, I have won the prize of our industry. I'm sorry. You know, some people say, I don't care. You know, what is it neat? It's an award.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Yeah, you know, some people say, I use it as a doorstop in the bathroom. I actually don't. And I think that's bullshit when they say that. the dining room table and uh fuck it fuck it well listen this has been great listen i love i love the beard it's just different it's like i could see you was jack nicholson day 14 of the shining zoe i want you to pick me up some goddamn frozen peas and max get your ass over here and i want you to do something with the dog because it's bothering me you look like nicholson kind of rachel
Starting point is 00:44:38 that's great oh thanks now he i met three or four times And I, he is a one of my favorite actors. He is, he's like touched by God. Was he nice in person? Yes. Like you liked him. Yes. What did he say?
Starting point is 00:44:55 He was like, how are you, Henry? Yeah. Nice. He spoke in syllables. You know, I met, he spoke in syllables. Well. And I was, I was thrilled to meet him in person. How many times have you seen The Shining?
Starting point is 00:45:13 I want. Did you love it? I'm not great at scary. You don't like scary. All right. Well, well, listen, I love you. I'm going to call you. I'm going to email you.
Starting point is 00:45:25 I might even write your handwritten letter. Okay. You know, thank you for allowing to be inside of you again. I love you, sir. Bye. Bye. I love Henry Winkler. Who doesn't love Henry Winkler?
Starting point is 00:45:38 It was so funny. Just at the end, he's like, well, Michael, I'm getting tired. which means enough with the interview. It's our second time. I mean, the guy is, you know, he's a legend. And he's a friend. And I'm just grateful that he did it, that he came back and talked about how he's feeling what's going on in his world. And it's always a pleasure to have him on.
Starting point is 00:46:05 June 20th, Rob Danson and I are doing two stages, both Pacific time, 2 o'clock p.m. on Saturday, June 20th and then six o'clock. The two o'clock is for the overseas fans and friends. And the six o'clock is for the same for everyone. We played a stage it a couple weeks ago. And it just was so much fun. We played some really cool covers, some originals, a couple left on the oral songs. And I just loved it. There'll be some great prizes. And a shout out to all my charities. Ronald McDonald House, we raised a lot of money. Tom, Kristen, and I for the Ome's reunion thing. a lot of money and it just made me really happy
Starting point is 00:46:46 that we did my charity of choice for Ronald McDonald House of Los Angeles but you could donate to any Ronald McDonald's house FoodonFoot.org hugely helps the organization become a $98 club member I'm one I'll see you down there when we can go down there and do the feedings again
Starting point is 00:47:02 great folks, great people who are homeless who just want to have a new life and echoes of hope and of course arm animal rescue mission my friend Shira I'm sure you're seeing tweets and retweets of mine But make sure you help those animals out, man
Starting point is 00:47:18 She has just She's single like me But she spends her entire life helping animals So also make sure you You follow If you're listening and you're liking the show I'd just encourage you to email a bunch of friends And say please subscribe and listen
Starting point is 00:47:31 And give it a chance That's all I ask You know the handles at Inside of You podcast on Instagram And at Inside You Pod on Twitter We're on Facebook The Patreon I love it Inside of your Patreon account I've got over 500 beautiful patrons and we do so many fun things.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Check that out. Check out a tier. There's so many different levels. I mean, you can come on for, I think you come on for nothing, can't you? Just whatever. Just look at it and see if you like it. It's a great community and people are becoming friends and I could name them off the top of my head, most of them. And then the other patron is John Heater and I, if you like horror movies, where have all the good horror movies gone?
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Starting point is 00:48:45 Hamza, I just sent a package. Jennifer M. A lot of people I sent a package to for those tiers on patrons. Jennifer N. Stacey B. Carly T. Vanessa in the sky. Ream. Jennifer S. Janelle B. N. Tabb of the C. Kimberly E. Melissa C. We're almost done. Mikey. Jake M. Marisa N.
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Starting point is 00:49:40 There's a list of just top tier patrons. I mean, and every patron out there who listens to the show or who gives zero, but just listens to it or gives a buck a month or whatever it is, I don't care. It's just brilliant that you support the podcast and keep it going.
Starting point is 00:49:55 And I've got to do some bonus stuff today after I'm done recording here. I'd like to read a letter, fan letter. This is from Bobby. Hi, Mr. Rosenbaum. I'd like, how about Michael or Rosie? I feel so old. I'm Mr. Rosenbaum. Mr. Rosenbaum.
Starting point is 00:50:11 This is Bobby, and I'm so grateful for your kind words in these troubled times. I've listened to your episodes with Dave Batista and Justin Long and thought they were great and looked forward to hearing more. Again, thanks so much. It truly puts a smile on my face. Bobby H. All right, this is another fan letter from Audrey. My dad rarely told me he loved me until I was an adult.
Starting point is 00:50:31 He wasn't affectionate and had the worst temper I've ever seen in a human. He often said and did things that hurt deeply. hurt deeply and that was how he showed how he loved me I guess he was not the type of man who would just go for a walk he didn't want me to be afraid and that was how he taught he thought he could help me he expressed his love in ways that I couldn't understand until I was older I also know now that he suffered a lot of pain inside for a long time enough though I try to let go of all the pain and abuse I went through as a kid I know that I could hold on to that love that's what I can choose to keep from my father.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I don't know that I would have been able to come to that conclusion had I not listened to your podcast. So thank you to you and your whole team. Thank you so much. Please keep doing what you're doing. I'm going to say that again. Please keep doing what you're doing. Audrey, you got me.
Starting point is 00:51:29 I feel something right in here and it makes me feel, I don't know, makes me feel like maybe sometimes I'm doing something right I'm glad I helped you I'm glad just me being honest maybe helped you and I always love it when you know whether I say something or a guest usually it's the guest say something
Starting point is 00:51:56 and it's someone out there it connects with whether it's Mary or Raj or Audrey or Leah or Leanne or Little Lisa or I mean I can go on but it makes me feel damn good and it makes me feel good to be a human being and it makes me want to keep doing this so thank you so much thanks to my guest Henry Winkler and thank you guys thank you for allow me to be inside each and every one of you and again we got new merch on the inside of you inside of you
Starting point is 00:52:35 online we got sweatshirts they're going fast uh black shirts with uh my face on it and uh a gray shirt that just says inside of you and um so it's cool and uh i'm shipping them all out myself right now so uh i love you all thank you for uh supporting me supporting this show podcast to enhance your football experience from the pros one of the most interesting quarterback room to college michigan is set at eight and a half wins to fantasy if you feel that way why didn't you trade them become a better fan and listen to the football podcasts from believe just search believe that's b l-e-a-v podcast follow and listen on your favorite platform

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