Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - HUNTER DOOHAN: Wednesday Break Out, Facing Loss Early, Finding Confidence in Hollywood

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

Hunter Doohan (Wednesday, Your Honor) joins us this week for a grounded and revealing conversation about the long road before his breakout, the pressure of joining a Tim Burton series, and the unexpected reality of becoming part of a global phenomenon. Hunter opens up about growing up closeted in Arkansas, losing his father to ALS, and the way grief shaped his early adulthood. He also shares stories from the set of Wednesday, learning from Bryan Cranston, surviving horror shoots like Evil Dead, and discovering confidence after years of doubt. A thoughtful look at talent, timing, and resilience. Thank you to our sponsors: 🥬 AG1: https://drinkag1.com/inside/ ❤️ This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/inside and get on your way to being your best self __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou⁠ 👕 Inside Of You Merch: ⁠https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/⁠ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 ⁠https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show⁠ __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: ⁠https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/⁠ 🤣 TikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast⁠ 📘 Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/⁠ 🐦 Twitter: ⁠https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod⁠ 🌐 Website: ⁠https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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That's great. It was really great. Check this out. I'm going to share it with you. It's a really sweet show. I love the show. I love them. James and Shelley.

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but a funny story about myself. Wow, there's so much to tell. Well, I guess my life is like a funny story almost, but I know a funny story. Well, I, hard to say. I don't know if I have, don't know how much time we have, but again, we want to wish you a happy new year. Again, Michael loves you very much, Jack on it.

Oh, also, I just have to get this in up as a brief aside. I think you, Michael, Mike, you are great. I loved you. And you were great as the flash. That was one of my favorite shows when I was younger, so just had to say so about that. But anyway. So sweet. That's sweet.

Thank you, James and Shelley. It was a great Christmas gift. They're so sweet. So, yeah, even I get cameos. Everybody. It's for everybody. I got a cameo from my dad, too. I remember it was like some guy from some old band.

He was like, I don't even like that person. I'm great. Whatever. Whatever, dad. Um, yeah, you see any good movies? One battle after another's great. Incredible movie. Nuremberg's good, but not great.

One battle is going to win a ton of awards. It was the best thing I've seen so far. Well, I couldn't get through a couple other things. I'm not going to say, because we've had some guests that were in them. The one, I don't know if it's going to get nominated,

maybe for like script, but like a movie I can't stop thinking about. It's called twinless. Twinless. Twinless. It's about a guy like who is, the two guys meet in a grief counseling group for twins who have lost, whose twins have died.

And it starts from there and the whole thing unravels. Is it dark? It's like a dark comedy, I would say. Who's in it? Oh, what's his name? Jason Seagull. Dylan O'Brien? I don't know that person.

He's in a new stuff. I don't know that person. It's good, though. All right. Thought provoking. Ria Seahorn, one. I haven't seen. I believe a golden guy.

Globe for pluribus everyone's been talking about it I didn't see and uh Kamail Nangiana a good friend of mine who is going to get in the podcast again um he was nominated for a golden globe for I got got to watch a stand-up special that just came out yeah um who else won was Sebastian Manaskelko nominated he's been here was it golden globes uh those are coming up what was it winners of the golden clubs will have aired by the time this coming What awards were like last night or the night before? A Critics choice. Sinners won big with the horror and action dome.

Sinners was good. Sinners was probably my favorite movie of the year. Sinners in one battle, I think. Jacob Allorty was named Best Supporting Actor for Frankenstein. Did not, I saw some of it. It was fine. It was long. Timothy Shalomey.

I haven't seen that one yet. Salomey! Best actor award for his portrayal of Marty and Marty Supreme have not seen it, but I do want to see that. Yeah. Adolescence picked up four trophies. The Pitt starring Noah Wiley. On the best drama series.

It was so good. So good. Studio, best comedy. That was also very good. Late night host Jimmy Kimmel won for best talk show host. That tracks. President Trump in his speech. That tracks.

Best actress. Critics Choice Award. Pluribus. Best actress win marks a major award season moment. For her. that. I still haven't finished Better Call Saul. Anyway, look at that. We're talking about

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It's my point of you. You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. So I've heard a lot about you. I called Al, Al, you know, Al Goff. Yeah, yeah, of course. You know, so the creators of Wednesday, they created Smallville. Yeah.

Created a lot of stuff. But he's like, he's simply the best. We love him. I love them. It's good to know when like a creator, you know, loves you. Yeah. Well, I mean, they're just like masters what they do, but they told me they kind of called around even before casting people to make sure. You know, they like, because they just make sure you're.

Just like everyone just like that they didn't, you know, know of before the show started, just kind of, you know, doing the reputation calls around town. make sure people are like you know because that first season of wednesday we were in romania for seven months so you don't want to be hanging out with people you don't like for that long that had to be i mean was that your biggest gig really because i know you did your honor yeah and some a lot of other stuff but like was this kind of like the thing that kind of your career took off a little bit yeah for sure i mean your honors first time i was a like series regular on a show and then um yeah then wednesday came around and then you know none of us expected just Hal was going to take off, but certainly has become the biggest thing by far.

Yeah. Are you tight with the cast? Yeah. We're really close. I like them a lot. Like the point where you'll just text them and say, what are you doing the night? Let's go get some food. Yeah, not a ton of them actually live here in L.A.

But me and Ricky Linn home are really close. Who is the therapist in season one? Yeah. Yeah. I love her. So you guys hang out? Yeah, yeah. I go dinner a lot.

She's, I just did a little project with her. She's going to release. It'll be fun. Yes. You did a movie? No, just like a little, a music video of hers. She does all these hilarious songs. She has an album out right now.

Are you a singer? I want to be a better singer. I started in musical theater when I grew up in Arkansas. So you can sing. You're naturally, you were born with like an ability to sing. But yeah, I'm not singing on her song. I just did the music video with her. Would you like to sing?

Yeah. I've joked with Alan Miles slash not joked that we should do a musical episode. And Jenna and Emma are like, shut the fuck up. She doesn't want any part of that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, come on.

I couldn't imagine if they did a smallville sing along or something. Did you all ever do a musical episode? No, no. That's kind of crazy because that went for so long. I can sing a little bit, but I'm not great. But like, they can fix it. Yeah. I need, I need some help sometimes.

But I love it. I love music. I love singing. I love me too. But I thought, I remember I auditioned for me. Moulon Rouge. Oh, you did. Yeah, and I was just so nervous and I had to sing a song and, you know, I didn't know really the style that they were looking for. So I went in there and the cast and her goes, okay, great, thank you. And that was one of those. Great, thank you.

I never heard back. Yeah. Have you auditioned or you had to sing in an audition? Yeah, I mean, I auditioned for a lot of musical theater schools. I supposed to go to Oklahoma City University after high school and then ended up coming out to L.A. for like two weeks. ever left and put off college. Yeah. But that's the track I was kind of going down. And then I got this random opportunity to come out here to L.A. I mean, was it something you always wanted to do when you were younger?

How old were you when you started acting? No, I got into it in like 10th grade in high school. Because I grew in Arkansas. So I just... Right. The razorbacks. The razorbacks. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, it just didn't seem like an option, really. Where'd you grow? I grew up in a southern, very southern town. Newburgh, Indiana, borderline Kentucky. Yeah. You know, it was one of those things where my mom had done repertory theater and she was kind of all over the place.

So I took like an acting in high school and, but you didn't have to do anything really. It was kind of an easy A. He just went up and acted like an idiot. And I was like, oh, I love this stuff. Yeah, well, especially when you're one of the five boys in a Southern high school, you can just like get into the roles. They're a little more than that, but it was like,

there weren't a ton of people going to theater. but, you know, I remember it was my senior year, and I wanted to take acting. It was advanced theater or whatever. But all it meant was it was just, you had to audition for a play. And I almost didn't take the class because I was so nervous. And I did, and I got the part, and it wasn't the lead.

But it changed my life. Yeah. It changed my life because it was the first time that, you know, I'd walk down the hallway and somebody go, hey, you were popular. You're funny. Yeah. What? Hey, bro, that was pretty cool what you did up there.

Yeah, and I was, were you popular in high school? No, I mean, I just like kind of hit out in the theater department. As soon as I auditioned for that, like, for a show, I just never left that theater department. We'd go eat lunch there and spend all our afternoons at rehearsals and it was your group. Yeah, yeah. I just didn't know what I wanted to do at all until I found that. And then I just got totally sucked into it. Yeah, it's, you found your people.

Yeah. I mean, was there anything else you wanted to do, you thought, like, growing up, or you're like, oh, you know, maybe I'll be this or I'll be that. I had no idea. Like, my dad taught tennis and my brother does that now. Do you play tennis? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do too.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, let's go. I mean, now I go like once a year, so I'll be, like, terrible for the first 30 minutes, but I'll pick it back up. But you're pretty good once you get going. Yeah, I can play. But my brother was great. And so he, like, kind of had that track.

And then I was like good in school but didn't know what I wanted to do. And then so I kind of was shocked my family. And I was like, I'm not going to go to college. Really? Yeah. Why didn't you go to college? I came out here. I had an internship with the casting director, Elizabeth Barnes.

She's from my hometown. How does that happen? My friend, Grace, from maybe best friend from high school, just had this opportunity. And so I followed her out here. And then she met a man. manager who I'm still with today at one of those workshops. And she was like, so you want to do acting? You're going to go to college in Oklahoma, be four years older, $100,000 in debt.

Why don't you just give it a try? And so I was like, okay, I guess I'll take a gap year. And if I don't book anything, I'll go to college after her course and then didn't book anything at all, but just was so invested. Yeah, at that way. I just, you know, I did like a two-year acting program out here and just started going for it. Or were your parents supportive? Yeah. From the get-go?

Yeah, I mean, shocked, but my mom was super, super supportive. Were you that good that she saw you in plays in high school and thought, okay, he's good? Well, that's the thing. It was such, like, delusion. She thought I was great, but then, like, you look back at stuff. You know, it was like a play in high school in Arkansas. Oh, no, I was great. No, but could you see if you look back?

I'm sure there's a video of you. If you really look, you could see some videos of me in Greece. but like I look back and I go you know you didn't know exactly what you're doing but there was some sort of energy to me some sort of charisma that I had that I thought okay maybe maybe you could do it uh did you when you look back do you think yeah there's something in that kid there's like a I don't maybe some sort of understanding but then I don't know I mean I remember the first time I did like something on camera I was like oh no like I really got to work on this and was it hard Yeah, I mean, acting is, yeah, it is really hard.

I mean, you know, in front of the camera, like, was the director like, okay, it's too theatrical. It's too big. It's too. Well, the first time I ever did like an audition on camera was for Elizabeth Barnes, who I did that. Right. And she was like, okay, we're in the same room. Yeah, that's the thing, right? Yeah.

Yeah, but they always like, you know, a lot of actors that I've worked with, especially bigger actors, you know. It's almost like they want to test you, though. Like, have you done theater? Have you done? I'm like, yeah. Oh, yeah, no, that's where I started. They kind of, it's like a relief for them. Yeah, yeah.

I wonder what that is, I guess, because you took it seriously. You trained. Did you train? Did you, uh, even when you came out here, did you take classes? Yeah. So I did like a two year Meisner program and then I still like train with my acting coach, Lisa Malo. I love her and I like work with everything I do on with her.

Every time you get a role or audition, you go to her? Not every time. get an audition but you know if i get into callbacks on something or yeah before i shoot something i'll do all the scenes i want to work on with her do you think that really helps yeah i think so i'm i'm kind of an over preparer though in that way do you go in for whatever it is and if you have do you learn the whole script like every line you have for the episode in case they jump out of order or whatever oh yeah like was i mean i think with like wednesday season one made like five episodes and before we even got there and i was you know i already i was ready to go on any of them you had all

five yeah yeah yeah you know i do that too i did a show called impastered and it only lasted a couple seasons but i was the lead i memorized like five or six episodes all of them just because of my nerves knowing that I knew the material know that I could just you know they're not going to throw a curveball at me or whatever I learned them all and I think it helps there's I I hate those actors that could wake up excuse me wake up in the morning going the makeup trailer and you're seeing them learning our lines and they can learn them like that they have this photographic memory yeah do you have a photographic memory no I can memorize fast but it's more about just like I'm just feeling prepared or good about it I have to feel

I know it so well that then I can play and bounce off the other person. Yeah. Or you've done so much TV, you know, like sometimes you don't know what you're going to get direction-wise. Yeah. So that's nice to, I have to know I've got my base layer of how if I get absolutely nothing, I can at least, you know, give it my best shot. Yeah. Do you, you know, for Wednesday, how many auditions did you have? just too i did a self-tape didn't hear anything for a month and then one monday they were like hey you're

gonna do a chemistry read with jenna over zoom tim burton's gonna be there alan miles are on there so i'm like in my apartment in burbank waiting on zoom zoom chemistry read i mean that's that's everything now oh it's crazy so do you do you feel like you need to be bigger because it's zoom or is it is there did they direct you did tim direct you um yeah we did I think it was super fast. Like, I think we did the first scene, maybe twice, and then the second one, maybe once. Did you memorize it? Yes.

Yeah, yeah. And then he was like, okay, thanks. I was like, oh, my God. That was it. Yeah, I was like, didn't get that. He gave you no feeling that maybe you got this. It was just like, that was so good. Thank you.

No. Do you want to come to Europe and nothing? Not at all. So you didn't think you got it. No, no, no. Yeah, no, I was totally surprised when I got that call. When did you get the call that you got it? A week later.

It was a long week. Was it just your agent? Yeah, yeah. Did Alan Miles even call you? I connected with them afterwards. They reached out and then, you know, they got to, we got in like a Zoom together and they told me like the whole outline of the season. And yeah. I mean, what did it feel like when you first met Tim Burton?

I was so scared. Like, I mean, he's a legend. He's such a... Is he intimidating? I mean, he was to me just because of who he is, but he couldn't have been nicer. Just very soft-spoken, I guess. Yeah, yeah. Just like...

He's kind of always moving around and... Yeah, yeah, he's going to be fun. Yeah, you did a really good job. We're going to have fun. It'll be great. Yeah, yeah. And you're just like, okay. Yeah, and then he doesn't over direct at all.

So, I mean, my first couple, like, scenes of them, I remember just being like, oh, no. Was he like into this at all? He didn't give you a lot of direction? No, no, he's like, and then we went to dinner with him one night and he just, you know, says he is really particular in like the casting process. And then once like I kind of, you know, just feeling like I had his trust, that just gave me so much confidence for the rest of the series. I mean, I'm just trying to imagine you day one filming this big set, Tim Burton, huge show, a lot of potential. People are excited about it. And action, Hunter.

Your first take, do you remember feeling like the first take was just mostly nerves and getting it out? Yeah, I think I remember I got lucky because my first scene, we did, Jenna and I had a, like, a FaceTime call on the pilot, but they did her coverage. And so I was off camera. And so that was a really nice way to ease into it. Right. Just like, you know, get to know everybody. So you didn't really have to film that. day no no you just came on and talked to her yeah that was nice were you intimidated by her at all

no not by her but just like i mean i guess because of how good she is you want to step up yeah like the second i saw her in that it's just like she's like so spot on so perfect for it yeah that i was like okay like this is this is gonna be good i gotta make sure i'm bringing it too you know because i think as an actor as a human being at least what's what i grew up i always want people to like me yeah yeah did you have that feeling like i just i want them to like me i want them to i want them to i think i've had that since i was a kid where i just want to be accepted yeah i think so too but jenna and i had met for coffee here in l.a before we even went over oh that's nice yeah because we're like i was like playing like the love interest that first season so i just want to make sure we like

at least weren't like getting on set like hey nice to meet you yeah exactly yeah we all like got to hang out so much offset though because again we're Romania that first season so it was like COVID we only had each other to go hang out in our hotel rooms and stuff I want to go to Romania my mom's side is Romanian and I've always wanted to go there are there really

like castles there like old like looks like Dracula lives there yeah yeah because we went up there to like the Vlad the Impaler the Dracula's castle that whole area is really cool I have crossed the oceans of time to find you Nina I love you too much

You should go do a stint there Yeah right Dude I'd love to I'd love to wear cape and Vampire teeth and have someone Filming in a castle I bet you could are the castle Is just like museums you can walk around in them

Yeah pretty much I was how the Vlad one was And there was like an extra part of it That was like the torture devices that he used. Really? That's where the whole like Dracula thing stuff is.

He was such a torture fanatic. How bored were you though after about two months of living in Romania? Well, it got pretty rough because again, it was like COVID. So the whole like city had like a 9 p.m. curfew at one point for like four months. And so like even like grocery stores are closed.

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You know, going back to childhood, were you bullied at all? You had teased and stuff, but nothing like super traumatic. I felt like I was definitely bullied. Really? You know, growing up. And yeah, because I was the smallest kid, you know, especially in my high school. And I didn't, I didn't grow until after high school. and you know it couldn't get girls i couldn't you know i was in my room on weekends watching horror

movies right out of a movie i mean it's just like that yeah that kind of character when did you come out because you've talked about this yeah i came out pretty much right after high school to a few people like during my like senior year right but yeah i was like getting some bullying just even before i even came out of the closet just, you know, being the theater guy in Arkansas. What would they say? What were they say gay? Hey, he's gay. Yeah, yeah.

And I'm like, what? No. No. You know, that's so funny. I mean, I remember people saying to me like, yeah, you jerk off. And I'm like, I do. Does that mean I'm gay? And then I realize everybody freaking does it, you know.

Was it, was it something, you know, obviously you're born with it? You know, it's like, I think that's the misconception is. people like you don't just become gay one day yeah it's like you know it'd be fun you'll be fun i'm gonna be gay today i'm gonna be gay yeah but how old were you when you're like i think you know something's you know like junior high probably junior high yeah did your parents have any idea i remember i came out to my mom and she was like well i asked you and you said no and i was like mom you had to you had the thought to ask so and well you know it's funny is i was really heavily involved in theater in college and I came back home and my mother

was like, you know, she's pretty liberal. She's like, I just want you to know, it's okay. And I have lots of gay friends. And if you are gay, you can tell me. She's like, I love musicals. It's fine. Yeah, yeah. And I go, I listen to Barbara Streisand. So do I. And I go, yeah, I'm gay. And I didn't tell her.

I didn't, I just said I was. And I let it go to see how, you know. To see how she would react? And then I told her later. So you had to reverse. verse you to go back in. Mom, I'm not gay. I was totally kidding with you because I heard her friends like saying talking about it.

Like she had told her friends and her friends all thought I was gay. And I just remember going, all right, maybe I should, you know, kind of. Yeah, into this rumor you started about yourself. I didn't care of it. It was just like, it was funny. She's like, you asshole. I thought you were. Why would you tell me that?

I go, I don't know. But you, how old were you, junior high when you told your mom? No, I was like a senior in high school. But did she know earlier? Did she have any idea? I mean, she had the inkling to ask when I was younger. How old were you when she asked? I don't know, probably like, ninth or tenth grade or something.

You know, like, no. Yeah, I just saw her Thanksgiving and she was like, well, you're always hanging out with your best friend Garrett, so I just thought I'd ask. I'm always hanging out with my best friend Danny or my best friend David or my best friend Nate. Yeah. You know, that's what you do. You hang out with the guys. Yeah. Was it hard, though?

Was it hard coming out? Yeah. It's got to be, especially in Arkansas. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and it's just like super, you know, religious, like kind of small town. But I was lucky. My mom was super supportive once I did come out. And Grace, who I mentioned earlier, who, like, we got the same manager, moved out to L.A.

She was my last girlfriend. And then we became best friends and still really close friends. I'm going to her wedding. How old were you when you dated Grace? Like 7, 617. Did she have any idea? Well, that's how I broke up with her. That's how I told her because I didn't want to just break up with her.

Did she cry? Of course. She's like, is it me? No, no, no, yeah. You know, I think it's them. Yeah, that's got to be tough. It's got to be tough that you just can't. This is who I am.

This is how I feel. I think it's better than it was when I was growing up in Newburgh, Indiana, in 1980, whatever it was. You know, because people threw around the gay word and queer word like it was like everybody said it. Oh, yeah. You know, so you're almost terrified to admit that if you were, you know. Yeah, because you hear so many people in your life like make jokes about it thinking they're, you know, just around another. That's so gay.

Just another guy. And then you're sitting there like, oh, God, I hope they don't know about me. Right. And now it's like you come to a place, come out to L.A., and it just probably felt easier, right? Yeah, exactly. There's like, it just all of a sudden didn't seem to matter. Yeah. Which is really nice.

This is really nice. Yeah. Because I never would have thought you were gay at all, especially watching these scenes in the chemistry with you and Jenna. She's easy to have chemistry with. But is there any thoughts in your head? I mean, like, oh, I, you know, I just got to play it differently or I have to. I mean, not really. I mean, that's kind of this funny thing of like, I think.

gay actors there's just more straight roles you one you grow up pretending in your own life and then you're kind of expected to do it whereas you know then a straight guy plays a gay guy and you give him an Oscar like

how the hell did he get in mind of that kind of guy yeah yeah and then they're like gay gay actors are like well you also have to play straight yeah yeah I mean but you dated women. Yeah, yeah. So, uh, you know, it wasn't like that foreign. I guess if you had never kissed a girl and then going in there and playing this role, it would be more difficult, but that'd be more difficult for anybody. Yeah. I mean, I never even thought about it like that.

I think it's just so based in how that, what character is feeling and what they want in that moment, you know? Yeah. Um, do you think Wednesday changed your life? Absolutely. I'm just so eternally grateful to that show and to Alan Miles. Oh my God. How has it changed your life? Just like with acting and opening so many doors and, you know, there's so many like auditions I wouldn't have even had or, you know, I just did this movie, The Wilderness. It's out now. Is that the one with Aaron Paul? Is Aaron Paul produced it? Produced it. Did you produce it too? Yeah, I produced it.

Yeah. So this is like such a name, dropy story. Name it, drop it. Brian Cranston, oh, texted me if he could share my number with Aaron Paul. And I was like, obviously do it right now.

And so then Aaron called me and said he had this script that he was producing and wanted to send it over. And I read it. And then I met with the director and writer, Spencer King. And we just hit it off. And he ended up asking me to come on as a producer. And he was such a great experience. And you're in it.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's based on like Spencer's true story, he was a teenager and he got sent to a wilderness therapy program. It was like a part of the troubled teen industry. Yeah, I've seen a documentary on that, right? Yeah.

It's dark. Super dark. I mean, he was ripped out of his bed in the middle of the night, blindfolded, putting the back of a car, driven out to the Utah desert. And then all of a sudden, you're in this wilderness program and you're there until they say you're better. Oh, man. It's just this crazy world. And I just had, I had one friend who went to a troubled teen industry program.

here in LA it wasn't it was like a boarding school type of reform school it wasn't a wilderness program and so I was reading this script like is this really happened and I couldn't believe it when I like researched it more and then just talk to Spencer and got to know his story

wow when does that come out so it's playing in a few theaters and now we have a screening tonight and Wednesday in LA and then it'll come out digitally in December 16th are you super proud of it I'm super proud of it is it really dark and Intense? Yeah, it's intense, but it's also like, it's got all these great moments of between all the boys at the camp and then finding their, like, you know, friendship.

And I got to work with Lamar Johnson and I did Your Honor with again. And my best friend, Aaron Hollidays in it. And it was really, we had a really good time filming. Speaking of Brian Cranston, you know, in your honor, I always remember that scene where you're telling him what you had done. You know, how you hit the boy. And it was so intense watching you guys. Was that one of the first scenes you shot? I think we had been going for a little bit because that first block.

I think we did the first three episodes all kind of cross-boarded. But yeah, I mean, I was one of my audition scenes. So that felt like we'd been gearing up to that for a long time. Were you nervous at all? So nervous. Really? I mean, Brian. Vincent, like Breaking Bad is favorite show of all time.

was the only show I've seen two times through. Yeah. Did he say anything to you while you're acting, or he just did his thing and let you do yours? No, he was super helpful, and I would just straight up ask him for any advice. What did he give you advice? Like, you know, maybe try this.

Yeah, of course, yeah. And, you know, he directed the finale of that first season, and that was really cool to see, like, him the way he could switch so easily between stuff. And I really learned just so much about, the way I want to work from him because he like is one of those guys is just like joke joke joke laugh laugh up until it's time to go but he's so prepared that he can get switched on a dime and you know that show is so dramatic and dark and so I had to like learn to keep up with that and I've kind of

carried that with me and it's just such a better way to go out throughout the day yeah like you're not in the makeup chair like ignoring everybody listening to sad music because you have to cry later yeah you know something I learned that um I did that all through smallville people who just didn't understand i was just joking and farting and laughing and doing stand-up comedy for the whole crew and then it was just like rolling camera and i go okay boom and i go and then i'm like oh my gosh man can i go to the bathroom you know like that to me was the only way i could do it if if you're just so you know you stay in character that whole time it's just so stressful and exhausting to do so you learn to play

a little bit and not think about things to the camera rose you know your you know your lines you know what you're doing i mean of course there are those moments where you need to take a minute to like a yeah like you take that you know second to gear up emotionally whatever to do but yeah like not making it everybody else's problem for the whole day yeah i mean how long did it take to film a scene like that um a few hours i remember we were filming that scene you were talking about where i tell them I hit the kid on the motorcycle and they were like, had just done his coverage and maybe one take of mine and they're like, okay, time for lunch. And I was like, oh, God.

And we're like so in it. And we're both like crying. And Brian was like, no, you're not going to lunch right now. We're going to, you know, we're going to push it for can't break this big pivotal scene up like this. And so he like really set up for me in that moment, which is really nice. Like he's the best guy. He said, no, we're going to finish this. He's in the moment.

Let's not lose this. Yeah, because it would have taken to get back into it. It would take you time to get back into it. Yeah, because I think we were further into it, actually. I think it would have had to come back and do like one or two more shots of that, which was such a long and dramatic scene. Did he look at you at all and just say, that was great? Great job.

He was super nice and complimentary all the time. He was great, yeah. What if you were like that, Brian, you were really good in that? Yeah. You really were good. Good for you. Yeah, wow. You're pretty good at this. From the creative team behind the Brutelist

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I mean, Brian, for sure. But you lost that feeling pretty quickly. He sort of was very disarmingly. He's super disarming and super lovely, but I don't know, he gave me such a drive to make sure it was always, showing up the best i possibly could every day because see that's to me when you have a partner who cares about you and is listening and wants your performance because if your performance is great and the other person's isn't it still doesn't work no yeah yeah you're not a scene's bad and you both

look bad yeah you have to you have to care about the other person you have to care about the project you have to care about every moment yeah you know a lot of times we could be selfish but um you probably learned a lot from him just like always being there no matter what you've already done close up now with someone else's and i i tend to give more when i'm off camera yeah do you feel like that's like you're ever like man i should have done that same yeah no you find more stuff and then yeah i remember like because i got cast in your honor and then we did some chemistry leads for the other characters and you know brian was like you know this isn't about you you're reading off camera for them like you need to give everything for them and not that i wouldn't have but just to like

have someone really like that instill that in me was just I mean it's just yeah with me through everything it's the it's great advice it really is that and listen just listen we forget that we're so caught up in what we're doing and sometimes if you just listen to what they're saying your response will come out naturally yeah and it's hard sometimes you're like oh I wasn't listening yeah you ever do that totally I mean you just find new stuff. I mean, that happens all the time on Wednesday because I like, especially season one, I think I had this idea of what I thought every scene would go like because it's Wednesday

Adams and everyone knows this character so well. But then Jenna is so amazing and she would like find all these ways to surprise you. Yeah. Even when you think there's only one way to do it as deadpan and she's just so full. Does she ever break and laugh? Yeah, we had one scene. What was it this past season? We could not stop laughing.

I think it was a scene that got cut. We were like, but yeah, we have a good time. You guys have a lot of, the hour miles after you say, okay, let's go. We got, let's do this. Is the set pretty, pretty calm? Or is it usually pretty tense? No, it's calm, but there's just so much going on on the show. There's a lot to get done, but.

Visually, you got the actors, but you got visuals, you got all these. So much special effects. There's a tone to it all. Yeah. It's always trying to find that tone too on the show, especially like season one. You know, because some stuff was kind of dark. And then you have the Adam's family humor. But, you know, Al and Miles would be like, well, this seems traumatic.

This one's. Yeah. Do you ever improvise? Not really. The Alamiles are super collaborative. Like, I'm sure, you know, from the small, like, they would even come up and ask about how I felt about stuff or we'll talk about the episodes coming up if there's any like small little things or put things in your own words do you ever call them yeah yeah I mean we

would like have calls or at least email but for every block of shooting and kind of go over the episodes but it was never like obviously big changes again they're like masters of tv so it was just like oh what if this was a little bit like this or um but there's not like a lot of improv on that show especially because it's like a mystery and there's so many elements going on to it it's not like you can't start like a whole new story that's how i felt when i worked with them it's just like you can't really i mean i improvised a little i'd say a few things every once in a while and they'd keep it but like yeah you can just can't go off book with lex luther going you know it just doesn't you know i don't know um you know i like to talk about mental health on the podcast of course

uh because it it helps a lot of people and i'm just wondering have you ever dealt with anxiety or depression What have you done about it? Not like diagnosed, like anything but just say the anxiety of performing or auditioning as like such a huge part of this business, I think. Especially like when you used to like actually go into the audition rooms. Oh, man. I think that's like lessened a little bit with Zoom.

Self tapes and stuff. Zooms are pretty anxiety inducing. Have you ever? bombed something, an audition that you really wanted? No, actually I have it. I usually get what I want. No. Oh, God.

Again, I moved out. It's so long ago. It took me for her to book anything. I know. I'm trying to think of, I had a lot of, like, back when they used to do a lot of the commercial auditions, those were just humiliating. It would make you do the craziest stuff.

I did this, like, Taco Bell commercial. and the whole story was like, I was like hooking up with a girl and her dad barges in. And I'm like running away. And there's like a crunch rep supreme that's all folded up. You could eat it on the go. So it's the callback. And like the people from Taco Bell are there. And I'm like putting out jacket like running in place and then eating this like burrito.

And it went on for so long. So then they're like, okay, we're going to go again. I'm like like chewing the same. Like, oh, you can just like spit that over there. I was like, oh, okay. I go over and I missed the trash can. And spit on the floor. I spit this chewed up burrito.

They laugh? No. Dead silence. And I had to pick up this like chewed burrito. Oh my God. And they're like, okay, let's go again. And then I did it again. Thanks.

You didn't get it? No, I didn't get it. Just because you spit on the floor. They should have given the T4 spitting on the floor. Oh my gosh. That is, that is just. Does that count as bombing an audition? I mean, I guess so.

I guess so. What would you do if you weren't an actor? Do you have any idea? I don't know. I was a thing. I was talking about in high school, I just like, I just like could not think of what I wanted to do. And then once I found theater and acting, I just, you know, just took over my whole life. Yeah.

Yeah. It's like nothing else you want to do. Mm-hmm. You know, I know you lost your father to ALS, right? Yeah. How many years ago was that? It was eight. I just had the eighth year anniversary.

Was that just the hardest thing ever you had to go through? Yeah, it was just so unexpected because, you know, he, again, like taught tennis. He was a professional tennis player. And then to watch him go through that, like, and just like lose control his body, just like the worst. It happens so fast, doesn't it? It can really vary. But with him, it was. fast which I don't know it was was hard but I think it away made a blessing and there's for him

you know everyone you know obviously you can make their own choices about it but he didn't take any measures to prolong his life with like help with eating or breathing because you know the way is you lose all control of muscles and eventually yeah breathing and swallowing and all that and so yeah I watched a friend go through it and it was just I'm sorry just heart wrenching yeah I'm sorry you know i mean is there anything anyone can do are there any do you support like als uh charities or anything like that yeah um project als a ls network or two great ones here in l a lay um they'll you know nationally as well and then uh team cleason i discovered them um in new orleans because um they do a lot of great work with like just kind of help you know

people like live with the L.S. Some of them are you know will help like focus on finding a cure and research and then like I like what Tim Gleason does which is really special is like you know giving experiences and to people and their families like living with it. Yeah. Was that the probably the hardest time in your life having to deal with that? Had you dealt with loss before that? Not like that. Yeah it was just so yeah it happened so quick because he had moved back to Australia that's where he's from right and like one day like me and my brother you know we FaceTime him for his birthday and he's using a walker and he was kind of like keeping it from us he didn't really know what's going on and then he a few weeks later found out

that it was a LS and that was in May and he passed away in July it just happened so fast it was like you didn't even get a chance to I mean did you go visit him yeah I mean my brother went down for a few weeks and just those like few weeks you're there with them the way just declining was just so heartbreaking yeah i just can't imagine it's just like and it's something you just have no control over you know yeah so now i'm sorry you have to deal with that it's just like you know having to deal with that experience at such a young age and yeah it's just it's just brutal um we got to talk to you about this really quick it's like you know the evil dead burn i mean yeah i saw the poster i mean come on evil dead right here

it's like come on uh how is that it was so fun we i just got back like a month and a half ago from we were shooting down new zealand for it is it intense yeah super intense i liked evil dead rise yeah me too it was so intense yeah the first one i saw was the like the 2013 one yeah yeah you know because the 80s ones are the same rami ones are amazing And so much like camp to them. And then now they're like. Now it's so serious. Now they're more serious and then just are truly terrifying.

What can we expect from this one? This one is once it like it gets going, it is like nonstop. And it also does a really good job of just tying kind of all the stories together, I think. I think fans are really going to like it. And our director, Sebastian Vanchek, is this French filmmaker. He was so good. His first film, infested, is super scary. And he's, like, the perfect guy to take her with the reins.

How exhausting was this movie? It was so exhausting. Like, physically and, like, emotionally, just, like, you know, just so much happens. Every day. Every day you're going in, like, trying to act out. me what's the worst possible thing, scariest thing, dramatic thing that could happen to you and then take it to the next level and the next scene. And how long did you film it?

Three months. And when does that come out? Next summer sometime, I think. Have you seen any of it? No. I mean, I saw just like some stills. And then I think we got to post like one little clip on Instagram where we wrapped of me. I don't know anything I can say what I was doing.

And I'm like destroying something. Looks awesome. Yeah, it was fun. Man, so you got Evil Dead Burn. You got the wilderness, the memorable Bastion Cooper, and Daredevil Born Again. Yeah, I got to play Muse. That was pretty fun. Was that fun?

Yeah, yeah. It was really freeing to play like a character with a mask. I felt like I could like do anything. Yeah. And I mean, you got Wednesday, season three? Yeah, we're about to go start shooting season three. And how long will you be shooting? We usually shoot for like seven, eight months.

And we're going back to Dublin. That's where we shot season two. So you're going to Dublin? Yeah. You like Dublin? Love it. Have you gone to Galway? Yep.

Beautiful, right? Yeah. The church and the water. That's gorgeous. I loved it. I mean, you got so much going on. I mean, what else? Other things you can't even talk about?

Or are there, I mean, you have so many things coming out and everything's going all right. you right now. Yeah, I feel really lucky. I mean, it's such a crazy time in this industry. So to, especially with Wednesday, just it's still going. It's so nice. Any actor knows to have a job that's still going. I had such a good time producing on wilderness and I write a lot. So I want to, you know, write and direct something, hopefully someday soon. Would you do another horror movie? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah? Yeah.

All right. I'm going to have to send you a script. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I'm looking at him going. He's perfect for this movie. This movie I wrote called Fletcher Lake. Oh, yeah.

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Dohan. Yeah. My dad was Australian, so my mom was Southern. So it was Duhan. Duhan. Duhan. I'll answer to anything. Hunter Duhin.

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I mean, if you want to answer something, you can, but you can do. Bob Kay says, how often do people assume that your father was James Scotty Duhan? Oh, from Star Trek? Never. No, never. People, yeah, no. All right. Little.

That's not very interesting. Yeah. Bob, he said it's not interesting from New York. All right? You're not interested. You're not interested. No. My response.

Bob, your question sucked. Little Lisa, what scares you the most? Dying. Really? You're scared of it? Yeah. I'm scared of dying, like an agonizing slow death or something, but if it just happened in my sleep. The way that you just drifted off into darkness just now, as you talked about.

I know. Death. Death. Malina W. You played a great character on Wednesday. Did you know when you started season one if you were the monster and was there a freedom to play your character

fully exposed in season two? Yeah, so Alan Miles on Zoom told me the whole plot line for my character season one before we started shooting. I didn't realize it was supposed to be a secret and I did tell someone in the cast and then we got there and everyone was like, so who do you guys think is the high?

Do you think I'm the high? I was like when I had told my friend Joy in the cast I was like don't tell me when I told you and didn't yeah but then I think like halfway through the season it was like we all Jenna knew yeah yeah but then like now then everyone knew but oh yeah Raj I'm sure this will be a good one tell me about a goal you set for yourself and eventually achieved um I mean just to be working I've moved out here when I was 18 and I don't think I booked anything like substantial for like seven years. It was just like a, it was a real slog, you know.

So it just kind of happened. Yeah. And then it took off overnight. Well, no, I mean, seven years, you're like, okay. And then once it happened, everything took off. It was still a slow build. It was like, you know, doing the whole like co-star like three lines on a TV show thing, guest stars, slowly, slowly, slowly.

What's a show you were on that you had like two lines or something, a big show? Westworld was there. first one I did, I, like, rode up on a horse. And I lied about being able to ride a horse in the audition. They were like, can you ride a horse? I was like, I'm from Arkansas. And that horse is really well trained. Did you practice before?

No, I went to a fitting. And then they were like, okay, now we're just going to go over here. And I was like, oh, what are we doing? Like, oh, we're just going to test your horsewriting skills. And I was like, oh, shit. And you said, I really don't know. No, I just got on it. And the horse, they just actually was a really well trained horse.

And I just had to basically not fall off, which. So you never told them. No. Lies. Hunter, you liar. You could have jeopardized the whole production. No, no. I needed the job.

I needed the two lines in Westworld. Linda M., what shocks you about yourself? Your rugged, good looks. Yeah. How ripped you are on screen. Oh, my God. Yeah. Who knew?

I was looking at you. I was like, gosh, ripped. Like, you know, I mean, do you work out a lot? Well, when Alan Miles gave me, script season two and it's like Tyler chained up shirtless. I was like, oh, okay, let's get in the gym here. If you would have filmed right when they said that, would you have not been happy with the way you looked? Yeah, probably not. So how many months did you have to prepare? I don't remember. Just a couple, but. But you worked out. Oh, yeah. For that one scene and afterwards you went and had

a burger and fries. Yeah, we were in Dublin. So I was like, okay, let's get some Guinness. This has been a blast. You're great. You're great. You're a great guy. You're just very forthcoming, very open. I'm so happy for you. And season three of Wednesday, I mean, is there anything else I should be asking you? No, I don't think so. Oh, what's her name?

I should know her name. She's amazing. She was in Game of Thrones. Gwendolyn Christie? I never remember how to pronounce her name. Yeah. Love her. I love her.

She is so amazing. Is she great to work with? Yeah. I mean, I wish I had more scenes with her. I didn't get to really work with her at all. And season two, like, she's like one person for that show. I just, like, dying to do something else with because. You guys text?

No, it's not like that. I like, well, just fan boy over her over Instagram message and get a response. But she's, I mean, she's just awesome. And that first time we did that carnival scene in season one, it was like, I was like, okay, let's just get out of the way. I loved you in Game of Thrones. You're so great. She's got a little thank you very much.

No, she's super cool. And she's so talented. I'd love to have her on the podcast. I told Alan Miles like, fuck, come on, Al. I was in your show for seven years. You can fucking help me out. Make the connection. They haven't helped me with one guest.

Not one. Not one guest. I asked them about you. I already had gotten you. And I was like, how is he? He's like, it was awesome. So they haven't really gotten me anybody. But maybe after this, after I call him out, they'll get me somebody.

And I love it. And so you and Jenna, you have each other's text number. You'll just text each other. Yeah, all the kids and all the cast are super close and super friendly. I'm excited to get back and see everyone though because we're all kind of all over the place. Right out over the world. Yeah. Yeah, it'll be great.

Well, I wish you continued success. Thank you so much. I loved having here when you actually, you know, when you get bigger and start blowing up, you better come back. Oh, no, absolutely. that I promise? That I won't be back for sure, yeah. You bastard.

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