Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - IKE BARINHOLTZ: Passing the Crazy Test, Post-MadTV Dry Spell & Major Jeopardy Regrets

Episode Date: December 3, 2024

Ike Barinholtz (The Mindy Project, Blockers) joins us this week to share his experience going from an upbringing in a comedy heavy household to landing a big break on MadTV to the reality check he rec...eived after his time on the series was over. Ike discusses passing the ‘crazy test’ with his writing and his initial fears of joining the Mindy Project in the writers room alone. We also talk about his dad’s claim to fame in Jury Duty, his experience winning celebrity Jeopardy, and what NOT to do in improv. Thank you to our sponsors: ❤️ Betterhelp: https://betterhelp.com/inside 🚀 Rocket Money: https://rocketmoney.com/inside 🏈 PrizePicks: https://prizepicks.com/inside 🛍️ Shopify: https://shopify.com/inside 📕 MasterClass: https://masterclass.com/inside __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou 👕 Inside Of You Merch: https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🤣 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod 🌐 Website: https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:50 I have a bandage on my neck. Bandage on my neck. The bandage on my neck. I had a little neck surgery, artificial disc, so there you go. we won't say much more about that great show today hopefully hopefully you're enjoying the podcast and thank you for your support and choosing this podcast ryan thanks for being here thank you for having yeah it's nice to these folks to join us if you like the podcast if you're here for ike barrenholz and you're a big fan you don't know who the hell i am which is it was likely
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Starting point is 00:01:42 I couldn't freaking do it. So thank you for listening. And I just want you to know my book, The Talented Fartter is available on Amazon. And you can go to my Instagram at the Michael Rosenbaum to my link tree. And you could see cameo and you can see the inside of the online store with cool merch like Lexmas scripts and a bunch of other stuff. And puppy fresh breath, Rosie's puppy fresh breath, Ryan. You know that. You just put a cap full in your dog's water and it's odorless, tasteless, and your dog's breath is better.
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Starting point is 00:02:22 It's a sound book. It's a fart book. And they're really my farts. All of them are my farts. Aren't you really just happy right now? I am. I'm very happy. It's the holidays, Ryan.
Starting point is 00:02:33 It is the holidays. I mean, Thanksgiving is here. It's hard to believe. Well, Thanksgiving is coming going. Oh, yeah, that Thanksgiving. What can you do about it? Yeah, this will hear right after Thanksgiving. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:44 But, wow, it was a great time. It was a great time. It was a super time this Thanksgiving. I hope you guys are all, you know, being good to yourselves and taking time. I know it's stressful and stuff. I'm so stressed lately because I had the surgery and, you know, I'm doing my first interview later today. And, you know, and I just try to take a deep breath and go, hey, just do what you can do your best. And, you know, people understand, you know.
Starting point is 00:03:10 And that's what I'm saying to you. So if, you know, you're having a tough day, have a tough day. There's always tomorrow. Ryan, you have a tough day? No, but we talked about like the malaise of the end of the year. Yeah, the holidays. I kind of got the holidays post or just end of the year blues. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:27 But let's pick it up, man. Yeah. Because we got a great interview today. Ike Berenholtz. If you don't know him, hilarious. This guy is so funny and so talented, he is going to put a smile on your face, guaranteed. So let's just get into it. Let's get inside of the great Ike Berenholtz.
Starting point is 00:03:43 It's my point of view. You're listening to inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. Welcome to the Fordcast. This is where we talk about all things Ford. Francis Ford Coppola. Ford Cars. Harrison Ford.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Harrison Ford. That's about it. Fordham University. We do talk about Fordham University. Fording. What is fording? it's like farting but ford i feel like in sweden oh fjording fjording yeah yeah okay uh were you always funny yeah yeah yeah i think i guess your family was funny right my family was funny and like my
Starting point is 00:04:41 i feel like when you're young all your friends are so funny you know what i mean so we were just like grown up in the 80s man like we're like the same age yeah it's the best time to grow up yeah but you think you're funny when you're a kid and you got all these friends and you're making your jokes and you think you're funny but a lot of times in life that doesn't translate to what what with the masses find funny that's fair you know what i mean but like it was it always like you know i read somewhere that your household was always just there's laughter there's jokes is that how it was we were a comedy heavy house like who was the funniest that's tough low-key my mom because she's like you know my brother my dad and i are heavily jewish
Starting point is 00:05:21 And even though she converted it and she's Jewish too, she's just different than us. We just lost some of our audience. No kidding. I'm Jewish too. I'm Jewish too. Oh, you think so, Rosenbaum? Oh, you think so, Rosembaum? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:36 But so she does at a very, like, different point of view than all of us. But we were all funny. And we, they really nurtured us when it came to comedy. Like the movies we watched a lot were like trading places and history of the world. of the world. History of the world. Blazing Saddles. Move that mic to your right a little bit.
Starting point is 00:05:55 There and I can see your mouth. There we go. I just had some work done on it. What do you think? What did you do with your mouth? It looks good. I got plumped up. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:06:05 You have all people. Just before I got here. You would not plump up your lips. How do you feel about women or men who get their lips plumped? I mean, you know, it's fine. I wouldn't do it because it's such a, for me, my lips are, not big they're not small they're me it's not not looking i don't look at someone and i'm like middle lips i've left i also don't care about lips like uh i i the kind of surgery i encourage are
Starting point is 00:06:31 people men and women to get their breast done i don't i don't discriminate about as long as they're soft as long as i'm seeing some humongous cans that's all that matters to you ladies and fellas ladies and fellas he's not discriminating um uh yeah no no point your mom was funny my mom was very funny what was funny about her just like like her dry was she dry but since gentilely sincere um in a way that we were just sarcastic urban jews she was like a country girl country girl did they have country she's a country girl did they have southern accents no no no she was from like rural ohio and my dad grew up in chicago and we grew up in chicago and so but she was just she was funny and they just let us watch funnies we like s andl we watch
Starting point is 00:07:18 S&L every single I watched SCTV we watched there's some moments oh my god I just did a TV show with Catherine O'Hara speaking of SCTV
Starting point is 00:07:31 was she fun to work with no no no she's like incredible like it just so so so funny and so cool is that intimidating do you get intimidated I normally don't but with her
Starting point is 00:07:45 that first day or two I was a little nervous just because I just would hate to live in a world where Catherine O'Hara doesn't like me. Yeah, I know. Maybe we do. We want people to like us. We want people to like us. That's our whole deal.
Starting point is 00:07:58 But were your parents sort of like inspirational for your comedy? Were they unconditionally loving you as a child? Were they saying do what you want to do? Yes. Yeah. Yes, yes to all that. I mean, they were very tolerant of me. like neglecting my studies and doing bad in school and they let me like watch yeah like I said
Starting point is 00:08:25 whatever I wanted basically uh R rated film oh hell yeah hell yeah dog man I remember being like eight and being like damn Jamie Lee Curtis titties like I remember like I remember thinking that you remember thinking that in those words do you know I still I still do that like we have a horror movie group and uh we'll be watching I go oh my God look at those boobs they're beautiful they're palm like and my friends are all laughing I'm like just still excited
Starting point is 00:08:53 to see boobs some old horror movies like it was the first time it just gives me a chance to feel like a kid again my friend Stacy when we were in fourth grade she had a sleepover birthday party
Starting point is 00:09:04 yeah sleepover and the parents her parents said they were gonna they were gonna show us an R rated film and it was Revenge of the Nerds and there were a couple of kids who parents said no
Starting point is 00:09:14 probably like they're probably like scientists and doctors. But I remember going and you see Bush in the movie. He says it. He says, we have Bush.
Starting point is 00:09:25 We have Bush. And so I just like remember like that's a moment where my brain got like rewired or wired. Yeah, I guess so. I mean, did you struggle at all as a kid with like, were you popular, where you picked on? Were you, were you nervous? Were you anxious? I wasn't a super anxious kid. I like probably grew up privileged, not rich by any.
Starting point is 00:09:47 real means but just rich in love and i had such good friends you know um yeah i got bullied like every kid gets bullied in the in 1980s you know what i mean like we got bullied pretty hard it's i mean it's much worse now because it's like you know it's on social media and stuff but like i uh i definitely remember this guy one time like hawking a lugi in my face he spilled luging your face yeah this was this was two days ago uh at the grove i was with my family it was really messed up did in front of my kids. No, no, no, but I remember this kid when I was, like, in, like, fifth grade talking a loogie in my face, and I was really bummed.
Starting point is 00:10:26 But other than that, no, it was, it was a pretty, like, lovely way to grow up, especially going into high school where, like, most of my friends now are my friends from high school, and they're all, like, nice. Really? You're still friends with all your friends from high school? Yeah, yeah. Like, close. Like, my partner, my business partner, my writing partner is, like, my best friend of, like, 35
Starting point is 00:10:47 five years, if not more, which is wild. Wow. So you as a child or you growing up with your friends, you really did see like, hey, we think what we're doing is funny. We're just going to do this. Yeah. I mean, kind of, him and I literally, like, we wrote like, uh, his name's Dave Stassen, by the way. Yeah. Uh, we wrote like the comedy column for the high school newspaper and like, we were like the funny guys. And, and we like, we would talk like maybe one day we can write on a TV show like Seinfeld, you know? And, and then we just kind of, he went to college and then I, I kind of did college for a year and then it was not working out. So I kind of jumped into
Starting point is 00:11:29 acting and the improv scene. But then like four years later, we kind of came back together and moved to LA together. And how old were you when you did that? It was in, it was in 2001. So that would make it I was 24 so you went young shit so you went to college and you were like you were your grades good terrible awful did you go to class I didn't go to class I hated it I was like I wanted to go because I thought like I was like ever since I was a kid I was like well I'll be like a polysci major like politics is interesting it could be kind of fun and and so but I loved movies I love TV shows and then when I got to college I think I realized Like, I don't go, fuck, I'm not running for office. You know what I mean? I never smoked weed before. So I started smoking like a ton of weed, mushrooms and stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:23 And I was like, I don't want to do this. I'd rather act. And I didn't really, yeah, I didn't really know exactly how I wanted to approach it. But after I left school, I went to go see a, they told me to leave, by the way. It wasn't much like, did they really? Oh, fucking. Yeah. they were like we hate you because i didn't go to class ever like i went to like a few the first
Starting point is 00:12:47 semester but like second semester almost almost nothing i would i would literally like be like i'm gonna for sure go to class tomorrow like no matter what i like pack my bag like classes at nine i got to wake up i'm gonna shower grab coffee blah blah and then i would like wake up and like watch 2001 the space odyssey like twice in a row my friend roger in college like we had the same class we bit together and he goes hey man you going class tomorrow i'm like yeah he's like all right wait me up after you wake up so i go all right so i wake up and i go roger yeah hey i'm up he goes he's taking a shower i'm like yeah wait me up after the shower a shower roger mad at the shower all right call me from class call me wait me up from i mean this guy like that's the same thing he just
Starting point is 00:13:37 never went to class about an employment thing here man like i need a file of W-4 or whatever. I think I'm working for you now. But you're a smart guy. I mean, you won Jeopardy. We're going to get into that. Fuck, yeah. But you won Jeopardy.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Ask me any trivia question. Okay. Where did trick-or-treating originate? Oh, my God. Trick-or-treating. Fuck. I mean, I'm going to say the U.S. Because Halloween is not really a big...
Starting point is 00:14:04 If you had another gas, what would it be? Another country. Germany. Ireland. Ireland. Ireland. Ireland. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Oh, yeah. It comes from when the harvest would come in and the kids would come in, they would say trick or treat and we would give them a point of whiskey. That's how it started. That's how it started. That's amazing. What is the origin of it, though? Just so I know. I don't know. I just know it originated. Am I right? Is it Ireland? You have to look that out. We'll look it up. You said ask anything. All right, name all four presidents that were assassinated. Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley,
Starting point is 00:14:41 and Kennedy, and almost Trump. Yes. Jesus fucking Christ. But four, you're right. Nobody, see, you're good. You're good at trivia. But you only went to one year at college. I know.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Did you just become worldly by just living and watching and breathing? I mean, a little bit, I read a lot. I would read a, like, I, we had like, listen, before Wikipedia, there was something called the Encyclopedia. I remember that, the Britannica. Yeah, we think we had a world book.
Starting point is 00:15:06 But we, my parents got. the encyclopedia, World Book Encyclopedia, and I would read it constantly. So I would just be curious about certain things. Oh, I'm curious about the French Revolution.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Wow, that sounds crazy. So then maybe I would go to a library. I would read a book about it. So you didn't need school. You were doing it on your own. You were learning on your own. I was like friggin' will hunting. He did improv.
Starting point is 00:15:27 But were your parents like upset about it? Like when you bailed out of school? Oh my God. They were so mad. They were so mad. They were like the most supportive, lovely people. Like, like I said, when I did bad they were still like oh we love you you're so but like when I when I didn't
Starting point is 00:15:41 when I got kicked out of school I hadn't told them I didn't tell them it was going bad and in fact I told them the opposite I was like it's going pretty good you know what I mean because I didn't want to like fucking stress them out you know what I mean my point is like they're going to be stressed at some point why stress them out now and later when it's eminent that I'm not going because you ease into it yeah that's true you'd say oh if someone dies instead of saying hey look they passed away you don't you don't say well they're kind of sick right now and then the next week you say that is something I would do they're getting really sick like I'm not sure like this I don't know yeah I mean that's a good point it's a good point
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Starting point is 00:20:16 So yeah, they were really, really bummed out. But you know, then like four or five months after after that kind of went down, my dad had a friend whose brother was an improviser in Chicago. And at that time, this is like 95, 94. At that time, improv was really exploding in Chicago. You were having, like, people really start to figure out.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Second City. Improv Olympic, Annoyance Theater. All these are, like, really cool places. And so he took me to go see the Improv Olympics, oh, God, 10th or 15th anniversary. And I saw Amy Polar. I saw Adam McKay. I saw Tim Meadows specifically was so hilarious. I don't know if you ever work with Tim.
Starting point is 00:21:05 No. One of the funniest guys like around. And he was just so funny. I was like, oh, I could, I could baby. I see what they're doing. They're kind of just making shut. You thought in your mind when you're watching this, I could fit in. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah. I didn't know if I could be good at it or or, but it just, I was just like, this is so funny and it feels accessible as opposed to watching like the Chicago Bulls and being like, I can fucking do that. was it harder when you started doing it after you saw that obviously you were inspired and you started was it way harder than you thought it would be yeah it was you just get on stage and do it yeah yeah and yeah and i started seeing so many shows and again you were seeing such good people you were seeing like oh my god amy polar tina fey rachel dratch like just all these
Starting point is 00:21:50 amazing people and uh uh the first like you sign up for classes and then you know after you've done class is long enough you they let you do a show and i remember like that first show i was like invited my parents and a bunch of my friends because they all we're still living in chicago and it was fucking terrible you were bad oh i was bad the show was bad and as we know like when improv is really bad it's really awkward to watch yeah when it's great it's like magic when you're watching like good people improvise and it is just it's just funny you're just laughing but bad improv is fucking really rough. And that first show is really bad. And I could like hear, sometimes you can hear people's thoughts in their head a little bit. I could hear like my mom being like, oh, no. What is he
Starting point is 00:22:36 going to do? But after a while, you know, you just do it more. And then once you, you crap out and you see that you did bad and nothing happened, then you kind of, I think, have the, the, you know that the worst that could happen is they don't laugh. So you just get out there and do it. So you're okay. You're used to people not used to but you're accustomed to like not a custom but when people don't laugh oh yeah it doesn't bother you it did but then once you learn like okay then i got some laughs the next time you know what i mean then the next time i got even more laughs than time after that oh man that was a bad show fucking crowd hated us none of us were connecting but then you start it starts to outweigh the laugh starts to outweigh and then i think it's just like the whole fear of failing thing it's like
Starting point is 00:23:23 I failed. It's fine. I'm still here. I'm, you know what I mean? So I'm not, I'm not as afraid. So it gives you, I think, the courage to get out there and do more and kind of just have more swag out there. I think it's harder now to feel like that with cameras everywhere. And you're on Instagram. And look, I still think it's important to fail and in learning how to fail. But oh my God. Back when, when we were growing up, it's like no one really talked about it for that long and also too not only just failing but like a lot of times you know performers when they feel like they're failing they'll start to go really blue they'll start to get really dirty you know what i mean like like whether you're a stand-up or improviser you start to just swear a lot did you do
Starting point is 00:24:08 that oh god so bad well fuck you oh fuck this shit but like that is really bad when you're like going blue and saying like things to try to be shocking and shit and it's still not getting a lot no that's rough if they're not with you no they're not going to be with you all is to say like fucking glad there weren't cameras around back then because people were fucking saying crazy shit like trying to get a laugh and not getting laughs which is just like oh god you suck well when did you realize okay man I'm funny I've got I got this now I know what I'm doing you know there was there was um there was this famous guy who was passed away named del close I don't have you ever heard don't know he's he
Starting point is 00:24:52 was like, you know, famous Chicago figure. He was like a big improv progenitor. You know what I mean? He was kind of one of the grandfather. Then he do like, like Farley and all of. Oh, yeah. Farley, Bill Murray, all those guys. Or directed Second City was an actor and a bunch of things like Ferris Bueller and touchables, yada, yada. He was like the guru of Chicago improv scene. And once you get to level five, he used to take his class. And he just for some reason took a liking to this
Starting point is 00:25:20 particular class that we were all in and so we started doing a show who was in the class um anybody i'd know in this in this class no one you would probably specifically know but some just some great actors a couple people like my one guy was this guy named case clay who was like the funniest out of all of us and he was so funny that he's like I'm not going to go into comedy and showbiz I'm going to go work for my dad in kentucky but he was like the funniest guy could he still do it oh yeah at this age if he wanted to have you ever tried to contact clay oh we talk all the time why do you say clay just do a part he probably i don't know if he i don't even know if he wants to maybe well if you're listening case case case can you make him
Starting point is 00:26:01 clay yeah case it's good too calm i mean if you're saying he was the funniest in the class so funny such a funny but go ahead so this class but it was his class was just really really uh just kind of clicked and had a weird energy and i remember during that class doing shows and having the vibe for the first time where I was just very comfortable on stage. And I was like, I feel like I can kind of get away with more and more and go out there more and more. And that just allowed me to, yeah, over the three and a half years, I was in Chicago really kind of get super confident on stage where I could walk on stage with anyone at any time of the day. Like if Will Ferrell came up, you're like, let's go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Yes. Yes. And the funny part is I wasn't even really, really good yet, sounds really shitty to say. But like I had to go to Amsterdam, where I did this theater in Amsterdam where it was like a big theater, like 300 seats and you're doing like songs and raps and shit where you, in Chicago, you can be a very kind of like low five improviser. Do your thing. Yeah, you do your thing. You can kind of, you don't have to like put yourself out there that much and still get big laughs. But when you go and do a show like that, like it's like at the groundlings almost.
Starting point is 00:27:22 You go and do a show like the groundlings. You're putting your fucking shit out there. You know what I mean? Like you're swinging for the fences. You got to go big. You got to reach all the people who are a broad swath of the audience. And so that theater is where I really learned how I think to like play to like large crowds and stuff, which is something that I love to do. Did you even bomb at that occasionally?
Starting point is 00:27:42 Oh, for sure. For sure. Yeah. And it didn't phase. You're like, all right. I mean, you know, there was definitely things where, especially because that was, that plays boom Chicago their shows were half improv half written so that was where I started really writing sketch putting up sketches and there's a difference between bombing and an improv scene
Starting point is 00:28:00 and one of your sketches that you've written bomb when that bombs oh yeah that's a fucking that there were definitely times where I would get very mad like backstage and be like fuck you know what you get mad at other people like dude you fucking no you failed me no you don't do that in improv just like an improv just like an improv when someone says all right we're this is a beautiful day at the park you don't say no we're not at the park no rule number one an improv yes i'm sure people did that right oh yeah yeah yeah you get people uh you know especially you get so many people who would sign up for for classes and a third of them would just do it for a couple weeks and then leave and they were they're always funny people there uh doing it but anyways it was it uh i never got mad at anyone except for myself so what was the big break
Starting point is 00:28:46 for you because you met up with your boy i met up with my remet up with my buddy dave and at that point we were um really close with uh set meyers and his brother josh meyers and their friend jill benjamin who's great actor and the kind of five of us were like well if we're gonna move to l a let's let's go to l a so we all kind of moved to l a and then like absolutely nothing like that kind of quintessential first two years of Hollywood where you're like you're literally like no one is calling what are you doing at this point Jesus Christ like anything I can like I made money bus boy at mortons on Las Sienega um which was bus boy man that's fucking tough job that is a tow I did it once yeah it's hard back breaking they all get mad at you caring that fucking ice and the bottles and
Starting point is 00:29:39 fucking yelling up shit the customers like because you have to wear like a leather apron you don't have to wear like a half apron like the waiters you know the servers do the customer is like really treat you like everybody treat you like shit yeah it's rough so why you did a lot of stuff a lot of stuff was trying to do whatever I can and then at a certain point I did a two-man show with Josh Myers and mad TV had just basically lost three cast members four cast members lost like they were like mountain hiking no they they just they all like left the show yeah and uh so they had some vacancies and then i got hired to that so that was audition for that oh yeah you had to do that uh how how hard was it was fucking impossible
Starting point is 00:30:24 did you have to do impressions yeah i mean impressions are something that like i'm not a good impressionist but i can kind of capture the essence of a person i think kind of and so my impressions are like really good for like 10 seconds and then i'm just like just to start talking like myself but perfect for improv i mean if you're not exactly it's just like for just or just for bits you know hanging out with your friends and stuff but you got to do the thing for me was tough as characters you know like you know like the groundlings guys they get up and they're like oh they're like i'm i'm the chip mob fucking exterminator and they're fucking like so locked in and great at it and i was very bad at that so that was something i don't know if they're
Starting point is 00:31:03 going to hire me but they did and you did that for how many years three five five years i did five baby but you didn't love your experience entirely did you I overall I did you did I did I was bummed out the way it ended because they didn't resign me is that what happened yeah I was so fucking embarrassing too because it was like like I really did love everyone who worked there and it was just you know when you're young when you're young and you're on a show and you've been there for a couple years you you really are like I know how the show should be run and you you just get it you get a get angry, I think. You know, like, you just get angry. Oh, they didn't pick this sketch.
Starting point is 00:31:46 They would have picked this sketch. This could be, this could be a really great show, yada, yada, all that. Right. But like, I was, I remember, like, I told my manager, I was like, hey, listen, you know, my contract's up. Obviously, they're going to resign me. So just so you know, like, if they want me back, it's going to really cost them. I've never asked. Oh, you're in that, mindset. Yeah. That mindset on vacation in Colorado with my wife. Yeah, listen, if they call, I'm on vacation, and they're going to have to get a lot more money. I, like, literally, we were about to go to this dinner. It was like a birthday gift.
Starting point is 00:32:18 We're going to like the Food and Wine Festival. And I was like so excited. And my manager called me and he goes, okay, so, uh, their offer currently is, is nothing. And I don't expect that to change. Um, and I was like, what do you mean? Because they're just, they don't, I think they're just saying goodbye. And I was like, what? I was like, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I go, are you fucking serious? He goes, yeah I'm really sorry I don't know what to say and I was like okay um so that was a bummer that how do you get past that do you dwell on things do you hurt for a while for a little bit yeah yeah ego yeah ego yeah ego for sure because all my friends were still there Jordan and Bobby Lee and Keegan and Nicole Parker Mike McDonald so so at first and then I think it was probably the reason I held on to that longer than I should have was I kind of thought, like, okay, well, I'm off that show, time to, you know, offer Hollywood,
Starting point is 00:33:18 you know, my full services. Let's go. What do you got? I'm ready for a pilot. And like, I got nothing for like years and years and years. Nothing. Like very tiny small things here and there. Like that hurts.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Oh, fucking killed me. Like pilot season, man. Like I was like, I would. Oh my God. I was just talking to someone about it there. it was like driving around like all day you know what i mean driving to like burbank in the morning for like a cbs pilot and then driving in the afternoon to the west side and then going to sunset gower and like four with different clothes in your car to change i was just like someone please
Starting point is 00:34:01 fucking hire me yeah and they just no bites uh and at that point you're worried that your agents are going to let you go uh yeah they're going to fire me i'm not getting many money i'm not earning anything i had had already met my she was you know my then girlfriend my now wife and i i remember booking a movie and i was so excited because i was like i can now buy a ring for her like i can buy an engagement ring and like it was it was it was like a really rough three years so i think probably in my little weird mind i was like i've applied all the pain I've had those years to Mad TV.
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Starting point is 00:37:20 the ultimate off-road challenge. Learn more at landrover.ca. Who is the one who made you laugh the most on Matt TV? I mean, do you love them all? Let's say that. Yes. But who's the one that could always get. get you uh definitely i mean again i there's a lot of people you could say sure jordan peel i think is
Starting point is 00:37:44 like one of the funniest people ever and was such an underrated sketch actor i know it sounds crazy because keene peel was such a huge show yeah but i think now just he's a director and he's making movies people like fucking forget but like he's in my like all-time top five sketch actors ever so funny wow holy shit is he funny yeah he is fun in his career oh it's a shame yeah i know it's it sucks listen does he still ever throw you a bone he offered me the daniel collier part and nope and i uh yeah you just weren't right for it no i was right for you i passed i didn't like it i was like i don't want to do it and and and we went back and forth with him begging me and finally i was like jordan i love you but nope
Starting point is 00:38:37 But just like your movie, nope. Nope. Anyways, Daniel was brilliant in it. I'm happy for him. Yeah. You don't even really have to laugh. You can just continue. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:38:55 But how did you? So this happened, you're devastated. You're at the winery with your friends. You have no job. Yeah. When did you start going? I'm going to start writing stuff. I'm going to get, you know, I'm going to, because you were already writing sketch comedy and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:10 You're already doing that. Yep. But when did you get noticed? When was the thing that really like, boom? So my partner, he, he left to go work for, you know, pardon the interruption. Yep. One of the greatest shows of all time. He lived and lived in D.C. for a couple of years and worked on that show.
Starting point is 00:39:26 And I think as, you know, a year and a half into me being like, what the fuck is going on here? He was ready to think come back. Because I was like, hey, man, I'm ready to, like, write full time now because no one wants my service as an actor. So he came back out and we really just kind of committed to writing, which, you know, at first was just like, let's, our day will be structured thus. We will spend an hour and a half talking about an idea for what would be the shittiest movie ever. We'll spend an hour making a humongous sandwich. we will watch ESPN for an hour and a half after that, and that's the day. And we did that for like years.
Starting point is 00:40:09 But we would write movies. We'd write movies that were just like in retrospect. They were just like funny, but like we didn't know how to really, really write a movie yet. We were just kind of learning. And I think the third one we wrote, we got to Ed Helms because we wrote one of the parts for him. And he was like, I love this. And that got set up and that became central intelligence. So that was a movie that we sold at a studio, you know, you pass what I call it,
Starting point is 00:40:37 the crazy test, you know, Hollywood, you got to pass these tests if you want to work. You got to sell something. Got to sell something. Like, you got to book something to book really something else. Kind of, they just need to make sure, like, you're not crazy and that they can give you money and you will be, they will be given something. Right, right. And so, so yeah, so from that point on.
Starting point is 00:40:55 The door is open. The door is open for us to go and, you know, you go on the water bottle tour where you go and you just give you a bottle of water. You sit with various production executives and development executives and they tell you ideas based on articles they've read in Vanity Fair and then you're like,
Starting point is 00:41:12 go and write a movie about that. And pay you? Well, I mean, it's always, I always had fantasies that like you can walk in and just they'll be like, hey, here's our idea, we're paying you, go. Doesn't happen. It kind of,
Starting point is 00:41:27 now we're at the point where we kind of can self-futable. things without it being a derby but they always whenever like an executive pitches you something usually they pitch someone else that because they want to see who's got the best one and then whoever has the best one they'll pay they don't want to like pay you and go down unless you're like a you know like a list you know right but but we we just spent years we would get like a rewrite movie every year or we would sell a spec every year and then we were just kind of existing definitely as writers more. That's great. How did the Mindy project happen? We got hired as writers. We
Starting point is 00:42:05 my partner and I always had this like kind of push and pull thing where he was like we need to be staffing on a show. And I was like once you staff, it's impossible to act. Like you cannot tell your showrunner. Hey, I need to leave it noon today. I have an audition. Like they just, they're writers. I have three auditions. I got suits in my car. Changes. I'm going to drive to Burbank. Yeah, I don't have time for Yeah, your show, your Harvard Lampoon showrunners are like, fuck off. So I was like, I don't know if I'm 100% ready to give up acting because I, after we had sold things, I, you know, I had started doing some acting here and there. I got cast on Eastbound and Down. Danny McBride.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I know. I was so close to getting cast. I tested with him between me and Ken Marino and Ken Marino got it. You would have killed that part. But it was great. It was a great opportunity. He came up. Danny came up to me after.
Starting point is 00:42:57 He was, dude, we loved you. We loved you tape and buy. It just met the world to me because I, I think he's, and he started improvising with me and I just, I hung. It was great. I felt like, I just, I think he, to me, he's one of the funniest people in the planet. Oh my God. Him and Kristen Wake to me are like the two funny.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Yeah, yeah. I mean, he is, and I loved that show. And so I, the point is I was like, I don't, I want to act a little too still. You know what I mean? And our agent was like, hey, Mindicke. Kaling. She left the office. She's doing her own show. They're staffing. I think you guys could be right for this. Ike, maybe there's like a part you could act on because she likes you as an actor. She was complimentary spound down. So we, we saw her pilot. We loved it. We met with her. And we just, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:45 I think she's one of the funniest people on the planet. And we just really got along with her right, you know, right away. And like two weeks later, we were sitting in the writer's room with her. And she said to me, She's like, I want to write a part for you or we'll figure out a part for you. And I thought it was going to be like, I always say like, it was going to be like the masturbating janitor. You know what I mean? I was going to say janitor. Yeah, like I'm the orderly who like like keeps jacking off or something. But she wrote this character for me.
Starting point is 00:44:15 And I remember she handed me the sides. And I was so exciting. Because I was like, holy shit. This is so funny. It's so like tailored to me. And God bless her. she went to the network and was like it's going to be him i'm not you cannot test people like it's just him and they i think the network always wants to test they always want to they love options
Starting point is 00:44:38 and uh so yeah i really love her for that i mean it seems to me like you're you know you're a writer a staff writer on the show don't you want to kind of write for yourself more and more and you're like hey why why do i keep writing more and more for this character he always says ideas so here's the deal so uh like this is the third sex scene you've pitched in this episode for yourself yeah not that kind of show uh you know i will say i was actually mindy and i think the writers pitched so much for me that i you just sat back i just kind of sat back i love we had i loved um pitching for her character i love pitching for christmas scenic character i i i love pitching for ed weeks and so like i i
Starting point is 00:45:27 definitely was having fun of it was it a fun job oh my god did you just was it was one of the like if you have to say that's like the most fun i've had yeah i mean yeah that was that was the big one you know the first few years were very stressful mostly because proving yourself proving ourselves and also we we got on the air on network tv right right as streaming really started blowing up and literally like if you look at i'm you know the tv ratings like a year or to before us, even the year before us, and to what they all kind of started becoming, it was, it was clear that like, like network, the network TV, the rating model was kind of going away. And we were, but from our point of view, we were like, oh, no, you know what I
Starting point is 00:46:16 mean? Like compared to like, you know, Mindy would compare it to like the office, which is just like, was a huge show at a time where there was no streaming really. So it was just the stress of being kind of caught in the network overnight Nielsen model as things are changing so much just made it stressful. And how many seasons did you do? We did six. So this time when you went to when you talked to your agent said, hey, they got offered me a lot more money to come back here. I'm an actor and a writer. Did you, I guess you negotiated both? I think I think we had a six year deal. I think we Yeah, but everybody negotiates after the second season. I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:46:58 You can't remember. I honestly, my partner gets really bad at you because like I truly like forget a lot of these details. Like I just I just don't. You're not a business guy. You don't really. You don't really care. I,
Starting point is 00:47:12 I care that you want to get paid. I want to make sure like I'm being paid fairly. Like that's my thing. And I will say from what I remember, they were always incredibly generous with their with their payment. Especially it was because it was the first. I fucking got real TV money. Mad TV was late night money, dude.
Starting point is 00:47:30 You know what I mean? Matt TV was bad TV money. I mean, they didn't pay anybody on that show, right? No. I mean, you may be like, you know, if you were like there past like seven, eight years maybe, but like it was standard late night contracts then. So it was fractional compared to what you would get on a, on a network show. But after this, you started getting offers to do other things.
Starting point is 00:47:51 They're like, he could handle this. After Monday? Yeah. Yeah. That's what really broke the ice in a lot of ways. Yeah, yeah, because I think if you are able to work on a show pretty much from the beginning and it's a show that has some level of success where, you know, you're doing 100 plus episodes, I think that just shows people, you know, and also to my partner and I were very comfortable on set. Like, it's great to be in the room. I love the writer's room. It's fun. It's hilarious. But set, I think we were both good on set. I think Mindy thought we were both good on set because we're like, I mean a one. fun amenable guys from the Midwest who are not like you're throwing stuff out if a key grip asks us a question we're not like oh you know right you can take care of yourself yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:48:36 so I I uh I was really grateful that she let us had that experience because I think that really helped us when we've gone on to to run shows you seem like the guy that's always you'll try to help out a friend you'll always try to throw a bone yeah what do you need we need some money what do you need no oh but for instance Ryan's girlfriend Amanda Does she need some money? No, she auditioned for something and I believe it was you who kind of pushed. She ended up not getting it, but she got so close and it was because of you, right? Amanda Phillipson.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. But like Ryan told me the store and I thought, that's so sweet. It was really nice. She was like, I love her. I was a champion. He championed me. I have been very lucky to have many people advocate for me for things.
Starting point is 00:49:26 over the years i've had a lot of people that haven't yeah but um i i've been lucky that people have and been really like kind to me so you know but she's just also hilarious and funny i'm known her forever so uh that was an easy one yeah yeah uh i had to work a lot with her uh it was really fun for her to do oh man that's great hoops hoops Netflix hoops oh uh what's happening running point oh is that changed name change name running point fk a hoops a know what that is formerly known as formerly known as fkaa and you wrote this in executive produce with mindy and dave stassen and dave stassen who does everything with yeah yeah yeah he's the showrunner who came up with this idea this is mindy cailing um she had she's a big basketball fan and she met
Starting point is 00:50:17 with she met jeannie bus who's one of my closest friends where you and i are you and i met yes and she was just blown away by Jeannie as one is. And she got her book and was like, oh, in Mindy's mind, she's like, oh, I can make this a funny basketball family behind the scene show. And she called Dave and I, knowing that we're very, very big basketball fans. And we hadn't worked with her in like a few years since Mindy ended, but we've always been looking for something just because we love her so much. And we tried a few times to figure things out. But she's always so busy so we were like oh yeah for sure where we're in and it took a while just it took time like we were finishing up history of the world and melbrooks my god i mean come on and just
Starting point is 00:51:07 a great guy just he's in the car he's waiting for me yeah i thought i thought i saw him yeah i cracked the window he was having a nap yeah yeah and your navigator he is a oh uh wonderful every dream dream upon dream upon dream um but anyways we we we had the strike we had that and then we we got our our amazing room assembled with some great writers. And then we, we, we, uh, we got Kate Hudson to play the genie part. And that was, uh, that was kind of next level. That's when it all of a sudden became like, oh, shit, you know, when can we watch this? Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Um, can you, can you call Netflix? So it's up to them. It's up to them. Right. Sometime next year. Sometime next year. Was that a, an enjoyable process? Was it a difficult process?
Starting point is 00:51:51 It was so, so much. fun is so funny i'm so proud of the show it's so hysterical it's so ridiculous um it was hard in the sense that it's just it is hard to make shows it is hard to to make a show um you keep the schedule keep things going yeah you want is you want more money you want more time and i feel like a lot of stuff just changes now and you have to do stuff for maybe a little bit less is kind of the normal um and making a sport show is tough yeah but uh god damn it's so funny kate hudson is so what is what is what differentiates this from other shows it's it's about a basketball team but it's really it's about a family it's about a family who has some pretty big issues but they love
Starting point is 00:52:45 each other and uh it's just like i you know everyone's like oh is it winning time and i'm like no i would tell you if it was winning time right um which i really enjoyed winning time but winning time was all about like basketball and like the like like drug addiction and like it was like had a real hard edge to it this is family this is family and just funny we're just trying to make you laugh we're not trying to like it's it's just a hard comedy and how many episodes 10 episodes 10 episodes and that took probably from the inception to finishing it probably took you two and a half three years guy yeah that's exactly right is that exhausting three years doing the same same thing. Do you get eight you have ADD where you're just like I'm low you're doing it do you do
Starting point is 00:53:26 other things on the side you're always writing something and always at least writing one thing on the side or like you know I got kids so I you know what I mean like I I it's it's it's but it is it is a long time it takes a long time for to make stuff these days it's it's just again they need another level of vetting and another level of making sure that like their investment is going to pay off and that the show is going to be good and that it's going to blah blah blah blah so it's just it's it takes a long time to get tedious sticking fumblings in the back seats of cause we can only dream of getting out getting anywhere getting all the way to the fbi i did you hear that yeah he hears all the time or things like it
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Starting point is 00:55:48 it was just it was just like a miscommunication and it's it happens all the time um it just doesn't i don't think it happens to but you got hurt oh i got hurt i got hurt but i'm like totally fine now but what happened watch us ready oh my god i heard something correct no but like no no something hit your hat or something oh yeah no i would basically just did like a fall and it was just like i did not know i was just supposed to kind of not do it. And so I just kind of did it. But it was not too, it was like, you know, 18 feet. But I had just fallen on the wrong mat. And so it just, it sucked. But like, it, you get over it. And you know, you get lucky sometimes. You just get lucky. You probably got lucky. Oh, you fucking got
Starting point is 00:56:36 could have been a lot worse. Oh, my God. But you were done that day. That was the end of the movie. It was literally the last day of the movie. So it was like, thank God. Literally for them. Because I fucking love that movie. Yeah. So that was like week three and they had to like replace me right after it went to the hospital right after it went to the hospital and like thankfully my wife was randomly in town for business so she came and took care of me and the worst part about it was I had to wear a neck brace which is um inherently comical a piece of medical equipment you know what I mean it's like it ain't like if you're fucking you got like a fucking giant cast on your arm you're like well yeah you got this on people are like what are you fucking an extra night court? that was the worst part of man i think bull were one of those definitely yeah full time yeah yeah yeah he went um your dad was the judge and jury yes yes how did that happen this is the crazy he's hysterical he's like such a good actor so good i was like who is this guy's fucking crazy so he wanted to be an actor when he was young like in the 60s and he um he he tried like he he did some
Starting point is 00:57:48 stand up and he did theater and stuff but i think right away he was like oh this this is too hard and i married my mom at that point he's like i'm just going to go to law school i want to go to law school and i want to be a lawyer like blah blah blah so he became a lawyer and became like a trial attorney and he was incredibly supportive of me and my brother john is as an actor too he was i don't know if you saw the show american auto but no but i've heard of it so fucking funny in that show so so anyway he was very supportive of my brother and i and he'd come to like almost every show even there were a couple nights where he brought him on stage and did shit with him you know what I mean he was just always like good he was game he was game man
Starting point is 00:58:26 but he's also like you didn't tell me your father was gay he's gay man oh game I said game I know I know what you're saying he's gay man he's gay man sounds like Joe Biden saying he's gay man he's gay man Alan's a good guy he's a gay man from jury pool North Dakota Um, he, he basically, though, was living vicariously through my brother and I. Long story short, two years ago, a friend of a friend text me, hey, we're doing a show and it's a pilot, experimental, hybrid comedy, courtroom and need someone that knows legalese. Can you put your dad on tape? And it just sounded.
Starting point is 00:59:13 I was just like, this is just like a fucking student film or something. You know what I mean? this is not like a you know what I mean I don't know what the fuck this is but sure yeah of course I'll put my dad down so my dad comes over my brother and I put him on tape and he's really good like my brother and I like gave each other like the and so we sent it in and then I was like oh it's fucking Susie Ferris you know Susie Ferris cat yeah oh my god that's okay this might be a real thing. Then like the next day or two days later, my buddy Dave Bernard, who's like a big time producer, he does like a fucking white lotus. He texts me and he's like, your dad is so great.
Starting point is 00:59:57 We got to hire him. It was like, he's producing the show. I was like, oh my God. Like this still seemed ridiculous to me. They hire him. He shoots it. He stays with me for part of the shoot. it was equal parts like very charming to watch him be on set and come home and tell me about it but then there was also times where I was like I fucking know dude you know what I mean like yeah and then they did this and then we were you know who the real glue is is the second AD I'm like I know because they do ever they do the schedule while we're all on set with the first AD. Second AD is in a trailer doing the schedule. I know that. I fucking know. Yeah. And the guy who does the lighting, it looks like a courtroom. What's it called? Like a quarter. The gopher.
Starting point is 01:00:49 I think it's the gaffer dad. Yep. That's it. That's it. This guy is great. And he knows you. But it was so charming and wonderful. And then I remember the night the show came out. He texted me. He's like, or he's like, hey, we're going to watch tonight, blah, blah. And we watch it. And I was like, the show is so funny. Like, I knew the premise. With that premise is risky. Like, you get the wrong guy. You get the wrong team executing.
Starting point is 01:01:15 They know it. Yeah. Done. Done. And people hate you. Yeah. But like, just everything kind of just laid perfectly, perfect circumstances, perfect guy.
Starting point is 01:01:25 They handled it perfectly. So it was so good. And he was so great on it. And so were you blown away by how good he was? Blown away. Blown away. Not surprised, like, not shocked, but surprised. not surprised but you know what i mean like just like what the fuck and then the thing that really blew
Starting point is 01:01:40 me away was the last episode when they gave him the the kind of wrap-up spiel the reveal i was like holy shit they loved you so he did he have an earpiece and they're throwing shit at him uh yes i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know probably for some of it um but he just he just absolutely killed and i got to say it is crazy how many people saw that show because everywhere he goes now people are like checking him out like be like it's fucking crazy that is so dope it's like 72 it's the nicest story it's like good nepotism it's it's like sweet nepotism it's great um and he's just living his best life you work a lot of assholes in this business have you work with some people that you're just like i'll never work with him again god damn it's so funny
Starting point is 01:02:30 i was just talking their day not to drop names i was talking to seth rogan about this and i there's I've been so lucky. I've been so lucky. Like, there is, like, very, like, I could name on one hand some of people that, and there's not even people that I would, like, say, like, oh, I fucking hate them. They were just like, oh, I didn't have a great experience with them. But I've been very lucky because it can be, if you're, like, on a series with someone who's bad or you're like.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Or just pain in the ass. It could bring down the morale. Yeah. I've been there. I've been on there. I've seen, like, moments of, like, times, strangely more on features. Like, I've had more people on features where I was like, fucking, thank God, I'm not on a series with this fucking asshole, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:18 But have you ever had to step in and kind of, like, say, put your foot down and say, hey, man, like, hey, we got it. Like, what's up? God. No. Good for you. No, I don't. I'm lucky.
Starting point is 01:03:29 I have not been in bad positions, really. I've just been really blessed, I guess. Hashtag bless. This is called shit talking with like Barron Holtz. This is rapid fire. You're going to answer these questions fast if you want. Got it. Go to patreon.com slash inside of you become a patron and support the podcast.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Come on. Here we go. Come on, do it, man. Don't be a dick. Don't be a dick about it. Be a patron. Jeremy C. What would you be doing if you weren't an actor?
Starting point is 01:03:56 Definitely something in the food world like a chef or working in a restaurant for sure. Not a Jeopardy host? Oh, fuck. I mean, yeah, I would love that. But, you know, they're booked. super sam rapid fire had you get involved in the history of the world part two and do you have any fun stories you could share i cried laughing while watching oh fucking love you dog uh nick croll called me and my partner dave and said do you want to do a history of the world part two with me and mel bruce
Starting point is 01:04:22 and wanda sykes and uh it was the world's fastest yes um uh i'm trying to think of a funny story uh mel at the premiere showed up no one thought he was in a come but he came and it was when And it was like raining every day in L.A. for like two months. And it stopped raining that day. And Mel gets on stage and the audience goes crazy because they did not expect to see Mel Brooks. And he gets up there and he goes, I want you all to know that a car ride over here, I was listening to a man on the radio and I really took in what he said.
Starting point is 01:04:56 And I want to share it with you right now. We're going to have scattered storms coming in tomorrow at noon because there's a low pressure front coming in from Canada. everybody just died the room just exploded oh god uh rachel d which one of your fondest memories of working on the middy project if you can think of one um i i think breaking uh uh with mindy uh while we're acting which i know people have hot takes about some people hate when actors break you know what i mean because it can kind of seem jerk offy and kind of like annoying but like her and i and a Christmas scene at Zosha like we would make each other break a lot there's somewhere on
Starting point is 01:05:37 YouTube there's like a like a 12 minute clip of us just breaking and like if I'm ever like bummed out like I would watch that because it's just we're laughing at the absolute stupidest shit of all time so I would say that and or the food trucks did you think that the whole jeopardy thing were you nervous about going on jeopardy yes very why because you didn't want to appear to be stupid i just said what i love jeopardy i've been watching it since i was a young boy um i you know when i got called to be on celeb jeopardy i i had seen every celebrity jeopardy i knew the questions would be easier and to me like i just didn't want to do badly and so luckily i went on i won that first game just kind of handily and uh and then the second one was a little bit
Starting point is 01:06:23 tougher and then uh going into that third one i was super nervous i for some reason when I first saw all of the names of the celebs who were playing. I said to you myself, I said, I'm going to play Patton. I was pretty sure I was going to play Brendan Hunt. And I came very close to playing Brendan Hunt is my buddy. But I knew I was going to play Patton just because he's, I just no Patton. And I know he's just on. Yeah. He's the fucking greatest guy, the funniest guy. But he's such a like a trivia boy. You know what I mean? So I'm going up against that, those to him and Will Wheaton was definitely nerve-wracking, but was one of the more fun moments. What?
Starting point is 01:07:08 I mean, you want a million dollars for your charity. We did. Don't you wish you got like a stipend or something? You should get a little bit of a fucking finesse fee. Hey, how about five percent of this? Let me wet my beak a little bit. How about how excited were they? Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:07:20 They were so, so excited. And they're like the greatest people. Shout out Holly Grove, Pacific Clinics. They're like literally like there's so many people. as you know in the city that are just on the brink and they really helped them. So they were like super excited. And then I went back on to do the tournament of champions. And I won this.
Starting point is 01:07:41 I got out of the quarterfinals. I made it to the semis and I lost the fucking last second. Oh, God damn. What was the question? Oh, fuck, Michael. Oh, my God. It was no, I'll tell you. What was the final jeopardy question?
Starting point is 01:07:54 The final jeopardy question was the one I won or the one I lost? Lost. What I lost was it was the classic poetry. And it was, it was, this Greek writer, I can't remember who, wrote this about the enemies, about these enemies of Greece. And it was like a passage he wrote or something. And so I was like, okay, this guy is a Greek poet. he wrote a a work about
Starting point is 01:08:27 one of the enemies of ancient Greece who are the enemies of ancient Greece and the whole time bum bum bum bum bum bum Lamboors I have no idea I have the moops I had no idea I knew it was either Spartans or Persians
Starting point is 01:08:39 and I just 50-50 it and I was like fucking Spartans and it was Persians really you would have won I would have gone to the finals if that would have happened were you bummed that one actually really really bummed me out
Starting point is 01:08:51 because I just I just fucking can you go back are you allowed to go back in celebrity jeopardy oh oh yeah I'm sure that I could go back one day yeah yeah oh yeah I'd be too scared I watch jeopardy and I'm decent but I think I'd freeze do you freeze up there right you're hyper focused no you you you the best thing you can do is just watch jeopardy that's the best practice a lot of it is buzzer is like getting the buzzer at the right time I think um but it you just press it even if you don't like You haven't read the question? No, you've got to wait until the question is red, but you're locked out, right?
Starting point is 01:09:28 And if you ring before, so basically they have this little light that goes around each question, and it's timed out with Ken Jennings' voice. And if you answer before he has stopped talking, which coordinates perfectly with the box light going off, you're locked out for like a quarter of a second. Which could be everything. Which could be everything. So you have to wait just that moment. But then what you need to do.
Starting point is 01:09:52 do is you don't want to just ring you want to like almost do it like a nintendo controller because if you rang once but someone else got it and then they rang they they they didn't they got the wrong answer you want to make sure that like you're still basically like you're you're you're not locked out did they give you like a little tutorial practice around yeah you do like a 20 minute tutorial and then they give you like a little mini practice round so everyone knows how it works and there's no did you kind of study i just watched jeopardy that's it you just watch jeopardy that's it and you're good at jeopardy i i'm i'm good at jeopardy i'm not like great i'm not like you know one of the grades but like i wouldn't have done well with poetry i wouldn't have done well with any kind of literature the difference
Starting point is 01:10:37 between i will say the difference between the celeb questions and the the tournament champion questions where that was a real real fucking umdinger there was i think at least two categories in the tournament champions whole categories that i was like i don't know don't know don't know Yeah. I don't know. But it was so much fun. I love that show. I love Jeopardy.
Starting point is 01:10:57 They're my people. I know you got to pick up your kid. Let me just ask you this. What's coming out? What are you working on? What can people look forward to? Because they got to see it. We very excited about Running Point, which hopefully comes out next year.
Starting point is 01:11:09 We'll definitely come on next year to a question of win. So funny. Yes. I just wrapped acting on a show with Seth Rogan. Really? Catherine O'Hara. Wow. Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Catherine. What's that? It's called. the studio and it is about show business we'll show that show business the studio the studio it's about like the last uh independently owned movie studio in in the business that's not that's not that's not like a multi that sounds fun i like that atmosphere it's for listen it's for us it's for and i don't mean jewish people yeah when i say that i mean it's for everyone it's for yes it's so fun and funny and favorite movie of all time good fellas no hesitation favorite actor of all time
Starting point is 01:11:55 philip seymour hoffman wow yeah favorite comedian of all time uh richard prior wow yeah funniest joke you ever heard this uh gym coach is a sex ed teacher you know so he comes into the sex ed class a bunch of high schoolers and he's holding a banana and he goes all right kids today i'm going to teach you how to put on a condom but i got to eat this banana first because I can't get hard on an empty stomach. Oh my God. I don't know where I heard that. Maybe Jeff Ross.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Two old guys are on the front porch. And one guy says, how was your camping trip? Yeah, the guy says, it was pretty good except the last night a beer comes into my tent. Ra, he's shit in my pants. He says, no, no. Look, if a bear came into my tent in the middle of the night and went, rah, I'd shit my pants too. He says, no, no, just a second ago when I went, rah, that's. I shut my pants.
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