Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - JAMES & OLIVER PHELPS: Weasley Brothers, Harry Potter Audition & Sharing Mental Health Struggles

Episode Date: September 5, 2023

Awesome episode this week! James & Oliver Phelps (Harry Potter, Fantastic Friends) joins us to share their experience in one of the biggest film and media franchises of all time - Harry Potter. The boys share funny stories from their journey as the Weasley twins from auditioning in different clothes, to preventing tanning while on vacation, to talking about weekend plans with Dumbledore. James and Oliver also talk about the dichotomy of their relationship on their travel show, their twin powers, and the differences between their recent struggles with mental health. Thank you to our sponsors: ❤️ Betterhelp: https://betterhelp.com/inside 🍽️ Factor: factormeals.com/inside50 🟠 Discover: https://discvr.co/3Cnb1V8 🏈 PrizePicks: https://prizepicks.com/inside __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou 👕 Inside Of You Merch: https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🤣 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod 🌐 Website: https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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guests ryan how are you i'm all right you're right yeah yeah still going to therapy Still going to therapy. Yeah, a little stressed? A little stressed. Life's a little bit in flux right now, but I'm doing okay with it. I feel like everybody's kind of feeling like that. It's a weird time. It's a weird time.

I don't know why. In the industry especially. Mercury and retrograde, is that a thing? I've never said that before in my life. What does it actually mean? I have no idea. Yeah, great. Well, I hope things get better for everyone, everyone, including you guys out there.

I hope you're taking care of yourself, your mental health, and trying to exercise, trying to do things differently, break bad habits. All you can do is try to do. try one foot in front of the other and uh being good to yourself is is a big part of it um phelps brothers you guys know him from the harry potter movies um they have a another show a reality show they're doing together a travel show which is awesome and they got me to do a travel show so john heater and i napoleon dynamite jeez why are we traveling we're doing a show called scared and we go to the creepiest places in the world. And there's my little puppy. Hi, Charlie. Look how cute Charlie.

Come here, Charlie. Hello. I love these guys. I've hung out with them many times and it's always a treat and they really get deep. So let's get into Oliver and James Phelps, also known as the Phelps brothers. It's my point of view. You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. Hey folks, wanted to highlight something important before today's episode. In case you weren't aware, myself and many of the guests are on strike alongside SAG after NWGA. Today's episode, and any we air before the strike ends, were recorded before it began. So this is just a heads up in relation to some for the top.

topics we may discuss. If you want more info on the strike, visit sag afterstrike.org. Now let's get into it. Aren't people in England supposed to look older for their age? No, I thought no Americans look older. They're like, look at Greece. They're all meant to be in high school, right? Yeah. That is very true. That is very, very true. What a treat having you guys. Last time I saw you was Australia. Yeah, that was fun trip. That was fun. Really fun trip, yeah.

It was, um, yeah, I know we spoke about doing it then. So yeah, it's great to be able to actually sort it out finally. I know. And be able to, uh, get things going. It's awesome. You got, yeah, it's not easy to, to pin you down because you're doing a lot. Are you guys still doing the podcast, normal, not normal still? Are you still doing that?

Are you now just doing the travel show? Not at the moment. It's just the, the travel show because, simply because, well, you know how you're obviously know how much work goes into making podcasts and all that kind of stuff. And whilst we were traveling as well, it was quite a long time when we're away from our situation when we're at home, we're away from our families enough that we kind of wanted to be at home, like actually at home instead of actually I'm just going to get to the office for a couple of hours. Yeah, exactly. So I was just talking before we started recording. By the way, I never call you Ollie.

Do you hate Ollie? You have to hate it. No, no. It's actually what nice my mate to call me, to be on this. That's all good. Ollie and Jimmy, or Jimbo, what do they call you? Do you know, I've got so many different people call me so many different things. It's quite funny. Do you have this, like, different people where you'd say you filmed in different locations or you spend a period of time?

Do those people know you, obviously, they know you're a slight different way to people from other parts. So my pals in London call me Jim, my best friend who's also from London called me Jay. my pal's here call me jimmy people in i know i grew up so whatever you want to call me i'm good okay asshole so here's the yeah no um yeah it's funny because yeah my uncle will go mike he'll call me mike my uncles will call me mike my dad will say michael my mom will say mike some friends will call me rosy some you know it's like it's just all over the place but uh what a boring start to this conversation um now look you guys do a lot of stuff together i mean obviously how many harry potter

movies you did 11 is it 10 or how many did eight seems like 11 seems like 11 years yeah eight years you did that together do you guys it i mean i have you know john heater who we had dinner with napoleon dynamite he's a good buddy of mine and um you know he has a twin brother dan and they can say the same thing at the same time. They will, they think alike. They like the same thing. Everything is like, wow. There's minimal differences in these guys with these guys.

What about you guys? Are there bigger differences or do you hate to say that there's not a lot of differences? But what are the differences? He's going first with it. I would say not to the point of obviously the guys, because they are yeah, as you say, they're very

probably more connected maybe in that frame if you know what I mean, like the finishing time sent to saying the same stuff at the same time. I think there was probably a time when we would do something

very, very similar to that. Probably the more time you spend with each other, maybe you get like that. But I think in other tendencies we're very different in terms of, you know, in terms of like

how you, you think, how you perceive yourself, how you interact with other people as well, maybe. There's a difference there. Like, there's yeah, so I think you do see differences in that and it's quite funny when people may look at you and

think, they must be like the same, they must have the same thing. And it's quite funny when after a while you speak to someone and they say, oh, yeah, you guys are quite different in terms of you're more chatting this scenario, whereas you're more laid back in that scenario. There's different all the round. What about you, James? Because I always perceive when I meet you guys, you're both really friendly and open and smart and you're good with the fans. I see fans even coming in at when

we went to the little bar after dinner and they're coming to you. They don't recognize me or heater or anything, but they're just going straight to you guys, the weasleys and I'm like, fuck, you know, these guys are popular. But you're always so friendly and open. But I definitely see and tell me if I'm wrong, James is a little more reserved than Ali. Is that true? Yeah, too, to go. Well, in, I'm very much, I'm more than happy at times to be an observer kind of thing. Like I, I enjoy surveying the room and surveying the, what's going on and then kind of chip in with a comment now and then.

So it was, I was reading a book years ago. And it was very, I can't actually remember the title of it now, but I remember that the lead character was kind of always aware of people who don't speak a lot, but when they speak, you listen more, if that makes sense. So I always, if I'm meeting new people, I purposely try and do that. So I'm not over, over meing them. You know what? That's really funny to say that because now I know I know and listens to me.

It makes perfect sense. I'm always talking. But you're not except to the rule. We can, you can hear you come. that's all right i guess i wouldn't say they don't listen to me i think i have you know good ideas and things and they listen but uh you know sometimes uh yeah i i see it but there's nice that there's a little bit of a difference like that you know um i think it works for your show and what's what's the name of the show travel show you mean the fantastic friends travel show you mean the fantastic

friends travel show it's just fantastic friends yeah so um yeah think about it so we we wrap season two and I was gutted we couldn't we couldn't get you on this one I know I wish that the date sort of aligned for that one but we'll do it we'll get there one day yeah so we wrapped on that recently so we're now in the post-production stages but it was it was really cool we had a lot of fun and those guys who have seen the first season it's pretty much much much more of the same where we go to different locations with a new guest every week and it's a lot of it was trying new things so i'm more of like i would rather go in a you know i'd rather jump off a bridge and something something silly like

well something adventurous and adrenaline pump like that whereas oliver's a bit more he'd rather go to like find a nice food places and um yeah more culture and uh the guests would normally be somewhere in between so we kind of want to show that you could go away into a new place. But actually, if you're with someone else, you do things which you wouldn't necessarily do before. And that may be something, that may be the highlight of your trip. I mean, you didn't necessarily realize that would be it. It's kind of like a married couple in a lot of ways. You've got a compromise because, you know, Oliver likes to do his thing. You want to do your thing. So you're like, all right, we'll go to your thing, your art gallery. We'll check out some art shit. And then we're

going to go skydiving. You cool with that? And you kind of work it out there. I mean, is that sort of the way it works? Yeah. Yeah, kind of. I mean, we were, the way the concepts came about a couple of years ago, I remember James and I, we had appeared at a convention in Colorado and had a really great weekend with everyone there. I think it was like the 4th of July weekend. So it was a big, big weekend type festivity type thing. And afterwards, James and his pal wanted to go white water rafing and they were climbing some mountains and stuff and i was going to try we were doing the we were going to do the 14ers we're going to do a load of the 14,000 feet mountains around the rockies in colorado and white water rafting and all that kind of stuff

so they were they were down to do that and i was about i don't know if you were there actually at that convention when we were there i kind of think i was because i remember i just remember in the car on the way to the airport with you guys once and you were telling me about it. Is that right? Yeah, yeah. Because we just, I remember literally about a day, the day before I flew out, I was in a pretty gnarly car accident. And in hindsight, shouldn't have gone.

But anyway, that's a different story. And I was like, after the show, I was like, well, I won't do the white water racking or anything like that, but I'll come down. It's just south of Colorado Springs. So I ended up doing the monotowing client, which was. It's just not fun. It's like literally climbing railway sleepers for... Yeah, it's one of those things.

When you do it, you're like, okay, this is great, but I don't know how people do it more than what. That was the way I perceived, you know. I look over and James is absolutely buzzing. Absolutely loving it. So, as you don't know, it's literally a... It's literally a mile up, like straight up. And it's at times it gets to like 80% gradient,

so you're pretty much scrambling up, that. At an altitude, obviously, because you're in Colorado. I remember doing that and just thinking, I don't know if that was to do with, because I got like really bugged my neck before I had like, you know, three broken ribs or something. But I was like,

I don't want to do this again. I've done that. And then after it was, Jane, I don't remember, I've booked to the hotel down the road. And we just come from, like I said, we've been in, been in Denver, so in a nice hotel, met loads of nice people. And we were literally staying in this motel

like side of the road job like $19 cash for the place to stay there overnight you know the type of place where you've got to move the closet in front of the door when you go to sleep oh yeah that type of place and I was thinking I know people think we're obviously

look the same but we're definitely different when it comes to this because this would not have been the type of place I would have I would want to stay you know to book do you remember that hotel though yeah but all the wrong reasons I don't think you remember the one in Denver the nice one in Denver. You don't really remember too much, but you remember that one. So that's the

memory. I can have memories over much better things and fear of my safety. But anyway, and then afterwards, I was like, there's got to be something in this because, and it just shows the two types of trouble you can have. You can have a high end or a low end or adventurous or relaxing or a cultural or a whatever. So we picked that idea around and eventually we landed with the guys that dashed pictures and they really dug it and then we thought well let's get someone else involved so it changed so each episode is not just us going and it's just us in a different place but if you've got a different guess and that can totally change the dynamic of where you are and what you're doing you know and yeah and then as as jane said like we've

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Free shipping and 365-day returns. Quince.com slash inside of you. You know, what's funny is I can't, like, I didn't think that was going to be the story. I didn't know that you guys kind of came up with this idea. I felt like it was something that someone had to force you. Come on, it'll be fun, it'll be this, it'll be that. And James was like, I don't know, I don't want to do this. And like, but you guys really were the ones who were spearheading this thing, right?

Yeah, it's, well, it was like, it's all Oliver's brainchild. I just happened to be in the right place at the right time to get the gig as well. well um but it was it was yeah it's one of those things where we we kind of we knew what the concept that we wanted and we were very lucky to to work with guys that had the same vision and we've met a couple of of people on the way who have kind of said the same thing that you know go and follow if if you have an idea on a project back yourself and do it and it's it's not like we put anything um you know we're not jeopardizing our livelihoods in doing it but it's generally like we believe in the project and and we're very lucky that it's gone down really well um around the

world actually i've so my gym i go to here is um so in by a load of polish guys and it's quite a i don't really fit in shall we say i'm six for three about oh i'm 188 kilos so i don't know what that is in pounds i just know that that's a lot of coke um a bit a bit a bit lean shall we say um and and the guys in there aren't they're they're very big anyway this guy waddles over to me one day and he said i was back like a shadow appeared across me as i was in there and he said um i was back in poland at the weekend visiting my family and my niece said you're going to have to see this program it's about these two english guys that travel and the show's on hbo max in in poland and then he said all of a sudden i see

you and he's at my gym my niece wouldn't believe me so I had to have a photo with this like guy his name is literally tank as well so it was it was very bizarre like I didn't think that that kind of pay even he said like it's not something that he thought he would enjoy

watching but he genuinely enjoyed it as a family show as well now be honest with me are there times when you guys and be honest where you're just like oh my God I'm so tired of him all right would you shut up I don't to hear him and you're just smiling on camera going because you're brothers and you're like you do

so much together isn't there those moments where you're like oh my god shut up james oh yeah it happens yeah i think what it would happen regardless of you travel oh yeah like you know especially when you're away like on this last season we did um you know we did the best part of like six to seven seven weeks i think it was straight um so there's times when you're kind of just like all right and I'm sure people, a lot of people on the crew do it with me as well. They're like, yeah, but, you know, for the, you kind of just, you kind of do it with anyone. I think everyone's been away with somebody related or not, and you kind of just like, okay, all right. But then you, you kind of see, I've always, always looked at like the bigger picture, the bigger goal, as it were, you know.

We're not after a, a Nolan Liam Gallagher effect on Camry, you know, where we're just like calling each other out and everything like that. so yeah so we do you do kind of you are i'd say semi-conscious of that while filming but at the same time the audience don't want to see that they want to see people enjoying themselves see hang on hang on i don't know if that's look you don't want it to become some kind of like you know norm what's his name that's that you don't know i think the trouble is that you don't want it to be to or come i did we never want it we don't want to show to ever come across as two stage tv yes yes i mean by those other programs where where there's like, oh, there's some random drama going on or something like that.

Right, but, but what's fun. But what's fun, I think, is like seeing, you know, like, you know, James says some snide remark and goes, yeah, yeah, but he goes, oh, somebody needs a nap, you know, like a little thing like that, just, you know, keep those little nuggets to give a little bit like, all right, they get annoyed with each other every once in a while. Everything's that perfect. There's a, there's a few of those nuggets in there around. They're hidden, but they're in there.

They're in there, which is, which again, he's like, it keep it, keep it natural. that we didn't want it to be. I always remember years ago when we first were looking to get the showmate and we met with this one production company and they were like, hey, wouldn't it be so funny if like you lost your luggage? No, no, it wouldn't.

But it's almost like trying to try to script it a bit and the good thing is that with the show. We're more thinking how crap would that be as a travel show because it would just be you calling one of the airlines saying, it's all right, my call's very important to them but my suitcase is currently in Miami and we're in

and you end up just looking like assholes no matter why you look like uh exactly yeah yeah you throw out yeah would you mean you've only give me $20 for me three days to get by but well it's look it's really an enjoyable show and you guys are very charming

obviously um you're in your third season what guests just name a few guests that you've had on the show so people can go back and watch those so in the first season we so we've again work as we're exact producers on it we can kind of we can have a good saying who's on and who's not as well and we want people on that you're going to get on with first and foremost because it no matter how much how much acting comes into it you can't replicate a good a good relationship with people on on camera right yeah so

we're lucky that we've got a load of our old potter mates involved and other acting friends of ours who's joined in so in the first season we had heyy joel osmond um he came to austra with us he's actually an amazing snowboarder as well wow that's what we learned that on on um and then there was bonnie right who played our sister jinny in the movie uh vana lynch um nat ten has come with us on this season i went to turkey which was pretty epic um yeah so we've had some pretty cool pretty guys guys and girls come and join us and it's you know if we do season three obviously you're going to be the highlight oh yeah oh yeah and mate what's your name from uh are Aria Stark, you had her on.

Oh, sorry, yeah, Maisie Williams as well, yeah. Did you have Matt Lewis on too already? Yeah, Matt came on season two with us, yeah. Never long, bottom. We were down, there's quite a story to that, actually. So Matt, in his wisdom,

the day before we started filming, tweeted where he was, and said, is anyone here know where I can watch the lead united match? Oh, my God. And we, and Jane and I just traveled from England. And to get to where we were, was the best part of over 30 hours, 32 hours, I think it took. It was 36 hours from door to door.

So you get, you get into this hotel lobby. And there's, there's people there. Like, wanting to say hello and everything like that. Fucking Lewis. You know, really nice. Yeah. And then we get to watch Leeds as well. Who the hell wants to watch Leeds?

Leeds gets, like, yeah, lose. But, yeah, so we're watching that. And he was just like, I'm still sorry, mate. I'm so sorry. Wait a minute, Leeds. You can't put Leeds down. Didn't you get your audition for Harry Potter in Leeds? We did.

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dark storytelling and the occasional drink to take the edge off. We're here to explore the wicked and reveal the grim. We are Wicked and Grim. Follow and listen on your favorite podcast platform. Do you remember, was it your idea or, I mean, how old were you? And whose idea was it for you guys to audition for this? We were 14 when we first auditioned and we learned about it because my mom's friend got in touch with her and just said, you know what? they're doing open auditions for the Potter movies.

Maybe Oliver and James could go along, you know. So we went, we thought, yeah, sure, why not? It's on a Thursday. So it's like, we miss school. We get possibly to be in a mate in, you know, a film and one experience. So we got to lose. So we went up to Leeds, which is about two and a half hours from where we grew up. And at this hotel, they were audited.

auditioning for every role. So it was just, like bedlam. You know, there were thousands of people there, like going for all roles. It's like, you know, kids with lipstick lightning, lightning marks on their forehead. They're really pushy show parents. You must be my daughter. You must be my daughter. And we're just there, like we turn up.

We suddenly, so you get like a raffle ticket. Obviously, when your raffle, when your numbers called, you go to the audition. And then we stood there. And after about 20 minutes or so, I didn't realize that we all realized that we were the only set of identical twins who weren't wearing the same clothes, which in hindsight you think, yeah, you need to look the same, you'd go dress the same. But this is how green we were to be the whole process. So we darted across to the department store over the road and then bought just matching shirts. First matching shirts we saw, we were just like, right, to get those and wear it in. And yeah, and then we eventually got seen

probably about three hours later or so, I'd say. That out one line, which was, it was one of Harry's lines, I forget, the exact line. And then, yeah, literally did that. And then they were like, right, okay, off you go. Thank you very much. A couple days later, we got a phone call saying, yeah, we'd love to do the side of the main studios

to the south side of London. And we fax you the side. It's even for email. How long ago is it? or email was only available to everyone so they would access the site and then yeah that happened about

three or four times after that where we were after we met Chris from the director David Heyman who produced it and a couple of the other like casting people and then we had a then we went to away on our family

vacation which was to full of Crete one of the Greek islands and for two weeks we were like okay and just before we flew out they said, oh, yeah, we really like to do the guys when they get back. And we're suddenly like, right, okay, so we know that gingers don't pan. So we were, you know, factor 100 living under an umbrella the whole time, trying to stay out of the, say, I'm getting any colour.

And then we went back, land it. And then the next day we went to our screen test, which was like on a set, like, everyone. Most people do, you know, you did a screen test in front of the tea, what the chemist is like on camera. And then, yeah, but I think it was the next day or the day after they Jan Hutchison, who was the head cast and director, called my house,

my mom answered there, and she said, hi, is that the mum of Fred and George Weasley? And then that was it. There was a world wind, probably six weeks in total, I'd say, but mad, life-changing event. I mean, did you guys even want to act

when he first started? Were you acting? No. I did want to act, but we weren't, it wasn't, none from our town did. Like, it wasn't a thing which, which you ever, I never saw it as a viable option of, of a career. And so much so the drama teacher at our school said, don't take drama for your essentially high school level, because you won't have a career in it. Wow. So I had a great delight going back to him after that summer and be like, well, you know nothing. How about this?

I actually told that story when we did one of the theme park rides being open at Universal in Florida. And I told that story. And a couple of the weeks later, I had a tweet from a kid who goes to my former school and said, this video has now been banned from being shown in class because everybody keeps playing it when said teacher was giving his advice on a situation. And they're like, well, you don't know anything like this. excellent oh my god that's it's just insane i mean when you're when you're doing this audition you're like hey the first one you're like all right all right but when you got that next call

back did you start to like every day you're obsessed with it thinking about it and they kept going and going you couldn't stop thinking about it it it was weird in my head in my head i kind of already assumed well we've got this in my head i'd at that age i'd suddenly go like yeah we've got this. And then I remember it wasn't long after the Truman show movie had come out. And I had this weird like, maybe this is just like a whole thing. And it was like, everything's

rolling too perfectly. And then, yeah, I just always assumed that we were going to be Fred and George in the film. It was a bizarre confidence that I've never had before. James, did you feel that? I found it, but to be honest, I had nothing to compare it with. It was as long as well as it felt like it felt right you can imagine i mean like it just came an actual thing where you imagine yourself in the role when you're doing the audition that's good for the audition but um yeah

with like you're saying with every other audition because there was like five or six of them in total it gets more real and it gets and you know that you must be doing something right actually further down the and i've never been more nervous in all my life than when we were in that um screen test because it's touching distance at that point. I mean, you've been there many times. So, you know, you know that it's reachable. That's what scares you when you're thinking about it. Like, you know, oh, my God, this is real.

This is real. How do I stay? I mean, and you're 14. You don't know how to keep it together. You don't know how to act cool. And I think that's probably the charm that maybe you guys had. I think so. I mean, the one thing I did remember from the screen test is,

obviously our hair is the weasley ginger that we ended up having. weren't filming and they tried they were trying a temporary hair dye and I remember they put it on and I thought this looks just like you know I've got slightly light of brown hair but this isn't going to work maybe we don't look as they thought and then so but you kind of like push that to the back of your head I suppose when doing it but it was just I remember when we got the got got the roll I can't even remember if they must have mentioned it but I can't even remember them mentioning that they were going to dye our hair I just remember just it was like an unsaid thing.

All right. Yeah, well, I remember them saying, I remember, I think it was Chris Columbus saying to us. And you guys are okay with your hair being dyed, right? I was like, you can shave my head for all I care. You know, you know what that's like, though. Yeah, I know what that's like. My God.

I mean, did you read the books or obviously you read the books after, for sure, or the book, I don't know how many books were out there. I'm not a big reader. But, you know, did you ever? were you like wait a minute in the books you guys are there throughout the books right so

yeah so the first audition happened and the fourth book had just come out and it was the first like publicized midnight launch of a book in however long because obviously the books were they got I always say they got a new generation

reading around the world which is so that's why the film was going to be a big thing and we'd read the first book so we knew the characters from the first book but then I started reading the second and the third book

over that summer and the third books I've written the Prison of Asgabern which I think is my favourite book out of the series and you know the smell that a book has right that smell

no matter what book I'm reading now reminds me of reading the Prisoner of Ascaban in the summer of 2000 when we were cast in the roles. It's just little things like that, yeah. Wow.

So, I mean, you knew like, hey, unless we get fired, we're going to be in a lot of these movies. This is, or did you kind of think you were just? We kind of knew, yeah, kind of knew they were going to do two films initially. And then, yeah, and then it kind of just rolled. And then there was always talk or maybe they'll do a third. And then they'll maybe do a fourth. And then if that goes well.

Because really, at that time, I think Potter is still, I might be wrong. I mean, obviously you got at the Marvel University, but that's a totally different genre of film type thing. I think it was the first time certainly that I can remember that you've had eight movies, which have stayed and then, if anything, grown in popularity. Normally it starts. Then maybe the second one, maybe. Yeah, they get progressively worse usually.

Yeah, so this was something that I remember where it had never happened. you know and certainly where they feel the buzz and it gets louder and louder and you it was it was always funny though because like I mean when the films would come out I would get recognized regardless like where I was I'd get recognized and then gradually it would slow down so I was like okay cool and then for some reason when the last book last film came out it's continued it's continued ever since so it's a it's an amazing thing that There's still kids to this day who weren't even born when the last film came out, yet they know every word in the film. Isn't that something?

And know everything about it. It's such a special. I mean, it's the gift that keeps on giving. You do something like that. And that is just like you can't beat that. You can't beat the Harry Potter world. I mean, to me, it's like being in the Star Wars, the original Star Wars world. something like that it's it's probably yeah it's it's at least that it's just it's remarkable and

i always thought you know i when i saw harry potter i always thought is this what england's really like is this i you know i kind of wish it was you know i guess there's some place with the cobblestone and the little buildings and things but was it kind of like when this the books came out was it sort of like the willie wanka the from the original willie wanka walker's releasing new bars he's opening up his gates you know that shit was it kind of chaotic and crazy

and the books wouldn't stay on the shelves I think it was like the world wide worldwide for the books I know that in the States it was a big thing about the Midlight launches

as well and all that kind of stuff so it was always a thing then when we when we were filming obviously and the new book would come out we'd want to know

what was going to happen with our characters so that was always a quick one of who could read it the fastest or or just get the audio book like some of us did and listen to it on the way into work and when you're waiting around so um you kind of knew what was happening with the character and what the their journey was going to be and that kind of stuff what was who was the one person you were in awe of or were you too young to really be starstruck was it was it was it was there was quite a few was it there was quite a few

I remember the main, the first person who I was suddenly like, like, wide eyed, like, wow. And that was, we were at the read-through. And we sat down and sitting next to me was Rick Mayle, who was cast to play Peaves. And unfortunately, he didn't, the character didn't make it into the films. But growing up, like, Rick Mayle was just like, to me, a comedy got in terms of acting style. very over the top, very in-your-face humour. Slapstick, you know, lots of other stuff. And he, I remember I was just like, he made a little, hello, how are you?

Nice to meet you. I'm Rick, you know. And then he went to write, he wrote in a book of mine. And he said, Oliver, the best actor, I've never lost it out, worked with. Best wishes by the time of thing. And, you know, it was just a real icebreaker. and we did the, there's a line where we have to say

honestly wouldn't be called yourself about our mother and he's supposed to get a laugh and he was exactly as I thought he would be like watching him on the TV everyone was like apart from Rick who was like

really over the top which for me was great because you've put me totally at easy that you've already got somebody champing your humor which is great what about you Jim I mean, to honest, there's, there's too many to say, because it was literally like a who's who of British acting throughout the whole season.

I bet your parents were probably more starstruck than you guys were at times. They definitely knew more of, obviously, more of the, more of the characters, more of the actors, because we knew, like, Maggie Smith, for example, we knew more from sister act. Wow. So, and she, and she would actually say that to us as well. at the time but yeah she was incredible because i always think that i learned obviously you you learn like you pick up obviously of what the what others around you especially more established actors are doing around you but i always remember how they were behaving off camera and there's a reason why all these people have been working for so long and they're so

respected because they treat everyone else with respect wow and there was no devery moments that you could see like they would they would always be there on time if they needed they'll go they'll sit they'll wait they'll go and do their thing and some of the some of the uh stories as well which michael gammon would tell he was he's one of the funniest men i've ever met and if everyone gets stuck in the elevator with anyone he's probably the person because he's got so many good stories and there was well i thought a story before but there was um on the sixth film i was an ad so i always going to work on the crew and so you asked for that you said i want to work on the set yeah and they were like you can do this right you're not going to you're going to work hard you're

going to they had you had to really i think they knew they kind of knew that um you know my work ethic was there and all that kind of stuff and i'd done a few days on different jobs with the crew before all right but i was contracted for the whole picture but i was only going to be needed for about two weeks or something out of nine months. So I said, so I just say, I swear it's my agent. And I was like, right, I'm going to ask them to do this instead of, like, getting me well-paid work. I'd rather do, I'd rather go and do this.

And so I went there and I was a key set PA. And so that's my, I actually got my credit on the film. So that's my favorite credit. Anyway, I don't know. Wow, that's cool. we were we were filming the scene when dumbledore is up the clock tower without giving too much away it's a very important part of the whole story of the of the series and in between takes michael was was outside um having a cigarette and i was just with him looking after him as it were

make sure he didn't run off and he was he said to me so what are you doing at the weekend and i said well actually oliver and myself we're reading peter and the wolf with the halley orchestra but I've never rid with an orchestra before so I'm not sure how to you know how do you speak in time with the music and all that kind of stuff and about back in an eyelid Michael's like oh I've done that before that kind of stuff

you got the script with you I was like yes so he literally sat down with me and went through well this is where the music is going to come in pencil that do this so I've literally got and he's dressed as Dumbledore telling me all this as well so he's talking me through us So I've got this absolute legend just, I mean, you'd think in full right to be preparing for the scene that he's about to shoot.

But he was all about, you know, giving me that time to do that. And it's one of those where I've never forgot that. And I always think that there's a, like I said, there's a reason why good actors work so many times. Yeah. And it's just so you look a lot at a lot of the great actors. And there's, look, there's some real assholes out there. there's some monsters you hear the stories but for the most part the big ones are usually the nice ones that have been around a while they get it they're you know uh you know they have

nothing to prove there's this sort of like let that go and it's like hey let's pay it forward and uh i mean i got to ask about alan rickman because you know he was just legendary but he seems to me from what i've gathered and talked to people he was a kind man on set but he was also you know if anyone you would fear a little bit or be nervous around some some of the guys or gals would say Rickman was a little intimidating but he wasn't a jerk or anything what did you just feel that presence like hello what is it tell me a little bit I think it's obviously he was in he a lot of the time when we were in close proximity with him obviously he was in Snape's full full get that which carries its own you know presence about it but no I mean I'm

I mean, I always remember he came back from an awards, the Oscars or somewhere, and he'd got an iPod, and it was one of the first iPod nanos, or something like that. And he was like, I've got this iPod, and we're in there and making me. He's like, how do you make this thing work? And again, like, he's like in full nape outfit. We're dressed as like Fred and George in their school outfits. And we're there putting music on his iPod. but that was the type of person he was I'd say like there wasn't a these guys are young

going to talk to them there wasn't any of that going on and there was other stuff which it's not my story to tell but I've I've seen him when we're filming really helped one of the there was a girl who was doing a um she was a yeah she was a double and she was doing a project for her school and she was looking for someone to voice it and he helped her out with that or there was something like i forget the exact um details but stuff where you were like that's class that's a that's cool that is cool um do you guys still want to do a lot of acting or like look you have families now you got you know you're taking care of people the little people and you know you're traveling and doing this show i mean do you like to be as busy as possible or do you sort of like the loles where

I could just be with the family. I could just be with the kids. Then I can go work. Or are you always looking for new things to do and always needing to keep busy? Is that important to you? For me, I don't know if you're the same. When I go away, I kind of flick a switch.

And it's like, I can't think about home because I'll say, I miss the family and I miss walking the dog and all that kind of stuff in the morning. So I kind of flick a switch and I'm just like blinkers on what I'm doing when I'm away. and I'll check in once a day with what's going on. So when I'm home, I'm home. But I do love to work. I love the, whether it's scripted stuff, whether it's the semi, like the documentary stuff or anything like that as well.

Like I really enjoy the process. So I guess I'm happy with both. I'm in a fortunate position as well where I'm not needing to go and work every day, which is a very, I know I'm very, very lucky to be in that position. So, which definitely helps. But, I mean, I'm always, and I've got a very supporting family. My wife's amazing that she's, she knows what the job entails.

Like, I was like this when she found me. And she's cool. It's very supportive. So, so, yeah, I love working, but I also love chilling out as well. So it's, I'm very lucky in that regard. always you just say the same i'd say yeah i'd say the same and it's one of those things like you're always looking to do stuff i think that's the healthy way to look at it always be open for things and and when stuff does appear if it's workable and definitely i'd rather do it

than find an excuse not to do something obviously there's some things you get and you're like that it's rubbish on the whole on the on the whole you're going to just be going for it i mean there was well there was one like where you i remember getting this this offer through it was the pay was bad script was even worse and it was like no i'm all right you know i can i can pass this one by but as jane said that's only because we're very lucky because there's a there's a great fandom from potter which has been able to help us yeah that's awesome saying that that thing you know and and pursue stuff like like the travel show like the podcast and things that we can really help help ourselves stuff but also as jane said there'll be

you know, to doing other projects, be it together or be it separately. Yeah, did I, either have you guys ever deal with any kind of anxiety or depression or were you guys pretty much even killed? Was it, you know, was it a pretty good upbringing? Was, you know, what was that like? And how did you deal with it if you did? So, yeah. So, yeah.

I mean, to me, I was really, I go. No, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm very, I'm very lucky. I'm a very, I was just thinking actually, your last question. and when I'm home, I'm still very busy. So it's not like I sit around and get bored. Like I'm always out, I'm not pretty much always outdoors, either paddleboarding or golfing or hiking or walking or cycling any, or I actually do in the London Marathon this coming weekend as we record this. I'm exhausted even hearing that. Jeez.

Have you done a marathon? No. Oh, no. We had a marathon gas station that I used to stop at. but what about like but what about like you know you say you're busy you're doing all these things it sounds like this is what you have to do it's in your blood like i have to do this and that keeps you sane i think so i think that it's because i've i've never done i was to speak to my friend about it the other day actually like i've never done therapy or anything like that and i think

it's because i don't feel like i've needed to because that that is my thing like i can i guess a form of meditation for me is I'm usually out on the water with my dog and we're just paddleboarding and it's just like that's that's it could be really rough choppy waves it could be still as a pond like it's it's I'm just happy to be in that moment and even when I'm traveling my I was taught this exercise years ago where I'll find somewhere out outdoors could be in the middle of the city it could be in the middle of a forest and I'll just sit down close my eyes and listen for five minutes to what I can hear and then you obviously the more you listen the more you can hear then you open your eyes and try and picture put pictures to the sounds

and wherever I do that I always feel like my batches are recharged and I'm good to go with whatever any anxiety I've got seems to have melted away in doing that and I pretty much do that every day I like that I'm going to start doing that is it okay if you go in your backyard right near one where my dog poops and just sit there and does it have a chair yeah no maybe it should be somewhere else away from your home no no no it well yeah it literally works every because even if you're your own garden you'll hear similar sounds or completely new ones and then it may be a new sound you'll be like what the hell's that i like that ollie yeah i mean i'd say i'd say the opposite to be honestly in terms of what i've gone through it quite quite a lot over the last

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not actually spoken about this in depth but yeah and then it gradually got more and more our daughter had been born and I was worried about the man I was going to be in terms of the father and stuff filled all that in your head like at the time you got to put it to bed And I'll be like, I'm going to be a bad dad probably. I can't do, you know what I mean? I can't provide for it maybe the way she needs to or whatever like that. And you stuck down yourself with that. Then you have other things.

It all came to a head where I was literally driving home one night from London on a motorway. And I was just like aimed at the end of the road and just like, let's go. And call it, I'm religious. So to me, it felt like God literally bitched like me and said, get the home. And I did. I literally just, I kind of remember the drive home. All I remember it going really, really dark, really quickly. But I got back and checked myself into a therapy unit the next day.

And that started to address it, which was, and it's still, and the ironic thing, it was on World Mental Health Day. That was a really ironic thing. Wow. I was like, I got, I got home and I was Googling, like, you know, I was Googling, you know, mental health. And all the topics were at world mental health thing. I thought, it's that mean. Yeah, and then, anyway, and then gradually started to sort some stuff out.

And then it's been a long process, but it's not, it's not by any means, like, it gets done. Yeah. And you can have people say all the time, oh, he's good to talk, you know, find someone, talk to someone, you know. And that's easy said to the number, but the best way I describe it is, And if anyone's listening to this, and they understand what I'm talking about, it's you're aware that many people go through it, but to you,

it feels like you're the only one of it. And it's finding that, you know, and it's finding that, it's finding that way to reach out. I mean, but even as recently as last week, I was in a really dark spot last week, you know,

through some things that have gone on. And it's how you, how you deal with it. I mean, my wife is brilliant. She's being brilliant with me. it's really supportive. And I've started

to be a, actually a psychiatrist now. So there's different, obviously different ways of treating them. I have one. You can have a counselor. You could have a therapist.

You could have a psychiatrist. And it's just different tools to deal with stuff and how to, how to affect yourself and how to, I always want to make sure that I leave the world in a much better place and I came into it. And if that's me helping people do stuff in terms of,

okay, and he always comes across a really positive outgoing guy. Yeah. And to the most time I am, but then, you know, if I'm wearing a mask, you know, to stop themselves from doing stuff and sometimes maybe that's where the the

comic comes out, shall we say. Yeah. There's nothing high to fear more, nothing high to fear or tears more than a lot. So you, you know, you do that and then you kind of have to have to live with it and there's ways of doing it. But like to say,

It was a time as recently as last week when it just didn't feel like I was, I thought if I cry now, I'm not going to stop. And it's just one of these things. You just have to, first of all, acknowledge it. I think that's the most important thing is to acknowledge it. See it not that it's a weak. See that it's not something that is,

it'll be all right, pull yourself together. And also the amount of mates who I've spoken to about it, recently or many weeks, months, a year has gone by, and they'll say, yeah, I know, mate. Or even worse, they'll face me, you could have told me, you really could have told me, and then they get really pissed, but I didn't think about mentioning it. But then it goes back to what I said is that you feel that you can't.

You feel like, well, they wouldn't want to hear it. But, I mean, like even, like last week, or sorry, yesterday, last night, I went and met with one of my oldest friends. and we've known each other for years and years I was best man at his wedding godfather to two of his kids and he's having a chat about some stuff

what he's going through and we just went to his house he lives near the countryside and we just went for a walk for about four hours and it is cold here at night at the moment but you just you know we found a time

little country pub we went in had a pint went on another walk and just put the world I wouldn't even say put the world to write we just spoke about stuff which is going on and it's really true

they say you know a problem shed is a problem a heart but then you also get the thing what he said something to me and I went hey I've done I know the exact same thing

which he said after really because sometimes who are you holding yourself I always think who you holding yourself at the level up you know we've got my daughter and i've got a saying which is be your best and she's added to them and forget the rest so it's that it's that thing right because they start being the best version of you and then worry about what other other people

are doing yeah you know uh i'm so glad you opened up about that because it's like you know all so many people listen and they you know you guys opening up or you know what helps you james and and Oliver, which I was surprised. I thought it'd be James that had the Depression. I'm just kidding. Is that because I like to, is that because I like to go outside at night with the telescope? Yeah.

No, but, you know, Ollie, to be honest with you, I've had those moments where I'm driving in the rain. And I remember while I was doing a show and I had to drive over this bridge and just thinking, I'm so tired.

I'm just not, I'm not in my run. right mind and just what am i doing here i just don't know it'd be better if i was gone i've had those thoughts i'd be better i'd be i'm a burden i'm no one understands no one knows what i've gone through no one you go with that because it just you you do feel that isolated you do feel that alone and you wonder why it's happening to you and and what happens is with me is i would be envious of my friends going out and having fun oh my gosh why can't i go out and have fun Why do I feel like this?

Why do I, gosh, I wish I was that person. They're just so, they have clarity and they have, you know, but you never know what other people are going through. No, and that's it. And it was funny when you say like the whole they have fun thing, because the thing got the thing going with me years back. And so this is to 2020, 17, I think it is. Maybe.

So it was a while ago, anyway, long time I got that. but yeah and I remember we went to I was noticing I was going to places and realizing that I wasn't having fun it was like going through the motions going through the motions exactly exactly so we were we were went to watch iAX football team playing after that and I'd always wanted to go

to see them see them play and we were sat there and we were guests of the club in the royal box we had Henry Van Dessar who is the like an amazing legendary goalkeeper in his own right but also like the director of football director of the club there, chairman of the club or whatever who presents us with sign shirts from the team we met the team

and I remember just sitting there thinking like I should be enjoying this and you like almost you don't let yourself do it and then going back to when we're in the car that came from we were coming back from playing a golf course which is like one of these super doper elite golf courses you need to know someone just to be able to play that that's the

side of the place and i was driving home thinking i don't know if i'd be able to play there again i don't know if they'd want me to play there again and you just kind of start thinking that and then other things start going through your head and to the point where i didn't want to i didn't want anyone to think that i drove off there intentionally because i was like well then they don't have to worry about you know a note or maybe i'm at fault or anything like that Because you think, well, I'm just better if I'm not around. It's crazy. It's crazy.

As I say, to me, it honestly felt like I got bitch slapped me. Like, get home. And it was the start of, yeah, just just the start of taking ownership of what you do for you. One step at a time, man. That's what it is. You have to just take that first step. Yeah, and you can go backwards. As I said, like, as recently as last week,

I went to bed for like, I don't know how long I was in there, but I didn't want to get out. And you, you work your way through it. Yeah, tell, you know, it's important. Like, now that you know those feelings, it's important to tell your wife like, hey, I'm, I'm feeling like this. There's nothing you could do, but you just be there and just know that I'm trying to, you know, or James, by the way, I'll just ask you really quickly. Did you know any of this was happening? Was it a complete shock to you when he told you? I could I could tell certain things but

it was obviously he sat my mom and dad and myself down and kind of explain what's what's going on and all that kind of stuff yeah well I guess I'm on the other side of it because I don't go through I haven't had that that dark cloud over me in in such a way I first I found it a bit I couldn't relate to it

yeah if that it yeah which which is a learning thing as well it's and obviously like i i can now i i've over myself i'm not a wrong that's wrong with puny i'm i'm uh try and put yourself in all of the situations and and and thoughts and other peoples as well if they're talking like that um because just because it never affected me and there's a lot of i guess it's like a lot of uh conditions like that it's if you've never had it it's it's hard to to to understand. Yeah, I agree with you 100%. I think it's like, you know, um, having a bad example analogy would be like, you know, I had a lot of back surgeries. I had a lot of back pain. And my friends were like, oh, sorry to hear that, man. Oh, cool. Cool. Man. You're right. Oh, good. You're feeling

better. Yeah, man. I'm fine. All right. Yeah. And then one day, one of my friends comes like crying to me. And I'm like, uh, are you all right? Like, dude, my back's been so messed up. And I just thought of all the years and all the surgeries you had. And I had no idea how debilitating this is. And people don't know until they feel it. They don't. And so all you could do is say, I love you. I'm here.

Please come to me when you need me any time. And that's it. I love you. I don't care. We'll get through this. And it doesn't matter about understanding. It's just understanding that it happens to other people and it happens to many people. And if it's not happening to you, that's, thank God.

But, you know. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I remember I was in Japan once and we were, sorry, no, we're in South Korea in Seoul. We'd done an event in Japan and a friend of mine came out and he, we went to Korea afterwards. And I told him about it. This was a couple of years afterwards. And I said to him about, you know, I was, I'm talking seconds from, from him.

crashing away, like over 130 or whatever the car was maxed at the time. And he said, it's just a very simple thing. He just said, well, I'm really glad to. And that has always... He said what? He said what? He said, I'm really glad that you didn't.

And it's just a simple thing. But yeah, it's just, you know, and sometimes they're the things that people feel really supported with more than, oh, well, you know, and the worst thing you could do is someone says to you, I'm feeling bad. The worst thing you could do is say to them,

Yeah, I've done that. Or, or, or come on, man, look at you. You're, you're in a franchise. You do these cons. People love you. You travel. You have money. You're good looking.

You're like, you're like, that's what you don't want to hear. It's like, I, here's the thing. My friend said this at his wedding. He said, um, most of my life, um, intellectually, I knew people, some people loved me. I knew that intelligently, that they love me, but I never felt it. I could never feel that. And then he met his wife. And I could relate to that because I know so-and-so loves me.

I mean, of course, I've known him forever and we've been through. They have to love me. But there's a difference between like, yeah, I know that. and feeling that and so you know that's important because sometimes we're just like you just feel so alone so anyway thank you for for talking about that that's just like and by the way you could always call me man because i've been no cheers man i didn't yeah i didn't i didn't realize it's when would you tell when do you mention it you know what i mean when do you when do you mention it like that but like so i've never i think i've ever gone into depth with it like that before so um yeah

I just want to, I'm sure when people talk about this stuff, it's the normal thing to say, but I want to echo that. It's just that if anyone's listening this right now. They will. So I remember when I did our podcast, someone said, someone dropped me a message saying that they were they were having one of the worst days of their

life and they just got a laugh out of our podcast. Thanks for helping them out. But it's me to hear that story. Just one person listens to that right now and says, I'm going to, yeah, I'm feeling a bit like that. I'm getting that way. Talk to someone. Just talk to someone, talk to a therapist, anyone, your best mate.

Start with that. Amen. Start with your parents. Start with someone. Thanks for sharing. All right, this is it. Phelps brothers, shit talking with the Phelps brothers. This is rapid fire.

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i have um switched identities with james once when i forgot my driving license and so i borrowed it james there's one which i'll tell you off camera oh okay it's not like that it's not like that I'm not like, you're sick, pervert. A little switchy switch. A little twitch. I've tend to be Oliver at a hotel so I could sign all my expenses back to his room. I can see that happening a lot.

All right, Heather Cee, what was your all-time favorite Weasley twin shenanigan over the course of all the movies? The joke shop in the sixth movie. That was my favorite, Because the set was amazing and it was all about us, which every actual ones, right? Yeah. All right.

Ray H., how do you feel about working a project together versus projects individually? We've already really talked about that, but rapid fire, are you guys going to continue working together? You're going to continue doing this series. You know, you'd like to do things individually and work together. Is that kind of like how you feel? Yeah, I'd say the second, I think definitely working together is great. it's a good thing to be able to do but also working individually is always it was always nice as your individual self to do that is both important as well you agree james

yep very much so marisol what was your least favorite scene to shoot on harry potter whether it was hard it was long it was boring uh there would be least favorite scene quidditch in the third movie because it was it was blue school green screen and they things can take a while anyway because they need to match up with all the other effects what they're going on but it was set in the rain so we were soaking wet you had a giant like fan blowing out you what made you look like you're flying so that was cold and yeah that's i still get shutters when i think about it both physically and metaphorically james uh least favorite probably would be the uh uh sixth movie when the weas

house is on fire because that was night shoots for about two weeks and it was cold and wet and all those kind of fun things which no one realizes goes on when you're filming guys this was awesome guys i hope you enjoyed it i know it's late in uh england it's like probably 10 10 p.m i know you get ready for bed it's 10 plus 10 now but it's been it's been great catching that mark yeah i love it thanks for being so open and honest and always fun and uh i hope to see you guys soon Thanks for getting so personal. I had no idea this was going to happen. And I just was so proud of the conversation that they shared with us and their feelings and life. And a lot of people don't want to open up.

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