Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - JAMIE-LYNN SIGLER: Necessary Mental Breakdowns, Joining YMH & Sopranos Memories
Episode Date: October 24, 2023Jamie-Lynn Sigler (The Sopranos, Not Today Pal) returns this week to share her cathartic breakdown and the work she’s done over the last five years to process her journey with MS. Jamie-Lynn talks a...bout her move to Austin and how Rob Iler and she were adopted into the YMH Studios family. We also talk about her love for The Sopranos, the proper way to shush somebody, and asking for help when you need it most. Thank you to our sponsors: ❤️ Betterhelp: https://betterhelp.com/inside 🟠 Discover: https://discvr.co/3Cnb1V8 🏈 PrizePicks: https://prizepicks.com/inside 😌 Nutrisense: https://nutrisense.com/inside __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou 👕 Inside Of You Merch: https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🤣 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod 🌐 Website: https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I know.
Now we can talk about it.
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It did.
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So you were pleasantly surprised.
I was.
Yeah.
I think you had a good guest for like getting into deep stuff quick.
And I think that's just his MO.
Yeah, that was great.
Yeah, it was, yeah, it's different because it's less intimate than this setting, obviously, which is your little Ben.
But it still seemed intimate.
It was nice, yeah.
Yeah, I hope you guys come to the next one.
I'm trying to get one for December.
So maybe it will do one in December.
And a few more dick jokes to.
Yeah, the dick jokes were just in the beginning.
Well, that's part of the live setting.
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It's beautiful.
And it's exactly what this podcast is and is about.
I loved having her on here.
She talks about her struggles.
She talks about her, she's human and she had a breakdown.
She talks about life.
I adore her and just think I was this close to maybe going on a date with her 20 years ago.
It just didn't work out.
She chose a football player, an NFL football player over me, which I understand.
Mark Sanchez.
Mark Sanchez.
Now I don't understand it.
No, but she's amazing and we goof.
We're good pals, and I adore her.
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You do, your skin looks flawless
Thanks.
You're in great shape.
Thanks.
You have a killer car.
It's a Turro.
You know a Turro?
A John Tutro?
No, it's like a rental car
service where you can they'll they'll literally meet you at the airport and just do the exchange and
give you the keys and you can take it for as many days as you want and it's not that expensive right
how do you return it they meet you wherever either at the airport or you leave it with the key on the
tire somewhere and they'll pick it up is it designed just for airport thing no i've i had one in
albuquerque once and they just told me a corner of the street that it would be on and i took an uber
there and the key was on the tire are you doing a spot an ad right now uh read for them i wish
I wish I was. Why don't you ask them to be a sponsor? Why don't you ask? This isn't my show.
Well, I mean, I could reach out. Yeah. That's a T-R-O. That's not mine. It's a T-U-R-O. It's somebody else's car. T-U-R-O. The car is called a
T-U-R-O. The app is called Turo. The company. Guys, I'm not very bright today. I didn't get a lot of sleep. That's always my excuse. Do you sleep well? You do? Why?
I need it. I need my sleep to function. I don't do anything also. I have kids. I'm tired by that time, that bedtime rolls around. Maybe I'm just like, I have a clear conscience.
Yeah, maybe, you know, maybe you're just okay with everything. Maybe your stress levels have gone,
down exponentially. Do you think that's the case? I mean, it varies. Life, life goes, you know,
in cycles and seasons. But for the most part, I've done a lot of work. Like, over the last
five years in particular, I think, like a lot of work on myself. And I think that you get to this
point where you start to see it paying off. And it's nice. It's not, not to say that I'm without
troubles and hardships and in fact, just two weeks ago I had a mini breakdown with my
girlfriends. But like, what was that like? What was that like? Where was it? Beautiful. Where did
happen? Um, it was, it was a, it was a intentional meeting per se of, of,
of friends of like we're going to get together and kind of, you know, work through our shit
and be there for each other in a moment, like kind of, you know, just with a lot of intention
and love and, um, but without any expectation of kind of what it's going to be. And, uh,
it turned out being a moment where I really realized that I needed to have a mental breakdown.
I had been holding in and holding things together for so long. And, you know,
So I have MS, and I've had it for 23 years almost.
And for much of my journey, I've been applauded and celebrated for how strong I am with it.
And I appreciate that.
And I can also appreciate it about myself, like how I've dealt with it.
But I also think it's been to a fault sometimes because a lot of my being strong was just kind of not expressing how hard it is sometimes and being like,
I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm okay. No, it's fine. It's fine. And it was a moment of like it bubbling over and just I needed to kind of say all the things that I was afraid to say, which is this sucks and I'm angry and I'm upset and I'm sad and this feels unfair. And I don't know what I did to deserve this. And I'm really bummed. And it was a beautiful release. And if anything, it almost like,
open Pandora's box a little bit that for like the next week and a half I was just a lot of
things were just coming out and up and out and I just tried to breathe through and welcome them
but also it was a moment of me I always knew my friends were there for me and I had this
incredible support system but like a moment of like when you look around like some of your
closest girlfriends and them like begging you to give them your shit
it was a moment of like me really understanding how incredibly supported I am and that like if I fall
apart there's like a lot of people there that yeah but but even so when you're going through a hard time
your friends all of our friends if we're lucky enough will say hey whatever you need I'm here how
are you what can I do what can I do and I I'm never one to really ask for help or for and so but
there comes a time when we all hit a wall and I've had those moments like you talk about and then
you kind of just go I fucking need help and people are like oh hang on a second you know that's a little
jarring for people so your friends who are always like yeah whatever you need whatever you need and
you're like strong one day you're just like I'm not fucking strong I'm not strong right now I'm not
strong and that's why I need you and this is why I'm having this breakdown so it's like you just
never know I mean it's it's scary being vulnerable it's scary
being like asking for but it's also beautiful that's why we're here people love to be of service
and help for people they love for people that they love not for people they don't right you know well
yeah well then that's when it can be exhausting but it's a beautiful human exchange it's if not one of
the greatest ones i mean it's it's just it's but like you said it's really hard to ask for help
you just assume everybody's got their own shit who wants my shit on top of it but it was a
moment of me realizing, like, giving me an hour of time to just share is not a burden on
anyone. You know what I mean? It's a moment that changed my life in that moment. It really did.
And this was how long ago? Two weeks ago? A week ago? A week and a half ago?
And you have your friend here, introduce your friend. Yeah, it's my friend, Becca Tovin,
one of my best friends. And one of the beautiful women that was there receiving me and being there for me.
Yeah, we don't have a microphone on her. But, um...
We wish we did. She's a great advice giver.
You are, huh?
But she has a podcast called The Lady Gang.
And if you want to hear some of that advice is right thing. Oh, yeah.
All right. I'll check out the Lady Gang. We should all check out the Lady Gang.
That's right. You already said she has a big following, right?
Huge.
Really? Huge.
What does it mean? It means, all right. I mean, hey, you're doing something right. I'd like to know what that is.
She's a great giver of advice. She really is. And a great listener.
When you say mental breakdown, I think, I think yelling and screaming and emotional and I can't fucking, no, I can't, you know, like just to the point where everyone's just like, oh, we should, you know, restrain her or something.
That's exactly what it was. And I've never had one in my life. I, in that, I realized that. Like, even as a child, like, I expressing those emotions.
my parents were never able to receive that.
They were not in a place in their lives to allow me to do that.
So I was always the good girl.
I was always told to, you know, put on your lipstick and say everything's fine.
So that was the first time that I've really, I mean, I think I've had like little eruptions here and there.
But to that extent, never.
And you've never done this in front of your husband.
I mean, he's probably seen me tantrum for a moment.
But he hasn't seen you over the edge.
No.
And it was actually to a point where it was bubbling over in our relationship because he has a lot of anger for what I deal with because he has a front row seat every day.
And I'm not a complainer.
I don't say anything.
But he sees me grit my teeth and he sees me push through.
And on one hand, he's proud of me, but another hand, he hates it.
Does he get emotional about it at all?
I'm not emotional, but I think it manifests in ways for him.
Like, it makes his anxiety worse.
I think it makes him more short-tempered with our kids.
Yeah.
I think that it manifests in other ways.
He never means to direct it at me and never really does.
does. But I think that a lot of my bubbling over was also like feeling him where, you know,
it is, it is a factor in our relationship. Like, we had to talk just the other night where I think
this moment a week and a half ago we keep talking about really help where he was, he was angry
about something and I was angry about something. And it felt like we were taking it out on each other.
And I literally just said to him, I'm not angry at you. I'm just angry at this situation.
right now and he was like oh yeah me too and it was like oh and then we cuddled and watch breaking
bad you know but it was like it was that that release allowed us to kind of place our feelings
a little bit better because when before that it was hard to understand what was about what does that make
sense yeah i also think that there's probably like i'm speaking out of place here but i think if i had
you know, MS or something.
And I've had a lot of surgeries and things, but that's not MS.
But still, I deal with pain and stuff.
But what I'm saying, it's not that.
I'm just thinking like if you have something like that and you're dealing with it all
the time, do you sort of think I don't want them to like not be here or run away or scare
people off or I just wanted to try to do everything myself, which is not a good thing,
like not giving help you know not asking for help right not in just saying no i got this i'm tough
yeah i want to show you that i got this where as you should ask for help when needed but you know
what i mean does that make sense at all yeah i think it's actually more it's been an evolution
for me over like of the emotional journey and like experience with this far exceeds the physical
one with MS.
But I think it's like I'm now at this point where I'm still processing a lot of like shame
I have around it and like embarrassment.
Of what?
Of how it's affected me.
Like I hit it for so long and then I don't like using the wheelchair in the airport.
I like put my hat down all the way.
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You don't want people to see you.
No.
If I hurt my knee skiing and I'd have no problem using the wheelchair because I'm like,
I'm hurt and I need this for support.
I don't know why I still have, like, this issue with that, this, like, shame issue.
Like, I only just started bringing a walking stick and a cane out with me every once in a while.
I should probably bring it out all the time because it helps me greatly.
And I don't, it, it happens the energy I need to use mental energy to balance and navigate life.
But, like, it's not really about anyone else.
It's, like, about me.
I feel like I've been like fighting this and trying to beat it and stay on top of it
and to feel like, fuck, I need a cane sometimes.
It feels like I failed a little bit.
And I also am just like, with this business, I'm like worried that people aren't going to want to hire me because I did that.
I walked this way and I used this cane.
But I will say, I had this job the past two years.
They had cast me for just like three or four episode arc.
and we didn't, my character didn't have MS in it, so they worked around it.
In fact, they built this rig.
My character was supposed to run from somebody in the woods, and they built this rig where
I was sitting on it.
You just see my upper body moving, and they just had the camera there, so it looked like I was running.
Did it work?
It worked.
It was really cool.
Wow.
But then they made me irregular.
And it was the first moment for me to be like, oh, like, maybe this doesn't matter.
people still want me oh I'm like I still have talent it was getting so blurry and so messy
and so heartbreaking for a while um and so what that job did was a make me fall in love with
acting again because they were I when I would show up to work the first AD had a conversation
with the director before I got there each episode where they were like this is what you can do
this is what you can't it's better if you block it this way so like
Like I didn't have to have this awkward conversation every time.
And it was so beautiful and so supportive.
But what it did was now put me in this place where I'm like,
I don't want to hide it in my next job.
I would love to just move how I move and have it be part of it.
Because maybe it'll add something to the story.
It doesn't have to be about it.
My whole life is not about MS.
Why can't she be a normal person who happens to have MS who is convicted of murder?
That's right.
That's right.
People with MS can be assholes too.
Oh, you can murder.
That's right.
I actually would love to play a really complicated, like not nice person.
Well, yeah, why not?
Never done that.
Actually, no, I did in Big Sky.
But yeah, I think that in the past couple of years, I'm like...
Letting it go.
Accepting.
Yeah, because, you know, the shame thing could be twofold.
It could also be part of you going, hey, I just really.
don't want to be recognized right now, which is, you know, in general, people wear a hat or
they're just kind of like, you know, sometimes I'm at the airport and not that I get mob, but
sometimes I'm just like tired. I just wear our hat and sunglasses and just not, and just disappear.
So that's like, you know, I'm having me a tough time. I, you know, I'm in a wheelchair. I'm tired.
I don't want to, I just don't want to fucking deal with it. Yeah. So, you know, maybe it's not all
shame. Like, you know, I can't do these things. And but, you know, it's not even about being
famous.
No, no.
It's like, I don't know.
I'm just being honest.
You know, it's because I, in my meeting other people that live with MS and chronic
illness.
And you know what, in general, I just feel like the more that I am being more honest with
myself about my feelings and talking about these things, like sometimes you think the more
specific you get the more like distant it's going to be than people aren't going to
understand but I'm finding like the more specific I get the more universal it actually is and
like everybody's everybody's got something I live with my shame and my shit out you see it and I
that's where I'm grateful for it because it's really opened me up it I can't hide from it
people ask me about it and then we have to have I had the most beautiful exchange with a TSA guy
the other day.
Really?
Yeah, where I was getting the wheelchair through security, and he was like, Meadow.
And I'm like, yeah, and he's like, what's going on?
And I'm like, oh, I have MS.
This, you know, makes my life easier through the airport, this and that.
And we just started talking.
And he said to me, he's like, you know, I really appreciate you opening up to me right now.
He's like having nothing to do with what you've done and what you do.
Like, you're a really beautiful person.
And I just started crying.
I'm like, thank you for.
seeing me, but without this, I don't know if we would have had that conversation. Do you know what I
mean? Yeah. I feel like it's cracked me open. I see what you're saying. In a way. And I think
I try not to find like a spiritual meaning and everything in life because I think sometimes that can
like make it overwhelming, life overwhelming. Sometimes things just happen. But I do think that
bigger things happen in our lives is catalyst for us to really grow. And I think that that
that maybe there would have been something else,
but without MS in my life, I don't,
I don't know where I'd be.
Wow.
I would like a life without it, though.
Sure.
I would at this point.
Do you talk to, well, first of all,
do you have any friends or family
who just get really emotional all the time
when you're around?
My mom.
No matter what, if you're having trouble walking,
she loses it.
She's hysterical.
And what do you say, mom?
What do you say?
It's okay.
it's okay do you ever cry with her sometimes sometimes i try not to i try not to yeah yeah it's
mainly with her what about with other people who are dealing with ms yeah are you an advocate like
are you talking to people or are you christina applegate's a really good friend of mine yeah i was
just with her this morning she you know we have this like beautiful exchange we talk about where
she feels like I'm like her light but I also have have experience but she also gives me permission
to be like this fucking sucks because she's not afraid to say that and I was she diagnosed a couple
years ago right and she has she had it for a while or is it something that she's only had it for
I'm not sure I think it just it like there were symptoms that were coming on and you know she she
figured out fairly quickly from what I understand yeah and she's sort of like hey what what's
going to happen what happens first what's the initial like does she ask you a lot of questions
we did yeah we had an initial conversation but like i'm not in i live with it i'm not an expert it affects
all of us very differently but i think what it helps is just to have somebody that understands and
gets it yeah but if somebody had covid and i had and i go hey what happens when you got covid what what
what can i expect well some people you know i'd be always like yeah i'd be you know racking your brain
and and all that stuff but yeah we've had those conversations for sure yeah for sure
but we also have we also talk about bravo a lot because we both like to watch bravo
what do you watch on bravo most of the housewives most of the houses like the winter house
the summer house i don't know anything about that all i know is i saw something with you just
recently how they said gandle james gandlefini had sex with a housewife what the hell was that yeah
this housewife on jersey like do you believe her sure i mean it was like it was a hundred years
ago. You know, they were in their 20s or 20. And she wasn't a housewife then. No. Housewives didn't
exist back then. That's what I'm saying. She wasn't even a wife probably. Simpler times. Yeah.
Simpler times. So how did you respond? You're like, okay. I mean, I don't know. I think it's
disrespectful when somebody's no longer living and like to their wife. Like, yeah, I felt protective. I
didn't like it. Yeah. You're like, shut up. Yeah. Shut up, Jen Sheffler. Is that who it was?
Is he that her name. Jen Sheffler Housewives of what? Jersey. Jersey. Jersey House.
What housewives is the best?
Because you got Orange County, you got New Jersey.
My personal favorite.
You have Vegas girls in there?
No, there's no Vegas housewives.
No Vegas.
My personal favorite is the OG New York.
Original gangster.
The OG New York, because those were the Upper East Side rich bitches that are
kooky and wild, and they were actually friends.
Like, they actually knew each other.
It wasn't an assembled cast of women that you kind of put together.
That, if I had to pick my favorite, would be like, I'm even going back to like, this means nothing to you.
But like Alex and Simon and, you know, like Ramona, Sonia, Jill, Bethany.
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What about the one that was married to Kelsey Grammer?
Camille.
Camille.
Look, those were the hey days of Beverly Hills, too.
Those were great.
Those were great times.
Is there like a lot of sex in those shows?
Sometimes.
They show sex.
Well, not sex.
Sometimes there's like a sexy couple within like the cast, like a couple that just like, it just likes to talk about their sex life a lot.
And they're just doing it all the time.
There's another couple right now in New York that talks about how they haven't had sex in a year and a half since they had their babies.
Oh my God.
Year and a half, no sex?
It's a long time.
Let me ask you this.
Is this true?
I heard somewhere that if a man watches his wife give birth and he's staring at the vaguely vagina, thank you.
you. Yeah. That if he watches it, some men will, like, be turned off forever. Be turned off
forever. Is that true? My husband stared at a corner, like, of the room, hyperventilated.
What about your husband? I had a surrogate because I was worried about it. I'm just kidding.
But I could see, yeah, I could see Cutter being, Cutter did not want to look. Oh, yeah.
At all. Yeah, good for Cutter. I mean, that's his prerogative. I had my friend Stephanie there, like, putting her hand in my vagina, touching his head as he's crowning.
come again yeah she put her head she said do you remember the doctor asked me do you want to reach
down and touch his head and i said no but my friend step he was like well oh yeah crowning
reach out in touch a baby's head yeah i'm done having babies but i would have given you that
opportunity if you wanted michael my births were parties wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait
a minute did you what opportunity to touch a head at the crowning is that something you'd be
interested in? I don't even know how the hell that would happen. That's you can YouTube it.
Really? I don't know. I mean, if, you know, if I was with someone and they wanted me to be there,
I would be there. But I don't think I need to see it. I'd be looking her eyes and breathe with her.
And I love you. I'm here for you. I don't care if you fart or whatever. Things happen.
Look, she's probably shitting on the table. Probably. We're a mask. And, uh, and then it happens. And I'll look
And I go, oh, there's the kid.
Oh, yeah.
Look, that's our baby that probably came out of your vagina.
I didn't see it, but I assume it happened.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's probably the move.
Yeah, so Cutter didn't do it.
No.
No.
You're probably glad.
For sure.
He didn't need to be there.
I mean, it's nice if a guy could do it.
I mean, some women would be out there going, how could, that's a beautiful thing.
No.
No.
I'm not pressuring him into doing that.
No.
No.
All right.
So you're watching Bravo.
I feel like for better.
or worse, like very disconnected from this business now.
Really?
I do.
I do.
Does Cutter like that?
Sometimes I'm like, is this bad?
Like I like, I forget that I'm like an actress sometimes.
Do your agents check in with you?
Yes.
Do they say, hey, we're looking into some stuff.
There might be this.
Are you still?
I also think that I used to stress so much about my career.
I used to stress so much and put so much value on myself.
and if I had work or not.
And I really don't anymore.
I really don't.
It's, I love it still.
I know I still want to do it,
but it's really,
it's not that it's less valuable to me or important,
but it's just not everything anymore.
I don't know if it's just getting into my 40s or what it is,
but there was just a big shift for me about it.
I don't feel like I have anything to prove,
you don't i but no one does you know what that's the thing everyone look if you're doing this
if you're in in something because you want to prove yourself and you want to you want daddy to be
happy and you want all these then it's you're not doing it for the right reasons you have to at
some point go hey who am i doing this for and if you're not doing it for yourself who you're doing it
yeah did we talk about this last time i'm here where like i kind of quit for a little while and
then i went into it i mean with exception of the little things here and there but like yeah
It just, it didn't appeal to me.
It was just, but now I'm getting, you know, the flow a little bit in terms of, like, the juice is flown.
But I don't know yet.
It has to be the right thing.
Can we manifest a job together?
We would have so much fun.
Oh, my God.
We would have so much fun.
Yeah.
There's something about you.
Like, whenever I'm with you, you bring out, like, you know, there's just people that bring out, like, sides of you.
You bring out a very playful side of me.
I do.
You do.
Probably because we.
doing game nights together. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. And you know how to crush on you. I know.
You made it clear. Cutter won't listen to this, really. Cutter, it was a long time ago.
It was fine. It was many of you have children now. You didn't look. You were, you were adorable in the way you would hit on me.
Yeah. Yeah. I was never like put off by it. No, I was all playful. And then one time I was just like, hey, we should maybe hang out sometime if you're, I think I was dating somebody by the time you were wearing a guy named Mark Sanchez.
Because I, the Jets guy, he just gave a look like, what?
No, but like, I remember just going, you know, hey, you know, it would be nice to hang out.
She's like, well, I'm sort of dating somebody right now.
Oh, shit.
And then somebody told me, like, what the hell?
I can't top a fucking NFL football player.
Well, I mean, he's just, you know, you just had bad timing.
It was bad timing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We would have helped each other with our disabilities.
My mental disabilities.
That's right.
You know, let me ask you this.
What do you do now?
Because with the podcast, you have another podcast.
Yeah.
So what happens to the other podcast?
You know, not today, pal is your new one.
Yeah.
So we had pajama pants before.
And so Tom Segura and Christina Pee were fans of pajama pants, which was like so weird.
We had like 10,000 listeners a week.
We were like this tiny little podcast, but this like small and mighty.
We called them our panties.
And like we had so much fun doing that podcast.
because we were just idiots and we, and it, you know, me, Rob and our other co-s,
Kastom G are all so different and, but so much love for each other. And it was silly and fun,
but, you know, we weren't making a ton of money from it. And then when I moved to Austin and
then Rob moved to Austin and then Kass was still in L.A. Like, you know, over Zoom, like you said,
like it's hard to get a good. It takes forever.
Yeah.
And I was going to quit so many times.
Yeah.
And, you know, and just things kind of clicked here and there.
And not that it's like Becca's podcast.
Right.
You know, we have a lot of people out there who are just really loyal and love the podcast and help the podcast and spread the word.
You're a great interview.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, I'm just like, I've learned.
I've gotten better because I think in the beginning, like some of my friends would be interviewed in like Swartz and or Bobby Lee.
and they'd go, don't interrupt me, you're interrupting me.
I'd keep it in there.
I go, sorry, I don't know what I'm doing.
Sorry, I just was like, so you learn that.
You learn to listen a little more.
I don't get as nervous anymore.
I figure, you know, we're going to have a good conversation.
We're going to, you know, figure it out.
Yeah, we just sat down.
We didn't even, you didn't even say, let's go.
We were just talking.
No, we've been talking for a half an hour.
Holy shit.
Yeah, we don't even have that long to go.
Wow.
Isn't that great?
No, but bummer, Rebecca's like, get.
me out of here um so so so anyway so when that when pj pants was kind of like you know this is
just not doing anything for anyone and it's just the chemistry is not what it was when we were
all together in a room tom and christina were then expanding their ymh studios network um their
podcast network and wanted to bring rob on and then rob was like well i want jamie to do the show
with me. So that's where Not Today Pal came from. And it's, you know, Rob and I have a very
unique experience like that we share together, which bonds us very deeply, but like has nothing
to do with our relationship today. And so Not Today Pal is about, you know, him usually just
making me very uncomfortable and me reacting to it. Like what does he make you uncomfortable about?
What do you get uncomfortable with? I actually don't get uncomfortable. I'm a good sport. I think, you know,
he just likes to they make fun of me um yeah they make fun of me a lot what do they make funny you
about cutter takes pictures of me meditating and sends it to him oh and then they make fun of me um
he likes to show me pictures of me and ex boyfriends and talk about it like yeah who's some of
your other ex-boyfriends well he likes to talk my ex-husband a lot which i don't well that's it was an agent
right he was my manager he was your manager yeah can we not talk about him he
it's too much air time. You brought it up. I did. Now we're doing. Yeah, I don't want to talk about.
I don't even remember his name. Don't even say it. Yeah. Does it start that A, his last name?
Mm-mm. First name. Okay, so I was right. I mean, it starts with an A. Yeah. So, so does the word
asshole. That's right. That's right. A lot of things start with A. Yeah, that's for sure.
A lot of things do. Do you miss, what do you miss about, like, if you had to just describe it in, like, one sentence? What is the one thing you were? I wish. I say it to Rob,
all the time. I wish we could just do one week of filming right now. Right now. Right because of just
like my awareness of like the world and what that was and what we were a part of and like who I
just wish I could experience it like one episode. Give me one episode right now. Like just drop me back
in for what would the episode be about? Good question. Um, the family.
some sort of internal struggle with the family. So a family heavy one. I always loved moments
when Meadow and Tony got quiet together. And it was all our scenes when we would get quiet
together. The dialogue would actually be really limited. It would just be these like heavy like
pregnant pauses. And he, Jim was the type of scene partner where it felt like he,
was there and his only intention was to make me as good as I could be.
Wow.
And it had nothing to do with him.
Every time I work with him, I felt like his sole purpose was, I'm going to help you give
your best fucking take, Jamie.
Yeah.
Did you feel the same way?
Like, Jim, I'm going to make you as good as you can be.
Definitely didn't feel that way.
But I more was like just watching a really amazing artist.
That's when you know you have it, when you're so confident.
and yourself as a performer
that you just want to make
the other person. It had nothing to do with his confidence
because he was actually not.
He wasn't. He was insecure?
Oh my God, yes.
What do you do? I'm not doing another take.
Fucking, what the fuck am I? What's the fucking line?
No, he would question himself.
Like, there would be moments where he'd be like,
I fucking suck.
But I appreciated that because
I've had those thoughts, but I didn't say him out loud
because I don't want anybody to know that I think I suck.
He was confident enough to be.
say it out loud.
Oh, I would, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
So yes, I guess there was a confidence there, but it was, I think it came more from him
deeply caring, deeply, deeply caring.
He was an exceptional human being.
I've had that while I'm working, like, I'm starting a scene.
And I just am like, God, please cut, please cut.
I want to say cut right now.
I'm not going to because I can't.
Yeah, yeah.
But this sucks.
It's just not working.
And I'm not into it.
And I, well, you better get into it because you got another three minute scene here going.
So, okay, fuck it.
And then you just turn it on.
And then there's like, well,
We can use the last half of that.
I'm like, that's what I thought.
Burn the first half.
Burn the fucking first half.
Well, I think that's why I'm like, would love to work with you
because I think that in TV, it's so fast-paced now
that it's so hard to like, unless you're in a show for a couple of years
to like get in a rhythm with people and feel so safe with them to be able to play like that.
Like you and I have a chemistry and a rapport and a relationship.
where like if I work with you, I would feel so safe to do that. And I just, when you're guest starring or even like pilots and this, it's so fast. It's so hard to be able to find that. Just to jump into something. And you don't really know someone and it's a little intimidating. It's just to get the nerves. You got this whole thing. But when you connect with someone that you just look at and they're like, hey, let's do this. And they're just cool. They want to run it. They want to play with you. They want to do this. You know, and just.
You know, I've had, I've had some of those relationships where they could say or I could say
because we were close enough where I'd look at them.
I go, yeah.
Love it.
You know, I just love it.
Love it.
And then Tom would do the same with me or whatever, but you have to be having it.
If you don't know the person, you go, do that again.
They're like, what the fuck, fuck you tell me?
But if you know the person, you're like, hey, man, you know, because we're in the moments and
stuff.
And if you see me and you're like, hey, you know, just fucking just don't throw me.
I like curb balls.
I like people playing with me.
Let me say that line again.
Take it back.
Just take it back to your line real quick.
And then I'm going to say three in a row like that.
What the fuck are you doing?
What the fuck are you doing?
Love it.
And you know what I mean?
And you know, and it's not some people like, no, no,
I want to just go right through the, you know.
Yes.
It's just getting the moments, getting the moments and not, and just trusting.
That's nice.
It's nice to have a partner like that because you don't always get that.
No, no.
Everyone wants to prove themselves.
I'm a great actor.
I'm like, hey, I just, I don't care how great you think you are.
I want to get a great performance so it's on that camera and it could last a lifetime.
And you really like, look, you can't always care that much, but, right, right.
You try sometimes.
But.
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I'm done.
Go ahead.
Deep.
That was rolling.
I'm aware.
Uh, I forgot what I was going to say.
Oh, like, you know, you can't always care about the story you're, at least I haven't always, like, cared about the story that I'm telling.
And sometimes when you're in it, you don't think about the story that you're telling.
But I would like, I think the dream, right, is to get to a point where you're, you feel passionate about the stories you're telling.
Yeah.
I could see you directing.
Really?
Yeah.
Why couldn't you direct?
I don't know.
Are you, do you, do you know how to read?
It feels like a lot of responsibility.
No, no, no, no, no.
Here's the thing.
I don't want to care about all the people.
But look, if you're directing TV or something, or if you want to direct a movie, I mean,
I think people nowadays, it's just, it's about the angles and it's about this, and it's all
about the story.
If you have a great story, it really directs itself.
So, you know, you have a crew that, I just see you talking, people respecting you, and, you know,
being able to talk to actors.
and I just think you'd have fun.
Hey, maybe one day.
My kids are young.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because it is exhausting.
There's nothing more, I mean, fuck.
I loved popping in and out of Albuquerque doing my scenes and then going back home to Austin.
Like, that was.
So you want to work a couple days a week and then, you know, be with your family or just, you know, watch Bravo.
Yep.
That's what you want to do.
Unless, unless I'm feeling like I am, like, like, vibrating from, like, you know,
the work that I'm doing, like if it feels like I'm growing and I'm getting better and I'm
challenging myself and this feels amazing, which it does even when you work two to three time
days of episode for sure. But it's been a minute since I've had that like that feeling.
Yeah, that feeling's hard to get. You've lost that loving feeling. I haven't lost it. I long for
it. You long for it. I don't come again. It'll come again.
It'll come again.
What do you talk about on the podcast?
Is it really just everything like you're saying?
I mean, can you get personal?
Oh, yeah.
Do you cry?
Not on not today, pal.
You don't cry.
We don't cry.
There's no crying.
No.
No, it's a life.
It's very playful.
It gets people into their day.
Oh, it's only 30 minutes.
It's 30 minutes.
And where can they find this?
Spotify.
Yeah.
Anywhere you get a podcast.
Shopify.
Wherever the kids are doing all those things.
Yeah, wherever you find podcasts.
That's great.
Let me ask you,
a really personal question great not like there hasn't been personal questions today now is that
personal but like me i would like every time i have something wrong with me or it's this or a bulging
disc or this or i look online and i go down rabbit holes and it's not good that's why i go to zocdoc
dot com you know real doctors no but i i i will sometimes do that so
if you know if i had a god forbid a tumor or something i would go what what's how long can you live
with a tumor how long can you live with the tumor if it's in your neck how long can you know what i
mean i'll just go down these things is ms something that people can live long lives because i
remember my friend his mom had ms when i was young and she had it for like 40 or 50 like 50 years
Yeah. When I was diagnosed, and I don't know if every neurologist would say the same, but I'm very appreciative that the man that diagnosed me said there's no reason to think that you can't live a very healthy and long life. Like this isn't a death sentence. You know, modern medicine has come a long way in ways of supporting and slowing down the progression of the disease. And it's, you know, it's still very individual. It's still.
I have good days and bad days in that, like, I can still do all of the same things,
which is why I'm very confident working.
Like, I don't feel like I'm going to wake up one day and be like, guys, I can't really walk.
It's not that.
It's how I feel internally is my good days or bad days, which, look, we all have that.
I can push through, and some days I don't have to push through as much.
I think where I get the most sad sometimes is, like, man, this could be forever.
for the rest of my life that I have to live with this.
That's where I can get a little sad.
Like it's going to be a little hard forever, probably.
Yeah, but I mean, with technology and the way things are moving, who knows?
I mean, why couldn't they, weren't they able to reverse it?
I mean, I'm surprised they haven't been able to do that yet in Alzheimer's and all these things
are such tragic.
It's like, we're waiting.
We're waiting for that, you know.
and when it had it could i think it will happen i do too i really do i do too and um i do too it'd be
magical i do too i think you have to always have hope and it's not false hope because it's it's not
like we're in the fucking 1700s and you don't know what the hell's going on so i have a lot of hope
but i think that i have learned that it's better to not think about that too much because it can
take me so far away from what it is now it's the more accepting i am getting in the now
the less pressure i feel about it yeah you don't want it to consume you you're like hey i can't
well they always say you know if you can't control something if you can't change something
shelve it if you can't change or control something shelve it because it's not it's not
it's not their responsibility i can't when that time comes right i do the best i can to take
care of myself the best way possible i i you look like honestly great i was just going to like
your arms your legs look like muscular and i've i work out i try you don't look 42 i swear to god
if i had a gun to my head well what does 42 look like well i can show you people that are 42 and
you know i look i appreciate what you're saying thank you i think you honestly if i had the guess
like oh she's probably 33 well because you're what do you have ivy and skin cream
What is that?
What skin cream?
Evian?
What is it called?
Evian?
Is that water?
I think I've used...
It's water.
Sorry.
I don't know what skin cream I have on.
It's just some moisturizer.
I don't have makeup on, though.
I'm not a makeup gal.
You don't have makeup.
I'm not a makeup gal.
Becca!
Do you have makeup?
No.
I have more on than she does.
I have some concealer.
She has nothing.
Do you have nothing?
Never.
I'm not a makeup person.
But like,
That's because of your genetics.
Oh, no.
You have, like, Jew in you?
I'm a Jew.
And you have something else.
Cuban.
Cuban.
You know?
Greek.
There you go.
Little Ashkenazi in there.
Well, we all have Ashkenazi.
Yeah, we're all a little Ashkenazi.
Oh, little Ashkenazis.
I could talk to you forever about this, about everything.
About being Ashkenazi.
About being Ashkenazi.
Is Cutter is the opposite of Jew.
He's not a Jew.
Hutter is not a Jew, not a Jew, though he acts like a Jew.
He is Larry David.
My husband-
I thought you're going to say something that might insult the Jewish race, but he didn't.
I would never.
My husband is Larry David.
Like, for instance, like him and Rob Eiler are very close, which I love.
They have their own separate relationship.
He sent Rob a picture the other day of him with splattered shorts, and it just said, done
with urinals, bro.
Because, like, that's him.
Like, or he'll just walk in a room and be like,
she'll eat that burrito and then just like walk out.
I do that.
Yeah.
That's why I love you.
See?
Yeah, I do that shit.
Or he'll just, like, walk in and be like, other kids will be doing it.
And he'll be like, it never ends.
And then just keep walking.
Never ends.
That's his famous quote.
There is anything going to go on his tombstone.
It's that.
Did you ever see the, uh, did you ever see the, uh, curb your enthusiastic, uh, curb your
enthusiasm episode with the effeminate 10-year-old kid who goes up to Larry and goes,
what are you looking at, Larry?
And Larry goes, oh, I'm looking at these things about this writing about Hitler.
He goes, what's a Hitler?
And he goes, well, he was a very bad man, you know, he did a lot of bad things.
Oh, what's that?
Oh, that right there, that's a swastika.
And he goes, ooh, I like it.
He goes, you like, you like the swastika?
He goes, yeah, it goes this way and that way and this way and this way.
Yeah, can I get one for Christmas?
He goes, yeah, I don't think the Jews would appreciate that.
He goes, get a life, Jews.
It's so ridiculous.
It's so funny that my uncles and everybody were all Jews.
We all laugh at it because it's like the kid doesn't get it.
No.
What's a Hitler?
What's a Swastika?
I don't know what that is.
I like it, though.
It's cool.
It was just really funny.
Can we air that or we get in trouble?
Of course not.
I'm not offended.
I'm not offended.
Are you offended?
No, but I'm a Jew.
Yeah.
But I'm a Jew.
What does offend you?
What do you find offensive?
Being unnecessarily rude to people.
I,
I, yeah, I know everyone's dealing with shit.
I'm very aware.
I always give people passes.
I'm really sensitive.
to everyone.
I understand that I have no idea
what you're dealing with.
But I still do not think
it's ever an excuse to be fucking rude.
Yeah, like people in the restaurant go,
excuse me, where's our fucking meal?
No, exactly.
There's just no reason to be rude.
You can be down, you can be somber,
you can remove yourself,
you can excuse yourself,
but there's never an excuse to be fucking rude.
Yeah.
I agree with you on that.
Yeah, it's sometimes you want to be like, you know, I, when somebody's rude at you, that's different.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, you got to stand up for yourself.
Would you rather have someone say, all right.
Try to keep a straight face here.
Okay.
Somebody, you have the choice.
And they're serious when they say this.
They cut you off by going quiet or shut up.
or
shh
which bothers me more
a snap
what's the first one
what's the one thing
I have mine that I'd be like
okay I'm okay with that
which one am I okay with
well out of all of them what's the
what's the worst and what's the one that snap is the
worst snap's the way
can't do it
sent to chill up my spine
I can I guess deal with
a shit is okay but you know what mine is
I don't mind when someone says
Shut up
Quiet
You don't mind it
It's kind of just funny
Because I say it to people too
I go people will be talking
When I'm walking by or driving
I'm going to quiet
And they go
What do you say?
I always say it
I always say quiet
You know the only time I get
Actually kind of pissy at people
Is when I play settlers of Catan
Ooh I've never
I have that game
And I've never played it
We should play that
So many people have told me about that
It's called Katan
Yes
I love Ketan
I love Katan.
I play it on my phone.
Maybe a...
Or isn't there a game called Raw?
Not familiar.
The sun god.
Raw.
That sounds like a nerd game.
But Katan, I have that downstairs.
I love it.
It's a little difficult to understand, right?
Yes, but once you get it, it's good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's time for shit talking with Jamie Lynn Sigler.
Let's do it.
I'm looking at my little face behind your left shoulder, by the way.
Yeah, you're on it.
You made the wall.
I made the wall.
I made the wall.
Yeah, you did.
The montage right there.
I don't see you.
Yeah, you don't age.
That's pathetic, really.
Now it's making me question if I should go back to the side part.
Here.
Well, you look elegant there.
Right now you look like the girl next door.
What?
I'm going to get into my elegant era.
I'm going to go back to my side part.
Go back to elegance, please.
Whatever you were doing, go back to that.
Got it. Noted it.
All right, shit talking.
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Leanne, what is your all-time favorite TV theme song?
Beverly Hills 902 and O theme song.
I use this one.
You know what mine is.
Give me a break because I shall need one.
Give me a break.
Nell Carter, give me a break.
Yeah, Mel Carter, of course.
I love that.
I love it.
I finally found where I belong.
Wow.
Give me a break.
You don't know that, do you?
I remember the show.
But I'm not remembering
Play it
You know you guys
Yeah, I'm gonna play it
Because you guys are looking at me
And when you hear it
You're gonna be like
Wait a minute
That's
I just like that good
electric guitar
Of Beverly Hills 902 and O
Now
Yeah
Na na
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
All right
Here we go
Give me a break
Give me a break
Give me a break
Because I should
Give me a break
Because I should need my
Give me a break
there's something about a synthesizer look i know my love of 80s music my wedding band was an 80s
was the spasmatics like amazing i there's something about a synthesizer
and a voice like nell carter that just feels like home it does it does it feels like you're home
I actually said that before
because somebody asked a question like that recently
and I came up with Nell Carter again.
That's the second time.
Big Nell Carter fan.
I'm sticking with it.
I love it.
I love that show.
Raj, tell me about your worst haircut.
Never had one.
It was on a set.
I was doing this movie in the Dominican Republic
and the hairdresser was old school.
and they wanted more like volume in my hair
and so we had like come up with like maybe let's put some extensions
and he was like no I have an idea I'm going to cut layers
and when I say cut layers they were like at the top of my head
all the way down to where they had to fly someone in to put extensions in my hair
because of how much he ruined my head.
Did you cry?
Uh, no.
No.
Liar.
No, I didn't cry.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
I think I cried when they shaved my head for the first time.
Really?
Yeah.
Tell me about that.
No,
is that weird to see?
You had a shaved head for a long time, right?
I just was nervous because I'm like, they're going to fire me.
I've got this weird bump.
It's my occipital bone.
You thought they were going to fire you because you had a bad dumb?
Oh, yeah.
Well, I wasn't as pretty as the rest of the cast.
So I was kind of like, you know, I felt odd man out.
It was a very, you know, a very beautiful cast.
So I just thought they'd fire me.
But it turned out.
You got a good dumb.
Yeah.
Who's the coolest member, DJ Kanto, asked, a member of the YMH studio family?
Oh, God, that's so hard to pick.
I love Christina.
Yeah.
I love her.
She's like big mommy energy.
She calls everybody Mommy, and she's just loving.
She's really supportive and loving.
I love her.
Jessica B., what's your favorite piece of clothing you own and why?
A cashmere sweater from the row.
From the row.
Because it was like thousands of dollars.
Jeez, Louise.
Then I got it a sample sale, but still, it just feels expensive when I wear it.
Give me your best impression of anybody you do impressions of, even if it's your mom.
I don't do impressions.
How would you, if you were your mom, how would you be?
Your mom angry as a child, as you're when you're a child.
There were no words.
They were being things thrown and fists fly.
Really?
Your mom was a smacker?
Big time.
There was no words, I'm telling you.
It was just a, it was like an out of nowhere.
Cross the face, cross the back.
You never saw it coming.
The golden days and parents could hit their kids.
I know my lane.
I don't know impressions.
It's not my.
It's not my kids, but an occasional butt smack.
No, people used to hit their kids.
Yeah.
Thank you.
That's how it went.
Thank you.
Yep.
Carrie B.
I also have MS.
I'll be at the.
primary progressive form and I'm curious as to what your process is to keep yourself healthy and
able to get through such long work days like is there something in particular I don't go to
lunch with the crew I eat lunch in my trailer which is a bummer to save your strength yeah just to rest
just to rest I don't go out after work I go I just I'm kind of when I'm working it's just work
and then home and I don't hang out as much not even to say because I would have the energy but
just to conserve if I needed.
Yeah, and I just, I ask for help more.
I'll ask, I'll be like, yeah, I'll ask for a chair.
I'll ask for my trailer closer or a van.
And when you realize like it's not that big of a deal and then people start to get it.
I will say, just join this board called the one and four coalition, which is like basically just trying to educate all different.
areas within this business about people with disabilities and a lot of productions are now
going to start hiring like disability coordinators so that first AD wouldn't have to have
that conversation like the people in Big Sky figured it out as we went along but now there'll be
somebody that could literally just be like this is what you're going to need for so yeah it doesn't
go to you actors you know crew members everyone yeah I like that yeah and then you don't have to
feel like oh I'm asking even though you're it's not a you shouldn't have to feel that way
But this is somebody who will take care of your needs.
That's right.
I like it.
Lastly, Jen T.
Her first interview was the reason I became a patron of inside of you.
Please tell her that I said, thank you for sharing her story about her MS diagnosis.
As someone like myself who this year was tested for several neurological conditions, it was a scary
time because of her I felt that I was truly not alone.
That's very sweet.
It makes me emotional because that's like, but that's the exchange that I'm getting to because
when I talk about it I don't feel I feel I feel less alone I when I share I and get messages like that
it reminds me because that's you know that's what we all want to feel right it's human right it's a
great thing about being a human being when other people act like human beings yeah yeah um well if you
ever need anything for me I'm here I know seriously I mean go go to Becky Becca first well
no I'm kidding obviously no you could honestly ask me for anything I'd be there in a hard
I know you would.
I adore the crap out of you.
I love you.
I don't want to bother you.
Why would you want to bother?
What if I just called you one day and say, hey, I'm just, you would make me so happy.
I would.
Yeah.
I wouldn't, if I didn't.
Was that the tree?
It was a ghost.
You have ghosts in here?
Mm-hmm.
Of Halloween past.
Oh, wow.
I forgot what I was going to say.
What's your favorite horror movie, by the way?
I loved all Freddie Kruger when I was a kid.
Yeah, but a lot of them are terrible, but there's a few good ones.
The first one's great.
First one.
The Dream Warriors was great.
I remember, I remember, so, you know,
remember Blockbuster's a thing.
I remember Friday night, my dad took me to Blockbuster,
and I got Sleepway Camp,
and I watched it by myself.
Angela.
And I couldn't get over at the end when you saw the penis,
when they showed a penis at the end.
Way to give it away.
Okay.
No, it's 30, it's 40 years old.
If you haven't seen it, tough shit.
But Sleepaway Camp, if you haven't seen it,
it's a doozy, isn't it?
What scared me most was the penis.
Like that's what really freaks me to fuck out.
And it frees frames on her face at the air right.
Have you seen it?
Sleep away,
Kate Angelo.
Oh my God.
It's so bad,
but so good.
So bad,
but so good.
I adore the crap of you.
This is great.
I knew it would be.
Thanks for being here.
I hope it was.
What do you mean you hope it was?
I don't know.
I just want to be invited back.
You'll come back whenever you want to come back.
You feel like you want to say something.
You come back.
Okay.
That's it.
Okay.
All right.
Love you.
Love you.
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