Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Jared Padalecki

Episode Date: October 3, 2019

Jared Padalecki… One half of the Supernatural duo joins us today to talk about the hit series and how much it has meant to his life, finding his wife of nine years and best friends Jensen and MIsha on-set, while sharing how the show coming to and end was a mutual group agreement between the show’s notables. Jared opens up about growing up in Texas where aspirations for acting were looked down upon, having a love of unpacking things through debate and taking the role of devil’s advocate, and his take on realizing self worth detached from the opinions of others.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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At the end of this episode, we are going to play the third track to Left on Laurel's debut album, which I'm very proud of, saved by the ground. Today, let's get inside this guy, Jared Padalecki. Man, what a treat he was. He's full of enthusiasm, and he's such a sarcastic, son of a bee. I love you, Padalecki. This was a real joy for me having you on here. and I love the success you've had on this show

because Smallville was just, Smallville was like, I think, just ending, or I was just leaving Smallville in season seven as this Supernatural came on, an old Sammy Winchester. Oh, good old Sam, Winchester, Sammy and Dean. Padalecki talks pretty frankly about his time on this show, and I think you'll dig it.

This is the final season, Supernatural. Let's get inside of Jared Padalecki. It's my point of view. You're listening to Inside. of you with michael rosenbaum inside of you with michael rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience do you remember that song and it's you and me and all of the people nothing to do yeah live house i can't take my eyes of you and me i think you're making up lyrics now but i think that was I think they were on your show.

Wasn't Lifehouse on Smallville? I think the band was on Smallville at one point. How do you remember that? Somebody watched Smallville. I mean, Secret Superfan. I got Lex Luthor tattooed on my upper left peck. How loserish of me if I actually had pajamas that said LL on them?

I mean, could you imagine a girl coming over and going, what's that? I think the real thing is, is how loser would you be if you did not? have pajamas that said l l i really don't but you know what i did just buy i swear to god do not you're the first person i'm telling i tweeted that i didn't win the bid but i actually found out that i did win the bid because i saw a number and i was like i didn't bid that much but there were all these service fees i bid on bert reynolds auction for his pajamas and i won no way yeah i have Bert Reynolds, I get him next week, Bert Reynolds' pajamas.

Well, if the rumors are true, there's going to be far too much space in the crotch area of his pajamas. I'm going to have his DNA, Lonnie Anderson's DNA. Who else was on those pajamas? Sally Fields' DNA. Jesus.

What's on your armband? Oh, it's my... See, I am a door. I have a douchebag. It's inside of you. It's my own... I got it. I got it. I'm going to send you some. Would you wear them? I would love to. Not a word of a lie. I wear four armbands every day during my workout. I would love some. I'm going to send you some. You'll email me your dress. I'll send you that. I'll send you that. I'll send you on your dress. I think you have my address. But yeah, I do think it's curious that you were, you were concerned about having LL and being too douchebag. But meanwhile, you have an armband that says fucking Michael Rosenbaum on it. He's normally wearing a hat that says it too.

Hey, talking to you, my producer guy. That's Rob, by the way, Jared. Without him, we wouldn't have figured it out. Hey, no offense, Rob. I'll gladly add you as my contact. I didn't mean what I wrote. On your fake Skype account that we created for you. Yeah, Padlady.

I just talked to Jensen. I just talked to Misha. I had already talked to Mark Shepard. So you're the final piece of the puzzle, dude. All right. Save the best for last. By the way, that looks like a beautiful home you got there in Texas. Thanks, man.

This is my office. I'll give you a little Arlo Get back on the couch Now no one's seeing this except me No I know This is my home office Your office is bigger than my house Yeah no shit man

He's in Texas This isn't my office by the way This is the library So my guest house You can see the pool I mean you probably can't see it Oh my gosh Yeah we have some friends playing

And this is one of my favorite places To come out Have a cigar Have a glass of wine We have four seats here. My guest house is pretty awesome. Has my office on the third floor. So we come out and play guitar and chill out.

But yeah, yeah, we... How far are you from Austin? I live in Austin. Well, from what part of Austin? I mean, I live in Austin. The city, the city. I am no traffic, probably less than 20 minutes. I just live in West Lake.

Genevieve and I lived in West Austin for a while. This is back in 2010 when we first moved. tier. And then West Austin's super expensive. And West Lake is really awesome and not much further. So we got more for our money and found this big pad where we have a basketball court and

we have chickens and a guest house for because Genevieve's from California and my family's from San Antonio. And you met on set. You met in season like four or some shit? Season four, episode one. Actually day one of filming season four

we met and just kind of kept working with each other, went on a date about four months later. Wait, so it took four months before you actually went on a date with her. So there was a lot of flirting on set. You guys were flirting with each other? I don't know if we were flirting with each other.

I probably flirted with her more than she flirted with me, but she wasn't a regular. So she probably filmed 10 to 15 days before I finally asked her out, but over four months. You know, like she wasn't, the show was about me and Jensen and, you know, Misha was introduced

in the same episode that Jen was introduced, that's kind of funny actually Misha's first episode is the same as Genevieve's first episode And you guys are tight You and Misha are pretty tight right Yeah but Genevieve's a lot better looking So I wasn't gonna propose to him

Well you met one of your best friends That would probably be forever along with your wife I've got a couple of them I mean that's pretty extraordinary So when you went on your first date with Genevieve Were you nervous you're like oh crap We worked together Is this weird does she think I'm using a kind of like

I mean or was she kind of like charmed by you immediately I don't know maybe some combination. You'd have to ask her for the truth. But my version of the stories is sort of that we went out for lunch on a Saturday to Cactus Club, as you know very well, had some sweet potato fries. She was, I think I saw her in the lunch table, lunchroom one time on set that she was eating french fries. And I was like, oh, that's brave. And she's like, I love fries. And so I remember that. And I was like, well, my favorite fries in Vancouver are the Cactus Club Cafe Sweet Potato fries. So I invited her out for lunch, stayed for dinner, and never looked back. I think back

in that day back in season four 2008 Jared was pretty obnoxious like I don't think I was nervous I think I was sort of like yeah I'm badass I got a TV show you know I have a corvette like I'm kind of like I'm the coolest guy I know luckily I think I had too much confidence

and I asked her out otherwise I wouldn't have but she humbled me but yeah we never looked back did you obviously kiss the first night no we don't kiss on the first dates we hugged you didn't kiss on the yeah right i mean like i don't want this to be some kind of hashtag movement but yes we did we did what's wrong with that you're gonna be a hat this is like two people

who enjoy each other who had a kiss maybe some more yeah you had a couple of meals at the cactus club maybe a kiss was in order we did we did we kissed um obviously we made sure that her parents were watching so it was appropriate uh it was on the front porch no i'm just kidding yeah the first the first date was a was a hit is it true that that you actually tested for Tom Welling's part of Clark Kent? Is it true? Kind of. So at the time, I was on Gilmore Girls.

Did you like working on that show? I did. I dug it. I mean, for me, I started Gilmore Girls when I was 17. I was in San Antonio at the time. I was going to go to UT Austin, which is why we found our way back to Austin. We loved the city and all that.

And I think every single white person that was above six feet tall test for Clark Kent. Did you not? Did you not test for Clark Kent? I mean, look at me. Do I look like I tested for Clark Kent? I was the evil, weird-looking one. I feel like every, especially everybody in the cadre of sort of like WB television white boy

actors at the time that were, and I'm, you know, I'm taller than Tom. I'm a big white dude, you know, so that kind of lends itself to Clark Kent. Tom was certainly better for it than I was, but yeah, I did test for it. I don't think it was like an official testing, but it was sort of like one of these, hey, come meet with the gang and Joe and all that. And I knew David Nutter he hired me for my first ever job of guest star on ER.

So he did ER and then he did, she met him on Smallville and ended up doing Smallville. No, I know. I'm saying then you, but you also, you met him when you were testing for it. And then you went on to Supernatural which he directed the pilot. That's it. He directed the pilot and the first episode.

So I had met David. He hired me to play like a car crash victim. them on ER. My dad was Jim Belushi. I had great times. I learned how to do a wheelie on wheelchairs, which was pretty fun. And then, I guess years later, when he was going to do the pilot of Supernatural, I don't know how it all worked out. They brought me in. I don't if it was him or Eric Kripke or McGee or whoever was involved. Then after Smallville, which for me was, I don't think it was a big deal. Like, I think everybody went in. I know Jensen

went in and got pretty far. I did not. But then when Supernatural was going to happen, They brought me back, and I took a meeting, and Eric Kripke, who created the show, I always laughed because apparently his critique was, well, we want somebody who's intellectual. Well, wait, hang on. You laugh about that, but I didn't know this, but you, I mean, you were pretty smart growing up. Growing up, I was. I mean, you were an intellect. I mean, you. I did all right for myself.

Yeah, I was a math lead. I was a National Merit scholar and all that jazz. Did you do forensic? Or was that your buddy? No, I did. I won the national tournament and forensics. Yeah, I did speech and debate. I'm actually judging the national finals in two days because they're in Dallas.

So when I did national speech and debate, it was in St. Louis. This was in 1998. I was 15. And I won nationals in duo interpretation. What does that mean? What does duo interpretation mean? Your interpretation is basically a duet scene, but you face forward as opposed to facing each other. So if you and I were doing a scene about an interview,

you would be looking towards the audience as would, it's almost like you're doing your coverage of a scene. You're kind of facing the camera. You're both facing the camera. You're not facing each other. So it feels more, I think from an audience perspective, if there was a scene where we were in a fight

and I punched you, then I would just punch forward and you would react with your jaw or whatever. It's called Duo Interpretation. And I was, it started in like 1996, I think, and my partner, Chris Cardenas and I won Nationals in 1998. I have that giant trophy and I sleep with it every night in my own private bed

because Genevieve you won't let me take it into bed with us. But what is? I mean, I'm still thinking won the National Forensic League Forensic, I think forensic files and crime. Yeah, well, I mean, I guess forensics can mean anything. It's kind of the deduction of anything.

You know, you can be a medical forensic person or you can be a financial forensic person. Oh. It's kind of like breaking it down to its finest element. and then building it back up. And with debate, you know, part of it is who's your favorite basketball team?

Then embarrassing, the New York Knicks. That is embarrassing. Now, I need you to argue why the Los Angeles Lakers this year are the best basketball team. So you don't believe it, but it helps you flesh your ideas out. Like with debate, they basically give you a subject, abortion. You know, one of these like a hot topic, hot trigger subjects, abortion, immigration, and they say,

okay you're pro your con here's 15 minutes now you're going to come debate each other and so even if let's say you're very very wildly pro life if they point to you and say hey you're pro choice then you have to now argue pro choice and so it helps you kind of go like well what does the other side quote unquote think about this like how can I how can I justify this but also that's scary that's scary because now you're you're saying all these stereotypes or really trying to convince yourself or the other person that you or know what you're talking about when really that you don't believe what you're saying. That's kind of like

it's probably what a lot of people do anyway is they pontificate about shit that they think and then they start talking about it and they realize I'm wrong. You know, you hear seven people around you saying like Steph Curry is the greatest basketball player of all time and you're like yeah, yeah sure yeah he is. But then if somebody says like well

now argue that Kauai Leonard is then you have to force yourself to go like okay well what to Kauai do in a wonderful way it forces you to look inside and almost it's great for acting because you're not an evil person by any means but you had to play a bad guy's quote unquote for a long time and you get to play several people you have to you have to try and humanize them quote unquote the other side or even somebody else who you slightly differ to so I feel like it was invaluable in what I do for a living now or what I've done for the last 20 years at least that's really interesting I didn't know any of you Rob did you know anything about that stuff

I do not. Yeah, we should start arguing about things. Hey, does Genevieve ever say, stop debating with me. I don't want to hear your shit. You know, you're getting, you're doing this on purpose. Does she ever say it or how many times a day does she say it? I feel like I'm sort of well-known in all the circles I run around as the devil's advocate. Whatever the subject, even if I agree 100%, I'll argue it.

Just kind of flesh out my own ideas, maybe to be a little bit provocative. Do people just hate it? I guess maybe, yes. Hey, when you guys are on hiatus, which you are now and you go back in a couple of weeks or whatever, do you still hang out with Jensen at all? You're like, hey, this is our time away because we're like on top of each other all the time? Or do you still like going, hey, we're having a barbecue. I do. I saw him the other day.

I saw him two days ago. I talked to him today. I'll see him in a couple of days as well. I see him as much as I see any of my other friends, I suppose. You know, I mean, he has a wife and three kids. I have a wife of three kids. So you guys, they're all friends. The kids are friends.

Yeah, they play. go to school together. But yeah, I see Ackles all the time. I mean, he's, he's a grown man. He's a 41-year-old man. I'm a few years behind him. But he's a husband and a father. I think with Ackles, it's a really cool thing where I can be around him 24 hours a day or I can be around him one hour every month, but we know who each other are. You know, like, I know who he is. I know if he's not calling me, he's not mad of me, it's because he's with his kids. He's watching his twins. Or he's taking care of business at the brewery. Or he's with his wife. or they're doing whatever.

And I think vice versa. You know, you have to somebody's who kind of give you a hard time for not calling. And you're like, motherfucker, I'm so busy with so many things.

I'm not avoiding you. Of course, that's immaturity. That's high school crap. That's high school crap. Your friends understand. The majority of my long-term friends are the type of people who,

if I don't see them for two months, I'll run into them. It's like, dude, how you been? You look like, let's catch up. It feels like two days has passed or something.

Right. Yeah, that's, that's friendship. you know what I mean was it weird that you guys were I mean you started the show you were pretty much kids for the most part I mean are you how old were you when you started the show 20 I was 22 during the pilot 22 I'll be 37 next month it's been 14 years I was 20 you grew up on this show big time and you know when you first met jensen did you guys hit it off immediately like were you

like buds right away yeah sure we certainly weren't then where we are now but in my opinion we certainly had kind of a realization like oh i can get along with this dude you know and you've lived in a life for how many years now like 21 you meet some people we were like okay this is not my kind of person i can be around them i can work with them i can have dinner with them but i don't want to see them outside of when i'm forced to see them that's not the situation with jensen we kind of met and it was sort of like hey where you from texas where you from texas who's your football team Cowboys. Tell me about your family. Well, my parents are married.

I got an older brother and younger sister. Tell me about your family. My parents are married. I got an older brother and younger sister. Or did you say, no, you don't? What do you mean? No, you don't. I'm going to tell you why you don't.

I'm going to take the other side of that conversation. Wait, what? I should have. I don't know. I think I was too nervous then. Yeah, we had a lot in common, a lot of common goals, a lot of common passions and our work ethic and stuff like that. I think there are a lot of reasons Supernatural is gone as long as it's gone and while we have another year.

And I think a lot of it is that he and I were just committed to kind of being dudes. You know, like he's not one of these party guys who has a bunch of scandals, nor am I. Like, we're just kind of like, I'm a dad, man. I'm a dad. I'm a husband. I'm a dog owner. And, you know, I have chickens that I went out and got an egg today. And we have a guard.

Like, I just want to relax and chill out. And I think the same with him. We're both hard workers. We can work when we want to, but we got along pretty immediately. I just don't want to make it seem like, oh, we're best friends from moment one. Well, he says that your work ethic is different than his. He says you put more work into it. You read the script a lot of times.

You really learn your shit. You go in there prepared where he, the night before, reads it over. Like, I'm more like you. I wish I could do that. I wish I had a photographic memory. I wish I could, like, you know, Kristen Bell was on the podcast, and she talks about that. If I could do that, I would, I would be, I really feel like I'd. be the biggest movie star in the world. I disagree, man.

The fact that I'd be the biggest thing. Yeah, he would not be. Bullshit. If I could memorize lines and I have to stress about him and like go in and like know it and just be able to do anything, oh my guy, I'd never be nervous. I'd love you for years, but listen, you got to look at like pictures of Chris Hemsworth and stuff and then just put them on I'm saying I'd say best actor. I didn't say the best looking guy. You said the biggest movie star in the world. And I just want to combat that. Does that sound cocky? No, let's debate this. Well, hang on. You're not the biggest movie star.

Yeah. So I'm going to say Michael Rosenbaum, you would be the biggest movie star. Prove me wrong. I couldn't be. I'm too lazy. I get fatigued easily. You know, I just worry too much. I need to see therapy.

I had some childhood trauma. You're right. I couldn't do it. You're right, Rob. I couldn't do this. If I'm arguing pro, I'd say, listen, nobody without childhood trauma, and that sounds like a quadruple negative. It's purposeful. But you need.

some childhood trauma to get to a place where you have the emotional depth. Quit doubting yourself. Like, I don't want to see Mr. Perfect go like, oh, I'm so sad. I want to see somebody with some sadness. There's a reason we watch Sean Penn. There's reason we listen to Tom Waits. You know, they've got some sadness behind them. There's something dark behind them.

The sadness is more interesting. That makes you a bigger movie star. And you know what? Sure, you're a little strange looking. Yeah. But I'm, you know, George Clooney, like, he's got a little too many gray hairs. He's not perfect either. Don't you dare.

Don't you dare. And let me tell you something. Jared. By the way, when I said that a while back because I was like, I was like, God, if I had a photographic memory, I didn't mean I'd be the biggest story in the world. But yeah, I feel like I would be further along than I am because I wouldn't worry about learning lines. And part of my thing is like I really take too much time and I really want to learn it as opposed to being

able to go, I got it. I got it. Moving on. Yeah, I'll say this. This might be different. And this is legit. Like, I find some weird pleasure in the process. Like, I don't watch the show. I don't watch my work. I don't avoid it like the play. Like if it's a Thursday and it's on

or if I'm sitting in a bar on a morning where NBA playoffs were on the night before and so there's a rerun. I'll watch it. I'll chuckle. I'll giggle. I'll go like, oh, I remember that. But I don't get off for the 42 minutes of screen time that end up making it to television. I get off on the hours leading up to the process.

yeah like that's what gets like i just for instance jensen and i ran a marathon together with a bunch of the other crew of supernatural um and cast for charity in seattle in november he ran it he was like fuck that done one and done i ran it i sat in the bathtub an hour later and signed up for the austin marathon two months later then i ran the boston marathon two months after that uh in two weeks i'm running Jesus two weeks from now i'm running uh ultra marathon in the swiss house like I just love the process. I love reading. And Jensen would say this as well.

Like, he's like, yeah, I enjoy reading, but he's not, he's not going to go home and go like, man, I have an hour. I'm going to grab a book. And I'm not speaking out of turn. I think he would say the same thing. I love the, like I read. He always makes fun of me. And he's right. Like, it's a weird thing about me.

I read instruction booklet still. Like if I buy an iPhone, I've had 12 iPhones, you know, every time. You read the whole thing. I don't read the whole thing to memorize it, but I just go through that process of unpacking something. Maybe it's the debate. and speech forensic background, but I get off on that. Like if I see Burns,

what is that hockey jersey behind you? And I know people can't see this, but there's a Burns. Yeah, he's probably going to win Norris Trophy of the Year this year for Best Defenseman. He won it last year. One of my close friends

who plays these star defensemen for the San Jose Sharks. Awesome. I want to know where he's from, how he grew up. Like, how did he get there? Like, you know, like I'm saying when I see something,

a book, a person, a trophy. an episode. I want to know how it was made. I want to know the steps that went into it. For whatever reason, it's probably a genetic character flaw. That's pretty crazy. That's a good thing, man.

I wish I was like that because, A, I don't read instruction manuals, which is why everything's put together wrong. You don't need to read instruction manuals anymore. Jensen always teases me. He's right. You don't need to. Watch a video. There's a tutorial online.

By the way, it's made to work. I would argue that you could probably grab 99% of any product on the shelf right now and use it and figure it out without reading instruction manual. But you're probably giving your children a good lesson and how to follow direction and things like that. Yeah, and mental dysfunction. Yeah, I get it. Is there some mental dysfunction there?

Yeah, a little bit of a lesson in OCD. Did you have a good childhood? I had an amazing childhood. You did. What makes a great childhood? What makes a great childhood? I don't know what makes a great childhood, but what made my childhood great was my parents are still married. We saw them on Father's Day. They came up to visit. I had an older brother

who's a dear friend, you know, best man of my wedding and I was best man of his. I have a younger sister who's a phenomenal young lady and she lives in San Francisco and we'll see each other this weekend as a matter of fact, even though she lives several states away. You can't deny having a support system. Like I knew if I fell, if I flawed, I had people on my team. But beyond that, I feel like I was in a position where I had to fail and had to fall. I didn't have some safety net where I never messed up. I wanted the satisfaction of doing something for myself. And beyond that, I had to do something for myself.

You know, we didn't grow up super wealthy by any means. We grew up in a great house. You know, we had three squares a day and we had cars that were safe and I had my own bedroom. Like, I'm not saying I was, you know, in the projects by any means. We're not million. you know we weren't like oh you're a millionaire and weren't privileged right weren't necessarily yeah i wasn't we weren't financially privileged uh i was certainly privileged and then i was a

tall white dude um sure sure you know what i mean like i certainly had my i certainly had and have my good fortune good blessings i'm a white guy my legs and arms work well enough to get me around good facial hair good facial hair when i'm allowed to grow it tall there were certain obvious blessings for I always I have a funny relationship with like privileged fortunate and blessed and I don't know my definition of those three words yet I love unpacking it with people who love to unpack it with me so I don't know if I was privileged blessed or fortunate or some combination of all three but I feel like I had all the raw materials other than the way I looked when I was born and having a good support system nothing was really given to me you know I had to fight to you know I'm the 15 year

in Texas who's quitting sports to be an actor you know and your friends and family are like uh what like why aren't you going to play football this is texas you know and you're like well i love the theater we got into that with jensen too where he talked about that having makeup on and all all the baseball players looking at him and like going all right man you're just saying this song and i'm like that's got to be weird i remember what happened to me for the first time when i did a play and but i was like nobody nobody looked at me anyway but when i did a play that was the first time i actually got recognized where a popular kid was like hey man you're funny you're funny in that play and that just changed my life just hearing somebody who I thought was way better than me

I felt like oh my god I got to do this I got I can't be me I've got to pretend to be somebody else which was not the good thing even though it got me you know gave me confidence I guess to work myself way up to be an actor and all that in a way I wish I would have gotten that self-worth as a young boy sort of like you know inside knowing I'm good enough knowing I'm smart enough knowing I could do it I didn't get that, but you sound like... You wish you would have gotten it from who? I mean, I've talked about it before, but I feel it my family, my mother and father. I wish that I would have...

You think you can get self-worth from your family? You can get support, but self-worth comes from one and a half of the two words. Self, man. No one can give you self-worth, and you have self-worth. I mean, I've known you for 14 years, however long, you earned it. And you can't convince them... If you were a billionaire child and they said, oh, you're great, you're perfect, and here's $100 million to go start a foundation.

It's like jealousy. It always works the opposite. You think it's going to work. Like giving somebody self-worth is only going to take their self-worth away. It's when you're bleeding and sweating and crying going like, I can't make it. And you get that little like, hey, you were funny. You get help along the way. And I think it's our duty as humans to help each other.

Ultimately, it comes for yourself. I think there is a, look, self-worth is one thing. But like, I think that support system, that creates self-worth. think as a child you're not I'm not I wasn't mature enough to have self-worth or no it's self-worth was so all I'm saying is if I would have got the support system if I would have got the love if I would have got all these things I think the self-worth would have been there would have been more confident what would have been more confident but but what would you look like now what would I look like now I think I're hair and a beard no I think I'd be more grounded I think

I'd be more even though I'm like I feel like I'm a good person I feel like I try to do nice things and I'm charitable and all those things I'm not going to pat myself in the back I I think I would have been a little more normal. And now you say, well, normal got you here, normal guy. But I think I would have chosen more normalcy, more grounded, more self-worth, more... Would normalcy have been self-fulfilling? You know, I mean, there's a point where training wheels hinder don't help. And a support system can go too far.

I feel like knowing you how I've known you, you have enough intellectual curiosity and compassion and impact. and empathy to be a perfect person you know what I mean like yeah we all have our shit but dude I would argue that if you had more support you wouldn't have a burns jersey in the background because you wouldn't have that I hunger you know you're probably right you're probably right and look I I agree I'm here now I'm not gonna I'm not going to have one foot in the past one foot in the future and I'm not I don't want to do that because then you're pissing on the present that's what my old therapist used to say you're pissing on the present if you If you stand up and you look at your left,

you get one foot in the past, one foot in the future, and you're pissing on the present. Looked right down. There's a great argument. Again, maybe this is the forensic part of me coming out, but the whole foot in the past, foot in the future makes you piss on the present. My argument would be those who forget the past

are doomed to repeat it. You have to acknowledge what happened, where you came from, why you came from there, what those on the other side were trying to do, how it was benefiting them. You know, there are psychopaths on the planet, who want to hurt people

but I think most I think the majority of people are trying to do the best they can given the situation and circumstances they have you know so maybe I should pay you for this therapy session

yeah I thought you said you were sending a check you're pretty knowledge no I'm gonna send you wristbands I'll take it that's what you're getting a couple wristbands and you're gonna support the inside I want four wristbands

do you want four I do I use four were you one of those guys on the set that if like it was up to you or was a collaborative, collective, I don't want to put the blame on someone else, but to be as honest as you can, when someone came up and said,

hey, do you want to do three more seasons, or do you want to do one more season that's balls out and not do three more seasons? Were you ready to just call quits? I, um, without selling out any friends, I, I,

I mean, I don't know what Jensen did or didn't say. I don't know what Misha did or didn't say. It was an agreement. None of us went, fuck it. I'm out. Fuck you guys.

You're cool, you're cool, you're cool, fuck you, you're cool, I'm out kind of thing. This was sort of like, hey, let's go ahead and do what's best for our family in the world and the show. We had some pretty outstanding and outrageous support from CW and WB. I feel like, and maybe it's part of them just, you know, being kind to their actors so that we don't freak out like actors do and actresses. But I believe that if we wanted to go five, 10, 15 more years, they probably would have justified because they know what we've sacrificed, how we've worked and how they've worked. We always said when it's time for the show to end, we'll know.

And that moment hit, we were like, okay, I think it's time for the show to end. Like, I don't want to jump the shark. I don't want to go too far. I don't want to, and I say this, man, like I'm sitting next to a five-month-old puppy who was born five days after I had to put a dog down, I'd had for 16 years. And so, yeah, shout out to my girl up in Doggy Heaven. I got her in 2003 during Gilmore Girls, and we had to put her down in January. And it wasn't easy. She would have lived longer, maybe a couple days, maybe a day, maybe a couple weeks, maybe a year. But she was

going blind. She was going deaf. She was losing her faculties. And so it kind of came to that situation. And I hope I'm not making too much of an analogy. Like, I don't think supernatural is shitting itself when it sleeps. But it was one of those things like, I love this. And because I love this, I want to see it off and let it go with honor into the next whatever. So I feel like with Supernatural, and I think Supernatural is doing some of its best work. And I think that's how I want to go out. And it's not my choice. It was me and Jensen and Bob and Andrew and Peter Roth and Mark Petowitz.

And we all talked and Misha and we kind of had to have a come to God of like, hey, guys, okay, you know, this show isn't going to go 45 seasons. So how many seasons is it going to go? What does it look like? How can we respect and honor and keep the show? Keep the quality and keep our, you know, be happy and be proud of what we've done and move on. For sure. And even, even one, like, I want to want more. I want the show to end wanting more supernatural.

Like, I don't want to do the last season going like, okay, let's just go ahead and finish this marathon. I want to finish the marathon going like, damn it, I wish that was longer. That was incredible. What about a movie? If they approached you about a movie, a supernatural movie after the series, would you do it? I would love to. I would love to. And I did that recently with Gilmore Girls.

So I did Gilmore Girls. It was from 2007. I did the first five years. And then Netflix brought back a reboot. And I was available only to do one scene. But that was a fun little way to go revisit some of the other actresses and actors that I worked with, the producers, directors, and writers, and kind of given an homage to a show I'd worked on two decades ago. So I would love that.

I mean, that's obviously, it's far too early to even, I suppose, for the people who pay for it, talk about it. But, man, I would love that. Did you ever lose your shit on Jensen or Jensen ever lose this shit on you? And you guys just kind of fought it and then got, you love each other so you made up. But you were like, fuck that, man. I'm so fucking tired of this. Fuck you. Yeah, probably a dozen times.

Really? Yeah, man. On set? On set? We had a few growing pains where we kind of be at Wits End. And inevitably, it was never about Jensen. It was never about me. It was about what was going on outside of set

that you didn't have time to deal with. You know, you're in a talk with your wife or your dad or your accountant and you're stressed out and then they're calling you back to set. You have to hang up and you're still worried about this or that. But I think the big deal is that Jensen and I have always had a commitment to each other. Hey, we have a great friendship and I'll value him as a friend

and a brother forever. But I think the big deal was when we would reach Witt's end, we'd walk off we'd get together one of our trailers we'd hash it out i was never pissed off of jensen and i don't think he was ever pissed off of me i mean sure like any any two alpha males on set or at work anywhere you're gonna butt heads and you're working 23 episodes 20 to 23 episodes a year you're there on top of each other all the time together if you don't fight something's wrong with you there's not i mean you it's my you've had a relationship with your wife for 15 years 14 years have not been married fuck off i know like 10 but

Fuck you, Rob. Yeah, fuck you, Rob. But the point is, you've known him so long, you've been working together for so long, months, months, if you don't fight something's wrong. If you don't get in a little spat. 100%. And I feel like that's where, again,

going back and kind of throwing a little tip of the hat to debate, like if you're talking about anything that's, if you're going through anything worthwhile, it does get contentious. You know, if it's, if you're having a conversation that's worth a damn, you're going to have a strong opinion. they're going to have a strong opinion.

They might not line up in exact parallel. We had ups and downs, but I think the deal with Jensen and me, even Misha as well, is that when we, whether it be Jensen or Misha or me, we're going through something or in a bad mood or got barky,

the other people kind of boot, like step up, would rally around and be like, hey, yeah, what's going on, man? Cool. Like, all right. Get it out. Hey, you did this.

That pissed me off. Cool. I didn't mean to. You did this. pissed me up. Damn, I didn't realize that. All right. Let's. And you get over it. Who cries more? Who gets more emotional? Me, for sure.

You get emotional. What do you get emotional about? Why do you have? Well, Jensen said something about like, you know, we're talking about this now. And like you said something like, you know, and he was, it was all a good spirit. He was, you know, he loves you obviously. But he said something like, you know, he was like, oh, man, this is our last hiatus.

I'm like, dude, we got a year left. Come on. I got emotional about everything, man. I mean... Do you cry on set? Have you cried in front of people? I've cried in front of people, for sure. I don't know. Like, for me, it's almost like hooting and hollering when you score a goal.

I grew up in a state where maybe emotion, outward show of emotion by a person of my gender is not really welcome. And then when I started experiencing it, I was like, this is great, you know? And luckily, I'm a big guy, so people don't make fun of me when I cry because I can beat their ass. Yeah. No, I heard rumors back when. I remember being on Smallville going, yeah, I heard Ackles and Padalecky got in a fight at a bar or something. We did we were pumped.

You didn't know this? I wasn't there, right? No. Me and Jensen and our buddy Jordan got jumped outside Lucy May Brown by like eight guys. And you got the shippie daddy, right? No, we beat the snot out of them. All of them? How many guys was it?

I think USA Today said it was like eight guys. And you beat them all up. Did they need to go to the hospital or they run a wire? Yeah, like three went to the hospital. Did you feel bad? Did they make you pay? No, they didn't make us pay. It's Canada.

I was like, hey, do you shake their hand and give them a hug? I got buying some maple syrup cookies and all as well. Were they big guys? No, they weren't big and they were drunk. It was mistaken identity. We were going to a bar where Jensen knew some of the bartenders and chefs and stuff. This was season one. This was literally like week two of shooting Supernatural of all time.

Did you get hit? Yeah. I got my ear busted. my hand broke, my shirt got torn. What about Jensen? He got, yeah, he got hit a few times too. We just got jumped. We thought we were like going out for a drink and got full on jumped.

We were stone cold sober. We were coming off a set and we were going to meet our producer, Peter Johnson, who was leaving the next day back for L.A. And it was one of the days of the fireworks in Canada. Remember there's like the fireworks they do every July, August. And a bunch of drunk dudes who had been in a big bar fight thought that we were some of the people they were fighting with. So they just came up and started punching. they just started who got punched first jensen i believe in the face i didn't see it happen at first i went to call my producer who was coming there to meet us for a drink to tell him like oh this place is kind of bunk

um so i had my Motorola razor phone in my hand and then i turn around and i see this guy i see jensen in this guy holding each other almost you know like it looks like they're about to fight and jensen had lived in a vancouver for a while with dark angel and smallville and um still life a pilot he had done or a he had done the jensen looked scared or kind of like what the fuck he was more like we were all sort of like uh what we all thought it was like some buddies he already knew that were coming up you know like you have a friend come on like he grabs him like we didn't know what's going on until they started throwing full on punches and then you jumped in we all yeah my buddy jordan and i jumped in who's the best fighter out of three you you jordan you jordan or jensen me and you

beat the shit of most of them would you say well the jenson well the let's just say the bouncer after the fight who didn't help came up to me because after the fight and the cops came and the ambulances came and we felt reports and we're like I need a beer so we went to go to the bar and drink and the bouncer comes up and he's like dude you knocked out three guys in 10 seconds and I was pissed off and I was like where were you why were you helping yeah so I guess my first three punches just dropped three guys out cold and they slept for a little bit one of the guys broke his ankle in his jaw, I guess I broke his ankle in his jaw. And Supernatural

had an air jet, right? I don't know. It didn't air for months. And full disclosure, I'm not saying go getting bar fights. I'm just saying if somebody punched you in the face, protect yourself. Yeah, hey, bay, bouncers. Bouncers do your job. Have you seen a fight? Well, no. Well, the funny thing is

if I saw this guy on the street right now, I wouldn't, I'd cross, like he was a big dude. But because I had just been in a fight and done pretty well for myself, I kind of grabbed him by the struff of his collar and was like, why don't you help? And he was saying, we're not allowed to, but it's illegal. Like, we're only allowed to break up fights. We can't jump in because the guy was big.

And I was like, we were outnumbered, man. Like, at one point in time, some guy was about to tackle me. He was hitting me in the back of the head. And I was like, thanks for the help, man. Like, where were you? How long did it take to calm down? How long did it take for your adrenaline to kind of go? Did you sleep that night?

Oh, like a baby. Probably, probably an hour, probably two beers, two. everybody was fine who got shook up the most in terms of like that like was like that was a little heavy my hand was broken our buddy jordan got a concussion he got tackled he was going to kick in the head um so he was in a doozy for a little bit jeez have you have you been in a fight since no not a not a legit like that i mean you know you wrestle buddies when you are fooling around all that but no fight where i meant harm like that fight i meant harm you know every other altercation since then has been too many beers at a concert and you end up wrestling with your family or brothers. Not like me and Genevieve, but like my brother or some other buddies or even like Jensen and I have wrestled

in hotel rooms and Misha. Like, you know, you know, like. Who could drink the most? Oh, God. I'd like to claim that. I'm the heaviest. I would say me. What do you weigh, 220?

Right now I'm a little light because I'm doing all those marathons. I'm probably like 210, 215 right now. 6.3? Come on now. Six-six. No, half between. Six-four and change.

Six-four and change. What are you? I'm about 72 inches. That's six feet in layman's terms. For those who can't see what's going on, Rosenbaum just got a little sexual with me when he said, that's a big boy. He kind of looked up and down. He did not. You did.

You kind of checked me out, even though all you can see is my shoulders. You can't even see. I was kind of, I was checking you out. I was like, let me see your shoulders there, man. That's a nice lamp you got. there is an actual lamp man dude this has been a real treat man I uh I really had fun I mean this

you're so fun to talk to I don't think we've had more of like more than a five minute conversation and I don't even know how long you know this has been a long time man I'm around brother you have my number dude I really sincerely love this I feel like I could just like you said a buddy that comes up to you after not seeing you and goes hey

it feels like two minutes a pass I feel like that like I feel so comfortable I think Rob even feels comfortable Rob super comfortable super comfortable look at him i do man you're you're a good dude you deserve all the success i love that you're a dad you're a you're a great father uh a great friend uh you know you're professional and you deserve the show and it's and i'm i know a lot of folks are going to be sad to see it in but 15 years is a good stretch it's a good chunk of chunk of time and it's going to be great i can't wait to hear the stories about you crying on set for this final season

I was telling Jensen, it's going to be like, oh, my God, this is our last Saturday of coming back from the beginning of a season. This is, oh, my God, this is the last. By the way, that will be me. Brother Beck, at you. And I know you wouldn't brag about this to your crowd, but there's probably one person on the planet who could call Jensen, Misha, and me on our time off and say, hey, you want to get on a phone call for an hour and record it? and that one person's too, man. And download Skype, figure it out. You're like, what are we doing for Skyping?

Jensen's like, why don't we be pen pals now? Honest to God, like use Morse code. Send passenger pigeons. I love you, buddy. Keep in touch. I'm going to be texting you dirty pictures. Done. I'm sending those wristbands to you.

Those incitey wristbands. All right, done. All right, buddy. Much love to you, man. Ciao. See you, bud. Thank you for listening to Jared Padalecki. That was a great interview.

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