Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - JENNIFER LOVE HEWITT: Frustrations Aging in Hollywood, Love Letter to Her Late Mother & Secret Hacks Filming On-Set

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

Jennifer Love Hewitt (Ghost Whisperer, 9-1-1) is back on the pod this week to share beautiful lessons from her late mother and how they’ve allowed her to navigate life with gratitude and a priority for passion (not obligation). Jennifer talks a lot about the Catch-22 in this industry when it comes to aging, along with her realization that she can ‘do no right’ in the public’s eye. We also get into tricks on set shooting dialogue for 9-1-1, anticipation for her Christmas movie era, and her daily challenge to stay present and unbothered. Thank you to our sponsors: ❤️ Betterhelp: https://betterhelp.com/inside 🖼️ Aura Frames: https://auraframes.com + “inside” 🟠 Discover: https://discvr.co/3Cnb1V8 🏈 PrizePicks: https://prizepicks.com/inside __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou 👕 Inside Of You Merch: https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🤣 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod 🌐 Website: https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's my point of you You're listening to Inside of You With Michael Rosenbaum Inside of You Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum Was not recorded in front of a live studio audience You know, I don't get to see you very often

Primarily because you're married You have a big career And you have three children now A two A nine and a seven and a seven and an eight an eight yeah that's a lot of work man

so much work I mean do you have a nanny we have had help like off and on we don't have any yeah I mean yes but not like a you know like some people have them that have been there since like the babies were born stuff like that we haven't had that

we waited a really long time to do that because I think we just wanted to be super involved and you know kind of get in there but yeah it's definitely getting hard not to have help. Yeah, because I remember like you were like all about, that's my puppy, but you were all about like family, even from your first kid. I remember you were doing, I think the ghost whisper or criminal minds or something and you said, I'm taking a three year hiatus. Yeah. You just said, boom, I'm done. Family. Yeah. Was that a hard decision or was that something that you were pretty adamant about off to go? I mean, it was, if I'm being honest, it was hard because other people didn't like it. It was easy for me. Um, But it was hard for people around me. I think they all were like, oh, was this postpartum? She lost your mind.

What's a combination of both what's going on? And I was just very clear. But, you know, I had my daughter a year after my mom passed. So I was very much like, oh, the universe is just, you know, I consider myself a student of the universe daily. And it had just taught me a very valuable lesson and that there are bigger things in life than, you know, being on the train of Hollywood. And I needed to just, I just needed to be well. I needed to like take care of myself mentally and emotionally. And being a mom for me did that and being an actress at that time did it.

So I just needed a break. Yeah, I remember that. We've talked about that many moons ago. Yeah. And by the way, you know, we'll get into the whole Hollywood train because I know you want to talk about that and all that stuff. But I'm looking at your Instagrams. And I just want to know, look, this might not air till after. after Halloween or whatever, but folks, if you look at Jennifer Love Hewitt's Instagram page,

you're going to see a lot of Halloween during Halloween. And this is like, this isn't like me. I go to CVS and I grab a 499 plastic pumpkin and put in front of my house. This is like detail. It's all, I think you're a person that's always in the detail. If you throw someone's birthday party, it's detailed. If you, Halloween, detailed, the Christmas tree, everything's got to be right and you want and especially for your kids you want them to just see it be it live it I do it's expensive how much do you spend don't lie on Halloween oh I don't even want to talk about it and I don't know that I even look um I had to get a store room unit let me just say that much for all my holiday decorations and I am actually

like officially starting a brand called the holiday junkie and it's going to be like like all of my holiday stuff because I'm obsessed. But part of the reason that I'm obsessed with Halloween is it's Brian's birthday. So for us, it's like this big holiday, but it's also his day, which I think is so cool. So we really go over the top of it. His birthday is on the 31st? On the 31st. Wow.

And how old will he be? How old will Brian be? He's going to be 45. And I won't ask your age. I'm going to be 45 in February. Oh, so you're. But he's older than me. So boom.

Well, you look great. You look young. I still would think you like in your mid-30s. That's really nice. But we, you know, so Halloween, you spend a lot of money and now you're starting your own product line.

What is it called again? Hollywood. Holiday junkie. Hollywood junkie. Holiday junkie. What will you sell? Holiday junkie? Yeah.

So your own design? I've been writing cards with this company called 2021 Co. We have a whole like holiday line of cards. I have two big things coming out next year That I have to do with the holiday junkie get that I can't tell you about yet But I'll come back on maybe if you'll have me And yeah And then we're going to do like products and stuff

It's gonna be really fun I'm excited it could be pretty lucrative too huh I mean I think so it's just like it's my happy place So I just need it in my life to like you know give some balance Well you kind of do not you kind of do you do everything like actress singer book was in the best selling new york times bestseller list you're doing products you're doing it's just like and i've started doing that too but i i i do it and i think you do it like for this as well for this reason is is i do things like i'm coming out with a children's book

and i always wanted to make one and simon and schuster putting it out in june and it's really i might have to ask you for a quote on the back of the yes it's and it's just like look is it a moneymaker no but i wanted to do it i've always wanted to do it so i'm doing things i'm coming out with a pet product yeah you know and it's just called you know rosy something i can't tell you exactly what it is yet but um and i just i was working with my friend i'm like let's just do this this would be fun if it's not a big risk if it doesn't work oh oh well so i like i started it took me a long time but i always was chasing things that chasing after things that people

wanted me to do. You have to act. You have to do this. What are you doing wasting your time? And I'm like so I was doing things based really on what other people wanted. My agent, my business manager, even some friends. And then I thought, is it what you want to do? What do you want to do?

Well, I want to make music. I'm not the best singer in the world, but I can sing and I can write songs and I want to do it for me. I don't want to be a rock star or make millions. It'd be nice. But I'm doing it for me. Do you find that the older you get you start to do more of that. Yes, and it's beautiful. But isn't it frustrating that we wait so long?

I have this conversation with my kids all the time, eight and ten. And I'm already like, guys, spend your life doing things you really want to do. Like, spend your life doing that because you're happy when you're doing things that you really want to do. And I get it. Like, Hollywood is this very specific pocket of time. And by the way, people that said to me, hey, you know what, let's not go to college right now. You really want to go. I really wanted to go to college. And they were like, you could go to college and you would have an amazing time. But you're also like on this trajectory right now. Like just keep it going. Keep the train moving because it's Hollywood. You never know when it's going to, you know? And they weren't wrong about that. And I had a great time. But there's still a part of me that wishes I'd gone to college. You know what I mean? And like, why am I now at 45 wanting to do that? You know? Wait, you want to go back to college now? I don't know. There's a part of me that would really love to go to college. Why don't you do a semester? maybe I'll wait until my daughter goes to college and that way it can be like in the bushes

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will give you the energy to do the things you don't love and it will make you feel like you you know you're you're doing something for yourself so whatever that is if you always had a desire to build cars or whatever or paint or you know work with uh children or work with you know uh nursing homes whatever it is you know some of these things give you purpose yeah and and i think it's just so important and a lot of times look it's taken me i'm 51 now and i'm just like why is it taking me so long but maybe that's just the that was just my fate it was just like hey it's better to find it now than not finding it going why did i ever why didn't i ever why didn't i ever do anything that I wanted to do, you know what I mean?

But also the key I feel like is, like, I have, I have friends who are like, I don't know, I've been trying to manifest this thing that's not happening. Or I've, I don't know, I wake up and I say, this is what I want, you know, every day. And I'm like, well, question A is, are you grateful? Like, are you practicing gratitude while you're practicing manifestation? Because the universe will reward a grateful person all day. but a non-grateful person they're like I have so many people that are manifesting I have no time for you like I have to I have to move on what do you say what are your gratitudes and you do you say them every night or every morning so I've been doing this thing I was going to tell you today I've been doing this thing for 21 days now where I found like 15 affirmations I absolutely love and I say 15 of them every morning and then I say three very specific ones at night and I have been really like no matter what, even if the baby's kept me on night and I'm exhausted or someone I love is going

through something that's like really dark and crazy or the world that we live in, which is insane at the moment and has been for, you know, the last like three and a half years in so many different ways. I start with gratitude and I end with gratitude. And I really feel like, I really feel like it's just, it's just changed me, like in such a really profound, cool way. And so I highly recommend it for people. Like, just start. And gratitude is different for everyone. Sometimes it's my family.

Sometimes it's just being grateful that I can get up and move my body in the morning. I always say that I'm grateful that I get the chance to live another day because I really do feel that way. And then at night, I just kind of like thank the world around me for the opportunity to like all the things that I learned and took in. And I release any like negative or icky stuff. And then I ask for like a peaceful rest. And I get it. And it's been really great. No matter how tired you are, you always do that?

I do. Do you say it out loud? I do say it out loud. You know what? My kids have started joining me on the nighttime ones and they love it. Like last night, Atticus or night before, night before Atticus was like, can I say your affirmations with you? Will you say them out loud for me too?

And I was like, yeah. And so sometimes we'll do ones in the morning for them before they go to school. But they really like the idea of feeling like, oh, we can have a little bit of control over like goodness. and stuff that goes into our minds. That's beautiful. Yeah, it's been good. And get it embedded in them at a young age, gratefulness, because I don't think I knew anything

about that. I mean, I just, me either. My childhood was a whirlwind, so it was dysfunction and all the stuff around. So there was no time for, you know, thankfulness. And I didn't understand that or learn it. I just, I was just living in chaos. And at that developmental age, you know, whether it's four to nine or whatever, that little gap is that's when we really learn and yeah and we remember everything from around that time

and like if they were bad we don't forget them and if they were good we don't forget them so it's incorporating a lot of love and and a good feeling and confidence and things for your kids and I'm not a dad but you know if I ever had a kid I definitely would instill that that love and that gratefulness and those things so I commend you on that I think that's pretty good and it sounds like you learned it from your mom. I did. I did. She was a very grateful person.

Very grateful. Yeah. Yeah. And I think in losing her, I learned it like 10fold. Which has been a gift. So she gave it to me twice. She gave it to me once while she was here and once while she was gone, you know? You know, can I read this little post that you sent on Instagram?

Yeah. It was to your mom. And it said 11 years ago, my life changed in a moment. moment. We didn't get to say goodbye, but I think it's because we wouldn't have known how. I see you in my kids every day. I feel you in things I say and smile because I'm more like you than I thought. I honor you by trying to create magic for my family just like you did for us. I love you deeply. I'm so grateful you are a mom. This day will always hurt because you were that special, always and forever mom. And it brought me to tears. It was just like, because I remember what a tough time you were going through it was just an absolute shock and it's always a shock but for you is even more of a shot do you um do you still uh think about her all the time do you still get emotional about her yeah yeah i do i do think about her all the time it's it's interesting in like um so i i have I wasn't actually going to say this today, but I will say it.

I just wrote a book. Another one? Yeah. That will be coming out next year. I haven't told anybody. This is me telling people, telling you. And it is a love letter to my mom about who she was, who she was to me, all the things. But I also talk about losing her and how that sort of affected me in the early days.

of like having my children and um you know all that she's been left with all that she left me with um and so in writing the book i had to like really go into some like sad stuff um and some uncomfortable places and um and i was just telling my kids the other day they were like you seem um lighter about me me which is what they call her and i was like you know what i feel that way And it's like something about writing my love for her, like made me fall in love with her all over again, but in this, like, joyful way instead of this deep sad way. And so I will always, I always have this like little pocket that hurts, but it's lighter than it used to be 11 years later. And I think it's because I got to like just really give my love to her in this book. And so I'm really excited for people.

to read it. It's about the holidays. It's about, you know, being joyful in your life and creating magic and, you know, all those things. There's lots of light stuff in it too. But in the beginning, it's really just about her and how she's in everything that I do now for my kids and my husband and my family is to honor her in like a really beautiful way. So I'm in a really good place with my grieving of her because I feel like, especially in this last year writing the book, We've spent a lot of time together. And I've really felt her close and it's been, it's been really nice. That is, that is awesome.

Yeah. I think, you know, God forbid, if my mom passed away, I would probably be, uh, three pages, three pages of, no, I'm just kidding. But like, uh, no, I don't want her, you know, she's, she's, uh, you know, the thing is, you know, she always guilted me when I was young, like, you only have one mother. So I always thought, no matter how bad it is, I only have one. which is a complete manipulation it's like you know but what are the things if you had to sum it up like what are the things that have made you a better person that she gave you what things that she gave you deep gratitude for sure um i remember when we first came to l.A my mom was like

okay there's there's you know two things that i want you to think about like being a kid in in Hollywood. She was like, one is the second it's not fun, we pack up our stuff and we go home. That's it. It has to be fun because you're a kid and you should be having fun.

And so if this isn't fun, then we have to like forget it. And it's like, okay. Then the second thing is she said, I want you to look at your career as like that toy that you want from Santa

so bad when you're a kid. And then you get it and there's two types of kids. One will take the toy and break it the first day and smash it into pieces even though it was the thing that they wanted more than anything in the world. Or you have the kid who, like, packs up their room when they're getting ready to go to college

and that toy is still in a box somewhere because they took such good care of it, right, that they loved it forever. And she was like, you can look at your career and you can take care of it either way that you want. And she's like, but I really hope that you'll choose the kid who is something really proud to still hold on to, like years and years and years and years later. And I never forgot that she said it. And so that's what I did. Like, that's how I always treated my career.

I was like, okay. And I would always, like, even in my 20s, I would be like, am I trying to smash this right now, like that kid at Christmas? You know what I mean? I'm like, or do I want to hold on to it? I was like, okay, let's be, let's be calm. Let's be kind. Let's be, you know, grateful to have it.

And, you know, all of those things. So those two things definitely stick out. My mom also was just, I don't even know how to explain it. But like, literally everyone that met her felt like they had known her forever. they loved her. Like she could just walk into a room and people thought even, even though she was special to us and like maybe not into the rest of the world, people thought she was someone. Like that's how she carried herself.

She carried herself with this like presence of light. And it was amazing when she passed. I go all these random messages from people and like DMs from people. And I knew that they were real because they were like, I felt like I knew your mom forever. And I felt like I was a better person after I met. and I was like, oh, that person actually did meet my mom because that's just who she was. Wow. So it was great.

And so I try to have that energy. How lucky it is to grow up with someone with your mom being a role model. Like my grandfather was a role model for me. Yeah. But to have one of your parents as their role model and someone you aspire to, you know, to do good things because of. And you probably make a lot of decisions based on, you know, how would mom feel about this? Do you do that? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, definitely. Definitely in good and bad ways. You know, I don't want to make it sound like my mom and I were perfect all the time or like she didn't ever get on my nerves or we never had, you know, fights about things or whatever. But I was always very conscious of the fact that like people would always say, be careful. One day you're going to turn on and turn out like your mother. And I was, my reaction was always like, thank you. Yeah, good.

I hope so. you know. And, um, but yeah, I definitely, I definitely think of things all the time, like with my kids. I'll be, you know, or I laugh at like, oh my gosh, if my mom was here right now, she'd be laughing at me in the situation or how I'm going to handle this or like, what's going to happen? And, um, yeah, she was just, she was just tremendous. And, um, and I really feel so lucky to have had her. And I think in writing the book now I live more with her memory in that space than I do in like the everyday sadness space obviously on the big anniversaries and things like that christmas is really hard for me i always miss our christmas the most um and i you know i'll always

have those because like i said she deserves it she deserves me to be that sad about her because she was that special um but yeah i've been i've been living more in just joy about her lately that's great and that's been really nice and the fact that your kids see it is just like Yeah. All right, switching gears here a little bit. You text me this. Yeah. And we don't have to go into it, but I think it was pretty important to you.

You said a lot of stuff to say about aging. In Hollywood, they freeze us at the age. They feel we were our best, like we aren't allowed to grow past that. And that was very, that was very profound. And I wanted you to just talk about that a little because I know that it was important to you. Yeah. it's such an interesting so I actually it was actually Taylor Swift that said that I'm a Swifty um wait Taylor Swift said what I just said not not that exactly but she was talking about the

idea that like people freeze you like they they have this moment when they fall in love with you right as an artist or a creative or a celebrity or whatever it is that you're seen as to people and they they pick this moment and then that's who they want you to always be um and there's something really beautiful about that, but there's also something really not okay about that in that it's interesting. I don't want to say that aging is hard because aging is a privilege. It means you're here. It means you're still living it. It means your every line is because of a smile or a laugh you had or in my case too many crying scenes, which has given me like this like, I'm just always crying on camera. I didn't notice it. But I earn those, right? Like every crying scene, I earn those.

And so it's beautiful. But aging in Hollywood is really hard. It's really hard because you can't do anything right. You know, I had this thing like a few weeks ago, and this is what made me text you about it. I was getting my hair done. And I had not a stitch of makeup on. So I threw on a filter.

And it was just a filter that, like, at the time looked nice in the light at the salon. I really gave it no thought. And I put it on. And the picture ended up somewhere. And a bunch of people were like, Jennifer Lof-Hood is unrecognizable. Bombas makes the most comfortable socks, underwear, and t-shirts.

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And I was like, this is crazy, right? So then I did a bunch of like over the top, like crazy filters on my Instagram. And I was like, all natural, no filter, like trying to make fun of it. And then they came after me for that. And they were like, well, now she's just defending herself and like, why is she defending? And I realized I was like, I can do, I can do no, I can do the right. And why are you focusing so much in these assholes who have nothing better to do than to, put you down because to pretend that we don't is a lie i know i know i know we're human and

yes they're known as haters and they're known as people who like you're just supposed to turn your comments off and you're supposed to but it's human nature to be like what do people think about me i've been an actor for 36 years you know this like you're the same way it's like you don't want to care what people think about you but you have to care what people think about you you You want to know what's out there. And I will say the majority of people have been very kind to me. They've grown up with me. They look like I do now, right?

We're all getting lines and maybe in menopause and who knows what else is coming for us, you know, about to get a colonoscopy. Like, we're all there. I got one too. And it's beautiful and it's weird. And, you know, we're all doing it together and it's fine. But, like, there are those people out there. And the only reason those people bother me is because I think that it is.

I'm a mother of a girl. And it's dangerous what we put on people. It's dangerous, I think, to say to women, you can't look like you're not 22 to me anymore because I don't know how to take that. Okay, well, that's your problem because I'm 44 and I, this is what I look like, you know what I mean? And so it just bothered me in that way that I feel like,

I just feel like we're an end by the way that whatever age it is, I feel like people, maybe these people, like, have picked, they seem to have picked, like, somewhere between 23 and 25 for me, which, by the way, she was a looker, like, congratulations to that 23 or 25. But I'm a different person now. Yeah, you know, and it's great. But there's also, like, that 23 and 25 year old wasn't in her body.

Like, at 23, 24, 25, I didn't feel self-confident. I felt watched. I felt like I had to be everything for everybody all the time. I was called sexy before I ever knew what being sexy was. I was 17 years old on the cover of Maxim. And I had no idea why I was on the cover of Maxim. I was honored and I loved it. But I was like, I remember doing heartbreakers at 23.

And the director was like, we just need to be sexier. And I had to pull him aside. And I was like, I don't know what that means. I'm only 23 I know that I'm supposed to be this thing for people but I don't know what that means and he had to like help me figure that out

you know and so it's weird for me when people are like that's the girl that we wanted you be and I'm like that girl was so insecure and had so confused and like trying her best but this girl who may not look the way

I like who I am I feel good I'm fine you feel sexy now yeah you should yeah I mean, not every day, but like, you know, I have my moments and, you know, there's definitely times where I look in the mirror and I'm like, oh, dear God, what is that? Oh, my God. Those are every day. And then there's other times where I'm like, oh, she got it. It's fine. But I, but they pick this age. And I love the Taylor Swift said it because I was like, she's white. Like they do. They find this little pocket of time and they hold you there. And I think it's a society or haters or, you know, whatever the small.

group of people are out there, I think we have to, I think we have to do better. I think we have to be kinder to people. And I think we have to allow people to change and grow and, and look different and just wish them well. Yeah, it's hard. I think that's why Ryan's here, but you can only hear him. You probably can't see him. But, uh, hi, Ryan. How you doing, Ryan? Jennifer Love wants to say, but today I walked in. I go, I don't wear this. He goes, you look, you look. You look. like you always do like you don't really give a shit but i'm like well i just i figure if i don't try and i'm a guy it's way different it's way different it's obviously it's not mean to guys too it is but like you know people are like oh he wears a t-shirt and he like you know just wear sweats

and just doesn't you know he's a dude and then whenever i do dress up or something it's like hey and i'd rather see that than to always be like oh but he's always and then they notice my aging more of I'm always dressed enough. That's, I think, where my mind goes. Plus, I'm incredibly lazy. But look, it is hard. It's, you know, how many times have we all sat there and go, oh, my gosh, what happened to them?

You know, and it's like, it's terrible. It's judgmental. And it's like, you know, I stop myself. Like, you know what? That's not cool. That's not cool. But a lot of time, the plastic surgery, it just is so, it's so much that you have to. It's not even being judgmental.

It's just being, you can't not. talk about the obvious and so you know what i mean and you know i what happens to with me is what upsets me is that it starts at such an early age now like people are getting plastic surgery in their 20s 19 20 and it's like you're going to develop more and you're growing into yourself and it's like this is your youth don't change your youth unless you have an abnormality and you want to change your knows because it really doesn't give you confidence or there's things out there i get it but the you know seeing it's such a young age people doing this to themselves and it's a lot of times it's not good work or getting their lips all blown up and you know you have to be really careful you have to be

really careful because it's it's it's hard but isn't it because of you know we see the best of everybody and we and there are so i mean the filters that are out there are so crazy i mean my daughter will play on filters like you know she'll play with filters and she'll be like whoa i look amazing and i'm like no you don't you don't look like yourself no take that off you know but then i'll use it but then i'll use that filter and then the world says that i'm unrecognizable and i'm like okay well you know it's crazy you can't win you just can't win but i do i do think that um yeah aging is weird it's just weird um and i think that we just all have to be kinder to the process.

But we also have to just let people, just let people age, however they age. I know that some are never going to eat. I mean, look at Jennifer Lopez. Yeah. None of us can do that. We can't do that. She's just, she's just amazing and gorgeous. And like, you know, everyone is going to age how they age.

Some people have better genes. Some people just have better genes. Like, you know, I wasn't born, like your husband, by the way, Brian, he was born with good jeans. He's a hottie. Like, I'm like, oh, my God, he's a hottie. Like, you, great jeans. You look fantastic. I would, no, I'm not saying that because we're friends.

I'm saying that you do look fantastic. I wouldn't, I wouldn't bring it up if you looked awful, you know. I didn't get this little thing. This little thing I'd like to go. No, no. This is 44 for you. You know what? You don't even see that.

You know, and when you're on film, you hope you see it on camera when I cry on 911, all you sees this little like by the way on 9-1-1 when you're the operator right you're the operator the emergency operator at this point with all your lines can't you just put the lines in the screen and not have to memorize them I would yes yeah you don't need to do that because you're reading them as they get printed out or they're right well some yeah some of some of it's up there because of the things and then some of it's not because they change they have to you know they they're constantly like rewriting or they'll do my part before they do the emergency or they'll do the emergency before they do my part so it's all kind of but yeah i mean it's

you know you're able to you know kind of for the phone calls and stuff like that it's actually quite helpful because they will actually run the phone call up there for you so that you can you can react as if you would if you were hearing it yeah i pulled the brand do a few times i would have like lines written in a book or i'd have i have the prop guys i go hey listen when i'm reciting that alexander the great thing make sure it's in this book right here on this page at this height so it looks like I'm reading it or it looks like I'm always on criminal minds um when I was pregnant in real life I like literally my brain is just gone like I just it's like a thing when you're pregnant like you just don't remember anything and so I would I would write some

of my lines like in the files I would be on the plane I'd be like oh suspect is a really and he's you know yeah I would laugh and I'd be like guys I have there's like literally nothing happening upstairs. I'm sorry. I worked with an actor once who taped his lines for his coverage on my forehead. I actually put my lines for another actor's coverage who was a guest star and I said, we always do this. We didn't. But I was like, we always do this.

I put him on there on here and he still fucked it up. I was like, Jesus, dude, just read the fucking lines. Dude, it's too small, mate. It's too small. I can't read the lines on the sheet mate. Would you like me to write them out? Well, screw us when we get older, right? And we'll be like, huh? Yeah.

Be like, can you step back further i think everybody should have earwigs that's what i think i think we should just i can't do no no have you have you tried it i've had to do those like when i'm singing and stuff before and it drives me insane i can no no but these are really tiny and they fit in your ear they're really but we still learn our lines that's our job yeah for you sure um is 9-1-1 how many years have you been doing this now uh six five or six is it fun or is it feel like it's just sort of like for me after season four five it started to like go okay this is redundant i'm doing the same thing. I know what I'm doing here. It's kind of a, or does it get, because you have a

complicated, you know, character and relationships and stuff like that. So is it something that you truly enjoy still doing or you're like, you're ready to move on to the next thing? You know, I do still enjoy doing it. I love the people. I've been very lucky to have this job. It sounds awful because it was so much work. But like, my character started off so, in so much turmoil and so much drama and so much trouble and everything that it was so fun to play but then the audience really wanted her to get like happy and kind of normalized again and that part is hard for me because I really liked I really liked playing I really it was the one of the first times that I didn't have to just play like the happy sweet nice girl you know what I mean

and so I I miss I miss Maddie's turmoil a little bit which sounds awful to to say because you should want for you know people to be happy and and joyful um but i do miss her turmoil a little bit so um it's it's still an amazing job that i love doing but i do miss i do miss that so i'm i'm always like can we do something get messed up again like she screw up another 911 call and it be her fault and then she has to report to the you know yeah something i told her i told her to get the gun and then she shot herself. It was my mistake. I don't know what I was thinking. And then you go into alcoholism and have to go to AA and you're really upset about this and you visit the mom. I love how her issues

always come up. And we have done like last season was sort of an issueless season for her. And so I'm hoping that in this next one, maybe we can, you know, they can come back again just just a little every now and then because it's fun for me. They're hard days when I have to do all that, but I secretly love it. Ever wonder how dark the world can really get? Well, we dive into the twisted, the terrifying, and the true stories behind some of the world's most chilling crimes. Hi, I'm Ben.

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And then I feel like I'm ready for like my Christmas movie era. Wait a minute. You want to start doing Hallmark? I mean, I don't know. Like lifetime. Like I don't know. I just have never. And you love Christmas.

I've never done the Christmas thing. I have so many friends that have done those and they love them. I want to do it. Erica Durant. Amanda Kloots, like, they love doing them and it's fun and you could write your own if you want and you could produce and you could do all that. You know. So I'm ready to step into like my Christmas movie era too. And I feel like some of my friends are like, no, that's what happens when you're in your 40s and you go do Christmas movies.

And I'm like, but I am in my 40s and I want to do Christmas movies. So I'm kind of looking forward to doing something like that, maybe after 9-1-1 to kind of, you know, feel. like emergencies and then joy well i can't maybe think about like if you do a christmas story maybe i'm your alcoholic brother why don't you come direct a why don't you come direct a christmas movie i would do that if you were in it i would do we'd have a blast that would do that i would do it if it was fun and it was like you know just for yeah would you be like the the guy in a christmas movie i'd like to be the alcoholic brother that kind of gets a shit together that's not that's not done a lot No, I'm kidding.

I could be, how about the guy that you don't think she's going to end up with? Like the guy that, the delivery guy. I'm delivering Amazon all the time. I'm delivering Amazon packages all the time. And I'm just like, hey, great. And you're like, hey, would you mind putting that out there, blah, blah, you know, I'll take care of that for you. I'll do that. Hey, you look really nice today, Mrs. Johnson.

And, you know, all of a sudden, you're like, he's really nice and he's cute, but he's the delivery guy. I don't know if I can. And then I say, you know, I'll take. you know i'm actually a millionaire i just do this for fun we should hang out i'm reconsidering i'm reconsidering my offers yeah it's a bad idea i've really blown it i'm not sure i'm not sure have you ever seen a christmas movie uh christmas story um christmas vacation i i haven't seen it any lifetimes yeah you got you got to you got to watch like the like you know send me one send me one that you think is good you should watch amanda's it's great oh i

did see some of that. I liked it. She did a really good job. Fit for Christmas. Yeah, she's great. That's right. I did see that. That was good. It was amazing. And also my friend. So proud. Amanda's fantastic. Wait, didn't you introduce me to her? Yes. Yes. You did. She's my neighbor. We become good friends. Yeah. Yeah. You're just a, you know, how do you do it? She'd become friends, but that's okay. Do you still, do you, bastard? Do you still get anxiety? Do you still get depressed? Do you still go to therapy? Yes.

Yes. Yes. And yes. Yeah. I do still get anxiety. I will say the affirmations have been helping a little bit. And I'm going to give you, oh, I have to tell you this because you will love this and you will use it. You're like one of the few people that I know that will actually use it.

This amazing woman that I know, Carol, she's like a healer. And she's just amazing. But she's also been one of my like really close. friends for 20 plus years and um she's taught me this new thing that when anxiety or fear comes up she will just text me and say sit with me under the tree of no doubt and the tree of no doubt it's just it's all goodness like every branch carries possibility of no doubt like joy love whatever it is in your mind um every Everything works out in your favor.

The universe always provides under the tree of doubt. Text me that. Text me that. Yeah, I will. I will. And it's really beautiful. And you can use it any time that you want. And so I've been trying to do that lately.

Like if something creeps in, I don't wait for it to kind of build or, you know, I don't kind of force myself to be like, let's sit in this and see where this is. I'm just like, I'm not. I don't want to be in that space right now. And so I'll either text you're back and say, hey, meet me under the tree of no doubt or I'll just in my mind picture this like whatever this tree is for me. And I'll just sit there for a second with my breath and good thoughts and like just kind of letting go of the stuff that was starting to sort of come up. And I feel so much better. So I am gifting you the tree of no doubt.

You can sit with me there anytime you want. And I can text you that I'm doing that. You can text me and say sit with me under the tree of no doubt and I will sit with you. It reminds me of that song, remember the movie Over the Top with Stallone? Yes. And that song, Meet Me Halfway Across the Sky, but sit with me under the tree of doubt. That's what I'm thinking. I'm going to do it.

You should write a song. Sit with me under the tree of doubt. That'd be a good title. No doubt. Of no doubt. That's what I meant. But I would call it the tree of undoubt. Oh, I like that.

The tree of undoubt. kind of like that um if you could do any of the movies or shows that have passed that you've done you see these reunions you see all these people getting together for another episode i think seinfeld's doing another episode yeah so it's crazy would you do revisit party of five no i would go back to ghost whisper you love that show and that lasted what eight years i loved it yeah it was it was one of my favorite jobs Melinda Gordon hands down one of my favorite characters that I've ever played, if not my favorite to date. And yeah, I would love to do it. But nothing else. What about I know what you did last

summer. Would you make an appearance if they did a third one? 100%. You would. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You love those movies. I love making those movies. I mean, but talk about like people being like, well, she doesn't look 18 anymore. But I would do it. But look at Nev Campbell. She's doing a new scream and they're all older. Amazing. She's amazing. She looks amazing. I just hung out with her a couple of weeks ago for the first time. She didn't know that I was a big fan.

And some of the guys from Scream, I'm friends with like Skeet and Matt, they introduced me to her. And I sat next to her, you know, we were at this restaurant. We just all hung out. And she was the funniest, sweetest, like just

one-liner, cool. Do you know her? I do just I mean I was really young when we did party of five but but yeah I always enjoyed like spending time with her and she was just she's just a cool person she was always really cool and always very funny she thought that I was a major dork I think because I was a kid but but yeah we she was just great wait how many years older is she than you uh she's probably no not that much she's probably my age she's probably 15 but because I started that show when I was 15 so like an 18 year old was like older. to me you know what i mean right and you weren't even supposed to be you weren't even a regular until season two you did it like a nine episode art yeah i was just supposed to be on for nine episodes and then it kind of kept going yeah was it a great time in your life oh loved it loved it scott wolf the dreamiest i mean i got to be scott wolf's girlfriend on tv i mean as a as a real-life teenager i got to pretend that guy was my boyfriend was he not the nicest sweetest raised so well i to this day I feel the joy and the kindness just coming out in his texts.

Oh, he's, he's, yeah, the kindest, sweetest, he, yeah, we just had, we just had a blast. It was, it was so fun. Do you, you know, I want to ask you this, and then we'll get into the shit talking questions. Oh, fun. That are fun. But I always loved hearing you sing. I always loved, you know, I always joke about it, but I love that song, Bear Naked, and I loved a lot of your other songs. And I always thought you had such a wonderful voice. Have you ever thought of making a new

album just for you, just something that because you love music or is it something that I don't really want to do it anymore? I do think about it all the time. Yeah, I do think about it all the time. I don't know how to do it. Like just for me, you know what I mean? Like I would have to, maybe you could tell me how to do that, like to just write songs and like put them out and, you know, whatever um but uh yeah i would i would love to do that at some point i just haven't i just haven't done it what if i wrote a really good song a little duet with us yeah on my album would you would you consider it 100% because i wrote a song but i didn't think of you because i didn't think you do it and you're busy and your kids oh because you didn't think of me well well i would have but it's

called the let the connections oh the connections got no i just was like she doesn't want to do this but like you know i'll write something if you you end up wanting to do it or not, but you could always write it with me. But I wrote a song called The Letter on my last album or the second to last album on Sunspin. And it's a little duet and it's a little countryish. And it's really cool. I love it. It's one of my favorite songs. But my friend Emma recorded with me and I'm like, you would have been great. But I would love to do some kind of like little duet. I would love to do that. Always think of me. Yeah, I would love to do that. I will think of you. Thank you. Remember that song? You'll think of me. Who is that? Keith Urban.

Oh, Keith Irby. I love Keith Irving. Wait, do you like country music? Yeah. Country guy? Yeah. That's awesome. I like old country.

Eddie Rabbit, Ronnie Millsap, Alabama. I'm starting to like the Judd sisters. Yes. Some of their stuff. I'm like, wow, they're actually really good. I never really listen to them. A little Kenny Rogers, little Dolly. A little.

Who doesn't like Kenny Rogers and Dolly? The best. Yeah, the best. What's your favorite? band of all time my favorite band of all time journey what's your favorite song from journey i mean probably don't stop believing you don't like sender my love no i love all of them i love all of them but if i had to pick a favorite like go-to what's what's the one song you'd sing besides what's the one 80 song go-to for karaoke for you i don't know if it's 80s but um

What is the, oh my gosh, now I'm blanking on the song. Don't say Harry Stiles. Is it, it was missing you? John, wait. Yes, was that 80s? I ain't missing you at all. That's my jam. Do you know who she went out?

We should remake that song as a duet. I would do that and there's a song. Let's do that. On the telegraph tonight, I ain't missing you at all. Yes. That's a hard one to sing. Yeah. No, it's not.

Every time. I think of you I always catch my breath and I hope it's good breath because I'm a breath guy and I want you I love that song I'm wondering why you left

See you can just hear it You got to sing again I'm writing a song for us Okay, do it I am This has been a joy Thanks for opening up about your mom About Hollywood, about life

I'm so glad you're taking care of yourself You look great I love the gratitude I'll meet you under the tree of undoubt. I can't wait. And I will sit with you, promise you'll feel better. Sit with me.

I need it. And I love you. I can't wait to hang out with your husband. That was weird. I love you, too. I love you, Hewitt. If you're even listening to this, Hewitt, who calls you Hewitt?

Hey, you know, Hewitt? Or is it, J-L-H? What? Would it be to love Hewitt? Thank you, love Hewitt. Thank you, love. I want to thank you love for them. Do you remember?

But Love Hewitt sounds like a guy who played bass in the 70s. Now batting, third baseman, Love Hewitt. And that. Here's the pitch on the way in a bass hit by Love Hewitt. He's going to try for two and he's out. Love Hewitt. At the bottom of one, all right, there we go. The lesser known Mets player.

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I don't know what to tell you. Sorry. If you give up on a podcast, what else are you going to give up on in your life? We still love you anyway. That's about it. That's all I got, guys. I hope you had a great holiday. and uh from uh the hollywood hills in hollywood california i'm michael rosenbaum i am ryan tay as i'm here as well

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