Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Jensen Ackles Returns

Episode Date: September 8, 2020

Jensen Ackles (Supernatural, Smallville) returns to the show this week to give us an update on the ‘actual’ shooting of the series finale for Supernatural, while sharing his thoughts and feelings on the roller coaster ride that the last few months have been trying to wrap around the pandemic. Hear what it was like for Jensen to reflect on his 13 season experience on Supernatural during this six month hiatus… and whether or not he has another season left in him. We also talk about the new hoops everyone has to jump through in order to shoot, some on set stories from his time with Jared Padalecki, and what Jensen feels he has left to prove. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Ryan and I were just talking about how I choose to sing songs that are way out of my range, but for some reason I just like singing them. It's like that if you leave me now by Peter Satera. Love like all is love. You know what I'm talking about. I probably do, but I don't recognize it. All right, Ryan.

That's the singing. How's your week, bud? Fine. How's your week? Well, I wasn't going to bring it up, but I figure, you know. Well, don't then. Well, you know, I woke up this morning and I said, eh, do you need to talk about it.

I'm like, well, I talk about everything. I'm open. And maybe it's a good idea because it might help someone. And I'm not worried. I want to preface it with, Don't worry about me. Everything's fine. Good.

But I had a mole removed about two weeks ago. And what I do is I don't really worry about things after, you know, I just didn't really think about it. You know, they say, you know, if we don't call you, it's fine. So yesterday, you know, Jess is in the backyard with me and I'm on my phone. And then I listen to a message from the dermatology center. And they're like, hey, Michael, could you please give us a call when you have a a chance and I was like oh boy well so I called and long story short uh they told me I had

skin cancer what yeah I didn't tell you this before so I'm telling you on the air it's kind of freaking you out but don't freak out because it's a um it's weird when someone says cancer to you whatever it is you know I have people I know with cancer my good friend Preston who's been battling cancer and I consider that real cancer I'm like that's that's cancer that's you know you know he's he's been going through chemo he's been dealing with and I'm like you know skin cancer that's but then I've heard so many stories and you see people and a girl I know her dad's you know pretty much dying from that I'm like so I guess it's look they told me not to worry they said you know this is a more of a common one uh you know not a lot of risk and that's why I'm sort of

bringing it up, not to say I wouldn't bring it up before, but I think that, you know, why I'm bringing it up is just, I'm like, if anybody out there has something they're looking at, mine was on my thigh, and they're like, eh, it's fine. If you just go get it checked out and looked at and you catch it early, you're probably going to be fine. 90% of the time, you know, people joke sometimes, well, skin cancer is the cancer you want. I'm like, well, I don't want any cancer. I guess what it is, it's just, like, just being aware. I looked at my thigh one day and I go, huh, it's a little irritation or is that, what is that? A week later, it's twice the size. And then a week later, I'm like, eh, it doesn't look right. I don't think it's a big

deal. And I asked my friend Carrie, I said, Carrie, I don't need to get this checked out, right? She goes, I wouldn't, I would just get it checked out. It grew that fast? Just, what the hell? So I went in there. My doctor's really chill, you know, Dr. Rifkin. you know we should just take it rid of it it's not gonna cut it out it'll be nothing it's probably nothing I go cool and then they call and they're like

you know so they're gonna cut it out deeper they'll put some sutures in me sutures and you know they'll check the rest of my body and that's it so all I'm saying is I'm not worried they're not worried if they were worried I'd be a little worried I'd be like oh crap you know but they didn't say the big

M word you know like God God God forbid melanoma or something like horrible but again if you're like looking at your body and things are changing you do something you're not doing anything about it you're you're not that's not a good thing yeah well you're calm about it so I'm I'm not worried either yeah I am I am I um I felt like there was a calmness that when came over me yesterday when when they said it it was just this weird sort of like obviously people have all these different things and they're dying all over the world from different diseases and things so first of all when they said skin cancer I'm like

You know, you know, like, it's fine. But I honestly, it puts things in perspective. It kind of makes you think about your own mortality. And it usually takes that. Why does it take that? Why does it take someone calling and saying, you have this? Or we just got to get rid of to make you go, oh. So, you know, again, I really am mentioning it because hopefully my listeners are out there.

And anybody who's listening just here for Jensen Ackos, hopefully you'll like Vincent Ackles enough that you'll stick around because you like the podcast. But if they're listening, they'll go, you know what? I'm going to go to the dermatologist. So somebody might catch something early. So maybe me saying something might, you know, get someone to go in there. Because look, you think you're indestructible. I mean, even though I've had seven spine surgeries, I'm still like,

I'm not going to get cancer. My heart's good. My lungs are good. My lever's good. This is good. I'm not getting that. I don't really go out in the sun a ton. And I don't even know if it's from the sun.

Yeah. I'm going golf in the day. I'm like, it's on my upper thigh. It's apparently not from my son unless I'm golfing in Speedos. I mean, who wouldn't? I know. But anyway, that's it. So I hope you guys go out and get things checked out.

You know, I hear horror stories all over the place. But really, truly, I'm not worried. There's no reason to I know a lot of you are very sweet. And you don't need to say, are you okay? I'm thinking about you. This is fine. It's fine until it's not. It's fine.

Honestly, if I was concerned, man, I'd be like, holy bog. but it's it's absolutely fun this is just really for people out there I looked at your face and go wait a minute I didn't tell Ryan no he did not until in the air he goes what yeah that's a little weird what else we got here we got a great guest coming up he's been on the show before but he hasn't been on film

so we're filming him it is the very I think they're filming as we speak the final episode of Supernatural of 15 years make sure you tune in next week is Jared Padalecki is uh they're the two leads Jensen Ackles Jared Padalecki I'll probably try to get Misha again to come on and uh whoever else but huge show 15 years and they there's a lot of revelations uh here in these episodes I think you're gonna

really enjoy it I did I got something from it and uh there's a couple of cool little secrets that Jensen Dave Oldges and then Jared and uh I think if there were secrets maybe maybe maybe i mean the super fans probably know more what they obviously know way more than i do but uh i've known jensen and jared for a while and they're just great guys so it was cool it was cool talking to them i want to say uh hello to my patrons uh if you don't know what patreon patreon is it's uh it's amazing there it's just extra support for the show there's all different tiers there's things where you could ask me questions on a segment called inside of me there's uh what else is there i am shit talking you get to ask questions to the guests

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It's my point of you. You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. Dude, you look good, man. you too is that because you're you're quarantine now right so i am uh i'm officially back up in vancouver to finish the last two episodes of supernatural which is crazy 15 years and we had two left and and uh you know virus hit so they pulled the plug and said we'll let you know uh and so they've just let us back up i think we're the first warner brother show back on its feet um from the

from the from the big pause so uh but in order to do so we flybuhr which is where we film uh and the canadian government has the the quarantine act in place so you have to for any traveler flying up you have to mandatory quarantine for 14 days and that means like literally not leaving the threshold of your house like you cannot go outside for anything so I'm here figuring out how to use Instacart and figuring out how to use skip the dishes and every other delivery service I've never really needed to use before. All right, so this is crazy. So you do Supernatural for 14 and 3 fourths or more years.

This is the 15th season, right? And then all of a sudden you're, hey, two episodes left. We're ready. We've got momentum. We're all tired, but we're emotional. Let's finish these two. Boom. Go back to Texas, Jensen.

And you're there for five months. Yes. Is it hard to be? Are you, look, you've been doing this so long. Do you even get nervous in terms of like, hey, it's been five months.

I've got to come back and shoot the two most important episodes of the series. And I have a lot riding on it, or you don't take it like that. I mean, I've got a lot of mixed emotions about it. I mean, you know, rightfully so. You know, moving into the, the final two episodes it was we only did 20 episodes a season i like to say the season night episode 19 was kind of the season finale and then episode 20 was the series finale and

uh but as you know doing a 20 episode or a 22 episode or a 23 episode season like we've been doing for so many years you get to those last couple episodes and you're you're Tucker i mean you are it's a marathon and so usually what happens is they you know you work your ass off for for nine months and then the last few the last couple episodes uh are the biggest most emotional most you know action-packed uh crescendo of the entire season so it's like running a marathon and then they expect you to sprint the last few miles and so it's always it's always pretty exhausting and And I do remember having the thought of like, I wish we could like regroup and, and, you know, like have a little, have a little break, get some, you know, get refreshed before going please. And I did not anticipate a four and a half month refreshment.

I'm good, I'm refreshed. I'm ready to go. You'll get yourself a facial, relax for a couple months, do some stretching. I was, you know, in the beginning, I kind of looked at it at that. I was like, you know, let's try to find the positive, the silver lining here. And it's that we took a pause before the last two episodes. And hopefully we can get this pandemic under control and we can get back to work. And we'll all be fresh and right-eyed bushy-tail.

We can knock out season 15 in the whole series. It lasts a lot longer than anticipated. Now it's like going to be so different, you know. Yeah. They had to rewrite a bit of the last two episodes because of the quarantine and because of the pandemic and all that stuff. there's some things that we can't do that we were going to do. Like you and Jared can't make out.

Well, no, no, no. That's, I mean, we're hanging our hat on that. Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that Corona or no Corona. We're making out. We're making it out. But there are some things that you can't do. There's like some things that are your, they, are you, are you, do you have to distance when you're on set?

So, well, yeah, I mean, just the protocol now, uh, as I understand it is, you know, the, the, and this is another reason why it took so long to get us back up here and working, all the unions had to sign off on it. You know, you had to get the DGA and you had to get the SAG and you had to get, you know, the transpot and you had to get grips and electrics. And like everybody had to basically come together,

come to the table and sign off on these safety protocols. And I believe the way it's going to look is that, you know, all of these different, uh, crew are going to have there's going to be like little pot so you're going to have like grips and electrics in one you're going to have you know camera and sound in another you're going to have actors hair hair makeup wardrobe in another and they're not allowed to commingle you had they have

to stay separate which as you know is going to be a very difficult thing because yeah I can tell you how many times I'm sitting there on set rehearsing and I've got a grip or an electric you know over my head tweaking a like which is or someone's putting you fixing your Mike or someone's fixing. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, people are all, like, it's a very tightly interacting group of technicians. And so that's going to add, that knows how much time to production. They're also adding, I think an additional 60 minutes to lunch.

So it's hour and a half now, 90 minute lunches. Oh, my God. Just a social distance in the line. What about the days? Doesn't that make the days longer? Well, that makes the days longer, but here's what they did. They, I guess, maybe they figured out that working past 11 hours, your immune system starts to deplete. So now they want 10-hour camera days.

Hang on. That's good. Silver lighting. Silver lining for, yeah, for, you know, everybody who doesn't want to let, who doesn't let to work 14 hours. Who does? But nobody does. Nobody does. I love they've just figured out that, oh, maybe there's a compromise in the immune system after 10 hours of being on your feet and locked in a, locked in a lot.

in a soundstage with atmospheric smoke. Will that stick? Do you think that will stick even after, post, all this stuff, or we'll come back to like, oh, we're back to 14 days here? I think, I think the 14-day, you know, huge will be, we'll rear its ugly head eventually. Why are we the only country that does that? It's like, think about it.

Like, I just interviewed Bruce Campbell, who I freaking love. Oh, yeah. The best. Come on. And Bruce is like, you know, doing his New Zealand acts. He's like, no, my, we don't get it. He's like, when he's directing, He's like, you know, he's like, can I get an, I just need an extra hour. And they're like, hey, let us talk about it.

And they're like, yeah, yeah, we're not going to give it to them right. No, no, no, no, we don't want to go home right to a, to a night's, yeah. Yeah, sorry, Bruce. But I think they gave him an hour because he was directing, he was first time directing. And then the rest of the episode, they're like, no. But they say, hey, we want to be done at seven. We want to go home to our families. That's the way it is.

And I hear, like, a lot of places do that. But, uh, no. not here well i mean you know you've heard of french hours so i guess it's a popular no lunch right no lunch they don't do lunch they just shoot nine hours they you know i'm sure they bring out a cart of of cheese and crackers and wine and stuff at uh every three hours that's exactly what the french do yes we got the cheese that's hilarious you know what though yeah uh what was they going to say about that think about it how often during the day do you go well i'm going to sit at the table for an hour and have some lunch.

No, you grab a sandwich, you go in the back, you sit down, you have a sandwich, you look at your phone, you may be taking a nap. People have time throughout the day. Jerry might not be working in a scene.

You might be working. Everybody, lunch is always there. So it's smart. Fuck lunch. Let's work. Well, and that's, I would say,

I would argue that most people have breaks kind of built in due to their, whatever their particular job is on the show. There are a few people that really don't get breaks. You think about,

you know camera for instance like when they're shooting they're obviously very very very intensely working but when they're not shooting they're setting up the shot so they're so you know I would say camera doesn't have a whole lot of time obviously the DP DP's got to be there setting everything up and then when we're shooting he's got to be there making sure he or she's got to be making sure that the shot is is still lit properly so I'd say there's a few a few people that do need built-in breaks. But for the most part, you're right. It's like you've got 10, 15, 20 minutes every couple hours to go and have a quick bite or have a...

And by the way, we do not starve on this set. I mean, there's constantly food at craft service. And then on top of that, you got catering making us breakfast. You got catering making lunch. And then in between that, you got craft service building in sandwiches, soups, with sandwiches after three hours after call and you got three hours after lunch you got hot snack what's your go-to like they know you you've been doing this show for 15 years so look you you guys are the leads you know there's certain things that you're like hey they know this is

what jared wants at two o'clock we're going to get them this it's not that it's high maintenance it's just like you're a lead actor you're working constantly it's like there's a certain system it's like a structure a routine that you know you're good they're good they know what it so what is it like when you get to set do they have a protein show for you, maybe some egg yolks like Rocky had. What is it? Yeah. So Jared usually always has this

breakfast burrito that's the size of a football. I believe it. It's a massive gut bomb. It was funny, and he'll argue this with me until we're blue in the base, but he's like, I don't eat breakfast. And I'm like, you have a massive breakfast

burrito, you know, the size of your leg every morning. He's like, yeah, but I don't get up. and eat that, you know, when I get to work. Because breakfast is right when you wake up. I guess, and I'm like, technically breakfast is the first time you're eating since you woke up. That's, you're breaking

your fast. But what about you? What do you get? So I usually will stop at my coffee shop along the way to work and I'll pick up like a coffee and a little breakfast sandwich, like a little you know, egg and cheese

sandwich. And I'll eat that and so when I get to work, I'm not tempted to go over to catering and order a giant football-sized burrito. Yeah, good call. Yeah. So I usually don't partake in breakfast at the studio in the morning. Sometimes they'll make me like a little, you know, a little breakfast scramble or something like that if I'm if I'm still hungry.

But most part, I'll wait and I'll get a good lunch. Right. They'll make me like a platter with like, you know, fruits and vegetables and some some deli slices and some cheese and some hummus or whatever they you know they mix it up for me what's a no no though what's what do you know that if you eat it you're going to be tired it's going to put you in a crash what do you stay away from throughout the day so you have the energy what do you what do you what do you eat and what do you don't eat not eat i try to stay away from like the donuts the heavy sugary stuff that because that'll feel good for you know five minutes and then you're

going to be like i'm going to be in my trailer sleeping for the next hour right what about steak Steaks not good during the day, is it? Hard to digest. Not really. I mean, if they, like, during the, you know, at lunch, if they're making steaks and stuff, I'll have them cut me a little, a few bites. But I'm not, I'm not eating big meals throughout. I'm eating kind of like, you know, low portions consistently throughout the day.

Every hour or so, carrots, fruits, little deli snack. Yeah, a little granola, you know, just kind of, just keeping myself sustained. so that I'm not, you know, I'm not overeating or I'm not, you know, crashing. Have you ever had any kind of issue where you're like somebody ever came up to you? Because, you know, women have had this for a very long time. I'm sure guys have had it too. But where the producer comes up and goes, hey, Jen, so we noticed that you've either lost a little weight or you've gained too much weight. Have you ever had that?

I haven't. I've had, you know, my makeup artist or wardrobe gal mentioned something. like, you know, you're looking a little skinny or whatever. I'll be like, yeah, yeah, just trying to lose a little around the middle. But it's never been, it's never been to a point where they're like, then, yeah, they never had to call. We're closing down. Go back to Texas for another five months, Jensen.

Yeah, if anything, I think, I think Jared's probably fluctuated a little bit more than I have throughout the years. He's, you know, depending on what supplements he's taking. I don't know what he's training for. Do you think there was in the beginning when you first started? Because I'm sure you went through. I mean, when you're with each other for 15 years, you're not only, you're family. I mean, you really become family and friends.

But like with that, I mean, I know, look, I've lost my shit on Welling before on Smallville. I've lost my shit with people because I hang out with them more than I have my own family. So was there ever a time where you're like those moments where I like this guy, I like this guy, I like this guy. I really don't want to see this guy for the next few weeks. And I like this guy again, all right, he's better now. You guys going up and down thing, or is it just kind of like, oh, I love him. And he doesn't annoy the shit at him here. You annoy the shit at him.

I would say, I mean, certainly over 15 years, there is the, I don't need to see him right now. Sure. I'm not knocking on his door the first thing in the morning. I know I'm going to see him in 10 minutes anyway. Right. I'm sure he's done the same way. I just sleep. I missed you.

You know, but I will say for the, the. massive majority of our time we are buddies hanging out and it's you know we have I think I think it's been one of the greatest successes of the show is how well and how consistently we've gotten along both on and offset and Misha are you tighter with one of them or they just both equally kind of your guys no he kind of rounds he kind of

it's interesting he adds this perfect like extra extra trifecta layer you know and And it's, I think we all get along and all have, you know, I've got, I've got my friendship with Misha, and Jared's got his friendship with Misha, and then Jared and I have our friendship. And, but then also we have this kind of triangular, uh, uh, relationship as well that, that just works. It works on a public forum and it works in a private forum. Who's got the shortest fuse on set? If someone's going to snap, who's going to be?

Oh, Jared. Do you guys enjoy watching this? Like, do you look at each other like, you know, there he goes. I have literally fire started and lit his views so many times just to sit back and go. What is it you do? Is it things like, because Welling would do, he would do that to me.

And he would also be in a- I know, I know Welling would do that to you. Fucking asshole. He would sometimes, he'd be in a pissy mood. And for some reason, if I came in and I was a pissy mood,

it'd make him happy. He would suddenly get out of the bad mood. He'd love seeing me lose it. What are we doing? Why are we filming? They told me to come to sit at a rush, to set him late. And then, well, I'll turn around while he's got his hand up to his face, he's like, fucking

like, you know, but. I would say, generally, Jared and I's frustrations are very much in line. So if something is not working or something is just seems off or it's, it's frustrating. I will either quickly bring it to his attention or he'll quickly bring it to mine. And then, uh, depending on the, the, the, the, severity of it I also know where this could go either he's going to get wound up and head you're going to roll uh or I'm going to diffuse a situation and and cooler heads will prevail and we'll you know we'll move past it um very rarely do I get tuned up and have to or do I

get wound up and have to tune somebody what's an incident where Jared would have probably have been like, wow, Jensen's going off. Like Jensen never, he's even killed, he never loses it. What's the one moment? I could see it. You remember it. No, well, I'm trying to think. There's been a few over the years where he surprisingly just

got to sit back and watch me go although, you know, he's he is the type and he's the good friend that he is. You know, he's right there behind me to throw in the insults as well. So, uh,

there, There have been a few. We've had some guard changes in certain positions over the years, and those people in their authoritative position would maybe treat people that we have a very close relationship with that are underneath their position, and we would start hearing that they were getting treated less than they should. And so we would then have to put on our producer hats that we actually don't own.

and uh and go and go and go set some people straight on the kind of behavior that is expected on this set and what's that noise what's that noise let me get rid of it yeah that's fucking killing me usually i don't hear anything so i don't even know how i had my uh dishwasher telling me that dishes are dry okay well tell you can tell you once yeah tell me once i don't need to know it would have been perfect time you're like that's enough dishwasher so you so so so So someone is not getting treated as fairly because someone of a higher importance, whatever the hell. I don't know. You know what I'm saying.

They're just getting that. So you guys step in and sort of, and you probably hate that. You're like, shit. Now we have to. Because it takes a lot of energy and you have to deal with something. You don't want to deal with it. Now you got to deal with it. Yeah.

Well, I think, you know, Jared and I've worked very hard. We know that, you know, tone on set is a very important thing. And, you know, you've been around. you've been on enough sets to know that toxic sets are just exhausting to be on you know it's it's not fun the work's not fun uh you know everybody's walking on eggshells and you know the egos are flying off the hand it's like i like i don't want to be a part i don't want to work in that place toxic yeah you don't want that you know so we know that that we have a heavy hand in setting the tone on this set and he and i try to really uh uh do justice

justice to that. And everybody should be treated fairly. Best idea wins, no matter if it comes from the producer, director, or the PA who's, you know, sweeping up the broken glass. I've had my onset carpenter lead into my ear and be like, you know, it'd be funny. And I'm like, I'm doing that. So there's a, there's a very communal kind of feeling that we have on our set. And if somebody has, it's having a bad day or if somebody tries to wreck that tone and and be a shithead then we're usually

the ones that call them out and handle the situation. Right. Do you think after five months off in your head you're sort of like three months and you're like, you know, DeNeil? Your wife? You know this.

I'm aware. I don't know. Do you ever go, I could do another season? I mean, oh yeah all these months off i'm gonna call the producers and let's go let's get another one going that was the longest that's the longest uh break break that i've had in 14 years from the show that's what i'm saying by the way longer than the writer's strike in season three wow that's which was what oh eight i remember that yeah yeah yeah oh it was oh eight yeah yeah that's you know it's also the longest i've ever gone without traveling anywhere it's the longest i've ever spent it's the longest i've

ever spent consecutively with your family with my family consecutively um oh so yeah i mean i'm certainly you know certainly ready to go and refreshed and and you know

ready to get back to work but uh you know that the ship has already sailed on this being the last season you know jared's already got another show lined up uh i've got a few stokers in the fire so um you know we're uh we're gonna knock this out try to do it justice I've always

I've always thought that there is a possibility of you know five years down the road getting the call and saying hey let's do a little short order action for a streaming network and bring them back for six episodes that's going to happen the show's too famous not to happen right I mean they'd be silly I mean it's not like you guys are going to age that much in five years I mean it's been 10 years since I did smallville but you know I'm a little older but I you know Lex Luthor can be old

You'd still do it. I can still do it. I'm older. Like, I'll shave or, you know, whatever. But yeah, you guys could do that. So it's always there. It's timeless. It's something that you guys could do 25 years from now.

Hey, what's going on? Yeah, can you believe we're still doing this shit? Yeah, we are. And I do feel like this isn't like the long goodbye right now. You know, this is, I feel like this is a, you know, let's put this. Let's hang this in the closet for now. and we'll dust her off, you know, down the road a bit. Inside of you is brought to you by Rocket Money.

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Like, for real? Yeah, like really crying. Oh, yeah. You've seen him emotional. Oh, yeah. Has he seen you emotional? Yeah. I just, I don't know, I just thought that.

You know how my mind goes. I'm like, I wonder if they've ever seen you to cry. Like, I've never seen Welling cry. I mean, I've seen Welling a little emotional, but this was Post Smallville. And, you know, it was kind of a... I didn't think Welling was emotion. I thought he was literally built in a lab of... old actor parts uh well he'd like to hear that and he'd probably laugh at that he would laugh

you know i've seen him like a little emotional when it came to uh there was some personal stuff years ago i'm not going to talk about that but there was yeah there was like a moment you know i someone i saw him like a little vulnerable and like you know i mean he's he's like maybe he's like uh you know tough on the outside what a tommy boy to say with the m&Ms we say it's like you know they're really hard on the outside but really you know whatever you know it's like shut up Richard but you know it's funny because

and Bruce Campbell was talking about I love that you were talking to Bruce Campbell by the way fun fact for you yeah they were they went to him and I think only him to come back to play our father

because in the pilot episode Jeffrey Dean Morgan who we all know in love played our dad but he was playing our dad when my character character was six years old, right?

Jeff's only, Jeff's only like 10, 11 years older than that. Right. So he was playing the dad to young Dean and Sam. So when Flash, when at the end of the pilot, we go looking for Dad because he's gone missing, but we haven't seen what present-day Dad looks like. So they actually went out to Bruce Campbell to play present-day Dad. And whatever reason, they couldn't.

And I think that was the only, that was the only person that they wanted. Could you imagine going around a corner? Dad, Dad. And he turns around and goes, looks at him and goes, groovy. Groovy. He was the best. Hey, kid, you bring my boomsick. So, yeah.

So he was, but ultimately they couldn't, they couldn't make it happen, whether it was schedule or whatever. And so they kind of threw their hands in the air. They're like, well, maybe we can just gray Jeff up and have him come back. and play an older version of himself. And so ultimately that's what they did. And thank goodness, because there was, you had the continuity. And plus, Jeff just, you know, he's so good and knocked it out of the park.

So, yeah. But, yeah, old Bruce almost made it to the set of supernatural. That would have been nice. Let me ask you something with five months with your wife and kids longer than you ever had with them, really. Seriously. Not uninterrupted, you know, not consecutively in that, that, you know, that isolated. Is that hard?

Were you like all of a sudden, because that's the first time you've dealt with it, or was it, was, I mean, look, you could say, of course not. I love Danielle. I love my kids. It's not hard. It's easy. No, I think, look, I don't, I don't know anybody, and if they said that, I wouldn't believe them that they said, ah, this was a walk in the park. This was such a lovely experience. You know, it was, I would say it was, there were some beautiful memories made, but there, it's, it was tough. It was a massive, um, adjustment, both, you know, both emotionally, physically and mentally and all of the above. And it was, uh, um, But luckily, she and I have, you know, we've got a solid partnership and friendship and relationship that we just kind of, you know, got into a groove. You know, I got home and immediately the kids were not going to school. So now we were teaching them, taking turns, teaching them. That's what terrifies me. Yeah. So I would say there was some beautiful, there was some challenging aspects.

it but looking back on it i i it won't it will be looked back on fondly for sure yeah i mean when you teach the kids uh school how old do you have twins so i've got uh my twins are three and a half and then my uh my oldest is uh just turned seven um so she's going and she'll be going into second grade or would be going to second grade so we're finishing up first grade so stuff that you know that we can handle you know reading and writing and math and that kind of stuff like your basics All those things scare me, all of them. Well, and here's where I feel, you know, I feel bad for the parents that have, like, you know, ninth graders. Or, you know, eight or eight, ninth, ten, like, I don't remember that, like, algebra and trig and, and, like, all that stuff.

Like, I, I haven't done that stuff since then. No. So. So. I think they'd have a better shot. If we both were studying at the same time for this, I think they'd have a better shot of passing, honestly. Right. Right.

The same material. You know, the social aspect of, of, you know, the younger children, I think, is really what they're missing out on the most. But as far as the educational aspects of it, the curriculum that the schools are sitting home are pretty easy to follow and deliver from our standpoint anyway. But yeah, the older kids, I would hate to have to deal with that for sure. This isn't the last thing. There's a little.

This is only 30 minutes, for God's sakes. We're almost there. You know what I don't like to do long interviews. Obviously, I love you. I've known you for a long time. You're a great guy, but you're also on a show and you're a character. that people just love they all around the world it's just uh it's a and that's a rare thing that's a rare thing and i think i know some people some actors we all do it will think you know we got to prove

that we could do something else we've got to do this we've got to do this i'm like wait a minute wait a minute you're one of the biggest shows ever what do you have to prove what do you jensen ackles so do you ever look like i got to prove myself i got to write i got to do this or do you do things really because you just fucking love those things right Yeah. How many lotteries do you have to win to be considered success? Right. Are you pretty content or do you want to do more things because you just love acting, you love creating, you love producing, and you want to keep doing that? Or is it more like a balance? Like, I got to stay in the limelight, got to stay in this, got to be present, got to be relevant.

Do you feel any of that pressure? Sure. Sure. Absolutely. I mean, there's a lot of people asking me, you know, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? What's next? What's, you know, what do you want to do? um and i i i i i think i'd be uh deaf and blind and and insensitive if i didn't if that didn't at least affect me in some way or if i wasn't like oh yeah maybe i should maybe i should come up with a game plan but i've always been a i've always been a you know let's just see where the where the wind takes me you know let's let's roll the punches and see what comes down to i mean i'm not going to sit around and and you know wait like i will i will I will be active in pursuing things that interest me, but I don't, I try not to allow myself

to feel the pressure that makes, you know, because you can tell, especially with actors, when they're desperate. Oh, yeah. I can do that. Yeah, I don't care. There's a certain. Yeah. I think there's a certain odor that comes with that.

Yeah. And it's, if you can stay away from that, you can be content and still stay. confident and still push uh you know still push the the ball down the road that i think i think things happen for you um but like you said i'm uh i don't feel like i need to reinvent myself you know i've spent 15 years honing a certain type of character and and honing the skills that are needed to do that and tell tell story um so why not why not parlay that into into the next situation. You know, somebody was like,

what are you going to do? Are you going to, you know, try to do romantic comedies? You're going to try to do something completely out of the box. You're going to try to do. And sure, that all sounds fun. But I also know that I enjoy playing the type of character that is Dean Winchester, because clearly, because I've done it for 15 years

and I'm not, I don't want to, you know, I don't want to destroy that I want his legacy to be great I want the show's legacy to be great I've enjoyed playing a character so why wouldn't I want to play a similar character on a different stage right

so you know but at the same time it's like I don't know maybe something comes along and you know I get a call to go meet Chuck Lori and then all of a sudden I'm on a half hour you know that's I'm kind of I don't say oh this is my

lane i'm going to stay in it but i do also understand that the you know the the audience uh that has been built over the past 15 years is used to see me in a certain light and i'm happy to stay in that light as long as as as long as it stays lit see that's you know it's awesome because you're so you're so you're i could just tell you're so comfortable with yourself and you're so honest i mean obviously you're you know i've since i met you how old or we i was like 25 26 you were like 22 24 yeah 23 yeah it's just a good attitude to have and i think it's something that you know as i get older i just think you know as long as look again caveat if i have a family and i have to make money and i have i have to pay which i do i still have to pay bills i don't have a family i still

have to pay for my mom's shit but um you know i don't care what i do i will get i'll work at wendies i'll i don't give a shit i will work to make money from my family but i am very very lucky and I'm not you know I don't have I'm not I have a nice house and I as long as I'm comfortable I'm good and I'm not going to take jobs nor I think would anybody just just to work I want to work because I really love something and if I'm able to do that then that's a I'm very grateful that if I can do those things so all I say to you is like you could do whatever you want and there's no doubt that you could be on a show tomorrow if you took meetings with networks I know he's on a hit show he's got a huge following it's it's a done deal so i would just say man just

enjoy it and get the right thing don't jump on something else that you might because you got lucky because you love this series and it's a good series but you might not get that lucky again we don't always get that lucky again remember winning the lottery twice and i'm not giving you advice i'm just saying because you've had a more successful career than i am all i'm saying is like hey if you don't need to go do something don't do it because you're like uh you know it could be no man because the next thing just love it just love it and say you know what i'm going to have some fun well and that's i think there's a lot of pressure uh you know on me maybe it's from me

and from you know the people in my camp and stuff uh of of what that transition piece is going to be coming out of supernatural you know and i and i do think that that's that probably has a little bit more uh pressure on it than maybe what comes next down the line um so i i do want to be thoughtful about my next move just from a strategic standpoint, you know? Because I want that to be able to set me up for

something moving forward. Right. Whether it's a movie or a short order streaming network thing or a guest arc on an existing program or whatever it might be. But I think it should be something that that is

that the audience it's not too drastic it's not you know all of a sudden he's a serial killer yeah or in some like crazy period piece and you know is in drag

Mr. Winchester right yeah yeah yeah whatever it might be and but by the way that might be fun to do down the road right but I think it's important to kind of stay in the ballpark of where I've been really happy and successful for the past nearly two decades and then transition in a good way so that the audience is like oh yeah yeah yeah that makes

sense I like that I want to see him do that you know who did that pretty well was Nathan Phileon he sort of did yeah yeah I know I know Phileon pretty well and I've asked him I have asked him about that. And, you know, he's, he, he did navigate that very, very well. Uh, he's certainly someone to, to emulate. The only thing I would say is like, I know that a big part of this too is agents can be very influential in terms of like, hey, man, this is the time to strike. This is what we need. I know, but you got this producer. Because remember, they see paychecks. They get a chunk. So just, I, and I've done it. I'm like, oh, okay, I should probably do that. Why don't I didn't really want to do that. I didn't really want to do that. I guess I made him happy and I made

my business manager happy. So I guess everybody's happy, but now I have to go to work. And I'm not, I don't know if I really want. And I'm not that happy. I'm not that happy. But maybe you're just not all of a sudden. I just started with this new project that I really want to do. And I'm not available. Yeah. Just so, you know, I don't, I'm not saying anything. I just, I don't know, it is true. You got to be smart. You got to navigate all that. You got to understand that, you know, at the end of the day, you got to do something that, you know, that lights your fire. You came out with an album. I did, as did you.

Yes, I did. Yeah, I think that's the new midlife crisis go-to project now these days. You know what, though? I will say this. My reason for doing is I was terrified. I was terrified. And with that terrifying feeling, I just loved it so much that I was scared. But I was like, you know, I kept thinking, I don't, I don't have the chops.

I'm not a great singer. It's always just this, this, this, but do you? love it. So go do it. Who cares? Why do you care? That's that's bullshit. You sound great. Like I was, thank you. I've heard you sing before. I've heard you play before. Listen to your album. I was like, so bitch. Well, that's, well, that's how I feel about you. And I'm like, we say midlife crisis. We go actor or singing, but you know what? If you love it and you know what, you have a, uh, all I'm saying is I did it. And I didn't do it because it was like a, it was just one of those maybe it is mid-life crisis it was like one of those things like why why haven't you

done this oh you're a little too old now just fucking do it do it for you and i did it and i was so grateful aren't you grateful you i mean you've done albums and things like that but this is like i've never like i've never written and constructed one from the you know tip to stern you know right this is the first one because you've been on other albums like i have like songs and things like that and you're like and you sound great i'm like he should do an album so you did an album and how hard was it i mean it was not that not that hard at all it was it was it was it And by that, I mean, yeah, it took time. It took, you know, you had to commit and stuff.

But it was really fun. You have a natural voice, though. Like, I'm not, listen, I'm saying you can really sing. When I heard you singing in front of many people at live shows and things, I was like, I don't know if I could do that. It always scared me. McGensen just has that. I don't know.

You've always had a great voice. And so I knew it would be easier for you. To me, to get comfortable with something I've never had a lesson, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. But what's your favorite song on the album? oh gosh where hang on i think i've got it right here

well i got it right here i'm gonna play a little sounds of sunday if you someday someday dude radio company where'd you come up with that was it just a kind of a it was uh

it it there's a there's one of my favorite coffee shops in austin texas is called um radio coffee and uh and so i for i i'm sure that that like uh subliminally

influenced it, but also Steve Carlson, who I made the album with, he and I were talking like, you know, what kind of music we want to do? Because he, we're, our influences are across the board, you know. He likes to say it's from Motown to Metallica. And, and so we're like, well, we just like,

what we just like want stuff that, that is good music to keep company, you know? Like when you flip on the radio, it's just good company music. Ooh, radio company. Funny enough, one of my favorite songs is actually not even one I sing. Off my mind is just from a production standpoint, I think just a really cool tune. That's one of one of Steve's songs.

But also the one I like to sing the most, I think, would probably be Let Me Be, although Drowning is pretty much. this. The voice range here for you. Come on. I mean, good Lord, son. I mean, how did you to blow your vocal chords out? It was funny. We actually recorded vocals and the band all of it at one time. That's the way to do it, because it's a way to do it. energy when I have to sing solo after the band's recorded and they're all staring at me that's hard as very I found that the most difficult as far from a process standpoint that was the most

difficult was singing in a vocal booth with headphones on and a microphone staring at you and that's it I would get so frustrated like when I go on to you know we do these conventions these supernatural conventions I'll go out and I'll play with uh you know the band loud this way and is uh Rob Benedict's band and they come out and they do a whole concert Sunday night or Saturday night and and they'll I'll have some of the actors that, that, you know, want to come up and do. It's kind of like, you know, the last waltz, you know, they'll come up and they'll sing a tune or whatever. Right. It allowed me to come up and sing a few times with them.

And it's a totally different, like, that's, I mean, there's so much energy. Yep. Your voice is like, you know, the adrenaline is pumping and it's like your voice is doing things and it probably wouldn't normally do. And that experience, I'm like, oh, cool. I'll just take that right into a recording studio. No. Yeah. Yeah. It was just amazing just to be in the studio I'd never been in.

And like Jason Manns, who we love, I'm sitting there playing the song I wrote. And he goes, hey, what's that, Rosie? I go, uh, it's just this little love song now. I go, get in the studio. Let's plug him in. Let's do that song. We did two takes. And that was like my, I think my favorite song in the album was just impromptu.

Yeah, we had a couple like that, you know, that are just kind of like, it's just easy. Yeah, you're not trying to work. It's just really easy. And, uh, um, um, Come on That got on the show actually They used that on Supernatural Come on, oh, do you sound like you're like from the freaking

Van Zant from like Leonard Skinner and shit You know, they always say actors, actors can't There's some actors that can't fucking play music there's a lot of actors all of a sudden they just do stuff and you're listening I don't know what the but hey they love their different one I also think there's a stigma too that you know actors shouldn't cross over to singing yeah but why and I don't know why that is because you look at you look at singers and they cross over to acting all the time yeah or or or try to you know I mean Timberlake's done a great job uh you know there's there's there's people that have

had very lucrative careers in the music industry uh you know you look at uh Rihanna did that oceans eight was sandy bullock and all that i mean nobody bats an eye at that well how about uh guys actors and films the crossover now you could act in movies you could act in tv could do commercials you could be the guy who won the oscar for the drum thing j k simmons is doing those uh commercials uh yeah doing for the farmers insurance wins an oscar no one gives a shit just be good at what you do or enjoy what you're doing no one cares anymore you can feel like they're that's the last kind of stigma that's that's uh that people are a little hung up on as is actors being able to do because they think you know it's like a vanity thing it's like oh i just did you know it's like

oh it's like back in the day it was you know every actor had to be able to sing and dance that's right i don't plan on you know starting dance lessons anytime soon but i don't know i bet you could dance you know it's funny is this year no no joke you look this up after after we get off but I get a call from our showrunner, Andrew Daab, and he's like, hey, Ackles, can you dance? And they've thrown so, I give you the weird shit that they come up with in the writer's room, usually falls in my lap.

And they usually like to make Dean do it. So I'm like, well, what kind of dance? They're like, you know, like Fred Astaire. I'm like No Andrew I've never had a lesson I mean

Like singing in the rain shit Yeah I'm like I keep I keep I probably keep beat You know And he's like well You know would you Would you mind take it a couple

Tap dance lessons And see if we can't He's like I've got this whole dream sequence And I want you to go Have a dream sequence where you're You know like a singing in the rain type thing And I'm like like,

sure, why not? Let's try it. So I did like three hours of lessons of tap dancing lessons and ended up doing like this whole just like maybe a minute and a half, minute 45 second routine

tap dance routine on the show. And how exciting? Are you so glad you did it? It was, I mean, it was really, my thing is I get really like competitive with myself. So like I wasn't getting it at first.

and I like, I think I, I, the poor camera guys and stuff, because it was a huge, you know, camera suite that was on a crane and, you know, big jib arm and so it was a big, you know, and we did the whole thing. It wasn't like we cut it up into segments. We kind of did the, we tried to do the entire thing and like one swooping shot. And I think I, I must have done it like, like 18 different takes. I was like, nope, I missed that one step. Let's do it again. I think camera guys are probably, they are used to us going. No, one more. No one more. No, come on. Let's go again. They just, they might get. annoyed but you got to just whatever if you have any say like that like i'm you know i'm proud myself on i'm knocking it out in one take for most things uh but this i was like i just you know it was out of my comfort zone and i i i wasn't gonna i wasn't gonna i wasn't gonna settle and so i just kept i kept dancing kept dancing kept danced and i mean i must a i must a burn 10 000 calories that afternoon and that's when your makeup artist said you're looking a little skinny jensen i just tap danced yeah a tap dancing woman God Lord.

They're hard on the outside, which one. He's so rich. I miss him. God, I miss him all the time. There's nobody funnier than Chris Farley. I talk about it all the time. I jump into it inadvertently. What's your favorite Farley quote?

Oh. Would you call the U.S. Embassy? I don't speak Japanese. I say it live. Good Lord. I don't know. The one line I would probably use. the most, and this is something that gets thrown

back at me quite often from my wife as well. We use it on each other. Is any time she or I is going like, oh, wow, look at this desk. This is fantastic. I mean, you could put so much stuff in here. Yeah, anything you want to keep cold, Tommy. Which I guess is a Brian Dennyhy.

Well, no, but it's a Tommy boy scene. Tommy boy scene. It's like, yeah, yeah, anything you want to keep cold, Tommy. Can I take my blindfold up? I never told you to wear one. I think my favorite one is when he's talking to the girl from Married with Children. I forgot the actress's name. Christine Applegate.

Gosh, I should know that from the PM Dawn song. Remember, Christina Applegate, you got it going on. Why do I remember PM Dawn, but I don't remember Christine Applegate? I don't know. So there's a scene where he's... They sing a... Yeah, that's it. Yeah, Christine Applegate.

You got it going on. He's with David Spade and Christine. Applegate, he says, what do you want to do in your life? To Christine Applegate, he goes, I want to live in a van down by the river. And he goes, you can see he's getting pissed off. He's like, well, you'll have a lot of time living in a van down by the river when you're living in a van down by the river. The best is watching Spade try to hold it together through that whole take.

Just die. You're doing a little dummy roll? I can't see real well, Dad. Is that Bill Shaped on over there? That's the best line. Is that a milshakes me over there? I can't tell. Dad, I wish you just shut your yapper.

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I have a patron account. They love the podcast. They support it. They're amazing. They get to ask questions. Nico, is there a movie that you're excited to watch with your kids someday, but can't watch it just yet because they just aren't old enough? Yeah, I never read nor watched any of the Harry Potter's ever.

and I got so late in the game that I was like, you know what? I'm just going to wait until the kids are old enough to do that. And I tried to watch the first one this past year with my oldest, who was six at the time. And it was too soon. So I literally left the room for five minutes to go to the bathroom, and that was when Voldemort came out.

And then next thing I know is she's just like standing in the bathroom with me. I'm like, God, what? What are you doing? She's like, there's a really, scary man on the TV right now. I'm like, okay. And I came out and I'm like, good Lord, you're right. That has no face. Turned it off. So I'm

excited to start that, whatever that time is. But I, you know what her favorite two movies are right now? Princess Bride. Of course. And the original Charlie and the chocolate factory with Gee Wild. And that's creepy. Yeah, I know. I know. But man, G. Wilder's so good.

There's nobody better in that movie. I mean, that movie his performance. What does he say? I always forget it at the very end. You messed with my fizzy, lifting drinks, which now need to be cleaned and sterilized. Good day, sir. You get nothing. And he says, you're a main man, Wonka.

And then Charlie comes over, and Charlie puts down the everlasting gobstopper. And what does he say? And so shines a good deed in a weary world. That's just like, it's on his back. Yeah. Yeah. All right, little Lisa. What's your favorite

scene you filmed on Smallville? Probably when you and I were naked tied up in some dungeon or something probably yeah oh god I remember that that was terrible uh favorite scene I'd tell you my least favorite scenes was anything having to do with football and I love football but put not but I mean the fact that I was the junior coach it was so it was so bizarre yeah it was a little bizarre it was bizarre uh favorite scene I you know I I'm kissing Kristen come on yeah yeah let's just go with Casey I I mean, that's the obvious choice. Obvious choice.

Danielle, you won't get mad. This is years ago. He was a child. He was a child, Daniel. She won't listen to this anyway. She doesn't listen to you, does she? No. I'll tell her we're talking about her.

Myesha, with supernatural being over, have any interesting projects been brought to you? Can you hint on any? Is there anything that maybe you're kind of, you can't really talk about that's something that's your, that's brewing? Yes. Okay. Good answer. Good answer. Why say something if it does, then it doesn't happen?

Like, whatever happened to that 10 years from now? Like, I don't know. that's one thing I've done that early on is don't talk about auditions ever oh no no no my mom still asked me if I got private Ryan my mom it's on it's a classic now have you told her yes yes mom I'm the sniper there I am right there can't see me I died I'm one of those bodies on the beach Samantha K what was your favorite part about starting your own family brewery how is that doing with current world events good question uh free beer and a continuous supply of beer I can go to the brewery any time I want and get a beer.

Now, can you send that beer? Or you can't send that? No, because there's a lot of alcohol board. We can only, if we distribute outside a certain radius, then we have to sign with a distribution company. And that's like next level stuff. So you don't make cans. You just glasses of beer, mugs a beer.

We make cans. We make cans and we sell it to local grocery stores and liquor stores and markets and stuff. So you can buy, we have three flagship flavors that you can buy at like 52 different locations in central Texas. What if you just set me as a gift and then I Venmoed you and then I could just have like a classic addition of a Jensen Ackles beer, beer can. Yeah, I'd have to, I mean, look, off the record, you could probably just, anybody could probably grab a six bag off the shelf and then wrap it up and FedEx it to you. That's probably doable. Okay. All right. You guys know who you are. I live in Texas. Let's get there. Somebody send Mike some beer. Yeah. Nancy D., what's the one role you drop everything to play or the one

person you would drop everything to work with? Good question, Nancy. I would say there's some iconic characters that have really shaped kind of who, the style that I enjoy playing and the characters and stuff. You know, you think of Indiana Jones and you think of John McLean and you think of But a role like that, or working with Spielberg, Zemeckis, you drop

everything to work with those guys, right? Oh, gosh. Yeah, yeah. And even like, you know, Chris Nolan and like some of these really innovative, like creative directors now, yeah, that would be, that would be a game changer for sure. Chris, Chris F, what props from the show do you keep or do you want to keep when the show

ends? Come on, you have something. Yeah, I'm not keeping anything. But what's one that you would like? Warner Brothers, I'm not keeping anything, I promise. The car. But one that I might like might be some of the iconic ones like, an angel blade, or, you know, maybe some of the non-lethal weapons that we used. But I will say that the big one is one that I can share that I am. taking home with me and that was

sanctioned by Warner Brothers I'm getting the car. What? Have you not told anybody about that? I may have mentioned it but I'm That's big news. That's big news. Dude, that's incredible. Are you going to drive it? Are you going to keep it in your garage and just keep it there

for all timesake? My plan as of now is when we wrap up the show here in a few weeks they're going to hand me the keys and I'm going to put that sucker on a car carrier ship her home to texas uh and i've got a i got a couple of folks that uh that i'm talking to um is that your contract did you say i want that like it was what season did you do it uh i've been talking about that for two years now and it finally they finally added that to my contract this last season is there a double there is and they i think they offered it to jared i don't

know if he's going to take it because it's you know it's kind of beat up and it's i'll take I know exactly. I mean, he might take. I don't know he's going to do with it, but the hero, the hero car, the one that we're, the one that we always drive. Oh, dude, that's so cool, man. That was coming home with me. And it's, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to clean her up, but not change, not change anything. Like, but I'm going to, I might just, you know, I'm going to need to add an air conditioning unit because we live in Texas. I'm probably, I'm probably going to get some new speakers in a, a radio system in there that actually works. I'm blown away. I'm blown away by this. But everything else, I'm just, I'm going to lead the creak in the doors, the splits in the seats. You know, it's all going to be the same. Can I ask for one thing? Can I ask for one thing if it's still around? What?

I think you'll laugh at this and you'll be like, you know what? I bet they still have them. I want you to sign it with a silver sharpie for me and I'm going to keep them right there on my table. Your tap shoes from your tap shoes for the singing in the rain shit. I want the black tap shoes because you had to wear tap shoes. I want them. Is that possible? I had to have you.

Yeah, I can see where those are. That would be huge. There's a lot of wardrobe stuff that I, you know, they'll have a huge wardrobe sale at some point. I don't know when, but there's a lot of stuff that was built for me. You know, there was, there was like specific, we did a Western episode where we get sent back to like the 1800s.

We have to find Samuel Colt because he's got a gun, the bullets that we've got to get. So we can sit back in time and, you know, of course, my character goes full, you know, Dodge City, uh, Wyatt Earb style. And they give me, they, they hand make me this duster in these, you know, full on like period. So those will probably be for sale.

And well, I, but they, you know, it's, it's all molded to me. So I might have to, my, I might, that one might disappear. May it disappear. I still want those tap shoes. Last two questions quickly. Leant P. what lessons has this quarantine taught you? And Jerry W., who inspires you and why?

What lessons has the quarantine taught me? That patience is a tremendous virtue, and that depression is avoidable if you work at it. Are you saying, okay, that's good. Now, let me ask you about that. So have you found yourself a little depressed? perhaps a little anxious, and what have you done to sort of alleviate that? Sure.

So, I mean, there's, you know, there were days when you just kind of like, and this is when I was back home, not here. This is kind of a different situation because I'm at a 14-day quarantine with a huge light at the end of the tunnel that I know in now, now 10 days from now. Right. So that's a motivating factor not to get, you know. bored or disheartened, but, you know, two months ago sitting at home, you know, with the kids and hearing the, you know, all the bad news on the news and the record setting, uh, spreading viruses

and it's, you know, it's like a freaking zombie apocalypse on the horizon. Um, there were days and it's just like, I wander around. I'm like, what am I supposed to be doing right now? Like, I have no purpose. And then that's when you take inventory. You're like, no, no, no. There's three little kids over there that that that give you a lot of purpose pal so buck up and find something to do go teach that kid you know some math or go teach that kid or go throw that kid uh onto the bed and and and play with them and just make memories um you know go make dinner for the kids set them up in the movie room and then have a nice date with your wife in the kitchen it's amazing though when you get caught up and it's it's just not it's not that you're not grateful it's not that

you're not, it's that you get overwhelmed and you don't know why and you should have this anxious feeling and you feel like this sense of dread and you forget all the things around you that you could still do or still, uh, you know, and if you just get caught too much, I've done it, man. I, you know, I, you sit back there and I'm alone here, but, uh, you know, I go, you know what? My grandmother needs me. I'm going to call my grandmother and I'm going to talk to her for an hour on FaceTime. I'm going to start to do things. And the busier you get the way to keep yourself busy it just it helps but look we're a human it's like on this show i talk about anxiety i'm like you know stephen emel came on here he had an anxiety attack and then he came back and talked about it

it's like that's what we need more in the world to let everybody know that fuck man just because uh you know your favorite character on supernatural dean here is a successful hollywood star it has money and a great family and all these things and doesn't mean he doesn't feel doesn't mean he doesn't get anxious and lonely and depressed and like what's going on and talk you know so i think it's important, it's cool. You know, there's a, there's a very powerful scene in a very powerful movie that I thought about a lot over quarantine. Remember the movie that Hurt Locker? Oh, you're right. Yeah. So, I mean, you had this soldier who comes back from, you know, in between deployments and he's, there's this scene where he's walking down, uh,

the grocery aisle, and it's the serial aisle. And he just turns and looks at this just wall of cereal and he just stare he just stares at it because he's just come from basically fearing for his life around every corner

disarming bombs being shot at you know eating and drinking you know slop and you know just just in the shit over in Iraq and then he comes home stateside and it's just like you've got 47 different

types of cereal at your disposal anything you want and it's just this wall of of uh what's the word i'm looking for options or uh yeah of possibility yeah opulence you know it's like all this and i just that was powerful for me because it was like um it's almost like he didn't feel and i think this is the movie resonates i think because he feels like he's got purpose over there But when he comes home, it's like, and I think a lot of probably veterans feel that. And I think a lot of people are starting to feel that in quarantine. It's like when you're working, when you have, when you have worth, when you have purpose, when you have motivation to get up and you do some, I haven't set my alarm clock in four months.

You know, my alarm clock used to be set every day to get up because I had people waiting for me on set. I had to get out, I'd learn my lines. I had to read the next script. I had to figure out what I was doing. I had to go to stunt rehearsal. I had to go get, you know, a prosthetic fitting. You know, there's, you're doing things, you're moving, you're motivated, you're working, you have purpose.

And when you strip all that away and all of a sudden it's like, what the, what am I supposed to be doing right now? That's, that's a hard, it's a hard ocean to navigate. Yeah. But I think that's when you lean into, you know, you find purpose. And you look around you and you take inventory and you, You'd think, you know what? I'm going to call my grandmother.

Yeah. You know what? I'm going to go out. I'm going to take my kids outside and shoot some basketball with them. I'm going to call a friend. I'm going to find some reason to get motivated to keep moving to the next hour. So, you know, we deal a lot with, you know, there's a lot in the fandom that are beautifully vocal about their struggles with mental instability or depression or whatever it might be. And I've met a lot of these people that fight it on a daily basis.

And I don't envy that, but I'm encouraged and inspired by how they continually do that on a daily basis. And so if I felt like I've tasted just a fraction of that through the out of quarantine, I would say that what I've learned from that is that you've got to find a way to stay motivated and find purpose in every day and every moment. And that kind of gets you to the next moment. Yeah. And I also say that, you know, just thank you for coming on today and you being vulnerable and just talking about real stuff like always. It's just being real. It helps. It's someone out there is listening and saying, hey, you know, I relate or I get it or that's nice to hear and see what you're doing and what helps you. And, you know, it sounds like we all need routine, whether you're doing a TV show or whether you're watching kids or, you know, if you're watching kids, which is probably the hardest job in the world at home, stay home mom or dad or, you know, it's like, hey, wake up, do something for yourself real quick before the kids. kids wake up exercise find the time for you or you're going to implode it has got to be that time for you or it doesn't matter whether you have kids or a wife or you got to get right and i would assume i'm single but that's oh that's that was one thing that deneel and i do is we we

you know it's not even talked about anymore i know when she needs to go and you know go go out in the garage and work out or you know i need to get on the phone and talk to an adult and we just like hand it's just a handoff right it's like an unspoken handoff like i got i got the kids you go do what you need to do right now yeah well dude i love it man i love it uh i love talking to you i hope you'll come on at least once a year you know i just got to catch up you're just a great guy you're i've known you for a long time yeah it's it's a lot of fun do you want to say anything as in closing just to just i mean i'm sure you said it but just to you to all the fans out there to everybody who's who's watched you for

all these years and anything at all. I'm sure you've already said this, but... I mean, look, the fact that this show has stayed on as long as it has is because people have not just found us, but have stuck with us. And, you know, that is all the encouragement that I need to keep working as hard as I possibly can to provide the product, the entertainment that I can for people like all of you. And it is a gift that you have given me.

and it is a gift that I intend to cherish and to utilize properly. I had a really great Zoom call with Cory Booker, Senator Cory Booker yesterday. And he's apparently such a supernatural thing. He's watched the entire series twice. And he did, the second time he watched it, it was during his presidential campaign.

And, but, you know, he said some, he gave me some really great piece of advice. It's like, look, when I, you know, when I want to turn my brain off, I get to turn you guys on and just escape into the world of supernatural. He's like, that was a gift for me. And so the fact that, you know, that he even says that is a gift right back. So that Evan Flo is is alive and well.

And I thank the audience that has been giving me that for 15 years now. And I hope to translate that right into the next project, whatever that may be. By the way, I think that that's beautiful. And I think that, you know, all I can think of is like some of your fans. who don't really know me and don't give a shit. They're going to be like, he tried to get his tap shoes. He tried to get another car.

He tried to get fucking his beer. I mean, what the fuck? Is he just trying to get free shit? Come on. Leave me alone. I know what you're thinking. I like toys. Look at my damn place.

I just trying to get free shit. Yeah, exactly. Dude, I love you. This has been awesome. And I wish you all the best in the world, all the best of the family and the show. And everybody's rooting for you. And continue success, man.

And help. You too, man. Stay in touch and maybe let's talk after the show's all wrapped up and we can talk about the experience. That'd be fun. I love that. And I got something to send you to. All right, brother, man. All right, buddy.

Ryan, isn't it how awesome is that that the guy in his contract got to keep the car from Supernatural? That's pretty swell. Wait to you here next week when you hear Jared Padalecky that episode. He gives us some knowledge. He really opened up. Oh, there's some insight to that story. There is. And there's also some insight to other stories, things that.

He was just open. He was like, I never have talked about this. And then he talks about it. And I thought he was going to call me and go, hey, man, cut that. And he didn't. And I respect that. I like that. He's just to get the balls.

Thanks again for all the love and support. Rosenbaum and dancer, we're going to be doing another stage yet. We do them one a month on a Saturday at two shows, a 2 p.m. And a 6 p.m. Pacific time. And people are really gathering and enjoying themselves. We do zooms for tippers and things like that. So we're going to have another one soon. So we'll remind you that.

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thanks for letting me open up about my skin cancer to you. Yeah. I'm glad. you're okay yeah knock on wood man everything's gonna be fine it's just uh sometimes you get a call and you're like all right it's gonna deal with that and should be fine most of time it's probably gonna work out right yeah yeah so you can't worry about that stuff yeah you go golfing and you continue on your life life is short we hear it every day and we never listen until it's over so don't let it over yeah i'm gonna get off the phone now thanks guys Football season is here. Oh, man.

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