Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Justice League Reunion

Episode Date: November 10, 2020

The cast of Justice League reunites this week on the pod ahead of the saga’s 20 Year Reunion. Listen as George Newbern (Superman), Phil LaMarr (Green Lantern), Susan Eisenberg (Wonderwoman), Maria C...anals-Barrera (Hawkgirl), Carl Lumbly (Martian Manhunter), and myself (The Flash) discuss the impact and experience this show had on us at the time and for our future careers. The cast also discusses what it’s been like for successful voice actors over the course of this lockdown, with the pros and cons that come with it. Plus, we also get deep into the idea of handling loss, we tell some stories back in the day from in the booth, and we talk about the possibility of a near future reunion #JLReunion Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:09 It's very soothing. I feel like I'm at a spa. Oh, yeah. You're listening to 99.7 WKDQ. Hey, folks. It's been a long election week, and I hope you're feeling a little better. I hope you're feeling relaxed. I hope you know that the world will get better, and we can all get along.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Fuck. Hey happy election It was a long week man I didn't sleep It's been crazy Whatever side you voted for We're getting here's the deal We're all getting along
Starting point is 00:01:38 We're all gonna figure it out We're all gonna be nice to each other And that's just the way it is How do you like that? I hope so I have faith Because you gotta have faith Faith faith faith
Starting point is 00:01:50 The faith Gotta have faith Look you know what I always say Huh Well I don't know I'm not religious But I believe in God I'm just not religious
Starting point is 00:01:58 Right I don't, you know, believe what you want. I don't care. Whatever you want to believe in, that's you. I don't judge. And you shouldn't judge me. But you kind of think, you know, sometimes if there's a God, if you believe in God, and there's, you know, he created this wonderful world and this planet and this, whatever, the universe.
Starting point is 00:02:16 You don't have to get too deep here. We're not getting deep. I'm not getting deep because it's hard for me to get deep. But all of a sudden, if we're just destroying the planet, murderer, killing each other. and all these destructive things self-destructive if there is a god don't you think eventually he's going to be like fuck you fuck you earth oh yeah you hate them you hate them you're going to be mean to them and you're going to be mean to them and you're going to oh here's a virus what's that there's the plague here's the virus i think chucked a mediator us recently right
Starting point is 00:02:49 whatever it is it's like you know we're either going to destroy each other and the world will in someday or we're going to just say hey it's so much easier to just say hey you believe what you want to believe i'll believe let's just respect each other let's just and we don't and we just have to so i don't care who you voted for let's just figure it out it's it's what it is and uh that's all i'm gonna say right i'm gonna try not to hurry each other that's it man just just be kind try not to judge man i i think we all judge i do it i'm not going to sit here and preach to you we all we're all assholes let's just we're all assholes but there are assholes around us and you know some assholes are trying to help and some assholes are trying to kill us that's true hey thank you for
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Starting point is 00:06:26 Shout out to my boy, Spencer. Sorry, Spencer, too, but Preston. Preston Christensen, I love you, buddy. I hope you're feeling well and your mom too. I think that's about it. Why don't we get into a huge episode? This is, I've been trying to do this for a while. It's the Justice League Unlimited.
Starting point is 00:06:43 It is the original cast. We did it. People have been asking me about it. And so here today, Carl Lumley, John Johns, Susan Eisenberg, Wonder Woman, Phil Lamar, Green Lantern, George Newburn, Superman, Maria Canals, Barrera as Hawk Girl, me, Michael Rosamomomom as The Flash. Kevin Conroy is Batman. He's not here today, but you could listen to his interview from a month or two ago. He's sensational.
Starting point is 00:07:10 We read a script that I wrote today. It's going to be a lot of fun. Ryan, are you excited? I'm very excited. a role. You do have a roll. I have a line. You do have a line. Let's get inside of the Justice League Unlimited. It's my point of you. You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Welcome to the podcast. Listen, I've never interviewed more than a really one. or two people on occasion. So this is five of you. Which means you'll have to talk a little less, Michael. Which is, you know what? I hope so. But look, I guess the best way to do this is just get into it. First, I want to say, this is a real treat. We've been trying to do this. And as Susan just said, first of all, George Newburn, Superman, Philemar, Green Lantern, Maria Canals Barrera, Hawk Girl, Carl Lumley, Martian, Manhunter, Susan Eisenberg, Wonder Woman on the Flash, Batman, Kevin Conroy, I did him separately. He's busy as crap and not that we aren't, but, uh, we're pretty busy.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I know we all are or you guys are, not me. So busy. Well, either busy or bored, one or the other. He gives you the B. I'm something with the B. Now, Susan, you just said to all of us that it's our 20th anniversary of Justice League Unlimited. So we started, what year did we start?
Starting point is 00:08:39 2001? Yes. Are you sure? Yeah. For Justice League, not a, Unlimited. Justice League is 2001. Oh, was I a part of that? Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Okay. Yes. That was before you left for, you ran to Canada. I just wanted to make sure. You were part of it. You were the original. Oh, good. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Now, which means, Michael, you need to be getting ready for your Smallville 20th after that. Well, Smallville, it is 20. We've been, uh, before this whole pandemic started, Tom and I were kind of doing these conventions and doing these small little nice kind of a 20th. But it is. This year, I think, is, or is it next year? No, it's next year. Next year will be the 20th anniversary. Why do you know these things about me that I don't know? Because I drink less. Yeah, well, you know what? I'm not a big drinker. So look, how is everyone, we'll start out with Carl,
Starting point is 00:09:32 but how is everyone doing and, you know, holding up during this pandemic? And like, has it affected your voice work? Has it affected your work in general? It's affected everybody else in the world's work. So how has it affected you? Carl will start with you. I'm doing very, very well. I miss certain aspects of life pre-COVID, but I've also almost always been a little bit of a social distance. So in some ways, it's not that much of a strain. I'm doing a lot more writing.
Starting point is 00:10:10 I have a number of things that were pending that will hopefully unpen when things move on. But I don't really mind it. I feel like this has been an opportunity because at the same time COVID has been going on. You know, I was raised in Minneapolis. And the tragedy that occurred has been a large part of taking up a good bit of
Starting point is 00:10:43 my time as well. So it's been an interesting convergence and I have found myself with a lot to do. I love that. Carl, and it's, you know, we always think of you, we always talk about you because we're all little social butterflies for the most part. And, you know, and you were just such a lovable guy and so talented. And Andrea, whether I'm talking Andrea Romano, the amazing director who directed us for many years and many things or other people, it's just always like Carl, So great, but you're kind of like sort of an anomaly. I don't know. You just kind of, you do your own thing.
Starting point is 00:11:19 It's not that you don't love everybody, but Carl likes to do his own thing. Is that correct? No, I do. I love everybody. And this, when Susan just said 20 years, I mean, when I think about what has transpired in over 20 years, and I think about the number of things that I've done and the number of individuals and projects that have just slipped away. and I've completely forgotten about.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Justice League has never been that. I still can call very vividly moments in that wonderful booth with all of you working on those amazing scripts and feeling connected because for me it was always like theater. It always felt like we were working on the top of our intelligence and not holding back.
Starting point is 00:12:09 So much of that had to do with Andrea and the script, but it also had to do with this energy, which I still hold that for 20 weeks. Yeah, you know, it was a bonding thing. I've never experienced something like that where, you know, when you do a TV show,
Starting point is 00:12:25 you might have a table read or a movie, but I never experienced it with voiceover work. And, you know, when we would go in there, Andrea was very specific. She wanted to get in there and let us all get a feel for it. And it was just, you know, it was like an hour,
Starting point is 00:12:40 of reading the script and then getting in there and doing it. I think it really helped in it why it made it such a successful show, although we didn't last as many years as we probably should have. We can get into that. So, George, what about you? What have you, what have you been doing? What have you, has it been tough, obviously? It depends on what there's, I'm sorry, there's a leaf blower nearby.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Somebody is too loud and I'll find a different place. I'll just, I'll exit you from this whole thing. You know, we can hear you fine, George. Yeah, we're fine, George. Yeah, we're fine, okay. No, I'm, you know, it's been, it's been kind of in some ways really peaceful and a really great time to be with my family. I have a place up north and Sandy Nez
Starting point is 00:13:14 and we hung out for two months up there and got to be with my kids and all the rest of that. But now that I've been back in Los Angeles for the last two months, I'm really anxious to see people and be more social. I mean, I just, I am more social than I thought I was. I miss being near people and other than my family. I love my family.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Like in the beginning, it was like the whole Zoom thing, right? Everybody was Zooming and we're having Zoom dates. And within a month, I don't want to, I mean, besides work, obviously, we're Zooming here now and we're talking. And this is, exactly. I just, I just, I just shot a four-day Zoom thing for something that'll, you know, really, really cool that will come out in three weeks. It's really, really cool. What's it called?
Starting point is 00:13:56 What's a call? Aside from that, you're right. The zooming thing is it's a little alienating. It's not quite, you see everybody, but suddenly that everything gets quiet because no one, are you supposed to talk? I'm supposed to talk. I'm supposed to talk, George. Yeah. I got to move.
Starting point is 00:14:12 You got to move? We're moving from you, George. We're going to go to Susan. Susan, what about you? So I'm not a social butterfly, even though I may appear to be. I'm more like Carl. So I really prefer, like, I, you know, I'm a homebody, like in a big, big way. And so my life like Carl's has, in that regard, it hasn't changed because I'm just social distancing like I usually do.
Starting point is 00:14:36 But I really miss being able to. travel. I miss being able to go. I want to go see my dad. And, you know, that's really hard. I have three sisters that I really miss and want to see. And we're all spread out all over the world. And so that's really difficult. But I have my dogs and, you know, that they are like delicious and they keep me in the present because they are so in the present. And, you know, I mean, I'm busy with work. I mean, that's the beautiful thing about. voiceover is it forced me to set up my home studio and I audition so much every day and I've done a bunch of video games from my closet. Wow. Which I never thought would be possible. And now I never want to
Starting point is 00:15:25 go back to a studio. Who are your agents? By the way, I say social butterfly, but what I mean is you're sort of like the leader of this group in a way because you're always trying to get a reunion, trying to get things going. So I sort of picture you as like, hey, she's like a go get her. She's like she wants to do her a Justice League reunion here, she's like the person who's really heading this, spearheading this thing. Well, because I believe in it so much. You know, and if I believe in something, I'm going to fight for it. And this is something that you, I mean, I'm sure people are so sick of it. But, you know, I called Bruce Tim not that long ago just to say, if I'm on the wrong path, then you let me know, because I don't want the fans to come along with me on this journey and have them be disappointed. And he said, don't give up. You know, this is, it's not, it's not on the docket for us to do a reunion, but that doesn't mean it can't happen.
Starting point is 00:16:20 So my leafblower is going now. So anyway, I mean, I think that I don't have as many followers as you and Kevin and Phil and George have. So I'm just like one voice out there trying with, you know, some help obviously from people. but there's so much support out there for us. Well, maybe after this, we're going to do it. We'll do a post and we'll say if you want a Justice League reunion, really make it heard, you know, let them hear it. And, you know, we'll go after it because I think people are going to be really excited about us getting together. And Phil, hi, you've got to be, I mean, look, I know you love doing improv.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I know you like to. You're always a man on the move. So what are you doing during this time? I mean, are you doing the same thing as Susan and George and Carl, are you busy too? Yes, definitely busy. not bored, although at first it was busy with, what have I been putting off around the house for the last 15 years, you know, did all of that, you know, got out the, you know, the wrenches and everything, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:22 How many times can I organize this cabinet for the love of God? It looks fine. My OCD was just going nuts. Exactly. But then the voiceover stuff. like had an upswing, you know, not just kept going, but like all of a sudden, they're like, hey, I used to do, you know, our dramas, but maybe now I should do a cartoon. And I was fortunate in that I already had a home setup.
Starting point is 00:17:56 But the whole learning how to be your own engineer thing, while acting at the same time, that's not a lot of fun it's a huge learning curve in terms of the engineering because that's been a big deal especially when they want you to tape you know to record the backup for the session and you're like it's like oh god i hope i pressed you know record when this whole thing started uh you know it's like stress yeah maria what about you what are you doing are you holding up Well, it's been for me a little bit of everything. At first, it was like surreal. Like, I can't believe this is happening.
Starting point is 00:18:37 There's a pandemic. Look at the streets bare. It was just, like, shocking and sad. But then there was a little bit of an interesting positive to stopping. Because having two teenage daughters and we're both actors, my husband and I, so you know how crazy that gets in school and homework and rehearsals. and they both are in show choir and theater and all extracurriculars. It's like exhausting.
Starting point is 00:19:07 So there was kind of an interesting time where, well, this is not completely horrible that there's all this pain in the world. There are some positives in that people are connecting more with their nuclear families. And we had some great heart-to-heart talks and important discussions that were never any time for that because they were always like, you know, feed them. make sure that they sleep enough and we'd have to have these rushed conversations or they're always exhausted. So I remember clocking how wonderful those important conversations were
Starting point is 00:19:43 that we were able to have. And then as the weeks progressed, I was like, okay, David, we need to fix the house. Because we're always at home. There's no excuse. Before everything shuts down completely, go to Lowe's and get the paint. And we redid my younger, my 14-year-old's bedroom, just like she wanted.
Starting point is 00:20:05 I ordered everything online. So that felt kind of like a positive. Fulfilling. Fulfilling. How do you do that? Let me ask you something. The first thing you said, I started thinking, this is a TV show. I am always the center of attention.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Like I always have ADD. I'm always going into a room. I got to make people like me. They're not going to like me. If I'm not funny, that's kind of stuff. from childhood, which I get into the show constantly and our fears and their anxieties. But when I look at you, you married an actor. Your kids are actors.
Starting point is 00:20:37 To me, that sounds like a nightmare. There's other people getting all the attention. How do you deal with it? Because you like attention, right? I think I get plenty, and I've had plenty of it. And as long as I am able to work, and that's been a little bit of a blessing. Of course, though we need more work. But the proud family on Disney Channel has been rebooted, and I recur on that.
Starting point is 00:20:58 So we had to do the whole make your studio even better in the closet thing, just like Susan. And I saw, you know, like what Phil's doing. I saw what he was doing online, too. And so we got a better mic. And so I was able to do a couple of episodes of that so far. And we're auditioning from home. So they're not like professional actors. My daughter wants to be a singer, the older one.
Starting point is 00:21:24 So she is going for it. And so she's doing college prep stuff. She's going to be a senior in the fall. And so there's still like, I'm sure you guys are experiencing the ups and the downs. Yes. Making sure that we appreciate the blessings within this horrendous situation. There's always good that you can find in the pain. But there's definitely a lot of pain and that sucks.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Yeah, I always find that. I didn't understand why until I really started doing it. And it's not that I had never been grateful. But the more I practice gratitude and go to bed at night, closing my eyes and just saying what I'm thankful for and trying to do for others. I always feel better. I always just feel better being grateful. It's almost like a cure for a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:22:09 And like we're lucky. I mean, we work. We're in an entertainment industry. And there's so many people who are starving or their families had to work. And it's like, it's tragic. So many people unemployed. So we are lucky. And so.
Starting point is 00:22:21 A little bit. Yeah. Yeah. And I like hearing these positive stories of like, you know, We got to keep busy. We got to keep doing it. We also got to keep helping other people, you know, and doing the best that we can. Inside of you is brought to you by Rocket Money.
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Starting point is 00:26:26 Carl, what do you prefer? Do you, would you rather, you like live action or do you like voice? I like theater. Theater. I knew you were going to say that. Or you get relatively little. But theater is the basis for everything else that I've done. I think for me, it's always been a balance.
Starting point is 00:26:43 I don't think probably in some ways, you know, on camera has. been the bulk of my paid work, but I've really enjoyed the voiceover work that I've done. And I like all the different processes, but it always goes back to theater for me. And so I feel that balance, I always wanted to feel like I was personal. and I don't like being called a television actor or a stage actor or a voicemover actor or I might like being called a film actor that sounds good
Starting point is 00:27:29 but it doesn't it's yeah I need the balance I need the balance it's always been about that connection and so it's just connection in a different way connection through a camera or a connection through a microphone or a connection in a room with people. So as an example, I don't know what theater is going to look like as we move forward, but I know it's going to different and everything is going to evolve. And that's very exciting, scary, but very exciting. A lot of one-man shows in the beginning. I mean,
Starting point is 00:28:04 I'm going on right now. Are you? Yes, yes. Fantastic. James Baldwin. Awesome. Nice. George? Go ahead, Phil. No, Phil. No, I was just saying that, you know, having bounced around from between scripted theater, unscripted theater, on camera, voiceover, what I found is my favorite genre is stuff that's good. Because honestly, I feel like Justice League has more in common with Pulp Fiction than it does with pound puck. Just because they're in the same, you know, medium, this show that was incredibly well written that, you know, honored the feeling of an ensemble was almost a similar feeling to what I had on that set.
Starting point is 00:28:56 You know, it's like everybody knew these script was amazing. We all wanted to be in here and we're all leaning into how can we make this, you know, even better. Yeah. Whereas if you do a bad play or, you know, a crappy TV show, you know, we. How many of us have done a one of those sitcoms who are like, is it Friday yet? Oh, yeah, we've all done it. We've all done it. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:29:20 I mean, you're right. It's about, it is about the work. George, you probably feel the same one. Yeah, you know, I've been, I've just been doing the dance for, God, for, I don't know, 30 years. I feel like I've been in LA, but I've been really fortunate, really lucky, blessed to be able to do a little bit of everything. And the thing they don't tell you when you start out when you're an actor and you're in college is like, I want to do this. I love singing and dancing.
Starting point is 00:29:43 I was a musical theater guy and a dancer forever. And then I got out of college. I thought for sure I was going to go to New York and be in the chorus dancing because I was like ballet and tap and all that stuff. And then I got an audition in Chicago and I got flown out to L.A. for a screen test for Back to the Future. So that, and I got down at the very, very end. What?
Starting point is 00:30:04 Right before Eric Stoltz. I didn't know that. It's a crazy story, crazy story. And everybody was in work. wardrobe and makeup, and I did like a nine-hour screen test. Nine hours. Yeah. How many times could you see, Doc?
Starting point is 00:30:18 They built the sets and everything, and everybody's in order. So that experience told me, oh, I thought I was going to go to New York immediately do theater. And then I came out to tell us, well, maybe I should just go out to LA and see what happens. I don't know what that is. So, but when I got here, they don't tell you what your, what a life out here in Los Angeles is like, no one there's no no one can tell you this agents managers you know auditions and all the rest of it so my i guess my point is i was open to doing everything immediately and i was likely to get a car i got my first job my one of my first jobs in the first uh six months of being there was an animated series
Starting point is 00:30:57 at hannah barbara with uh jody benson and um at tim curry it was called Pirates of dark water and uh and uh what's his name that gordon hunt directed it so that was my first and then i did more on camera and then I kept weaving in and out of voiceover and animation and commercial and on camera. And it just goes in phases. And I don't really prefer one over the other. But like Carl said, it's great and wonderful when you can have a balance because it feels great to be on a set at 16 hours a day sometime and seeing people and going to crap service and putting long hours in and getting paid. And then sometimes it's fun to be in this booth, you know, by yourself with having some piece and narrating an
Starting point is 00:31:37 audiobook. I do an, you know, the audio books. We're doing an animation thing with all you guys and going to conventions. I love that. I like meeting the fans. There's so many different parts of it. So to answer your question, balance, I think it for me is what makes it most fun. I don't
Starting point is 00:31:53 want to do just one thing and I don't prefer one over the other, honestly. Susan? Well, I'm the outlier in this group because I don't do on camera. I did it for a very short time. I was lucky to have worked with a director as his assistant in 1990, Lamont Johnson. And he was doing, did you know Lamont? Yes. And he was just a dear, dear man. And he knew about my aspirations.
Starting point is 00:32:19 And he said, kid, you're going to be in this movie. And so he gave me a part. And it was just horrible for me. Like I, you know, some people come to life in front of a camera or they forget it's there. And that was never going to be me. I was aware. I was not. nervous. I was, I wanted to throw up. I just, it was just a nightmare. And voiceover, um, felt comfortable. It was so enjoyable. I used to do the ads for my dad's business way back when, when I was 15. He would write, my sister would write the copy and I would go on the radio and I would do the ads for his, uh, department store. So that always had a feeling of, of comfort for me and safety. But within
Starting point is 00:33:03 voiceover, because my career is voiceover, I love having, I love doing it all. So that's where I find the balance. I don't do theater or live action, but I do narration, I do promos, I do commercial,
Starting point is 00:33:19 and then I do some animation, but my bread and butter is really commercial voiceover. Good on you. And I love it. I mean, it is just, in so many ways, it is the perfect career. It's nice when you just also do video games. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Oh, right. Which is as far from commercial voiceover as I can imagine. No. By the way, Phil, for someone who does as many voiceovers as you do, as many cartoons and all the stuff, and, you know, in-house, you could have a better setup here. Your microphone sounds the worst. Oh, because I'm on this to. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:33:57 I'm kidding. It's absolutely fun. Maria. Talk. Talk to me. Yes. sir. Well, I love it all for different reasons. I was a theater major in college and I loved theater and live theater and I miss doing that because I haven't done as much of that. But I love
Starting point is 00:34:16 television because you get a little, especially sitcom, which is what I've done a lot of, because you get that theater feel with the live audience and you can mess up and start over. It's like, great. I love film because it's just so intimate And I don't like the waiting But that's part of it I wish I did more voiceover I wish I'd get more voiceover because I love it I love that you have to make everything come alive
Starting point is 00:34:43 With just your voice I love that challenge I just I find It's all to me performance And there's different sides And different challenges challenges and I enjoy meeting all those challenges within the different genres. I really like it. I even like hosting. I think that's so fun. Yeah. I mean, you have that personality. You could
Starting point is 00:35:08 really do anything. You look at you and you're like, oh, yeah, she's pleasant. Oh, she's got a nice boys. She's fun. That means a lot coming from one of the most pleasant guys. Well, I'll be honest with you guys. Well, look, a second ago, uh, Susan was talking about comfort and she wasn't that comfortable with acting as much as the voice over and doing all that, the voice. And I thought the first thing I thought was comfort. I don't think I've been comfortable doing anything in my life. I'm always uncomfortable. I mean, do you guys, have you guys always been confident? What makes you nervous? What makes you, we'll start, Maria, what makes you nervous? Do you get nervous when you're acting? Do you get nervous before? Are you pretty? I only get nervous if I don't
Starting point is 00:35:48 feel prepared. If I'm prepared, then I'm excited. Definitely. similar physical reality and that the heartbeat is beating fast but different mentally if you're prepared it's exciting that makes sense yeah yeah phil um can you hear me yeah that a dick no um i'm same with maria i don't get nervous anymore unless i'm doing something i haven't done before or that I feel like, oh, gosh, I should know this better. I should, two winters ago, I did my first musical at the Pasadena Civic Auditorium, like a big musical with like real dancers and everything. And honestly, that was probably the first time I was like nervous in about 20 years.
Starting point is 00:36:45 What happens when you're nervous? Is it something you could deal with or is it something that was overwhelming and it was in your thoughts all the time during that process? It's um it's it's funneled you know I I remember the very first time I went on stage in eighth grade just walking out on stage opening the play with a monologue and you feel the energy of the audience hits you and I think for some people that can be overwhelming and like it's like being electrically shocked and for some people it's empowering It's like, these people are mine, I'm stealing their souls, and it makes me large.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Carl's eyes just lit up. Carl, is that you? No. No. No. No. Well, I remember, Carl told me a story when he first, you know, got into performing, and that was a bizarre, which is so funny to think of you being unprepared, being, you know, not a natural.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Yes. Yes. No, I was not an answer. I was a writer, and I, essentially, I was a journalist. I was assigned a story to cover this theater, improvisational comedy theater that had lost their cast to L.A. And they had a public audition with a couple hundred people. I ended up going there to cover the story. It was handed an audition card and thought, well, this will be perfect. I'll write this story from the standpoint of someone who desperately wants to be a part of this company. and then has to watch as other more talented people are picked. And so it was over about a month period on the weekends, and they kept winnowing it down. And in each iteration of letting people go, I remained. And there were probably a number of factors for that. This was in Minneapolis.
Starting point is 00:38:44 I may have been the only black actor, a black person, who was in this process. Anyway, it ended up being whittled down to five people. I was one of the five people. Then I told them, no, I'm not actually here to do this. I wrote this story. I showed me the story, and I said, so give it to, you know, it should go to someone who wants it.
Starting point is 00:39:06 And then I forgot it. And then they called me back and said, would you be interested in considering being part of the company? You wouldn't, you, Carl, are you saying that you would, be an actor if it wasn't for that? Absolutely, I would not be an actor. What was the company, Carl? It was Dudley Riggs' Brave New Workshop in Minneapolis, Minnesota. And it was kind of the fellow who had been Delcoast's partner in Second City had spread off and
Starting point is 00:39:36 Carl, do you believe in the hand of fate? Do you think, obviously, right? That's the only way I think it could have happened. And then, of course, certain things, Because in that instance, it was sort of like riding on your feet, and you also needed other people. And I am a fairly private person, but I really loved that collegial feeling. And that's part of what I love about doing this work, is that in a way you're doing it by yourself, but it's always collegial. It's always either in concert with a writer and a director or in concert with the other people you're working with. And in these instances, I feel like an extrovert because I want to bring my best to the table. And what makes me nervous is when I feel certain about what I'm doing or going to do.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Wait, what makes you nervous is when you feel certain that's when you get nervous? Yeah, yes, yes. I like the feeling of I used to play basketball in college and if before a game I didn't feel slightly nauseous I always wondered what was going on
Starting point is 00:40:53 and generally in the middle of that wonder I would begin to feel slightly nauseous and then I'd be fine because I think that uncertainty is the only thing you can count on in life and it's it's certainly well in and out of my professional life
Starting point is 00:41:12 you know things happened that you just didn't see coming and um you you roll with it you um so yeah this was not what I had planned
Starting point is 00:41:23 wow that's baffling Susan it's like somebody handing Babe Ruth hey have you ever swung a stick no I never even thought about it It really is that really is
Starting point is 00:41:33 that's why that's why he got it because you didn't want it. Wanting it is the kiss of death. Yeah. Susan? You get nervous? What do you do? So I was nervous for every session of the Justice League.
Starting point is 00:41:48 I would pull into the Sherman Oaks Gallery, which people can't believe that we actually worked there, by the way. Oh, my God. And I'd pull into the underground garage, and I would be so terrified. And like I said, it was very intimidating because I was the only one in the cast who did not have the background. Everyone else had like this, you know, like Phil had done Pulp Fiction, like all these people. You were stars to me. And George, my God, George, I grew up watching George.
Starting point is 00:42:21 I had such a crush on George. I still do. He's panamiming smoking a cigar. The bride was like such a big movie for me. So, you know, it was very intimidating. It was always, always intimidating walking into that room. But I think that, you know, you just, you, the excitement like Maria talked about, I was also so excited to say the words and to be like work with all of you and to be part of that ensemble. It was so electrifying to me to have that experience.
Starting point is 00:42:55 So like it was scary. It was always scary and it was intimidating. But at the same time, it was invigorating. And I loved it. I was nervous. Let me tell you something. I got nervous. I was definitely nervous. And for me, it's just like you want, you almost want to do something. And then when you feel like, okay, I've, I'm in the, I'm in that zone. They like it where that's when I can kind of let go. And that's when the confidence really takes over. So if I could find that, but when there's like,
Starting point is 00:43:25 you know, you're unsure, it's, the uncertainty is it's always, if you let it get the best of you, it can drive you crazy. So I'm like, you're not drinking a Coke right before this. You're not doing Coke before this. You know, not that I do coke. It was a joke, coke, joke. Well, rhyme, three. All right, George. Wow, you know what?
Starting point is 00:43:44 So many things make me nervous. But I think it's just one of those big life lessons for me, which was I always do better when I don't feel like I'm being judged. And that's what I, like Maria is so comfortable doing sitcoms or even theater. When I'm doing a sitcom and the material is even just media. or and most people can make it funnier and better. I'm not that way because I feel judgment. I feel like the writers are like leaning in going, or the producers are there going,
Starting point is 00:44:16 oh, God, you better deliver here, buddy. I tend to fall. I tend to shrink. So what makes me nervous is when I feel judged. So my life lesson has been, my journey has been, don't worry if people are judging you, just find that piece that you're going to do your best.
Starting point is 00:44:34 And if they don't like it, it's okay. If you get fired, it's okay, because I've been fired a couple times. And once I got past the second firing, I went, oh, I'm still alive. Yeah, I felt the same way. Yeah, it's like a near death. It's a death experience. And with the first time it happened, I was like, it's over. I don't think I'm going to live.
Starting point is 00:44:51 I've just been professionally, I'm done. And then I lived. And I got another job and then I got a job. And then I got fired from something else. And then I got another job. I went, oh, it's okay. It's okay. Some people don't like you.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Yeah. The judgment, like some people will never like you. And that's okay. It's the flip side of when you first get to L. Like the people who tell those stories, I got to L.A., I got off the bus. Someone handed me off movie script, and they think, that's how it works. That's not how it works.
Starting point is 00:45:15 I will get a job every day for the rest of my life. And the first time you get fired, you're like, I'm going to get fired every day for the rest of my life. Yes. You know what? It gives me more anxiety when I get offered roles. And now I know people can say, oh, well, you get an offered rolls. When I get an offered a role, it means that I'm going on set and they're expecting
Starting point is 00:45:34 something and if that's not it then they're like uh so when i audition for something and i test and they're like yes that's what we want i know i'm going on and said i know what they want but not knowing what they want gives me more anxiety and then you're more apt to maybe get fired well yeah the offer is basically like going on stage without rehearsal because when you audition it's fundamentally you know it's like hey did you like that great okay now i know what what to do yeah Michael, we want you to play Gary Oldman. Oh, and I go on set and I'm like, I have crossed oceans of time to find you.
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Starting point is 00:48:49 we're going to read something in a little while that you guys all have right yes maria's like what no um no maria's got a printer that works so we You know, what's funny is I, this is Leanne P. It says, who are some of your personal heroes? For some reason, I'm not wearing my strong context. I thought I said, who are some of your personal herpes? The O, it looked like a P. Oh.
Starting point is 00:49:14 I thought that, that wouldn't have been a terrible question. What's your personal herpes? That makes sense. Yeah, because then I'd have to, you know, name check Will Smith and Jada Pinkett. Who are your favorite super herpes? Leanne P. Yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying now. See how are you?
Starting point is 00:49:29 Leanne P., who are some of your personal heroes? Now, this is rapid fire. So, Carl, personal heroes. Barack Obama, James Baldwin. Man, it's difficult because I feel like I'm so many. You'll only have to name one. My father, my mother, and my late wife. that's beautiful and i know car and you know we all said it i mean it's you know in this show
Starting point is 00:50:06 it helps so many people because so many people write into me and talk we talk about loss we talk about you know uh adversity and anxiety and depression and everybody deals with it and you know i think this show tries to normalize that and you know my heart always it just it just sank when i heard about your and it's been i think 10 years now and how do you just briefly i know you don't get personal and we can cut it if you want but how do you how do you move on what do you do to continue on? Because I'm sure it felt like this bottomless pit, this place where you're like, I don't, you know, and what helps? What do you do? Well, you go to the bottom because that's real. I mean, I went to my bottom. And then in the bottom, I remembered that connection. The reason
Starting point is 00:50:53 I say she was my hero was because she lived with a lot of illness for a long time in her life. But there was no way you would know it. And so that became a beacon to get me back. And one of the things that happens is that initially, all you can think of is that loss. It takes up all of the space in your being, and you forget that you only feel the size of the loss because the magnitude of the joy was that much greater.
Starting point is 00:51:29 And as that begins to flood back in, literally, the loss is carried downstream. And you're left with this beautiful river of memory of what you still have with you. Carl, I'm just on the verge of tears right now. And I'm honestly calling you. Every time I experience loss, I'm calling Carl Lumley. You're going to help me through life, Carl. I'll see some of your posts, Michael, about your grandmother or your aunt, and, you know, it just, it's, they're so dear. It's such a different side of you, which I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:11 And so reading your posts, it's like I've gotten to know you a little bit better through them. And they're so heartfelt and vulnerable, vulnerable. I mean, so they just broke my heart, but in a wonderful way. Thank you. You know, I think that what I've learned is, you know, you try to. to while they're here, you know, tell them how much you love them. And obviously it's never enough. You're like, I could have done this.
Starting point is 00:52:33 I could have said that. That's just something that I think everyone does. But, you know, I start thinking about, you know, my uncle, who's an amazing man. And I'm like, you know, I'm thinking about him. Why don't I just post how I feel about my uncle, how great he is? And I do it. And I post about someone I love or I admire or I try to do things now before that, just so they know how much I love them just because I know how emotional I am.
Starting point is 00:52:58 and how devastated I'll be. So I'm trying to protect myself, but also, you know, speak the truth, especially my friend Grant Imahara, who, you know, was such an amazing man. 49 years old, brain aneurysm gone. He was a USC grad. He made robots. He was a myth busters. He, but he was the most down-the-earth, fun-loving, gentle soul.
Starting point is 00:53:21 And it just stays with me because it's, you know, he's my age. He's our age. she's it's just like this young man who had so much that just for some reason i mean obvious obvious reasons anyway george um and i know you know you lost your mother when you were 15 and i know she was a big supporter of yours and again to you it's like you know what what was i mean you're young you're a kid you know and she was good you know i i don't know i i think her her mother my grandmother was a big a big influence in my life so um she was the first lawyer in arkansas and uh just to a matriarch. She was like Auntie Maim, and she was sort of the hero in my life. And also
Starting point is 00:54:02 one of the other heroes is, this is going to sound strange. I was raised in the South. I was raised in Arkansas, and there was an African-American man, black man who lived with us, who was basically my mother. My mother was a terrible alcoholic and all the rest of it. So he lived with us. He raised my mother's family, and he was with us, and I considered him practically my father my father was very always at work and sort of distance so levi was his name and i he was my hero and i still think about him to this day that's awesome greatest greatest man that's amazing so uh yeah so he was my mother and father figure in many respects yeah you know what it sounds so cliche but don't you really believe that you know i i i try to practice what i preach and i'm not a doctor
Starting point is 00:54:49 but like you know on this show it's like you know when you do have loss you know some you know people go really low and they start to drink or they start to do drugs and they start to and they just can't deal with it and it really i know it sounds kind of surfaced but if you think about like is this what they'd want you to do like is this how you're like you know uh you're dealing with it there you know this happens so don't you want to live the best life you can maybe for them or maybe i mean i think there's some truth to that it's like i want to make my grandmother's grandfather smile up in the heavens i want to say hey i'm doing this all for you you are here you're the reason I'm here. You're the reason I'm doing it. And without you, I wouldn't have been able
Starting point is 00:55:28 to do it. And so I believe that. Yeah. So many ways. Yeah. And also, you know, I believe that more we co-create with God and my relationship with God for me is very important. And I feel like the more I can get in tune with what the bigger picture is, the happier I am. You know what I mean? That's always, I'm always better when I'm, I'm, when I just let go of this and go with. I I say, whatever makes you happy, whatever works for you, you do. And everyone should respect that and love that, whether it's spiritual, whether it's God, whatever it is. That's why, I mean, we wouldn't have fucking wars.
Starting point is 00:56:05 If people could just say, hey, I love that, love that. Just don't tell me what to do. Believe what you want to believe. I get it. I get it. I know, but by the way, God's distant. What did I believe in God? Also so astonishing about this conversation is like everyone has their sorrow and everyone has their story.
Starting point is 00:56:22 And you'd never know when you walk into these rooms what somebody's story is. We think everybody else has their shit together and we think everybody else has so much confidence and look at them. And aren't they fabulous? They're fabulous and talented and they've got it all together. Meanwhile, he just lost his wife. She just lost her mother. She's been battling depression. You know, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Exactly. People are carrying around and everyone's carrying around something. So, Susan, who's your hero? You know, I don't, it's nothing, like, it's not like, oh, it's, you know, Michelle Obama. It's nothing's jumping out, except there are some people that I've met through Twitter that are fighting the good fight. You know, it's one thing to like, puff, puff, you know, tweet something as Wonder Woman and come off as brave and get like, you know, a hundred people to think it's fabulous. But there are people like Shannon Watts who, you know, started this campaign against the NRA and to work for gun control. And she gets death threats and she, you know, there are just so many people who are on the front lines of whatever their cause is.
Starting point is 00:57:30 And they're unafraid and unapologetic. And they're speaking their truth to the, to power. And I have so much respect for that. Absolutely. Somebody like Shannon. Somebody like these, you know, the politicians or the, or people in the private sector who are trying to get shit done or trying to change our climate or, you know, you know, make our lives better, but aren't just talking about it or tweeting about it. You're out there doing it.
Starting point is 00:57:58 And I have such respect for that. I love that. Phil? Don't she start singing, we don't need another hero, Phil? Who's your hero? We don't need another here. What if we did a musical with all our voices, like all our characters with? We don't need another.
Starting point is 00:58:17 need another. Sidney Poitiers and my mother. Beautiful. Both people who overcame obstacles to achieve great, like my mother
Starting point is 00:58:31 was the first person in her family, also from Arkansas, George. Really? Wow. The seventh of eight kids, the first one to go to college. First one in the entire family history to go to college.
Starting point is 00:58:44 And not only that, but then provided the ability for me to go to college. knowledge. I love it. And Cittier just, you know, as someone just who also, who worked on a personal level, but on a symbolic level as well, you know, right? Think about the adversity. We can't even imagine. Right? I can't even imagine. I can't even imagine. You guys can imagine. Carl can imagine. Phil can imagine more than I can imagine. Not me. I'm the privilege. I really, yeah. Exactly. Right. It's like. But that's the thing to accomplish what he
Starting point is 00:59:11 accomplished when he accomplished it. Yeah. Those people on the front lines for all those years, Talk about bravery, yeah. Maria. Maria, who's your hero? So when you said personal hero, that I think of people that I want to be like, that I admire their character and their actions. And the person I look up to as a person of faith as a Christian is Jesus. And that's who I want to be like. That's who I call on to renew me, change me, save me. So I think of him as number one.
Starting point is 00:59:44 And then people that I know personally in the flesh, I think about people whose capacity to love. To me, that's always something I'm in awe, that they love in spite of so many reasons not to love. I think that's really the goal. And I think about my husband, because I admire his capacity to love, his compassion, his patience. And even though we argue and I don't like some things, I like so much about him and I want to be like him in so many ways. That's awesome. You know, as I matured, I'm able to actually look at very flawed people that I have focused on the negatives about and actually admire them like my mother, who I was able to really mourn years after her death because I, I felt. focused on all the frustrations I had. I focused also on why wasn't I even better for her?
Starting point is 01:00:50 And my husband says, I can tell you as an outsider, you were, you did a, of the best you can and you did a lot. But, you know, I think I should have done more, especially as a person of faith. I should have been able to love even more. I should have been able to forgive immediately sooner and take even more crap. I realized that that I'm limited. I'm limited in my own flesh and I was actually the best I could be at the time. And it was pretty good coming from somebody else's opinion that I respect like my husband. I love that. I have, you know, I feel like I think about, you know, I definitely think of my grandfather, just unconditional love.
Starting point is 01:01:37 I remember him handwriting letters to me all the time just saying, Mike, I just, I'm so proud of you. We've always been proud of you before anything ever had. happened you know that we love you we only want to see you do well we we you know it's just we enjoy that you enjoy us so much we're grandparents most people don't really give a shit about a grand you've always loved us and called us every and so i always think of him um and my grandmother ruthy um all right so this is rapid fire so we got to bolt through these so we can listen because this is this is great i love all this is so amazing thank you for all your uh openness i mean you know it's justice league i know people are probably but this is kind of the show
Starting point is 01:02:14 So we want to talk, we want to laugh, we want to have fun. But we also want to, like, you know, be insightful and be real. So I appreciate all you guys. Marissa N., you all played amazing superheroes. But aside from the role you played, who would you say is your favorite superhero? Really quick. Carl, who's your favorite superhero? Martian Manhunter, as played by David Harewood on Supergirl.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Who you work with? Because he's not my son now. Right. That's amazing. All right. George. Oh, gosh. You know, I hate to say it, but I really, I admire Batman.
Starting point is 01:02:47 God, dang. I love it. Susan. So I would say Wonder Woman. If I can't say Wonder Woman, I'd say Superman. All right. Maria. I know Batman is hot, but I love Superman because he's so pure.
Starting point is 01:03:01 She's hitting on you, George. Phil. Spider-Man, no doubt about it. The awkward teen who gets powers and is flawed. That's good. But not, but. It's all of us. But light on the tragedy.
Starting point is 01:03:14 I love Batman, but Batman's basically a psychopath. Yeah. I kind of like being The Flash. I mean, you know, cool characters, Batman's definitely. But don't you think, Michael, that, like, as casting goes, don't you think you were so perfectly cast? Yeah, he was just like, kind of just having fun and just trying to lighten everything up. Yeah, I think so. Perfect casting.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Yeah, thank you. Thank you. All right, really quickly. Ray A. said, I heard Maria was really pissed when it ended because they left everything open. ended. Now, this is just what he said. Maria, maybe you didn't say it. Maybe you weren't pissed. I think we were all upset. So, would you all get together to play those characters in a cartoon movie.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Of course, I would. Yes, everyone. That's the point of the Justice League reunion for a movie. For a movie. Now, for the series to continue, because it's not going, that's never going to happen. I think we had two more, I think we had two more years easy. Easily. I don't know. It was just, it was just so well-made.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Unlimited for sure. But, you know, we ran five years. I mean, it was a toll. Like we had, well, we had We had two for the Justice League. And three for Unlimited. And that's a lot. We have unlimited? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:21 And that's a lot for a cartoon. Wow. I guess it. But like, you know, when you have the fans that we have, I think a movie that they do would be the perfect. And we're doing some, we're going to do some reunions next year or whenever. So see us at some cons. You Kiko, really quick. I did enjoy the story of the Flash and Lex is mind swapping.
Starting point is 01:04:38 I'd love to hear if everyone, including Rosie, had any memories of the story. I just remember working with Clancy Brown. He was Lex. I was Flash. We switched brains. It was kind of confusing and fun and weird. And Andrea Romano directed us beautifully. And it was just fun. And everyone always loves that episode that I encounter. Didn't you guys do that thing where you would read the lines and then he would read them based on your like, okay.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Hey, Michael, how would Flash say this? And then, yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I would be like, I don't even care what you're saying anymore. And then he would go. And then he would do his and he would do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:10 It was just, it was cool. Yeah. Bob Kay, what prep work did each of the stars and Rosie? I like stars and Rosie. Kidding, kidding. What do they do for the role? They feel like they know you.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Did you research the characters and start reading the comics? Guys, you could guys just talk about, any of you could say it real quick. Did any of you research the characters or what you were going to do? I would say most of us, I knew the character.
Starting point is 01:05:35 I mean, it's Wonder Woman. So I knew Linda Carter. But research, no, because we were doing what Bruce wanted us to do. Bruce Tim, beautiful man, brilliant. I mean, you have those scripts. It's like, that's what you're going to do. People ask if I channeled Linda Carter, no, because I wasn't doing Linda Carter.
Starting point is 01:05:53 I was doing the Justice League version of Wonder Woman. But I didn't know, I didn't follow comics and all that stuff. I didn't follow Marvel or Superman or anything growing up. So for me, like the one that I really, if I was playing Martian Manhunter, Carl, I would be like, how do I act like this guy? Did you, where you're like? I mean, who was Hawk Girl? Yeah, Maria, were you guys like, how do I do this? I remember she really wanted, Andrea,
Starting point is 01:06:17 wanted us to use ourselves, our authentic voices, our authentic experiences. So I remember when I did look into a little bit about her for the audition, she froze. And so I thought how I left Miami and I missed the whole Cubanness of Miami and my heritage. And I tapped into that. And it was real for me.
Starting point is 01:06:41 so that goes right with Chayera's experiences. And if it's authentic, it really resonates with people. So it's about finding the hero, the character, in your own self. And I think we did that, thank God. All right. A few more questions, then we're going to read this thing, and that'll be it. But this is the main. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:07:00 This has worked out perfectly. I thought five people would be difficult. You guys are so sweet and fun. And the stories are great. And I hope you're enjoying it somewhat for, you know. I love it. Good. Love it.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Love it. good i like that i love sing car i really do love sing i love seeing all of you uh phil really quick braiden says what was your favorite memory working on pulp fiction i mean you hear this all the time but come on um going out for drinks on friday nights and belling up to the bar next to john travolta now granted he was you know four deep in talking baby movies at the time but he was still vini barbarino oh what phil give me another you know this is like somebody i grew up watching you know and it was just like yay oh let me ask you a personal question did you get like a lot of residual money from that one that you know that part on some Pulpiction from Pulp Fiction
Starting point is 01:07:51 you didn't man that's the most one of the most memorable parts too yeah no no you I'll take those family guy checks over uh Pulpiction checks oh man you're just so lucky when you work on those big shows man I want one of those cartoons that gumman yeah Sam Sam says lastly for Phil No, this isn't for Phil This is for Carl Because you're playing John John's brother And Supergirl, right?
Starting point is 01:08:19 No, that's me. He's playing his father. Oh, that's what it is. Carl, you're playing a father and Phil. Carl played my father too. My gosh. Yeah. On Supergirl.
Starting point is 01:08:31 I didn't know. Yeah. Carl, how is your experience on that? Oh, it's tremendous. I really enjoy it. The thing that when we were talking about the initial character, what I attached to was the fact that he was an immigrant, and it was not unlike my father. He had, you know, come to Earth, his was, as the only other Martian. So there was no one who understood him at all, and he had to make a decision about how to live in a world that was not his.
Starting point is 01:09:08 and then made this fantastic liaison with these odd super beings, none of whom could discorporate, and none of whom, and I think he stopped going into their minds. I think it was better to just experience them as they were with wonder and consternation. And so I felt like I had a lot of that in me and that I had experienced a lot of that with my father. And then, of course, being green in a society that is, you know, C.R. Green. I love it.
Starting point is 01:09:58 All right. We got the scripts. So we're going to have some fun here. By the way, we could edit it. So if we want to do it again, we can to make it really good. Because Maria likes that. So this is the read-through. This is the read-through. So Ryan here, who you can't see, is going to read for the pedestrian.
Starting point is 01:10:11 And I'll just read Batman, I guess. I don't have the script. All you have to do is when Batman says, where did you get that sweater? You just say Marshalls. Oh, Mike. Look at you. We've got to get you a video agent. Yeah, I need voiceover work, I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:10:26 All right. The Justice League hits the Sherman Oaks Mall. I wrote this in five minutes. Batman needs a sweater. Martian Manhunter, John Johns, hates the mall. Flash loves it, Green Lantern, also a mall enthusiast and lover of mint chocolate chip ice cream. Wonder Woman is annoyed with the Flash, as usual. Hawk Girl is just feeling sassy and is always full of knowledge.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Superman has a date with Lewis Lane later and trying to cover it up. He's also in a hurry. So, Interior Sherman Oaks Mall Day. Why are we at the mall? Because Batman needs a sweater. Yep. Them bat nips are poking through his costume again. quiet flash let's do it again that sucked i can do it better we'll be faster uh yeah i forgot
Starting point is 01:11:12 that i was batman i was like who's reading batman all right do you do you want me to do it mike yeah you're talking to yourself it doesn't make it yeah you read batman you read batman all right here we go interior sherman oaks mall day we're with the mall because batman needs a sweater yep them bat nips are poking through his costume again fire flash and stop staring at my nipples. I hate the mall. You can't get any lower than being at the mall. I like the mall.
Starting point is 01:11:46 They have been in jerrys here. I bet you they have my favorite. Mint chocolate chip? Yes. Okay, can we please get this sweater and get out of here? Whoa, someone hates the mall more than I do. Superman, do you have a hot date you're not telling us about? No, why?
Starting point is 01:12:03 Who said something? Flash. Not me? I didn't say a word about you and Lois hooking up. I can't tell you anything. Flash. How many women have you hit on in this mall? Ooh, Underwoman. Someone jealous? Gross. Please. No. Quiet. Batman sees a pedestrian wearing a really nice sweater. He walks up to him.
Starting point is 01:12:23 The pedestrian is a little startled. Where did you get that sweater? Marshals? Crap. This mall doesn't have a marshals. But there is a Martian manhunter here. Yeah, you guys get it, Marshall's Martian. That wasn't funny. Oh, he's never funny.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Can we please just leave the mall? Hawkgirl checks her watch for an alert. Well, you're in luck, soups. Brainiac was just spotted attacking the Culver City Mall. Well, can we at least stop by Ben and Jerry's real quick? I would really love some... Mint chocolate and ice cream. Ice cream.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Yes. As they all walk off, Superman And pouts. Another mall? Lois is going to kill me. I didn't say anything. Quiet. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Ladies and gentlemen, with Michael Rosenpile. That was really fun. This has been a real treat, guys. This has been some, I hope we get to do a reunion together. It's just so easy. Oh, we're going to do it.
Starting point is 01:13:22 You know? We have a real pleasure. Don't forget to use the hashtag jail reunion. Yes, by the way, really quick. Let's start with Carl. Carl, just something people could look forward to. And if you're on Instagram and all that, where can we find you? Or what's up?
Starting point is 01:13:38 The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, but I can't say what it is. But I'll be there. Oh, I'm excited about that. I'm excited. George? I've got something that's coming out at about three weeks with really big stars. And it's a fundraiser. And it's really cool.
Starting point is 01:13:54 So everyone tune in in three weeks. And what's your handle, George? At George Newburn on Twitter and Instagram. Follow my favorite Superman, please. Because Tom Well, he wasn't Superman. He was just Clark Kent. You're my favorite Superman. He's my favorite, Susan.
Starting point is 01:14:08 So I have some Wonder Woman coming up, but I can't tell too much about it. But it's a Wonder Woman story, so that's exciting. And Susan Eisenberg won on Instagram and Twitter. You've played like Wonder Woman in like 12 versions of Wonder Woman, right, in different projects. Yeah. Is that right? Sorry, so I throw that in there. Phil. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Let's see. For social media, I'm at Phil Lamar. Dwells in the middle, two hours will be in. Twitter, Instagram. And as far as stuff coming up, there's actually a samurai jack video game. What? Supposed to be coming out sometime this summer.
Starting point is 01:14:55 That looks like they've really captured the, you know, the feel of the show. And actually, we're going to be doing a virtual con. GalaxyCon is doing a virtual thing with a group of us from the Star Wars animated shows. Cool. So galaxycon.com are on my social media. The info will be there. It's got to be so cool to be a part of that.
Starting point is 01:15:18 I suppose that will start happening more and more. Yeah, I'm doing some of those virtual things too. I'm doing Informa. I'm sure not going to Florida for a convention. No, Informa. Informa, not Florida. Oh, yeah. Maria.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Maria. My handle is at Maria underscore CB on everything. And the next thing you'll see me or hear me on is the reboot of Proud family. I'm continuing to be to voice Sunset Boulevard Dance. I love it. Don't say Boulevard Day. Boulevard Day? Boulevard Des.
Starting point is 01:15:53 I'm not. Boulevard Des. Bolvard Des. about date. Who's doing La Siena guy? Yeah. I don't know. I think it's the same girl. She was great. Do you guys remember? That writing on that show is so funny. It's really fun. I know. I'm so sad that none of my characters on that show are politically correct enough to survive. Oh, really? And I'm Michael Rosenbaum. My handle is at the Michael Rosenbaum. And if I could, you know, if you need some voice work, let me know. Be great.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Newborn is Superman, Phil Lamar, Greenlander, Maria Canals, Barrera as Hawkgirl, Carl Lumley, Martian Manhunter, Susan Eisenberg, Wonder Woman. This has been a joy. I was a little nervous, but once I got in, I remembered, and I just started having fun. And I hope you guys had a great time. And what's the hashtag, Susan, to get this Justice League reunion going? What is it? J.L. Reunion.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Hashtag J.L. Reunion. This is 20 years from the inception of the first Justice League we did together, right? So let's do it. I wish you guys all the luck in the world. I could talk to each of you for hours, but this has been great. I love you all. Thank you. Thank you for doing this.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Thank you for having us, man. It's so good to see you all. You know, that's that story Carl told about losing his wife, just like I almost, I almost cried. What's wife? You could tell it was just like, you know, she was his life. Yeah. And that touch. I mean, everybody was so sweet and so supportive.
Starting point is 01:17:25 and I know they're all busy, and to get people on the podcast, especially all these people at the same time, and, you know, everybody wants attention. Everybody wants their moment. And it's hard because when you have so many people, but I felt like it worked out well. Like, everybody got to talk. It wasn't talking over each other. It was respectful. It was fun. It was insightful. Yeah. And you edited it. Was it hard? No, because, yeah, no one was talking over each other and you moderated it like a, like a good old fashioned Comic-Con panel that we didn't get to go to. You know, we should eventually do that. I think that would be fun if you and I went to. a comic com once they started get going you know get going we flew out for a weekend and we did an inside of you panel and we had some of the guests like maybe different guests come on we just use
Starting point is 01:18:04 one of those portable things we film it we use one camera it's a two shot or a maybe a two cameras we set it up in a back room we interview a couple actors that are there we talked to some fans wouldn't that be something we bring some fans and maybe some of my patrons will be there and like interview them i think that would be a lot of fun so the future is bright we start believing in science for You're fuck sick. Jesus Christ. Jesus. I want to thank my guests again from the Justice League.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Next week is a great episode. Please tune in working hard and getting great guests. Oh, I also want to thank Eschelon, my sponsor today. My good buddy, Chris Balmunk. I hope I mentioned his name right. I met him on a plane this guy. And we started talking. He was like, well, let me send you a rower.
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