Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Kristin Kreuk Returns

Episode Date: September 22, 2020

Kristin Kreuk (Smallville, Burden of Truth) joins us virtually to share what it’s been like for her in Canada during this pandy while maintaining her acting career and actively pursuing a degree in school. With so many things being juggled right now, Kristin shares how she handles stress and discusses the things she does to prevent the feeling of being overloaded. We go on to talk about her strict upbringing, her uncomfortability with fame during Smallville, and her excitement for her role in Burden of Truth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Guys, thanks for tuning in again. The last two weeks. Actually, the last few weeks, Ryan, have been pretty big episodes. A lot of support, a lot of love out there. I love that people are subscribing and, you know, not only coming to the show because of a certain guest, going, hey, I like that. I'd like to listen to some more interviews even if I don't know every person. So I appreciate everybody out there. Yeah, that's nice.

How's your week, bud? Same, you know, hanging up. Same, you know. Yeah. Well, this will have aired a few days after when we're recording this right now. But I post something because I am convinced I saw a UFO. I know. You saw the picture, the video.

Did you, did you, it's odd. It's, okay. So what, there's no noise. There's flashing lights that go sort of like in a like a triangle. And then around, right, right. I mean, I have. never seen anything like it. I mean, my first thought is always drone these days.

Yeah, but while I put up a drone in the skies are opaque with all the smoke and shit, the air quality, I don't think at 11.30 at night, there's going to be some drone above my house. I don't know who buys drones. I know, buys drugs. Anyway, it was crazy. I was outside. I was watching my dog taking shit because that's what I, that's how I roll.

And I'm going to look up and I go, what the fuck, and Shira, my friend Shira stopped by. and uh get my phone and i used her shitty phone she might as well have had a flip fucking phone you know those flip phones it's brutal like dude update do something i don't know but uh you know this week the last two weeks i felt bad because you know i sort of you know told i just i said what was going on in my life you know it was like you know the skin cancer then last week my sister passed away and again it was this show is is like that i can't not share that information and everything you know it's nice this this week i think you know my dad's i'm sure there's some sort of relief you know and uh because my sister was six for so long and um but you know i've

been talking to him every day and uh i think you know he'll he'll get he'll get better and better you just have to know there's always tomorrow um so everything else is fine uh again thanks to all the patrons out there, if you don't know what Patreon is, it's extra support for the show and you get a bunch of stuff like inside of me. You get to ask me questions and I make videos and answer your questions. And then there's shit talking with guests. You get to ask guest questions. And then there's occasional Zoom, whether there's a live YouTube for just patrons and a bunch of stuff. There's a lot of fun stuff. Great community. And I couldn't do it without you guys. They've been around for a while. And so if you want to join Patreon, check it out.

I think you'll really enjoy it. And certain tiers get merch boxes every four months, which is... Oh, fun. Maybe it's every three months. I don't know. So I just packed boxes yesterday. I do it. I write these little notes.

Handwritten. My hand gets fucking tired after fucking three of them. I'm like, I got 20 left to do today. I have to take breaks because I don't hand... You don't do that anymore. You don't do that. But I was putting things in the box and I got new merch for, you know... Because when they get, like, they're a dedicated patron, you know?

And so they get the little box personalized thing for me. They get cool shit. So I think people are digging it. And they always have ideas, these patrons. They always, and some of them are really good. They're like, you know, you should do inside of patrons. I'm like, well, how would that work? That just seems like it seems like more work for me, doesn't it?

More work for Ryan. You know, but it was a good idea. I'll have to figure it out, but like sort of like asking people how the podcast has changed their lives, like on patron, maybe ask a certain patron. every once in a while, a lottery where, you know, you film them and, you know, just a couple minutes. How does it change your life and blah, blah, you know, because some people were really affected and, so I appreciated it. I appreciate all of it. And remember to subscribe and follow us at Inside of You podcast on Instagram, at Inside You pod on Twitter. We have an Inside of you on

Facebook as well, at Inside of You podcast or Inside You pod. You'll figure it out. A lot of good stuff on there. Stage it is this weekend. This coming weekend, Rob and I are doing another stage of It's right before we were going to a recording studio and record our album. So great prizes if you go to stage at.com and type in Rosenbaum and Dance, and there's two shows next Saturday, the 26th of September. It's 2 p.m. and a 6 p.m. tons of stuff, autograph, band pictures, and shirts, and zooms, and we play a song for you, and we'll send it to you. Just a bunch of great stuff.

So go to stage.com and get tickets now, and it's a live show, and it's a lot of fun. And thanks for the support. today's guest i've known her for since she was a young girl i think she got small though when she was 17 and i was 25 26 and um you know we just became really good friends in the beginning she was too young and i was old eccentric guy you know i wasn't old but um you know i was bald weird guy i Yes. I don't know. Whatever I was, she and I created this sort of a bond. Like we became friends and it was really nice. And I think she's a tremendous human being. I don't say this about a lot of people. But Kristen Kruk has a such a strong awareness of who she is and who she aspires to be and what she wants to become. I mean, she just, she's always evolving. And she's always, she's always working on herself. It seems like she's, she's always, she's always, doing things for others other young women she uh she's a positive force i think she really is a is a great woman she's got a lot to talk about so i'm excited about that were you here for this recording

i was not oh no well hell with you then ryan uh shout out right here to ryan who's been doing some fantastic editing give ryan a hand right here see there we go there we go i mean he edits all the you know the videos on youtube and then you could listen to him and so he's uh He's got a good ear, and I trust him. I don't even listen to the episodes anymore. I just, I assume that you're going to just do a great job and protect me if I say something stupid, which is constantly. What?

No, it's all perfect. No, it's, I barely do anything. That's a lie. Again, thank you, everybody, for all the well wishes for just all those nice notes and all those things. And some of the cameos have been fantastic. And we're doing some more virtual cons. Tom and I are doing a couple.

So check out Instagram and Twitter and all that stuff and we'll let you know but the virtual cons are fun we're doing these zooms and they give you i've said it before they give you like two minutes to talk to someone you know they're like hey michael and they give you a button that you can go 10 extra seconds 10 extra seconds and i always do that i shouldn't have told people down but i do i do go over if you do two minutes in with me you definitely get more than two minutes i'll fucking tell you that right now all right let's get inside of the wonderful talented my former co-star i hope i get to work with her again someday she's a joy and uh this is christin crook let's get inside of christin crook it's my point of you

you're listening to inside of you with michael rosenbaum inside of you inside of you with michael rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience you know this whole thing the whole COVID the whole you know how the world is now and I'm I'm optimistic I talk about we talk about this on the podcast I don't know how do you do it how do you react to the shit I just most of the time I'm able to just move forward like I try not to get stuck in it and I think that that's it like when I talk to people who really get caught up in it it's like the difference between me and them in those moments is that I don't keep thinking about it. Like I just go, okay, that's just the way it is right now. And I can step back and not get completely invested. I'm not like that all the

time, but with certain things that feel very out of my control, I am, I am. You let them go quickly. Yeah, I let them go. Why do I linger on them like a cranberry song? that i don't know michael why do you i don't know i think because my mind's going a million miles an hour i'm doing all these things and um it's not that i expect everything to be smooth sailing and and happen and and be fine and be great and i know there are things along the way there bumps along the road on the road whatever but i i think i do get a little overwhelmed at things you know especially when when that hits when it's one thing after another i try to do the breathing. And then all of a sudden, I'm drinking a Coke. I'm, uh, you know, I'm not exercising as much.

And I kind of go down. I'm like, what, what are you doing? And if you just kind of realize maybe that, hey, stop, go back to the routine. Go back to, do you have a routine? Yeah. I was going to say, though, I think a part of what I do, too, though, is I don't overload myself. I don't like having a ton of stuff on my plate. And so I try and keep it so that I don't. Like, I don't like it when I have a, like I do get stressed out when I have a lot. So I kind of control my life a little bit so that I don't have those moments that you're talking about where it all piles on top of each other because then I feel like I'm scrambling and I can't keep up so like part of how I manage it is I just don't have as many things that I'm doing like I feel like you do a lot of things okay I'm I think you're caught

in your first lie because you're going back to school you're on a show you uh you know I mean you do a lot of things but maybe you are able to not spread yourself too thin and go I could handle this I can handle this and when something you can't right yeah i have this i guess maybe it's more like i have a sense of what i can handle and i and i don't push myself too far beyond what i think i can that's good do you get annoyed easily i mean i know you do because you got annoyed with me sometimes on the set but sometimes especially if i'm tired do you know yeah or when you're hungry yes i i get like that we get we get angry but like you're dating someone do you do you find yourself like why did I just get annoyed oh I'm sorry that was such a small thing you did but for some reason

it pissed me off absolutely especially during COVID that's definitely it's more annoying like why are you eating the cake while it's in the fridge why not remove it from the fridge and then eat the cake this is necessary oh there's a printer going off in my office it's fine yeah uh yes the answer is yes I well if were him, I'd say, because I'm a guy. This is what we do. I have an Arnold Palmer. It's a jug of Arnold Palmer iced tea.

Of course, I live alone. It's different. But I open the fridge and I give a little chuggy chug. Because no one else is going to go in there and probably drink my iced tea unless they ask me. And then I'll say, hey, I just chugged on that. You might want to be. Right, but are you spilling your iced tea into the fridge?

Okay, now we're getting somewhere. So you're saying he's a little bit messy. He spills cake in the fridge. It's really irrelevant. in the grand scheme of life. But in the moment, at times, it can be annoying. I think what's funnier is the conversation maybe you have an hour later where you're like,

sweetheart, I don't know if you call him sweetheart, maybe Honey Bunny, but perhaps you just say the cake incident. I mean, you're a pig, but I shouldn't have reacted like that. And I'm sorry about the cake fight. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't ever get to fight land, but definitely it is strange. So you don't fight.

I think we don't have, like, fight fights. We'll, like, disagree or have an argument about something, but we don't, like, I don't, like, we don't have yelling, fights. I can't imagine you yelling. I would love just on this podcast one time you just laid into me. Yeah, I won't do that. That's highly unlikely. You never yell? When's the last time you yelled?

At work, because it was in a scene. Oh, it was the writing. I like the, so, so you were in a moment. And you had to yell because it's written and you're acting yelling. Yeah. I've yelled in previous, in previous relationships, you know, it's come to yelling. But only if someone else yells first. Right.

I mean, you had a good upbringing. Were your parents' yellers? No, they were, they were quietly punishing. Quietly punishing. That sounds like a song. When you say that, you do something and in a very subtle way, not to say they could shame you, but they'll say something that's just, oh, they know how to get under my skin

without doing anything, much of anything. Yeah, but there were lots of rules in my household. You had to follow the rules. What were the rules? Please, you can't go out, can't date people, you can't wear makeup. You can't do anything. You can't watch certain shows

if there's kissing in them. Well, didn't you kiss Tom on Smallville? Oh, that's different. That's when I'm older. When you're an adult, it's fine. There's rules when you're like growing up in a household. But you still live with your parents until you were, what, 19? Yeah, but my parents are very interesting.

They have a, they're very clear. Like, when a kid turns 18, they are an adult. And when they're an adult, everything stops. They don't try and parent. They don't get too involved. They don't demand my time or my energy. They're like, you do your life. We'll support you in the ways you want to be supported.

And we'll back off. you want us to back off and I feel no pressure from that. Wait a minute. So it's like, when's your birthday again? December 30. Right, December 3rd. I wanted to say earlier December, but I'm glad you said it first because then I didn't look wrong.

So on December 29th, they might have been kind of rude and said, you're going to do this. You're going to do that. And then the second you turn 18, that let her leave her alone. Pretty much. That was their theory. And I'm really, as I see some of my friends and their relationships with her parents, like, I'm really glad that they did that. Like, I just don't feel the weight of them at all.

Did you feel that teenage angst? Did you feel that, it won't let me do anything. I want to do this. Did you ever find yourself yelling at them as a kid? Yeah, of course. I was an annoying child because I called my parents. I'm not an annoying adult. I called my parents out on a lot of stuff.

I would be like, this is an inconsistent rule. And, like, what is? basically I'd be like what's what's the basis of your rule and and if I'm upholding the basis of your rule then am I not doing what I'm supposed to be doing and I get mad at them and I'd have like big arguments about what I thought was objectionable parenting um but yeah I mean I wanted to do things and I did I found ways to do things but I wasn't like a the thing is I always really saw myself as a responsible teenager you were you're not your thoughtful teens teenagers. Right. You were a responsible person, ultimately, right? Yeah, I think I, I try to be, yes.

Do you ever go back and say, mom, dad, I want to say thank you for quietly punishing me over the years. I have. I have said thank you. I mean, I've had some really interesting conversations. Becoming, choosing this profession has been weird because my, my parents don't understand why I would ever choose to be in the public eye. And oftentimes, I don't know. And oftentimes, I don't understand why I chose that either. And so it's been nice to be able to talk to them about those choices and how their parenting has allowed me to feel more grounded in that and to be able to make decisions that make me feel safe and comfortable as opposed to feeling like I need to constantly

amass more shows as an actor or whatever it is. Did they give you that approval? Did they watch them all? Did they say, hey, we're really proud of you. You're very talented. We like to watching the show. Good job. That sort of stuff that I didn't get.

Yeah, I guess. But I think it was more for them. I mean, they watched the shows. I think partly it's because I don't live at home anymore and they just want to see my face. But my dad was very clear with me. Actually, recently, too. He was like, I'm not that. He's not proud of things we do necessarily.

it's more about how we are and if we're choosing things that are making positive impacts in our communities. Wow. So you learned a lot of that from them, from your dad. Oh, yeah. I mean, my dad's, both of them are very engaged, but my dad was always heavily involved in our community. So he was a landscape. He is a landscape architect and he'd work on the parks board and just ensure that he was like engaged in the community on a very on the ground level so that the community itself would thrive and be better. That was important to him. Well, I felt, you know, I'm asking these questions because obviously, you know, it's therapy. But, you know, when I grow up, you heard it. That was a slip. You know, when I was growing up, I think there's an essence of that. I've

definitely matured a little bit, not much. But you always want to get your father's approval. You want them to be proud of you. You want your dad to say, I love you. You want these things. do you think that's something that you're really after a certain age you just didn't uh didn't need anymore is it something we all still sort of want for instance like when you're dating people did you want them to date someone that you liked that they oh sorry that they liked like my dad would like him i'm going to date him because my dad would like him i think that is a part of it for sure i even made a conscious decision in that way once i was like weighing options for myself and a part of it is like how well would my family get along with this person and would they like them

and do they have like values that are shared with with my with my family like that was important to me okay we're so different in regard in that regard in a lot of regards the difference for me was can this person I'm dating would she leave me once she met my family is there a possibility that she might say okay I could deal with it really you still you still like me, he still want to hang out with me, even though, you know, that was the opposite. Yeah, I can understand why it would be different from, I've never met your parents, but from everything that I hear, like it does it, it just sounds like we had very different. Different.

Yeah. And look, people grow. I've talked about it. My dad's growing. I think my mom tries to make, I think that, you know what, you can't change people. You just can't. This is who they are. And if I, you know, as a young girl, my parents are crazy.

Or if you're dating someone, like, I'm dating someone who's just crazy, right? I'm not saying that. I'm saying if you, if you, this is all hypothetical. But if you continue to either try to change them or expect a different outcome and you're, you're crazier. Someone's not just going to go, oh, okay, I'm going to completely be a different person now for you. No, never. I think it's unfair to them, too. Like, if you're going, like, I like these aspects of this individual and I don't like these.

So I'm going to try and control them to be other than that. Then it's so unfair. There's probably a relationship or something for them somewhere else where they can be loved for who they are as a whole, not me being like, you have to be another way. Your sister, did you have a great relationship growing up? Or was it sort of like sometimes maybe she wasn't even acting this way, but you felt like I had to kind of lessen how good small-ville is or important small-vis or any work, Beauty and the Beast or whatever show you're working on.

Did you feel like you had to just kind of go, ah, it's not a big deal, whatever, let's not talk about it because you almost, or with friends or anything, do you ever feel like that? I think we inadvertently do that, don't we? Well, I think, okay, with my sister, she's five years younger than me, she's in a very different profession. I don't think she particularly likes my work. Wait a minute. She doesn't like your work. She's told you like,

I don't think you're good. She never said that. I mean, obviously, I'm me. I interpret all things to be slightly negative. That may not be negative. But I,

it's not like, it's not important in our relating. God, you're mature. So it's a little different that way. Like, I don't feel like I have to make something smaller because it doesn't feel like

it's a big thing. that makes that my friendships yeah you don't seem like someone who wants to talk about you want to talk more about school or a book or your relationship or art or like you just escape you don't have to be always just enveloped by you know your work and all these right no i love talking about the work and and i love talking about what we can do in stories we can tell and i like gossiping at the end of the day about people at work I like doing that, but I don't feel like I need to do it with everybody. Right.

I think for me, my, you know, my brother, my younger brother, he's always been, like, we weren't, we didn't get along as kids. I mean, I wanted to kill him. I think I tried to kill him as a kid. He threw pool balls, you know, those hard ball. He would throw TVs, whatever he had in front of him. He would throw at me. We didn't get along, but there came a point where I remember he was in college.

He's like, me and my boys are watching Urban Legend, man. We're so excited. And I was like, oh, that's cool. My brother's excited about what I'm doing. And even when I made this movie that made no money, but I busted my ass and shot a little movie in Indiana, he came and did it with me. He came and helped me out. And even yesterday, yesterday I get an email with a screenshot of a picture from the movie. He's like, still love watching this movie.

Man, so much fun. It just meant a lot to me. It's like, you know, just a little moments. Do you and your sister share of that? Does she ever send a little moment? Like, oh, here's me and you. I miss you. I get, I have a nephew now.

So I get videos of him that are adorable. He's at that age where, you know, when they're little and they have that hilarious giggle that is so contagious. So she'll send stuff like that. My sister and I were never, I mean, she was my little sister. You know, I read her books and sang songs to her. What'd you sing? What'd you sing to her?

God, I, embarrassingly, I was a teenager, a young teenager, like 13, was obsessed with Disney songs. So I would just sing her like little mermaid songs or whatever. Which I still know all the words too, which I will not sing currently.

I know you're right. I know you're going to say that. I'm not going to sing it. I know that was going to happen. I don't think I've ever heard you sing. I don't know. I think I've heard you sing like kind of like. I'm a terrible singer.

I just remember you singing like for fun like hanging out like the song or you'd be just humming something or doing something and but yeah but you don't really like to sing but no one in your family was sort of um they weren't you didn't live with extroverts no no everyone's an introvert i don't my dad's the closest to an extrovert in my family we are all introverted peeps hmm so he didn't dance around in his underwear to make you girls laugh or like oh it wasn't that oh no no absolutely not he chuck us around like happily throw you around yeah yeah yeah okay that's i wanted to make that clear all of a sudden

Kristen Crook's dad Abusive, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, he threw us around I'm like, holy crap That's an excerpt, someone who doesn't know you Who just air, Kristen Crook's parents He just threw us around I wouldn't do that

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them you heard about them from my show inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum rocket money you're going back to school and it's something I really admire because I for one just always try to get out of school but you're back in school now what are you studying okay so I right before getting on this call with you I just took my final exam for my art history class but I'm just I'm working towards my bachelor's degree it's it's something i sort of wanted to do since i graduated high school but i was working and it's just i'm going very slowly because i'm working as well um but yeah i love it i love it and i don't have to go to class i can do it all online but you were going to class before this happened right no i i don't have to go so queen's university does a full distance ed program so everything

it's the same classes they offer on campus they don't offer their entire course of but you can select what you want and then just you work from home on the computer. And it's a joy. It means I can not talk to people. I can write essays on my own time. I'm really good at being self-directed, so it's perfect for me. You have no ADD. You have no, you're focused.

You could work for hours and not blink, right? Yeah, I'm very focused. You're a straight-A student, admit it. Currently, I am a straight-A student. I wasn't always. In high school, it got, you know, it was mixed, but yeah, currently I am. But to be fair to everyone in the world, I take one or maximum three classes a term. Most students are taking over five.

Would you have taken a class if it wasn't available online to go to class? Oh, I did. That's how I started this journey. When I was done Beauty and the Beast, I was like, I need to go to school. My brain feels trained. So I was doing continuing education at the university. of Toronto, which is like basically me and 65-year-old people learning about, you know, the Second World War or like mythology or, and I took a creative writing class and all of that

stuff I started. And then I was like just flirting with the idea of actually working toward my degree. And eventually I was just like, why not? I can take as long as I want and I love it. And so I just started. So 65-year-old people are pretty much the age range, around 50, 60s, 60s. who you're going to class with? No, now that I'm in university.

Well, right, I'm talking about when you went to class. Yeah, when I was going to my continuing ed classes, the people who go to continuing ed are retirees generally. So nobody recognized you. Oh, gosh, no. And you loved that. Yes. Because if you would have gone with a bunch of people your age or younger,

you probably would have to deal with, oh, hi, you're on that. Some, some, but the young, young ones, They don't really know me. So it's like a, it's a funny pocket. Like, because I'm working for my bachelor's degree, it's really young people. They're like 18, 19, 20. They're babies. And they don't know me as much.

But honestly, I think sometimes when I go to take an exam, someone will recognize me. No one cares. I care. I care. Did you ever decide that you wanted to learn another language? Because your dad's, uh, your mom's Chinese. Yeah. My mom's of Chinese origin.

She never spoke Mandarin or Cantonese. She only speaks English. My dad's a Dutch heritage, and he only speaks English. But in Canada, we take French for a long time. So I took French through high school, but I haven't practiced it in a long time. And you still love acting? Some of it, I do, yes. Burden of truth is what, third season?

We're going into our fourth season. I go to work in two weeks. And you play a lawyer. Is that a lot of dialogue? A lot of tough dialogue? Yes, it is. It's a lot. I've basically become you.

You were talking on one of our panels the other day about, like, learning your shit, like, weeks in advance. I am officially that person. I will sit. I've got, like, court scenes and they're normally through the middle of the night, and I'll have the, we are a block shooting, like, 10 pages, and it's all me. I'll just sit there for weeks beforehand, studying and studying and studying. It's just so much. And you're going to school. No time. It's so stressful.

I mean, going to school and learning all these things and trying to keep your grades up and then memorizing all these lines. I mean, that's a lot. I mean, do you, I mean, do you stress? Do you, do, do someone help you with the lines? Eric will sometimes just read lines with me at home, but then he gets annoyed. Why does you get annoyed? What is it? Well, no, because, I mean, who wants to just read lines for hours on it?

He will do it happily, but I just don't want to make him do it forever. Do you ever say Eric? Can you put a little effort into that? I feel like I'm talking to a recording. He does. He puts effort in. He acts. Is he trying to impress you or something?

No. He just likes to do anything. There's all those apps now, too, that you can put it on to your iPad around. Yeah. Right. And it will say the lines and then you say yours. And so you use that too. Sometimes.

Wow. Four seasons. Huh. I always thought. My 20th season of television. My 20th season total of television is a regular. regular 20th because you did seven of smallville seven of small four five of the show called edgemont i did four on beauty and the beast and this will be my fourth on this show that's more than i've done i think

i'm probably at like 14 i got to catch out maybe no you don't have to tvs tvs a lot you don't really that interested in pursuing that actively well i don't know who knows but you know the uh the whole virtual thing we're in this virtual world now so everybody's zooming and so you and i and tom we just did a uh a smallville virtual how weird is that for you it's very weird being on a panel in person is much easier because we can i can see you guys weird there's no lag i can get a sense of what you're feeling or what's going on when we're in this world it's very difficult to figure out when there's a break in conversation we can't use our bodies as cues to talk the guys it feels very disconnected and strange and there's no

audience so i can't tell if they're bored if they find something interesting like there's just so much engagement when we're in person that we just can't have in this world i really like when um people are very forthcoming or very uh they take the initiative they sort of say hey so blah And they start asking stuff because have you ever had those situations where someone just staring and they're looking at you and you're like, hey, how are you? Good. Okay. So, you know, sometimes those are hard. And I'm sure for me, I could do it because I, you know, I just like, you know me.

But you, you know, you might have a little tougher time doing that. You mean on the one on ones? Yeah, the one on ones. Yeah. I find most people I can just talk to them. Either I can, either they want to ask me questions or they just want me to talk. So I will ask them where they are, how they're doing. The time goes by very quickly.

And I find it yammering for a bit. What are the questions you're asked on a repeated basis? I don't actually know the answer to that, which is weird. I can't think of a repeated question currently. I mean, you probably get a lot of Lana Lang questions, right? Yeah, yes, I do. I get a lot of that. But some people know that I'm really, really excited about burden of truth.

So they'll ask me about that because either they are legitimately fans or they know that I am a fan of the show. And they'll ask me about scenes or about how I felt about certain storylines. But mostly they want to tell me that they loved the show and how they felt about it and what it meant to them. And does that connect with you a lot? Because I know when you're caught up in it, we all are like, you know, We're doing it where we don't understand the impact things can have, you know, and we feel like, oh, this is silly. It's just a TV show. People are risking their lives all over the world to help people.

Those are the heroes, right? But then you're like, when you hear some of these stories, it, you know, it's touching. Do you, are you ever, I mean, do you have to hold back emotion? Have you ever been emotional with someone's sort of? Of course. More when we're in person with them, I think people feel more comfortable to be intimate in those situations. Maybe not everybody. Some people feel safe with the distance of the virtual.

but yeah I mean and I feel I feel what people are going through I think that's part of communicating with other individuals and having any sense of what's going on for them you've got to experience as much as you can and what they're what they're telling you they experienced and that's that is emotional for sure are you what are you doing during this whole time of uh you know the pandemic are you do you go out at all are you mostly staying home or what are you what are you doing and how are you uh What's your reaction towards it in terms of like how you're dealing with? How are you dealing with it? Well, honestly, I, my life's pretty close to the same as it always is.

But the difference is like, I miss little things. I miss going to the movie theater. I miss going to a restaurant. I miss kind of like being in the vicinity of other people. Like, we live in cities for a reason. There's something about absorbing the energy of that city and I miss doing that. But what I've been most concerned about in my immediate community is the businesses that are around. So I've tried to support them. So in my, my day-to-day life, now we're quite open in

this city. Like a lot of restaurants are opening up, blah, blah, blah. So I'll try and go and eat on people's patios. I don't want to go inside yet. I support my gym, work out with them out in the park. You know, I just try to engage in that way. Otherwise, I'm just at home. Why do you think Canada? Why do you think you're in Canada? Toronto? Toronto? Toronto, yeah. Why do you? Why do you think things are working well there now why do you think in Canada everything's kind of working and opening what do you think the reason is behind that I think there's a bunch of stuff I think our government never denied the fact that this was a real issue I think that there's a little there's become more consistency in the messaging I mean obviously this is a new

virus we've never experienced it before science is constantly learning more and we have to change what we're doing based on that. I think that we have less of this pull to the idea of personal freedom. And I don't know why that messaging started happening in the U.S. Like somehow your freedom is being impinged upon. But we don't seem to have that same problem. Not that we don't, there are people who are protesting still. I don't know.

I mean, I do think a big part of it is like having government officials who are saying that it's real and that it matters and that we're in this together. Right. There's just a mixed message here of like, you know, one, you know, the president's saying this and he's not wearing a mask. So he's showing people that, hey, it's not a big deal. Then his scientist is saying another thing, but he's keeping him around even though he doesn't agree with it. It just, it's kind of like a, you know, and I don't get political in here, but that's just the thing. It shouldn't be political. So it's just, it shouldn't be. And it's obvious what we should do and what we need to do. I think the feathers become so steeped in conspiracy theories is so crazy.

Well, the one thing that gets me, and I just don't know how they could think this is all about the election. So we're compromising the health of the entire planet in every country so we can win an election. It's the most asinine thing. I could understand the Russians rigging the whole thing. That is fathomable. I'm not getting political. I'm saying it is not political. I feel like George C. Scott, it is not in the files.

That's how he talked. I don't know if you know that. It is not. So, okay, so it sounds like you've got shit going on. It's, you're together because there is just, I think everybody has come together in the, the nation of Canada. And they have said, hey, this is the deal. Let's wear masks. Let's be respectful.

And this will blow over. As opposed to, I ain't doing that. Yeah. And I think the other part of it, too, and this is changing right now a little bit, but the government supported people with money. People have been getting money during this time from the government. So they don't have to feel the pressure to go back to work. Whereas I feel like you guys have been left in the lurch a little bit in that way.

And for people to survive, they need to go back to the workplace. I think in both countries, we're dealing with a lot of, like you're seeing income disparity. and there are certain people who don't have privilege and who do have to go to work regardless. But I do think Canada has financially supported individuals, which on the ground means that you really don't have to go and risk your kids' lives or risk your life by going out. I just want everybody to live.

I want people that were, you know, I just want to get back to the way things were. And in order to do that, sometimes you have to go against what you think is maybe, or maybe what you want to do. Like, you know, I don't want to do that. but I'm going to do it. Sometimes that's what we do. We do that all the time in a relationship. You know what? I'm going to compromise. And if you don't compromise, the relationship's going to

implode. Everything implodes when you don't compromise. And if you don't respect and love, it will implode. Things don't go right. Well, they don't go well. You plan to study forensic science. Is that because you love watching stuff that's really dark and cold case files and stuff like that? What is it that like you thought about that? I know you didn't do that, but what wasn't? was interested in criminology, mostly, and it was because I was interested in human psychology, which is the same reason I loved acting. I was obsessed with understanding why people thought the way they did, what drove people to commit crimes or to be violent, or, you know, just to exist the way they did at all. And I was very fascinated with understanding that aspect of human nature better.

And that's why I really wanted to do that. But did you watch that dark stuff? Are you kind of like you don't go? I didn't. I didn't when I was in high school. I wasn't really allowed to. I mean, I was interested in it like when I read books. I was interested in books that were that explored a little bit more tumultuous emotions and, you know, darker themes, I suppose. But it wasn't ever like, it wasn't ever like serial killers or things like that. But yeah, definitely interested in the kind of the darkness of human nature. What do you do to stay straight in terms of like your mind straight, keeping things together, keeping? Because we talked about that in the beginning, how you're sort of even killed. You're, you know, you try not to get too upset. You try not to be

overwhelmed not spreading yourself too thing but what do you do what do you uh are you going back to karate like you did when you were a kid i mean what what are you doing physically mentally what is what is your routine i exercise how often that's really um i probably take one day off a week so i'll exercise it won't be excessive i don't excessively exercise but like i'll do cardio or I will go to a weightlifting, you know, class. So I'll do that as about six days a week sometimes a little less depending on my course load. If I'm busy with other things or if I'm working. And how long is it a class? An hour. Yeah. I don't normally work out more than an hour. How do you feel when you don't do it? When you don't. I get like tickly. Like it doesn't feel

good. There's energy that needs to be expended and I am not doing that. So exercise is a huge part of my mental health, I think, and it always has been. I mean, I've been active since I was, you know, a little kid. It's a huge part of my family's life. It's just what I learned how to do. Yeah. And I think mentally, I think I don't do it as actively as maybe I used to, but it's also practicing, not going into like thought spirals. I will actively pull myself out of thought spirals. I think everybody listening, we do the same thing. Whenever we work out or we go for a walk or we do anything that we exert energy,

you know, bad energy, whatever it is, we know, we see immediately that this is good. That you could see it, unless like you've never worked out in your life and the first time you're going to start, it's going to be like tough and shitty and there's nothing good about it. But knowing how you feel, but then there's some kind of psychological. where we know we're going to feel better when we do this, but we don't, and then we feel shitty, and then we wonder why we're feeling shitty. It makes a huge, huge difference. And then because I've been running, which I have, I've never done previously, I'm not a runner.

And now I've kind of become a runner. There's a meditative aspect to it as well, which I think is really helpful finding, and I think that's, that is also the same thing I was talking about before, finding ways not to go in thought spirals. I think running allows for the space to create like a meditation where you know you can watch thoughts come and go and you can feel your body go through tension and release like it's it's like a I think it's a good practice for me personally does Eric your boyfriend does he does he exercise too as much as you do he doesn't right now because he's in a writer's room but he does now he didn't before but for him and he wouldn't mind me saying this for him for him. For his mental health, it makes a huge impact in his life. His anxiety gets really intense if he's not exercising. Yeah, and you obviously notice it.

You're like, hey, you're, you know, you could see those things. I wish I had somebody there with me who would say, hey, go do this, somebody to also be held accountable. Like, you have to be held accountable for your own ship, but it's nice to, like, rely on someone else to say, get the fuck up and go for a run. You know you're going to feel better. And if you don't, I have to sit here and deal with your bullshit. Right? In a way, I mean, and you have to deal with your bullshit. Just go for a run. Go do something. I wish I had somebody here to just remind me that I, yeah, that I should exercise.

Well, it's hard when you're inside your own head because you're dealing with yourself. It's really hard sometimes to get outside of yourself. So having anybody who can be like, I think you're doing this thing right now. You can be like, you can see it. Like they can shine light on something. And then how you choose to react to that is whatever. But yeah, I think that it does help to have, have help. It does. Are you able to, oh, you're pretty open with your feelings. Do you pretty much, you feel something you know, to hold it in for a month and then go, hey, remember last month when you said, what? Last month, I'm a dude.

I can't remember what I had for, you know what I mean? Do you tend to like bring things up? Like, you know what? This happened. I just want to bring it up. It bothered me a little bit. Are you able to do that with anybody? Yeah.

Now, I think now I am. If we had had this conversation when I was 21, I would have said, no, I can't. I have no idea how to talk about my feelings, talk about what's bothering me, even acknowledge that something is bothering me, that I have the right to have something bother me. But now I feel fairly capable most of the time of being. First of all, I can acknowledge when I'm feeling something. I can see when I'm making something up.

I can address it. So it's made a big difference in my life and my relationships. I imagine I'm much easier to be around now. You've always been easy to be around, Krista. Inside of you is brought to you by Rocket Money. If you want to save money, then listen to me because I use this. Ryan uses as so many people use Rocket Money. It's a personal finance app that helps find and cancel your unwanted subscriptions.

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deal with any of that? Well, I mean, my grandparents have all passed away, but I think like my grandmother that I was closest to, she died when I was quite young. And it had a big impact on my life, but I was six, you know, very different. And as as an adult, like when it comes to the finality of loss in regards to like death, for instance, I haven't, I haven't had anyone very, very close to me pass in a way that was traumatic for me. But I mean, I've dealt with loss in less permanent ways. Relationships, you know?

Yeah, loss of relationships, like multiple friendships that have proven to be, you know, really destructive in my life. So things like that I've had to think. face and and i think it's certainly given me a more deep experience of life yeah and it's funny because the relationships you know you think of death when you think of like but a relationship it is or you know it feels like death sometimes i've had those feelings in my stomach where i'm like oh my gosh i can't function because of of this uh of a breakup or whatever and it's like you know that's it's incredibly it's incredibly painful something that you have to keep in check and

I think it is painful. It's just a different kind of, again, I haven't had anyone really close to me past that isn't, you know, a grandparent, but the loss of death, I think, is very different. I mean, you could speak to that more than I could than the loss of relationship, that you're grappling with different things. Sure. All right, this is called shit talking with Kristen Crook. These are my lovely patrons, and they're big supporters of the podcast. And they have some, this is rapid fire. So you could go. as fast as you want. If you feel like you need to talk about something, here we go. This is easy. I'm bad at rapid fire. It's my worst. I like this spot right here. Keep their hands like that. This is like, yeah, this is a fact of beauty and the beast here. It is. It's very

what's that movie with the eyes, the hands in the eyes? Um, Pan's Labyrinth. Pan's Labyrinth. I love. I love that you know that horror movie and I love yeah. Okay, God. All right. Shit talking, Kristen Crook. Jamie Ced, does Scotty really know what? I'm sorry. I should know that. It's from a movie, Michael.

Okay, sorry. He didn't know. Okay. There you go. Jamie, he didn't really didn't know. Lisa H. I absolutely love Beauty and the Beast. Do you feel they could have ended the series better? I know it was canceled like so many other great shows, but I felt there was so much more story to tell and should have been given a proper send-off. I kind of like the way we ended the show. But yeah, I think there were always more stories to tell with that show. Was that a hard series to shoot? Yeah. I mean, it was a nighttime show. It was a beast. He was a military experiment.

Oh, I saw it. Yeah. He was really good looking. Good looking guy. Yes, he's a good looking guy. Okay. Just I wanted to say it. I didn't even ask if you wanted to say it.

I noticed he was a handsome guy. Steph, I always do that. I had a dream about Bradley Cooper last week. I woke up and I was like, wow, I dreamt about Bradley. It wasn't sexual or anything. But I just remember going, man, that's a cool guy, that Bradley Cooper. Anyway, Steph, between small. Smallville, Burden of Truth, Edgemont, Beauty and the Beast, honestly, which role is closer to how you are as a person?

I think probably Joanna from Burden is closest to me, but I'm not as intense as her. She's really, really intense. But you also grew on each show, too, so it's not really, it's not an easy question. Because Smallville, the first season, then you look at you, maybe Smallville later or a show later. No, definitely not Lana. I definitely am not her. No. Who said you were?

I'm not Catherine. I just think I'm probably closest to Joanna. Oh, maybe I'm like Laurel. Actually, maybe I'm like Laurel. She's from Edgemont. I mean, yeah, Edgemont. Carly H. As somebody who's naturally shys away from the spotlight,

how did you handle those first few months of fame on Smallville? I've talked to you about this a long time ago. And how have you learned to deal with it in the decades later? So because I remember, yeah. Handled it terribly. I really struggled with it. And I think part of how I've handled it, actually this kind of ties back into what we're talking about overwhelm, I kind of changed my life. I didn't take certain roles.

I didn't do as much press. I kind of pulled myself away from the spotlight a little bit because I didn't like how famous we were when we were on Smallville. Yeah, it scared you. It wasn't for you. I wanted all of it. And, you know, Tom wanted part of it. And, you know, I think I want, you know what it was? It was nice to be on a show finally that people were like, you know, they looked at you

and it was, I'm not going to lie. I mean, when people were like, you know, they loved a character and I could tell the writers love the character and the other cast members appreciated my work. It was just really nice. It was nice to get that sort of feeling of like, hey, dude, you're doing something right. You're on a good show. You're good. So, yeah, I mean, it was kind of nice.

It was good with people. Like, I don't think people scary. like they scare me sometimes sure which makes it easier to deal with people paying attention to you yeah I'm an attention horror Sophie M hi Kristen do you have a favorite line you got to deliver

as Lana Lang I don't even remember lines from people I don't remember any of the lines How about the one Clark you're gorgeous I want you I like that line I don't think I ever said that line You didn't say that Lex I really love you Lex I love you so hot I don't think he said that one

one either. Janelle B. last one. What type of books do you like to read the most? And what is your absolute favorite go-to book to read? Here, she lit up. She lit up. Look at her. She's on fire. She loves reading. Hey, listen, I have been actively broadening my reading scope. So I've been getting more into science fiction fantasy, which wasn't my thing. But I'm loving N.K. Gemison. She is a genius and amazing, super creative and unique writer. And then I think I'd normally read contemporary fiction. I live in that world. But I also love, you know, going back to my old and times, I love classical literature too. So like the Bronte sisters, I really enjoyed that kind of tortured read. But there's a book.

for quarantine while we're still in it for a while longer that i think is really excellent peter benchley's jaws mandel what sorry sorry i jumped in and said peter benchley's jaws oh what is it emily st john mandel wrote this book called station 11 and it's about um the world going into a pandemic and it escalates more than ours has and it follows like a theater truth, a Shakespeare theater troupe that goes through the United States and a caravan. And it's really complex and the characters are fascinating and it's hopeful. It's like a pandemic read that leads you hopeful for humanity's future, not devastated and in despair. There's also this horror movie you should check out.

No, I'm just kidding. That's why I watch. I mean, I watch a lot of horror movies. There's a movie Relic I liked. I liked, I liked hereditary. It follows. There's a new one called host where it's a Zoom call for the, they, the, hereditary is pretty good.

It's a Zoom call. It's called host, H-O-S-T, it's new, and it's all filmed like these five girls are zooming each other, and then horror happens, and it worked. I kind of liked it. I didn't tell you this, I don't think, but we went to go visit Eric's cousin, and actually someone I did gymnastics with for a long time in Amsterdam. am. And this was a while ago now, but her partner is a director and loves horror. They both love horror. So they gave, they made a crash course because I was like, I don't get it. I don't

get horror. I don't like it. I don't understand it. And it was like basically a whole list of horror movies to watch from the classics through like, you know, more gory stuff to like weird. Did you watch them? Yeah, we watched like pretty much every single one. And I've come. to really, I think, appreciate the form. There are things I don't love, like, I don't love, you know, the saws of the world, but

I love what you can do in horror. I especially, I really like the older, the older. Alien. Alien. Please say that. So good. And as you love it, that's just a kick-ass woman at the end. Yeah. That's great.

How about, I mean, Jaws, the Shining, Exorcist, Omen. I don't think Jaws. Oh. The shining, obvious. I really I mean I love like old like psycho I love oh I'm telling you that scene when he comes down with a knife in the basement at the end is one of the most horrifying moments in horror history I to this day that scene is just incredible it really is yeah so I like this I like that you're experimenting with horror you just you know you maybe I'll have to start reading I guess I'm going to start reading give me a couple of books that you think I could actually read maybe if they have pictures or if you're there are less than 200 pages? I just read a horror book called Only Good Indians. Okay.

It's a hardcover right now. I'm not sure if you would like it like because I don't know what you would like to read. It's pretty short, but it kind of, it follows a group of men who are indigenous and they have, some of them have left the reservation, but there's like, it takes place in the States. and they did something in the past that has come back to haunt them. Is it scary? Tracking them all down. What?

And it's scary. It's a horror, yeah. Okay. Send me that. No, just email me and I'll go get it. Okay, I'll email too. This has been fun. You know, it's funny because I know, I'm sure you were thinking the same thing.

You were probably thinking, oh, what is he going to ask me? I mean, we talked like a long time ago. But at this time I have you on film, we could see your nice face, and we could talk. And we got to talk about a lot of other things. we did you know we kind of delved in the little things and it was uh i always love talking to you i like talking to you too yeah it's easy right it is easy yeah because i know you don't like interviews all the time i don't you're correct i don't but i like talking to people that i know okay what's that globe behind you where what country is it on what continent it's not like a real

it's like old and timey oh it's like uh yeah it's like almost like uh what's uh what's the old time things uh or they were you know, like Genghis Khan and, uh... It's like, it's just cool. That's just cool. Show and tell. All right. I love you.

I'll talk to you soon. Talk to you later. Bye. Bye. Bye. Yeah, she's just a good person, isn't she? Delight. She is.

She's, uh, I, you know, it's just, I always, when you talk to someone like Kristen, I always feel like, uh, it's not that she makes me feel this way. I think just I make myself feel this way. But it's sort of like I'm like, I think, I think, I'm like, I, I, I've got to do better. I've got to be a better person. I've got, Kristen's got it together. You know, that's why I think I do this show,

because I'm hoping that people don't exactly have it together all the time. And I think that's true, even for Kristen, I don't think she has it together all the time. She has her moments, they get in arguments, you know, in the interview, we hear this stuff. But it's nice, and it's always nice to talk to someone I've worked with and known so long, and so there you have it. Another big shout out to all the patrons out there.

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Arrangement of hairs for it though Are you not hairy No Did I see your chest Not at this moment no Okay I'll show you later Oh, yeah.

Okay. Patrons, I guess the patrons are getting their shoutouts now. I do love them. Many of these names I just wrote letters to. That's true. Should we have sort of a build-up, like a drum roll for the patrons now? Can you do kind of a little drum roll? Yeah.

All right, here it goes. Oh, yeah, here we go. And Nancy D. Mary B, Leah, S, Trisha F, Sarah, V, Little Lisa, Yukiko. Jill E, Brian H, Lauren, G, Nico, Angelina G. Robin S. Jerry W. Emily K. Bob B. Robert B. Jason W. Stephen J. Kristen K. Not Kristen K. Kristen K. Maybe that's Kristen Krook. Is it possible? Kristen Krook is a... No. No. She wouldn't be a patron. Amelia O. Allison L. Tom N. Jess J. It'd be nice if Welling was a patron. He would just give me shit the whole time.

Lucas M. Raj. Emily S. C.J.P. Samantha M. Hamza. Monsa B. Jennifer N. That's not Niro, that's Jennifer N. Jackie P, Stacey, B, Carly, T, Jennifer S, Janelle, B. Cary B, Tab of the 272, not to be confused with. Tab of the 273. Thank you. Kimberly E. Crystal H. Mike E. Marissa.

Romira. Beth B. Chris F. Santiago. M. Sarah F. Chad W. Lian P. Rachian. It's really Rachel, but Rachian. Ray A. My, P. I just zoomed with everybody. I had a big zoom of like 50 of the top tier members. And we all zoomed it up. It was great.

And I got to see everybody's face. Oh, my God, he had 50 people on one Zoom. 50, and I was there for, like, over an hour and a half. And it was, it was awesome. Exhausting, but awesome. I think they were, they loved it, and I loved it. It made me happy. Maya P.

Maya P. Megan D., Jennifer C. Maddie S. Tiffany I. Kendrick F. Ashley E. Margie M. Thomas T. Matt W. Belinda and Benjamin R. Lisa J. Kevin V. Robert S. Joy W. Mike W.

James R. Chris H. H. Snow R. Noah K, Sean V. Osbourne, H. Osbourne? Osbourne. Osbourne. Osbourne. Osborne. Osborn. I was born. I was born. To love you.

I was born to lick your face. I was born. That's from Caddy Shack. Dave H. I, again, guys, patrons, I couldn't do it without you. Thanks for the extra support. And everybody out there listening, just the fact that you guys listen to me every week means a ton of me. I love doing what I'm doing. I love working with this guy sitting across from me.

I love Bryce. thanks to Westwood one for really getting the podcast out there and giving us a real shot and live your best life you know all right thanks for allowing me to be inside of each and every one of you this has been fun hi I'm Joe Sal C hi host of the stacking Benjamin's podcast today we're going to talk about what if you came across $50,000 what would you do put it into a tax disadvantaged retirement account. The mortgage. That's what we do. Make a down payment on a home. Something nice. Buying a vehicle. A separate bucket for this edition that we're adding.

$50,000. I'll buy a new podcast. You'll buy new friends. And we're done. Thanks for playing everybody. We're out of here. Stacking Benjamin's follow and listen on your favorite platform.