Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Lance Bass

Episode Date: September 29, 2020

Lance Bass (NSYNC) joins me this week and opens up on everything from the emotions and anxieties of his public coming out, to the stress and hectic lifestyle he’s become accustomed to after his tenure in NSYNC. Lance shares what’s been like to share his lifestyle in Hollywood with his traditionally set southern family. We also get into upcoming projects based on insane NSYNC groupie stories, his frustrations with the IVF process, and betrayals he’s experienced in life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm not alone. I'm not alone. So please forgive me. No, I'm not in love. Remember? I'm not in love. It was a 70 song. I hope you guys had a great week.

Thank you for again supporting the show listening to it, subscribing to it. And also, if you're listening for the first time and you're just a big Lance Bass fan, That's perfectly okay. But please subscribe and follow us at at Inside of You podcast on Instagram and Facebook and at Inside of You pod on the Twitter. By the way, William Shatner tweeted me. I saw. He tweeted me.

He says, Michael Rosenbaum, blah, blah, blah. Maybe you should something about, you know, talking to this other fan that was tweeting. But he singled me out. And I go, William Shatner, well, if you say, so holy crap one of my heroes here is bill shatner i go maybe you come on the podcast and he goes oh i'm sorry i don't i don't book i don't book podcasts well i could have someone else book it for you sir i don't think he's in his 80s he's 90 i think is he 90 how old's bill shatner all right right now everybody guess a number guess a number i'm going to tell you how old he is i'm going to say he's

87 85 okay what do you guys think out there here is the answer he just turned 89 years old. Fuck. And I just saw him at a convention and we talked. He's always reading. You know, I don't want to get into it really, but I started to watch The Vow on HBO Max. Oh, yeah.

And I didn't really know anything. You know, obviously, you know, one of my co-stars, Allison was a part of that and didn't go well to say the least. But I noticed in my Twitter feed, it's a very provocative. it's an insane story and in fact i when i was watching the first episode you know it's it became this this colt and a lot of dark shit happens i'm not going to give it away you should watch it but um the first episode i'm like i could use that i could use like self-esteem and all these certain things that i was like i could see i could understand why people get into it yeah and then

unfortunately you know yeah shit goes on and uh bad people I just have so many questions and my point of this whole thing is it's tragic. It's tragic. But when I was on Twitter, I noticed someone liked to tweet or said something. And I go, huh, oh, I follow them.

They follow me. Oh, I know this person. For years, I just haven't. And I realize it's one of the main people, one of the main people's people on the documentary. And this person I said, hey, you know, tell me to F off, but I'd love to have it on the show and talk about, you know,

talk about adversity. Talk about, I mean, people were branded. Women were branded. There were slaves and like all this, you know, crazy shit. Have you seen it? No. And I really didn't know much about it. But I'll get into it later because we have a guest coming on the show in a few weeks.

I feel like they're very brave. I mean, I don't think you get it. most people in fact i would say 99% of people get into something an organization because at that moment in time that's what they need and you don't think cult you don't think that you think no these are just nice people who understand me who i'm learning from i'm not caught up in the bullshit world you feel like you're somebody you're something it gives you again we'll talk to this person so i understand and then it falls apart and you're like how did this happen and uh hopefully luckily you know some people left early because they're like something's weird something's not right i'm getting the hell out i won't

name those people but good for them for having that insight or that um what's the word uh self awareness maybe maybe self awareness you're here for words but anyway that guest uh is coming on in a few weeks and you know talk about if you're going through anxiety and all that stuff boy this is story that uh you should listen to and i'm very excited about this person coming on so there's that i want to thank all my patrons uh again without you guys where would i be all the listeners i noticed the subscriptions are getting higher on youtube that's so cool man thank you all for doing that thank you for uh watching our stage it we just recorded uh two days in the studio for our album just very exciting stuff and i appreciate all support uh patreon if you're not on patreon check it out patreon.

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Oh really? It's a wine stemless wine glass Inside I love coming here and getting free shit You do, I gave you towels, we got towels What else have I given you? The mask? You gave me the flip flops Mugs? Oh don't mention the flip flops Because I don't have those online

Those are just a rare thing Maybe I'll put them online, I don't know I just like stuff I like merch so there there you go all right my guest today you know him from one of the biggest bands of all time in sync he's a wonderful guy I love him he's super talented he's got some great projects coming up he's got his own podcast I love hearing the stories about in sync you're going to like them and he talks about coming out he's very brave and we really we get a little deep so I think

you're going to like this. Let's check it out. Tell me how you feel about it. Let's get inside of Lance Bass. It's my point of view. You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. 99.5 WKDQ. We got Lance Bass here in the studio. I'm kidding. If I talk like that, Would you please kiss me. What's up, Rosembaum? How are you, dude? What's up?

I mean, same stuff. Just haven't left this green couch in about five months. I'm colorblind, but I assume it is green, isn't it? It is. A nice lime green. Although I do see color. I mean, I can see colors. I just can't differentiate some.

You are full of color. You've got roses on your shirt. Is that because you're talking to Rosenbaum today or what? Duh. Oh, my God. I didn't think you would like put that together. But yes, this is my Rosenbaum shirt. You're a liar.

You didn't think about it. You didn't think about me until you said five minutes ago. Lisa, what's next? Michael Rosenbaum. Who am I, I'm not Jewish. It's not true. It's not true. You know, I look forward to talking to you every single time.

Well, it's been a long time. Yeah, I know we haven't, like, I haven't seen you in person in a while. I haven't seen anyone in a while, but yeah. Have you been sitting on that green couch for the last five months? Yeah, this is where I do my podcast right here. So it's just every day. Wow. Listen, this is truth.

I want to talk truth today. We always talk truth on the show, but do you, I mean, look, you're a, you're a fun guy, you're a nice guy, you're charitable, philanthropic, your, you know, talent, all that crap, right? All that crap. But, like, sometimes I, I can, like, feel like I'm losing my mind. Like, some days, I, you know, the other day there was no, remember, there was no, there was no, uh, internet and I've been having problems with the internet. And I just, it was one of those days and I had to cancel.

I hate canceling on people. like this isn't my fault i always feel like i'm always on time have you felt any anxiousness where someone's been like whether it's your husband or what you know do you say husband is that incorrect i can say yeah that's correct right i thought you were going to correct me i was like yeah husband yeah that's right we've evolved a little at least yeah husband is the word thank god yes but does he ever say does he look at you and say lance fuck off you're going crazy right now um not really he is this the most easy-going person in the world. So it's really hard to piss him off.

And I've tried for 10 years. It's just, he's just not that type of person, which is at first was hard to kind of get used to. Because my relationships, I always dated a lot of Brazilians. So it was very, like, passionate relationships, right? And I always felt that, oh, well, in a real relationship, you're supposed to fight hard, right? Make up hard. Then when I met him, I realized, oh, wait, you don't have to fight to show that you love each other. Interesting.

Now I want to hear about these fights with the Brazilian guys. Like, Lance, why are you so? I don't know, boring. Why can we go? I'm a terrible accent. But what were those like? Do you remember any of the past? Any fights that you were like, oh, my God.

Oh, yeah. It always stemmed from the same thing. They would always just get jealous if I was like, you know, speaking to someone. You know, they always think that you're cheating on them. That was it. You're cheating on me like, no. So it was. And the funny thing is,

they were the ones that were cheating really every time oh yeah like every time yeah uh and you never cheated you're not that guy no i don't do that well i mean i don't think i can you know being who i am like people are going to talk shit about me you know right i mean geez i can't i can't even imagine like you know so they were it was all out of insecurity it was all out of like whatever it was and that's all you knew and now you come into a new relationship how you've been married for what six years uh it'll be six in december yeah All right. And it's just like the extreme opposite of what you're used to. Now that's, that's important to, because it's hard, especially me, like, you know, I've been dating and this and that. And you always think this is my type. This is what I want. This is what I should have. I've always thought I should be with this type of girl. Now, now how hard is that? That's hard. To then just say, this isn't working. When does that moment come about where you're like, this hasn't been working? I've got to try something new. was that what it was oh yeah i mean for sure it wasn't even it wasn't a conscious thing i don't

think i just think when it landed in my lap i started realizing a few months in like oh this is different and in a really good way um so you know i was just i wasn't i wasn't used to it and i've just never been a relationship where everything was just always funky dory but did you question it like almost like this is not who i should be with i can't be with this guy he's too Mel, he's too nice. Oh, and at first I thought he was, like, faking it. So I'm like, okay, there's no way this guy can be like this nice and this easy going. Like, this is ridiculous.

Like, why is he lying to me? But then, you know, one, two, three, four, ten years later, you're like, you're like, you're the same person. So, yeah, it's just who he is. Did you ever do things where you're like, I want to get under his skin? I want to get a rise out of him. I want to see him flip his lid. Oh, yeah, all the time, especially early on in our relationship.

I wanted to kind of test those boundaries. and annoy him a little bit just to see how he would react. And I wouldn't get a reaction out of him. So it made me stop. When was the moment where you said, all right, you're for real? It was very quickly. Yeah, I mean, God, we moved in together probably like five months after we started dating. So it was around like the five-month mark where I'm like, yeah, this is my man.

Wow. I love that. It gives me hope. you know it does give me how yeah uh yeah i mean it's just it's unbelievable how i think you have to sometimes i mean i go to therapy i do all these things i just i you know you think you have a type and then one day you're like well that's just not working for me do i want to be alone the rest of my life and i think we all tell ourselves especially when we're young like what my type is you know it's like describing your personality as like i'm the shy one but then you start and you start

feel like you have to be that way, you know? And then in relationships, like, well, no, I'm going to try to the Brazilians. Like, you're just getting this, like, kind of rut of, like, what people are expecting you to be. And then you just kind of grow out of it at some point. Was he a fan of yours? No. Definitely not.

No. He was, I mean, if he were to choose Backstreet or Insink, it'd probably be Backstreet because his sister was into it, his twin sister. So, yeah, they did not grow up in sync fans. did he know the words to any of your songs or was nothing nothing no not at all no and you like that i mean yeah i mean it's uh i mean it's refreshing for sure um i mean it doesn't bother me if someone liked my stuff you know before we met uh but yeah no he was he was very removed from the whole in sync experience and you believed it you believed that he didn't because i've had some you know

look i could give you bad examples where you know many years ago i haven't been a club in 15 years But my dog's barking, but that's just life because I'm quarantined and they're here and that's what it is. But I've been in the, you know, I remember going to a club and some girl comes up to me and she's just drunk and she's like, I don't know who you are. I don't care. I don't like, are you someone I should know? I, you know, and I was just like, why are you talking to me then? I mean, why go up to someone randomly and it was just. Oh, it used to happen to me all the time.

And I love the ones. Yeah. And they're always like a little drunk or a lot of drunk. And they're like, hey. I don't recognize you I'm like okay they're like no I don't I don't know who you are you

like why would you come up to someone to say I don't recognize me right right have you have you have you have yeah if you had people come up to you I've had this I mean I've had where they're just like oh my gosh you look so much better on the show or a movie not only that

I get I get this like when I meet people in person like wow you're like you're better looking in person like really better looking at person. I'm like, oh, okay, I guess I looked like hideous on television.

I think they're in their minds, they're thinking they're, I'm going to go up to Lance Bass and I'm going to say this and he's going to be like, oh, not only was it a nice thing to say, because that's in their mind, but it was really honest, which most people, I think a lot of people

when they approach celebrities or whatever, they think that they want to hear things that no one else will say. Right. Like, no one said this before, right? Lance, let me tell you something. And, like, you're going to look at them and think, oh, my God, this is, I need to be with this. I need to hang out with this person.

Yeah, we need to be friends now because, yeah, you're so different, yeah. Oh, I mean, I look at all this stuff and you're just, you're so busy. I mean, you got the Deli Popcast with Lance Bash, the movie with TriStar. I, I'm only saying this part because I hope this is real because it just sounds really good. the movie that you have in development about two girls who won an RV on the Price is Right and followed InSync around on tour. That's a true story?

It is a true story. Yeah, if you were an InSync fan, especially during our Pop Odyssey tour days, yeah, these two girls that weren't even in sync fans. They were, you know, they were 21 years old, so they were a little too old to be in sync fans. They hashed a plan, thought it'd be funny to, hey, let's go to the Price is Right. one of us will win a Winnebago and enough money to be able to follow in sync on their stadium tour for three months.

And the joke became reality. One of them got on the show. She won a Winnebago. Like, I don't know how she, I mean, how do you know that you're going to be, have a chance to win Winnebago? And it was the biggest prize ever given on the Price is Right to date. And yeah, and she won it. And they followed us the whole entire summer. And it was just this amazing girls road trip, this kind of coming of age road trip that, you know, was hilarious because so much shit happened.

But how many times on this tour do you meet these girls, or did you see them? We didn't know about it until the last week of the tour. What? We had no it. Yeah, the fans knew because, you know, back in the day, there was no social media. So the fans, you know, the only way they had to have gas money to get to the next city was fans in A&A. well chat rooms when they would meet the fans in chat rooms and then they would they would help them get to the next city so it was but we didn't know this until the last week of tour and

i was watching t rl and carson daly's on the winnebago out in the parking lot in san diego and i'm watching the store and like well this is the coolest thing ever so me and the boys go out to the winnebago and say hello and we give them tickets to the rest of the shows which we would have given them tickets to all the shows if we would have known this but so we we gave them tickets for the rest of the shows and it was just amazing and I remember at that moment this was wow 20 years ago I remember thinking this is the best movie ever like that's what I thought so incredible yeah and then I've so I've been pitching it for 20 years and no one would buy this thing um so then I just did a movie last year uh about Lou Proman this documentary about Lou Promen and I think it was variety or

whoever was asking, what's your next project you want to do? I said, well, I always wanted to sell this RV movie. And I told him, you know, kind of the premise of it. And the chairman of Sony called me the next day. He was like, we're doing this movie. I'm like, okay, it's the fastest sell I've ever had. He goes, but you don't understand why. He goes, one of the girls, they're called Winter Meredith,

was his nanny for the last few years. So he knew this story already. What? He knew this girl. Yeah. What are the odds of that? I mean, it was fake. It had to have happened.

And so, you know, immediately Sony trust, I was like, yep, this is it. We're doing this. Now, do you have to get the rights from the girls? Because, I mean, it's a story. It's their story, but you can't copyright an experience. You can go to some party and go, oh, remember when this guy drank 10 beers and then shit a beer can. I'm going to write a movie. I don't know why that was the story I just did it.

But you could write about that and I go, hey, I shit that beer can. You can't steal my story. Happened to me. Can you do that? Did you go through the whole legal shit? I mean, you can, you know, they're involved with us. We've actually, you know, become close, which is nice. They're lovely, lovely girls.

They haven't spoken to each other in years, but, you know, life, you know, set you apart. But now they're really close again. They started their own Instagram account about, you know, the RV girls. But yeah, you can, you know, how it is with, you can option a newspaper article. So, I mean, these girls are public domain because they were famous. And, you know, newspapers and magazines wrote about them. So you can actually legally get, you know, go to the newspaper and say, okay, we want to option this article, you know, to write this story. But we didn't have to do that because we have the girls on board with us.

Also based, you say, based on true events. Yes. By the way, where's the RV? Don't you want to know what happened to the RV? The RV got sold. I don't know where it is, but the RV is sold. I would love to find out where that actually is because it would be fun to use the real RV in the movie. And now that's 20 years later, we had to change what everything is.

Originally, it was just going to be the original story of these 21-year-olds that did this. But now we're going to place it in 2021, where now the girls are 40 and now having this kind of like midlife crisis type situation. And they want to recapture their youth by doing this road trip again because their favorite band, which probably won't be in sync in the movie, has, you know, their walk-of-free. fame star ceremony so this is their excuse to do it all over again but it could be cool if you got the boys together and they said you at this point in their lives in sync which i know everybody's to ask you a million times wants to do the reunion tour and they're like oh my god it's our childhood dreams we should you know and then they they go see the old that's i think there's more comedy i didn't write the thing this is your project no i'm just great and i would love because my my i

idea from the very beginning was, you know, I, I thought it was a little too cheesy to use real in sync. And plus, I mean, you know, boy band fans, they're, they're very loyal. So I don't even know of half the Backstreet fans would come see this movie just because it was about in sync. You know, so I think it's funnier to be in a fictitious world. And that way, at the end of the movie, you can really stunt cast that band when you finally see it with, you know, Ryan Reynolds and Jake Gyllenhaal and like all those kind of people. I think that would just be a funnier bit at the end. I'm in. I read that. I go, this is a great idea. There's no funny movies out there. How many times do they, like, oh, exclusively on this? And it's like, you're watching, you're going, when is another funny movie? What's the last funny movie that you remember seeing, honestly? I mean, I like to rewatch movies, and the last one that actually made me laugh out loud was three amigos.

Oh, my God. 50 times, but, like, I just love it. And then, like, behind you, the jerk. Like, one of the, I just watched that the other day. Oh, yeah. I mean, I could watch Tommy Boy, and I could watch, you know, the old Sandler movies, like, you know, the happy Gilmores and the things and anything with Kristen Wigg. I could watch. And I actually, I loved Samler's new movie with Jennifer Anderson. I thought that was really, like. I didn't say that. What is that?

Yeah, it's on Netflix, I think, or Hulu. Really? I should check that out. Oh, I mean, I loved it. I thought it was silly and fun. But look at this. You have a new line of drink mixers. You have a partner with Precinct.

seco trailer called bubble tap trailer you have a food home line with qbc let me ask you this this makes me think one of two things one you just love being busy you're an entrepreneur you love to just create you love to have income coming in have the fun of doing all these things or you lost all your money in sync you have nothing left and you're starting an empire all over again uh no it's definitely the first one um you know it's uh you know a lot of my projects don't make money, so it's not, it's definitely not about the income coming in. All my businesses that were launching this year, it really hurt. You know, 2020 was going to be a huge year for LVP, Lance Bass Productions.

We were launching Virgin Fest with Sir Richard Branson in June, which is going to be an incredible music festival when we are able to do it, but it's postponed. The mixer line I was coming out with is now completely changed. We had to rebrand the whole entire thing, and that'll be coming out, hopefully, by the end of the year. So, and then the bubble tap trailer, of course, because of COVID, is not running right now. So all of my businesses are kind of dormant right now, except the podcast and the writing of this movie right now.

And then there's another TV show that I'm doing that we're writing right now, too. So you like keeping busy. You don't, you're not one of those. If you have too much time on your hands, what's the worst? What happens to you? I usually get sick. yeah if I if I if I get downtime like I start kind of shutting down it's very strange but I've been that way since I was you know a kid I joined in sync when I was 16 and I mean your schedule

was just like bam bam so you get used to this life of if you don't have something going on every minute you feel like you're being lazy that you're not working so you know after insane I just kind of kept that schedule and always you know my my brain doesn't stop creating things so the TV and film like it's just like constantly just creating stuff stuff. So it doesn't stop. So I needed to put that into, you know, a good outlet. I mean, aren't you fatigued with all the work that you do constantly doing things? I always look at this and I'm like, I don't, like, honestly, I don't, I look at some careers who have millions and millions of dollars and mansions and jets. And I'm like, not for a million

years. I don't want that life. I don't want to work this movie into another movie, into a show, into this, into that. I don't know how people do that. Now, do you, and you have to do that. Yeah, I mean, and, you know, I'm trying to get to a point where I don't have to be that crazy. You know, I always said at 40, I wanted to kind of semi-retire from in front of the camera, you know, and really focus on being behind the camera. And that's what I'm kind of parlaying into right now is, you know, I don't want to have to constantly be like, you know, getting jobs on TV just to keep, you know, relevant or whatever. I just want to be behind the scenes, write and produce great things, help other people out and enjoy life. actually, you know, enjoy vacations and having some time off. And we're starting a family now.

So I just want to focus on kids. And, you know, and I've been working so hard just to get to that level. So that's why 2020 was really depressing because all these projects were finally going to launch. And then all I had to do is manage them. And unfortunately, that's delayed now. But starting a family, you want to have kids. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Wow. Yeah, we've been. How old are you now? I'm 41. Oh, you're young. You're young. Yeah.

I mean, yeah, I'm young. But I always said to myself, look, you know, I wanted a kid by 40. Like, you know, it's like, if I'm going to have kids, like 40's the age, you know, you don't want to be too old with a grandparent and all that type of stuff. So, yeah. And Michael wants kids. You're both on the same page. Oh, yeah. I mean, that was one of the reasons I knew I was going to marry him because we, we both wanted to have kids, you know, early on in our relationship.

So then, yeah, just time kind of gets away. And then we started, you know, this IVF process about three years ago. And it's just been not a great experience. I mean, I know a lot of people have a lot of failed IVF experiences, but ours is just, it's we've gone through so many donors and now so many surrogates. It's just been such a process. And, you know, last year we were pregnant for, you know, a few weeks and unfortunately lost both of them. And so now we've made our embryos again, and now we're waiting for a surrogate.

We've got to find another surrogate in order to get pregnant because we were supposed to be pregnant last week. And then our surrogate, unfortunately, found a medical issue that she can't carry the kids. So we've got to start all over again. It's been stressful. I'm sorry. That sucks. But you know what? You know, it's going to happen.

Just know it's going to happen. And maybe with all the shit that's going on, maybe it'll be a nice Christmas surprise or Hanukkah. Who knows? I mean, I hope so. And no, and worst case, if it doesn't work this time, I mean, we want to adopt anyway, so we'll just immediately go into adoption. Inside of you is brought to you by Rocket Money. I'm going to speak to you about something that's going to help you save money, period.

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birth to those kids. You're not born ignorant. I think, you know, it's like you're product of your own environment. You know, you're raised. If your parents are fighting and hitting each other and drinking, you're in trouble. If they're talking, if they're saying racial slurs and this and that, what's going to happen to you? Nine times out of ten,

you become the racist. Very few people get out of that, break that. So, yeah, that's, I think the kids in good hands is what I'll say. Yeah, I hope So you said your parents were good parents. Now, I was thinking about that because they were conservative, probably went to church a lot, religious, right? So the first thing that I think of is when Lance comes out, most people, it's a shame, but they hold on to it for many, many more years or they keep it from their parents because they're like, you don't understand. You don't understand my mom.

You don't understand my dad. They would just, was it like that or not at all with you? Yeah, we, I mean, most of us gay people, we stay in the closet because of our families. I mean, that is, that's the number one reason that we're too embarrassed to, you know, tell our families, because we just don't want to disappoint them. And coming from a place where I came from in Mississippi, you know, it was, it was a taboo. Like, no, not one person in my high school was gay. You know, of course there were, but like, no one ever admitted it. And even today, it's still a really hard place to admit that you're gay.

I mean, it's getting better than the younger generations are fine, but that older generation still holds on to, this hatefulness of the gay community. So coming out to my family was, you know, it scared me. My friends knew I was gay. I was already on boyfriend number three before it came out to my parents. Because I wanted, when they knew about me, I wanted to make sure that I was in this like really great relationship to show them that this is about love.

This isn't about sex. This is about love. And I thought that would be a way easier way to kind of express who I was by letting them meet the love of my life. And I didn't know what to expect. And when they found out, I knew that they would be supportive, you know, in a way, but I didn't know they would be that supportive.

You know, my mom, it took her a couple of days to be able to, like, you know, catch her breath to be able to talk about it because it just surprised them. I'm like, really, did it really surprise you? I thought it was a little obvious, but, I mean, moms just, they don't, they don't see it. Parents have the blinders on.

They're not, my kid's perfect. My kid's beautiful. My kids, and you are. And they have their own, they have their vision for you. So, you know, my mom had the person I was going to marry, what the kids were going to be like. I mean, they, they have this vision of what your life is going to be. And then you know, you're about to destroy that vision for them. So, you know, I can see them kind of like, man.

And then the other thing was my mom was so upset the first couple of days, not because that was gay, but she was upset that the world was going to hate her son. Like she immediately was like half the world is going to hate my son now. And she does not want that. You know, no parent wants that for their kid. So that's the disappointment. I think you've seen a lot of families of it's not they're embarrassed or mad that their kid's gay, but they just hate how the world is going to treat them.

And they don't want that. Yeah. Wow, that's heavy. That's heavy. I just think about thinking the half of the world is going to hate my son. And the reality is. And my dad, the fun thing is like my dad, who I thought, you know, he was very conservative, like very quiet. And I thought he'd be the one with the issue.

But he was the first to be like, well, are you being safe? Like, yeah, he goes, fine by me. Like, it was just so nonchalant. Like, what? It was very, and I mean, my whole family, they're all Trump supporter. Like, they're very conservative. Yeah. Yeah, but they were super smart.

You argue with them at this point? Not anymore. What's the point? What's the point? For a while there, I thought I could educate people, you know, because one, I hate politics, but as a gay man, you've got to be political. And, you know, and I have just become political because I just feel like there's a lot of things that need to be helped in this planet environment, whatever, LGBT rights.

It's, you know, it's scary. so yeah i i wanted just to i don't know educate them and like or at least understand why they still support someone like that and it just got hated too much like there was just too much i don't know they it's it's hard for someone that follows trump to defend him right i mean you can't really defend what he's doing so in defending they get defensive and then they start it goes nowhere right right right and then they start saying well you live in this little little bubble of Hollywood and you don't know what's really happening in the world. And like, or yeah, you're in the little small bubble in little town, Mississippi that doesn't

know anything about the world. Like, which one makes more sense? You know, and you try to do in a respectful way, but there's, when people aren't hearing what they want to hear, they're not taking it as a respectful way. They think that you're judging them, that you're yelling at them, and that you think they're stupid. Because I hear that a lot. They're like, you just think I'm stupid. And I'm like, no, I'm not calling you stupid. I'm saying, yeah, you might be, have some ignorant thoughts, but ignorance is not a bad thing. Like, we're all ignorant to. Oh, yeah.

I'm an idiot. Oh, yeah. We're ignorant to most things. So we have to learn and be willing to, you know, learn about other things. But these supporters, they don't, they don't want to learn anything. They have their own mindset. Well, you know what? I think it's, it really comes down to like one or two issues.

It's like, honestly, if Trump was anti, uh, anti-abortion or a pro-abortion pro-women's rights let's call it not pro abortion let's say women's rights and pro and women should choose or whatever you know how many millions of people then would probably vote I'm not

saying there's like two things there's abortion maybe I found the two things I found the two things because I interview a lot of people what are they very interested and now that and here are the top two reasons why especially

Southern conservatives support Trump and the Republican platform. Number one, abortion. That is it. Abortion, abortion, abortion. You're killing children. How could I ever support a team that wants to kill children? You know, they don't

get educated on why it's not killing children. And if you have Planned Parenthood, it's actually saves, you know, like there's less abortions with Planned Parenthood. So if you're ultimate, how is that? Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.

But if your ultimate goal is to have the least amount of abortions, then we need to tackle that and make it, you know, where people don't get pregnant the first time. And that's your planned parenthood and all that. And then the number two that I keep hearing is because he wants to bring prayer back to schools. So it's prayer in schools and abortion. And then I tell them, like, well, you do know it is not illegal to pray in school and to have prayer groups and all that. like they people think that it's illegal to bring a bible on campus to pray on campus they're just so it's this there's all this misinformation out there so one main thing that they're holding on to why they stick with this party it's just it's just a lie it's a complete lie yeah well

there we go talking about politics i know i know and on my show too like we're political free shows i don't do it pop culture and then all of a sudden we get into it like damn it we got into six again. Yeah. Let me ask you this. Do you think your mother and father absolutely for a time and did you think this? Do you think they looked at you differently even though they said they accept you and all these things? Did you still feel like they're still judging me? I could feel it or family members or things even though they said, no, we love you Lance. We're in. No, they all think, and it's not the gay thing. It's the Hollywood thing. You know, they think I am so crazy and everything that I believe in is just so off the wall

and like crazy that they feel bad for me. Like my whole entire Mississippi family like I mean he's he's going crazy like he believes all this shit but yeah I mean it's it's really it's hard my gosh but the boys

the guys in the band they were all cool with it right oh god yeah and the guys I mean they knew they all they assumed you know so they were not surprised you know when I came out and super supportive. I mean, they've, one of the, I remember being in the group, and obviously I knew I was gay my whole life. So, you know, it was scary to, you know, have to talk to your new best friends about relationships and all that type of stuff. So I knew that at some point they were

going to find out because I wasn't really dating girls and I wasn't having sex, you know, with fans and all that type of stuff. So, yeah, it was, but I also knew that they'd be very accepting because of just how they interacted with the gay people that we would interact with. you know we're in the entertainment business our choreographers on makeup people like all that and so i knew the love they had for LGBT so i knew that it would never be an issue if they ever found out do you think guys like straight guys or girls do you think there's this sort of when they're around a gay guy or maybe even a black guy i'm getting i'm getting to the point here do you feel like they sort of put something on where it's like for instance i've been around some of my black

friends and someone will come along and all of a sudden i'm like the white guy is going oh yeah man you know totally man yeah see what you see what you're saying man i'm like what the fuck are you talking like that for what because you're around a black guy did people do that with maybe a gay man like oh i know right and all of a sudden they're acting like they think that's the stereotype do you ever get that we're like what the fuck is this yeah i mean definitely i mean i definitely fill it more with the black community when i'm around black friends and everyone starts you know just getting into the culture right it's kind of like madonna a living in England, now she has a British accent.

Just, you know, just happens, you know. But with this, I haven't seen that too much around me, but I do get a little more like Yoss queens from like straight people, which I don't know if that's, you know, been in many people's vocabulary the last few years, but I get a lot of Yaz queens. Right. I mean, I think maybe it's also like trying to fit in in their minds, trying to say I appreciate you. I'm here.

I like you. I don't know what it is. I don't think it's like saying fuck you look what I'm it's just I notice those things right you always I could tell and my black friends would notice he's like do you hear out he was talking to me I'm like yeah man you should say something's like now you're talking to me like that don't say that but um you know when you you had all the guys on it was a 20 year reunion thing right you just had that march was that easy to get all the guys to say yes to come on the show yeah definitely um you know it was we talk every week all all five

All of you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. So, you know, and this quarantine has kind of brought us even closer because, you know, you spend more time, you know, in your group text and all that. But, yeah, I mean, when I wanted to do something special for the anniversary, I call the guys, I'm like, hey, let me just do one-on-one, hard-any interviews with each one of you individually because I haven't been able to do that. As long as I've been hosting radio and all that, I've never interviewed all. all four guys before. And so it was,

it's very special. It went very long. I think there was, I think Justin's interview went for an hour and a half. That's not long. Have you heard some of these interviews? Some people have three hour at Rogan, three hours. I'm like,

I want this to be an hour. I'm looking at the clock now. I go, I could talk to Lance forever. But like an hour, hour and 15? That's the, I don't want to talk that long. I can't.

Yeah. This day and age, people like, you know, small bikes. I mean, even an hour is too long for people. But yeah,

I like it. I like to keep my show under an hour, but it's so difficult when you have a great guest. Yeah, like Danny Treo was on my show this week, and he's just, he has such incredible stories, and he has such a colorful life. Like, it just went on forever because I couldn't stop. I couldn't not talk about some of the things I wanted to talk about. I have to interview him. You know, I met him a couple of times.

He's like, hey, man, take my number. And then I was like, but I never called him. I think I still have Danny Tree. He won't even remember me. guy but let me and they you know he has tacos and donuts oh yeah i've eaten them you know you go away back you remember i remember hearing you know you were really upset you were crushed you were devastating when justin like left and blah blah blah and all that stuff and then you rekindled and you were fine and everything's great right in a nutshell oh yeah me and the guys were

never on bad terms at all it's just you know life goes on and you you know you have more interest and you have to focus on your careers and it's great uh the thing i was most disappointed in was not just Justin leaving the band. It's that our whole team, our record label, our management, everything like that, they all knew. They all knew it was over for three years before they told me. And so for three years, I'm sitting there getting ready for a new album as everyone else knows we're moving on. And so I didn't get, I turned down, you know, I had a sitcom I was doing, had to turn it down.

I mean, there's all kinds of stuff that I really wanted to do and focus on, but I knew I couldn't because, you know, my first kid is insane. Like, this is my life. You could have been writing. You could have been doing, well, I mean, you were, I'm sure you were writing, but you could have been like doing other, you know, going out. Yeah. It would have been nice to kind of, you know, set up a little better before, you know,

going out solo. Were you guys, I mean, you had to get annoyed. I get annoyed with my brother all the time. When you're on the road together, who is the one guy that you were just like, oh, my God, fuck off. I mean, there had to be those moments. where you're like, you can't love, you dove, everybody. You had to get little things.

Oh, yeah. Well, that's the thing with, you know, with us, and that's why we're so close. We're brothers. I mean, we love each other. We hate each other. Every single emotion comes out when you're in a brother relationship. So, yeah, many times that the good thing about us is if we fight, we make up very quickly. Like, we kind of forget things because I think we're just guys, but like just we, we don't hold on to

things too much. But the one that would always make my eyes roll. would be Chris Kirkpatrick in interviews because Chris, you know, he's very animated and he's funny and he's always cracking a joke. But when someone is always cracking the joke in every single interview, like you do 20 a day and there's five guys,

your days get long and long and long. So there'd be many times I'm like, just shut up, like just answer the question so we can move on because we're so tired right now. So he would always, yeah, make all our interviews at least double the time. What was the biggest blowout you could remember where all five or you were just like, fuck off.

I don't give a shit. Fuck. I'm with him. You're with him. That you're just going. I know. We never had that situation. I don't think we have the time to have that situation.

Not one. No, I mean, we never. I remember this one time, the biggest fight I ever saw, um, you couldn't even call it a real fight. We were in Miami doing challenge for the children, our charity, uh, basketball. And we were getting ready. We were so.

because we had been out the night before, and it's just like a whole three-day event. And we have to do press the next morning. So we're all up in the hotel room, and we're all meeting there, and then we're going to go down and do all the press. And then Joy was late, like he was about 15 minutes late. You know, we're all tired, we're like, all right.

And they had sent food, you know, from room service. And so we had all this room service food, like burgers and all that type of stuff. And we're eating, and Joey had ordered a burger. Well, Justin has a joke took the burger and took a huge bite of it and put it back, right? Holy moly. There was something up Joey's butt that day because when he came in

and he saw someone bit his hamburger, he was like, not doing it. And he, like, protested. I'm not leaving here until I get the new burger. It was like, it was so funny. I've never seen Joey get so upset about something like that. But you can tell he was probably tired or something and he was just over it at that moment.

He's like, nope, it is the, you know, I'm going to stand on this ground and I am not leaving here until a burger gets here. Absolutely. And so we always, we make fun of it. of him all the time for that outburst. All the time. Does anybody, did anybody then go, come on? Do you know, seriously, dude?

It's a fucking burger. Come on. Did it start getting heated? We're like, you're really going to make it here for a house? This is disrespect. Somebody ate my burger. I hope fucked it. That's how it happened. It just blew up. It's so funny.

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We are Wicked and Grim. Follow and listen on your favorite podcast platform. Have you ever dealt with anxiety, depression? You get all that stuff? I mean, he's on the road doing these things. Do you find yourself all of a sudden what's happening in my body? I mean, I think we all get anxieties in certain ways. I wouldn't call myself an anxious person.

My husband is. So I now dating him has really, really educated me on people with anxiety. Because I always thought that I had anxiety. Oh, no, no, no. When someone really has it, it's crippling. And my husband's very, very anxious. And, you know, it took me a while to kind of get used to and realize how to deal with that. But yeah, the only, I mean, I don't know if I get too anxious on anything.

I mean, I do get, like, excited, nervous before I go out on a stage. But I love that anxious feeling. Like, it gives me, I don't know, I think I feel like I do, you know, a better performance if I'm a little nervous. You don't get that tired kind of, oh, my God, I'm so nervous. I'm exhausted now. This adrenaline's making me tired. No, not at all. No, my energy levels are definitely off the charts.

Still, still. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Well, what about, like, depression? Do you ever, like, are you one of those guys? I was like I all of a sudden I if my mind can wander you know it could want it get I could sit there and go you're a fucking disgrace why the fuck did you do that why you're such a loser

do you ever go down that oh yeah I mean I've I've been dealing with depression for the last 15 years um and again I think everyone has a level of depression that they always are having to deal with um but I think my depression was definitely an onset of a couple of things you know having to come out so publicly you know it was very scary um But then also, I, okay, so what was I just saying for that? Well, you're talking about, you know, you have that good, anxious feeling when you go on stage and then you were saying, you know, the depression you've had for 15 years because, you know, having you came out.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. So, I mean, depression for entertainers, I think, is a whole different level. I think if you, if you're in the business and you have a certain level of success, I think anyone's going to get depressed after that kind of goes down. down, right? Because you're, like, in this weird zeitgeist of this, like, in sync world where every hour is booked and everything you do is successful. And like, it's just your life is wonderful, right? And then all that stops. And then you don't know what to do. You're like, wait. And so you go in this depression of, okay, no one likes me. What am I supposed to do? What are I,

like, what do people want me to do? And, and then trying to figure that out, yeah, I mean, you get more and more depressed because you feel like just no one cares about. about you like what's my purpose like what am I supposed to do as part of this and then obviously you've changed that look at you I mean if you think about that and I think that's the one thing where you know you have to look now and say you know that was that was like winning the lottery it's like getting a huge TV show or whatever you win the lottery chances are you're not going to win the lottery again you're not going to win a bago again you know these girls are not going to win a so when you have that kind of success and then I guess you start to grow up and you start to find what really makes me

tick and then that's what you did that was sort of like your journey it's like oh my god what do do i do next and then now you see all these things lined up and these things that you're doing and you know you get married you want to have kids and it's just like i wish that i maybe some of that unnecessary depression or anxiety that i have would just be if i could have a glimpse of the future see see it's okay it worked out why do you but last question before i just do this is a speed around with a uh a patreon pit my patrons have shit talking questions for lance and that will be quick. But this is always something I thought of when, you know, I'm not gay as of right now.

But, you know, if I were, and certainly sexuality is questioned because in high school, people will say, you're a fag or, oh, you're a home, especially in Indiana where I grew up, people say these things. And there's like, oh, yeah, Rosenbaum, Rosie Palm, he jerks off, he's gay. So I didn't know anything. So there wasn't an internet. No one was teaching me. So I go, oh, wow, I do play with myself.

I guess maybe I am gay. Is that what they're saying? So what I'm trying to say to you is, did you ever feel like you had to be part of the ignorance by saying words that you would not, that almost were really directed at you, hurtful things that you'd say, yeah, you'd say the, by the way, sorry for saying the F word,

but I was kind of saying like what people said to me. But do you, do you, did you know, it's true. I mean, especially, you know, when junior high and high school, you know, you go along with those gay jokes because, you didn't want anyone to find out who you are. So I would definitely repeat those gay jokes just to make it seem like, you know, I'm definitely not gay.

So, yeah, you'd have to, I guess, self-preserve as much as you thought you should be doing. Yeah, and I also think, you know, some guys, like, you dated girls. You had sex with women, right? How do you do that? Like, I don't, like, you know what I mean? Like, how can you have sex with something you're not attracted to? I know, well, I mean, the things that you'll make yourself do just to be accepted. I mean, that's what, I mean, so many gay people.

have to do because one you feel like your life would be in danger if you didn't do this like I mean you literally thought that someone's going to murder you if they found out you're a gay so you know the things that you know put yourself through yes I had girlfriends um you know yes I would have sex with girls but I always tell people because I'm like wow could you do that now I don't think I don't think I could ever be with a woman like I just I'm not attracted to women and I don't think I could physically be with a woman but when you're 18 you know you can do anything. So it was a lot easier when you're a teenager to pretend you're straight. But now at 41, I'd be like, she's going to know that I'm not into this. But you think of something else while

you're having sex. You're obviously thinking of a guy, right? Um, no, actually. Wow. Really? It was always the thing that like excited me was seeing her get excited, like being turned on and everything. So like that, that, you know, excited me. It wasn't anything, uh, like I would never think of penis. and all that type of stuff but uh but yeah it was it was just i liked the idea that i was pleasuring someone i still think you're that person you're you're you're not selfish you're you're thinking of their pleasure sure yeah i'll take care of yourself sometimes all right with that this is called shit talking questions then we'll be done this is great shit talking these are my patrons who are just amazing uh folks and they have some questions i'm just going to throw

rapid fire all right jenelle betancourt what's your go-to karaoke song Friends in Low Places, Garth Brooks. Really? Oh, yeah. It is the biggest crowd pleaser at karaoke. One, I hate karaoke. Public karaoke. Like, if you go to Cats Me Now in New Orleans, you'll never see me on that stage.

Like, you doof, new, private karaoke, love it. When you get your own room, it's awesome, love that. But I will never sing in front of strangers at karaoke. Well, you're a bass, right? Yes. So, yeah, that's another thing. It's hard to find bassy songs in karaoke. And that opens with one, right?

So how does that go? Blame it all on your roots. I showed up in boots. See up in your black tie fair. Yeah, and you go, and low places where the whiskey drowns and the beer chases my blues away. I just love country music too. Oh, me too. I do like country.

I do like some old country. Ronnie Millsap, some Eddie Rabbit. Yeah. Lisa Williams, Little Lisa. What was your favorite thing and least favorite thing about touring when you were within sync? My favorite thing was having my favorite thing was having my friend. friends and family out on the road at times and you know have all these really fun road

trip adventures with your high school friends I was I love being able to share my experience with my best friends because they just had you know we were 19 years old so like you know everyone was having so much fun on the road and you could be stupid and you know it was such an innocent time back

then and then the least favorite thing was just being tired all the time I mean you just you were always so tired being on the road Who fucked up the most in terms of the notes? You're like, dude, you didn't hit that note. You were at, fuck, you're out of sync.

Who did that? I mean, we all definitely hold our ground. But, I mean, of course, everyone's going to have those crazy off notes. We've all had them, especially when, you know, you'll be on a TV show and they're like, all the sperm on. They're like, we sing a little Acapella. And you're like, well, crap, because obviously all the mics are going to be different, you know. Right. You know, loudness and stuff.

So it's not going to sound that great. So those were always like, ooh, we hated. we had it being surprised by singing a cappella's because we knew it wasn't going to sound as great if we were all on separate mics. Raj, which member of the band was hooking up the most while you guys were on tour? If you're uncomfortable naming names,

which you won't be. Just describe their hairstyle in 1999. I'll figure it out. Well, it definitely wasn't me. That is for show. I don't know. I mean, during most of the instinct run, the guys were all pretty much in like serious relationships.

So no one really, we weren't that kind of rock star lifestyle where you were, you know, taking a fan home every night. I could just, we never, I never saw drugs on the road. I never, you know, it was just, we were, we were very innocent band, sadly, because I think we would have a lot more fun. But we had a lot of parental types around us from the record label management. You know, they really kept us reigned in a lot. All right. Yeah, there was, and there was just really no time. Like, there was no time to date.

So how are you supposed to just kind of like find a girl? that you saw at a concert and then go home because you're on the road the next like before the music even stops on tour you're on the bus going to the next city like you're not staying there Raj the short answer is J.C. and uh Justin. I wish you was just too much for Prude though. Uh, Misha Love says you've got your own podcast, the deli pot a pop cast with Lance Bassel. You have Mr. Rosenpom as a guest. I had to read it. You better believe it.

Hell yeah. I was on your other your podcast. Oh yeah. Years ago. The Dirty Pop. The Dirty Pop, a long time ago. Oh, yeah. All right, this one is the last question. And this, I'm glad it's the last question because this is why I sort of text you about this.

Todd, the 206 Geek, is it true you tried to purchase the Brady Bunch House, but HD TV sniped it out from under you? That is true. Yes. I had this, you know, one of my TV shows I wanted to do was this show where you take iconic homes from film and television and you redo them, you know, and like put them back. in the market, whatever. So I always knew if the Brady Bunch ever came for sale, I was going to do this show. So, you know, it, you know, went up for sale. I'm like, I got this.

I'm doing it. So, you know, we started this amazing bidding war with Miley Cyrus and all these other people. Like, it was kind of a fun event, right? And I called HGTV and I was like, hey, you know, if I get this house, I want to do a show on HGTV where we, you know, redo these house, all the type of stuff. well that was a mistake because guess what after two weeks of bidding and the real estate agent calls he's like congratulations you got the house like you have the winning bid and we're like woohoo this is amazing we celebrate i tweeted up like i'm going to do the brady house blah blah blah blah um the next day they call and they're like oh sorry HTTP is called and said that they're just going to give us whatever money we want like they'll out bid anyone so it's like well why did we have a bidding war for you two weeks and spending a lot of money on lawyers doing bidding for two weeks when you're just going to give it to a network at the end they were using us to put up the price because they knew

you should have helped you sued those bastards that's terrible what can you do i mean it's not technically illegal so so you didn't watch when they redid the house did you even watch that or you're like fuck them i did actually um because hc tv wanted me to play nice because when the fans found out that they stole it they got a lot of heat and people were like boycott the show Ray. They're like, we'll never watch the show. So they called me. They're like, we loved you to be involved. You know, like, because you're like, you can at least produce the show with this. I was like, fine,

I'll help produce it. That never happened. They were just basically lying to me to get me out of the way and not talk shit about them. And then they did let me do I got to tour the house with Michael. And it was incredible. Oh, my gosh.

Dream. It was incredible. So we got to tour the home house and we did the behind the scenes type of stuff for their their website and all that. But it was, they did a really spectacular job. Can you still, can you actually, I would die. I honestly I would do anything. I would donate whatever

to charity. If you could somehow get me a private tour of that house. Oh, that can happen. Yeah, I'm, look, I'm still trying to buy the house because HCTV still doesn't know what they want to do with the house. And I'm like, why would a network on a house? Like, sell it to me. Like, let's, like, why, why would you want to hold on to this house? Like, give it to someone

that really wants this house. Well, you know what? Why don't we come up with a sitcom and it could just have all the Brady Bunched furniture and the house and the inside and we just do our own show. I'm like, why all this furniture is 60 years old? I don't know. We never, we never talk about it. I love it. Oh, my God. Well, hey, man, this is, honestly, this is the easiest, quickest back and forth. I mean, I'll ask my listeners, but this has been great. I mean, we got so much, we talked about so much, and it was in an hour. Look at there. We made the hour. I love, I love seeing you. I think you look fantastic.

I'm so excited for you and Michael. I think it's beautiful. beautiful. I feel it's the end of the year. It's going to be a little Christmas present for you. It's going to happen. I hope so. Yeah. I hope so. No, I love seeing you. I can't wait to be able to see you in person. I know. Give you a big hug. All right. Thanks for allowing him to be inside of you again. Of course. Wait, this is the first time. This is the first time I was inside of you. Yeah, yeah, first time, but not the last. Not the last. All right. I like Lance. Don't you? It's a good guy. Yeah. He is. He's just, you know, I think it's funny when you look back and you see pictures of him and he's he's a kid he's a young kid he gets a superstar i don't know

i would have jumped off a roof i couldn't i can barely handle no success or he's a teenager medium success man i couldn't imagine being so young and just like people just launching themselves at you that kind of success i i don't think it's a rarity and i don't know you'd be careful what you wish for yeah but uh he seems to have a good head on the shoulder he found out who he is you know I mean, I think he always knew, it's like, you know, he talks about it. Yeah. But when you could find your soulmate and you can go, hey, you know, when he talks about dating, like, I'm dating the wrong guys.

And I'm like, well, you know, you date the wrong girls. And you're like, but this is my type. This is my type. And then one day you go, let's go against the type. And then you find it. Yeah. You find the one. I think that's a beautiful story.

And I always wish him the best. And I'm bummed that he can't get me. He texts me back. I'm sorry. They're not doing any tours for the Brady Bunch House. I tried for you. So, fuck you, Lance, you're a liar. No, man, I'm so bummed.

I actually might call HGTV and just say, dude, I'll give a thousand bucks to charity. Maybe I could bring a patron or a listener or whatever. Maybe, like, you know, if I can get a hold of somebody and, you know, have a little thing on my podcast, like, hey, the winner, you know, if you're, you know, you'll come with me to the Brady Bunch house and people are like, big deal. Is Preston too young to us? I don't think he'd know the Brady Bond. She'd be bored by good buddy Preston.

Shout out to Preston Christensen, cheerleader, music extraordinaire, cancer survivor. He is still working at it and it's in remission and I love him. I love you. You know, Preston and I love the family and I can't wait to see you. This whole pandemic has screwed things over. And shout out to food on foot and helping the homeless. They need your help more than ever. Ronald McDonald House and the animal rescue mission, of course.

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