Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - LARSEN THOMPSON: Props from Beyoncé , Not Taking Things Fricken Serious, Ditching Perfectionism & Working with P!nk

Episode Date: March 21, 2023

Larsen Thompson (The Midnight Club, Horrorscope) was an amazing fricken guest this week. She shared her early entry into acting after having to walk away from her passion of dancing for health concerns. Larsen opens up on the idea of her perfectionism and how she’s learned to turn that off while acting, prioritizing performance over her own appearance and ego. We also talk about working with Mike Flanagan on The Midnight Club, her first role under Anthony LaPaglia, and how a retweet from Beyoncé helped catapult her career. Thank you to our sponsors: ❤️ Betterhelp: https://betterhelp.com/inside 👨‍🍳 Home Chef: https://homechef.com/inside 🟠 Discover: https://discvr.co/3Cnb1V8 🧼 Dove Men Plus Ca __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou 👕 Inside Of You Merch: https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🤣 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod 🌐 Website: https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Thanks for listening. If you're here for Larson Thompson and you never listened to the podcast before, I hope you'll like it enough to say, hey, you know, this guy doesn't suck and I'll listen to the, uh, to more episodes. I think you'll really enjoy it and, uh, Larson's fantastic and, um, you know, we talk about mental health and a lot of fun stuff. Well, speaking of health, um, so I did this thing per newvo, uh, it's a, uh, they do a scan on

your body. I've talked about it before. In fact, I posted about it. And they don't pay me. It's not a paid advertisement or anything like that. But they detect early stages of cancer and everything except for like leukemia. So I did the test and I got the test results back. And there was one thing that was moderate risk that was in the yellow that they said you should get more imaging on this. And it was in my pharynx, which is behind your larynx and is what makes swallowing, I think, and like all these things work with your throat.

They found a cyst. And so I went to my E&T, and the E&T did a scope and saw the cyst and said, I think we should get more imaging. I want to make sure there's nothing under the cyst. And I was just like, I didn't, I was like, okay, all right. And then I went to Indiana. And in the back of my mind, I was always thinking of that cyst and like, wow, tomorrow I could get bad information. That could be really scary. And, you know, of course, like an idiot, I read about all these things.

if you have cancer in that area, it's like you have a 5% chance of living. It's like just, you're done. And so as the days I started thinking about my mortality, and I started thinking, well, all right, well, what would you do? And I kind of came to terms with like, all right, here's what you would do. And I sort of like, you're going to go visit so-and-so. You're going to go here. You're going to throw a party for your friends.

it's like that song by uh tim mcgraw live like you were dying live like you were dying uh but it's a great song people always think about that stuff and if you just like if you knew that you weren't going to have long or the person other person was going to have what was you doing you always sings and then you think about well why don't you just do them now and it's so true how it's like we have the ability if you know most of us do or some of us do if you have the ability you know to do the things you want to do because you just you just don't know i could have got a conversation i could have got a call and i just got this call is why we are re-recording the intro but um you know if i got a call and it was the doctor and i was thinking you know and if he said

hey uh are you sitting down i mean i you know all these thoughts coming here but anyway knock on wood thank god um god bless um I'm okay. Very glad you're okay. Yeah, me too. Me too, man. Me too. I was too short and it could have been shorter.

You didn't have to go skydiving, Rocky Mountain climbing. On a 2.7 seconds on a bull named foo man chew. I love that song. I went sky diving. All right. Anyway, hey, our socials are, Ryan. At Inside of you pod on Twitter. At Inside of you podcast on Instagram and Facebook.

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Join patreon.com slash inside of you. I'll give a shout out on the podcast with your name. You support the podcast and you're the reason why I still do this. You keep the show going. and so thank you for that and that's about it. Ryan, you're doing all right? I'm doing good. I'm getting away too.

I'm going, uh, or a bachelor party weekend in Scottsdale, Arizona. Did you just go to a bachelor party? Yeah, someone just said that to me and I can't think of what it was. Yeah,

it was like, it was something like the last time you were with those guys, you like got too drunk or something. No, that would, that's my seizure story from, uh, that I,

but that was like five years ago. That was like five years ago. Yeah. But then weren't you meeting with those people again? Uh, I don't know. I can't remember anything. But anyway, you're traveling. I'm traveling. So I'm getting out of town. You need it. You like it. You love it. You live it. That's good. So this guy, the guy who's marrying my sister, we're going to hang. I'm going to hang out with him and all of his friends. Oh, boy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. All right. Let's just do it. Let's get into this. She's amazing. She was so wonderful. She brought her mom on the podcast, not on the podcast, but she was in the other room laughing. I could hear her. And she was awesome. She was awesome. She was awesome. Awesome. Her mom was awesome. What a great family. She's in Midnight Club. She models. She's on

Instagram. Follow her. She's fun. She's beautiful. She's cool. That's the most important thing. Her name is Larson Thompson. So let's get inside of Larson Thompson. It's my point of you. You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. of you with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. Larson. Larson Thompson. Is that your real name? Yeah. I've never met a Larson. Well, it's actually usually a last name, but it was my grandma's, it was my great grandma's last name with an O. My parents are like, we really like that name. Let's make it her first name and end it with an E, L-R-S-E. That's a cool name. You know what

It sounds like, Ryan? Tell us. Put the mic to your mouth, God's sakes. What? Larson sounds like a popular girl's name, like a popular in high school. Are you going to Larson's party? Yeah. I wasn't invited.

Were you popular? Just admit it. Go with it. Roll with whatever you were. I wasn't. You were. No. Let's just go with that.

Well, you, well, I didn't really get to have the normal high school experience. I like went through all of middle school. But I was like every day after school gone at the dance studio. Didn't really get time to like hang out with friends or ever go to parties. Really? High school. I went out my sophomore year. So didn't really have the high school experience.

Was able to go to prom, which was. I didn't. I never went to high school dance. Hold on a second. Hey, is this, is she a little too like the spacing on here is a little too. She has too much space. Space. Name this TV show.

So, space, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the Star Wars track. It's okay. You're off for one. There'll be more. No, don't give me these. I'm like, I watch so many movies, but when it comes to, like, any type of references or anything like that, I just, like, go. You go blank.

Yeah, go blank. But you're probably a reader, so you remember. Yeah, I do read. You do. I like to read. What do you read? Um, you know, I read a lot of, like, self, growth. books, a lot of faith books.

I like it. Just in ways to grow as a person as an individual and in my crafts. Are you more spiritual, you think? Yeah, I'm pretty spiritual. I grew up Christian and, you know, now I have my own personal relationship with God and walk with him and, you know, it's really a part of who I am. It's what keeps me grounded and I'm really just thankful for it. Wow.

Yeah. See, you're 22. 22 you know again i what i like about this is because i usually interview people mid 30s 40s 50s older yeah and so you have people that have really lived a little they've had a lot of experiences they've had a lot of issues and facing adversity and depression so i wanted to talk to someone that's obviously bright and cheerful and awesome and talented but someone that was younger to get a perspective from that and what you're starting to go through what you're starting to go through what you're starting to learn about yourself, what you're starting to learn about others,

the industry. So I wanted to get into all that because I think that's really cool and it's a perspective. I remember, but it was different time. It was a different time. It was, uh, you know, it just was. It was different. Yeah. It's not like I'm 80, but it was different. Um, but childhood was good for you. Yeah, childhood was really good for me. I'm really thankful. Because your mom's in the other room. Yeah, my mom's in the other room. My parents, oh, she is a joy. She is really a joy. They are my best friends. Like, I'm so close with my parents. I'm very thankful and fortunate for that. Um, just their support system, the way that they've, you know, through their wisdom and the way that they've, you know, gone through struggles and battles and the way

they've raised me, um, as a teenager, starting in the industry so young. I mean, I started at four. I started dancing at four and then began working in the industry around 12. That's crazy. Now, is it something that Elizabeth, your mom pushed you into? Was she like a mommy dearest chick? We were talking about that back there and she made a joke kidding. But I'm wondering was she kind of like, I want you to do this. I want you. You're so beautiful, Thompson. You need to do this. No. So actually, I guess like I, my, my aunt was in the Olympics as a gymnast. And my mom was like, I always had this desire to like, Julianne McNamara, 1984. Gold medalist? Gold medalist. For what? Um, bars. She's like the, what? Yeah. She's incredible.

How old is she now? She's 50, 58? Oh, she's still young. She's young. She's young. That's young. Yeah. It's funny because my aunt and I look like twins and my cousin, my aunt's daughter, my mom looked like twins. It's very weird. But everyone's like you look just like your aunt. But I think my mom grew up in that kind of environment with my aunt leaving when my mom was like 12 years old. And so my mom and I grew up very, very close because of that. And I had this desire for dance. I never really took it seriously about the age of 10. And the studio owners were coming. Who would take it seriously? Who would take it seriously 10? I don't take it seriously. seriously at my age. Yes. I know. I mean, you can. I think that's how you get through things.

Yeah. No, no, no, exactly. And I think the studio owners were coming up to my mom being like, we don't think Larson dances for Larson. She's, you know, all over the place. She has too much energy. Definitely like ADHD. There's something going on here. Yeah. And so my mom is like, well, you know, if you're not, you know, she'll prove you wrong. And my mom was just like, Larson, like, where do you want to take this? Like, do you want to take this seriously? Like, is dance, you know, a profession that you want to go into? because you can start very, very young in dance. And I was like, I mean, yeah. So they started driving me to L.A.

I started meeting all the choreographers at Millennium Dance Complex. Because you grew up in Thousand Oaks. Yeah, in Thousand Oaks. Were you still live there, same house? Yeah, same house. Holy shit. Are your parents still married? Yes.

They are. How many years? 26 years. It's funny because my parents divorced after 27. But, you know, that was, you know, it happened when I was a little bit older. So it was still very difficult, not because I really cared, but because I had to. I didn't realize, I knew they shouldn't be together. Okay, I knew that it was just like oil and vinegar.

Yeah. You know, this wasn't right. You know, they fought this passive aggression. There was a mutual respect after a while. I think they really loved each other when they were younger. Yeah. But my mom's more to more of a, not ostentatious. Oh, she could be that if she had money.

But more of, what's the word when you're just like all over the place, flamboyant and, uh, attention horror? Oh. Well, no. Well, I could be an attention horror. I'm like, you know, I want to be the center of attention. It wasn't, I didn't mean a whore. Yeah, no, I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah, an attention.

Yeah. Love's attention. Loves attention. Love it. Jason, don't edit that out. I like it. Okay, this is good. But my parents, when they divorced, I was like, oh, of course. It wasn't a shock to me.

My mother, she'd call me at 3 in the morning while I was just starting my career. Yeah. I mean, not starting my career, but like got one of the biggest opportunities in my life. If I recall, it's. when they divorced right when Smallville started. And so I'm trying to, you know, it's a big thing to handle and, like, try to be good and stress and all that stuff. And they got divorced, but she would call me a three in the morning.

I can't do it. I can't. I can't live my life. And really tough. Yeah. So divorce can be incredibly tough. 100%. And I don't, yeah.

And especially if you're a young kid, whether you like it or not, you're going to have issues later. Yeah. That you have to work on. Yeah. But you, thank God, luckily, came from an, an. broken family. You know, so what's that like? You know, I think it's, you know, I don't think, you know, behind closed doors, no family's perfect. None of us are perfect individuals.

And so it's like I, one thing of the lesson I've learned from my parents is like marriage is not, not easy. You know, it's very hard. I see my parents struggle in the challenges they have, but, you know, they fight for their marriage. You know, my dad and my mom, they fight for it. And I think that's what I admire most about them is, you know, the way that they still spend time together and they go and take trips to, you know, reestablish their love and to connect again. And they talk. Yeah, they talk a lot. I come from a very, um, vulnerable emotional family.

We don't hide. Yeah. Does Elizabeth cry a lot? Elizabeth does cry a lot. What does she cry at? She cries when her kids are in pain. She cries, um, when life is just hard. What pain have you been in that she's cried about?

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Like, my mom is like the mama bear where like when people online come at me and they don't know who I am, that really affects her. And they are. Where I'm very much like, I brush it off and I'm like, hey, you know what? Like, I'm not going to let this affect me. I am who I am. I know who I am. These people don't know me.

But my mom is the mama bear where she's like, I can't believe they would say that about you and it gets her really frustrated. I'm like, mom, it's okay. We don't know them. They're probably behind a computer screen just like. Trolls. Yes, just like taking out their own insecurities or things that they're facing and putting it on to somebody else. Yeah, every once in while, I'll read a comment like, you know, very few, but like, he wasn't the best Lex. I'm just kidding. You are the best. It's a joke. I mean, it's a joke. But Ryan, um, how many guests have come in here over the years and said, I don't read reviews. I don't look at critics. A lot of them have said that, right? Yeah. Yeah. Because I think it's a healthy thing, right? I know, but it's something

also that feeds your ego and makes you feel like you're worthy. And then it sometimes crushes your ego and makes you feel like shit. So it's better to not and just kind of stay balanced, I guess. but I'm one that sometimes likes I make the mistake of thinking something that I did was really good or I was really good and they're going to notice me and that's a mistake because then you're like what how could you think this way and then that it's not a good feeling yeah so all I would suggest to you is definitely don't believe what you're reading especially people that don't know you and try to take things with a grain of salt or try to stay away from that stuff and just do the best because it will be it will interfere in your life yeah no I find it too like Like, you know, I started acting three years ago. I had been doing it since I was kid, kind of took a break and then was like, I want to do this for real now. And I still am like, I can't stand watching myself. I have a weird thing. You hear that a lot with actors.

Like, it's very hard for me because I am myself, I'm my biggest critic. What are you looking at? Are you looking at your face? No, never mind. I'm just looking at like. Acting. My acting. All right.

So you're okay looking at yourself. Yeah. Like you're like, I'm pretty. I'm not worried about that. Is that what you're saying? I mean, I don't. No, but it's a good thing. That's a, I'm telling you, 90% of actors don't like watching themselves because they're like,

oh, God, my nose. Oh, look at the bags in my eyes. No, see, I don't do. What's very interesting is in acting, even if I, like, I feel like I've talked to a lot of people that are very aware of how they look when they're like crying or if they're screaming when I'm acting, I could care. If I look ugly, I'm like, great. Good.

I was in it. That was it. I could care less if there's like tears and I'm like, no snot coming down. Trust the director. Yes. I'm like, this is acting. This is what it is. Like, you're not in real life, like, worried about, like, snot coming down your nose and being like.

Have you had those moments where you're crying like that? Yeah. Most recently, I was working on a film called Horoscope with so many pictures. I just got back from it. So I was there for three months in Belgrade, Serbia. Who's in that? Jacob Battalon from Spider-Man. Harriet Slater.

Who else? Humberley Gonzalez. And a big role. Yeah, there's seven. It's an ensemble cast. There's seven of us, all leads. Scary? Scary movie.

Yes, deals with horoscopes and a lot of what, you know, this generation is very into horoscopes these days. And I think it will do, there's also like a sense of entertainment to it. I think it will do really well. And I'm very excited about it. It comes out in 2023 in theaters. Great. You'll have to email me and let me know so Ryan and I can go see it.

Yeah, let's go. Right. We'll go. But wait. a minute. You were about to tell me something that happened on that set. Oh, yeah. So it's, I think this is why I love horror the most. Wait a minute. You like horror the most? I think. We'll look around you. Well, look at us. Look around you. Look up here. Take time, make time. Make time. That's a little river band. Yeah. Elizabeth probably knows it. I never know. Yeah. We didn't catch on.

So later. All right. Go ahead. Go ahead. Sorry. No, I think I love it. because it's the most, I think the most challenging genre. Yeah. Especially for me, that's just how I feel. But putting yourself in these, like, most, the most unrealistic, like, circumstances and truly believing it. And, like, I had a scene I had to do. I can't, like, share the scene.

But, like, something that was so just, like. Horrible. Yeah, something that's just so, it's not going to happen, so unrealistic, but, like, truly believing it. And that was where it's like, you have, like, five cameramen that are just, like, there and sound. screen too or whatever no we weren't on a green screen okay so it's a real creature or whatever don't say anything yeah um but like be looking at people like you know cough like doing a a little thing like

like that or just adjusting and moving and that's you're looking and trying to believe what you're seeing it's well not only that but you're at the beginning of your career so everything's new so yeah you being on set with all the crew and all the cast and the producers and the director and and all watching you. And they're like, Larson, are you, I forgot your name for a second. Oh, no.

No, I'm kidding. Because I was going to say Lors, Lars, because I was singing S-O-N, because that was your grandma's spelling of her. No, and they're like, okay, Larson, action. And you got to start crying and be emotional.

Totally. And the most important thing you have to do, which you probably don't have a lot of experience doing, is really trusting yourself. Yeah. Which that never, I've done stuff where I just, I'm like, I don't, I don't know.

And some, the first take, they're like, okay, then it needs to be a little big, you need to see more emotion, second take, okay, and by the fifth take, I get there. Yeah. Because there's no way you're going to get there in the first take, with those emotions. Totally. Totally. I mean, I take a- She's crying. She's crying. Keep rolling, guys. Keep rolling. Fix the snot on her nose. And then I don't want to get that because that's ridiculous. Okay, good. It's distracted. Well, I take a second, too, where I'll just be like, hey, I'm going to need, like,

you call action, give me a few seconds. I'm going to, like, scream and get there, like, emotionally. You have your things to do it. Yeah, I do my things. Oh, I do. I will, I'll sit there, and I'll go, come on. God. Blood of Jesus. And I'll yell at myself.

And I go, come on, dude. Let's go. You know, just something I've seen like I worked with Jesse Eisenberg and the other Lex Luthorpe. I love him. He was great to work with. Wow. And what he does before every take, he just jumps up and down. And turns in circles, turns in circles, turns in circles.

Wow. Yeah. And I, you know, if you have to be kind of, like, if I'm playing a drugged up or emotional, Sometimes I'll spin around, I'll do something, whatever it takes to get me going. Exactly. And it's like getting out of your head. That's where it's like, I'll be just like doing jumping jacks or I'll go like, I'm so weird.

I'll be like running down the hall. And then they're like, we need you. I'm like, all right, I'm up. I'm here. I'm ready. Just to like get me out of my head and stop thinking, get my heart going or something. That's good. Yeah.

You're learning the tricks of the trade. I guess. I mean, have you ever just felt like you haven't, you didn't get it? You just couldn't pull it out. Like it's okay. it's fine but you're like it's not great yeah and i being so hard on myself and being a perfectionist i struggle with that a lot where i like come out of it and be like gosh i could have done better and i'm like so grateful this the film that i just did i there was this one scene that i i had so much going

on that day and there was this it was a pretty emotional scene and i was like gosh i just i walked out of there and was like i could have done better and that's like the worst feeling i feel like i've done that very many times and then next thing you know they're like we need to catch some more we didn't get to catch for that scene, um, everything we wanted to get. So we're going to, we're going to cover it again. And I was like, yes. Like it was the best feeling because I was like, yes, I get another go at it. And I just felt so much better about it. You know, I'll tell you a story. Even the best, the biggest stars in the world go through this. Um, Slice Stallone. Icon. Worked with him in Guardians three that's coming out in Guardians two. And he's a huge,

that when you meet him, you're like, funny as hell, sign my Rambo lunchbox. Just epic. And you know what he says to me? He says, he's signing my lunchbox. He goes, you got a lunchbox? I go, yeah, I goes, how old are you? He's a little old for a lunchbox. Got you got a freaking thermos in here.

What are you doing? You know, and I was like, yeah, yeah. And he laughed. He was joking around, but a joy to work with. I mean, he would crack jokes, but there was one scene we did, and he has this line. He just, it was fine. I watched it go, they got it. They got it.

But he later called the director and so, you know, look, I'd love to do it again. I'd love to just shoot my close-up again. I think I could do a better job. I think I could do it better. And the first thing we woke up the next morning, we went to set for his close-up just to get that and did it again for Sly. And he was better. Wow. So it doesn't just happen.

Now, if I called and said, hey, I think I could do it. I was like, no. We're not losing money. We're not losing money on you, Rosenbaum. We've already lost money on your performance last day. But that should make everybody feel good knowing that. It's it's not an easy job to make things seem real, believable. Yeah. You know how many times you watch a movie and go, that was her reaction? Like we laugh about it. But the guy in Smallville, who's a really good actor, there's a really good actor. There's a. scene where a body drops out of a closet and his response is damn who's that we laugh about all the time but he's like damn who's that what's very weird that's like what he's a dead body like inside you is brought to you by rocket money if you want to save money then listen to me because i use this ryan uses so many people use rocket money it's a personal finance app that helps find and cancel your unwanted subscriptions crazy right how cool is that monitors your spending and helps lower your bills so you can grow your savings and you know what's great it works it really works ryan

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dark storytelling, and the occasional drink to take the edge off, We're here to explore the wicked and reveal the grim. We are wicked and grim. Follow and listen on your favorite podcast platform. No, but what's very interesting is like I watch movies with my brother who is just doesn't understand acting, you know, could look at anything and be like, that was a me. No.

And it's like as an actor, when I like watch movies now, I can point out like continuity things. And I'm like, I hate that I'm like that now because I'll be like, I was not. No. And now with him, I watch with him, I'm like, did you? notice that he's like no I'm like okay it's just an actor thing I guess you know that's some perspective right there what you just said no one really we haven't talked about it's such a different world when you you as someone who's in the profession it's what you do for a living and you're watching something you're critical of it I saw a camera shadow I think I saw the

was that the mic yeah exactly oh wait a minute her hair wasn't like that a certain one and you go to the midwest and you're like man that movie was awesome yes man I go you didn't this or this. No, I thought she was awesome. So we're so hard on ourselves that I'm coming to believe, I'm realizing that even if I'm not what I think I should be, it's probably going to be fine. Yes. They're probably going to go, yeah, it's fine. It's good. Yeah. I'm always trying to be great, great. How do I be the greatest in every line? But in reality, 90% of the world, 98% of the world that's not in Hollywood, 100%. They're like, they're okay. They're okay with a lot the stuff that we noticed that we don't like.

Exactly. Like we watched a movie last night, a horror movie, the prodigy. This kid, he played Georgie and It. Yeah. Great little actor. Yeah. He was fantastic.

And I thought the movie was okay. It wasn't bad. Yeah. You know, I recommended it. It's not great. Yeah. But there was a scene where they go to this doctor and they play a tape because she recorded her son speaking in a different language.

And she goes, oh, can I, can I keep this? And the mother's like, yeah. And the next scene, she takes it to this guy. The next scene is the guy talking about, oh, that was a Hungarian language, which is fine. Okay, you speak Hungarian. Great. I believe that. And then he gets this whole thing, like, I think what he's suffering from is perhaps

this and tells the whole story in one monologue, like what we need to know as an audience instead of letting us learn things, like thinking, we need to tell the audience. And it pissed me off so much. And my friend Rob, who is the lead guitarist, to my band, Sunspin, throw it out there. I know. Shameful. Lest, shameless. He helps me on vocabulary.

I looked at Rob after he was just, I really like that movie. I go, what about the? Yeah, I didn't, I don't know. I didn't care about that. Kind of helped me kind of figure it out. I'm like, fuck. Yeah. Do you say the F word?

I don't, but. Michael, what? But my mom. My mom cursed like a sailor. Do you say F? No, I say like. Go ahead, fudge. I say like frick and crap.

You know, I try not to swear. I really do. I have a friend, his name is John Heeter, and I laugh at him, not because he's Mormon. I love Mormons. They're fine people, great people, in fact, monogamists, a lot of great stuff. But John, he doesn't swear. And someone goes, oh. Oh, gosh, that was effed.

It's like, dude, was that his D? Did they just show his D? Gosh. And at first, I laughed, but then I started doing it. So now I do that because I think it's funnier. Yeah. And it's like, instead of saying F, I just get, yeah, the F where I just say, F freaking F. I like saying Frick.

Frick! Frick! Like, it feels good. But it's funny because the first time I ever said the F word was in a self-tape like four years ago. Were you embarrassed to say it? No, it felt good. I thought you're going to say it F and felt good. That would have been genius.

It felt good. No, it was like, it had never come out of my mouth. And it was just like, dang, all right. Did you, when you were younger, was there any, was there any moments in your life so far? Because I know you're young. I know you haven't lived. I mean, you've lived, but you have, you know, lived. Lived.

You haven't lived. You need to live, girl. There's so much life ahead of you. But was there a moment, like, growing up where you were sort of not a good person or not a good girl or maybe going through a tough time or maybe kind of mean at times and then feel bad about it later and maybe effed. I mean, not F, but you said the F word. Yeah. Let's see. Was there a time where your mom was like, hey, Thompson or Larson, I want to say, Tomp.

I want to say Thompson, Larson. Larson. Yeah. You know, what's going on? Probably around the age of 14. I was going through a little bit of a... Rebellious? I remember the rebellious.

I was just very on edge, very hard to deal with. Hormonal? Yes, very hormonal. And it was also right at the time that I kind of made the transition from dance into modeling. And I was like kind of heartbroken to kind of be leaving dance in that industry. And that was always like an outlet for me when I was depressed, when I was sad or felt anxiety, I would literally go to the studio and just like dance for like eight hours. Forget about everything for hours.

Yeah. That's what that is. Yeah. Exercise. 100%. Yeah. You're passionate about. You escape.

Yeah. Yeah. And it was my escape. And so I feel like I had an injury. And so that's most of the reason why I kind of had to pause on. dance for a while with my neck and it was actually no I didn't but it was actually I had two neck surgeries really yeah please sports my whole life I'm always in pain it's it's life it's just how no yeah it's okay people have pain yeah not like me but go on yeah and I and I still like struggle

with it I did my own stunts this was kind of I learned my lesson yeah I did too yeah and I just basically messed up my ligaments a disc one of my discs got an epidural did you yeah yeah I know does they put you to sleep for the injection uh-huh i liked it it was it was really cool actually he's like count to four one two out you know yeah you know what's funny is people always say when they put you to sleep on you afraid you're not you're gonna die i'm like i won't know be dead i'll be dead it's true i'll fall asleep and i'll die that's the best way to go if that happens god forbid that's all right it's better get hit by a car and living through it yeah maybe you know it's very interesting.

Yeah, what? Redheads, we take double the anesthesia. What? Yes. Are you aliens? I guess so. Double the anesthesia. No, no kidding.

And this woman I was talking to the other day, she's a natural redhead. Her hair is black now. She has to tell him before or hear her, whoever is doing her anesthesia, like, I'm a natural redhead. And then they know I got to up the dosage. Really? Isn't that wild? Yeah, it is wild.

I've never heard that. Have you heard that? Yeah. but let me tell you something i don't do drugs um i barely drink uh but whenever i have to have an epidural and they put me to sleep i can't wait it's it's like weird addiction it's like i don't go go get them every day but like you know once every eight months sometimes you know whatever sometimes a couple in a year yeah but when i go that morning i'm like the anesthesiologist comes over doctor shit you not crocorkian croccian where's a bandana kind of hippie dude i'm like listen

dr corkorgian i um i and i do this every time i go you know i don't do any drugs you know i i i barely drink this is like my only time to really feel good if not for you know for and what i'm saying to you is i don't want to be injected with this stuff and then fall immediately to sleep let me enjoy it for a few minutes. Let me just enjoy it and lie here and feel good for a few minutes. And he goes, absolutely. So he does it little by little so I can kind of enjoy it. Wow.

I mean, it's not, here's the funny thing. I wake up and I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm just going to huggy. And he comes over and I go, gee, he says you're going to let me feel it for a few minutes. And he goes, I did. You don't remember filming yourself on your phone. I go, I look at him. My phone, there was like three minutes. Are you serious?

Hey, what's going on? Hey, listen to this joke and talking to all the nurses and laughing. And I'm like, oh, my Lord. Oh, my God. It was hysterical. And I was like, wow. Isn't it the weirdest feeling that when you wake up and you're just, I don't remember. No recollection of anything.

That is the craziest part for me is when I wake up. And I'm like, we're done. Like, how long was I? Do you still get them? Yeah, I still get epidurals from my neck. I'm like about to go in in January. Is your dog? Dr. Port?

No, Dr. Pajage. Plajajon's fancy. Plajonage. You're not going to Dr. Pazzoon. Where is he at, in Beverly Hills? No, in Marina Del Rey. You said that. Did I?

I think she did, didn't she? I can't run it back. I can. Let's rewind this tape. Can we rewind live? We're not live. You've done some cool stuff. Like, I read about this.

I was like, you, you choreographed a YouTube video. that went viral, viral receiving four million views in 2016. You were 15. And then later that year, you choreographed another YouTube video for Run the World, which I think is Beyonce.

Yeah. Doesn't say here. Received 8 million views. How the hell? What? There's a lot of buildup. There's a lot of dramatic causes. Well, I don't know.

I'm just like I look because I think I look at 15 and I'm like you know I'm like oh my God what happened in my pants you know oh my God what am I doing uh I don't know what I was 15 I had no maturity I didn't I was just like no brain your frontal cortex or so it's not formed you don't think of as the things you think of later and but you're moving at 15 and you're did what how did that happen I mean how did you say this is what I'm going to do is it was your idea? This is, what happened? So my friend Taylor and I, um, Swift? No, I wish. Love her. My friend Taylor and I, we had been working with a choreographer named Janelle Janestra and we started, we had this idea where like, there's so many dance videos out there where people are,

you know, we're in class. It started, that's when all the social media stuff kind of started pumping around like when I was like 13, everyone was filming their classes now, putting them up on YouTube. and it was just like gaining a lot of traction. And our choreographer, Janelle and Taylor and I were like, okay, how can we make this different? And she was like, why don't we start doing dance concept videos? Let's tell a story through dance. And I'm like, that's a great idea.

Let's do it. Let's have a message behind each one and let's go for it. And so the first one we did, it was really just for fun. The two of us, we called ourselves the fraternal twins. We kind of looked a little bit similar. She needed less anesthesia. Yes. all right go ahead go on and we filmed the first one and we it was to IDF with you and what's that

mean um I don't frick with you oh so you could acronym that shit but you can't say it huh no the thing is I grew up dancing to I look back at like videos on YouTube when I was like 12 dancing to the most like crazy music but at that time in dance like I never listened to the lyrics because every move for us is on the beats. So I look back at like videos and went 12 dancing to the most like insane songs. And I'm like, no wonder in the comments, people are like, why do you have a 12 year old dancing to this? Makes sense.

Sometimes I've seen stuff like that. I'm like going, they're letting their kids listen to this music. Yes. Well, guess what? It was the same thing when I was younger. I was listening to two live crew. Everybody say, hey. I won't say it.

But they said some gnarly shit. And listening to NWA, Frick the police coming down with authority. It's totally it. And I would beatbox. A. Loss of Thompson. Okay. Oh, all right.

So then we did this, the one for Beyonce, run the world. And that one was just about women empowerment. And that was one of my favorite one, just the message behind. it and it just we went to sleep and I swear it was like we woke up and there was like three million views and we were like wait what like what but how do people even like I put some funny ass stuff up yeah you're funny but I'm like thank you yeah but I'm like this is funny and for some reason I just I guess I don't have that did you already have a lot of followers from the first video we kind of already had like a fan base that one kind of grew over time like

within a week. It was just like, whoa, this is crazy. And like, good morning America. And we have these people reaching out to us to like come on the show. And we're like, wait, what? This is just nuts. Did you get any money for all the views? So it wasn't on my channel. Did they split it with you? Well, I actually don't know if those videos were monetized because four million gets you some money these days. Yeah. Four million. You probably would have gotten $15,000. $20,000 for that video. Yeah. Crazy, right? Did Beyonce? call you or message you? She posted us on Twitter and like put up our video.

And I think that's how that one kind of spark. She loved it. She sent it out and boom. Yeah. And that started getting you some attention. Yeah. And that's kind of how I'm dancing. I need to watch this.

We need to go watch this. Yeah. Are you great in this? Is it pretty cool? Yeah. You should watch it. It's very, it's very funny because people are always like, Larsen, you're this very like, you know, soft spoken individual.

shy kind of just like you know and then you do you dance and it's like this beast comes out it's like we don't even recognize you I'm like yeah you know that's where that passion comes out yeah 100% do you still dance yeah I still dance now and it's for fun for fun and it's also with you know modeling I'm able to incorporate my dance into a lot of the projects I work on they find out I'm a dancer and then they're like oh can you hit some moves for us and I'm like sure let me just could you do a black swan kind of movie I would love to could you do it? Could you do it? you could easily do that yeah no problem yeah that's a big thing like if there's a role and you're an actress and there's dancing you have a good shot at it i hope so that would be like the dream right that would be great you got to be telling your manager to look for shit like that i guess there's not a lot of dance well there are there are more musicals and things like that you should be up for you audition for anything not really not really musicals no no i need to get on that you're managing yeah we need to make a call after this i think so i think so too um you were featured in pink's beautiful trauma how was pink she was incredible so i played pink in her video beautiful trauma and she

i didn't get the chance to meet her we were like over face time and it was very cool to be able to collaborate with her she was i think on tour at the time so she was like helping us film this video and she's overseas doing her thing and being amazing. And the choreographers, RJ and Nick were, you know, extremely talented. They had this vision. And it was a very cool part to play. It was like back in like the 60s and she's like beautiful and the trauma and kind of talk about like perfection and all these things. Yeah. Kind of that's where I began to start loving, you know, acting was through dance and all these things. Any, you know, anytime I'm able to like perform and entertain people, That's where I like thrive starting so young entertaining and dance getting thrown up on a stage dancing for X Factor and it being live and having to nail all of your nervous so nervous and like having to nail your choreo realizing like this is live girl so like did you mess up at all no thank God because that would have been really bad you know do you ever mess up yes okay because yeah you're going to do a lot more of that yes I mess up we all we all mess up 100%

And you know how to deal with you. You're like, okay, I messed up. Yes, yes. You can't get down. You have to just keep going. You get more takes. Exactly. Yeah.

But by the way. No, go ahead. No, you go. No, but that's what's very interesting when I began acting and talk about like self-tapes now that being so big. Being in the room, it was very much like it was like one shot and that was it. Then one like I kind of went from this dance into, from what I've been taught at such a young age, everything being perfect.

Because in dance there is no, you obviously you're going to mess up, but like you're going to get in trouble by your choreographer. It's going to be a big ordeal. Like, messing up is not allowed. So when I got into acting, I'd get a script and I thought everything had to be perfect. So like my dog or somebody would bark or the door would open and I'd hear like a creek and I'm like, oh, I'll redo it. Yes, I'd be like, I got to redo it. I don't. And now I'm like, no, those, this is like what happens in life. This is real. So if my dog barks and I can play with it, then I'm going to go ahead and make it work. But, like, it's very interesting coming from that perfectionism and dance and realizing, like, let that all go into acting.

You know, it's very, very interesting. I did a self-tape. Yeah. Not too long ago. It's one of the few self-tapes I've done in recent history in recent times. And I was doing it. And I had somebody reading with me. And my friend Deneen, she had a couple drinks from some soccer thing that they were watching and they came back to my house.

and we're hanging out, we're going to order some food. And she was in the kitchen. She knew I was doing the tape. And in my audition tape, I thought it was so good that I'm not doing another tag. And you could hear her go, and immediately, you're, shh. Tom told her to shush, her boyfriend, because she was about to start talking. She goes, he goes, and you hear it.

And I go, no, it was a comedy, at least. So let him laugh. Let him go, what the hell was that? It was loud. And I was like, you know, tough shit. I'm not doing it again. Oh my gosh. Guess what?

You booked it? No, I didn't. Did not get the part. But, you know, the reason it was, it was funny because when I read it, I go, they're going to go for like a big dude, like Ethan Spley, like a, you know, big, strong bearded kind of guy who could be a coach of a team. And I was like, I go, I don't know. I can be, I just said, I'm going to try it because I like it. Yeah. I tried it.

And they said, yeah, we just want a bigger. guy and a that's in our mind. I'm like, fine. That's rejection. Yeah. You have to. I'm totally cool with rejection. Yeah. Same way. Now it's taking a long time, but I'm cool with it. I'm cool with it. I get over it quickly. It's not something that's easy. Yeah. It took me a long time. Your ego gets in the way and you're like, what's wrong with me? What? What's wrong with them? Totally. Totally. Totally. Yeah. Frick them. I think there's so many pieces to the puzzle when it comes to a role, you know what I mean? Like, that's where facing rejection, I think, is you got to know how to deal with it

and brush it off because it's like, if it's not your role, it's not meant for you, then it's just not meant to be. There will be another one around the corner that's for you and design for you. Like, there's so much that goes into it with the writers and everything where I learned not to take it personally at a young age. Like, there's so much that goes into it. It's not just like the one casting director that's like, we love you. And then I get my hopes up.

And then I'm like, no, it goes to like many, many other people, many other people, you know. By the way, you're really articulate. You're very like, what's the word? She, you handle yourself really well. Like for someone like, you know, you're, you know, but you have like maybe an old soul. I feel like I have an old soul. I do. But you seem like you're definitely more mature than I am.

By far. I don't know if your mom is. But, um, right, Elizabeth? But no, you are. You handle yourself really well. It's not a condescending thing. It's a, like, I look up to you in that regard. You know, I do.

But you, by the way, about dance, I'll say this quickly. It's rhetorical. You don't have to respond and you've talked about it. But the one thing I do regret in theater when I train theater and in college, all through college, is I didn't take a dance class. And I see how much dance can really help with movement as an actor and this. I didn't. But I can sort of dance without having to take that sort of dance. Yeah.

I mean, I have fun and I can move a little bit and it's funny and whatever. But I could see how really intense dance and focus and that sort of thing can really help you as an actress. Yes. I totally. 100% has it. And modeling with movement and being able to pose dance has been extremely beneficial. Modeling and acting. Body language and all that type of things being comfortable in my skin and, you know.

Yeah. comfortable in your body it's very important so I'm thankful for dance in so many ways I yeah you also I'm just we're gonna end with the dancing stuff we're not going to end with the dance I got a couple other things like his midnight club and working with my boy Mike Flanagan and all that shit we'll get into a little bit but you were a backup dancer also for Christina Aguilera Janet Jack Aguilara Aguilara I miss like last night I go I was like is Melissa, Eskridge, is she, is she straight?

My friend goes, it's Etheridge. And then I messed up someone else badly. I was like, the name. I just, I'm not good. I don't know. Same. But Katie Perry, pink, you said pink. Were they all, be honest.

Yeah. Be honest. Out of those three. You don't have to tell me the one. Was there one that you're like, she's got, she's a little attitude. She doesn't care about anybody else. She's like, or there's some attitude there.

you're like, hmm, she's kind of not a nice person. You don't have to say who it is. There's three women. So none of them would know. Was one of those kind of like, okay? There was one that I wouldn't necessarily say that they were kind of, they weren't very rude, but they just were very welcoming, I'd like to say. So I just, I think also too, like I could imagine it being your music video with hundreds of people around.

You don't have time for that. You're in your head. Exactly. So that's why I don't take it personally. I'm like, hey, you know what? We don't want to, we don't have a conversation. That's totally fine. Yeah, so Christine Aguilera was probably just busy.

She probably had a lot going on. No, I'm kidding. Midnight Club. Yes. Well, you did this movie in 2020, Pearl. Yes. That looked like it was, it was a difficult role, was it not? Pearl was my first.

A little independent movie. Yeah, my first lead role with Anthony La Peglia. Yeah. And it also had somebody else in there. Mingna Wen was in it. Mingna Wen, who was a friend of mine. She was on the podcast. She was fantastic. Was she great?

Yes. She is incredible. What's so wild is I like, Bobby Roth, the director, like told me a little bit about her. And then when she got there, I also like to like come into things and I really not know so much about people because it almost like brings like this intimidation on, you know? So I was happy that I didn't really like, I knew she had been in a couple things. and she was just so kind and just so humble that I was like then after like Redden

like watched a bunch of her work and I was like she's good she is incredible she's been in so many things yes she's great and what Anthony Lopaglia yeah was he cool amazing do you still talk to him yes you do yeah but he was the I think I'm like so grateful of that being my my first you know bigger role in a film being with him was just what he taught me. And I know there was, I remember there was this one day where it was a pretty emotional scene and I was like putting so much pressure on myself of like, it has to be, here, the whole perfectioning, it has to be perfect.

Like I want to do great. I want to give my all. Like this is like the first take. And I'm just putting so much added pressure on myself. So we do the take, the first take. And he comes out and he pulls me aside. He's like, you are putting way too much pressure on yourself. holy crap he's like shake that off good for him and I was like he's like Larson you're like

coming into this wanting to start sobbing crying that is not what you like you wouldn't just come up to me like you're like at a birthday party around a ton of people it wouldn't you as your own person wouldn't just come up like sobbing crime it would just be over time something that develops and most of the time you're trying not to cry that's the key so why are you trying to come into this ball and crying. He's like, quit it. That is genius. Yes. Because I've, this helped me early on. Yeah. Someone said human beings. We don't want to cry. Yeah. We do everything not to cry. Yes. So as an actor, you have to think, I'm supposed to cry in this scene. And you're like, I don't want to do this. I don't want to do this. And it's just and it's come and it comes out. Yeah.

And you're like, fuck, I don't want this. And so that's, if you play with that, totally. That was the or wasn't it? Yes. And literally I remember that the next take, I just came into it being like, don't cry. Like, don't like, and you nailed it. And I, it was like, I felt so great about it. I just like came and I like hugged him after it. Were you like going La Paglia, La Paglia. La Paglia. La. No, seriously. But I'm just really, I'm really grateful for him and what he taught me through those three months and just like leading me and knowing it was like my first thing and just like it was really a really great experience. I love him. I love him. I have never met him, but I love him regardless. Gosh, she's an incredible person. So it was a really

good first experience because that could have been tough. Yeah. You could have been working. I'm glad you didn't work with an insecure actor. Yeah. Who's ego and people are weird about things. Oh, she's prettier than I am or she's this. I have to be, I'm going to be a bitch. I'm going to be really. could really affect you especially early on totally and the fact that you had two supportive people there have your back a good environment you're lucky yeah you're very lucky and i'm happy that it was a good experience yeah because it's not always that i don't know how many actors how many actors i worked with not not a ton but people who you go oh man i just thought they were i was hoping they'd be cool they're not cool um it's usually the really big stars who are cool and the people who want to be a

famous who are like right there like think they have something to prove yeah it's usually the guys it it's very interesting come as I've started to work more in acting and just seeing I think the dynamic of how you're treated as an actor on sets and it's very interesting because I did the same kind of thing in dance but was treated completely different like you weren't there like do this do this you're going too high like no water just like you're you know you're stuck in a green room with just like chairs as an actor you're like guided on set every day like in your trailer like you're just treated lawson would you like a cookie yes we had extra cookies from breakfast no really in these 80s they come up there like lerson what can i give i'm like hey i got two feet

i'll go get my lunch don't worry about it like i'll go remember that i'll go walk and get it please like you're doing enough and i think i've seen and become more grateful for that coming from dance and being treated, almost working more hours than I am in acting, I think even harder in dancing and just being treated completely different. You're going to change. I hope. No. Here's the thing.

This is going to happen for a while. You're a really good person. You're going to be this. But like after a while, I'm always nice. I'm never mean. I'm never. But sometimes I'm like, Greg, I love you. What do you want?

I just, could you get me a sandwich? just a little mustard and turkey that's it you know i like you know no my god i do the same thing i like i don't want to always go get my shoot you know you've made it to a certain point where you're like hey people are here to help out and make your day easier so you could be better totally so it's not like you're you know you're an ass so as long as you're kind person and you you want you want people to like you i have that problem i want everybody to like me so i don't want to be a dick but, you know, hey, what do you want for breakfast, Michael? I'm not going to be like, oh, I can go do that.

No, yeah. If they're asking me, you know, I'm in makeup. I don't want to get up. Totally. Yeah, no, I definitely do. I'm just saying, like, from the difference of what I've seen, I know. Just the way that you get treated, it's so sad. It's just like, but I think that's almost where the ego comes in and acting.

You know what I mean? When you are, everything's just kind of like, here you go, here. You know what I think it just. People's like kind of eat that up. Yes. Ego swells and they're like, where's my thing? Where's my, you know, like, where's my purse? Where's my, could you look for my purse?

I think I look at it and say, where's my phone? I just, I was going to say, have you ever yelled at someone? Yes. Who have you yelled at? I've yelled at a lot of people, might. Are you a loud yeller? I'm a pretty loud yeller, yeah. Are you like, like conviction, like you don't ever do that again.

Yeah. give me your best yell saying don't ever do that again don't ever do that again all right jason can we can we do something with that that was pretty good all right let's just hit that on a replay really quick do me a favor do it again back a little bit no i'm kidding you know if it's a fuck what i have to i have to your ear assert fuck that was loud is that jason no you even have earmuffs on that's a good yeller by the way if i was dating you and you yelled at me like that I'd be oh my gosh So I think if it's like, a yell like that comes out very, you have to. Yeah, I don't yell a lot.

No. But back to like what I was saying growing up, like my family, if there's a problem or somebody walks in like with their head down and there's something on their chest, my parents will be the first people to be like, what is it? Like open it up. Right. Like let's talk. Let's sit at the table.

Let's get into the good stuff and figure out why you're acting the way you are. So I'm, like, grateful for that in a lot of ways, but some people come over and it's very like, wow, your family's very loud sometimes or it's, they're very emotional sometimes. But also very warm, engaging. I feel like my parents never let people spend the night. I never really could have friends over. I hated. I resented them for that. I always stayed at my friend's houses.

I was always there. They welcomed me. It was fun. My grandmother, her house was open everybody. My friend Carrie, who. And so I love that you have a family that you could just go in and be comfortable. Like I feel like I could already go into your house and just plop on the couch and go, Lesbeth grab me in a root beer.

She would. Or she said, get it your damn self. You have legs. That's probably what you say. Midnight Club. Yes. Mike Flanagan created, wrote, if you don't know, I'm haunting a hillhouse, Oculus, hush, it goes on and on. he's amazing he's a kind soul he's super talented um doctor sleep what was it like working with

michaelan did you have any of those big monologues no thank god yeah some people have that yes were they scared yes he has those and that's one of the reasons why i don't i'm too scared to work with him right now i don't i can't learn a three page monologue yeah that's terrifying yeah i won't get through it not three pages i'll go i'll get through half a page and then we'll you know, then I'll just, I'll go, okay, what's the line? And then you'll have about three cutaways. That's it. But what was he like?

Oh, Mike. Did he yell? No. So it's very, Mike is, like you said, he is just the most warm, kind. He is, he's just such a grounded individual. And he, like, it just blew me. It made me enjoy the experience and enjoy working with him even more, just seeing what a great person he is.

But I think something I love is just how close. clear his vision is and how that shines through in the way that he directs us as actors. He knows what he wants. He knows what he wants. And that was really great working with somebody like that who would just come up and be like, hey, Larson, try it like this. And I'd be like, oh, you're right. I didn't even like think of doing it like that. Let's do it. Let's just try it. And I love like the, so for the Midnight Club, most of the, um, within the group of kids, it was some of them their first project. And so I remember we did like a, uh, at our table read, the first, and during like prep, the first two weeks,

Mike took us through and just basically, like, showed us, walked through basically everything you'll need to know to be an actor on set. Did anybody get fired from the table read? No. Okay, keep going. And I just, I really enjoyed that. And I think it was like very helpful that what I love about him too is the fact that he gives people a chance.

You know what I mean? Mike isn't. He wants to see you shine. Yes. And he's, very just welcoming and made it everyone feel so comfortable like he's so experienced and everyone was just like learning what to do for the first time and he was like hey for the first take do what you've practiced second take have you know have some fun with it third take do whatever

you want let's just lose everything you've lose everything you've lose everything you've set up in your mind and the choices you've made and it was always like that yeah that's how it always should be that's what I would say read it how it's written first second if we got it then we're going to go ever just try something yes um did you work with my good buddy robert long street no you think it's working with me he played the janitor i haven't seen it yet i'm gonna watch it yeah i haven't seen it yeah do you do any um accents by the way or uh impressions no you can't do any impressions i mean dialects i really need to work on my british accent oh i'm not that's the one thing i'm i could do a better australian i think

Path, Adelaide, Sydney, Melby. And my family's all from Melbourne. On my mom's side. Do you ever go there? Never been actually. It's awesome. Oh, I want to go so bad. It's awesome.

I've been there a couple times. Robert Longstreet. He was the janitor in Midnight Club for two episodes. Let me see how he is this. You'll know him. Oh, yeah. Watch. This dude.

Oh, yes. Okay, no, so I didn't meet him. Sadly. Was he good? Yes. He's always good. I mean, what I love about the Midnight Club It's very, which I'm very sad.

It didn't get picked up for a second season. But, you know. Were you surprised? Yeah, I was a little bit surprised. I think it's a... I was too, because everything Flanagan does, it goes. Yeah, yeah. And I think, though, the message even within the first season is just so well done.

And I think it, you know, it explores life and death through the eyes of young kids. I love the concept. And it's just the way that Christopher Vike and actually reading up the story behind how the Midnight Club came to be for Christopher for Pikey, like a mother of her daughter, who was very sick, reached out to him with cancer and said that they would meet and, like, talk about Christopher, Christopher Pike's books at night. So she said, can you write a book about us? And that's how the Midnight Club came to be. And I'm like, wow, that is just so incredible.

And then the way that Mike just, you know, through all the stories, how each, you know, story feeds into the past of the characters or, you know, feeds their own character development. It was just so well done. Like, I just didn't blown away. Like, being able to see the whole thing because I didn't get to work with the seven kids directly. I'm playing back in the 60s young Samantha Sloane. So I didn't get to act with them as a group.

So being able to watch the series straight through and see them as a unit. And gosh, my friend Ruth Cod, she just blew me away. Really? And her backstory, she was found off TikTok. And so talk about, like, how things have changed. It's just like... Isn't that amazing? Back in the day,

if you did TV, you couldn't do film. Hmm. And film people, snobs. I'm not doing TV. Wow. And now everybody wants to do TV.

Yes. Everybody wants to do a series. Name one person who doesn't. Kevin Koster's doing it. Everybody does it. Yeah. Helen Mirren's doing a new series or some shit. That's so wild.

So it was like... Harrison Ford. Yeah. So if it was like, if you're in TV... You can do what you want now. Yeah. You do YouTube. Fine.

Your YouTube star. great yes let's do it yeah um this is called shit talking with larson thompson these are rapid fire these are questions from my top tier patrons i love them they support the podcast it truly helps us go to patreon.com slash inside of you and i'll send you a message here we again i think she's laughing at i just love seeing your expressions each time i look at I'll be like, I'm used to this. Are you laughing at me or with me? I'm laughing with you.

I love to laugh. Good. Yeah. Like hang around us. Yeah. I think that's also why people enjoy my company. Oh, so you laugh at everybody.

No, no. I just am very, you get, I can, I laugh very easily. So people I think like to have me around because it makes them think they're, which you are funny. But like if you want to feel funny, just have me around for the day because I will laugh. Really? that's a good person to be around i like that because you know i always say i want someone that could enjoy things that i really enjoy like don't laugh at me at folks listeners but i uh i like going to

the mall sometimes my friend shear and i'll go shopping we'll have a coffee we'll sit on a brickstone massage thing i love them all too i like i like going doing stupid stuff shopping going to whatever I don't know who's that inner child. No. What? You're doing an impression and I'm trying to think of what it was. I don't do this. There's this.

What am I doing? I don't know. I wasn't doing walking. I could do it if you want. I think it'd probably tie it. Me doing it. Kelly asks, how was it like working with Heather Langenkamp? Oh, Heather.

Heather's very... There I go. Nightmare on Elm Street. Yep. Well, she signed my... poster I hope so go ahead oh Heather so Heather and I didn't get to work directly with one another but we met the nicest she is so sweet yeah legend gave me a hug like the first time we met and just like a total dream she sat at like our table read when we were like

giving an introduction for how to basically be an actor on set and she was like acting as if she's learning everything for the first time too I'm just like you are like did you have her sign anything no I should little Lee so what was it like what was the last TV show you've been just watched oh the last year gosh I watched you watch Dommer shows no so dark oh my lord you know what I'm watching I'm binging right now no for all mankind on Apple TV probably one of my favorite shows of all time I remember trying to start it and I was okay so yeah the first three episodes very it's hard it gets great oh all right will you email me that

to remind me? Yes. If you asked my mom got me on to it, I'm, I can't stop watching. The acting. Want to try that series? It's unbelievable. Just get through the first three episodes and then it's one of those. It's kind of get to the first. They say that about wire. Because it sets the story. The show wired. They talk about that show

and they're like, one of the best shows ever made. I'm like, I watched two episodes and I could not sit through it. And they're like, you just have to get through like three or four and then it's brilliant. And I'm like, oh, Lord. Kind of like White Lotus. I was like, I don't like anybody. I don't it's just like I don't know and I kept watching and watch and then at the end it got better

yeah but I was like you know I don't want to watch five episodes I don't care about but people love it I get it I like I didn't hate it I'd say yeah watch it you should definitely watch it yeah yeah but I just it's I don't know I just wasn't I'll never do that sure I think I want I want you to watch it because the acting too is just phenomenal all right Jackie are favorite role you've played so far favorite rule I played so far probably I've really Enjoyed Julia Jane in the Midnight Club. Midnight Club. Just being able to play those flashbacks and be in the 60s.

I've always wanted to do, period. What's your favorite 60s song? Oh, God. Just walk away Renee. I think it's 60s. Yeah, I don't know. You don't know that one. La, la, la, la, la.

There was the one song we were playing when I was on set that day, and I'm like. Can't remember. it. Yeah, from the 60s. And I was like, I could live in this era. I think I was meant to live in this era. Maya P. What would you be doing now if you weren't acting or dancing? Probably playing soccer. Well, you can't do that for a living. Yeah, you could. You have neck problems. That's too late to start. No, but if I hadn't been dancing, I wouldn't have gotten the neck problem. Good. I like it. So soccer. Okay, so soccer player. I'm not going to crush your dreams if you weren't doing your dreams now.

Yeah. I'm dream crushing right now. A little bit. Sorry. No, it's all right. Okay. Raj, last questions. Tell me, tell me a personal sacrifice you feel you've had to make to pursue a career

in the entertainment industry. Wow. Can I guess? Yeah, sure. It's hard to be away from your family. And it's like for the first time, you're actually away doing different things and you miss them. Yeah.

What else? No, I, like, that's pretty great because it is. It's very isolating sometimes, like, just being away for three months, six months, filming something. And you're just like, I'm very close to my family. I have a hard time being alone. And it is part of the job. Thankfully, like, my parents can come out and, like, visit, which they haven't yet, you know. Bastards.

Have you ever had a beer? No. Have you ever had vodka? No. Have you ever had an alcoholic beverage? wine in Greece did you like it no did you throw up no I didn't but I my parents are were this is the story they drink no so my parents are actually 22 years sober oh wow well that makes there you go that makes perfect sense yeah so you don't want to it's in the blood

maybe exactly you don't want to do that yeah it's funny my parents were never big drinkers yeah I never was worried about being addicted to that alcohol never had that addiction right me yeah no you drink I do not a lot my parents live in wine country so there's wine all the time yeah this has been a real treat this has been a treat thank you guys so much I was I was hoping you never laugh and that you were just laughing because you wow this is funny stuff no Michael you made it very clear abundantly clear no I'm kidding I'm talking with you I don't I really enjoy this and obviously I'm be honest with you. Can I be completely open? I talked to Ryan. I like, yeah. Look, I don't know Larson. Yeah. She doesn't have a big body of work yet. She's, you know, just growing and she's, she's, she's, but I don't know. I'm like, how do, what angle? What is there, you know, because I like to just, and it was so easy to just free, just go, what is not free base? What's a free? Jesus, no. What is it called? Just start something and then continue talking. Free form, free flow. Free flow. It was.

It was just, you were so easy to talk to it. You had stories. You had things about your life. You're proud of who you are. You're proud of your family. It was refreshing. You know, it's refreshing to sometimes not hear about, you know, because of this industry can weigh on you.

And, you know, people get into drugs, people getting to alcohol, people getting to, there's a lot of bad things out there. And the fact that you haven't been affected by that and you're in this business and you're pretty grounded. It makes me really happy. and it makes me have hope for the world and young people, whatever, you know, just, I mean, you're not that young. I'm not like you're 50, but I'm just saying, you know what I mean?

I appreciate that. Yeah. Thank you. So keep doing what you're doing. Thank you. Don't forget the little people. Oh, come on. Well, come on.

I've heard that before. I mean, there's people that I, you know. No, we'll be sitting here 10 years from now. Yeah, and I'll be like, what was it like beating up Meryl Streep? in that scene and you're like I you know it was hard because I don't really like um you know um hitting or you know no I actually do I enjoy all that stuff the grunggy stuff oh boy where I can like be beating people up oh why don't we why don't we talk about that you know it's also cool is when you lashed out a minute ago whether Jason cuts it or not she she screamed

and it might be it might have been too loud for the mic but maybe it's in there I don't know but it was funny because the contrast I saw you you're able to you're able to turn on the dime you're able to just go prick off yeah thanks for being on the podcast thanks for allowing me to be inside of you in the podcast and it was a real treat Ryan did you have good time great time yeah a little refreshing interview yeah see you guys see yeah oh wait wait what's your handle. Larson Thompson. At. At Larson Thompson on everything. Not Thompson Larson, like Michael. Well, it's not at. You didn't just give away your email, did you? No. Okay, good. Yeah. Because you said at. The like Instagram handle at Larson. Larson with an E. Larson, not oh, like a grandma. Yeah. And

anything brewing coming up. I'm, but you have the horror movie horror scope. Yes, that comes out in 2023. If your horror fans like me, you better be looking for that. Yes. And I'm actually launching my first single in music. Are you Larson Thompson? Yeah. It's just Larson Thompson? Yeah. Well, you know, I want to hear some of your stuff.

I have a band called Sunspin. I know. You do? Yes. How do you know that? Because I knew that. Oh, good. Keep watching.

Thanks. Thank you. Wonderful human being. It was a joy to have her on, full of life. I mean, a lot of people, I'm sure you don't know her or didn't know her. And I think she's such a good thing. and she got Anthony La Paglia. He's coming on the podcast. She worked with him and I've been emailing with him and he said, yeah, come on the podcast. So she was really cool to help me out with that.

Cool, cool, cool. All right. Thank you for listening. And inside of you, uh, inside of your online store, go there. Great merch like I talked about in the beginning. If you can hear about it. Also, Sunspin, my band Sunspin, the album is out streaming everywhere. Please listen to it. Download it. Put it on Spotify. Support the band. Sunspin. The new album. is never is what it is. You know what? I never do this, Ryan. What? You're going to play a Sonspin song? You never do that. I really don't, do I? Very rarely. It's been a while. And it's been a while. Remember that song?

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