Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - MING-NA WEN: Honoring Karate Kid, Dealing with Nerves & Women’s Reward for the Human Race

Episode Date: June 10, 2025

Ming-Na Wen (Mulan, The Mandalorian) joins us in person this week to talk about the experience of her new film Karate Kid: Legends - from the nerves of working with her idol Jackie Chan to the tone of wanting to honor the legacy of the Karate Kid franchise. Ming-Na opens up about outside perspectives on her tenure in this industry and why she began to unravel with he announcement of her Hollywood star on the Walk of Fame. We also talk about how an old E.R. episode saved her dog’s life, reflections on the Disney trifecta, and what made her truly understand the weight and loss-of-control that comes with anxiety attacks. Thank you to our sponsors: 🛍️ Shopify: https://shopify.com/inside 🚀 Rocket Money: https://rocketmoney.com/inside ❤️ This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/inside and get on your way to being your best self __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou 👕 Inside Of You Merch: https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🤣 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod 🌐 Website: https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What else is there, Ryan? You're going on a cruise? Going on a cruise. There's still tickets for Cruzville in June, June 15th to the 22nd. There's my dog. That's Charlie. A couple days before you do that. Yeah.

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I'm just going to leave it in if you hear my dog's barking. And he's been a menace today. I don't know what's going on. I guess I have to walk him again. But she's amazing. And we talk about the new karate kid, which is really exciting. Ralph Machio, Jackie Chan. And let's just get inside of Ming Na Win. It's my point of you. You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. I know you have a strong fan base, and the loyalty is just... What would we do without them? Nothing. We would do nothing.

We would do nothing. Yeah. We wouldn't be hired. I know. You go to these cons and you see familiar faces. People that have come to other cons to see you, and people that have come to other cons to see you, and they're just, they're following your career. They're supporting you.

How does that make you feel? What do you call con groupies? I wouldn't call them groupies. Conners? No, connies. What would we call them? Just, well, you can come up with their own word. Yeah.

But I would say they're fans, but I would say, you know, I like Connors. I don't know. Just fans. What would you say, Ryan? Yeah. Conventioneers. Conventioneers. Wow.

that is so official you know i always i always say this though but like people don't realize the people that go to the conventions the fans this is like go for us going on vacation they this is a vacation for them they love it they you know you know what i've because um i'm married to a non geek i know i've met him many times yeah yeah and it's kind of i guess opposites attract kind of thing, but I had an argument with him about this because he's like, it's so crazy that all these people come to these conventions. I'm like, well, it's the same as when they go to a sports event. A hundred percent. This is our sports event. Yeah, this is right. And I'm like, and the sports fans dress up and their face wear their jerseys and paint their faces.

Wow, good analogy. Thank you. And you don't think it's weird, but all of a sudden, like, these people are cosplaying and having a great time and this is their world. This is their world. It's our world. It's our world. It really is. Because I'm a fan. Yeah. I go to convention sometimes like horror movie convention. And they go to every game. There's like 900 games, right? In every sports, every year. And they go and you don't think like it's weird. But then all of a sudden when it's because it's a different genre. It's a genre or the nerds like they think they poo poo down on it. And so I won the argument. Let's just put it out.

Good. Because you don't understand it until you've done it. In the beginning, you're kind of figuring it out. There's so much joy. You hear this? This is what I have a crazy house. I have dogs. I know.

That's okay. Charlie! It makes it real. Charlie! Yeah. You listen to you. I know. You need a mom's voice.

Now, we can get in all this stuff more. But like when you first got here, we're going up the stairs in my living room. Speaking of dogs. And you said you didn't sleep at all. No. I had like an hour and a half. So what happened to your dog? Um, he is 14 years old, a Havonese, a little cute Havonese named James.

And, um, uh, I didn't want a dog because I lost my previous dog. And it's the hardest thing. And it was so painful and I'm not a masochist, but the kids talked Eric into getting another puppy 14 years ago. And of course, he immediately. Gravitates. Yeah. To mama.

So yesterday, uh, he's been having seizures. from his collapsed um he has a partially collapsed trachea and an enlarged heart and each and every time i've been able to like you know like get him out of the seizure and last night was a really bad one and we really thought we were i'm compartmentalizing this so that i'm not going to cry um right but um so we really thought he was going he was having trouble breathing his gums was turning blue I'm holding him, cradling him, you know, saying good boy, good boy, good boy, good boy. Okay, not compartmentalizing very well. I know.

And so we thought that was it. You know, the kids were saying, they were home. So they were saying goodbye to him. And then I remembered an episode of ER where Noah Wiley gives this dog CPR by breathing into his nose. nose. Yep. So I did that. And you close the mouth. I closed the mouth and I breathe into his nose. You just breathe heavily in. Yes. You grab a deep breath of oxygen and you breathe it into him. And I did it about like 10 times. And, you know, while I was kind of giving him this massage on the heart and he came back. Unbelievable. So it was kind of amazing.

Because he was from being lethargic and, like, he's dying. He's not moving. It's suddenly, like, he lifted his head up and looked at me. And it was like... He was fine. And he was doing much better, you know? So I kept... And, like, right now, he's still breathing on his own and he's doing well.

So we'll see. It is so difficult. I think it's almost harder to lose a dog. then losing it a human being in a way dogs are so like maybe i don't know i don't know yeah well i wouldn't say that but like for me anyway because that's all i've ever i mean just pure unconditional love they're always there yeah they just they you know they're our children they are you know i mean i don't want to compare james and the other dogs to my two kids but it is part of the family and uh and there is you know there's such an attachment so yeah never getting another dog again

Are you not falling? Nope. Because it's too hard. Because I'm not a masochist. Yeah. I can't do it to myself. Yeah. Why? Yeah.

It's just, it's too. I have friends who can. I have, and I'm sure maybe you're like, because you have several dogs here. Yeah. And they're really behaving themselves after I yelled at Charles. I was really. I like that you said Charles. Charlie, you go Charles.

I call him Charles when he's bad. So it's like, especially Charles. Yeah. And, yeah, you know, they're your family. Well, good for you. You remember. So ER essentially saved your life, watching Noel Wiley, your dog's life, sorry. And my heart.

It saved my heart yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. And now the rest of the family, if you're not around, maybe they know to do that. Right. Right. Yeah, but there gets to a point where. Because my daughter was like, what are you, what do you keep checking?

Because I kept checking his gum to see, you know, if the color was coming back. And, you know, when they saw me breathing into his nose, they just thought it was crazy. well you're a good mom thank you um yeah i know you're promoting the hell out of this movie karate kid legends you just run kt la this morning right you're gonna do access hollywood or something yeah later yeah do you get do you like to impress no you don't i'm only here because of you yes but you don't love press you don't love like talking and cb i was i was saying to my girlfriend it's really like the antithesis of being an actor it really really is. It's the other part of our job that we do. And some people are amazing and they love it.

I don't know. Do you get stressed? I get very stressed. Are you stressed right now? No, no. I'm not home. This, this, this, that's why I said yes, because I know we're going to just having a nice conversation. I don't have to be perky if I don't want to be. Hey, KTLA here. We are here with Ming Nguyen. And okay, can I tell you how uncomfortable newscast sit? Have you been, they have to, like, their table is down here by their knees. So the table is shoved up against your thigh. That might be kind of nice. And so it's really low. And you're on, you're on like this chair. And it's just the most awkward position to have to act natural. Well, everything's sort of like they put it on and God bless them. They have to do it. They have to be.

They have to get the audience, like, they have to have the excitement. Like, you're doing this movie. Tell us about. And you have to say it in a very concise form. Yeah, they don't want you to talk and talk. Nope. How is it working with so-and-so? Great.

Thanks. Go see this movie, folks. Yeah. And it's just a short blurb. Yeah. It's not really, it doesn't get personal. Yeah. It doesn't get, you don't get to get inside of me, no one.

Ah. You see what I'm saying? Inside of you. Inside of you. We are here. Inside of you. But look, what, A, how much fun was it working on this? Oh, my goodness.

Okay, come on. I'm working with the OG Karate Kid, Ralph Machu. I love the franchise from, you know, its inception. Jackie Chan, my idol. Was he sweet? Oh, beyond. Really? Look, if you feel like you're like top dog as far as being a generous,

magnanimous actor on set, it's nothing compared to what he does. What is it about Jackie Chan that separates him from everyone else? Well, you think, okay, here's this massive, massive superstar, right? So, and he's got his entourage because he's so used to, that's a Hong Kong thing, you know, doing the whole entourage thing. And it's like, it's family. It's like he's so used to it. It doesn't eat. It's like breathing for him.

But then instead of being selfish, about your fame, your stardom, your wealth, whatever it is, your talents, all of it, he is so generous. He wants you to share in the fun of being a megastar. Like, he, he welcomes you into, he's still the center of attention, right, you know, cool. Cracking jokes. But he invites you into it, and he is the hardest working guy. He's never in the trailer. They got them, they got him this huge ass trailer. Of course. And he's always on set.

I bet you had a big trailer. No. You didn't? No. Modest? Modest, yeah. Good enough. Good enough.

Yeah. Okay. What are the double bangers? At least it wasn't a triple banger. I don't like, why did they call them bangers? Is it because people used to? Yeah. And occasionally a triple bang.

That's what they would do. You know, it was, you know, if he had a. I don't know. Why do they call them bangers? Why do they call them bangers? Look it up, Brian. Bangers. I don't know, but like I remember in the old days, not even the old days, it just depends

what film you're on. Sometimes, you know, you get to the point where you're a trailer, a big trailer for yourself. Sometimes you're sharing two trailers that are adjacent, that are smaller spaces. And then other times it's like those jail cellars where it's like this little Yes. There's a small urine. I don't even, there's a urinal in there. Some don't have it in some does. Have you ever been in? And I don't think I want one with the urinal like literally right next to where you're sitting. That's prison. That's prison. Because we're getting into prison. I mean, have you ever been in the early days? Were you ever, did you ever have a small, small trailer? Yeah. Yeah. And you didn't think about it. No. Did you ever think one day? One day. Of course when you see the bigger trailers. Yeah. But, you know, but I mean, yeah, he never, he never spent time in there.

I have an answer. An answer. What's the answer? Banger's shorthand way to indicate the number of doors it has. Bangers. So mine, dirty little mine went and sweat. Your filthy mind. Because when I first heard that term, I was like, what?

I'm getting a what? You're getting a double banger. Yes. So, all right, I need to talk to my husband before I accept this job. inside of you is brought to you by quince i love quince ryan i've told you this before i got this awesome sixty dollar cashmere sweater i wear it religiously you can get all sorts of amazing amazing clothing for such reasonable prices look cooler temps are rolling in and as always quince is where i'm turning for fall staples that actually last from cashmere to denim to boot

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And was Ralph like that? Ralph's like very shy, isn't he? He's quiet. He's definitely. He's been on the podcast. He's great. He's great. I love Ralph, but completely opposite energy, which is kind of good for this film.

Yeah. You know, to have that. those dynamics, because I think it could create a lot of comedy, you know, and tension. But yeah, he's more reserved, you know, totally authentic and sincere. And this is his baby, this franchise, you know. So he was very involved. Involved in the way of wanting to make sure that it's honored and that Miyagi's honored. And, you know, the Karate Kid franchise continued because, like, I mean, he did so good with the

Cobra Kai bringing it. all back. Yeah. And I think that's part of the reason why, you know, this project came to be because of the popularity of the series. Have you seen the movie? Yes. And?

It's awesome. It's just action-packed. I bet there's a lot of heart. There's, yes, heart, family, loyalty. All the things that make karate kids special. A lot of fight scenes. So many great fight scenes. You didn't get to fight.

No, isn't that crazy? That's the only thing I'm bummed up. And you can. Yeah. You can do this stuff. I know. I've been doing it for years. A long time.

A long time. And then the one time I get to work with Jackie Chan, I don't fight. I tried. I tried to talk Jonathan and whistle to give you a scene. Give me a little something like just, like a little surprise that like maybe mom can fight. She just doesn't want to fight. Or they should have just let you catch a fly with chopsticks. That would have been awesome.

Like, I got it. It shows everything right in that moment. Yeah. That's amazing. I'm excited to see this. I love the Karate Kid franchise. I remember seeing it and it was just like larger than life and the music and the, you know, it's cool. Have they already talked about doing another one?

I don't know. We'll see how well this one does. I hope it does well. Yeah. I mean, look, you've done so much. I mean, I can go on and on about your career. And you're young. It's amazing you've done this much work.

Yes. no you look just look young you know it's better to look good than the field that's right let me tell you you remember that guy you look absolutely marvel my daddy always told me fernando don't be a schnox it's not how you feel it's how you look that's so good you look marvels joy luck club mandolian uh mulan boba fat karate kid legends er uh what else uh marvels agents of shield agents of shield for god's Streetfighter, Hacks. Do you love the business?

Do you love what you do? I love when I'm working, yeah. I love it. Love it, love it. What happens when you're not working? How do you feel? Do you have to keep, are you one of those? I used to be anxious.

I used to feel frustrated, anxious, and, you know, we always have that syndrome like, we'll never work again. I still do. I still have that syndrome. You still feel like that? I still feel that way. And, but less, because I, I'm kind of transitioning right now where I'm finishing my cookbook.

A cookbook now. A cookbook. I'm an author. What's it called? We don't know yet. That's the name of the book. We don't know yet. I'm an author too. The talented fart or it's a sound book.

Oh, just as classy. Look at that. Yes. Can I hear the sound of the fart? Sure. I love fart. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's one is a good one.

And would you believe me? Did you record? I was going to say, did you record your farts? I recorded them and sent them to the publisher. Wow. And they said, is this a real fart? I'm like, yep. Wow.

Did you eat a lot of beans for that cover one? No, it was just one of those things when you're watching a movie and you're hanging out with your friends. You're like, oh, guys, quiet for a second. No, shit. Oh, that was good. But it makes sense in the book because each this kid has a talent to make his farts. sound like things that you hear every day like he could sound like his friend who's a frog he could

sound like a like a song on the radio wait you you can do that with you well inadvertently so I sometimes I'm like oh wow that sounds like so you could do impressions here and here yes my mouth and my ass mouth yeah anyway look I love the book I you saw I'm a publisher a publisher a publisher No, I'm not a publisher. I'm an author. See, I don't even know what I am. You're an author. When does the book come out?

What's it called? I don't, we don't have a title for it yet. It's slow process, isn't it? It takes forever because there's so many cooks in the kitchen. There are, though, right? There are. There are. Because you want it to look right?

It's been a real amazing learning experience, and I have such greater appreciation, not just for cookbooks, but for books. in general. Creating anything. Yes. Coming up with an idea is one thing. Everybody has ideas. Yes. But to actually execute them?

Totally different. Nobody does that. Very few people do it. So when anyone makes a movie, you're a success. I don't care how bad the movie is. And I may hate it. True, true. But I'm like, you know what?

You made a movie. Yeah, you got the funding. You got the people. You did it. You made a book. You made it, whatever it is. Yeah. Just go do it.

Yeah. If you love it and you have an idea, see how you can make it come to fruition. Are you going to fart? No, I had a hiccup. Oh, that was a hiccup. Does your, can you make hiccup noises?

No, but does your, I bet your husband doesn't fart at all. Oh, he farts. In front of you? Oh, yeah. Do you laugh? You know what? We'll be celebrating.

No. Let me guess. Want to guess. This June. 15. Oh, times two. 30 years? And you love him just as much?

Yeah. I mean, I'm like, In what way? Yeah, yeah. I love him just as much. I'm so excited. What do you love about your husband? What is he bring you?

Just love companionship, babies. He helped me make some babies. That was pretty important. He listens to you? Yeah, you know, it's so weird. I kind of feel like I'm becoming more and more like my mom and my aunties because I'm starting to watch it. Since this movie, since Karate Kid, legends, because I had to learn to, I had to speak Chinese, and I realized that my Mandarin was really bad. Because you haven't done it for so long.

No, because I speak Chinese, but I spoke it with like a really bad Suzzo, New York accent. Really? Like a Southern Brooklyn, like a Chinese Southern Brooklyn accent. And you didn't like that? they didn't like that they didn't like that so i had to basically unlearn how i've been speaking and relearn the the more authentic like clean intellectual dialogue that dialect of the mandarin how difficult was that it was very difficult it's worse to have to unlearn something because you think you're so stuck in that you think you're speaking it perfectly and they're like

no that's not how you say that it would be like if if you know you've been you know like you learn that baby is not baby, it's babet. Babet. And now you've got to unlearn what you've learned. Yeah, that's so weird. So anyhow, I started watching a lot of C dramas and K dramas, Chinese dramas and Korean dramas. And, oh, my God. It helped.

They're so good. They're so good. But now when you see Netflix, it's just like all these Asian dramas, just like my mom used to have. Really? Is your mom still with us? Yes. How old is she? She is 90.

She's going to be 90 in... See, there's another weird thing. Like, the Chinese, consider when you're born to be your first year that you're one years old because you've already been incubating for about 10 months. Wow. Yeah. So it's always a little weird to... So you're actually, you're younger in...

In American years, or regular, whatever. Regular years. Regular. The rest of the world years. So your mom... So when you're born, you're one. Yeah. So she already celebrated her Chinese 90th.

That's why I hesitated. Wow. But we're going to be celebrating her rest of the world 90 years old in August. Is she like, why are we celebrating this? This doesn't make no sense. We already celebrated. Is she still have a spark to her? Is she still funny?

Yeah. She makes you laugh? Unintentionally. Yeah. Is she negative? I have a feeling. I don't even know your mom, but I have a feeling she just says it how it is.

Oh, one billion. She says things that you don't want to hear, actually. Yeah. Like she'll say something about you. And she says, oh, yeah, I watched that and this. Mm-hmm. You did this.

She doesn't know what I really do. She doesn't quite understand it. She's never understood it? She doesn't, doesn't. Yeah. She doesn't watch your performance and go, oh, I really liked you. She has.

She has. What does she come out and said, I loved, I loved you? You would think it would, be Joy Luck Club, right? You would think it would be, you know, or even just be impressed with my fight scenes. Right. Well, like Star Wars. Okay. My all-time childhood dream come true role is manifested. I show it to her the series with Chinese subtitles so she can understand what's going on. What she's saying? She's like, you like, you like this. The Star Wars is you like you like why you like this my like she was like it was so condescending like

why why like she couldn't understand why I would be interested in playing that part well so I think my I think you know older people tend to do that my grandparents if I did something I'm like, what is, what is that? But we're not like that. Like, I'm not like that with my kids. No, you know. This is great. And if I don't understand it, then I go and find out.

I find out why they're passionate about gaming or why they're passionate about, you know, whatever. She was, so her. So, I mean, she couldn't even fake it. Like, she knows how much I love Star Wars. She couldn't fake it. The way she said it, it made it sound like, how do you like this? Why do you like it? Why do you like it?

Meanwhile, I did this just for my SAG insurance when things were a little dry. I did this, like, kind of B movie called Super Cyclone. Just to make my insurance. Just to make my insurance. Okay. You know, right? Because it's very important. I had kids.

And it wasn't that bad, you know. It was okay. It was just like cheesy. like shark nato like a shark nato kind of thing right my mom calls me up and she's like manna man i see you i see you in the movie on tv and like oh which one she's like uh you uh you uh you uh you know the hurricane and wonderful i love it what she loved it the one movie that i was hoping never ends up in like red box even that just kind of like sort of disappears a little bit she loved it wow academy award winning super cyclone i remember i didn't i directed a comedy for

very little money and uh all my dad did was he texts me and goes we're in the theater watching your movie and i go oh great that was it no other comment oh i'm so glad it's not just And I'm not gonna just, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, I don't do that. I don't go, what do you think? How do you like it? Because you're setting yourself up for disaster. Don't do it. Just like, great. Goodbye. I'm not expecting anything from you. Right, right. I mean, you know, okay, it was so low budget. Like literally, when we had to do a scene where we're, we're being carried up to on this on this super cyclone in the car. Now, if you think of like any of the like the big budget, like they would like, like, do it to the nines, right? Or CGI. We did it practical, practical where me and Nick Tuturo pretended that we were being elevated up in the car. So he started rising?

So he started fucking rising up in the car while people were throwing branches and mud on the windshield. What were you just laughing while you're doing this? Oh, it was so funny. It was my best, I would have to say, it was my best concentration for acting because it was the stupidest, silliest thing I had ever done in my life. Literally, we pretended. Oh, my gosh. While they were throwing shit and water and everything on the windshield.

Did you have fun, though, doing it? Yeah, yeah. But did you see it? It was silly. I saw that scene because I wanted to see, like, how it turned out. And actually it didn't turn out too bad. But you knew that when you were going into it, like, you know what this is. I'm getting my SAG insurance.

I had fun. I'm going to be pleasant. I'm going to do my job. And my mom loved it. And your mom loved it. So, yeah. How many things did she liked? She's loved.

She's like your ER? Yes, because I got to be a doctor. Yeah. Ultimate Asian mom dream is for their daughter to be a doctor. Yes. Oh, my gosh. Isn't it hard doing procedurals because of all the dialogue and the words that you don't understand that you have to look up and kind of understand what the word is and then convey it in a way where people understand it and you believe it? Yeah, and we have to dance with all the other people in all the procedurals.

Yeah, did you have time to learn all that dialogue? Not just learning the dialogue. We have to actually choreograph it with the camera and, you know, the other people of what we're doing. It was always super intense, especially the one. which is now so popular right studio does it that amazing the pit adolescence oh i haven't seen that oh i've seen i'm ashamed of you i've seen it i'm ashamed of you i'm ashamed of you i watch the pit with noel wiley no it's so good so good but yeah i love the adolescence and i'm so you have to just for its ingenuity and camera work and acting and it is a marvel

all right an entire episode in one shot in one shot but done in a way where you can't tell yeah it took me a few minutes into the episode the first episode to realize they haven't cut holy am i am i wrong they had to have cut you know so i would like go but i'm like nope they didn't cut there does it get better after the first episode because i saw the first episode and i thought it was it was okay it was a little slow oh you did see i saw one but does it get even better was i mean if the first episode didn't get you. I liked it. I didn't go nuts over it. I thought the pit was more is the pit. The pit doesn't use oneers. Well, no, but the pit is one season is one day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like an hour in real time of what's going on. Yeah. And I found that to be

fascinating. Yeah. And Noah Wiley's exceptional. Is he always cool to work with? The best. Did you ever work with any assholes in your career? Yes. And I'm not. You won't mention them. I know. Yeah. But what do you do? I always ask this question because I'm curious as to how you, do you sort of go? Well, I look at myself in the mirror and say, stop it. No, I'm just kidding. Don't be an asshole.

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Do you say something like, hey, you know, chill out. You don't need to act like that. Or do you just go, I'm going to do my thing and I'm not going to pay attention to it. It really depends on the circumstances, I think. But ultimately, you just stay as far away from that toxic energy as possible. You go in and you do the job that you're supposed to do. And as long as they are not hurting another person, you know, they're like in their trailer for hours on end. I've never had that, though.

But I've had ones where they're really clever at being an asset. asshole. Those are the harder ones. I prefer the ones that are. They're phonies. They know how to turn it on and be nice, but they're not. They're out for themselves. They are. Yeah. And you see that through that pretty quickly. Yeah. Yeah. Or the people that like befriend you and you think you're, you know, friends. And then it ends up. You find out. Those, those are, those are worse for me than someone who's just being an asshole. Have you ever refused the job because someone you had worked with is doing that and you don't want to deal with that again no you know what i've been really fortunate though i've it's never gotten that bad i've heard all these horror stories of um

you know people who are just ridiculous in mean and i've never never experienced that do you stress out still about work do you get nervous still i was nervous about karate kid legends working with jacky chan you were nervous How nervous do you get before you shoot something? And does it go away pretty quickly after you start shooting? Yeah, it's weird, isn't it? It's like stage fright. It's like you get through a scene, you're like, okay, this is just a real person.

This is just like, okay, now let's do the work. Like when I'm actually in the head of the character, I'm okay. It's when I come out of it that I get a little, yeah, there's that weird nervous. But I always feel like if you're not nervous, then something else is wrong. Like, I think being nervous is good. Yeah, but you seem to get confidence, the more and more you start working on a film. Like the first scenes, I hear that everybody's always nervous until they get the first lines out and they start to, and then they're in it. How much do you prepare?

I try to, I overprepared. Like, I want to know the lines inside out so I could pick up something. I could think about something else while I'm talking. talking to them to make it as real as possible because no one thinks about what they're going to say. They just sort of like right now, I'm saying it. So you want it to come out just naturally, as naturally as you can. So I try to prepare that so at least I know that is down. I know the character.

I know the words going there and then you can have some fun. Are you like some of those actors that also memorize the other person's lines? No, but I know their lines. Yeah, I mean we have to. Yeah, we have to know. but no, I don't memorize their lines, but I know, I know the cue. I know the, you know, but it's also tough when someone doesn't know their lines because then that messes with me and my performance.

Yeah. And have you dealt with that? What do you do? They know I could tell you look at them like, oh, this is. Yeah, you just. Do you feel embarrassed for them? I do. I feel bad for them.

I do. Because, you know, you don't know what the circumstances. are that makes them not be able to perform you know they like like you said like stage fright nerves it gets into your head and then you choke so yeah i i do feel bad for them do you get star struck all the time with jacky you were star stark yeah you are yeah did you ever ask for an autograph no you don't ask for autographs well i did ask an autograph for his uh book that he you know his autobiography really yeah i did that but now and but now but now i I might try to find a couple of dolls for him to sign it.

Action figures? Yeah. Because you're going to see him again? Yeah. In New York. Yeah. Up here. You should get one of his old movie posters from when we first started and have him sign it.

That would be so cool. Have an original jacket. I mean, look at my room. I know. I'm looking at Edward Cisorhands. I know. Hoosiers, Gene Hackman. This is cool.

And here's the thing. Most likely, you won't work with, like, you don't feel embarrassed. People will say, well, I couldn't ask for an autograph. I don't yeah I do I don't give a shit right but it's so cool yeah it's kind of fun I know I was looking at all your stuff here but you don't get you don't get anxiety anymore do you get anxiety um I I actually get more anxious now because of hormonal changes called the F word of for women the F word what's that well it's really the M word but for me it's yeah oh or I could say the other the MFer of of the word yeah yeah but it's real it's real menopause and it's real it sucks

like I have I didn't go through it with my pregnancies you know I don't go through it at my time of the month shit it is it it it made me understand when people have anxiety like attacks I never had that and all of a sudden your body's doing something that you're not do you have no control over it's insane that sucks and that's my reward that's women's reward after like perpetuating the race you know perpetuating the human race yeah like keeping this human race going yeah that's our reward is there anything is there is there what it is so ridiculous is there anything that helps it no there's not like a pill you could take that's or or meditation or something that can help you?

Not really. No, not really. I've tried quite a few things. And do they say this will subside? Yeah. When? Uh-huh. When?

How long has it been going on? Long enough. We're yelling at each other. How long? What? A long time. When will it end? I don't know.

It sucks. Oh. It's the way. I don't complain about a lot of things, but this I do because I think it's just so unfair. It is. I'm sorry. It is so unfair. I'm forewarned all young women about it now because nobody ever talked about it. No. Before. You know, I think it's becoming more of a topic of conversation. Yeah. I hear it more. Yes. I hear it more. And it's not something men can understand, but they need to understand it. Yeah. They need to understand it. Yeah. Empathize. Because it's real.

You don't have to go through this. This is real. They're going, yeah, I, I totally get it. Yeah. Hot flashes? Like, let me just stick you in an oven, like every, you know, hour and see how you feel. It's so ridiculous. I don't really like that.

I don't have it anymore. I don't have hot flashes anymore. Thank God. Yeah. I haven't seen one the day. No. No, you look pretty good. Thank you.

When do you think your career took off? What was that one thing? Was it Joy Luck Club? That was the big kind of, like, boom. Or when did you feel like, I made it? I've made it. I don't, I still don't think you've made it. No.

You've done all this work. You have a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. That was the craziest. Walk me through that. Okay, you want to hear anxiety? This was on my full, like, pre-menopausal, like madness. I was literally crying, crying. I'm telling you, I was bawling my eyes out a week before the star ceremony because it was so, it's like trying to plan a wedding, but only for your 30 or 40 favorite people in the world that gets invited to the seating area.

Did your mom go? Oh, no, I didn't invite my mom. She's not my most favorite person in the world. I don't want her to be like, oh. You like this? Yeah, you like this? Why? You want people to step on you?

You like people walking on you? Yes, I invited my mom. Right, of course. Dumb question. Actually, that was the only moment when I saw her, like, really crying, crying. Like, she understood the star. Isn't that crazy? The Hollywood star.

Did she cry? She cried. My brother cried. My older brother cried. I couldn't believe it. It was insane. That's awesome. But a week before that, I was bawling my eyes out, and Eric came over to me, and he's like,

honey, what's wrong? I said, I don't want this star. I don't want it. Why are they giving me a star? Really? Yes. I was having imposter syndrome. I was anxiety ridden.

I was having that panic attack. I don't like all that, like, attention on me. You don't. No. No. I'm, I despise it. Don't look at me. That's why I play other characters.

Yeah. So I could not have to, you know, worry about. But you were. a nervous mess. I was a nervous mess and Eric just went, honey, honey, honey. Honey, this is supposed to be a happy thing. That's amazing. That's amazing. And I bet if it was, we were shooting a comedy, you go like this, you go, oh. And then you go do it. But it really is. It's a happy It was supposed to be a happy thing. Yeah, but at that moment, like, again, probably like stage fright the whole thing before it happens. But when it was finally happening and I was surrounded by my beautiful Joy La Club sisters, you know, Tamlin, Lauren, and Roz, they were so gracious to be there to help celebrate it with me. Because I do feel Joy La Club was sort of my citizenship into Hollywood. Yeah. If you look back, what is, it's too hard to say, but like your favorite roles, I mean, Mandalorian has to be one of them, right? Fenne, yeah, I mean, come on.

That's that you landed the role of a lifetime. That was it. Yeah. Shoot me now. By the way, is there anything going on in the Star Wars universe that you might be returning to? And if there is, I can't say anything about it. Right. So why do you ask?

I don't know. I don't know. How many auditions did it take to land the lead voice in Milan? Oh, I don't know. I don't remember. it wasn't just one reading right i feel like it just was did you have any idea would be that big no when did you realize holy shit when they invited me to the premiere did you cry did you love it um no it's so weird i always feel like i i live an out-of-body experience it's weird yeah i'll look back on

old pictures of myself. And I'd be like, oh, I was there. Is that kind of psychotic? I do that, too. I do that. It's a weird thing, isn't it? Why do we do that? Why can't we just, like, be in the moment? Yeah, why can't we just be like that? If we were our young 10-year-old selves, we'd be like, like, speaking of athletes, right? They remember every play, every moment. Like, are they coached to remember? Because if you were to ask me, like you just did about the, I'd be like, How many auditions? Maybe two at the most, maybe? Wow.

Yeah. I remember those auditions where I had to really fight for something. Yeah. Or it took like three meetings. I had to fight for. You did. Yeah. How many meetings on that?

I want to say I've run, I think two. Two. Well, that's not that many. I auditioned in New York and then they asked me back when I was in L.A. and then they asked me back again like to have a conversation and that's when I had to sell myself wow yeah what it was it like working with Charlie Sheen oh charlie you loved him I did you had fun I do and that's a guy who always knows his lines always nothing and such a gentleman on set but you never had any issues with him nothing never nothing always gracious considerate um to

Everyone, not just that's what I hear. The crew, everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Just there was some darkness going on in his personal life, but never in his professional life. No, no. Yeah. I really enjoyed working with him.

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What about William Shatner? I've never worked with you. You've never, but you've met him a million times. Yeah, Bill. Is he nice to you? It was so weird to call. Captain Kirk Bill. Bill.

He just sits there and reads at these conventions. He doesn't know. He loves to be on his phone, like a little kid. And he's 96? I think so. Isn't that crazy? And he still goes to these conventions. He went to, he went to space.

He went to space. He is like living every moment of his life. Yeah. He wants to be around the fans. He wants to be around people who love him. He wants to be active. Yeah. And they say the second you stop being active.

is when you it all goes downhill well that that that's like um another actress from joy luck club uh Lisa Lou nine eight years old finally got her star and we were you know I was there to help celebrate with her and her family and 98 years old and the first thing she says to me me hey thank you for coming and I'm like Lisa I'm so honored to be here I'm so happy for you uh When we're working, what, call me, 98 years old. Still wants to work. 98. That's crazy.

I don't want to work now. I want to win lotto and just retire. Do you play scratch off lottery tickets? Sometimes. I do. I love it. I love it too. People think it's so weird.

And then when the mega millions or whatever it is that go, go over like a 900 million or a billion. Because that's, that's, fuck you money. Yeah. You know, that's, that's. the kind of money you go, I'll make my own movie. I'll start a charity. I'll, I don't need anybody. I don't need anybody's. I'll do what I want. Yeah. And everybody's taking care of that I love. Yeah. That's, that's cool. That's when we become Jackie Chan and we can like just share it with the world, right? Isn't that a wonderful thing? That's a wonderful thing. Yes. I wish more people

with billions of dollars would think that way because they've won the lottery already. Seriously. I mean, you know. Do they need? 10 yachts, I don't think so. No, they just need a low interest rate. You received a Carnegie Mellon University Alumni Achievement Award in 2023. Yes, I did. You had to give a speech? Yes.

Were you nervous? Yes. What did you say to these students? Was it a long speech? Was it just to the point? You know, I think one of the things that I learned at school that I don't think I appreciate it as much. is the friendship that you come away with because a lot of my classmates didn't end up

continuing with acting or being in the entertainment field but we're still you know really close and good friends and I think that that's as important in life as your acting career because if you don't have that yeah I mean all we have are memories well you need are a few close friends that really actually give a shit about you don't care whether you're really successful or you bomb or you do something stupid or you look like an asshole they're with you they're not just there because oh there's a party right you know right party's over yeah and then you're in your room alone yeah yeah yeah are you talking about me yeah that's usually what happens no you have three dogs yeah yeah yeah right yeah what's that's Ryan what's next I mean I you also you also

voice, the Milan voice and Disney's Magic Kingdoms, Speedsters, Dreamlight Valley, all these. You get paid for all that. Yeah. It's great. It's great. And you just did that. I know. They, they, what was it?

What was it the game that, with Finnic and, and then Darth Vader shows up in this game, um, Fortnite. Fortnite. Fortnight. And Darth Vader says my character's name, Phenic Shand. I was like, whoa. You loved it. They AI, James Earl Jones's voice. I'm like, there is never in a million years that I would imagine Darth Vader saying.

How cool is that? Calling my Star Wars character's name. That should be your voicemail. Oh, yes. Phoenix show. Fine. That would be dope. It was just, yeah.

Would you ever, you like doing horror movies? Have you done a horror movie? I would love to do. I did one, I think, prom night. Prom night, yeah, not too many years ago. It was like 10 years ago? Yeah. Yeah.

But you would do a horror movie? Uh-huh. I think I was in the process of possibly working on one. I would love to do a horror film. I love horror. Oh, you know what I did do? Remember Quibi? Yep.

Back in the day when it was the thing? Yep. What happened? I don't know. But I did an episode of Quibi, like this horror genre thing. Right. And I had an axe and I had to like, and I got all bloody. And you loved it?

It was so. fun but i lost my voice because i had to scream so much i gotta keep you in mind for a horror movie i wrote two hard movies i'm trying to make right now oh but they're but they're it's all a bunch of 20 year olds in one yeah yeah can you play 20 you probably could no you'd have to AI me i don't know it was pretty damn young who would you love to work with that you haven't that you really admire who have you always dreamed of working with oh so many so many actually who comes to mind the first person you already thought of the person like well you know I was so into Sherlock and Benedict Cumberbatch he's so good holy crap he was so amazing in that so

he would be someone do you remember when he did that movie it was called the Enigma Code yes where he played Alan Goring during Turing Alan Turing Alan Turing What a movie And when I realized it was a true story I cried What they did to him What they did to him What an amazing actor

He yes Something like that Benedict Cumberbatch You'd love to work with Benedict Cumberbatch Yeah Hmm What are his fans called Cumbers

No Cumbers Comes The Cumberbatches I don't know what would be called Yeah, they had a name for him I don't know All right, this is called

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Jessica be What's a small goal you're working on Just for your own well-being Learning The piano Really? Yeah. Can you play a little?

I do. I used to take lessons when I was younger. Now I want to be proficient at it. Is it peaceful? Mm-hmm. It's addicting. That's why you do it, so it takes your mind off everything but what you're doing. Yeah, but it's also physical, you know?

It's like, it's really, I like, yeah. What do you play, like, what kind of? Some of my favorite, it's not music. I love doing the exercises. Is that like the lamest thing in the world? Just the exercise. I love, like, when I, like, get the scales, like, going forward and backwards and this way and that way, and then I get these, like, crazy, like, cord exercises. And then if I get it, if I get it just right, if I get it just, like, ah, it feels so good.

Raj, tell me about the best gift you were able to give to someone else. Life, my kids. It's a good answer. Thank you. That's a solid answer. T-Pau-T-Pat-2? What was your favorite thing about shooting street-fire fighter? What were you trying to ask me before that?

That's his name. T-Paw-12. T-Paw-12. That's his handle. Oh. He asks, what was your favorite thing about shooting Street Fighter? I got to train a lot, morning, afternoon, night before the film and it was rigorous but I don't know what it was about that I just loved it

were you in the best shape of your life best shape of my life yeah and I got to do it with the actors and I felt like that was a bonding experience um and then I got engaged while I was shooting that because I was away from Eric for several several weeks and so he flew out to Australia on the Gold Coast and surprised me where did he ask you to marry him where were you we were actually he was going to do it in a special like by the beach or something because our first date was on the beach but um because i had already arranged like flower petals you know so you knew it was going to happen no no no because i'd missed him too so i was doing a whole romantic thing and candlelight so he asked me then but he didn't fully ask me he put it on a necklace and proposed and said look i i know

i'm springing this on you so just i want you to have time to think about it did you take the time no no i said let's do it yeah yeah i mean we moved in together like a month after knowing you made sweet lerve no and then we went to the beach and then you did it on the beach yes did you no no no we went there to like have the official engagement yeah the beach is never comfortable to do it it's sand and stuff yeah no lian has how has been being a parent changed you for the better um it's made me wiser, more patient, and I don't know. It's just everything. I think everything makes you better about everything. Now, now I have like two great friends, you know, for like talking about

your circle of friends. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, I can't relate. No, my parents are my best friends. Right? No, they're not. So isn't it cool? They're not. Yeah. I, I succeeded in not having generational trauma. Yes. Right? We don't repeat what transpired before. Not that my mom, my mom's the best mom in the world. Your dad.

My real dad, not so much. Yeah, but my stepfather was okay. Yeah. Yeah. Karate Kid Legends, Ralph Machia, Jackie Chan, I mean, not when. I'm so happy for you. Is there anything else you want that's coming out?

Anything else that you're doing that you want to mention? You're always doing a ton of stuff. And where can people follow you? Oh, I just started TikTok. I don't know. Oh, my God. When underscore Mingna. I don't know what I'm going to.

W-E-N- underscore Ming-na. And then, of course, you know, you can follow me on Instagram, which is the opposite. It's like Mingna underscore when. Right. And Twitter. Yeah. Because in Chinese, the surname comes first. Right.

So. What's your sign? What kind of sign? You know, astrological. Oh, astrological. I'm like, peace, this. that is definitely one of them yeah that's love yeah that's love if you get this me now loves you yes um uh i'm a scorpio you're a borderline sagittarius scorpia what your husband he is aquarius

yeah what are you i'm a cancer mm-hmm what are you ryan aries wow he's such an aries too really yeah you are you're such an aries well you know you're very laid back you're very laid back you don't feel like you don't you go with the flow for the most part you're not you're not a pain in the ass yeah so what's a cancer then pain in the ass probably a little bit or just talk out of your ass i'm a real i'm a giver i'm a giver i'm very sensitive oh um about you know uh but that's great i think being cancer is cool yeah that's super cool no i mean those are great qualities. Yeah. This has been awesome. I love seeing you. I get to see you infrequently. It's either at a con or I get you on the podcast. So every couple of years, I just kind of say, hey, let's do this.

I know. You're wonderful. And everybody should follow you and keep on loving you. I don't normally say yes to. I know. I was, I think I was one of your first podcasts. Yeah. Yeah. And then Katie. And then Katie. They went for Katie. How was that? It was fun. It was fun. She's cool. No, I'm very impressed with how elaborate, you know, podcasts have become. Yeah. Yeah. We try to do a It's like a real production. It is. Yeah. Well, thanks for being here.

Yeah. I'm glad I'm in your home. Yeah, me too. With all your parents. Makes me happy. And what makes you happy makes you fart? Yes. Oh, and this is for you, for your dog.

It's my product, Rosie's puppy, fresh breath for your dog. Oh. Yeah. You just put a cap full in your dog's water. It's odorless, tasteless, so they don't know the difference in your dog's breath will be better. Okay. But, you know, your dog's 14 now, so I don't think you care about it. through the week.

I think he's going to live. Yeah. I'm praying. I don't want him to suffer. No, exactly. I don't want him to suffer. When it's time, it's time. But if he suffers, I mean, if he suffers.

But if he passes on, he will do it with fresh breath. We will do it with fresh breath. That is amazing. On that note, I love you. Thank you. I love you, too. With MX Platinum, access to exclusive of Amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot track side.

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So my heart goes out to you and your family and everyone's thinking about you. And I know how hard that is to lose an animal. I lost my herb years ago and I still thinking about them all the time and just, just know you were the best mom. Charlie, no. All right. That being said, if you want to join Patreon, support the show, patreon.com slash inside of you and give back to the show. I would really appreciate it. It helps the small little podcast that we do and hopefully you're loving it.

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