Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Nicky Whelan

Episode Date: February 11, 2020

Nicky Whelan (Hallpass, Trauma Center) joins us this week to talk about her outlook on Hollywood and its relationship with social media and privacy as a whole. Nicky opens up and discusses her experiences suffering from vertigo and panic attacks, plus her methods for managing these today. We get into the idea of not dwelling on things during slumps, her mindset going through divorce, and her Plan B back home in Australia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Happy Valentine's Week, Ryan. Ooh. Happy Valentine's week, yeah. Thanks. You have a girlfriend. I do. I don't. I have to plan something.

You do? I mean, that's on me every year, isn't it? I guess so. You're free of that. Why can't the female be up to that, up to that, do that? Well, it's, you know, it's nice. It's nice to, you know, to plan stuff. But happy Valentine's to all you guys.

I hope everybody out there has a nice evening, you know, has love. All you need is love. All we need in this world is love. Sorry, I was saying that through a belch. I couldn't quite get the belchia. So I was like this, this one where you think, oh, wait, it's just like the guy in the end of Truman. I thought you're showing back tears, but no, it was a...

No, it's not like the guy from Truman's, I'm bleeding. I'm dying. It's been a great couple of weeks. I feel like there's more listeners. You know, people are excited about the podcast. You know, I'm getting more and more excited about it. about the podcast. I think, you know, we're closer to getting ready for video. We're getting close, man. It's coming along. Yeah, it is. And you've got your work cut out. I do for a couple

of guests. I do. It's going to be some editing. It'll be worth it. Yes, it's going to be worth it. Once we get in the groove, it's going to be a lot easier. So that's coming up. Videos coming up. We're excited about that. Thank you for all my patrons out there on Patreon. If you haven't come out there if you, you know, I don't know if you know what it is, but check it out, extra footage, Q&A's with me, you get to ask guest questions, uh, all sorts of fun stuff if you go to Patreon, but thank you all my patrons for their, um, amazing support. I really mean that. And thank you to my listeners, just all you guys out there. Thank you for listening. Uh, it's been a crazy, crazy week. I, uh, I'm getting a colonoscopy, Ryan. So I'm at that age

where I have to get a colonoscopy. It was 50 and then they moved it down to 45 and I'm 47. So, You know, Jess is trying to tell me, because she had one, my assistant, Jess, she's like, you're going to, you're going to do, you know, you're going to, I'm going to shit. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, you're going to, I mean, yeah, of course. I know the deal. She goes, no, you only drink liquids for the whole day, which is going to be tough for me, you know. And then you just, you evacuate things. Yeah. So, but, you know, I don't mind being put to sleep, but she goes, I know, but they put a lot of needles in you because they can't get a vein because you're so dehydrated and or whatever. You're a guess, I don't know. fuck i'm not looking forward to it and one of my right nuts hurt hurts i think i did it in hockey or something so hopefully i'll be okay thanks for asking ryan did you wear a cup i did but you know it's a little tight maybe i grew out of it are you wearing your like cup from high school i mean what i no um no everyone knows that you stop growing but your balls keep growing is that what happens i i don't know old guys their balls are down to their knees so maybe that's what happens your balls just keep sagging like Bob sag it down there I don't know I really don't know

uh so anyway we've got a great show for you this is believe it or not this is the hundredth episode so welcome to the hundredth episode congratulations Ryan you've been on probably I don't know 10 of them or more more than that yeah yeah okay but uh congratulations to you though thank you congratulations to everybody for uh we're still around we're hanging in there we're the uh little caboose that could and with your help we'll continue that um thank you to all the guests who've come on the show and you know believe to me it's hard you know in the beginning especially to come on a podcast going oh nobody knows this show and so i try to bring you guys great guests and at least guests that will open up and and you'll find interesting and you know it gets to the point ryan

where i'm like well hopefully get to a certain point where people are just like you know i don't care who rosy interviews i know he'll ask some fun questions and we might learn something that's going to be fun even if i don't know this person that's what you aspire to yeah you don't want you know you're like oh well he doesn't have another guy from era so i'm not listening f you rose and The thing is, if you like an interview, then you support, you keep supporting. You know, I can't, I can't give you everything you love, but I could try, you know. I'm going to be in Richmond, Richmond, Virginia on February 28th, 29th. We're doing Smallville Nights with Tom, so that's going to be fun.

Also doing a stage it, I believe, look online, but Jason Manns and I are going to do a stage at when I'm in Richmond. So we'll do a live show online. You can check that out. And that's pretty much. shit you know i'm on cameo all that bull crap but uh hey let's talk about our guest she's uh she's been in a lot of stuff she has actually worked she was in stuff like hall pass and um you know her new movie with bruce willis trauma center i saw a trailer for it and it looked pretty freaking intense she's been around man she's been around the block she's she works and she's got a

good attitude i learned a lot from her i didn't think i wouldn't i might say that in the interview i mean look her up she's been in a ton and i thank her for opening up so much and let's just get into it. Let's get inside of Nicky Wayland. It's my point of you you're listening to inside of you

with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. When did you come to the States? About 14 years ago. 14 years ago. So you were four? Thank you.

close do you do you like the states it's okay yeah because i get that from you not in a not in an arrogant kind of uh you know australia's better nationalistic sort of feeling it's more like a that's my home yeah do you know what it's no you're right the thing is i don't want to live back in australia at all i've no desire to go home why it's one of the few places that i would live you i've been to australia four times i'm going again in in june and i've been and by the way If you want to say it right now, if you're sitting at home and you want to learn an Australian accent, here's what you do. There's a couple of cities that if you just say it, you'll automatically get, like, for instance, Melbourne. Melbourne, Adelaide, Adelaide, Brisbane, Perth, Sydney.

Impressed. It's, it's... This is good. Yeah, but that's about all I can do. It's really bloody hard to do in an Australian accent. That was very impressive. So just say Melbourne. You say Melbourne.

Melbourne. Melbourne. Yeah. Like Americans say Melbourne Yeah, it's not right Don't say Melbourne Even though it's spelled like that No

Ryan say Adelaide Adelaide Oh that's good too Ryan I can do stuff Perth Perth Oh my mom's English Wasn't it

My mom's English So I think I do it A little English Yeah maybe so But it was a good start Do you hate when Americans do Australian accent Well it's just really hard to hear

Because it's like very Wrong And it comes out wrong Like it's really easy For us to do your accent because most of our TV growing up was American. But I could always tell when someone, they slip, you guys slip in and out.

Some English, what, yours is that good? No, one's terrible. Oh, it's terrible because I know some people, you'll be watching a movie. And there's an actress, I won't say her name. I just hear these things sometimes. She's trying to a southern accent. She's doing it real southern like,

and I'm like, I don't know, it's rough. Yeah, it's difficult. I think people only notice if you're from that region. Everyone else will go like, oh, man, she's Southern or, oh man, she's Australian, what you are. I try not to, it's so weird doing another accent in a movie because you just don't feel authentic at all.

So you have to get so used to it. It just feels weird. I still find it weird. Well, trauma center. That's out. That's out now. Video in demand or whatever the, what do they call it? The theaters.

The theaters for two weeks and then it's on demand now as well. Bruce Willis, Tito Ortiz. Had to do an American accent and that. See, you did, huh? Because that's what I was wondering. I was like, when I scream and cry. I could see it because, you know, I watched, I didn't get a chance to watch the movie. Forgive me, only because my grandpa passed away.

Yes, so that's a good excuse. I'm going to use, thank Irv. I love you up there. Thank you for that one. Because otherwise, I'd be an asshole. But, by the way, it seems like a very intense role. It's very intense. I mean, you, it's just you.

It's you in this hospital. Bruce Willis. Seems like the good guy in it. These some bad cops here. It's not that. but it looks pretty intense. And a lot of the screaming and yelling, which all I do,

the whole I can't tie movie is that kept coming out Australian because when I'm genuinely bawling my eyes out and crying, I fall back into me and then I'm like, oh, and I'm like, that was astray. I'm bawling my eyes out, and I'm saying, we need to do it again. Like, because you do, you just slip,

you're trying to be as real as possible. I never thought about that. Think about that. Think about when you're being so sincere and then do it in an accent. It's just weird. Could you imagine if I was doing like an English accent, I'm going to probably do it on bad,

But it was just like, you know, in the movie, I was like, you know, when I'm from, like, let's say I'm from England and I'm talking like this, like Gary Oldman. And then all of a sudden in this scene, I have to, I don't know, I'm tired of this, I can't do it. It's hard. It's like, wait, now I'm crying and it doesn't sound real because I've never cried like that. Yes. Do you have to practice? I don't know. I don't know what you do.

You just don't set. You just ask people to be patient with you until it comes out right. Being an actor's hard, isn't it? Just weird. Everybody out there's like, I'd rather be a fucking actor. Shut up, Rosenbaum. Tired of it. Mm-mm.

You, I almost said you've been around. I didn't mean like that. But, look, I say the wrong things a lot of times. First of all, we met doing Kevin and Johnny Farley's podcast at the Olympic Improv. Remember you were a guest? Yeah, you don't remember. But I do. I remember you.

I just remember now. By the way, can we swear on this. I'm so sorry. I just let it drop. Yeah, you can swear. Yeah, I'm so sorry. Yeah, we did. I'd forgotten about that.

I'm usually forgotten. No, you're not at all because I see you on Twitter. Although, you're not for a Twitter person. Instagram. You know what? I think you have to in this day and age. I fought it for so long. And then I'm like, you know, I got two podcasts and I got things going on. And you just have to make people aware. If you don't, no one's going to come see your band. Not that they do. But although we played at the Roxy, and it was a good crowd. And they're shutting down the thing next door to it. Remember it's the rainbow bar? I just ate there. So they're saving it. They're keeping it. Remember they're

going to shut it down? I nearly had a meltdown, even though I've only eaten there once in my life. That was the first time I ate there, and I might have had diarrhea, but I'm not sure. The diarrhea could have been from anything. I don't want them to rip apart sunset. So let me ask you, you've been around a long time with your career. You've been acting. I look at your credits, and I'm like, you've done, I mean, I remember Hall Pass with the Fairley brothers.

And, I mean, you were on a show. How young were you when you did that show in Australia? 24, 25. And you were kind of a star there? Are you still a star there? Like a bigger star there than here? No, I don't know what. When you sort of say star in Australia, it's just like people, because neighbors is

so big there that everybody knows it so people will know you but no one it's not like a star no one it looks at you like you're a star like Australians are like rough around the edges like in American Hollywood it's like oh my god but there it's like gives a shit so what you did novers anyway like there's a very different like sort of vibe towards you and no one really cares so I don't feel like a star there which is my family that's why you like Australian men I but I do like them but I'm not dating well I'm just saying yeah your grandfather was a football player. When you say football, you whip that out. Because I know stuff. When your grandpa was a football player, what does that mean? Because if you said in America, he was a football

player, I'd say, did he play for the Broncos? Oh, yeah. So he played for a huge team. Well, what is football, first of all? Australian rules, football. No, it's Australian rules. So it's only an Australian football sport. So it's very different to soccer, rugby, and American football is completely different. But soccer is called football in England. It is. But in Australia, football's football but different kind of football? What the fuck is going on? Australian rules football. And then you have soccer and then you have rugby. Three different sports. Australian rules is Australian sport and it's huge. It's like the second biggest sport in Australia. And my granddad played for a big team. It's like American football. Who he played for? He played for Collingwood.

They're called. So he was a name? Is he a star? People remember him. What was his name? Something Waylon. Marcus Wheelan. Marcus. Say it again. Marcus Whalen. He won this medal called the brown loaf, which is very, very, very good. The brown loaf? Brown low. I won the award Brown Loaf. I did that. Brown Loaf. Well, it's that's Southern Indiana sometimes it comes up. But go ahead. So did you know him? No, I never met him. He was my dad's dad. He died before I came into the world. But it's like a whole thing in our family. And it's kind of cool because Australian rules football is awesome. I used to do TV hosting years ago. I used to interview a lot of them. And it's just a good thing to be in the mix with. It's a lot of love around that sport in Australia. Did you feel like, I mean, you're from Australia, so we have, there's certain things that you think of. When I think of people in England, I think, you know, they probably are bigger drinkers than we are.

I don't know if that's true. Yeah. Ryan, is that true? Yeah. It is. It's a public culture, yeah. Is that Australia, too? I mean.

Australians can drink. They can drink. They can absolutely. Was there drinking in your family? Yeah, like everybody can drink and does drink. I mean, as they've got older, my dad still drinks. I mean, my dad's nearly 80 and he's just, he's, you've never met anyone like you. He's still pounding it?

he used to smoke a pack cigarettes a day for 50 years he's quit now because he's nearly died about eight times from it but he still drinks hardcore he's so old school he's old school Aussie he's got the tattoos little boxer does he have no patience all that stuff he's old school dude how does he talk like if he said something let's say he was like get me the newspaper Nikki and a beer what would he say uh uh well actually well like for instance if i get dressed up I'm at home and I'm going out for dinner walk through, he goes, you're right, are you? Like, that's, like, I'll dress up and I'll say, he goes, you right, are you? That's even, by the ways, going, by the ways, going, by you why are you dressed up looking like that, going out the house? It's like, what do you think you are you are you? That's how he talks. I like that phrase, you're right, are you right, are you right? Did you get me on you? Like, I'll be on the paper, the front cover of a big paper in Australia for a sporting event. You're right on you? Oh, you're right? You think you're right, are you? And I'm like, thanks. Does that mean, like, are you sure you're

sane? Are you going out like that? What are you doing? It's just like, it's his way of coping with whatever I'm doing. Were you difficult as a child and were they difficult parents? They were strict parents, but my parents, I'm so like a good family. I'm really lucky, but they were strict and my dad's old school, but I had three older brothers and an older sister and I was the youngest and I was so badly behaved. I was really naughty. What did you do?

Just shitty at school, just like a not a good student, like bounced around to all different schools, had problems. What kind of problems? Just like a lot of fighting, like, fist fighting? Yeah, like girls were. A fighter? Yeah, my dad's a fighter too. Like, girls were mean to me at school. I know my dad was just a fight. Because why? Because you were pretty or a pretty girl? Just pretty girl, all that sort of stuff. So let me, let me, give me an example. You're in school. It's 19, whatever it is. 12. 1912, just a few years before the start of the world war. Girls were mean. Did you ever punch a girl in the face? A girl got me in a headlock once on the last day of year nine. Someone had said to me early in the morning, this girl's going to get you at lunchtime, and she was a beefcake.

Like, she was, like, hardcore. And I was scared. And she was going to, they said, she's going to crack an egg on your head at lunchtime. And I was like, this is awful. Crack an egg on your head. Somebody warned you that this girl was going to crack an egg on your head. Am I getting this right? Yeah, this is true.

And I was so scared. And I was like, my dad would be like, you have to defend yourself. You have to fight for this. So I went looking for a weapon because, like, I have to, this woman is bigger. than me, and she has big friends. They were all like the basketball girls, and I was just like, little pee-ling. If she's getting an egg, are you getting a loaf of bread? What do you, what, are we staying in the food groups?

Are we going something more? I needed a weapon. What was the weapon? I went through the garden. A spatula. And I found those cane sticks that hold up plants. You know when you're holding up a new tree as it's growing and you get a cane stick? Bracing it.

I ripped that out of the soil and I carried it around. By the way, no one said anything. Why are you carrying a cane stick this day? Anyway, came to lunch. time and the girls come around the corner and everyone gathered in this like area common area it was awful and she came over to me and she goes hey nicky and she got her friend who's like six foot some basketball and hands are like this egg and she just grabs me and gets me in a headlock I'm like here we go it's happening and I go down and she just like gets the egg and rubs it into

my head and then like but you had the egg beat her and then I went my turn and I just like whacked her with this stick where she went down on Where did she hit her? On her back. He hit her with a stick. And she went down. And she was like, and I said, yeah.

Well, she was in pain. And then they went, I hear this, Nikki Wheel into the front office, please. I was like, really? This is not my fault. I did not start. This is pure defense. Well, if I was the principal,

like, well, Nikki, it looks like, you know, she might have put an egg in your head, but unfortunately, beat her with a stick, and that's a crime. I got so much trouble. They tried to expel me and suspend me, and it was a whole thing.

But my dad, I was so scared when I got home. Right on you. I was going to be grounded. They ring the sky. I was upstairs in my bedroom and I was like, and my dad goes, I hear him answer the phone. And then I hear him go, okay. I'm like, this is it. Grounded for life, expelled.

I come downstairs and he looks at me and I'm standing in the kitchen. I'm shaking. I'm so scared because I like, it was pretty hardcore what happened. And he said to me, if anyone ever touches you, I give you permission to defend yourself. Don't worry about it. I was like, oh. You immediately, you had so much more love for your father at that moment. It's like, yes, I'm allowed to find.

Are you close with your family? Do you tell them about you, do you call them crying about your personal problems? My mom and my sister are super close to know absolutely everything. Really? Yeah. I'm really lucky because a lot of people come to L.A. And escaping their family and trauma, I'm not. My plan B doesn't suck.

My plan B is go home and live with my awesome family on the B. That's always a plan B, but you've never done it. Even when times get tough, do you ever just say, I'm leaving? I'm going, you've always stuck around. Yeah, and I think that, and you know this, you can't just because you don't work for a couple months, give up. Oh my God, I love not working for a couple months. So do I.

I get to vacuum and go to bed, bath, and beyond and do delicious activities. Are you someone that when they don't work, they get a little depressed and they don't, you don't. You don't worry about the next job. You don't think, you know, because I tend, you know, Jess says, you know, you You know, you have an addiction to shopping. You do? But I don't.

Here's the thing. As I look around your house. I want you to tell me, and maybe my listeners can write in, and you, I don't go, I don't buy lavish shit. I don't go out, I have a van out there that's 17 years old. I have a truck that's eight years old, a pickup truck. I like your truck. Thank you.

I get Star Wars toys that cost, you know, maybe 20 bucks here, 50 bucks here, something at a convention. You see, I have this. I don't believe you. Some of this Star Wars stuff is worth an absolute. But I've had that stuff a long time. But I don't like... I'm looking at a Princess Leia puppet up there?

How much is that? Dude, $60. Really? Yeah, like, so what I'm saying is maybe I buy stuff, but here's, I have a rule. If I buy a pair of sneakers, I give two away to charity or to, or to what, yeah, always. You have a little system. I have a system. Whenever I buy something, I get rid of something or I give to somebody.

That's good. Yeah, but do you think that's an addiction if I, like Etsy? Somebody fucking introduced me to Etsy. Have you been on Etsy? Oh, yes, I have. They make, I always dress up as one of the Jedi's for Star Wars and they make the, um, proper tentacles. I've been Ayla Secura and I was, um, Ola for a couple of them and Etsy make them professional ones out of the latex.

Nerd alert. I love it. I have, that's, they, uh, Friday the 13th, there's a, on the, the door had a sign made from Etsy. Oh, really? Yeah, Friday of 13th, it says Camp Crystal Lake. It's, you get so in the mix. Well, I just like cool things. I don't need expensive things.

I mean, I wear, like, I'm a t-shirt kind of chords, dude. Yeah, but your cords are good, really good quality, very nice. Like, I'm looking at everything here. I quit staring at my cords. I'm looking at your cords. They're good quality cords. All right, let me ask you this. Do your parents, do you ever, because you've been in relationships, you've been married?

I was married for a second, yeah. You were married for a second? Like five months. And he was a football player. Now, this football player, do you think, oh, grandpa was a football player. I want to impress subconsciously. I want to impress mom and dads. to date a football player?

No. Have you dated non-football players? That's the only football I've ever dated, and that was the first and last ever. It was so weird, like left of center. And I didn't think of him as a footballer because he had retired when I met him. So I didn't think he wasn't like playing football or anything. So we never did any football stuff. He watched football, but I was like, I'm not.

Oh, wow. I mean, look, it's obviously a stupid question, but it's hard getting divorced. Like, what's the hardest part about getting divorced other than, to me, isn't it just like dealing with the rest of the world? not so much unless you're like really help you know what to be honest with you and it's funny when you go through breakups and they're public people get really really screwed up about what other people are going to think and i swear to god maybe this is i have other issues and other things that bother me but that's the last thing i could give a shit about is what other people think and what they're

going to write and who said what and said i get that from you i just don't care sorry my language but like that wasn't the thing that bothered me and to be honest with you in my divorce i this is the thing, if I had kids or an owned property with him, I can understand how things can get complicated. But you know when you fall out of love and it's over and you never want to see that person again and then you would have to deal with years of going to court and fight for kids, that's what makes it so traumatizing is you can't leave. Getting divorced is difficult. And I was like, this is the most, I remember looking into going, how do, how do you get divorced? Like, you have to look at it online or you talk to. You looked online to see how to get

divorced? Yeah, I was like, how do you, like, how do people get divorced? Like, I don't want to get a lawyer. I don't want to get a mediator. I don't want anything from him. I'm sure it doesn't want anything from me. Ryan, look up. How do you get divorced? There's all these places that like you need a lawyer, you need a mediator. And I was like, but I don't want anything. And he didn't want anything. Well, if you don't want anything, that makes it easier. But when I think when people are like, oh, you know what, I want half. I've been, I think it's fair if like you worked from the ground up from the beginning of someone's success. Let's say, let's say he was making a lot of money. Yeah. And it started with you together. So then there's like, hey,

We built an empire or we built or we have $50,000 or $10,000. Whatever it is, I think that you're entitled to get half. But when it comes to before you met, there was money and things like that, I guess that's all about pre-muffs and stuff. There was nothing about any of that. Like, we talked about a pre-nup and I was like, oh, anything from me. Like, I just, there was never that mentality. Do you ever want to see him again?

I'd run into him a couple times to say good-day. Like, there's no sort of, like, it was painful. It's messy. It's weird. It's shitty. But it's also like, we were done. We were done. And we signed a piece of power.

and we walked out of the office because we didn't go to a lawyer or anything. We just were like signed paperwork and we walked out and he walked to his Aston Martin and I walked to my Nissen. Nah. He let me drive it all together. He went that way and I went to my little Nissen and he goes, see ya. And then we just drove off. And there was no like, that's my fork.

Again, there was none of, no, I just because I was done and he was done and then there's no, I don't need anything from you. Like, I don't want any. We both work. We both make money. It's good. So in my case, I must say I had an easy divorce, but that's, I see people go through traumatic shit.

And, you know, a few things were written for the three people that know who we are. But like, and again, I just give a shit. Like, no. I don't know. There's other things that upset me. There's other things that upset you. What other things upset you? But there's so many other things.

There's so many unexpected things that happen. Lies. Lies hurt. Cheating hurts. Those are painful things. Have you ever been a cheater? Never cheated in my life. You've never cheated in your life.

Never chated in my life. I commend you. You know what? Knock on wood. Yeah. I mean, not knock on wood, but I haven't either. I was going to knock on wood, I hope I don't. No, I haven't either.

Yeah. That's one thing I can't do. So that's like when I am in a relationship, when I say, I love you, this is us. Not the NBC series, but like this is us. Yeah. Then that's it. I like to hear that for me. That's awesome.

Well, it's important. I've said that before. Ryan, are you that guy too? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mine, your yeah, was weird.

My yeah was weird. I'm sorry, I was... I hope not. He's dating my friend Amanda. I was just Googling how to get divorced, and now I'm asking, like... Yeah, forget that. Go ahead. I believe that. I have the blurb if you want it.

Is this a short blurb? Well, it's just for Cal... Yeah, there's a short one. Go ahead. Before you can file for divorce in California, at least one spouse must be a resident of the state for six months or 180 days. Once you filed for divorce and deliver the paperwork to your spouse, you must wait at least six months from the date your spouse received the papers before the

divorce can be finalized. Wait a minute. We got a piece of paper six months later. I was like with some friends and I just opened my mailbox and there's a little letter and it said, you are officially divorced. Not exactly like that, but that's what it is. And I go, oh, there we go. Did you celebrate?

To be honest with you, we did do some friends. And there was a sense of freedom to it and we all had smoothies. So we all just did like a little groove with our smoothies. And then we got on with a day. Like it's, I don't know. Like I'm making it sound so cavalier. No, but you is, like it's a hell. Look, I'm sure there's those moments where you're like, everybody, look, it wasn't a big deal.

And then you go home sometimes and you hear a song. Oh, he touched my shoulder during, must have been love. But it's a all rock set. She just passed away, Rock Set. What? The lead singer to Roxette died like three days ago. Oh, my God, am I breaking this to you? How did she do you?

She passed. I don't know how she passed, but it did. In fact, whenever someone passes, I mean a singer, I always get on my sonose or whatever, my Napster. I still have Napster. And I play their hip. while I shower. I love Roxette. I listen to them all the time.

Did she die? I think she died. Can you tell me how? She had that song. Yeah, Marie Fredrickson. Yep. died December 9 of this year. That was three days ago.

Of what? Does it say of what? No. She's saying the song. She's got the look. She's got the look. Remember the music video? Or bright eye boy.

And then she had, um, join the joy ride. The big love, um, dangerous. You know she's a little... Yeah, they had great hits. Look them up, guys. Give a little tear and glass of wine.

Damn, I'm going to have to sit with that after this. Deaf leopards alive still. I'm going to see them in concert again. One-night drummer? Yeah. Death leopard animal, greatest song they ever wrote and the music video at the circus. I'm more of a pyromani guy, photograph, rock of ages. Oaten, greet, and Glotton Glover.

God, I feel like we're from the same time. Well, probably they are. You're younger than I am now. I'm 38. How old are you? I'm 47. I'm sorry, what? Yeah.

Wait, is he like? Yeah, I like this area really good. Well, are you serious? I am 47. Shut up. I am. I thought you were like close to 40. All right, now people are going to think you're flirting.

Cut it out. Michael, I thought you were bloody 40. Look at you. Really? 40. Do you drink? Do you smoke? Do you party?

You know, I don't, I don't really, I mean, I'll have a casual drink or I'll smoke a little grass here and there. Did I say grass? I think I did. I don't, I'm off all pills. Your skin is so smooth. Well, it's not really. I've got a zit on my nose. And I had to put some Claricel touch up before today. That's true.

Yeah. I got this thing. I got to turn into a skit. I still get zits. You get zits? Yeah. Why do we get zits? Ryan, you get zits? Yeah. You do? Where do you get them? All over. Sometimes above your ass crack? Above the ass crack? Sure. I do that. And then you just take a luf. Those are easy to get away. Just lufut a little bit, boom, gone. I don't ever get them. I'm glad to hear that. I'm happy to hear that.

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You've been in the public for a long time. Do you get anxiety? Do you get, have you ever, do you know what anxiety is? Have you ever felt a panic attack or you've never experienced that? In my 20s, severe, hardcore vertigo, horrendous, horrendous anxiety attacks. What happens with vertigo? Sitting there talking to you right now and then all of a sudden I'm just like, I start spinning in the chair and I can't, everything starts spinning. I had brain scans. I was like there's something wrong with me. Horrendous as in my early 20s. I thought I was dying. The worst panic attacks. Vertigo. Vertigo is a part of anxiety and it feels.

like because vertigo is it's very dangerous if you're driving because you can't control it's like I'm sitting here looking at you and then all of a sudden everything starts and you can't focus you fall over what do you do you just wait till it passes and it's horrendous and how long does it how many times does it come on like a day or a week or it used to come and go for years um sometimes I wouldn't have for a couple months and I'd have a hardcore for a week and I realized it's just pockets of trauma and things that have happened through life that I've forgotten about trying to come out and when now all this started, I started doing a lot of self-help work. I meditate two hours a day. I don't have panic attacks. I don't get nervous. The only time I ever get nervous is if I'm on a

first date, I get really nervous. And if I am auditioning on set, out in public red carpets, public speaking, could give a shit when I first date and auditions, I fall to pieces. Otherwise, I just don't care. Has anyone ever came up to you and said, Olivia, you look so good, Olivia Newton, John. You look so young still. I've met someone on a photo sheet yesterday. He, the photographer, said to me, do you know Olivia Newton John? It's just weird that you just said that. No, but I did meet her once.

Oh, my God, I'd love to meet her. I was in her driveway at her house. My girlfriend, it's her fairy godmother. Oh, not a fairy godmother. What do they call them? Your godmother. And it was weird because her daughter was there and we're all like, you look more like my mom than I do.

And I was like, I'll take this because I love Olivia Newton John. Who doesn't love Olivia Newton John? Does it go. All right, back to this anxiety and stuff. because, you know, to go, that's pretty traumatic. What did you find out was causing this? Because you got down to the, to the surface of it, or not the, what would you say? You got deep.

I can't speak. Sometimes I just can't speak. What is going on, man? You're all congested with cups and muds and phones and bits. I know. I always have shit all over me. So what, so you started getting self-help. You started going probably to therapy.

Started reading. Instead of go, what is causing this? And how did you get to the root of the problem? How did you, how did you know? or just put it into it. It's a reflection of the people you date, the things that every year to look around you and see what you're bringing into your life, what's going on at the time, how you're, why you're doing the things you do, it's time and people are raised so quickly to get all

these answers. And at 38 I can sit here and go, okay, so all the things that I've been through in my life and why I bought that in and why I moved to America and growing up as a kid and trauma through high school. And you don't have to have crazy family. and be, put in horrible circumstances to grow up and have problems. We all have problems. We all have issues.

Even if your parents did the greatest job, you'll still come out a little screwy. Like, some of the most evolved kids had the most craziest parents. It's just a mixture of DNA and who you are and you just figure it out. And we all have shit. You get into relationships. They tend to be the first, you know, the thing that really highlights our messes. Because relationships require us to be vulnerable. and when your vulnerable weird shit comes out, when we perform and we're vulnerable, weird shit.

And as you get older, you just realize we're all a bit fucked and it's okay and we're all working through it and it's hard to change patterning from childhood. We all go, I've changed and then we end up in the same relationship or the same job or the unemployment. It's about breaking those patterns and I found meditation and I found some incredible people over the years. And this is the thing I like about LA, the weirdest fucking people move here. so you can find the craziest shamans or the crazy that really can help you.

You find something that digs in, triggers you a great therapist, hypnotherapy. I've done it all. And I've found my system. And so, yeah, I mean. Do you stay with it? Yeah. Do you still stay with it? Yes.

So you wake up. Nikki Whalen wakes up. What does she do first thing? I take my dog out to the bathroom and I come back. That's a good call. I should have done that this morning. Unfortunately, I took too long and my bathroom's filled with presents. Hello.

Yeah. All right, so go ahead. So then what do you do? Are you on your phone at this point? I've had a quick flick at it sometimes. I try not to get too into the Instagram because then I'm like, out for coffee, grab coffee, make coffee. I bring Yoda back to bed. He sits between my legs.

Phone goes on to timer. A few sips of coffee. Shut my eyes. Phone goes into timer. I put the timer on for about an hour, depending on how much time I have. To take another little sleep. No, I meditate. Oh, an hour for meditation?

Listen, unemployed. can meditate for an hour. We have no excuse. If I'm working, it's 20 minutes. Is 20 minutes not enough if you're not working? No, it's ample. I just enjoy the process of it now. Do you have guided meditation or do you just quiet? Silence. And where does your mind go to? For instance, like right now we're talking and you're meditating. Your eyes are closed. Does your mind just race? Because this is the problem. I think a lot of people out there, I've meditated now is 162 days straight. You have. Congratulations. Yeah. Because I, you know, does it work all the time every day? No, but people think, oh, I can't meditate because my mind races.

And that's the whole point. Your mind does race. Your human being. So the whole point is if you can get moments of just where your head's clear and breathing through it and being present, right? So what goes through your mind? Everything. Oh my God, what I'm going to do?

Why don't I eat? Like, and sometimes I'm like, this isn't working. And then other times I just drop in. There was a quote I saw recently that, I don't know if Bill Murray said it, but it was under a picture of Bill Murray, and it said something like, I just try and show up each day and be available for life to happen to me. And that's meditation. You just lay there, you sit there whatever your process is. It's not about, oh my God, my mind's racing. Eventually, as you know, it will calm down. And if it doesn't, don't worry about it. You'll get it the next day.

The discipline of stopping and doing nothing and allowing. It's like when I booked Trauma Center, I swear to God, I was in the bath at my sisters. It was December. Last year, I laid in the bath. It was summertime. I put my head back and I went, I have no idea where my next paychecks coming from. I'm 37. I have no idea what I'm doing next in my life. And I honestly went, universe, I'm all yours. Just give me what you want. Like honestly, whatever you got next, I trust you. I swear to God, and I felt open. I felt so relaxed. I put my head back and within four minutes. My phone started ringing. It was a producer. I'm like, he just wants to party. I'm not in LA. I didn't answer it. You're going to be working with Bruce Wallace. It's exactly right. He texts

and he goes answer the phone wheelin and I went I am relaxing he goes read this script shooting in Puerto Rico March you Bruce Willis action movie tell me if you want to do it and I just went thank you there is something to the so I try and tell actors and listen it's easy for me because I shot a couple movies this year but like I don't always do that but just try and try and be open because being open is the key and and I don't allow work to be the validation of my happiness you're not give a shit right rain Wilson was on here I always remember that what he said. He says, I am not my work.

Yes. And that's like, that's hard to sort of differentiate or sort of separate. Because work is such a big part of you, but it's not you. So, and I haven't been good in the last week or two because I was really good. I was waking at, like what I do is I don't touch my phone for an hour. Ooh, you're good. I, you know, but sometimes I start to drift off or sometimes I'm not eating right. So it's being good to yourself, being kind of yourself, say, hey, I fucked up for a week.

human. Let's get back on it. Let's get back on this. Let's do the healthy shit again. Let's go back on the hikes. Let's go do this. And I think a lot of people, including myself, that's why I was probably addicted to Xanax for a long time, because I just felt like my mind's, I can't turn my mind off. And I'm not going to sleep. And I'd rather sleep. So I'm going to pop a Xanax tonight and I'll go to sleep. Or, you know, I'm the lead in the show. And I can't, I just, I'm a producer on it. And I have to, I have to be great. And I have to have energy tomorrow. And I'm putting so much pressure on myself and it could it could just take you in a very you know sort of a downhill spiral so my thought is everybody's listening a lot of people are like none of this will work

they're going to meditate and they're like they didn't work I'm going back to a pill or I'm going back to get discipline you got to be discipline it's all about discipline isn't it's all about routine and structure in your life and don't be don't worry about okay some mornings I'm rushing out of the house and I always make my bed but no I make my bed every morning now make If you don't make your bed and you run afloor. Yeah. Just, well, that's a very good time. No, I shower, but I just shower in the morning now.

Yeah. It's just people are searching for, once I get my next job, I'm going to be happy. Bullshit. Go and be happy. Go and be happy with your mates. Whenever I've got time off, even if I haven't made a great deal of money, I'm like, I like my life when I'm not working just as much as when I am working, if not sometimes more.

I love my friends. I love my family. If I'm going through a patch or I'm going through rough, then I get. get really into my self-help work. Love your life. And then work, then the acting thing doesn't become such a, oh God, I'm not working. I'm not validated. It's only going to be better.

It's not like that. You know, like you guys know, you've been on the hugest shows, worked with the biggest actors in the world. It ends and you come back to your home and you just, you know, doing normal shit again. I just think there's too much we put being here and every time you step out the door and everyone's like, what are you working on? How's life? What are you doing? Isn't that the worst thing to hear? You know, it's like, I'm not working on anything.

At the moment, I'm having coffee and walking my dog every day and partying and having some fun and traveling. And I don't think people are listening anyway when they say that. They go, oh, what are you working on? I don't really care in their minds. Hey, how are you? So weird. Like, oh, hi, how are you doing?

Every once in a while I go, eh, I'm not great, just to see if they're listening. And every once in a sudden and go, what? I'm just kidding. I just want to see if you're listening. You know, I love, how are you? Oh, super busy. So busy. I couldn't be busier.

I'm so busy. It is F. That's crazy. You know what, Nikki? Yes. Say your last name again. Wheelan. Okay, I said Waylon.

Why don't you stop me? Does everybody say Nicky Wayland? It's Wheelan. Why do I say? I've always said Whalen. I think of Whalen? I think of Whalen? I think of Whalen?

Can I call you Jennings? Sure. Do you know Whalen Jennings? No. Whalen Jennings, I think, sang the song. Just a good old boys. Oh. Never meaning no harm.

And now they want to do them being in trouble with the law. What show is that? Anybody know? Google Machine over here. Everybody listening. Are you fucking kidding? Are you fucking kidding? Is it a Dukes a hazard?

Nikki, I'm going to be honest with you. I like you a lot more than I liked you before. Like I didn't really know you. I met you once. You were nice. Everyone someone will see each other. Like, oh, hey. I'm like, I don't know.

Maybe in your head you're being judgey. It's like, oh, you know, she's whatever. She's nice. You know, nothing in common. Isn't that typical? Yeah. of people because I'm sitting down with you and having a real conversation. And I'm gathering.

What I'm gathering is not only do we have the same likes and passions, but we're also working on ourselves. This whole last year has been an awakening for me. And so when I hear you talk about things, and all I can do is what you're talking, going, God, I hope she's really being honest right now because this is awesome. I hope she's not a liar. This is, you know what I mean? Do you know what it is?

if you look at our social media, you look at our lives, we're all living our best lives. And it's absolute bullshit. I'm not going to post me looking like shit miserable, though. I like to keep things light and fluffy because my personal life is my personal life. I'm going to sit down and you're going to ask me, I want to share pain, trauma, things that go down. Some days, nothing has to be going wrong to have a meltdown. Some days, just being a human is really hard. It's hard to be alive.

You know, should we be married? should we have kids. Hollywood, weird, life in itself. And then you go overseas. They don't even give a shit about Hollywood. No one's even on Instagram. And they're suffering from their own things. It's weird. We're all getting through it. So I always talk about meditation and how important it is to not find validation in this damn business. Just get your life good. Get your life really good. Do you love yourself? I really, really, really do. You love yourself. You look in the mirror and you go, Nikki Whelan? No, I look in the mirror. Sometimes I got some rough trade this morning. But I look at myself and I don't feel guilt. I don't feel feelings of shame. I've worked on

all these things. I really don't. And that's the beauty at being 38. You know, people leaving me alone. 37, I think so. Well, 37 last year when I had this like meltdown, but now I'm 38. Do you know what? Because the good thing is no one's looking for me to be hot 20s anymore. There's no pressure in that shit anymore. I'm comfortable with it. I don't know. There's something about as you get older, your care factor just, mine does anyway. It just feels better to be here. I don't know. My head is better.

I've done a lot of work. And I still have meltdowns and shitty days too. Ryan's like, but like I still have like hell days. But I just, I kind of like who I am. And that can be a little lonely because when you're letting off a very strong, I'm good. People get scared because they can't latch onto your insecurities. You can't connect with guys because you can't get into unhealthy shit. It can be lonely being healthy.

do you um like when you date guys do you like a guy who could open up and cry in front of you yeah as long as it's not every day of course i mean could you imagine oh my god i just don't yeah you don't want you don't want that ryan do you cry yeah i cry in front of my girlfriend too Amanda well yeah oh movies mostly though oh movies do you ever just cry and go not sorry that's just movies too i was on a date and i was with my friend rob and and a lovely lady and and And we're sitting there and watching that movie Ad Astra. Oh. And nobody, like, I thought they were just so engaged and just loved it.

And they turned to me at the very end. I'm like, how is beautiful? What the fuck? What's what you guys aren't crying? And I just was like, they kind of looked at me. They were cool about it. But I was like, I get, I get, like, touched. When I'm touched about something, like, this girl came up to me, this woman came

up to me in England at a convention as I'm walking into the convention for the first time last weekend. and she just looked at me and her eyes are filling up with tears and she's like your podcast has really helped me and I know I seem like a crazy person right now but just like you talking about depression and anxiety and family and hearing other people's it just you know like in a sense it was like normalizing it and I got emotional I hugged her and I instead of going oh thank you thank you so much I actually allowed myself to fucking feel it and I'm doing that more where I'm like This is a beautiful thing right now. I inadvertently helped someone and fellow human being. And I'm proud of that. And I'm grateful that I could do that. And we shared a moment.

We shared a moment that will last through the end. Oh, that's all right. See how I turn it in. I get vulnerable and then I try to throw a funny. That's a comedian. That's what comedians do. That's me. That's what I do. That's what I do.

It's good to feel. But just I think. Across the board, we're all this new era and these equal rights and all these great things happening and evolve and all these wonderful things changing. But some mornings you've got to wake up and this might be the Aussie in me. Right. Sometimes you've got to fucking get on with it. I'm sorry.

I love to indulge. Talk to me about getting on with it. I love the indulging. I love feeling. I love embracing stuff. But we can, as actors, not having, you know, not working for a couple weeks, we can really get down the rabbit hole with how we feel. Some days you've got to go stop.

I've cried for four hours. we've all had a breakdown. Four hours. I know days. I mean, four hours longer. But like, you know, you get down the rabbit hole. Stop. We felt.

Let's get on with it. Sometimes there's something to. My mom always says, she goes, you know what your problem is all of you in Hollywood? Half you aren't working. You got way too much time on your hands. Get out and get busy. Get a job.

Get busy. Because when your brains work, like when you're on a set, you might be going through something, but you just, you know, you do feel better. I'm working. I'm working. My brain's working. She goes, get busy.

Do you love acting? or do you just do it because you can and it makes you money? But is it something you're on set for 14 hours a day and go, this is great. I love this. I love when I'm on the job. I love being on set. And I love being in the job.

And I kind of don't mind the promo and everything aside of it as well. Like I kind of don't mind promoting movies, like, you know, this sort of stuff. I don't mind doing all the publicity. A lot of actors don't love the publicity side of stuff. but I indulge in all you see me red carpet that's probably why you're like I don't really know pretty pictures of herself yeah like look at my Instagram oh my god bikini red carpet photo shoot sponsoring this did it I indulge in all of it I am in the mix I get into it I make that part of the job a lot of activities you're commodity you're like you're trying to sell

yourself so you work more and you're like a relevant right get in the mix it's just the job who cares some people like back in Australia make funny me and they're like really he posting another picture i'm like yep next but you know what it's this is really cool the dichotomy of who you are on instagram maybe with the pictures and who you are just for real like you said you don't need to show everybody who the fuck you are that's for your own private world your own private life your friends your family and i think that's amazing because in a sense i do the same fucking thing yeah like i you know you're you're you're naturally beauty so I don't beautiful natural you're naturally beauty I'm really I'm really

dumb thank you um but you know I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying you know I like to do funny videos oh here's me doing this oh here's doing this oh my band's playing so I promote myself yeah I love what you're watching you it's so funny little things I'm a bit of spas it's kind of cool I like it though but I do drop shit all the time I don't know what the hell's wrong with me but there's an ad at you see that it's an imperial walker up there i see it you do you're a big star wars fan how many times like every other actor did you just call your agent go just get me in get me an audition i'll be an extra i'll be a stormtrooper you too small for a stormtrooper nicky get me i'll be a i'll be uh funny you say that i'll be a jawa there's no

jawa's in the next one that's only in the mandolarian by the way the mandolarian guys watch that I have no part of it in it, but it's freaking great. Is it? You should watch it. I'm on it. Actually, there's a part of me. Look, if they offer me something in Star Wars, I'd be there. But here's the thing.

Don't you just love being able to enjoy it? Like, it's my escape. It's one of the movies you'll just have, look, you just chuck any of them on and having, going in the background. You know, this year I was working over Halloween, but Halloween's a really big thing for me because it's based around Star Wars every year. Well, you were on Halloween, too. Rob Zombie's movie, right?

Yes. I know shit. You've dug deep. I didn't. You didn't? I just, honestly, you know what I do with my guess? It's funny because one person had this note. And you guys tell me, tweet me and let me know if you think they're wrong.

I don't like to do a bunch of digging. I want to know something about them. And I just want to talk about journeys. And I want to talk about what they do and how they get through things in life. And somebody said that, you know, some of your episodes are great. But there's sometimes you just, you should dig deeper in your, your uh what they've done and who people want to feel shit like that's why reality tv works as well as it does but that's why it does because you're just seeing the ugliest realest

most shockingest things and people want to feel something so yeah on a podcast you're going to ask me the trauma i've been through and why i feel the way of it because people will be like it is that other than everything's great i'm so busy yeah because you know what you do no offense but you could watch and they're great shows you can watch the late night show with any of those guys they're all great they're all i mean kimmel's a genius they're all brilliant but you know what you go on there for four minutes and you talk about lightly oh yeah great great and then you know there's nothing it's just all service the band plays it's fun you don't get into this person at all here you can have a conversation and really get to understand someone yeah that's why i like it and it's therapy for me

i've talked about that on the flip side of that though do you ever feel like like i've worked with Nick Cage a couple of times. Three times. Name drop. Three times. But I'm getting to a good point about this. You won't see him sitting on a podcast. You won't have, find his Instagram or Twitter because he doesn't have any of it.

There is a mystical magic to how Hollywood used to be with no social media. And you'd be like, you know, what is so-and-so doing behind the scenes? Like, you know, the Jack Nicholson's of these worlds and Meryl Streep's who don't have all these Instagram things. Tom Hanks is on there? Well, I know. But do you know what I mean? And like there is something mystical. So when we come on here as actors in our generation and tell all our dirt, does it take away

our magic of our business of what makes it so magical? Or is it just now we're in a place where we need to reveal so much? Because there's something that keeps, when I walk on to set and Nick's there or I did a movie with Nick and Willam Defoe was in it. And I saw Willem Defoe and I was like, there he is in the person. Like you can't find that man anywhere. And to be lucky enough to be on a set with him for five minutes, he's like this mystical man.

And it's like, because you can't find. mind him. Are there something delicious about that? I agree with you, but I'm going to, I always find the, what's it called? Devil's Advocate. Yeah. Be the devil's advocate here. Couldn't think of it.

I kept thinking Pacino, that was the Devil's Advocate. Greatest movie ever. Was it? I love the devil's advocate. But I think that someone like Leonardo DiCaprio, who is epitomizes movie stars. I mean, this guy is the demovie star. Yeah. and what he does for the world and the environment and when people see his tweets and his things he posts and he's on there but he does it mostly it's people are listening to him I'm listening to him yeah so when you have an influence like Tom hanks and he gets them there and this is important I'm like yeah Tom's a really smart guy like I know him Tom let me tell you Tom but you know for me I'm not a big star I've done some great things I was on a hit show I have a podcast

I feel like, you know what, I really love, like for me, why I'm on it, I'm not defending it because I think you're right. We're both right, maybe. No one's going to know if I have a podcast if I don't at least promote it. Yeah. If I don't, if people like me and want to listen to me, I have to get out there and put it on there and let them know where it is and let them know where my band's playing because unlike, you know, the 70s or 80s where, you know, you could actually sell albums if you

have a song you have to go on tour now as a band yeah like and we're not really a tour we go places but we're like hey we want people to listen to music we're proud of it it's a smart thing to do i think if you overdo it or you use it like there's it gets kind of in a gray area like you talk about the influencers you have 26 million followers you know like how do these people have to well they're doing something they're making videos they're whatever i don't know these people but you know what they're doing something right and so i'm trying to take the whole judge thing out of it and you're not I'm not saying you're judging yeah but as much as I want to judge I'm much like what the fuck is this person I'm like you know what they're doing their thing man

yeah and as long as it's not dumping shit into the world yeah because I could still go fuck you what are you doing yeah maybe you have 26 million people but 26 million people are idiots yeah if they're like you're a role model you know what I mean so I don't know it gets kind of cloudy and I just think it's important to respect to a certain degree. I just don't think it'll ever be that way again. Never, never. But I just loved the idea that Hollywood was always such a mystery and you would come here

and I spotted so-and-so at the Beverly Hills Hotel today. Now it's like, yeah, your influence is walking down and he thinks he's more famous than Robert De Niro and you're like, there's this, this weirdness to our business now. And I agree, get out there and make it happen, sell yourself. There's so many talented people that never get seen. Now they have platforms. all of that, I'm not against it. And if you've got to promote yourself, where we've lived both.

You know, we were around 20 years ago when things were not so sad. Yeah, Smallville, by the way, wasn't around with social media. I was done with Smallville. And because it would have been as big as supernatural as now, I think, or at least close. It was a big show. So, you know, we didn't have social media. So it wasn't. And I'm grateful.

Look, I'm grateful for living in the 80s and 90s. I'm grateful for, like, barring my parents' VCR. so I could copy John Carpenter's The Thing in my bedroom because I was a dork and I couldn't get a date. So I'm copying movies thinking that if I have three movies on a VHS tape, this is going to be worth something. Little did I know it would erase in 15 years. So I love all that stuff. I love saying, hey, you want to go to the movies tonight? I'll meet you there at 8.

And you just have to meet. And you cut through my backyard, jump fences. Dude, I love it. I miss that. People will never understand. I feel sorry for kids around the day. it's just like it's all about the phone it's all about the computer and I get it I sound like an old man and I do it too yeah we're in the mix that's what we're talking about like what you said you know

splitting that you know or you said like having a life it's not just all work it's really spending quality time but really really having a life really having a life whether that be family whatever it is yeah have when you have a good life when you can get excited about your coffee in the morning like I can't wait for Michael genuinely you're living a great great life is there nothing else everything else that comes in and listen I'm sure there's actors listening going yeah but I've got to make money and so do I I still got to make money too you know there's this whole thing to it but I just but you have to really enjoy life and and and and go on little uh what's the word adventures adventures thank you activities that's I'm too I just started golf I just picked up golf

started playing golf. I play a little. I play miniature. I'm terrible at it, but I've been at the hitting range. I'm learning how to like... I'll go golf and I go over on Moore Park. There's a little thing on War Park. Yeah. What's it? What's it? Yeah. It's a set. Yeah. Driving range there. I've been like, I'm just giving everything a crack. It frustrates me, but like I get this. When I hit it, I feel so good. I'm present. Finding new activities at 38. It's weird, but you have to do it. By the way, Jack Nicholson. Yeah. He's not on Twitter and Instagram because he spent 75 years of his life not on any you know what i mean yeah nick cage gets huge movies he's a billionaire so he doesn't need to promote himself will him to foe will always work we aren't big stars so it makes more sense to people

like us to use it as opposed to big stars like i have some friends of mine that were like yeah you just that are having a goal at me going i always promoting yourself i'm like unfortunately i'm not angelina jolly and i got to put myself out there and i've got to feed these different markets of things that are going on and they were so nasty about it with me and i was like I don't have a choice. I'm in the mix. These aren't your friends are you? They're actually not my friends anymore.

Side note, they aren't my friends anymore, but they were really weird about it with me. And I, they were trying to, I think they were uncomfortable with how I could promote myself. Because there is a grossness to it. Because you remember like 10 years ago, if you took a selfie, you're like, oh, my God, they took a selfie. They're so into themselves. Now we're like, hey. And it's all of a sudden acceptable. They're still in that mentality of gross.

And I'm like, I don't give a shit. You know what? All I care about is be a good person. Yeah. Be a good person. have a good heart listen to people try to enjoy your life and you know try to be supportive to people you like if you like them you like the podcast support me you know it's like it's like it's really important so Nikki this has been a real treat your movie first of all what's your social handles

so if you want to see these beautiful pictures and see her exploit herself like she's I'm kidding you said that sort of not true no but you know her now so when you follow her you'll be like I like her. She's cool. Nikki Wheelan, all of it. N-I-K-Y-W-H-E-L-A-N, not Whalen, but Willing.

Trauma Center. Look for it. It's got Bruce Quill. It's got Tito Ortiz, and you loved filming it. Bad-ass crew, loved it. It was hard-crum. Was Bruce cool?

Yeah, he's cool. Is he cool? You know, I sat down. I was like, because it's so, you know, you get on set with people like that and you're like, watched you my whole life.

This is very weird. Did you say that? Yeah, no. I didn't actually. I just went straight to the fifth element. Oh yeah That's all I did was interviewing I would have gone to the sixth sense

I see dead people I wanted to know about Miller And I wanted to know about all the behind the scenes Gary Oldman Gary Oldman's my favorite Yeah Favorite of all time He's so good

I just interviewed him I met him You interviewed him No I interviewed Bruce about the Fifth Element The whole time Bruce seems like the kind of guy That when you're talking to him Or when you're acting with him

Like he can barely hear what he's saying Is that I'm right Is he like So do a scene with me Just say something He's just like, okay, um, are you okay? I don't know. And the only reason you could hear that because I'm miced.

Yeah. But as an actor, I'd be like, what, did he say his line? Because it's so internal. I know how it's going to look when they, when they, uh, print and they put the picture up. I know that that, and you know the sound guy's going, the sound guy's going, fuck with this guy speak up. Jesus, I can't. Guys, we got to do that again. I don't hear Bruce.

I don't hear Bruce. You don't hear him. Bruce can you do one? What? I want to do that one. What? I said I didn't want to do another

So true You're so right All these big actors are old school They barely say anything And I'm like I remember there's a time And I was doing a movie Or early on in my career

I'm like I don't know if you want to do that I just I don't really care So And then I'm The director's like Hey can you speak up

I go Doesn't it sound Is it gonna look better If I don't Like I thought Maybe it's just gonna be better If I don't talk louder It's a real moment

And they've got a damn mic On you handle it Just just ask Just act. Cover it. Nikki Whelan. This has been a really treat. I really enjoyed this.

I don't know what else to say. Did you have fun today? I had heaps of fun. I'm obsessed with your house. I feel like I need to like poke around all these shelves and bits and pieces. Your home is absolutely beautiful. Oh, thank you. I've looked for a long time and I've made it mine, my own.

I can stalk you now. I can stalk you now. Well, it's all right. Thank you for having me. Thank you for allowing me to be inside of you. I'd just say that to everybody. I couldn't break that awkward moment. before you just said to me.

No, I say it to everybody. Yeah, I say thank you for allowing me to be inside of you. To guys, girls. It's just the quote. You're welcome. She doesn't get it. She doesn't listen to the show. I do.

All right. Thank you so much. Thanks, guys. You know, I like when a guest opens up. I always say that, Ryan, and I feel like she was genuine. She talked about her divorce. You think somebody's going to act a certain way and it's going to be beneath them. And that's why we shouldn't judge people because I thought she was really,

She was a good guest. You know, I mean, we worked on your Australian a little bit. Yeah, I told you, you know, that's the key. You got to do the, what you call those? The cities in Australia. That's how you do it. Adelaide. Adelaide.

Adelaide. Brisbane? Brisbane. Melbourne. Yep. Melbourne. Perth. Sydney.

Something like that. I mean, that's how I do it anyway. That was the 100th episode. So give yourselves a hand. Thank you. How many people you think have listened to every episode? I wonder if there's a hundredth episode. I wonder if there's a hundredth episode.

wonder if there's any of it. It's actually listened to a hundred of them. That's going to be tough. If you are, tweet me and tell me that because I think that's pretty cool. Shout out to the patrons. Angelina G. Yukiko. Jill E. Emma H. Jason W. Daniel B. Lauren G. Robert B. Nico P. Jerry W. Bob, good old Bob B, Suzanne T, Leah S, Tricia F, Mark A, Scott B, Kevin R, Abdullah, A, hi, hi, Adela, hi, Dion K, Emily F, Nancy D, Al-Sanel, Barry I. Wait, it's Barry L, isn't it? I'm going to say Barry L, I always mess it, he's going to hate me now, he's going to not be my patron anymore. Raj, C, and Sarah V, you guys rock, I really appreciate you. And thank you all for listening and your continued loyal, loyelship? What would you say?

Loyalty. Loyalty. And what's ship? Loyalship is a new word. Can we create that? Sure. Loyal ship. The name of your yacht?

Hey man, then my yacht is loyal ship. Again, thank you so much. If you want to be a Patreon and contribute more, you can. But thanks for subscribing. Thanks for all this stuff. Ryan, you got anything to plug? Oh, I mean, you can watch a recap wrap I did. about the crisis on infinite earths.

Which I'm in. Which you are in. I have a small part. You were kind enough to do that. And where can they find that? You can find that on YouTube.com slash the warp zone. It's really funny. He's really talented.

Check out how funny he is. You're going to become a fan of Ryan's, and then he's going to leave me, and that's how it goes. And then you could also see me, I do an Emperor Palpatine bit in the most recent video. Oh, yeah. Do you have fun doing that? Yeah, I'll show it to you.

There's a lot of work. It was a lot of work. I was actually when I was on set when you FaceTime me, and I was getting the makeup done. And you're, oh, yeah, yeah, you look great. Yeah, it looks even better. I wasn't even totally done. The shit you do before you become famous, huh, Ryan?

What do you mean? What if you just did, wouldn't you just be happy just doing this for the rest of your life? Probably not. You'd probably get tired. I'm having a lot of fun right now. See, that's the thing you're having so much fun. I'm trying to go with it. Do you promise if you do become famous, which I think you will, whatever, you get some, you still do that stuff.

Yeah. Still keep doing this stuff that makes you tick, that makes you you. I will. Because you're good at it. Thanks, man. Yeah, dude. I hope you love the show. Tell us what you think.

Write in. You know I read. Oh, this is a, uh, somebody emailed us here. And that's hello at inside of you podcast.com. If you want to write in, hello at inside of you podcast.com. This is from Arvind. Arvind. I'm going to go with Arvind.

I'm a long time fan of yours, but a new fan of your podcast. I wanted to write to you in two parts as a. fan and a physician. Please feel free to read them in whatever order you wish. Well, you know what? Let me just read the physician part because that's what I'm like, wait a minute. I want to know what a physician thinks of this show. I hope he says, you're not a fucking doctor.

Stop trying to help people. Let's see what he says. Arvin. I work as a family physician in Arizona and treat patients with anxiety, depression, PTSD, et cetera on a daily basis. The biggest challenge that I face is to convince my patients that their experiences are not uncommon and can be overcome. Many people with mental health feel isolated and alone as if there was something wrong with them. The key is to empower those individuals that there is nothing wrong with them

that cannot be fixed by what is right with them. Your show does good work on that front. I especially want to commend you and Stephen Amel for shining a light on how it can feel to be overcome by circumstances, the culture and community that you are helping to create of individuals sharing their feelings and emotions in a way that normalizes their experiences so that they can escape the sensation of isolation that often destroys individuals. I wish you all the success in the podcast because it has the potential to be more than transformative or more. Let me read that again. I wish you all the success in this podcast because it has the potential to be more transformative than other work that you have done.

Sincerely, Arvin, P.S., if I can help as a medical resource, please feel free to contact me. Arvind, that means a lot. You know, the goal was just to talk to people, and if they tell these stories, maybe someone listens and goes, oh, I can relate to that. And that's really what it was. It wasn't about giving advice other than what helps you. I don't know what advice. When someone just says, this is what works for me, well, that's what works for them.

It may not work for you, but it doesn't mean you can't be helped. So thank you. And thank you all. write in, retweet, subscribe, all that stuff. Tell the world, share this podcast with the world. Thank you for allowing to be inside of all of you. Have a good one.

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