Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Peacemaker's ROBERT PATRICK: Learn As You Go

Episode Date: July 19, 2022

Robert Patrick (Peacemaker, Terminator 2) joins us this week and shares his unique perspective in this industry with a forty year tenure, no practical training, and missed opportunities before he found sobriety. Robert opens up on how despite how iconic his character as T-1000 was in Terminator, and how he owes his career to James Cameron, he had to change his appearance to distance himself from the character. We also talk about his chemistry and bond with John Cena, how Demi Moore’s psychic helped save his life, and how Robert got Clint Eastwood to break on set uncontrollably. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Ryan, how are you? I'm good. Man, it's been a whirlwind of shit, hasn't it? Considering, yeah. I mean, gosh, you went off to Ireland to a wedding. I did. Everybody got COVID.

You didn't get it. Except for me somehow. I went to Palm Springs. I went all over the world, and I went to Palm Springs. I got COVID. Jesus. And now I'm recovered. It's a lot.

It was a lot. And now Blanche is coming into the room here. My dog, Blanche. If you guys don't know Blanche. Hey, Blanche. A great episode today, looking very forward to it. Just a few things to remind you about my new show, Talkville, a rewatch podcast with my co-star Tom Welling, is every Wednesday. You could watch it or listen to it on wherever you find your podcast.

Ryan has some major involvement in this. I am. I'm watching Smallville for the first time. And yeah, I got an outside. I got an outsider perspective on it. Yeah. I love that Blanche joined. us. This is a real treat. Why not have her in here? If you're watching, you can see Blanche.

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of you podcast on instagram and facebook i will be in raleigh north carolina with tom welling july 30th and 31st doing the smallville nights on july 29th uh if you're in the area near raleigh I would suggest you get tickets because it's going to be a lot of fun. Everybody comes to Smallville Nights, has a blast. And then I'll be in Boston, August 12th, I believe. So get your tickets to some cons and come see me. I'm also on that cameo thing. But today's guest is, you know, legend.

Yeah. He's a legend. He's on the show, The Peacemaker. James Guns, The Peacemaker. He was in T2, Terminator 2. All-time villain movie history. Oh, yeah. I mean, this guy's been around.

We had a blast talking. I was a little intimidated by him. Yeah, he's got an intimidating presence. But we hit it off and it felt good. And I think you're going to really love this. It's a really good episode. I'm saying this because I know it. I remember this conversation well.

And so without further ado, let's get inside of Robert Patrick. It's my point of view. You're listening to inside of you with my. Michael Rosenbaum Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. I feel like I need more support on this couch. Is that true? No disrespect.

Do you? It's a little saggy. Is it a little saggy? That's all right. No, no, no, no, I got, I got it. You sure? That's why I put the pillow under me. It's a little too Bob Saggin.

It's a little too. This is the way I like to start off. my podcast with an insult to the to the host to the host by the way i just by the way greetings from steve a age i love agey he loves you uh i love steve uh he's just one of the best sweet sweets one of the most unique individuals i've ever met in show business he's one of those guys are you going to be here the all time kid i am yeah yeah keep quiet you know what's funny is you i looked it up you're not very old you're not old i'm 63 that's not all that's not That's fucking old.

Do you feel old? Sometimes. What is it that makes you feel old? Body. From all the work you did, like what did you do, a lot of stunts and shit growing up? Yeah, body is. And my body is relatively healthy compared to a lot of people I know that endured quite a few more mishaps than I did, or injuries that I have. So I feel on one hand

Like I survive pretty much unscathed But anything serious happened to me No bad knee, no bad hip No bad this, no bad nothing But it's aches and pains It's just aches and pains You're talking to Mr. Ake and pain I've had eight spine surgeries

See So neck back playing sports my whole life Early on doing my own stunts Thinking oh I can do this ice hockey you know, wrestle the little football, baseball, baseball, tennis, all that stuff. Yeah, ice hockey is a high-impact sport. So I'm sure you get a lot of injuries that way. Yeah, I think it's just aches and pains.

What do you do? Do you take Tylen off for it? Do you stretch in the morning? What do you do? I take way too many Advils. I'm also on Relief Factor, which is a... What's that? It's a product that has a lot of turmeric in it.

You have to look it up. You left hand? I'm doing, yeah. That's good. Are you too? Yeah. Sweet. I just wrote down Relief factor.

Relief factor. It's got a lot of turmeric in it. You take it like three days. I'm a sucker for all those kind of supplements. Me too. As a matter of fact, my wife just looks at my supplement drawer and just goes, Jesus Christ. Do you use them? Do you drive them?

Anything. Does anything help? I do feel great right now. You do? I was a little bit out of breath coming up your stairs. That's a lack of cardio and a serious cigar smoking, cigar smoking habit. it oh yeah by the way james gun i just asked him i text him and he said i love i said what can i ask him he said ask him how he enjoyed the cigars i gave him well let me tell you what he gave me a box

on the last day of shooting of part of a series d number fours and he what's that those are those are the cuban cigars that he smokes those are they illegal in the states nothing's illegal in the united states okay all right good you know come on uh everything's legal here uh uh James gave me a box. We were in Canada, so I don't know what the laws were in Canada. And they were fabulous. We were talking cigars. I used to show up on the set with a cigar.

Sometimes when I'm, you know, performing, you show up to work. I've always had a nicotine habit, either cigarettes or chewing tobacco. And it's co-exist with my world as a performer. So I like to chew on cigars if I don't necessarily smoke them. Right. So he would see me doing that. But you don't smoke cigarettes anymore. You don't chew tobacco anymore?

Or is it on occasion? It depends. I mean, I could. I mean, I could just fall off the fucking wagging. You could have a dart right now. I could go right now and go that one. You can go outside and have it. You can do it.

So you don't lose that craving. I have not. I mean, I don't really seriously have a desire to smoke cigarettes anymore. I can feel the right. rattling around going on in there. And I'm not too crazy about it. My father died of lung cancer. You know, my fate is sort of, I think, preordained.

Jesus. You know. How old was he? He was 80. All right. 80's a good life. So I got 17 years, you know, based on his clock. Who knows?

He was a big smoker. He was. He quit. You know, I was thinking about my dad recently because he has passed away. And it's Mother's Day. and I'm thinking about Mother's Day's coming up and I'm thinking about my mom. She was 20 when she had me.

She was 20. 20 years old. My mom was 23 and my dad was 19 when they had me. Oh my God. Where are you from again? I grew up in Indiana, but I was from New York, but I grew up in a small town in Indiana. So we grew up in George,

you were all over the place. I was in Michigan, Ohio. I was all over the place, Michael. Yeah, Atlanta, Boston, Dayton, Detroit, Cleveland. People ask me where I'm from. That's what I say. Atlanta, Boston, Dayton, Detroit, Cleveland. Jesus.

Was that bar growing up as a kid moving around with that? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. How so? Well, you really have to kind of look at it from where it was in history. I mean, I was born in 58 in the deep south. I was raised in the deep south in the 60s. My father was a New Englander. He was a college graduate. My mother was a cracker. Okay. She was a white girl raised in Marietta, Georgia, got through high school, went to work at Lockheed Aircraft Corporation at 19. My dad fell in a little. love with her love at first sight three weeks they were married three weeks they got married at 19 and he was like her night and shining armor so he was her first love uh she had had some other boyfriends i think in high school oh my mother was a looker so she had uh she had her share of guys that were after you know and uh right but i think my dad just swept her off her feet he was a college he was a college educated college educated guy i believe he was like i'm gonna say he was probably about 21 you graduate college you're like 24

22, 23, 23, somewhere around. Well, I was 23, 24. And, you know, I was thinking about it because I was seeing a picture of my father who was sitting in front of a, he's sitting in front of a Ford, I believe it was called a sunliner. That sounds familiar. Like a 56 or 57 black and white. He has on a suit. He's smoking a cigar.

He's got his glasses on. He looks cool as shit. Probably the coolest he's ever looked in his life. And he sits standing for him. And he had to sell that car when my wife. my mother got pregnant and they had me and i'm you know with everything that's going on right now in our society with all this stuff yeah it just really made me think about man i'm lucky to be here yeah you know thank you mom right is mom with you thank you for having me is mom still with you

you you probably had a choice my dad said i got to sell the car to have this kid right you know what i'm saying yeah thank you is your mom still with you she is she's uh she's she's she's 83 she's she's exactly 20 years older than me wow she is she uh you guys still close very much you talk to her how often every freaking day really about it's a treasure about anything anything how are you what's going on what are you doing she's interested in your life always has been always been supportive always supportive i think part of the reason why i became an actor was for her really i think she wanted to be an actress she was pretty enough and she fancied herself as a like a model you know i got to see a picture now well i'll show you do i have a phone did i bring my phone i don't know i don't know

might be in your car no might be in your fancy car that you drive oh come on that was a fancy loud car was like what the hell's outside that's just an engine roaring out there that's just a dodge hell god it's a 707 horsepower you got to dip it down into your Detroit voice a dodge what is it Dodge Hellcat. The old Dodge Hellcat. 707 horsepower of pure muscle. Detroit muscle. Michael, I love you already, buddy.

So when's part two? When do I come back and do part two? That's it, man, we're done. But James gave me, going back to James, see, I don't, I don't lose that. James gave me that cigar, and I smoked them, I enjoyed them. They were the best cigars, and now I'm addicted to Partagus Series D, but they're a little price here for he's in a different economic category

than myself. I still got a boy in college and, you know, so I knew James when he wasn't in such a category. He was, you know, he was just, he was fighting. He was doing all right, but he wasn't, I mean, Guardians of the Galaxy guy. Peacemaker guy. Yeah, he, he became that

guy. Oh, he worked hard. His story is fascinating. Yeah. All the brothers and the sister he has grown up in St. Louis and by the way, he wants to know if you're going to the wedding. I am. Are you? Yeah. Yeah, I'm going. Oh, yeah. You're going to go. Oh, yeah. You're going to go in Aspen. Yeah, why not? Let's do it. Ryan wants to do it. I want to do it. I love Jen. I think she's great. Jen is awesome. I love James. I don't know James as well as you. I've just worked for him.

He loves you, though. He loves you. It's, you know, why does he love you? Why do people like you so much? Because, I mean, you know, I read somewhere, it's like Jason Bateman says you're one of the, one of the heavies of the acting world. You're like, people are always talking highly about, uh, she's a beautiful. beauty look at her Ryan look at the picture of his mom she's 19 she was she's a beauty right let me see that picture i could put it's like she's 16 or 17 there's what a smile she's just a sweetheart i think that's like in high school i don't know how old she is there but i saw that and i went like you know god bless her i mean you know i mean you think about your parents and you think about how they grow up when they grow up when they're growing up yeah it's a simultaneous thing

James and I were trying to figure out where we met to do when we were when we were doing peacemaker he alluded to the fact that possibly I had read for him for slithers slither or excuse me slither slither I didn't mean plural oh you read for that for the lead part I think so and then he gave it to Rooker and he gave it to Rooker because uh James in his inevitable way of making you feel good He said something offhand like, I think you were too good looking. Well, you know. Anyways, what is the sweet thing to say? You know what?

I think that that would probably hurt Rooker's feelings. It might. And I don't want to hurt Rooker feelings because I love Rooker. I love Rooker. I love Rooker. Who doesn't love Rooker? I've done two movies with Rooker. What'd you do with Rooker?

I did a great movie in Cleveland, Ohio about a rogue SWAT Team Force. It was an exploitation film. It's not, you know, one of those films. Right. And a Rooker is an FBI, H-R-T agent, and I am a SWAT team leader in Cleveland, and I become judge, jury, and executioner for bad guys. Wow. And the whole thing is like a, it's like a, you know, it's a, like a chess game of him

trying to find out who it is, and we're doing what we're doing, and we're, and a big showdown in a big park in downtown Cleveland, Ohio. The producer of it was a gentleman named Alan Sheck. who was from Joel Silver's So big action movie And we patterned in after the North Hollywood Shootout at the bank That was the famous bank shootout

That happened in North Hollywood in the 90s I didn't even know about that Oh you know about that No When did you get here man? I got here in 99 Oh yes So I missed it I missed it

I missed it. Look it up big shootout So we have this huge shootout In this big park in Cleveland It was beautiful And Michael eventually gets me, and then he eventually becomes judge, jury, and executioner, and he kills me. Inside of you is brought to you by Rocket Money. I'm going to speak to you about something that's going to help you save money, period.

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Do you like, I mean, you play these roles. I mean, these intense roles. You're either heroic or you're this villain or what do you prefer? Because you're a funny guy. Do you want to play more comedic roles? Because you have that comedic charm, even in a peacemaker. Yeah, well, the James is the gateway. I mean, he's the one that kind of unleashed that

and gave me the opportunity to kind of have fun with that. And I'm also getting more confident in myself as a performer that I think I can do more and more things. It's a complex, what you're talking about is very, to me, it's very layered. I think I'm in a unique situation because of the way. way I came up in the business. I came up as a guy that started with Roger Corman. I could do my own stunts. I could fight. I happened to be fairly suitable looking for the camera and I kind of worked my way in that way. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. And I have a street cred and sort of

something to back it up. Right. And that overcame my lack of formal training. You didn't really have that much training growing up. I came out here. I lived in my car for a couple of weeks. I didn't know anybody. I didn't have an agent. What year is this? 1984. 84, you came out here, living in your car. You didn't have an agent. And by the way, I hear that you, like, I read somewhere you didn't even want to act when you were younger. Like, you didn't really have it.

Well, yeah. You've done some great research. Dug deep. Well, my first acting experience, it was my mother kind of got me doing like some print ads in Georgia for, like, Rich's department store. But I was chosen to be Peter Pan and play in. in third grade and I was kind of embarrassed about that and the guys and then there was the question of you got to wear the tights and I'm like, what the fuck? I don't think so. It'll be green corduroys for me. And, you know, at third grade, I think that we know, what year was it, 67 or something like that? I did Peter Pan. And you know what? I loved it. Really? I mean, as far as I can think

back to my mind, what I was thinking at however old I was. Just an excitement. I loved it. I jumped out on stage. Hi, I'm Peter Pan from Never, Neverland. You played Peter Pan? I was Peter. It was just a school play, but I think it was enough, Michael, that it kind of made me go acting, right? And you remember when I grew up, well, you don't remember, but I mean, I grew up in a time when you didn't have this.

I know. You didn't have games. I didn't either. You didn't have any of that shit. Yeah. You had a baseball. You had a football. You had a gun.

You had a gun? How old were you when you had a gun? Bibi guns. Okay. A little Bibi gun. You had the woods. Right. Oh, yeah.

You had a dog. You had some friends. You had a bike. And you went out and created your fun. That's true. And you acted. We acted like we were in Vietnam. That was my childhood.

So essentially, I've just figured out a way to professionally prolong my childhood. And now I'm 63 with aches and pains. and, you know, I feel it. Was it your, did your mother go? You know what? You were really good in that? Was she very supportive? What would your dad say at that point?

Was he like, no, no son of mine's going to be an actor? No, my dad and my mom were more. They were more, they're very fear-based people. Really? Yeah. Explain that. Well, they were born during, you know, World War II. And they were raised in the post-Great Depression era.

My mother was incredibly poor growing up. Her father abandoned her when she was 11. Wow. And she didn't see him again until she was married and had kids. My father was the son of a career soldier. My grandfather, this tattoo right here, my grandfather was World War I. He ran off and joined the Army. He came out and he went to school and University of New Hampshire, played football there after the war.

and then had a restaurant in Boston and then went off to World War II and it broke out, he enlisted. And then he was in Korea. Bronze Star, awarded a Bronze Star. And so my father and my mother both were very fear-based. So were they afraid of everything?

And I know you're trying to get inside me right now. So I'm going to put up a parameter. No, but were they afraid that you were going to, they were fearing that you might fail at this and this was too hard. That's what you're getting. Exactly. Right.

If you, I don't want, I don't want to make my parents, well, my dad's dead, but I don't want my parents to really, I don't want my mother to feel bad about this. But, you know, there was, when you hear, when you hear these sayings that the, don't share your goals with people or don't tell people what you plan to do or what you hope to do because your friends and family are be the ones that are going to discourage you the most, that's what I came from. really i think that with acting i think all parents discouraged their kids absolutely you know i think there was a part of me my dad i was in college i was doing a play and i was like i want to be an actor he's like eat your steak i was at denny's eat your steak he was he was like come on shut up you're going to college here you're going to be an actor what are the odds of you becoming anything in your life that's you know he was alluding to it's a crapshoot it's a crap shoot it's a genuine crap yeah so after peter pan that's why we love guys like james gun because his

his whole career is a crap shoot i mean it's the same steve aegee all of us we're all that guy we are that guy however we got there that we said you know what fuck it i want to be a movie guy i want to do i want to do i want to act i want to perform that's what i want to do so that's why we all get along when we come to los angeles i think it's like it's like this boulea base of all these people that were in the same way they want to pretend to play yeah well you said a few minutes you said something that kind of like i let it go because you were talking but you said something about how about your your confidence level or something about your nerves about how you're still you're still you're still you know finding that you're still I look at you somebody who

has total confidence now I do now you have total confidence now I do with everything I mean career wise with acting with acting you don't you don't get nervous oh fuck yeah I get nervous you do fuck yeah I think you're I think you're if you don't get nervous you should be worried I mean, do you get nervous, Michael? Oh, yeah. I mean, it's as confident as I am. Right. And believe you, me, acting is a relaxation and confidence game.

That's what it is. You have got to relax. You have got to be confident. And then that means when the nerves pop up, you've got to know how to deal with that. you got to deal with it on the spot how long did it take you to learn that well i have a great acting coach who's that stephen bridgewater stephen bridgewater you still see your stephen bridgewater is my man now i i may call him and i may send him something you don't need me we're at that point now we're hell you don't need me you don't need me you don't need me for this and you just do it on your own

And what I've learned. I've been with a guy for, you know, almost 25 years. What do you do to relax? What do you do to get that confidence? Because you're saying you're nervous at first. Well, part of the way I get the confidence is something that Stephen told me as well, which is you're always going to work. So let's eliminate that part that you're always going to work. Wow.

So that anxiety, move it. That fear, get rid of it. you're good no you're good you're good you are good you you are good you are good yeah and you took you probably some time to believe that i'd never had anybody tell me that even after i'd done you know even after i'd done t2 i was still kind of even after t2 and that's a hell of a fucking performance even more as i go further and further and further away from what i go like i didn't realize how i got into it such an intense part too yeah And it's, it's a, and it's not just me.

It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a hell of a thing. And you hadn't done much before that. I'd only done Roger Corman. Well, you did a diehard, small part, right? I did a small part and diehardt, too. Rennie Harlan cast me on the spot. So as I was getting into Hollywood, I was, I was learning as I was going, and I had no mentor. I had no one, no one really to plot or chart and, uh, any career.

No career advice. I mean, I had my wife who loved me by that time. And you're still with your wife. Oh, I love my wife. You're one of the rare breeds, man. I love my wife. You've been with her since, what, 90? In 1984, I met her right away. I met her very soon after I got her. She was my angel. She was one, she was one of them that said, you're going to make it. You know, and if you got a couple of people like that that believe in you and you're looking for some sort of an assurance. Yeah. Because you don't know. You think, maybe I've got a shot at this.

Isn't that true? You've got to have like that one person or a few people in your life throughout the years that goes, keeps giving you the shot. Ever wonder how dark the world can really get? Well, we dive into the twisted, the terrifying, and the true stories behind some of the world's most chilling crimes. Hi, I'm Ben. And I'm Nicole. Together we host Wicked and Grimm, a true crime podcast that unpacked. real life horrors one case at a time with deep research dark storytelling and the occasional drink to take the edge off we're here to explore the wicked and reveal the grim we are wicked and grim follow and listen on your favorite podcast platform I had a casting director who used to always just call me in and say hey we're going to get you something you've got this you've got this and you know I wouldn't get a part I wouldn't get a part and then she just kept fighting for me she always fought for me she saw something I mean that I

I didn't see. Yeah. And you, and you, you're aware, you know, in your head, you know, you just need that. I mean, you're, you're thinking, and I don't know what you're religious, I don't know where you are religiously. I have a deep, deep commitment to God. So I'm a, you know, Anglo-Catholic. Right.

And so I have that relationship. But I'm also looking for, you know, I'm not, I shouldn't say I'm looking for it. It's just nice to get a. external sort of like to get a hey man you're gonna be good you're gonna be all right or somebody you don't know you don't know how that'll do like you'll say that to somebody and you don't think it's a big deal i feel so much better right now and then and then i know i tend to get kind of deep i'm trying to be too no this is why this is the show i like this is real shit but this is uh this is where you're people don't realize the impact they have and just what a kind word can do for someone yeah

That person could be waiting to hang on to that kindness that you gave them and it could lift them up to do things you'll never know. I mean, if we all look back and see who gave us that that kept us going when we were thinking about maybe it's over, you know, maybe. Who was it? Well, my wife was one. When I got out of here, she saw you at your lows too. Well, she saw me when I was a broke dick dude and she literally got on stage with me when I didn't know what the fuck. fuck I was doing and and I fucking had a you know I was awful what do you mean on stage I got on stage and did a scene with her in front of a bunch of people on a showcase at al's bar and I sucked

you you don't forget that you remember this like I could tell I didn't even know what the fuck I was doing and I swore to myself at that time I went like that will never happen again so you almost thought like I'm going to quit acting no no no no no I went boy you didn't know what you're getting into you didn't really realize how much you know weren't prepared you weren't you weren't not prepared you don't know how to prepare you don't even know what the fuck you're doing you can't just fucking wing it wow

you fucking so you were just going on natural talent you go I could just do this based on like you know yeah and I'm just good enough I don't even know if I was saying I was good enough I was going like I'm just going to fuck and keep going until somebody says you can't do this really you know what I mean yeah was was Cameron one of those guys

when you're doing T2 was he one of the guys who was like hey great job really great job I love that. He was. He was. He was. Yes. Yes.

He was. Yeah. And, you know, I don't want to gloss over the fact that I really owe him a, I owed him in my career. I mean, you know, James Cameron is really the guy that, uh, saw all that bundle of insecurity and, you know, and all that stuff that I had going on and said, you can fucking do this. Really? And he did say that. You know, when I, I read the script.

and I came into him it's a long I'm not gonna we don't have enough time to get in the whole fucking T2 thing and there's tons of times I've talked about it but you know after I read the script which took like five fucking hours

I walked in and I put the thing down and then I I can do this and he that's why you're here Robert that's what he said that's why you're here

yeah and that was pretty amazing and that was it and I got the role. And that changed your life. Oh, yeah. Gave me my career. That one role.

Gave me my career. Because you were broke. I had nothing. The money I made on Die Hard 2, I bought a barber and engagement ring. I was still living at the Hollywood Tower at Franklin and Argyll. Are you serious? Yeah. Is that haunted that place?

No. I thought it was haunted. It's haunted with. Your ghosts. My ghost. Your ghosts. Wow. So that made you, and the door started opening.

People started calling you, your agent. You had an agent at this point. I did. I did. I had an agent that got me T2. And then like every person that gets a big movie and the other big agencies come circling around, I made a move. Right. And that was one of the biggest movies ever.

Well, I made a move to a bigger agency. Oh, yeah. That's what happens, isn't it? And then I felt bad about that. And then I was over my head. So it was, it's weird. I think about it now. I mean, there's a lot.

I feel like I lost a lot of momentum at T after T2 for a number of reasons. And I'm going to talk about this because I feel very comfortable talking to us. I'm an alcoholic. I'm not turning this into an A.A. No, a lot. But I am an alcoholic. And I was a big substance abuser and alcoholic prior to T2. And I got myself clean and sober for T2 because I knew.

knew that I could not do that film with the recreational activities that I had going on. Nor was I going to be able to drink. I had to go and be a monk. I had to focus. I had to do the film. And when it's over, of course, I'd go back and hit it hard in a big way. Right. Because now I've accomplished something.

And... You'd think. if I may interject, that you'd think that after doing that and getting off the booze and having such success that you'd think, oh, well, look at what happened when I got off the booze. But that wasn't the mindset. Because it's an addiction. Not for this guy. No. I wasn't mature enough to handle it. Even though I was 30 years old. I was 30 when that, 31 when that came out. And I rewarded myself by partying for like two years, you know like three years like four years

until I finally realized what am I doing I've destroyed this great gift of momentum I've gotten I've you really destroyed it you can tell you destroyed it oh I feel so I feel like I did like with what I don't think I would put I don't think I prepared myself for some of the opportunities I was presented

and therefore I didn't get the jobs I think that had I had a little bit more of a mentorish relationship with someone that could have because I shifted agents at the same you know I left my agent went to some new agents

and they didn't really know me and they didn't know how crazy and insecure I was and they didn't know my story and I think they just thought they could just you know and I didn't handle it well I did not handle I was not prepared for

I wasn't prepared for being famous all of a sudden And, Michael, I wasn't really famous Because no one knew who the fuck Robert Patrick was I was The guy from T2 I was the T1,000 Did you hate that?

No It was a terrifying thing though I mean To the point where I realize I'm not going to get another job either Because if I look like Like I look like now It's kind of like when I

you know, that's the way I carry myself now. But at the time, I decided I need to gain some weight. I need to grow my hair along. I need to grow a beard. I need to get away from this guy if I'm ever going to get hired again. And it was a year and a half before I got hired again. And what was it? What was the first movie?

Yeah. Fire in the sky. Great movie. Thank you. But there was a lot of psychosis to get to that. And even that one, I was hitting the bottle a little bit too. But by the way, was it as close as you came to maybe losing your wife when you were, because being an alcoholic is probably not something.

fun to be around yeah barbara bar it's funny my wife she doesn't she even though i am an alcoholic and i know i am she doesn't think i am and i go well babe you know if you get drunk every day of the week you're pretty much a fucking alcoholic i mean yeah yeah if there's uh if there's a reason you know if you're getting high every day of the week i mean might be a problem it's not hard being in hollywood and going through that i i i you know michael when i got here and i'm not going to throwing me my old buds under the bus but that was what you did you worked you made money you went on on unemployment you went on unemployment and you partied to deal with whatever and you played golf or whatever you did to you waited for that next gig and then he worked hard on that

gig and got that money and then you party well usually they say you got to hit rock bottom before you change your ways did you hit rock bottom I don't think I hit rock bottom I was I was still relatively successful. I'm giving it to you from my perception. Like, I think I blew my opportunity right after T2. What do you think could have happened? I just feel like if I was more prepared and had a little bit more confidence, going back to the confidence in my... I still lacked my... I didn't have enough confidence in my abilities as an actor. Even though I pulled that role off, I wasn't sure I could do everything. Right.

And the lack of training I had before I got into Hollywood was holding me back. And this is just me. Yeah. This is the fucking headcase. This is my headcase. And you never went to therapy or anything.

No. Because that's not how you were brought up. No. That's a stigma. Crazy? That's nuts. Your dad wouldn't do that. Your mom wouldn't do that.

You're not doing that. I'm not crazy. That's the mentality. That's the mentality to this day. If you can go back, you probably would see a therapist. I'm so fucking lootly. Yeah.

And I have. Right. But I come from that time period where, you know, you didn't, if you had a problem, like my grandfather, had a problem after all the wars, he just drank every night. Right. And my dad was the son of an alcoholic. And my mother, her father, he was an alcoholic. That's how you dealt with things.

Well, that is how you dealt with things. And it's probably still how you deal with things today. When was the last time you had a drink? 26 years ago. you want to know how i quit michael i'm going to give credit here i hope i can do that please i would like to lift people up instead of bringing them down and i'm going to say uh i was working with demi more and i was doing striptees oh yeah and i played her drunken redneck husband probably the most true to casting i've ever had i remember that too i remember that i was a piece

you were yeah you were tough work and uh Yeah, I like Timmy and they may like me. We got along really, really well. And she said to me at one point, she said, you know, I feel like you have a real anger issue on the set one day. I said, really? She said, yeah. And then she, and I thought about that.

What the fuck does that mean? Like, I'm not angry at her or anything, but what is that? You know, I was drinking about two to three bottles of wine at night on that movie. that's a lot of wine and I wouldn't even leave my hotel I was in there by myself anyway was it affecting your work I don't think so because I thought

it was pretty good in that movie you were it helped me in that movie yeah but you couldn't forget what she was saying yeah I mean I just it was one of those things and I thought wow I mean it was it was constructive I feel like your deal was you know I don't know what made that happen

but she had a psychic that came on the set and a gal that does a reading and she you know me and the gal went to my trailer and we did this reading and this gal said I see alcohol all around you it was like the first thing she said and I listened to that and I thought about it and she was telling me about my my my grandparents my ancestors and all that kind of stuff and I started going I think I have a fucking problem and that was pretty much my bottom that and when I told my wife I wanted to have kids and she said are you out of you your fucking mind you want to have kids you think i'm going to have kids with you why don't you

try to get off the recreational drugs for a year or two so i don't have any no any problems having a kid yeah we'll take it from there and how old are your kids now my daughter's 25 so it was right after so let me tell you something michael when you can look your your kids in the eye and say, I literally got sober to conceive you, to have you. That's how much thought and planning went into you. It's pretty powerful. That is intensely powerful. And both of them know it.

My son, who's 21, is a song and dance man. He's at Boston Conservatory, Berkeley School of Music. My daughter, Austin Patrick, is a college graduate, a newlyman. actress she's getting out there she's done a few things she's done a few little movies Austin Patrick for any of you listening she's she's in Hollywood auditioning are you helping her out but she got her sad card in a movie I produced really yeah while she was in college she went to Bennington and she graduated with a degree in liberal arts and uh studied film and and literature and and all that while she was there and so she wants to she wants to pursue it

She's born and raised here. I never, my kids always did schools. Do you have children? No. Look at where I live. Look at the movie posters. Do you think I have children? Look, I'm a child.

Your house is, I think your house is very cool. Thanks. And I know I rushed right in here to do this. I can't, I had no book business. You know, just jump less. I loved it. I love that you just jumped in. So it's fantastic.

I love it. You got to come out to my dealership, see my dealership. You have a car dealership? I own a Harley Davidson dealership. Are you serious? Yeah, Santa Clarita, California. It's not far. You need to come on out.

It's movie posters. It's all my memorabilia, T2 arcade. It's sort of a, my guys kind of go like, yeah, we know who owns this place. Oh, I got to go there for sure. It's, I love Harley Davis. Harley Davis to save my life, man. I mean, it's, it's. Why's that?

Literally. I, uh, well, go ahead. In brief. In brief. Oh, I got stung. I got stung by a bee riding a Harley Davidson. I pulled over on the side of the road because I, I felt like I was having a heart attack

and I didn't realize I was having an anaphylactic reaction to this beast thing. I turned off the bike. I was straddling the bike. I passed out, went into an anaphylactic of, I think they called it, a fever. Fever, whatever.

Yeah. So I went unconscious on the bike, straddling it with the kickstand down. But the bike, I'd shut it off. But the bike and the pipe was so hot. It woke you up. It burned you. It burned my leg.

They say my adrenal gland reacted as a result. It was like getting an, EpiPen, kick me back up to life. I pulled myself away from the bike. It was on Mahal and Highway right across from Calabasas High School. And I passed out in the, in the, in the, in the bushes under the trees. I can show you the spot pretty much there. It's right, it's right where I grew up, actually.

So, so, so, you know, right across the street under those trees and I'm under there, right at that. Anyway, and I pass out again and I wake up and, um, I've pissed myself I'm soaking wet I have shit and leaves all over me so obviously I've been flopping around like trying to I fought it

and I rode home and went and saw my doctor the next day and he said well apparently you had an allergic reaction to this peace thing it was on the side of your head and you went into an anaphylactic shock and let me see that burned

and you're lucky to be alive wow but Michael as I said before I am a Christian and have a deep relationship with God. Always since you were young? Well, since I was a kid. Right.

And seriously, that has, that has, if you have that in your life, you've already, you've been given a step up the ladder, I think. Right. If you have a grounding in. So you pray, you go to church? I pray first thing in the morning. First thing in the morning. I roll off the bed. I hit my, my knees hit the pillow on the floor, and I pray for, I pray for, I pray for, I pray for,

for the fact that I woke up. You do. I start there. Gratitudes. I do, I start with, I woke up and then list my gratitudes. Every morning. Every fucking morning. It's your routine.

It's my routine. Does your wife, does Barbara do that? No. She doesn't, she religious? She has her own thing. She has her own thing. She has her own thing. She goes to church with me.

She believes in God. Wow. But I, you know, I don't push my religion on. Anyone. I don't, yeah, I'm not, I'm not even trying to push it on you. I'm just trying to relate how I get through. life. Yeah. And I think that's what this part. I'm not religious, but I believe in God. I believe what this podcast is about, right? And, you know, it's how we cope and how we deal

with the world. Yeah. I'm just as crazy as anybody. But, you know, I do think that, I think that, I think that having a deep foundation of belief in something is, is a leg up. Yeah. Having faith in something is important. It's very much vital. Even if it's just gravity. As my brother, as my brother, Richard likes to say gravity gravity have faith in gravity okay do you think are you someone who has to keep busy all the time or you'll go crazy do you have to always be working well i i think it gives me a a real strong sense of purpose and i need it uh i need to have something in front of me um my discipline has kind of been changing over the years like i like walking my dog now and more than i like running i like uh i like uh i like stretching and doing yoga now more than i do doing weights

weights yeah uh i still have to kind of stay strong and it seems somewhat dangerous for most the roles i play right but i'm never going to look like john sina you know who can look like john sina john sina he's the only one he's a fucking amazing he's he's a machine your relationship is so awesome in that. It's so ridiculous. You know what? It's so great. Don't we have great chemistry? Great chemistry. You know, James didn't even know that. James Gunn didn't even know that when we got cast. Really? No. You're asking. He said to me, I see you, he saw me an HBO peacemaker, or HBO Perry Mason. Right. And he started thinking about me over the pandemic. You know, he was watching Perry Mason. He thought about me for this role. And he started writing the role for me for peacemaker.

that was the impetus for him and when we had our Zoom meeting we had a Zoom meeting that's how that's how that's how that went down he said I said you know I've worked with John and he said I didn't know that I said oh yeah I played a villain opposite him in his first film

wow and he went really and I said and I said as a matter of fact we have good chemistry because we actually get along this is before you started filming this yeah I hadn't seen John in like 10 years

I worked with him on psych was another episode we did a thing on psych you did psych i did i think two episodes was du lay and james they've been on here a couple times i hope i i think they like me i i i don't really know i'm sure they did i i had great fun working with them um uh but uh john and i uh i think uh he i brought my son to see him wrestle a couple times i'd love and john uh john was super cool with my son my son maybe you know he's 21 now maybe 10 years ago he was 10 my son was like going to wrestling academy with luke perry's son out here in the valley rick drazen's uh school and uh and john did this thing i think it was in arizona summer slam or something or something or other

he knew where we were where we were sitting we were sitting right close to me he had arranged it and he came into the ring with all that you know that stuff that he duff and he and he slid across the ring came through the ropes and leaned over and took his hat off and plopped it on my son's head and then went back up on stage and started wrestling it was like the coolest fucking intro i never that is remarkable and my son was just like you know he'd been touched by thor i mean you know it was like it was an amazing thing that's amazing what a sweetheart so we have a great we have a great relationship. That's great. I hope John says the same thing because I think we do. I think we have a really good chemistry and I think it works really well. Yeah, I think it's wonderful. Do you feel like

people at some point, do you ever feel like they're intimidated by you? That you're like, why are they intimidated by it? I'm a loving, fun guy. Do you ever feel that? Have you ever been told that? Yes. Really, by who? That's kind of really hard to. I mean, I can turn it on and turn it off. you know i mean you can be intense you know if you're not sure about someone if you don't trust them maybe you're not as open you're not as yeah loose yeah yeah i feel comfortable talking to you right i know i'm aware of you enough to know that i can talk to you yeah i mean we we're cool yeah i don't always um i'm not always willing to uh let every you know everybody in yeah i'm not always do you feel like you ever challenge someone or challenge a new director to see what they know

if they know what they're doing. I can be kind of grumpy sometimes with newer directors that don't seem to have an appreciation for 40 years of work that I've done, that they don't think I'm aware of what's going on with my fucking craft, that I can do what I can do. Let me tell you something about James Gunn, if I'm... Please. Because I love the guy.

Yeah. First day I worked with him. It's me and John. We've got two scenes in the kitchen. big scenes i'm prepared john's prepared there is no question it's just this all right let's shoot the rehearsal we shot the rehearsal now that's the kind of fucking director i like uh that is awesome because i hate rehearsing and rehearsing and then i mean i'll do it i'll do rehearsals. But there's nothing like being loose

and ready to go and they're rolling cameras and you're, you know? And even if you're nervous and dealing with whatever you're dealing with, that energy's great. Yeah. And you know, I don't know if, I mean, that's the way James worked with me. The first thing I ever did with him was shoot the rehearsal. Wow. So I was like, fuck yeah, because I love Clint.

That was the first impression you got from. Oh, yeah. This guy's great. This is going to be, this guy's defense. I mean, this Hallelujah. I didn't know that was coming. right and uh uh you know i've worked with clenny's wood twice he's that way billy bob thornton is another guy i've collaborated with he's that way yeah there's just something about it because it's a respect of i'm prepared i'm prepared and this is not only my time but it's your time yeah and we got to go and you've hired me and i get it i've also endured i don't really know if i feel comfortable i've also been around and been on sets

where great big name actors have deliberately sabotaged the shooting schedule either inadvertently or purposely but they have definitely

taken steps to slow down production because of their own vanity and process. And that's much with some of the older actors that come from that period of I don't want to give up real estate to a certain individual and I don't

I want to dominate this character and it's the character and it's not me, it's this and I don't like this blocking and it's all that kind of shit you go like oh boy and you kind of have to suck it up and just go I don't think there's time for that now in this day and age I mean you work all the time now I think people hire you they come in and they expect you to do your job

yeah I mean when I work with Clint Eastwood on flags of our fathers I love Clint I worked with Clint what did you do I did this movie called Midnight the garden good and evil had one big scene in the court room yeah i loved him he was like that's a great movie he was the best director in terms of just like he would just do your thing shoot it and then he go that was great just on this take just acknowledge the jury that's all i need you to do i go do anything

else he goes no how did you feel i go i felt great he goes all right you want another one he and he and he would even say action remember he would just say he just go jack to jack green his dp and you just do that rolling motion oh yeah oh i loved i loved clint he was it was such a great and it was my first real movie my friend with him well i got to tell you i got to go back and watch that and and i loved your impersonation of him too by the way and and that's exactly the scenario yeah i did a uh uh um neil macdonna and i did a big love neal he was on here oh was he yeah i love neal i love i love his uh love of catholicism yeah oh yeah he's got a beautiful family oh yeah Wonderful, wonderful guy.

We were doing the outline the parameters of the invasion of Iwo Jima on the USS merchant marine ship that's down there in Long Beach. I can't remember the name of the fucking boat. Anyway, and they literally took it out and sailed it around to Catalina. We were out in the Pacific Ocean, sail around a boat with a bunch of extras. It was a lot of dialogue. And I had just done a lot of dialogue for David Mamet the day before on my TV show, The Unit. so I was like double duty with two monologues and I was a little concerned that

fuck man can you do this well some of the other stuff was bleeding into some of the other stuff and I was starting to get confused because there was some numbers and there was some you know what I mean right are you an actor yeah what is your job what the fuck is he is an engineer he's a comedian I'm just kidding

what are you doing Ryan so uh we are we're out there doing that thing and we're doing the scene and uh and and and he's literally had the cameras back and I'm rehearsing like crazy I got a blackboard where they were going to shoot the scene and I'm kind of like referencing and I'm kind of running the lines and kind of and there's all these extras and reasons fuck dude I had a real that was probably the most anxious I've ever been but I bet you he relaxed you well I was

doing it you know the Alexander techniques and breathing and you know breathe with your asshole and you know you got to kind of breathe through your feet and you got to squeeze your butt cheeks i'm doing it now you gotta think of all you gotta do all that shit you really do yeah yeah and you're sucking it in and you're kind of going oh and it's exhausting you're exhausting but end of those days when you're nervous or when you're going through all that stuff the exhaustion just piles up oh man it's the worst piles on and you and these young actors like uh paul walker and all these guys are looking at you like yeah these guys are the fucking facts man they know what the fuck they're doing you're like yeah well and i i did go up

The second take. But anyway, the first take, the first take we got through was flawless and they applauded. And there was two cameras far back. And then Clint moved him up. And then he did come up to him. And finally, now he's walking. I've never really met him. And he goes, he says to me and Neil, he goes, yeah, I've never really been able to do those monologues like that.

I really admire you guys for, wow. That's not easy. You did a nice job. It was that kind of thing. That's awesome. It was really, really cool. It was self-deprecating. I admire you for that.

A quick joke, and I know I'm taking a lot of time. No, we're almost done. I'm going to ask you these other questions, and we're done. Quick joke about, not joke, but quick, funny story about Clint. Second film I did with him, Trouble with the Curve, he's an actor. I'm his boss. I own the, I'm the general manager of Land of Braves. He's one of my scouts.

Matthew Lillard is a new scout who's all about tech. Gus is old school. It's all about gut. Right? Amy Adams, John Goodman, Matthew Lillers. Clinties would seen in a conference room trouble with the curve I'm doing dialogue

and I have a bit of dialogue where I say in a slight Georgian accent well how about you guess you own extension on your contract now whatever I said or however I said it it was funny to him and it's I'm pretty sure that was a line

that I just gave it and it was funny to him and it got to be every time I did that line you own an extension on your contract he would laugh he would laugh and he had a big monologue and I watched him work with the script girl

like run the line and he never got it the same way twice he got it but he never got it the same way twice but it was good enough good enough yeah so the camera's coming around on me and everybody's got a little part to play in this thing and everybody's got a little thing and I got my thing and now they're doing my coverage

and he is now and I don't know if it's from relief of doing the monologue and he's the pressure's off him right he starts laughing and giggling the the giggles we don't want to have that we get sometimes

oh yeah can't stop him you can't stop yeah and he can't stop is it making you laugh it's well dude it's Clint Eastwood fucking Eastwood bro and you're sitting you're looking at him going like you got to be kidding me now i'm getting pissed yeah because my

fucking coverage and it's and i'm going like and now i'm preoccupied with if he's he going to start giggling off camera now that's what you're thinking about you're not even thinking of your line so now i literally have to say to him and he's not the director are you going to fuck you can't do that shit on my close-up for fuck's sake seriously you gotta I mean it's coming around I mean and I'm laughing too but right right right this is crazy what did he say he's giggling he can't help

I'm sorry I'm sorry he wasn't even saying it's not your it's my fault my fault Michael I swear to you I'm not making this up he's he's giggling so bad he's his eyes are watering he's crying and his guys are looking at me

and they're going it's kind of a big deal and his guys are looking at me going like I haven't seen him lose it like that in 25 years. Wow. Ask Lillard. That is, I will ask Lillard. He'll tell you. He'll tell you.

I love that. It was funny as, it was funny as him. You'll never forget that. Never forget that. And I love working with Clint, and I hope I get to work with him again. Yeah. And if he hears this, I love him.

I think he's a great guy. He's great. He always had lunch with me. And I, and me being all the other actors that were all, we were there working that day and that's bruce springsteen my theme song i like that treat baby no surrender oh that's a good song thank you very much hey this is it shit talking with robert patrick i love these are my patrons am i loud in these cans man no you're awesome you sound great we would tell you Ryan not Rudy Rudy Rudy that's your new nickname

Hashtag Rudy Hashtag Rudy. Ryan, I don't know where I got that. Rudy. Hey, talk about intimidate. He's giving me this stink guy. I got a lot of connections to the name, Rudy. But that's a couple of comes from.

Ryan, I apologize. That's all right. My nephew's name is Ryan. I don't know where Rudy is. My grandfather's Rudy. I got my best friend named Rudy. And a great movie, Rudy. I was a tiny football player, too.

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it's rapid but you don't you can take your time on some questions max kennard gangster squad really that's the one character i like how focused you are for rapid fire no i'm looking at uh linda blair from the exorcist i'm sorry this is rapid fire but dude i got some shit i got a long fucking career no scratch that max kennard is not right john dogg at x files really yeah that's the character i love the most oh that's a great character yeah i love john dog in. Claudine.

What was it like coming in? She's not even Australian. What is it like coming into such a popular show? Like the X-Files in the eighth season, was it hard to find your place in the show? No. Why? Because. Because why?

Chris Carter wrote such a great role. Raj. What was your way into the role of Augie Smith and Peacemaker? Any interesting research you had to do to prepare? Yes. Would you do? I just listened to the news. you just listen to the news correct okay I love this Danny I love you Michael I want to do

another one of these you have to this is a blast Danny when Robert pops up in Wayne's world I remember the whole movie theater just screaming was he proud to have created a character so iconic that T1 would be instantly recognized even in a different genre that was part of how I started to realize that it was such an iconic role that was when it started to dawn on me. When Michael, what's his name that does Saturday Night Myers? No. Yeah, Mike Myers. No, the guy, the producer. Lauren. Lauren. Michael. Yeah. When he insisted to Mike Myers that I play the cop and Mike Myers was resistant and didn't want me to play the cop. But when Lauren Michaels insisted and had me play

the cop and it got such a big laugh, probably the biggest laugh in the movie. And I'm sitting next Next to Penelope's Farris in the Chinese Man Theater, and we're both kind of like it. She goes, she leans over and goes, I think you've got the biggest laugh in the film. How about that, huh? Pretty good. Pretty damn good.

Ben J., everybody loves Copeland. What are your memories from working with the superb ensemble, cast, and director James Mangold? You remember the story I was telling you about the actors? Yeah, which one? Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Not easy.

James Mangold is one of the most talented directors, writers in the business. And I think about this incredible filmmaker. Yeah. He cast you again, didn't he walk the line? I love James. I can't wait to work with him again because he's another one. He's a gym. He's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, mangoe likes to rehearse a little bit more.

more but he's kind of he's such a i love mingle what was it like working with walking phoenix by the way i love walkie was he very he's one of the sweetest guys really one of the sweetest men i've ever been around love him dearly seriously i love that last question yes sir jennifer r what is it like being a part or face of cgii history between t-1 thousand and Jurassic park the 90s were amazing well i'm very proud to be the first motion capture actor in the history of film you are i know i didn't realize that until steve spaz williams there's a documentary out right now yes let's plug it it's called spas isn't he the one that really created all the stuff he is the visual and then he like

lost his career for a while then check the documentary yeah it's called spas do you know him yes what a great he was he reminded me he said robert you're the first motion capture actor in the history of film when we were doing his documentary about him you're the first guy it was my idea to paint the grid on you remember before they used to when they did the film when edison was doing the films of they wanted to see if a horse ever left the earth and they painted the squares on the grid and they had the horse running in front of the grid yep well steve very sensibly said i'm going to put the grid on him and then film him and that'll be the three dimension i need to fit into the computer wow he thought about that he was the one he thought about i mean dude

brilliant one of those guys you're around and you just look at and go like my god like what do you talk about with a guy like that smart you talk to him what you talk to me about yeah i will this has been a real joy you're a great guy i look forward to working with you let's act well let's do it let's do get me in the peacemaker i already told james i want to be in the peacemaker james gun if you listen to I go, I'm going to tell you right now, he'd be fantastic. Yes, sir. James, you hear that? I would love to see him.

I love to have him up there and work with us. Hopefully I get to work, because I am dead. Well, you're dead, but there's the ghost. That's true. There's things that are happening. And to be honest with you, I'm looking more, you know, when you're talking about the fun, I think that this could be the funniest stuff ever with the dead as the ghost. I love it.

I mean, in my own mind, I'm trying to think of the scenarios James is going to come up with. And there's a lot he could do. Oh, yeah. It's unlimited. it yeah because i'm a fucking ghost i'm a fucking ghost dude i love it you are goes hey thank you i'm going to see you at the wedding yes i'm going to be there i'm going to be there however let's put out a little caveat yeah schedule permitting schedule permitting like if i got a job if i'm you got to take a job i love this this is great for all of you people who live in the southern

california this saturday a single when is this air uh i don't know yet single to miles this weekend and out at Harley Davidson of Santa Clarita we're going to have tacos and free soft drink yeah head out to his Harley Davidson of Santa Clarita we've got Harley Davidson's and tacos if you're about Harley Davidson you got to go to Robert Patrick for the best I love it the Harley Davidson experience in Southern California that's Harley Davidson of Santa Clarita where can people follow you on Twitter follow me at Robert Patrick T2 and what about Instagram rip fighter one one Rip fire.

All right. We're going to hang out. I like this guy. All right. He's a blast. All right. Thanks for coming. Bye.

Bye. That was really enjoyable. He was, uh, he kind of speaks his mind, let's just say. He does. He does. And I really appreciate that. Blanche, come on. Hey, come on.

Come on. Come on. Out. Good girl. Blanche is still weather. She's been hanging out. She just can't get enough. She probably has to go pee.

But, uh, that can wait. Uh, he was a great guest. I really appreciate having on you. on the show, Patrick. Thanks for coming on. Don't forget to tune in to Talkville every Wednesday. And that's the new rewatch podcast. And I think you guys are going to really like it. The first episode, a lot of people wrote in and really appreciated it and loved it. And the fans are calling in. And it's just a, it's a collaborative effort. And I'm having a lot of fun. So there's that. Also go to patreon.com slash inside of you to become a patron. Top tiers, get all sorts of perks.

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