Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - PETER FACINELLI: ‘On Fire’ Struggles, Family Over Career & Nurse Jackie Lessons

Episode Date: November 14, 2023

Peter Facinelli (Twilight, Nurse Jackie) joins us this week to share the crazy experience of going from the lead actor to director in ON FIRE. Peter explores the importance of this new film in paying respect to first responders while also paving a way in the current film industry. We also talk about lessons learned through his tenure on Nurse Jackie, how his parents prioritize his happiness over fame, and the importance of flexibility in creative performance. Thank you to our sponsors: ❤️ Betterhelp: https://betterhelp.com/inside 🧠 Neurohacker: https://neurohacker.com/inside 😌 Nutrisense: https://nutrisense.com/inside 🚀 Rocket Money: https://rocketmoney.com/inside 🟠 Discover: https://discvr.co/3Cnb1V8 🏈 PrizePicks: https://prizepicks.com/inside __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou 👕 Inside Of You Merch: https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🤣 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod 🌐 Website: https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Just a solid dude. I had no idea. But I think you're going to really enjoy this one. I hope you do. And you'll let me know what you think after. So why don't we just do it right? Why don't we get inside of Peter Fatschinelli? It's my point of you.

You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. Yeah, actors are really funny because they're like, I just want to get on a show. If I could just get on a show it lasts like 10 years. And then when they get on a show, it's like prison. It is a little like going to jail because you're working. 12 hours a day and you don't get much of a life so like people don't realize like you be careful what you wish for because when you get on a show like and you're you know one of top one two or

three on the call sheet oh your life's down that that that becomes your life like like you get in and on the weekends you're so tired but you're learning lines for the next week so like you never really have a day off it's perpetual stress is yeah you're not i don't know stress is just like you don't get to live life because you your life becomes that character in that show and then and you have very few moments for yourself you know what I mean yeah but don't you think that if you're constantly learning lines if you have this responsibility if there's always a pressure on you to look good to be rested to perform to you know it's like imagine it to me it's like sex it's like you you're we have to perform you know you have to

and if it doesn't work then everybody's disappointed and so there is a story. that I feel like, if you're on a show for seven, 10 years, that at least I did, I always carry that. I have to be good. I have to know my lines. I have to. I'm always, I'm hanging out with my friends. I'm like, oh, two days I film. There's pressure. There's pressure. You know? Like, you're always thinking, like, I got to know my lines for Monday. So if you're doing something on Saturday, like, you're never relaxing. You never really, you don't relax until that series over. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe you, maybe you're different. You see more laid back than I am. Like, you, you could deal with the pressure. I haven't done the show. I mean, I mean, I

I did a show for seven years, but I wasn't like... Was it about the opposite of a doctor? There was some doctors and stuff and hospital stuff. But I wasn't number one on the call sheets. So like, and it was more of an ensemble and it was a half hour. So we only filmed five-day episodes. It was kind of, it was really lovely, actually. It was perfect because, like, I went in and I had, you know,

wonderful actors to work with. I really enjoyed working with them. it was just enough where I had some days off and like I could fly it shot in New York so I could fly home on the weekends um the life and see my kids so it was a good balance so I could see you know but if you were number one or two I did do a series I was number one on and it only went a year but and we did like 22 episodes and and that's a lot because 10 months out of the year you're on set like 12 hours a day it sounds like oh boohoo us but like it's it's not glamour it's not it's not red carpet it's definitely like i mean people taking care of you you know you're hungry

you need a coke i can get you a coke and you know so so it's not like that's because you don't have time to do it you don't have time to do it it's it's basically that if you're like no i'll get my own cooking no no no no no go on set we need you on set uh but uh yeah but i didn't have to do that i didn't do that series in particular for seven and i and even though it would have been nice to get like one more year out of that like i i was careful after that to to like choose like I remember getting an offer for a series and it shot it was 22 episodes and like and it was a straight offer and it was wonderful good when you get a straight offer right yeah and but it shot in Chicago and I thought okay I had the same thing yeah and I thought

okay so I have kids and if I take this series in Chicago I'm not going to see them for 10 months out of the year because it's like I'm number one on the call sheet I won't be able to fly home on the weekends right and uh and And they're not going to come to Chicago because my kids were all in school in L.A. So then like 10 months out of the year, I'm just like, I'm not going to see them. And then as an actor, you're like, best case scenario, this goes seven years. So I won't see my family for what, seven years? And then they're going to be grown up and I'll have a ton of money, but I won't have had the time with them.

So then it became like, I said no. And then they came back with more money. And then I said no, again. And then my agent was like, no, take the money. And I was like, I can't because like, they were like, they were like, they were throwing ridiculous, the more you say no, that's like an apprehendia. Only if you mean it.

Yeah. Never say no if you're trying to get something. Yeah, if you kind of get something, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. You have to really, like, they smell it out, you know. Oh, yeah, like, I don't want to do it. Yeah. Well, what's it going to cost us?

Yeah. Nothing. Yeah. Yeah. And then it came back with more and more. And then I was just like, I can't. And I didn't do it. And it lasted maybe that series only lasted like five or six episodes not canceled.

So, so honestly, like, I'm glad I didn't do it because it would have been a canceled series under your belly. You don't want to have too many canceled series under your belt. So, like, you know, so it was good that I didn't do it. But I also was like, best case scenario goes seven years, but I'm not going to be happy. I have a lot, ton of money, but then I won't. There's no, there's no way anybody can be happy doing 10 months a year for seven years. It's, it's unless, here's the thing.

When you're younger, you can do this. Yeah. You have the ability because your body, it's more, you just last longer. You have more time, too, because if you're 22, And you get out of the series of 28, 29. You're still young. You still got a career. You get in a series when you're 50.

Yeah. And you're 58. Double ARP is calling you. Yeah. Then you just got to like go retire. That's pretty much. Maybe. That's it.

I'm getting those letters now from the AARP. Do you get those yet? Not yet. But I'm close. Should I write back? If we can get on the cover together, let's do it. Could you imagine? That would be great.

Let's do a commercial. That would be a hey. Yeah. That would be kind of cool. Do you, have you always been one to learn your lines quickly? Do you, can you shut it off? Can you just fall asleep? Did you ever, did you ever feel anxiety?

Did you ever get that kind of stuff when you were working? It's painful all the time. Like, like, I wish I had a photographic memory. Me too. I do not. It takes me like three days at least to memorize stuff. I mean, when you're doing a series, your brain starts to pick it up quicker. For sure.

It definitely helps, but if you're like, it's like, it's a muscle. So like between jobs, if you have two months off, three months off, and then you have like a chunk of dialogue, like it's stressful to, because it's pressurey and you want to know and you want to, now, the more you get comfortable with my character, the more I feel more with my character, more I'm like, okay, I can, I can make them say anything and like, it's easier to learn the dialogue when you, but when you're first, get that, you know, first day on set and you're always like, I hope I don't have like five pages of dialogue. it's just so nerve-wracking because you don't want to be the one that's like can i say shitting the

bed have you ever shit the bad um you know early on in my career i had a movie that i did and it was a big movie it was like 60 million dollars i was like the the main antagonist working with like name actors you could say their names right uh yeah i could say they're new i was working with uh angela bassett uh i was working with lou dyn phillips was working with um James Spader Oh yeah And so like And I was like the main bad guy in this movie

And it was a big director Walter Hill was directed And and And warriors Yeah warriors So so I had like the first week off Because my character comes in on page like 10 or whatever So they were shooting like the first week

Without me And so I was like you know what I've got this I know I've got this huge monologue coming up And I'm gonna crush it So I'm memorizing this monologue for this you know the whole time i'm like cramming it it's like five pages of backstory where they're like interrogating me and it's just me talking like it's like and then what happened and then chung chung

chung chung and then and so this and then chung down so i and i knew it backwards and forwards like and i was so like going to crush the night before we show no don't say they change lines on you my my machine goes starts to go off and i get a and no it's like hey we rewrote the scene and it's completely different. And now it's like seven pages of like... The night before? The night before. Oh, gosh.

Literally the night. And it was like 11 o'clock. And I had like a five o'clock. I would have said, honestly, I'm not doing it. I honestly just can't do that. If you give me an airwick and feed me the fucking lines, I'll do it. Yeah, it was, it was terrified. Because now I'm like, oh, God.

Like, so I'm up like, you know, I'm looking at it. And it's like not similar. It's different, you know? So I get to set and it was a train wreck. It was like, every. actors are worst nightmare. Like, I still get anxiety when I think about it. Because I was like half in the old monologue and half in the new one. So I would start the new one and then go and start to go into the old one and then go, no. And it was so bad that I was like, I'm getting to get fired.

There's no way that I'm not going to get fired. So they, so Walter was really cool. He was like, look, he knew I was struggling. So he put, he did all the other actors coverage first, right? And I was still struggling by the end of the day. And, uh, because you're tired. Now you really now I'm exhausted and like I've got again like half of one model and so so at the end of the day he was like look I'm not going to shoot your stuff today just learn it so I know I threw it out at your last minute just just so I went home that night and I crammed it like crammed it they shot it the next day shot the next day and you nailed it the next day but but the day of I was like oh I'm getting fired it's my first day oh gosh it's terrifying

actors that have been shooting already for a week. And then you feel like they're looking at you like, oh. They're looking at me like, you're shitting the bed. And like, and you're like, guys, I just got this. Yeah. I just got it. No one cares. Nobody cares.

That happened to me once where they threw out a scene. They go, hey, we wrote this scene. We added it to another episode, the day of. And we're, we're going to shoot it today after lunch. And just my nerves wouldn't let me memorize the lines. Yeah. I was just already freaking out. And so when I got there, it was just like, I remember just,

doing like maybe two lines and then going line and then they feed it to me and then I'd just do it. But at least you were on a show so like people knew like hey he could act like you know imagine being first day on a huge studio

movie with like big name actors and I wasn't a name yet I think it was like my second movie and that's the worst thing I've ever heard and I'm like oh god this is like you know all of a sudden you're playing like high school baseball now you're in major leagues and you're tanked

You know what I mean? So I was definitely thought, I'm getting fired. There's no way I'm not getting fired. I would have rather shit my pants in front of those actors. I would have rather shit my pants in front of Angela Bassett. I mean, it's pretty much the same feeling of like, because they didn't look at me like, oh, God, I feel sorry for you. They looked at me like, what are you doing here?

You don't belong here. Like, I felt bad. It wasn't, and maybe that was me perceiving it. Like, obviously they're not looking at me like the, but I'm looking at it. Like, they're looking at me like, you don't belong here, kid. Like, you're not cutting the mustard and like, we're crushing it. what do you do you know because i just couldn't finish sentences because i was starting one sentence going no i starting the next sentence with the old monologue it was so confusing to me and it was

because i overprepped and so now like i don't really memorize too early because i know that like what i don't want that to ever happen again where it gets cemented uh so i'll try not to memorize uh until like a couple of days out inside of you is brought to you by Rocket Money. I'm going to speak to you about something that's going to help you save money. Period. It's Rocket Money. It's a personal finance app that helps find and cancel your unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending, and helps lower your bills so you can grow your savings. This is just a wonderful app. There's a lot of apps out there that really you have to do this and pay for and that. But with Rocket Money, they're saving you money. You're getting this app to save money. I don't know how many times. that I've had these unwanted subscriptions that I thought I canceled or I forgot to, you know, the free trial ran out, Ryan. I know you did it. That's why you got rocket money.

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it's just knowing your lines has always been nerve-wracking to me because it's like taking a test yeah and i don't do good with tests yeah i don't do don't do well under pressure when i know it and i'm confident yeah i'm awesome i love by day three of filming like and you know you've already established okay i feel like the character you're getting into a rhythm you know then you don't there's less pressure on you you know so like but but when your first couple of days and you're working with new people it's a new day at school and everyone's looking at you it's tough like and i think everyone's trying to find their feet on the first few days too so it's just tough for everybody i mean it's it's a weird job because we're always you know it's always changing and i love that about it but i also

like you know there's there must be some having the familiarity of of being on a series for a while also is comforting in some ways too i would i would think i don't know i i don't know i Like I said, the one that I did do, it was more on ensemble. So I was less. But even then, like, when there was big chunks of dialogue, it's a little pressurey. Because you don't have time. They don't have time. They're always racing a clock, you know.

I'll tell you what was an interesting experience. I just shot a movie. I'm allowed to talk about it on fire. Which I just saw. Yeah. And I promised you I watched it. Yeah. And I liked it a lot.

I was telling you, you know, on the way over here, I thought, I wonder if you watched it. because I was like, you know, you talk to people all the time. I wasn't going to watch it. Yeah. I was like, I don't have time for this shit. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Like, honestly, like, if I was meeting people, you're doing three or four of these a day.

You're like, I got to want it. It's almost like homework. Movies should be like, I want to sit back and watch a movie. Have some corn. It's harder to watch movies I find nowadays. Like, even my own movie. Like, I think it's because. There's so much.

It's, well, also it's a time commitment, right? Like, it's a, there's so much content out there. But, like, we're so used to get. things in short spurts that like you know to sit down and go okay i'm going to commit to an hour and a half or two hours is harder because when you have content on your phone that's giving you two minutes here two minutes there and then you can do something and two minutes there two minutes and so now like i like going to the theater because like everything shut off yeah but if i'm at home you're distracted i'll say you know what i'm going to start this movie and then i'll go but then i have to like

really commit to this for two i don't have to i know you got kids you got this you got to go back So I want to start this now and like, it's harder. It is. That's why I have movie nights on Tuesday night where we're forced to watch a movie. Yeah. It's me and my horror movie buddies. Well, I was impressed that you actually watched it. So when I was doing on fire, the director ended up getting COVID and I ended up having to take over directing it.

Unbelievable. And, uh, so you produced it. You co-directed it. Yeah. Yeah. And started it. Well, I originally was just going to star in it. Right.

You know, they were like, hey, this movie, do you want to come out? And I thought, well, this is a good premise. And there's a lot of fires in the world right now. And this is, this movie kind of shows you what people go through, you know. And so I like that aspect of it. And I wasn't a producer on it either. Until you. Until I came on.

And then there were things that they were like, hey, would you produce it? Because there's things that we could use your help on. And I was like, okay. And then the director got sick. And then they were like, hey, would you just take over for tonight? And then they were like, we can't shut down when you just finish. I was like, yeah. And then it was good because when I was in post and I was able to like have more say,

which is always great because as an actor. It's more fun. More creative. Yeah, it's more creative. And so many times as an actor, I'm sure you know too, like we give over our work and we think, oh, I feel like this is going to be a good one. And then you get disappointed because you don't have any say in like the rhythm of the movie or how they, how they put it together.

or your performance and you're like I know I gave them better stuff than that you know what I mean so like when I saw the cut you know I was able to say well let's let's try this or let's these performances can be better and you know jumped into the editing room and shaped it and you know the whole ending we shot because the original ending just didn't feel it felt like it fell flat you know so so this ending that you saw was completely yeah completely reshot and then became more of a tribute two firefighters and first responders that whole sequence wasn't in there you know do the woods yeah the kid right uh and that kid had no you know that who played my son he didn't have any arc so i was like we need an arc so i was able to get way more input into that because i i was

now directing and producing uh so it's called on fire yeah it's available on video on demand digital release film november 14th so it's gonna be right around here guys so you got to check this out because what i and continue but i just wanted to say that what I liked about it is that the characters were all really well thought out. It wasn't like, I mean, you immediately care about them. You've got this old man, your father played by Lance Henrickson, who I love a man. He was just a legend. And like, it's not just this, you know, angry old guy.

It's like this emotional guy who just wants to be with his wife who passed away. And like some of those scenes are so emotional. He just wants to smoke and says, screw it. This is my life. Let me just, you know, let me go. And this whole time you're trying to hang on to them. You're trying to, you know, and your wife in the movie is so solid. Fiona Dura.

She's great. She's great. She's so strong. She's pregnant. She's the strong character. So all the characters are really strong or develop. And I saw that. And I liked the, even the CGI with the fires.

I was like, I was looking and it looked really good. Yeah. Because when I started that, when I came on, when I got the set, Nick, Nick Lyon, who directed it alongside with it. me. He started out as the main director. And he, when I came on, he were like, oh, we're not using any fire, you know, at all. Like, we're going to do all CGI. And I thought, oh, this better be good or it's going to be bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so then when we got into the editing room, you know, we had this great, um, CGI artist, uh, Joe Lawson, and we just kept pushing him. You know, he'd come back with stuff. He'd still a little, and keep going back, had shapes and shades of life. And he did such a great job. Like now we have like stock footage stuff and we have. And we have. have CGI stuff. I can't tell the difference sometimes, which one is real. I'm just like the smoke going in,

you're driving, the smoke that go in and out of stuff. Yeah. That was really cool. Thank you. So when I took over as director for that, it was interesting because, you know, when I'm an actor, there's a part of me that really wants to please the director all the time. Of course.

Because you're there to service their stories. So, like, you know, you finish a take and you're always immediately, like, look to them, like, not of approval. Do they like it? Am I way off? Like, you know. Is it too big, too small? And, you know, you and I have been doing this for a long time.

So there's part of us that knows, like, what feels right, what doesn't. But you always are looking straight to that director and catching their eye and they're like thumbs up and, you know, can I try it different? Like, what else could I do? What else do you think? And so what was interesting is I've directed before other actors. I love actors. I love, like, working with them and I love collaborating with them.

And I love because it's such a vulnerable place. Like you just mentioned, like knowing your lines and the. pressure so getting actors to go look you know let's just play you know and and find stuff together and like i think that's appreciated and when i work with directors that are actors like they understand that that that lingo because sometimes you get directors that are just like why you're making that face or you're like what face don't do that don't slow down faster yeah faster moving on and you're just like and it's like cold bedside manner you know so i think that actors appreciate when i work with them because I see everything, you know, every little thing, an eye movement, I'm like, I saw what you

doing. And actors need to be acknowledged for what they're doing. Like, sometimes coddled. Yeah. Sometimes they, different actors need different things. But sometimes you have to be the director comes and goes, hey, you were, that was really good. Yeah. I really liked what you did. Let's do something else. And that because we got that. Yeah. Yeah. Even if it was terrible. You're like, it's good to tell them it was great. Because then they're like, okay, good. I got one on. And then they loosen up. Like a loose actor is a good actor. Why that directors just had gone, but they know me, but they'll be like, Rosenbaum, let's do a better take than that.

Yeah. And I'm like, all right, what do you, all right, gosh. But it shuts you down, like, if someone's, like, making you feel insecure. So you want to make people feel secure because as they're secure and comfortable, they're doing, they're giving you more. They're always going to give you more. So when I work with actors, like, I love being able to make them feel comfortable

because I want to feel comfortable when I'm acting, you know. So, but what was interesting about directing this one, When Nick was sick and I took over, I didn't have that person to look to go, hey, that was good or bad. Like, it was me. You know what I mean? So, you know, and it was so much more freeing in that sense because I was like, okay, I know what I need to get. I know what the scene's about. Inside you is brought to you by Rocket Money.

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Well, we dive into the twisted, the terrifying, and the true stories behind some of the world's most chilling crimes. Hi, I'm Ben. And I'm Nicole. Together we host Wicked and Grim, a true crime podcast that unpacks real-life horrors one case at a time. With deep research, dark storytelling and the occasional drink to take the edge off we're here to explore the wicked and reveal the grim we are wicked and grim follow and listen on your favorite podcast platform you don't worry about you as much and i'm not worried about me yeah i did the same thing and then it became more about like i need to give to the other actors because i need them to be good for this so i came i became such like so much more of a giving actor because it was it wasn't about like service how was i

It was about like I have to give as much as I can to get that other actor to give me more and so it became about giving all the time. Yeah. And I'm like, I want to take that into my next stuff. Yeah, but I'll say that I remember when I was directing this film and I was the lead in it and the editor called me up after and he goes, hey bud, I go, hey, how's going? He was like, uh, there was something wrong. Did you see the dailies? Yeah, yeah, nothing's wrong. but you're the lead role.

You need to give yourself more takes. And I'm like, why am I not good? He's like, no, it's not that. It's just like, I want you to, I know how you are. You want to give to everybody else. But remember, you need to give yourself the options and things in the editing room. And I go, all. And so did you think about that at all?

Did someone say that to you? No, but I had directed a movie before this one that I wrote and directed. And I did that on that because I played a smaller role in that one. And, and, yeah, because when you're, I, I mean, exhausted, I almost died. Well, no one knows that, but I felt like it. I played a smaller role in that one because I didn't, I wanted to be able to get, you know, focus on directing.

But when I did have to come into work, because I was like, oh, I'll play the smaller role, so it's fun, you know, everyone else is going to be having fun of. I'll have the smaller role. But it was like a pain in the ass because it was like, I got to put my costume on. I got hair and makeup. I want to be by the crew in the set, setting up the camera. And now I'm sitting hair and makeup like dying because I want to be on set. Yeah.

And then I get there. and it became like that like okay let me just race through my stuff because i got to get to their coverage and i got to get and i got and so i learned on that one not that i was bad and that i don't think i was man uh but it was like i i learned in that one like okay i i have to also give yourself options but i haven't i had a good producer friend of mine on on fire too and he also direct so i would look at him he had your back he had my bag and i would look to him and go hey that cool yeah and it wasn't in the way of like was that good do you want something else it was just like hey it was just a confirmation like that felt good to me yeah you know my best friend tom was not an actor not in the business

he he would be off camera and go yeah yeah yeah yeah that's all i need you kind of need that otherwise you're running to the monitors watching i'm not i don't have time i never watched a scene with me in it i never let let them go back roll back yeah because you just don't have the time to sit there i mean you're literally racing a clock it's literally a race every day But I love the adrenaline rush. You love the race. I actually really enjoy directing. I think I've always been a-

I could tell. I think I've been a more frustrated. I think I've always been a frustrated director who acted. Because like, I mean, even when I was acting, it was always like, I feel like that this should be shaped differently. Or like, I wish you would put the camera over there. And I'd have all these ideas. And I was like, you have to be careful because you never want to like,

you know, step on director's toes. But I'd always be like, what? what would happen if you did that? And then sometimes they'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm going to steal that. Yeah, there's a way to do it. There's a way to do it. You got to be like, you know,

because Paul and Terry, Chaz Palman Terry, I did this movie with him. It was a first time director. And he goes, what are we doing? And the director would say, I'm going to move the camera over here and I'm going to get this cool shot. It's going to go, like,

it's going to move through here and go through here. He goes, all right, you'll never use it, but do what you want. That's what he would say to him. but yeah it is it is a delicate balance you have to really be respectful because and i'm overly respectful with directors because it's like i never want somebody telling me but i'm the type of guy's like look i'll take a good idea from anyway craft service guys like hey would you try this and it works i'd be like yeah i always say that too if you have a good idea i'll do it doesn't matter

just don't bombard me with those things so don't feel like now it's this open door policy yeah but by the way i will say one more thing about um on fire which you guys got to see november 14th on video In Demand and Digital Release. Can we just talk about Jacob for a second? Yeah. The character Jacob, small character that you meet with, like when you're on your way to save. I'm not going to give anything away, but, you know, save someone. And this random guy who's so emotional in the midst of this fire and his performance

and just like both of you guys together, I thought that was one of the best scenes of the movie. Thank you, man. You know what I'm talking about that? I directed that night and I was really excited to work with that actor because he was brought a lot of stuff. And I was like... Oh, my guy, so emotional. And at first, it wasn't like, it was kind of like safe and I was like, try this, try this. And then it got to that.

And then it was one of those nights that you felt like, okay, I really helped shape that and make him comfortable enough. Because a lot of times, you know, if he came with that, he might have thought, oh, well, is this too bit. But giving him the space to actually work in that and then get him there. And I really like that scene, too. In the original cut, it wasn't in it. And I was like, no, we need to put that back in because it's a scene where I meet this guy on the road. And I'm not giving too much away, but he ends up coming out of the woods. And I'm driving to find my family.

And he needs a ride back, you know, home because his, you know, house just burned down. He's very emotional. And I'm like, okay, I just have to go and get my family. And then we'll go back to the town. and he turns from like help me to know to helping me instead of asking for help he's actually giving me help and he's going no no you can't go that way because you're going to die and I'm like I have to go that way and it becomes almost like an argument he's like you're not listening to me you can't go that way because he's seen what's in the abyss right yeah he's like you can't

go there yeah because he's so emotional it's like oh my god and and then it makes my character like, like you root for him because now he's doing something heroic where he knows, oh my God, wherever I'm going, it's going to be bad, but I, I'm going anyway. And he sees it in your eyes. Yeah. You didn't have to even say much. You just like said, I have to do this. Yeah.

And he looks at you go. And he says, what's your name? Yeah, he says, I'll pray for you. And it's like, all of a sudden it comes from a place of like, please help me out. My house burned down to, oh, my God, you're screwed. You're going to die. You're going to die. I'm going to pray for you.

And then the tables get turned And it wasn't really written that way Like we got it there You know what that was? That was humanity It was like how humanity should be That's what it should be like People helping each other

Yeah And it was just And you can see the trauma That he went through You know what I mean Just by the his The way he was playing that scene It was like such a traumatic event

He was just coming from And knowing that I was gonna go into that traumatic event He was trying to like stop me but my family was in there so I have to keep going and then it's like we're only like 10, 15 minutes in and you're already as an audience member going

okay, this guy's doing something heroic I'm gonna follow him my character because he's like putting his life on the line to anyways. You know what I mean? Hey, when was the first time like your parents said our son's made it? Now I feel comfortable

in saying our son's doing it. He's made it. Like when was, you know, because your parents were probably, you know, your dad was a waiter. Yeah, he was a waiter. And your mom was just a homemaker? A housewife, yeah. And so when you wanted to be an actor, was it something so foreign to them? They're like, what are you doing? Yeah, I mean, I, I kind of had to trick them into it because, like, I, when I was younger, I was like, I was really shy when I was younger, like, super shy. Like, so shy that in high school, I was too shy to get in on the lunch line because I was like, well, what if, like I drop my tray or what if like something happens every the whole cafeteria you know in those

movies where something happens the whole you got a rip in your pants and the whole cafeteria is looking at you I would I would die right and I went to school like 3,500 kids like there was a lot so it was intimidating to like grab your tray get on a lunch line giant jocks next to you and like and uh and so for the first three years I like ate a pretzel in the back of the room and grabbed an orange like there was a little lady that on the opposite side sold pretzels And while everybody was getting hamburgers and pizza, I went to the lady, grabbed the pretzel and an orange juice and sat down. And it was like a wallflower, yeah.

So it wasn't like I was like a theater kid that was like, look at me. You know, and I, and no confidence. Well, yeah, and it wasn't theatrical on it, it never did a play. So I remember telling my parents, because I saw Butch Cassidy and Sundance kid. And I was like, those guys look like they're having fun, you know, I want to do that. Because when you're 12, you're like, you don't know what, you're just like, oh, I could do that. That looks like fun.

And so I told my parents, I was like, yeah, I want to be an actor. And they laughed because they're like this shy kid. Also, they're from Italy and I'm first generation American. So, like, they don't, we don't, we knew nobody in the business. Like, movies were foreign to us. Like, my dad, I think he took me to one movie my whole life. Like, the first movie he took me to was, he wanted, it was funny. It was Indiana Jones came out.

I think I was like 10. And he was like, oh, I'll talk. I want to take it this movie, Indiana Jones. And I didn't know what it was because it said Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. But it sounded like, Raiders of the Lost Arc. It was like, right? Right. And it's, I thought it was like a movie about the Bible about the video because it was like the arc of the covenant.

And I was like, I don't want to see this religious movies. So I cried and was like, I want to see Annie. So my dad took me to see Annie. And he fell asleep and I watched a little orphan Annie. And I was like the first movie ever watched. It was like, I was 10. Because I didn't go to the movies, you know. Yeah.

So telling them I want to be an actor was like, tell them I wanted to go to Mars. It was just like not a thing that was possible. So they laughed and I didn't want to be laughed at. So next time they said, what do you want to be? I said a lawyer. And they were like, oh, a lawyer in the family. My son's going to be a lawyer, you know. So then I kind of convinced myself that's what I would be, you know.

And I went to all through high school and didn't do a play in high school ever. and then I went to college and I went to one year at St. John's University and I studied pre-law you know and then I took like an acting 101 class

and I really liked it because I was so shy it was freeing for me because when I was playing other characters like people don't see me they see these other people I could do anything as a character right?

It's always that acting 101 yeah acting 101 And so then I met this guy and he was like a manager and I was trying to get into like modeling a little bit and I was doing like little things here and there. It wasn't like, you know, just to pick up money on the side. And then he said if you want to be an actor, you should really study it. And so he helped me transfer into NYU to study theater there. and so I told my parents

hey I'm gonna transfer to NYU and I actually auditioned and I got in to the theater program there and they said why are you studying acting? I don't understand and this school's like twice as much as your other school I would. Yeah. I said well as a as a

lawyer you have to stand up in front of people. I'm really shy and acting is required to be a lawyer You're lying to them. Yeah I totally lie. Totally playing that. I see what you're doing. So I said you know you have to stand up in front of people and it's like of doing a play. You have to take acting class

that'll help me be a better lawyer. And they didn't know. So the good thing about my parents was there's parents that like if their kid like shits in a box they're like, look what my kid made. And then there's the other parents that are just like on the other side

like my parents, like my mom never came to a baseball game. You know, my dad took me to like one movie my whole life. Like they just did their thing and I did my thing. And in some ways like it was good because they kind of stayed out of like

I actually had a conversation with my mom the other day. I said, because I had a motorcycle at 19. I was like, did you guys like me? Like, I would never let my, my son get a motorcycle at 19. She was like, oh, no, that's what you wanted to do. I mean, I thought you were crazy, but I was like, you know, that's what it was like they just didn't, they were, they let me be me, which was really kind of wonderful.

But they loved you and they gave you all that stuff. Yeah, and they loved me and it wasn't like. See, that's why it worked. They gave you the love and everything. It wasn't like they were ignoring and abandoning me. They just weren't on top of you. They just weren't on top of me. They weren't helicopter parents.

So, like, when I said I was going into NYU, they were just like, okay, you know, I got a baseball game this weekend. Okay. You know, like, I'm coming home tonight. I'm going out. Okay. You know, like, they didn't. Jeez, I wish that was my parents. They didn't really helicopter pairing me.

Get your ass home. Get your ass out of you. So they were loose in that sense, but in the sense of like, hey, I really think you could make it as an actor. They weren't that either. Right. But they never said, you can't make it as an act. They just were like, he's going to NYU. He's taking acting.

I don't know, you know. They just tested out of it. So then... So I took... I went to NYU and I studied acting. And then I ended up getting an episode, like a guest-starring episode of something. And I was like, hey, I'm going to be on this guest. And I had like the lead, like guest, you know, episode.

What are they called? Lead, lead, guest lead, you know. The lead... Is that what they call? Yeah, guest leads? I don't know. The lead actor and the guest lead on that. It was a soap opera?

It was a... I can't say the show. But it was a show that dealt with a... law and it also dealt with other stuff like order oh like there was order and and there was also like criminal law and criminal stuff and yeah okay gotcha got you and stuff and stuff and so um so i did a show that was my first thing due to the sex strike peter fachinelli can't say the word peep beep yeah so uh it dealt with like judges and laws so i ended up being the lead i guess lead on that show and and my and i and I said, hey, I'm going to be on this series.

And so my parents watched it, and they thought I was going to be like, the guy just kind of like, oh, that's my hand. You see it? You know, or the guy just walked through the door in the back. They were blown away. No, they weren't. They were surprised, but I never got the, I actually never got the, oh, my God, that was amazing.

I can't believe you did that either. They were just, but they weren't like, I think they were just a little shell shot. They're just like, great. You got paid. That's great. They were just like, oh, that's cool. And they really didn't think anything else. I mean, honestly, for the first 20 years of my career, my dad would be like, listen,

if you, if you ever need it, your room, we still have a room for you. Like, like, so I never got, I always got the same thing. I never got the, you know, I think you finally made it, you know, I feel like they're proud of me. But after you did a movie with a bunch of vampires, no, I think that they still.

Come on. No, because here's the thing, they don't understand the world of it. So when I go home, you know, my mom's more interested in like, why aren't you eating? You know what I mean? Eat your pasta is like,

You're getting too skinny, eat this. It's like the blessing of my parents are, they would love me no matter what I did. You know what I mean? The fact that they only care. Don't make me cry now. They only care if I'm happy. Like my mom says, like if something is really successful,

are you happy? Then I'm happy too. She doesn't care if it's successful. As long as I'm happy, they're happy, which is really wonderful. Did they ask you that? Do they ask you? Yeah, they ask you. Are you good?

Yeah, like, I'll be like, hey, I got this. movie gone, are good, are you happy? Yeah, like, good. Yeah, but they're not. They're not enamored. They're not enamored at all. They're not like, it's just like they want you to be happy. And if that makes you happy, that makes them happy. I think the biggest compliment I got was actually recently, because my parents went to see on fire in the movie theater, right, you know, which is nice. We had a great run. We had like 500 theaters for a small movie is a wonderful, you know, run. And so my dad and mom went to see it in the middle of the day. and my dad called me after I said what did you think he goes oh it was great you're better than

Richard gear I was like okay wow because he doesn't know anybody my dad so like he'll always throw out references like you know um John Wayne that's an actor I'm like I can't work like I can never impress them because I'm like I can't work with John Wayne he's dead you know so I remember calling my my dad once I said hey I'm working with um I'm working with Danny Devedo and he goes oh was that the guy in my cousin Vinnie and I was like no that's Joe Pesci. I was like, I talked, all my parents was like, I said, I'm working with Drew Barrymore. And they go, oh, is he nice?

Your father, grandfather, great-grandfather, Barrymore? I don't know. They just don't know anybody or, so they're not, they're not impressed. Well, the same thing happened to me. I was at the Elizabeth Glazer AIDS Foundation event one year, and I took my grandparents with him. And I see George Lucas. and he looks at me and goes and i'm like uh i come here he points at me well and i go guys george lucas is asking me to come over and talk to him she my grandfather goes who's that

let's go talk to the guy from cheers ted dances right over there like it's fucking george lucas they didn't know who he was and he invited me to the ranch all that's up oh my god they just Amazing. You know, they, but you know what's great is, and I'll sort of elaborate what you said. My grandparents, I have letters from my grandfather that would say Michael, Mikey, we just want to say how proud we are of you. And even if you didn't do any of this, you're a good man, you're a good boy. We love you.

And like that meant more to me than anybody ever saying, you were great in the film or you were great in this or just hearing my grandparents just say they love me. I think it's a different, I don't know where your grandparents from, but it's a different generation. Like, they're proud of me when they hear, like, I remember that my parent, I took my parents to a, I was doing that series that I did for like seven years. And the showrunners said to them, your son's a really hard worker. And that stuck with my dad.

See? He's like, you know, when they said you were a hard worker, that made me really proud. Like, like, the show could come and do well and, like, tons of people. Doesn't matter. You work hard. It's like the fact that somebody said as a hard worker, that it made him proud. You know, I think my, I think my father for a long time until I finally just stood up to him one day. But he would say, I think he felt like acting in this industry was a breeze and just, it was cupcakes and people give you whatever you want. You don't do anything and you don't work hard and you don't.

And all he did was work hard. So I think he just didn't. did you guys grow up uh i was born in europe but i grew up in indiana indiana but was your dad like a blue collar oh yeah like just worked his ass off and i think he just didn't respect me and didn't anything and then one day i was like i go you have no idea anything about anything i fucking do you don't know how hard i work you don't know how hard it is you know how much rejection we face you don't know anything you assume it's just and i just stood up to him you know i just it wasn't easy but it was like it was just you're right it's that old school mentality like

he wants to know that you work you work hard for a living you don't just you don't just you know you memorize those monologues you're and and the pressure you're under and the stuff we talked about earlier yeah man at 12 hour day you know how about just love your fucking kids how about just unconditionally i don't care ryan what you do peter whatever you do as long as you're happy like you said my parents my mom's always been like that like is whatever i if i worked at the drive-thru at macdonalds my mom would be would treat me exactly the same. And sometimes I wanted the mom that's like, my son shit in this box, look what he made. I mean, but I know I'm not going to get that. So it's, but I kind of, I think

a lot of part of my career was always like, I'm going to get them to be like, look, you know, look what he made. And then I never really got that. So I let that go. I let it go too. I let it go. Because it became like, you know what, they don't care, but not because they don't care. It's because they care more about me being happy. Yeah. Not about. success success for them is are you happy because and it's true like a lot of and i'm like that with my kids now like i don't care what they do as long as they're happy that's kind of like my philosophy with them you know that's a beautiful thing it's like uh you know um you're a product of your environment no environment and it's like if you had a good upbringing and your parents loved

you that's easier to translate right it's it's hard to go against the grain it's it's shockingly it's It's tougher, I think, to have bad parents and then be a good parent. It's probably easier to have good parents and also you're a good parent. So you have to either break the cycle or it helps. It helps you. Yeah. So it's crazy. But it's amazing how I see some of my friends grow up and the support that they had and the love that they had.

And even if they had no money and they weren't well educated, the love that was there, was just it resonated with me as a little boy looking at other families going you know what she really loves my friend she really loves her son and i remember that and i remember when she tears up when he was going away for college and i remember like certain things that i was like oh i didn't i didn't necessarily get that but i could see it and that's important yeah you know what i mean so anyway sometimes it comes back to me here sometimes i talk about me and I mean I think that's I think that's it's great when you have that you could see that other people and even in this conversation when you're like I could see the love of my parents through

how Peter's parents you know treat you too because it's like it's a different love it's not that I'm going to show up at every baseball game it's like hey did you enjoy yourself to you know what I mean and that's that's that's a good love too yeah no I think it's important I think it's just is just important to just be like I love you whatever you do i'm going to love you don't always try to get my approval just do things because you love them do things because they give you purpose do things because you know they make you happy or whatever it is you have a passion for it it's like you know i it's uh but i think why i don't have kids you're like well i'm 51 you're like so what i'll be i'm 49 i got another kid on the way

Yeah, Pacino and De Niro just, you have a one-year-old. But Pacino and De Niro just had kids there. Yeah, but come on. I think there's something wrong with that. I mean, you may not, but I'm like... I think as a, listen, as a... How old is he, Pacino? I don't know, 70s, 76.

But think about it. When the kid's 10, he doesn't have a dad? Well... 20? I mean, you can enjoy him for as long as you enjoy them, I guess. Whatever makes people happen. Yeah, you're right, you're right. But I do think, like, you could be an older dad.

I was on both ends of the spectrum where I was... was the youngest dad i mean i had kids at 21 was my first kid i was literally like the youngest dad in the kindergarten class you know uh and then and now 27 year old yeah yeah good lord almighty and then i have uh you know now i have a one year old so it's kind of i'm starting over but it's and and so now i'm like on the older end of that spectrum you know uh and most of the dads are in the 30s and 40s And I'm like, all right. But I do feel like, in a lot of ways, kids keep you young because, like, you have to have the energy for them.

But, like, their smile lights up a room. And then all of a sudden it's like, it doesn't matter how your day was. You know, he goes to him, he does a smile or he does some goofy, you know. You're right. But when you find somebody that you want to have kids with, and, like, I wouldn't put an age limit on it, honestly. Like, you know what I mean? If you're in a place where you can, you're with somebody that you love and, and, uh, you're, And you want to have a kid, don't be like, I'm too old.

Like, I don't, I don't think, I don't think that's. I would do it if I could be a stay-at-home dad and the, my wife works. Well, if you could do another movie that you've done, like, another, what's the word, a sequel or a show to go back and, you know how people are always revisiting these things. You can't say the name, but you could kind of, you know, we could figure it out. But would there be a movie that you would be like, I'd revisit that. They've got a cool idea with it. Like, would you revisit the one about the, you know,

Edo Eid Falco? Yeah, 100%. Like, there's, I think all of the roles I've done if they were ever like, would you want to revisit? There's not one role I've done where I'm like, I never want to play that again. Not one. Not one.

And I think the, I've always had this litmus test and it served me well. When I take on a role, I always think to myself, Am I going to be excited on my ride to work? And that's the litmus test I have for like saying yes to. I say the same element of fun. Yeah, because if I have the passion on the way to work and I'm excited on the way to work,

I know I'm going to put everything I have into it. And then I can't control if the movie does well, the TV show does well. But when I look back and someone's like, what was your favorite thing you've ever done? I can honestly say all of them because I've had the same level of passion on the ride to work for each and every one of them.

If someone's like, hey, would you, would you want to revisit that role? Yeah, because I had fun doing it, you know what I mean? Even if it was like, I've done one that's for seven years. It's like, I honestly had fun going to work every day. Even the vampire movie? Yeah. You do it in a heartbeat. An heartbeat.

I mean, I'm probably too old to play now because, like, vampires don't age. But, you can age if you want to, can't you? No, vampires don't. Can you if you don't drink enough blood? I like to get older and then you drink blood. No, I think I, they could change the shit around. they could i think they could i think you look good oh thank you man it's all in the eyes yeah hey this is called shit talking with peter fatchinelli this is my these are my patrons this is just rapid fire

uh and you can answer them these uh patron dot com slash inside of you i couldn't do this show without you thanks for supporting the podcast lian how has being a father made you a better person um it gives me a lot more patience because now when i when i look at people oftentimes when i'm like you know somebody cuts you off or somebody you know rubs you the wrong way i think of them and think they were a child once too and you know what i mean so like i have more compassion for people because i could see their inner child because my kids have good days like my one year old he has great days he has bad days you know and so having the patience for him i i try to bring that into having the patience with a more adult so if someone cuts you off you don't get pissed off i i don't

I mean, to a fault. Wow. Because here's the thing, like, and it's a wonderful thing. But you're part Italian. What the fuck are you doing? No, because when you don't react to them, then it's almost comical because they're like,

they get mad or they get more, and they're waving their hands around. Sometimes I'll wave and smile, like, you know what I mean? And I don't mean to piss them off more. But it's like, you know, if you don't get sucked into somebody else's energy, there's a great quote, If I try to give you a gift and you don't take it, who does it belong to?

It falls back on me, right? So if someone's trying to throw their energy of negativity onto you and you don't take it, it just falls back to them. Words of wisdom. Little Lisa, what has been your biggest challenge this year and what has been your biggest accomplishment this year? The biggest accomplishment was, you know, working really hard on on fire to like get it to a place where it got into 500 theaters and, like,

Like, you know, dedicated to all the survivors and firefighters and rebuilders. Yeah, to help shape that movie into something that people are enjoying. And then being able to, you know, promote it with SAGS, not only approval, but them cheering us on. Because we signed the interim agreement, we, we, I was able to work with the producers to have them agree to pretty much everything we're asking the studios for. So, you know, SAG is actually using us as an example. people, hey, if these smaller producers can sign this agreement, then the bigger studios should too. So like, it feels good to be part of, like, part of me is like, this movie I did was the first movie in theaters under the Saginaorm Agreement. And that to me is like a wonderful feeling

because I'm helping to like my union, you know what I mean? Yeah. To help them in their, their battle. And I talk to them all the time, like, what else can I do? Because I really do believe in what we're fighting for uh but the struggling in that sense this year has been you know because of the strike it's it's been tough because i love being creative and uh and there's less creativity to be had or to work with or to you know jobs to do like you so so then i end up getting um it almost feels like covid again where i'm at home going what can i do uh to like get my creative juices flow and that's a challenge to like you know when you're on set it's it's easier when somebody's like this is where you have to be this is what we're doing this is your lunch and this is

the end of the day and these are the lines they have to learn and there's structure in that and I find it harder when I don't have that structure to structure it for myself you know and so a day could go by and it's just like I didn't do anything today I was like stuck I got sucked into like my Instagram stories and you know and and it's just other things I want to be do and then you kind of procrastinate and like so so the challenge has been trying to uh work that structure for myself i like it i like it bob k elvis or the beetles wow i got to say elvis because i have an elvis pinball machine at home and he's the king but i do like bob and the beetles too you like bob who asked the question no but i thought you meant

Bob Dylan. Oh, no. Bob asked Elvis and the Beatles. He's like, I like Bob too. Like, oh, Nixon will like it. You like Bob? I do like Bob. I do like Bob.

I thought he said Bob or Elvis or the Beatles, as in Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan, the Beatles. But Elvis would have to be my. I'd say the Elvis for sure. Leah and Kristen say, if you could forget a book or a movie and be able to experience it for the first time again, what would you choose? Book or a movie? a book or a movie that's a

I would say would I get the same feeling as when I first saw it because that like if I saw The Shining for the first time now and felt the same scare that I did back then I'd say The Shining or Star Wars Star Wars or Empire Strikes Back I mean the cool thing about Star Wars is now when you get the new Star Wars you get to have that feeling of like oh it feels like the first time watching and then

you know uh because because there's new stories to be told but but i would go with star wars the first one yeah yeah jamming jenny what's your favorite way to relax or unwind after a stressful day uh um smoke some of the reef or do you i mean i don't know this is terrible a little bit, to unwind, sex, sex, I want my, my mind went to like, sex. If that's what it is, why not? If you have sex, it relaxes you? Sex puts me to sleep. Does it?

See, it's relaxing. I mean, during. Yeah. But like, but that's relaxing, no? Absolutely. There's nothing more relaxing than having, uh, what rhymes with foregasm. But then you just immediately, for guys at least, just like, it's, it's, it just, it just, shut you down well if you're having a stressful day too it like takes you out of the stressful day

because you're in the moment yeah of doing something that is feeling good and and also connection and uh you know and and a sharing of love and and then and then at the end it's very relaxing i mean is that terrible no in fact i may not even have that for the patrons i may do that for a question so more people can hear it why not would you relax i like that sex why is that weird yeah how weird Dana asked what's the weirdest gift you've gotten from a fan oh what's the weirdest gift

I don't know if it was a gift but I had a fan one sick well you sign my knickers and I didn't know what knickers were so I was like yeah sure and then she like gave me some underwear and I was like oh I can't sign that that's that's not that's just too weird that's too weird I had someone asked if I

if I'd sign their breast and they did no I did It was a side breast, so I think I did that. Look, you've done so much. We didn't even crack the surface on so many things, but you guys have known all the things he's done. You can look him up. He's got this movie on fire, which I sat down and watched,

really enjoyed. It's an important movie. It's intense. It's emotional. It's also got some comedy to it. I think there's some funny little nuances in there that really made me laugh out loud. Lance especially.

Yeah, Lance is great. It was really cool. The characters were. were well developed. It's on fire November 14th. Video on Demand or digital release. This has been an honor, man. Thanks, man. Did you have fun? I had a really good time. The weird thing is you and I've been around for a long time and we've never really crossed past. I know. I don't think I always liked you. I always liked you. Yeah, me too. I've never really, I don't think we've ever been like at an event at the same. No. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Nope. It's like I thought to myself, like, I've never met Peter. But I always loved your work. I know of you and I know who you are and I know your work and I've felt the same respect and same like oh that's a cool guy and I know we have friends that I think know each other too I'm sure of it so let's go through that list do you know no I'm kidding such a pleasure to actually sit down and chat with you really enjoyed you too man thanks for being here thanks for taking the time good luck on the movie on fire thank you thank you solid solid guy I uh again you know when you watch someone act throughout the years and you're like oh he's got this persona i wonder how he is is he

serious is he and uh he just came across so humble and sweet and uh it was really nice to see just a good dude it's nice when the the business doesn't get you you can't let the business get you oh that old business that old entertainment industry business it can get you oh yeah um but i appreciate you for being on the podcast and good with the movie i know it's going to do well it's uh it's really good and uh thank you peter so you guys could also uh write a review if you want you can watch on youtube or anywhere else well you can just watch on youtube but uh i guess what we should do right now is the um top tier patrons we should i think we should thank you guys so much for listening it means the world to me again patron dot com slash inside of

you can get your name shouted out uh top tiers and other tiers get certain things like boxes for me and little notes from me and occasional zooms and just there's all sorts of stuff i even think that the top tiers might be two tiers from top tier but they get uh you know we get a bonus episode with me and ryan they get like what else do they get they get uh shit talking questions shit talking is now i think a patron exclusive so those are questions just from patrons so patreon dot com slash inside you let's read out the top tier patrons ryan you have them in front of you i do all right nancy d lea and christin little isa ukico uh jillie b ryan h nico p robert b jason w joseph josh c joshua d jennifer ann well that was fast i was feeling it coffee kicked

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