Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - RACHAEL HARRIS: Confronting Trauma Head-on, Letting it Rip on Hangover & The Wonderful World of Dating

Episode Date: July 9, 2024

Rachael Harris (Lucifer, Suits) was an absolute blast this week! Before she talks about her improv background coming in handy during iconic comedies like the Hangover, The Office, Curb Your Enthusiasm... and more, we get deep… Rachael opens up about traumatic experiences in her childhood and catching herself from passing the same trauma on to her children. Cannot say enough how much I appreciate her candidness and sharing here. We also get into some fun dating talk, miscommunication during Star Trek: Voyager, and the inception of Rachael’s glasses look. Thank you to our sponsors: 🧠 Neurohacker: https://neurohacker.com/iou 🚀 Rocket Money: https://rocketmoney.com/inside ❤️ Betterhelp: https://betterhelp.com/inside 🚗 NHTSA: https://www.nhtsa.gov/ __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou 👕 Inside Of You Merch: https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🤣 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod 🌐 Website: https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:45 i think you did i did but she's been in tons of stuff i mean i mean uh i mean lucifer uh hangover Hangover. I mean, but so many things. And she's so talented. She kills everything she does. She's such a great guest. I think you're going to really love this. Am I forgetting anything else? Oh, Sunspin. Oh, my band Sunspin. We're doing a stage it July 20th, Saturday at 5 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. Come join us. There's Zoom's. I see all your messages live and I comment on it to everybody. It's like a big party and there's prizes and there's great music. and we're working our next album. So come support us so we can work on our next album, get that done this year. Sunspin.com. And Rachel's tremendous, and we love her. So let's just get into this.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Let's get inside of Rachel Harris. It's my point of view. You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. was not recorded in front of a live studio audience you're feisty what do you mean i in a fun way you're fun you're fun you got a little there's always something behind the eyes there's always you're always thinking of other shit to say mm-hmm you've always been like that haven't you it's probably no it's probably been well yeah since you're a kid you're a little mischievous
Starting point is 00:05:14 yeah yeah do you hate when people say mischievous yeah or when they say um anyways Anyways. I know it's anyway. Anyway. Yeah, who says anyways? No, I don't know. People do. What do other people say?
Starting point is 00:05:31 Or escape. Escape? Instead of escape. Yeah. Or I'm taken. I'm taken back by that. I'm taken back. Yeah, I'm taken.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I'm taken back by that. What's another good one? No, you're like it's a back. Yeah. No. And they're really serious and they said, I was taken back by it. I'm like, well. It's just,
Starting point is 00:05:55 well, you're like, all right. I mean, I'm not the most educated person in the world. No, I mean, I am really not. I was a terrible student.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Really? I just look smart because my glasses. Have you always worn glasses? Not always. I started, you know when I started wearing glasses? You're going to find this fascinating. You won't.
Starting point is 00:06:16 But I was doing the Daily Show. Yes. And I had to read a teleprompter. And I was like, I was like squinting. I couldn't see it. And, um, that's scary. Yeah. And so they were like, we can make it larger, but I was like, wow.
Starting point is 00:06:34 And then I started noticing, this is so sad. The guide on the TV, like when I would go through, remember when we lived by the guide before a stream? Anyway, yeah, no, no, I still go by the guide. I do too. It's just sad. I'm old. The guide, I couldn't see it.
Starting point is 00:06:51 And I was like, I can't have that. No. I need to be able to see it. the program. Are you a far-sided person or a near-sided person? I am near-sighted. So far away is tough. Yeah. Near, you're good. You could take your glasses off right now and read what I've have here. Probably not. I mean, like, it's gone downhill. Like, I have progressives. I am like always looking for answers. And every time you're on Instagram, it's say, do this and this will stop your headaches. Do this. And your nose will be smaller. Yeah. Do this. So I swear to God,
Starting point is 00:07:23 It's like everything. And there was this one guy who's like, do these eye exercise and you won't ever need glasses. You'll correct your vision. And I started doing it. Yeah. And it was like to the left, to the right, triangle, down, box going. And I started doing these things and go, what the fuck are you doing, man? That's, you don't need your glasses.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Don't you think somebody would have mentioned this? A long time ago? Some optometrist would have said, hey, look at an ex. Yeah. Imaginary. Yeah. It doesn't, it doesn't work. No.
Starting point is 00:07:51 No. No. And I always, I'm always scared in the eye exams that I'm trying to, like, please the doctor. Me too. Where I'm like, oh, no, no, I can, I can see it. Can you read the third line, Rachel? And then I'm like, oh, not good enough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Instead of just being on it. And I'm, yeah, but I've learned to be honest now. Yeah. Like, in my. It helps. Yeah. Like, you'll say read the fourth line. I'll go, C-E-F-G-I-A.
Starting point is 00:08:20 And he goes, yeah, I got it. He goes, not close. Not close. I go, really. That's the thing is that if you can just be authentic, I said a really big word. Are you authentic? Yes. Do you think you've always been authentic?
Starting point is 00:08:37 No. No. No. I think when I first started out acting, I think I grew up in Ohio, small town. And I had, there's a whole like Tennessee William. play in there, but I'm not going to go into it. Oh, we all have that in small towns. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Yeah, me too. I grew up in a small town. Yeah, yeah, Indiana, right? Newburgh, Indiana. Yeah, right near Kentucky. Yeah. And yeah, the stories that if I told you, you thought it was a quaint little town,
Starting point is 00:09:06 crazy shit. Same. I could tell, like the guy behind me got caught in a shredder at work and shredded his whole body. Two blocks away, a guy, you know, killing people. That's in prison. It's so ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:09:18 It's so dark. Yeah, I could write a novel. Yeah, no, my parents, I should write something. Everybody's, you got to write this and I'm like, it's intense. Were you near Youngstown? It's, uh, no. I'm, I was near Columbus, but I mean, I've been to Youngstown. I've been to, like, Dayton.
Starting point is 00:09:36 They're all kind of this, you know. Do they have a nights in still? Yes. They have the nights in? Yeah. I used to stay there and I used to be so excited. We're staying at the nights in. Little did I know, I mean, it was the cheapest fucking hotel, motel.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Not hotel, motel, you got. And like the Red Roof Inn. Oh, yeah. And I used to keep all the soaps. Yes. I was like Gilbert Godfrey. He always did that. He kept his little shampoo.
Starting point is 00:09:56 I know. Do you still do that? No. Yeah. See, that emphatic no makes me so happy. Yeah, because that's really, I mean, I do have OCD, but it's not that extreme. Well, and it's, yeah, but it's also a hoarding thing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:12 Like a lack thing. Like if people take all the soaps and it's like we can afford soap. Yeah. We can afford. Yeah. We can afford. actually a full bar that will last more than an hour. Or hey,
Starting point is 00:10:24 call me crazy like a gel. Like a gel that comes out of a pump. You don't need the hair cover. You don't need to take those. You don't need to take those. You don't need, what do you need them for? You don't need to file your nails. No. No. No. You know, it's like we can afford to get this. Yeah. It's an abundance thing.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Were you popular growing up? I was, no. I was a theater nerd. in school. I was a cheerleader. I was more popular, I think, like in middle school. You look like a cheerleader. You look like you'd be a cheerleader. Like you were a cheerleader. Well, my hair now, especially since it's like short and like, you look like a page porter. We had a girl at our high school named Paige Porter, cute, blonde, short hair. She was adorable. Paige Porter. Yeah. Out of my league. Well, no. I mean, I was, okay, so let me just say it this. way. I was in middle school. I was the first year that I auditioned that I tried out. Actually,
Starting point is 00:11:25 it's not an audition, but I tried out to be a cheerleader. I didn't get it and I was devastated. But I also had like, I didn't have the outfit down what all the girls, what all the wealthy girls wore, like to trial for cheerleading. And they also knew what they were doing. So the second year, I was ready. And I had those white sneakers, white socks, blue shorts, light blue Oxford. I mean, I was ready, and I, that was like the beginning of, like, I'm going to be so good. You can't ignore me. And the guys like the cheerleaders. Like, you went out to like.
Starting point is 00:11:57 They did, but I, no, but no, no, no. I was so super nerd. Yes, very straight-laced. Yes, very straight-laced because my mom was, I love my mom. She's still with us. She is not. Oh, she is. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:12:12 But she was a big rager and. Rager. Yeah. Your mother partied. No, like, screamer. Oh, right. Control. You know, because we raged.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Did you think rage too? Yeah, you were like, yeah, she partied. No, but no, she did not party. She was, well, they did party, and that's part of the problem. Right. But. Bad temper. Yeah, really bad, scary.
Starting point is 00:12:36 So I was like, I towed the line. Like, I was a good girl. Really? Like, would she spank you? Yeah, when we were little. She did more than spank me. when I was young. Like what?
Starting point is 00:12:48 Yeah. Like. More than spank? Mm-hmm. Like belt? No, just really hitting and some serious. That's abusive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:59 How long did you ever confront her about these things? I did. When did that happen? In college when I was like having all this anxiety and things like that. And how did it come out? Do you remember the day you? I do. I was standing in the kitchen and I looked at it and I said, you hit me
Starting point is 00:13:16 when I was a child. And she said, I didn't. And I, like out of a movie, I ran out of the house like Forrest Gump, like just running and running and running. And the good news, and I'll cut to the chase is that after lots of therapy, I had a therapist that said, she may never admit it. And that doesn't make it not true. And it's okay. Thank God I have an older brother and an older sister. They got hit.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Yes. That also were like, we understand this happened. So then in a very beautiful thing, I had gotten to this place where I was like, it doesn't matter. I love her. She did the best that she could. You know, we did. I've done that. She had much worse done to her.
Starting point is 00:14:05 She grew up in an orphanage. She didn't have parents when she was in the orphanage. They didn't have therapy. So you forgave her. Absolutely. But it doesn't mean what she did was right. No. And it affected you.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Absolutely. Absolutely. And so to take the drama, well, whatever, it's so dramatic. It's like I keep trying to like make it okay for everybody, but it's okay. When after 9-11 happened, I got a letter in the mail. And I talked to my mom, you know, but she sent me a letter. And in the letter, she said, I just want to apologize for what happened when you were a child. And if anything were to have you. happened and I never apologized. I would never be able to forgive myself because I'd been going back and forth to New York and LA at this point in my career. Right. And in my career. It was an absolute surprise. It literally was like that thing where they say it was like, oh yeah. You needed that valid. Yeah. It was like a four o'clock on a Tuesday or something. And I was like what? And then I immediately called her and I said, I love you, I love you. I love you so much. You never have to apologize to me ever again. And that was it. Yeah. You know, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Yeah, I'm still waiting for that. I know. I didn't mean like, no, but it happened in the kitchen too where I was like, this person said something and I go, well, you hit me. Yeah. I never hit you. I go, don't look at the person that you hit and tell them you never hit them. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:31 And then they changed the subject. I wish you had been with me on that day because I did not. I ran. I just looked at the door like. I just was like, oh my God, they can't even admit that. Yeah. Like how could you? and you know it's just it's sort of i just think having i have a five and a seven year old now
Starting point is 00:15:49 and i will never forget the first time the one and only time i spanked i just did like like pap house on the butt or whatever on the butt in front of my other son in front of my nanny everyone was there my son was is autistic and has uh he's low level autism and ADHD and he was having a moment where I was trying to help him with something and he kicked me in the face and was very aggressive. It was a reaction. It was a reaction. He kicked me. Well, he was, no, he was, he was, he wanted to. No, yours was a reaction. Yes, he wanted to kick me in the face. And I was trying to control him. And, um, and I couldn't. And so I said, Henry, you do not kick mommy in the face. And then I did pow, pal, pow. It sounds worse, but I mean, like I did boom, boom, boom on his
Starting point is 00:16:37 butt and it was as if it was like an electric shock went through my body where I was like, wow. And I just said, Henry, I'm so sorry, I can never do that to you again. I'm like, we're going to, I have to figure out different ways to deal with my anger. And he was like shocked. Do you have a temper? Yeah. You do.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Yeah. So you could be sweet and fun and everything's great, but you could also don't F with me. Yes. But that's, yeah. And that comes from a real place. You know, a learned behavior place. It's probably from a place if I'm speaking maybe at a term, but one I can relate to is that you don't like authority.
Starting point is 00:17:17 You don't like when people feel condescending or are questioning your sort of intellect or putting you down or any kind of or not admitting to what they did or saying something it infuriates you because you're feeling those feelings all over again. Yeah. So you have to learn how to, we have to learn how to sort of acknowledge it. Inside of you is brought to you by quince. I love quince, Ryan. I've told you this before. I got this awesome $60 cashmere sweater. I wear it religiously. You can get all sorts of amazing, amazing clothing for such reasonable prices. Look, cooler temps are rolling in. And as always, Quince is where I'm turning for fall staples that actually last.
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Starting point is 00:21:11 Download the Rocket Money app and enter my show name inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum in the survey so they know I sent you. Don't wait. Download the Rocket Money app today and tell them you heard about them from my show. Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum, Rocket Money. You went to a lot of therapy, didn't you? I did. I went to a lot of therapy. And also because my stepdad, who was the greatest thing that ever happened to me in my life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:41 My biological father divorced my mom when she was two, when I was two. That'd be weird. They got married. Kind of weird. They got married out of the moment. And then, but my stepfather came in when I was four and he was amazing and great. But he was there when this happened. Did he step in?
Starting point is 00:21:58 He, he, well, gosh, we're really going deep. It's great. He, when I was in sixth grade, something happened where my mom lost, lost it. And, uh, and my stepdad said, if you ever hit Rachel again, I'm leaving you. And she came in and told me that. And I was like, well, and my stepdad never said that to me, but I knew that he was aware. He had your back. Yeah. And he was never, he never had a temper. Did you ever hit him? I don't know. I never saw it. You're privy to that.
Starting point is 00:22:37 I never saw it. I saw them fight. I saw the two of them fight. Right. Which was not great. No, I remember some fights of my parents and it was, it reminded me of the shining. Yeah. Wendy.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Give me the bat, Wendy. Not going to hurt you. That's terrifying. I'm telling you, yeah, well, there was some moments. There were some moments. Yeah. Yeah, it was my family. It was, yeah, it was completely, everybody who listens knows, but dysfunctional.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And, you know, what happens is you live with it and you cover up the hurt and you numb the hurt and you hide the hurt and you pretend you're someone else and you pretend everything's great and you use laughter and comedy and all these things to get you through it. And then one day it pops up and you're like, oh my God. I'm damaged. I've been damaged for a while and I haven't dealt with us. Where do I even start? Did you, did you go into therapy? Oh, yeah. I went away to this place for 30 days and people are like, oh my God, I know you were a drug.
Starting point is 00:23:42 No, no, no, no, no drugs. Alcohol, no. No. No, it's just, it's, I have a lot of stuff that I need to do that. That's so great. I just left one day and everybody was like, I'm gone for 30 days. But also, Michael, as a man. I know.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Men don't do that. That's massive. Well, men are starting to do this. Yes, I think the stigma is changing because people like us are opening up. People like Ryan over here, he opens, he goes to therapy now. Ryan, good. It's good. So it's like you just have to know, you have to learn, you can correct your behavior
Starting point is 00:24:15 if you understand it. And if you learn to understand where it comes from, then you could start piecing it together and go, oh, this is the way, this is why I respond the way I do. This is why I'm really insecure. This is why I have anxiety. This is, and if you could do that and accept it, but there are some things I feel that as much work as I've done, there are some things I think that can never be corrected.
Starting point is 00:24:39 And that just, they're sort of embedded in me that, like, although I know I'm not a complete idiot, but there's parts of me that feel like you're a dummy. You're not smart. How do you not know that? You're dumb. And I hear the voices. Yeah. And that's, and I don't know how to get out of that.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And it's like, of course the therapist will sit there and say, well, look at your career. Look at all the things you've done. Look at this and this and this and this. Doesn't, don't you realize that all these things are untrue that you feel, you're, you're not dumb. No, still feel it. Yeah. You know, it's, you never lose it. You just acknowledge it and go, all right, back seat, dude.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Exactly. Well, you just get better at quickly acknowledging it. right and then saying thank you so much that's not really helpful right now and you may have to do that 15 times a day yeah you know especially but like i mean i love working i love you love that environment i do really and i i love it mainly because i'm focused on being of service does that make sense like i'm yeah being of service to the director and to the crew i love being a part of that environment we all know what the rules are yeah this is you know it feels very safe to me i like being in that environment emotionally i mean i love it creatively and i and i feel like i excel at it
Starting point is 00:26:07 but i and i don't i mean i don't excel at a lot of other things like i've always said i'm so glad it worked out as an actor because i have no other skill set i don't think that's true but well yeah i mean i could yeah but that's what you that's your passion that's what you love it gives you purpose But I feel confident in that environment. But that doesn't mean I feel confident as a mother. Really? Like, I mean. That's got to be really difficult because.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Well, yeah. But this is the thing. I feel like I'm not alone in that. Any other mother sitting next to me right now would say, yes, I feel the same way. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's all a spectrum, right? Like some mothers may feel more confident than others. But I mean, I'm really proud of myself.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I think I do a really good job. I work really hard. But that incident that I was talking about like spanking my seven-year-old, it was so great to immediately call the aid that works with us, Henry's one-to-one aide that works with him. And he's great. You wouldn't really know he was autistic or had eight age. I mean, you'd be like, that kid's on fire. But he's amazing and so funny and very sweet. And he's great. But then also call him. his dad who we were divorced and we're different people. But it was great to immediately say, this is what happened. I regret it, but we need to, like, deal with it as a family. And it's a learning, you know, of course I felt incredible shame for spanking him where
Starting point is 00:27:44 I grew up every kid on my block got spanked. You still feel it. Even though it was one incident and it wasn't even a big deal. it's one time you you still that's it you feel guilty for it it's understandable but it's not it doesn't anybody on the outside looking in would be like so what let it go yeah and gracefully i have grab our son we do this we go no or you hit them on the on the on the butt you know you just say you know most people don't think of it but since these things happen to you that's why you carry it yeah you know and it um you were talking about you and your ex and we don't have to
Starting point is 00:28:21 talk about it, but you said we were different people. I want to know how it happens where you get married and then you get divorced. You go, oh, we're just different people. How do you not know your different people when you get married? Okay. Well, we were, when we got together, we're both single. We didn't have children. I was working. He's working. He's a violinist. He was working in New York on Broadway. He'd been working there for 13 years. We had many, like we had multiple friends. What am I saying? Not multiple friends,
Starting point is 00:28:53 but we had a lot of friends in common. Yeah. And that was great. So our- We had many friends. So, sorry. How works? That works.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Maybe laugh and I snort. I snort. Mutual friends. We had a lot of mutual friends. And that was, that was amazing. And then it's very, I think it's very easy when you're,
Starting point is 00:29:17 or easy, or when you're dating someone and you're single and you don't have any, there's no real obligations, right? You don't, aside from like pets or things like that, there's nothing else that you're taking care of and you can fly whenever you want to go somewhere or you can do whatever.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Your own responsibility. Exactly. Just take care of yourself. And when children come into the mix, that's when it's like fertilizer for all your character defects. You know what I mean? For all of your imperfections.
Starting point is 00:29:46 True colors. Exactly. because the things that made us realize we were different people is that I was working on Lucifer at the time and also suits when we had Henry. And we didn't realize in the beginning that Lucifer was going to be shooting in Vancouver. We thought it was going to be in L.A. So I had to travel a lot. And I was saying, I'm going to need a night nurse, you know, to like get up with the kids.
Starting point is 00:30:12 If I'm – get up with Henry, if I'm – If you're working long hours and you're doing all that. these things, you're going to need some help. Right. And he was adamant against it because that's just not the way he was raised. He grew up in Michigan. And he was like, I don't want somebody else taking care of our child. And I said, okay, well, then you do it. It's stressing me out. Right. And so, and so I'm not, I'm not dissing him. Do you see what I'm saying? I'm just saying we have different thoughts. Different thoughts on it. Yeah. And we had different thoughts about finances when it came to what we found important. I grew up very poor. I worked very hard to get to a certain
Starting point is 00:30:48 place in my career. And I was like, well, I would like to drive an Audi. And he was like, well, no, I think if you're going to drive, you don't need to, you don't need to drive an Audi. And I was like, and then I internalize that. Just like, with, I don't want to talk too much about him because he's not here. No, you're just saying, you're just saying that you're, when have children you learn you don't know how somebody's going to parent really until you're in it and you both have different kind of thoughts yeah that's all you're saying you're not like putting him down you're just saying hey you you think this way I think this way and right it just ended up not being beneficial to both right and and we went to therapy together and I tried a lot about it
Starting point is 00:31:35 in therapy um are you still are you still you still talk oh yeah he and his partner the way you said that I can tell you're very, you're very close. Yeah, we are. And I think the great thing about my son having special needs is that it's really bonded us very quickly. That's rare. That's fucking rare. I know. And like his, his partner, Aaron, I love her.
Starting point is 00:32:01 If she ever leaves us, I am going with her. No, I love her. And I took her, we had like a mother's son for Mother's Day. We had a mother's son dance at the. elementary school and I have another son Otto 5 as well and he's Otto. Auto. I said it Otto. It's auto. It's like
Starting point is 00:32:19 and I, you know, remember when we... Auto. Well, you know, all the... Just me. It's Otto. That's how we say it. That's how we say it like a robot. But he, you know, remember when we're filming and a lot of the camera equipment has Otto Nemens on it? No. You know, you've never seen that like on the camera equipment? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Google it. No, I'm just kidding. No, Ryan, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But I saw that name and I love, I've always loved it. I love that name too. And then my ex-husband is German. Sprechen-sefusser by German. What was I going to?
Starting point is 00:32:55 I almost, I almost responded in Spanish. Good talk. I love. I love you. Good night. Like we say, I love you, good night. Good night. I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I think, Good Morgan. Yeah, his, you speak German, obviously. I can speak Bessian, a little. Okay, because Christian's family is from,
Starting point is 00:33:19 um, no, near Frankfurt in, gosh, why can't I think of it right now? I say it all the time. Cologne? It's a great,
Starting point is 00:33:27 no, Cologne's beautiful. Yeah. But, I don't know, but regardless. But regardless. But I love that you,
Starting point is 00:33:32 you all get along. Yeah. Well, so we went to this, um, mother's son dance and I said, Aaron, you should come with,
Starting point is 00:33:38 um, Henry and Otto and she was, it was a big moment for us. that's awesome she was like thank you for that and I was and my my ex-husband was so great and he was like that she's with us all the time of course she's going to go and and my son's hearts are big enough to I they know that I'm their mommy but they also can have many to your mommy yes yeah do you why not do you find dating to be difficult especially since you're celebrity and you know you're back and maybe you're already with someone but like you know
Starting point is 00:34:08 is it tough yeah no I it is I think it's tough because you never really know, like you have, you know, we have so much material out there, right, that people can watch. And then they get this idea that you're Sheila's ass from suits. I was like, I'm not, I'm really not Sheila. I don't wake up like this. No. No.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I wake up with red splotchy skin. Yeah, who cares. I know. It's cold life. Oh, but this goes back to me being a cheerleader in the seventh grade. I was bone white, no melanin in my skin, big birthmark up the back of my leg. it was not it was not hot you talk about like it's past tense like you don't have the birth mark anymore right I had it lasered off no I've had people say to me you could just laser that off
Starting point is 00:34:50 what are they German I know I made it sound like German you could just have these people laser at all you don't need to have your birthmark no but it was a French woman it was a costume designer on a show that I was on a long time ago yeah that's you that's you out of it yeah I have a mole and it's not going away where is your mole take a guess on your back. I have a mole on my back. Okay. But anyway, it's a small mole that I like.
Starting point is 00:35:17 My doctor's like, it's nice. Yeah, I had a mole right here. Very famous mall. Let me see it. No, well, it's gone now. Let me see something that's gone. It was right here. Well, you didn't know it was gone.
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Starting point is 00:38:01 at participating restaurants in Canada for limited time. What is your what's the most favorite thing in terms of work that you've done like you'll sit here and tell me you love Lucifer because you probably did I did I loved great role and I loved the family yeah the fan I mean Tom Ellis I had him on the podcast he was fantastic isn't he awful yeah he's such a dick really a dick no he's so handsome and he is welcoming and sweet and humble he's totally like that all the time that's what I hear from everybody What is, what do you think, when you think of like your favorite projects? Yeah. What comes to mind? Sequest. I like Sequest. You know the story behind that.
Starting point is 00:38:48 You're like, no, I don't, Rachel. I did not. Is it a good story? I didn't read everything about you. No. It is a good story. I was a nanny for Roy Scheider way back in the day. What?
Starting point is 00:38:56 Not for him, but for his child. Not, wait. Yes, I understand that, but you met him. He was 60. I remember I used to get, so sad when he passed. So, so much. Oh, I know. He's really close to Barry Sondonfeld, and I, I worked with Barry Sondonfeld.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Roy Shider. Oh, man. He was amazing. He was so kind and very private. And I remember I was living in New York, catering. And one of the catering people said, I have a client that I think would really like you, do you ever babysit? And I was like, well, I babysit. Like, I wasn't, I mean, I was so green.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I was just like, I babysit. And he hired you. So I met with them. They hired me. I would go out to the Hampton. Yeah, I remember they had a house in the Hamptons on the beach. Yes, yes. You know.
Starting point is 00:39:43 And Brenda King, Shider, his wife was so great. She used to tell me that she was roommates with Helen Hunt back in the day and whatever. She gave me a mattress. I had to drive near here, like right by the old Jerry's Deli. You're not going to tell me Roy Shider gave you this role. Yes, he did. He did. I was a nanny and he said we were talking about acting.
Starting point is 00:40:03 And I was always like, he's not going to know if I'm good or not. whatever, but he said, well, do you have your sad card? And I was like, I don't. And he said, well, this is what I'm going to do. When we move out to New York, I mean, to Los Angeles, we're going to give you, we're going to bring you in as an extra. And then I'm going to give you a line. And nobody's going to know, but we're going to pick you out of the extras and just say, hey, we need you to say this. And then you're going to say that line. And then you're going to get your side card. You're going to get your side card. And I was like, wow.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I don't think that's going to happen. I'm so freaked out. I don't know if it's going to happen. And then, of course, he goes, this person's going to call you. And so I get a call from this PA. And they're like, we need you tomorrow morning to be blah, blah, blah, at this time, going to wardrobe. I did it. And then I was so, it was very first time on like a sound stage or anything.
Starting point is 00:40:57 It was amazing. I had done. And then I started doing background work on the original 902 and O, but that's a whole other story. but they he that happened picked you out he wasn't on set he wasn't the line what was the line it was this these orbs you remember it i do these orbs could change um the two kids i can't remember their names these orbs could change let's say peggy and justin's lives forever and like and i'm holding these orbs were you nervous oh my oh was i nervous I was so nervous, but I was also excited.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Does that make sense? So it's like, I just was like, here we go, game on. I was like game on. So then cut to when the episode is supposed to air and I'm in Los Angeles and my parents are in Ohio. My whole family's watching and I'm like, this is it. And they're like, okay, we see you. Like they close up on me.
Starting point is 00:41:56 They close it on me and they're like, okay. And then I'm listening and I can hear them. And then they're like, great, yeah, they're like, great job. And I was like, did you hear me say in my line? And they're like, no. And I was like, what? They cut it. But that was always the intention.
Starting point is 00:42:16 You got the sad card. Yes. And from there, that's when he, did you read for the role? No. That's all you did? Yeah, that's all I did was one line on Sequest, yeah. That's amazing. I know.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Roy Shider. Did you go to his funeral? Yeah, no, I didn't. Jeez, man. I didn't. Did you? No. Oh, I didn't know, Roy. Oh, I thought you knew him.
Starting point is 00:42:41 I just knew where he lived. Weird. Really odd. No, that's hilarious. Did you audition for Hangover? I did. How many times? Just once.
Starting point is 00:42:53 With Todd Phillips. Yeah, with Todd Phillips. Do you know I auditioned for it? You did. And he sat there and he looked at me. He goes, you're great. And I go, well, thanks very much. He goes, but we've already cast the character you're right.
Starting point is 00:43:11 What? Todd. They already cast Bradley Cooper. He goes, he goes, because I think I was going, I was reading for Ed Helms character. Yeah. And he goes, you're right for the other character, but we've cast it. Then I go, hey, thanks man. Thanks for being honest.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Nobody ever does that. No, that's true. Todd's very, very direct. I left my agent and goes, had it go, I didn't get it. What do you mean you didn't get it? You don't know that. He told me. But I always commend him for doing that.
Starting point is 00:43:38 I think that was pretty. Because that was a life-changing experience. You were dynamite in that. Thank you. I mean, you were so good. Was it fun and playful on set? Yeah. Just always like where they say more, bitchy.
Starting point is 00:43:49 More. More. Oh, you have, if we could see, if you could see. But my favorite thing to do, and nobody does this anymore, but on the DVD, there's the director's cut. And Todd goes through and talks about every single scene, right, with Bradley and Ed and the guys. And what Todd says is so, it's like, I was like, okay, I'm done. I'm fine.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Like after the wedding scene. Like, it was, it was, I was like, yeah, it was fun. And he, he, he had, I'd worked with him in tiny little parts in other movies. Like, I had auditioned for him a few times on other things. So, so this was, this was great. But we had no idea that the hangover was. is going to be the hangover. No.
Starting point is 00:44:32 We just knew that we were having a lot of fun. Well, you did groundlings. I did. So did you get to improv improvise a lot? I did. Like a lot. You guys were going nuts. Todd could not hear me say enough swear words.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Enough disgusting. What's one thing you remember doing that never made it to anything, but you remember oh my guy, everybody was in stitches? Well, I remember saying suck my cock. Like. To your husband. To Ed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Right. To your. Oh, no, no, no. just to Zach, Gallifanacus. Oh, Zach, Zach. Like, the tags on that. Oh. Like, so many tags.
Starting point is 00:45:06 We played with so many awful things. Yeah. And I was like, wow. Did they break? Like, even after I did it. Oh, yeah. But Todd was like, say this. Say this.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Say this. And I just did it. I just was like, okay. And straight-faced. Yep. Did you ever break and laugh? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Who made you laugh? Ed probably in the doctor scene, like at the doctor, you know. the doctor at scene. So he cracked you up. Yes. But he also was so great because I think that was our first scene that we shot. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:45:41 But I can't remember. Maybe we did the wedding scene first. But he was like, we were doing the scene and I was doing it as scripted. And Ed looks at me and he's like, come on. Come on. Come on. Say like crazy. Like, come on.
Starting point is 00:45:54 And I was like, all right. And then that's when I said things like, and that little girl up on that stage who's dry humping and fucking the fucking stage right um yeah and he's like that's and like I could see in his eyes he was like that's what I and so and then to bring it back to be where she's like so prim right was was so fun but that wouldn't have happened if Ed hadn't said come on come on like he because we had worked together so much like on the daily show and then done other things and so we were friends and he was like you got to let it rip. Do people still let you rip? They do. Because they should. Because they should know your
Starting point is 00:46:37 abilities. They do. Well, yeah, they do. Obviously, in Lucifer, you can't really do it. But I, no, no, no. But I was like, but we had to do that a little bit, which was fun. But it was, it's not really the right vibe for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was just doing, um, uh, oh, I just did like leverage redemption. And they, which was bizarre. Anyway, whatever. And great.
Starting point is 00:47:04 And I got to improvise in that, which was really, which was really fun. Because I'm so like from a theater, because first I'm a theater actor, and then I went to the groundings. So I'm always like, you have to do what's written on the page first,
Starting point is 00:47:18 out of respect for the writers, because as a writer, we've worked so hard on making, you know, those words, what they should be. And until somebody says, okay, make it your own,
Starting point is 00:47:29 I feel like it's disrespectful to the right or not to do what's on the page. I bet you auditioned for bridesmaids. I didn't. What? I didn't, no. You should be up for everything like that. Well, this is the thing. Annie and Kristen Wigg knew me from the groundlings.
Starting point is 00:47:45 They already knew that they, they, I don't know. I have no idea what that process was like. But because Wendy McClend and Covey was from the groundlings, Melissa's from the, they knew what that cast was going to be. and they knew who they wanted for it. So, so, and it was amazing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And it's like one of the greatest films ever.
Starting point is 00:48:08 I think Kristen Wigg is like the funniest person on the planet. I think you're absolutely right. Yeah, she is. She hasn't done anything lately. Like, did you, have you watched Palm Royale? Oh, no, is that good? So good. Really?
Starting point is 00:48:20 Oh, my God, it's so good. Allison Jerry. I'm going to ask you, there are any shows that I should watch? I'm, I'm tough. I'm really tough on shows. I'm so tough that I watched this movie the other night and it was such a piece of shit that I demanded iTunes give me my money back
Starting point is 00:48:36 I'm based on principle and I did and I emailed them and they gave me $5.99 back. What about your time? Did they give you your time back? No. That's not nice. But that movie was like I'm not giving money to that. Can you say what movie it was? No. Come on. Because it's like a small movie. It's not like a bit
Starting point is 00:48:51 and I just don't want to hurt people but I do want to, I do want to hurt people. Yeah. No, I don't. No, I do. I know what that's like... There's so many bad, you know. Yeah. No, I find that it was so great because I just did this film, but we got to see it in a theater. And I was like, God, what is it? We have to go see films in theaters.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Yeah. It's Mother of the Bride, which is on Netflix right now. And who do you play? I play Janice. Of course you do. Of course I play Janice, who's like the single drunk friend of Book Shields. I get to play drunk. A little bit, not really.
Starting point is 00:49:26 I mean like I could have played I you know that's hard too like you don't want to play drunk the best drunk of all time is Dudley Moore and not art true that's true and also Jack Lemon plays a good he's taking the north of the cheese you think he likes cheese that movie is my favorite it's my favorite I can quote that movie all that it's my favorite comedy of all time what about Tutsi I like Tutsi but Arthur no but Arthur's yeah Arthur's like Arthur I killed a man once he goes He came into our kitchen in the middle of the night and I stabbed him. Yeah. I guess you ate out that night.
Starting point is 00:50:03 I don't know with him. Oh, in your kitchen. Just one after another, I just, in the stitches. What's your favorite comedy of all time? I mean, there's so many different genres. Like, I love everything from Tootsie. Like, I mean, but I love that just for nostalgic reasons. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And he's an actor. Is that my phone, rude? No. And then, oh my gosh, but I love things like Stutzy. at brothers and oh that's fucking phenomenal you can't I mean it's ridiculous I mean and I do love the hangover which is gross that I'm saying that the hangover is hilarious in fact the first I need to watch it again yeah the first one yeah um and then uh oh my god I love but I mean like I love old movies like raising Arizona yeah oh airplane's so great but like raising Arizona
Starting point is 00:50:51 rising Arizona come on Christmas vacation stop it's one of the fun oh my God God, oh my God, Chevy Chase. He's so brilliant. When they're singing the carols at the tree, stepbrothers. Also, when. The boat. I can't, the boat, but also when, what's his name, the dad, who is one of my favorite actors of all time. Oh, yeah, he was in Dahmer.
Starting point is 00:51:16 He was the father. Oh, yeah, and also he was Richard Jenkins. Oh, I would love to work with Richard. That's a dream. I would love to work with Richard. Let's call Richard Jenkins and say. We should say, we have gotten. We would like to work with you.
Starting point is 00:51:27 And then watching him play such a harrowing character. Yeah. You know, it was awesome. Yeah, there's a lot of great movies out there. I don't think. Wait, wait, wait. When Richard Jenkins is in stepbrothers and he's like, it's Christmas Eve and he goes down and he goes, he goes, I'm going to go get a drink at the bar. And, and Mary Steenbergen looks at him and she goes, but it's Christmas Eve.
Starting point is 00:51:51 And he goes, yeah, Merry Christmas. And he walked down the door. I'm sorry. I don't know why it's just so subtle that moment he just yeah he just tosses it you know he's just like Merry Christmas to his wife and his family and then he's like you idiots like it's just my favorite is honestly when he's will is singing just like I don't know my voice is all scratchy I haven't sing in a while I'm out of tune I don't it's just like I don't know it's like And he's doing that thing, and it's just like, you sing like an angel.
Starting point is 00:52:28 I just, it just killed me. That movie just killed me. There's a lot of funny movies out there. I know. But wait, what's your favorite comedy? I mean, I think Arthur Slapshot. Yeah, you said that. You're like, are you listening?
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Starting point is 00:53:22 The Conjuring Last Rites, only in theater September 5th. By the way, I don't know why I thought about it. When I think of Shelley Long, I think it cheers and then I think of Krissy Alley and you worked with Kirstie. Yeah, I did. Was she great to work with? Well, yeah, I'm a Scientologist, so I'm not. No, I was like, let's see if this would have been my response if you said that. Play it real. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:53:49 So, yeah, Kirstie Allie. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I worked with her. And I'm a Scientologist. Oh. Cool. Is that, do you get creamed for that? Do you get creamed for that? Um, anyway. And can I say this, though, about what, what is this? Like, this is like, it just went crazy jazz. Stop. All right. Kirstie was amazing to work with. Right. So kind. And as far as a woman who was dealing, she was fat. She was saying, and I'm not, I'm saying, she was saying she was fat she was like fat actress she approved the title who it was a lot right and this is what happened we were in the show together and she said why are we dressing rachel like holly hobby she's like why are you she's so she's a little she's like so cute let's dress her yeah let's dress her and make her look great wow she didn't i mean that's cool because most Actresses or act I don't want to say actresses, but like they'll be they're they want to look at the better yes they always are women like that be honest I well I think a lot of women are sort of like I'll especially if they're the lead I think if they're in extraordinarily insecure right and you're not to that place in your life where you're like everybody needs to fucking win and and and and there is no competition and she wanted everybody to win yeah yeah she did you know I have a theory um never have your a
Starting point is 00:55:19 girlfriend who's a friend that's a girl set you up with somebody because she will never set you up with somebody prettier than her period and I called one of my friends out I go really that happened to you this is what you think is my type I think she's cute I don't no you think you're way prettier yeah that was just my theory that's good no it's I get it I get it well but this is my other thing though is that I think your friend has a thing for you No, God. If she didn't set you up with somebody prettier than her. Because if my beautiful friends were single, do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:59 If my friends, I have really beautiful friends. Cheryl Hines is one of my very best friends. Susan Yagley, married to Kevin Nealon. I love Kevin. He was on the pod. He's so great. Yeah, they're the greatest. And I would set my friends up with them.
Starting point is 00:56:16 You know, like back in the day, we were in the groundings. You just said, I'll connect. You want to, you want your friends to be happy. Yeah. It's your choice to go out with them, but you should go out with them. See, that is how it should be. Yeah. And one of my friends said to me, hey, your friend, Jill, is really cute.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I go, I'll talk to her. Yeah. Jill. Yeah. I'll go out with them. Sure. Yeah. Don't get mad at me if it doesn't work out.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Yeah. You're an adult. Yes. Yeah. But we, but you said earlier that you felt like dating is hard right now. Yeah, it's hard. Are you with someone right now or are you? No, I'm not with someone right now.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Um, but you should see the, the message on this dating app that I was, I was talking to this girl on. I think, are you ready for this? Oh, God. Yes, I'm ready. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say the name. I don't know why. Oh, they deleted me.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Oh, they deleted me because I told them you need to find someone. I, I put them in their place. They said, you need to tell me what it was said. It was like, it was like, I'm immediately. I was like, hey, how, she said. hello first. She goes, hello. And I go, hey, how's your day going? You know, blah, blah, blah. Ignored everything I said. I go, I like your name. It's unique. Where are you from? And then she goes, look, I'm looking for a serious relationship. I'm looking for someone who has the same needs as me.
Starting point is 00:57:37 And it went on. I go, maybe we should start out with, how are you doing? And let's chat. Something fun. What are your hobbies? And let's just see if there's any kind of very serious. She said something else. She goes, I just like to get to the punch. Like, you know, what are you looking for? And I'm looking for someone who's fun. I'm looking for someone who is engaging and not so serious all the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:00 And I think the last thing I said, I was her response. It was just weird. And I just said, hey, I wish you the best. I hope you find someone great. So I really, I didn't delete her, though. I wanted her to read that. Yeah. I wish you the best, but I don't think, you know, you seem a little too serious for me.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I feel like I'm in a job interview. Yes. I said that. Yeah. I feel like I'm in a job interview. Yeah. Loosen up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:20 It was just, wow. Yeah. Such a cute, charming on the outside. Yeah. But like maybe this person had had some bad relationships or was burned or something. I don't know. Yeah. What about you?
Starting point is 00:58:34 Yeah. No, I was just going to say, was she over 30? Yes. Okay. Okay. Good. 39. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Four, maybe. Yeah, she's 39. Okay. I don't worry so much about age as long as the person. is takes care of themselves is funny they don't have to be funny they have to understand funny they have to get funny yeah i don't need someone like me i don't want to date someone like me i like somebody who's a little more you know shut the fuck up you know i like i like when somebody says enough okay but i have to be attracted to them so if yeah enough yeah so yeah so
Starting point is 00:59:17 If they have sex, people, I don't care how old they are. I mean, I don't want to date like a 70-year-old. Yeah. What's the oldest you've dated? I'm going to say 64. Well, my, my, no, I haven't dated anyone older than me. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:36 I could see that, though. My ex-husband is, I do, but I do. I do. I do. And I think it's a problem because guys ask me out. that are a lot younger than I am. How much younger? You date 30-year-olds?
Starting point is 00:59:52 I've been asked out by 30-olds. Do you say yes? And I'm like, you have no idea I could be your mother. And they're like. Yeah, and that's when I run a country mile away. If they're, yeah. It's tough because my ex-husband is eight years younger than I am. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:10 But I recently, I mean, I had been with someone who was in their 50s, which I loved. Okay. I loved that. But that didn't work out. That didn't work out. Why doesn't it work out? I think we were just in different places. You know, I have two little boys.
Starting point is 01:00:28 This person has a grown son. I think that's... Do you want someone to come in and eventually be your partner and be sort of like a stepdad and be that? Or are you just looking to date someone, have fun, and don't worry about that? You know, well, I went into this last relationship in that place.
Starting point is 01:00:48 What place? Where I was like, I just want to date someone, have fun. Right. And then what I realized, if I'm being really honest, is that, you know, my boys are part of my life. Mm-hmm. And it's not that I, they have a dad, you know, that's very involved in their life.
Starting point is 01:01:06 And we have a great relationship. But I think what I would like is for them to, for them to be a part of this. the conversation, right, to not always be involved with this person that I'm dating, but that they have, that they understand who that person is in my life. Right. And it's not like, you don't, we don't start out right out of the gate with my kids. Yeah, it's like, oh, I've got to bring the birthday presents.
Starting point is 01:01:32 I just, dating her three months. No. Jesus. But that's what I even went for in the beginning because I was like, well, let's just do, I want to know you even before I introduce you to my kids. So it was very, it just became. clear that we weren't in the same place right for a lot of reasons but so but but I'm happy that I went through that yeah like and also I still talk to this person oh good yeah I'm not like that
Starting point is 01:02:02 you're like me you're just you know it's not like I'm I'm not going to cut and cut and run and hate and say terrible things yeah you know and we were also extraordinarily private so really really private are you a private person not totally but i think in that realm of dating i think it's important especially being kind of known that you that you give yourself the space to be just the two of you for a little while just the two of you and then be with friends right like i want that's another thing yeah you know like there's a lot of uh there's a lot of elements to dating it's not just I attracted to this person. It's do I want to really hang out with this person all the time? And then to my friends like this person, did they get along with my friends? I think the friend thing
Starting point is 01:02:56 is everything. It really is. I had I dated someone and I just, you know, my friend was just a couple of my friends were just like, I don't know. Yeah. And I'm like, I was hoping you wouldn't say that, but I knew you was. Yes. Because I felt it myself. Yeah. Yeah. They're just telling you what you're already feeling. Yeah, no, you need to be able to, that's part of it, right? Like, bringing someone into your world and seeing if that gels. Yeah. And there's a lot of things as you get older, you don't want a chameleon for people. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:31 You want to make sure that you're who you are. Hey, I'm going to say a word you describe your time. Okay. Goose pumps. Really, really, really. really satisfying getting to do comedy and drama like really like good drama is there anything going to happen in the future with this no it was picked up for a second season and then they told us they're doing a trilogy so a whole new cast were you upset yeah that's i mean if just in long
Starting point is 01:04:02 and i had the i had the greatest time with them and they loved it what do they what we worked so hard on the first season it was very exciting and i loved our executive producers like i loved erno mollie and raw blood I meant ugh he's such a dick he's a dick and I don't know if he would have come back for season two but if he had come back I would have you would have done it yeah Star Trek Voyager oh hilarious that's hard probably did you have a lot of lingo I gave birth to a baby out my back it was like I shit a baby on an episode yes yeah I have a birthing bar that I did push and shove a baby out my back. I was in El Campo. Was it a lot of shit
Starting point is 01:04:44 that they had to put on you? Not on me, but on the baby. The baby had green cheese and strawberry jam. Is that what you put on babies to make them look real? I don't know. I don't know, but I have also the greatest story about that too. Go ahead. The director. Like, after I have the baby and they put the baby on my arms, I was so excited and happy
Starting point is 01:05:04 and I say maybe someday this baby, very similar to start to Sequest. I was like, Maybe someday this baby will see the sun because we lived underground. I don't know why all my sci-fi lines are the same. But that happened. And then the director came up to me. He goes, okay, can you bring it? And this is one of my first jobs ever on Universal.
Starting point is 01:05:29 A lot, I think, no, no, no. Or it was like at Gower. I can't remember. Can you bring it? He goes, can you bring it? And I just looked at him and I go, yes. I had no idea. Who you were in store for?
Starting point is 01:05:40 No, I had no. do what he thought but I didn't I didn't say well what do you mean like that was this is what I'm saying yeah but now I will be very direct and and say I don't know what that means like I have no problem saying I don't know what that word means I don't know I've not read that book all those things right that you think you should know or whatever and so he said can you bring it and I was like yes so we do another take and he's like okay I really need you to bring it and I was like I got you Okay, okay, okay. Third take, the makeup artist comes, and she blows menthol in my eyes.
Starting point is 01:06:16 And I didn't, I'd never had menthol in my eyes before. And she's like, he wants you to cry. And I was like, oh, oh, oh, okay, I can do that. That's. God, he had no idea what he was talking about. He didn't say, well, he didn't say, I want you to cry. I don't know. You can say that.
Starting point is 01:06:37 director. I've said that to people. I don't know nowadays. I don't know if you do that. I don't know if you could say, hey, I want you to cry. I want you to, if you want, if you would like to cry, then I would like also to see that. Well, I think you can say this is a big moment where this person breaks down, where they absolutely lose it. Are you comfortable doing that, right? There's a way he could have gotten into that conversation. I had a director who was an asshole. He just was like, he was such a dick. That's shocking. he goes he comes up to me and i'm filming this and we got along really well and then he goes and he was in a rush and the old stuff he goes uh i want you to do this and then and this and then say that to him
Starting point is 01:07:17 and then do that and then got off and i did it goes no i told you to turn and then say that and then go and i go whoa dude why don't you come up here and slow down and really direct me and show me exactly what you want because i don't know what the fuck you're talking about right now yes and he was just frantic I want you to do and then this and then that after that moment I was just like this guy's a dick
Starting point is 01:07:45 it was James Gunn no I'm kidding I'm kidding I love James Gunn that's it was I can't say it oh it was he's not that big of a director in fact I don't know what he's doing right now Bankmore on course
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Starting point is 01:08:41 We are wicked and grim. Follow and listen on your favorite podcast platform. But he did one thing that I loved, but I can't talk about it. Okay. I think he's talented. I just think he was a dick that day. Yeah, we've all had that stuff. All right.
Starting point is 01:08:55 We have to minimize it, but. I mean, you've done so much. Friends, the office, curb your enthusiasm. How was that? Curb your enthusiasm? Again, that was a, I, I, shot it with Mel Brooks. And you improvised the whole time?
Starting point is 01:09:08 Yeah. Yeah. You came up with all this shit. Yes. What do they give you? What do they say before you do this thing? Okay, so he just said you are a lesbian. You are you and your partner are having a baby that you've adopted from China.
Starting point is 01:09:23 I'm going to come in and talk to you about baby names and probably going to offend you. Like in some, and I want you to respond to that. And I was like, okay. That's. That's what Larry David Larry says this to me And there's also an outline And so we
Starting point is 01:09:40 We come in I'm so nervous But you don't memorize anything No But that's even scarier Because you're It's all your words When you're terrified
Starting point is 01:09:49 It's hard to be funny Right Unless you like are Feeling confident Right And it's hard It's a balance You get confidence
Starting point is 01:09:57 And Larry does this Like say just say like a line Right now And I'll be Larry David I hate peanut I'll do that look. And Cheryl, okay, so cut to Cheryl Hines is my best friend, and I call her and I said, I'm sorry, I'm, I'm sure I'm fired. I'm supposed to work tomorrow, but I'm sure they're going to fire me.
Starting point is 01:10:25 And she totally goes into hysterics, and she said, right, not hysteric. She'd be like, I wasn't hysterics, but starts laughing and says, Everybody feels that way. She's like, that's just the look on Larry's face. And I'm like, well, why didn't you tell me this? She's like, well, you have to experience it for yourself and it's fine. And maybe you wouldn't get that look. But she's like, but that's how he processes this thing.
Starting point is 01:10:44 She's like, trust me, I would have known by now if you weren't coming back. And I'm like, okay. So second day, Mel Brooks is in the scene. I play his assistant. He comes in and he, I can't even show. Like, he touches my face, like with his hands. He's in the middle of the scene. He's like, oh, Leslie, I think my name is.
Starting point is 01:11:03 And then he sticks his leg back behind him. Like he's doing like an L shape. Does that make sense? Yes. He's improvising and being hilarious. And I'm like, what is going on? But everybody starts dying and laughing. And it was amazing, like seeing Larry working with Mel Brooks and laughing so hard.
Starting point is 01:11:24 And Jeff Garland, everybody was great. And then at the end of the day, we go, we break for lunch. And I go up to him and I say, I just want to tell you what an honor. in a privilege. I can't believe I got to shoot something with you. And I'm such a huge fan of your wife, Anne Bancroft and the turning, like the turning point. Like if we're talking about dramas, like, wow. And I said, and he was like, he was like, oh, that's, he's like, that's very kind of you. Thank you so much. And I said, well, it was really nice. And I was wrapped and he gave me a kiss on the cheek. And he said, I'll call you tonight. And then he turned around and walked away.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Brilliant. That is so brilliant. Isn't that amazing? I know. I mean, you did friends. I did friends. I mean, it was fun. I mean, you just, you've done like such memorable shit, desperate housewives. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:12:15 Unfrosted is out now. Yes. And you do a voice? I basically do a voice in it. Yeah. No. I play Anna Cabana, Bob Cabana's wife, Jerry Seinfeld's wife. But it's very, it's very brief.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Like I like to say, I think a lot of people have brief stuff. Yes. I appear in unfroft. You worked with Seinfeld? I did. All right. And Melissa McCarthy and Jim Gaffigan and... Jim Gaffigan is awesome.
Starting point is 01:12:41 The greatest. The greatest. So great. Yeah. No, it was amazing to be the off-camera with all these idiots like Tom Lennon, James Marsden, Bobby Moynihan. This is called shit talking with Rachel Harris. How dare you?
Starting point is 01:12:58 How dare, double dare me. These are my top-tier patrons. They ask questions. Okay, your top-tier patrons? Patreon.com slash inside you. I love you. I support the show so much. They're going to love you. You guys. Raj, this is fast. Okay. Okay. So really quick answers. Raj, do you have any fond memory of a time where you splurged on yourself? Yes. Yes. Well, in high school, I remember buying myself a Timex watch. I mean, when I was in college.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Cassio. Stop it. I bought myself a Timex watch and that was a big deal not knowing that things like Rolex existed. Jen T, what is the best advice you've ever received from a teacher or mentor? Ed Vaughn, my college professor. Oh, and by the way, I, whatever, that's beside the point. But Ed Vaughn, my college professor, I was like, I just want to do it right. And he said, well, that's the problem. He said, you're never going to do it right. He said, you have to do it how you are going to do it.
Starting point is 01:13:49 And he said, it doesn't matter what I think. Doesn't matter what anybody else thinks. He's like, I'm here to direct you, but you have to like what you're doing. You have to make the choice. And that was pivotal. Sound, sound advice. Jules'am, what is a standout moment for you from Lucifer? Oh.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Just a little scene with Tom and I where he says, I want her to choose me. And I say, well, then tell her. And just in encompassing, very quickly, I'm sorry, all of the therapy scenes with Tom and I were the standout moments. You loved it. I, well, I mean, I've lived in therapy. It just felt so good to be the person that wasn't the patient.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Little Lisa, what do you think your best quality is? Empathy. And I'd say you smile, your eyes. Your skin, your height. No, I like to, wow. No, I like to, I love to laugh. Like, I love to find the funny in every single situation. You're a good lapper. That's important.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Yeah. That's a good laffer. Some people, I hate their laugh. Tina. Mine is a knock. Who do you look up to? Who do I look up to? My friend Marty Cartagallian, which nobody in the world knows, it's fine.
Starting point is 01:15:09 And my friend Cheryl Hines. You know, you talk about her enough. She's going to come on this podcast. She's going to get her. Will she do it? Yeah, she'll do it maybe in two weeks. I love you. That was a great answer.
Starting point is 01:15:24 She'll do it in like two weeks. In like two weeks. That's because I'm like thinking about what she's doing right now. We should go out to dinner, like in two weeks. Yeah. We should do dinner at least two weeks from now. Okay. I mean, I'm just buffering because it's like she's got stuff.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Yeah, yeah, of course. Her husband's running for president. This has been amazing. Oh, good. I'm glad. Did you have fun? Yes. Like, you're so easy to talk to.
Starting point is 01:15:44 I love this. Will you come back? Yeah. I feel like I can just talk to you about anything. Yeah. Yeah. Same. Ryan?
Starting point is 01:15:50 It's pretty easy. It was enjoyable. All right. Is it ever like pulling teeth? Do you ever feel like, fuck? The next one. I want to pull teeth right out of my mouth Oh my God
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