Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - RACHEL BILSON: Coparenting, Maybe Flatlining, Taking Accountability & Return to The OC?

Episode Date: August 1, 2023

Rachel Bilson (The O.C., Jumper) joins us to clarify some important questions we had, like: is farting in a relationship kosher and does coffee constitute dating… In all seriousness, she was great this week. Rachel talked about the idea of listening to how your body responds to certain triggers around past traumas, the importance of taking accountability for your own actions, and how difficult it is to parent (let alone co-parent) in a world full of doom and gloom news cycles. We also get into dating costars and the likelihood that the OC returns in some fashion. Thank you to our sponsors: ❤️ Betterhelp: https://betterhelp.com/inside 🟠 Discover: https://discvr.co/3Cnb1V8 __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou 👕 Inside Of You Merch: https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🤣 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod 🌐 Website: https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I was like, kind of like, I woke up on the wrong side of the bed. That's because I had a taffy. You've also got a large bandaid on your knee. Yeah, softball, man. I made a major league caliber play. Yeah? Did you get them out? I'm not kidding.

Like, yeah, I'm going to toot my own horn there for a second. My, uh, the guys were just like, dude. Because I heard them talking about the play when I was sitting on the other side of the bench. Like, dude, that play was like, and I was like, yes. I mean, I, I made a couple nice plays. I hadn't played in a while and it was, uh, we won. by a run and they had the bases loaded at the end and here's what happened i turned this double play to end the game but they called him safe and we ended up they scored five more runs and we barely

won in that last inning and afterwards i said to the amp he goes it was my bad dude i feel bad but you guys won so i was like oh i admitted it he admitted it i go we need computers oh man yeah and i uh i picketed i was uh you know for sagging after i went to went to paramount and uh did that. So that felt good seeing my other colleagues and people, you know, fighting for something that is, is important. It's good. Yeah. And, you know, I think it's like, I'm not going to get into it, but I think the rest of the world kind of views it. It's, oh, poor actors. They don't make enough money. And the fact is that 99% of actors don't even make $25,000, $50,000 a year. No, I know. There's more stories coming out now, but like, you know, what people are actually

getting paid. Yeah. I got many shows. Imagine guys. Like Netflix, you don't get residuals. They buyouts and so it's a lot of stuff so i just just get educated on it if you don't know about it and i certainly have educated myself on it a little bit because uh it's you know but it happens all over the world i mean people working for these large conglomerates that um are getting treated like shit paid like shit and people are making billions the top make billions and i always came you know thought of the idea that you know if you're making money and someone's an integral part of your empire or whatever reward them call them it's it's just human nature. And I just don't know what people need with $100 billion or even $10 million.

You know, if you're making a lot of money, it's like, you know, share the wealth. Yeah. Share the wealth, man. It's, it's, by the way, your employees are going to work harder for you. They're going to let think, feel that they're respected. Um, and this is something where the rich get richer and, you know, um, it happens all over all around the world. It's not just with the Hollywood. Driving down sunset, there's a bunch of hotel workers are on strike. Well, good. I hope they win. Yeah.

Because, again, what are they getting paid? I know. I mean, if somebody profits $100 billion a year or $50 million a year says, hey, we profited $50 million, how about I keep $40 and take that $10 million and give it to everybody else who's been working so hard. And the planet's still on fire. Come on. The planet's on fire. Enough about. I thought about striking, but I got nothing to, I could pick it this, but that's really it.

yeah what no why don't you go with me one day i got nothing to strike why don't you go with me don't you have to be part of the unions they're going to stop you from fucking walking with me probably not no we're going to bring you a sandwich one day bring you a sandwich uh thanks for listening great guests today um and i encourage you guys if if you like this interview um please stick around and uh subscribe to the show write a review it really helps the show we've been doing this for years and we just started doing better. And that's because of the great team I have around me. And boy, four years of just, why am I doing this other than just I love the podcast? But now it seems like this has been a pretty good year. And I'm grateful. And thank you,

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She's got a great body of work, and she was adorable. Rachel, if you're even listening to this, but you're probably not adorable. She was, she's so smart and fun and light. And she's got a great podcast, broad ideas that you have to listen to, and it's a lot of fun. And she's a great guest. So why don't we just get into it? Why don't we just talk to and get inside of Rachel Wilson? It's my point of view.

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If you want more info on the strike, visit sag afterstrike.org. Now let's get into it. Do you think coffee is a date? Okay, my favorite movie of all time is called Just Friends. Have you seen it? No. Okay. Is that Ryan Reynolds?

Yes, it is. Oh, all right. And in the movie, if you go out to lunch, let's say, it's a day date. They're like a day date that's friends, according to this movie, okay? Yeah. I mean, I feel like there's room there. It could be a date. But I think coffee is a introduction.

Thank you. I say that too. So you don't need to have a response back to them after the coffee if you don't want to. You just, you don't have to go, oh, this was great. I mean, I don't respond to people after like sleeping with them the first night. So I'm just kidding. Christ on his throne. No.

I'm just funny. I'm just funny like that. I think that I don't like calling anybody back ever. So, you know, it's like the Irish goodbye, but like. I do the Irish goodbye. For sure. Absolutely. I'm at something, I'm saying happy birthday doing whatever.

Yeah. And after that and they start to, I start to just, you just slip on out. Yeah. You don't need to say goodbye to everybody. No. Oh my God. That is like my biggest. I don't like it.

And I don't like the awkward. like, do I hug you? Like, do I have to? You're like Seinfeld. Don't want to hug you? Is this, uh, is this? Well, Larry David is the love of my life. Is this the last time I'm going to see you?

Yeah. Are we friends? Are we, what is this? I do think a lot like that. I have my own. I do too. I think we all have that little sign filled in us. Of course.

It's just who actually is vocal about it. Yeah. Right. So I can't believe how like I never, have I ever met you? I don't know. I, you always do the safe thing like, oh, it's so good to see you and then it covers it. That's what you said to me when I showed up. In my head, I'm like, fuck, have I met him?

No, I meant it's so good to see you. Right. Like, not again. But that is like a fair thing to do. Yeah. Especially in this business and you meet a ton of people and you see people. It's a safe way. It was really nice to see you.

Nice to see you. I think you're right. I think that's important. I'm usually right. Yeah. Are you? Yeah. Are you usually right?

Yeah. Do you admit when you're wrong? Yes. Accountability is a big thing. I just talked about this. But yeah, it's important to be able to be able to. admit when you're wrong. Really? And how do you go about it? Does it take a minute or do you immediately you know what? It depends on who I'm wrong. It depends on who I'm wrong to. It's a powerful thing,

though. It's a powerful thing. To take accountability. Well, when you can look at someone and say, you know what? My bad. Let's move on. That's on me. My bad. And even if it's not on you and you take it that pisses people off. If you're dating someone, you know what, it's my fault. Let's, that's past, is that passive aggressive? Yeah, 100%. It is. I shouldn't do that. No, it's a dick move.

You can't do that. Is it a dick move? Yeah. But I just don't want to get in an argument. It's like, it's like, you know, no, you're like, but if you, yeah, you can't do it. It's funny. There's so much like, you know, I, I talked to Rob, who you brought along today. Rob Hollis, who started this whole thing with me years ago and then he left me for

Dax Shepard. But. It's happened before. Yeah. Yeah. But I told him. I said, this is a good career move. He knows a lot bigger celebrities and.

You know, he knows he has more money, you know, you'll be near Kristen Bell. You should do this. It's better. And, of course, now he's a millionaire. So, you know. So it's the right move. So really, you helped him. I did.

Like a finder's fee? Yeah. There should be. I thought maybe there would be something. Yeah. But there's not. But he's helping him in your new podcast. He is.

Yes. Broad ideas. Yes. Broad ideas. When I looked at the subject matter of this podcast with Olivia Allen, yes. Who's now an actress now going off to do a movie. Yes.

Um, she already got a movie. She decides to be an actress and can you say actress. Well, she's always one of, oh gosh, don't talk to me about what you can and can't say. But she has always wanted to act and she did a few like small things when she was a lot younger. But now in her 40s, she fucking landed a movie. I'm so proud of her. Good for her. Yeah.

I know. But this podcast, I saw that you guys talk about like what I like to talk about is mental health. Yeah. And how we deal with it and it really helps people. There's so many people out there that, that listen and say this podcast really, saves me or helps me. And I'm like, what? How? And it's just by hearing people like you and just like get personal if you do. And, um, but you are also talk about other shit like, you know, like ghosts and like whatever, which is, which is cool. I think we kind of get into everything here.

Um, I never perceived you as someone that's like, oh, I bet that girl's really open and talks. I bet you weren't always like that. No. No. I definitely, I put my foot in my mouth many times. since this broadcast, broadcast? Sure. Broad ideas, podcast. It's a broadcast. Oh my God. That just dawned on me.

You should have done broadcast. Change the name. Damn it. Broadcast. Fucking brilliant. Rob. Came with a better idea. Came a better idea.

Okay. Great. Now you just summoned him. He's going to come. Sorry. Yeah. So I was, I've always been very private, you know, but there's certain things. And yes, I've put my foot in my mouth.

Sometimes I'm joking around. Sometimes, you know, we'll talk about things that are pretty taboo and people don't think it's appropriate to talk. And I'm a firm believer, especially for women in particular to have a safe space to talk about all these things. I mean, men too. Yeah, no, but yeah, both. Because there's so many things that people feel like, oh, is this weird or am I weird or is this normal? And I think that it's just nice to be able to relate to people on another level. Absolutely.

I mean, do you get, so have you had anxiety, like bad anxiety in your life? for depression or have had to deal with any of that stuff? Well, for me, I was never, I never suffered from like depression or anything, but the past few years, you know, the pandemic and everything else and things in life, it was new for me. So I've been dealing with that now in my older age. What is it about that? When we get older, it's like, I never had this shit. I never had it.

You have it now? Well, I'm, now it's better. I've been working on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's taken a while. But it's almost like my theory is that when you're young, your body can take a lot. You can go play football with your friends and you rebound. You can go drinking with your friends and you rebound and it's easy because you're young.

Right. And then the older you get, the more you stress when we get older, our body's like, no, fuck you. Oh, yeah. Fuck you. I can't take this much stress. Oh, my knee has been saying fuck you for a month to me because I fell skiing. So, you know, it's just you can't bounce back. And that's mentally too.

I think you're on to something. Yeah. But have you ever had a full-fledged panic attack? Yeah, but that's from like weed or something. Or a drug. My friend Tommy's like that. He's like, we just smoked pot. And he goes, he comes down the stairs.

And he says, he's from New Jersey. And he literally talks like this. Ryan, he talks like this. And he's sweating. He goes, Jesus Christ, I just like talk myself off a fucking ledge. He sounds kind of like Irish. I guess so he's from New York or whatever. New Jersey, he's like, you're fucking, I just, I fucking was looking in my face in the mirror

and I'm like, get the fuck, stop, you're all right, you're not going to die. Freaking out. Yeah. But we can sometimes do that to you. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I mean, I, not, like, I'm good with weed. Like, we have a good relationship and a very long one.

But I, yeah, like, if it's induced and you get in your head, but I have, I had more, I've had more anxiety, like in my older age, for sure. Yeah. Plus, you have a child. I do have a child. How old's the child? She's eight. Eight years old. Yes. She's awesome.

Yeah. If you hear an occasional squeak, it's my puppy. I know. You just got a puppy. Charlie. Yeah, Charlie, who you said was a week old. I meant, yeah, I've had him a week. I knew what you meant.

We could already read you. But was I saying? I have a daughter. Oh, yeah. But you have a daughter, but like how, look, it's hard enough to have a kid. Sure. But then when you're co-parenting. Yes.

So you're not obviously married anymore. You're divorced. So you're single. and you're, you know, you got work, you get a podcast, you got, you know, auditions, you got whatever roles you're doing, and you're taking care of your daughter. How do you, how do you, how do you, I couldn't, I could, I don't know if I could do that. Well, you don't, you don't have kids. I don't have a child. You have two dogs.

I have two dogs. Okay. As of now, as of now, as of now, do you want kids? I don't think so. I mean, I don't know. I mean, look at the woman I'm with and I fall in love with her and she's like, I, I know, it feels right. Maybe I'd consider. But it's not like a big thing for you that you've always.

known you've wanted. I think I did and I think that time kind of has passed. It doesn't really work that way. I can't whistle if you notice that two times I went oh yeah no that's not there can you well yeah no not so good I had braces and it took it away from me my daughter's an excellent whistler really yeah I can't do that good for her I know um but the co-parenting but the co-parent yeah it's just you know uh having a kid definitely every day your life you're like okay my kid's alive you know seriously no like you have these morbid thoughts of like all the things that could happen and that adds to the new found anxiety that comes along with being older and raising a kid and every day you're like oh my god like they could be crossing the street you see all the

fucking news like everything that they put out there it's always the most horrendous stories i don't watch it anymore well yeah i don't watch it but like on instagram or whatever it is like you're scrolling and it's all like this person died because they were walking across the street or like you know and it's all of that so it just it just keeps feeding your fucking mind with this awful you know all these stories I'm like where's the where are the positive ones and it puts it in your head so I'm constantly like oh fuck this could happen and like there's nothing more important in the world than your child when you have one so it's just becomes everything is way more heightened because you're you have this person that you're

responsible for but is it hard to just deal with the other person and their schedules and they're like you're not together anymore so is it kind of weird have you kind of passed that yeah I know we do really well well that's good because a lot of people don't right it's all it's all circumstantial it's all different you know situations and whatnot so we do really well and my daughter knows nothing but love and you know and that's the most important thing you know yeah so scheduling is whatever but you figure it out you figure it out but she is so loved by both of us and you know that's all that's all you really need to make sure that's the number one thing I always say that it's just like you know i you do love scary movies sorry i was just looking around it's just

kind of a little thing i don't always watch them yeah but there's a lot there's a lot of them yeah it's either documentaries what's your favorite scary movie i'm calling him scary movies i mean probably i always say the shining it just sticks with me it's just directed like everything that movie it's just they don't make them like that anymore no but there's a lot of good ones if you ever do you watch them sometimes it's the only ones like i can stay awake for at night okay Well, I have some that are quality that I can give you a list that you can avoid all the shit that's out there that gets applauded by rotten tomatoes, which I have a thing for. Everything's 99%. Are they getting paid?

I mean, how could you say this shit is so good? And you watch it and you're like, yeah, that was like a 63. Oh, so you don't agree with rotten tomatoes. I do not agree with rotten tomatoes. I think they get paid. I think somebody pays them. I think the studios have deals. Oh.

There's something. There's something going on. I can see that. I can see that. Yeah, I do. I do. Yeah. And it's like the big critics and all that.

That's how I feel. You think that's, and I think it's kind of skewed now because the whole world is just in a different way. So like, oh, that person, let's give them a high score. Okay. I get back on that. Without saying too much. Sure.

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm talking about, Ryan? No. No. I don't think you did. That's okay. You know, I wanted to get into like, you know, childhood because your mom was a therapist. So she's, okay.

Not a behavioral therapist? Not a behavioral therapist. She doesn't have a degree, you know, as a therapist, but she has studied her whole life and she counsels and she specializes in sex and, you know, all of that stuff. So she taught you about that stuff when you were doing? Oh, my God, but it's the opposite for me. All my friends want to know everything from my mom and always have. But for me, I'm like, I don't want to, I can talk.

I don't want to talk to you about it. No, I don't want it. It's like, you know, it's just this weird thing. But I can. And I'll be like, yeah, mom, like I totally like I had sex with this guy. Like, it's a very open relationship. Really? You tell your mom you had sex with a guy.

Yeah. I mean, I have. Does she say, did you use a condom? Does she say that? She's not old fashion like that. No, she's like raw dogged, girl. Yeah. That's my mom.

Give it the old R.D. The old R.D. No, she's just nice that she's so open, but she's way more into like tantra and like, you know. Tantra? Yeah. Have you ever done Tantra? No. I haven't either.

Okay. I feel like a lot of people are interested. in it and they always want to talk to my mom about it which is great like talk to my mom I don't want to think about my mom and my stepdad like it's disgusting I don't know why I feel the tantra's like um they're just constantly having sex with you um enjoying this what is that yeah they're just constantly you know chanting um it these think that it's like I think the belief and what what it actually is the philosophy behind it and all like the internal stuff that can come along with sex, I think that's kind of the, I think it'd be

interesting to learn about. Yeah, I think so. But I have not. You have not. Not really. All right. It's my mom. But your mom has. Oh, okay. Shouldn't go there. Shouldn't go there. Shouldn't go there. She's preaching it. She's preaching it. No, and I think it's great. And I, I love it. Good for her. Are they still together? My step, not, my stepdad and my mom have been together a long time. Right. And my parents have been divorced since I was nine. How did that affect you? Did it affect you at all? I think the first thing I said when they told me they were getting divorced was I get two Christmases.

I don't know what that says about me. Wait, weren't you Jewish? Yeah, my dad's Jewish, but he loves Christmas. So we would always celebrate Christmas. Yeah, we did too. We had a Christmas tree. You did? Because you're Jewish.

I'm Jewish. Yeah. Yeah. But you had a Christmas tree just. Yeah, we had all that. My grandma would come down as Hanukkah Clause in a red suit. Oh, that's so cute. Not ringing the bell.

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Free shipping and 365-day returns. Quince.com slash inside of you. But you had a pretty good childhood. I don't know. I think I was fine. No, I could tell you I didn't. Okay? That's how easy I could say I didn't.

You didn't? No. Why? Well, you don't want to hear my story. I mean, I could tell you some other time, but like, you know, just a lot of dysfunction. A lot of, you know, Ryan's heard it a million times. How fucked up on a scale from one to ten? Like 150 times.

How fucked up on a scale from one to ten? I don't know. I don't want to do that. From what you've heard. I mean, it didn't sound great, but you turned out okay. I mean, you're able to talk about it And you had a Hanukkah clause Yeah

You did have a Hanukkah clause You know the tough thing for me was My dad you said Oh, I'm not a good parent I don't put a roof over your head I don't give you a hot meal every night I'm like one of my a slave That's hard

So you had the kind of like a dominant Alpha dad of sorts It's just let's just say this My brother wrote something About the family of what he remember He woke up with a nightmare And he wrote stuff down And when he got to me, he read it to me, he said, and when we got to, and then there was Michael.

And nobody paid any attention to him at all. Oh. And I go, and you know what happened? That sums it up. And I remember I kind of cried a little, not a hard cry. Yeah. But I didn't cry to him. But I didn't cry because they didn't pay attention to me. I cried because someone acknowledged that. Yeah. So, but. You were seen for the first time. I was seen. Yeah. Aw. Yeah. I'm here all day. Oh, yeah. No, I'm here for an hour but no but it's you know it's uh so that's why i say i i know you know was my was it the worst no those some good moments sure but but are you in therapy yes yes always in therapy and

really worked on myself like good so much better than i was because i acknowledged the reasons why i do that i go oh that's like this is why you're doing that stop that stop you know yeah do you do that you find yourself doing that or yeah i mean i think that also falls into like taking accountability and like all of that and even for your own actions and looking at yourself with all that shit it's it's it's therapy is the best thing you can do I think and I was in therapy for the past few years and my therapist retired and I've been having really hard time figuring out like where to go and like it's like starting all over again you know and it's like oh fuck I got to start from the beginning like this whole story I that you know that and I hear you yeah I hear you it's like

when you want to change therapists and just they have to to hear everything you've talked about. So you built this relationship with this other person. But the reality is once you go to that first one and you talk the first time, you're like, okay, a lot of that was out. Second time, okay, now he kind of gets me now. We can move on. So it does move faster.

It seems overwhelming and daunting. But I think it, you know, you're thinking of getting another therapist. Oh, yeah. I need to. What makes you, like, what things do you do that you notice like, you need to see therapist? You lash out. Yeah. scream I'm fucking deep punch walls what do you do you know I just I think there's like I've

experienced like certain traumas like as I've gotten older right and I've noticed that my body like because your muscles store this trauma and I've noticed that my body can go into the trauma right if I'm if I'm triggered by something whatever it may be and so for me I'm like oh fuck like I need to work on this to figure out how to get through this and past this trauma. So I literally don't physically react. Like I'll, I won't be able to like eat and I'll be like hunched over and I'll be like in pain, like nauseous. I'm like, why can't I just talk myself out of this? And I really do believe that it is because your muscles store this memory. And so your memory is like the trauma. Oh, it's connected to everything. Oh, it's connected

to everything. Right. Yeah. And so it might not have anything to do with what the trauma was about. But it's, it's, it's, or no, it probably has to do with what the trauma was about. But and it just brings that out and that's the hardest thing and so I've heard a lot about is it EMDR yeah I did it I was gonna say it how was it mind boggling like in a good way I went in and I always heard the story like once right I mean 280 episodes I could fucking say you Ryan fuck you man um so I went to this place because I just needed to clear my head my friend Zach Levi went there he went there and he's like he's like I think you should go there and I go all right fine expensive but I was like you know thank God I could afford it I'm going to go and there were one of the classes one of the

therapists was an EMDR specialist and I went in there and we did like session and I go like I don't even know if I'm a candidate for this I'm already doubting myself trying I got to be great in this EMDR session she goes we're not going to do that today I go okay and we talked and then the next session we're going going and she goes oh and we're not going to do it today. And I go, okay. And at the end of that session, she asked me something and I mentioned something about my childhood jokingly. I go, oh, yeah. And then, and then this happened. It was just like, you're stupid. And, you know, Farley. And then I do that every once in a while. And then he goes, the therapist goes, she, she goes, I think we're ready to do this. I go, well, we got like 10 minutes left.

And she goes, no, do you want to do this now? I think we should do it. I go, okay. Okay, don't do anything. I want you to close your eyes. I want you to close your eyes and I want you to think of that moment. I want you to think around your surround, about your surroundings, what you were doing, the feeling you had. And I wanted and I started to think about that and really go there. And she goes, then I want you to open your eyes and follow my finger. And I kept doing it, doing it.

I'm like, this is bananas. Yeah. But I stay with it. I said, I'm here for a reason. And she goes, okay, close your eyes. She goes, what do you see? And I said, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. blah, blah. The second time I opened my eyes, hysterical.

Crying. Crying. It came out of nowhere where I wasn't even trying. Tears were just flowing. I'm like, whoa, I can't do this with acting. You know? And it went on and on and on for about 20 minutes. And then I opened my eyes and she said, and it was kind of, there was a through line. There was sort of the whole thing, you know, it started here. Emotional, emotional, emotional, build, build. And then by the end, I just, the therapist said, well, what are you thinking?

And I go, and all that came to me was, I forgive them. Oh, wow. I forgive them. And I was crying. And I was like, they did the best that they could do. And it was not good. And I didn't deserve it. And whatever.

And it was so cathartic. And she says what it does is it's like a big tree in a forest, that one big tree, you just knocked down. So now with the MDR, when you think about that. Because I would think about that story a lot. And it did bother. I mean, obviously subconsciously bothered me. Yeah, I was just in there.

And I don't think about it anymore. And if I do, if I try to think of it, it doesn't affect me. Wow. And that big tree also knocks down some little trees too. So it helps with other things. But the more you do it, the better. So when you say trauma, you don't have to go into it. But like, what kind of trauma?

Or do you not want to talk about? I mean, they don't probably bring it up if I talk. No, just things I've experienced, you know. You'll say you'll probably bring it up if I don't talk about it. Like if I talk about it. Like a relationship stuff? Some relationship stuff, yeah, for sure, you know, just shit. Life.

Just life. That happens. You know, you get older and there's so many experiences that you go through. Not all are going to be great, you know. Some are going to maybe leave a mark more than others. But yeah, it's just like, oh, fuck, like you're older and you're like, Like, for instance, I remember this is relating it to, like, work. Like, I was up for a movie and the character had been through so much and was pregnant

and whatever. And I lost the role to like a 20-something who had, I didn't have any of these experiences. And I'm like, so much has come from all these life experiences that I've had that I actually have a better understanding of how to bring it into my work. And I'm not like a schmactory type at all. You know, I'm not. You let things go, but this one. Yeah.

And it was like, well, no, not even that. I just mean schmachtering in the way of like, I'm going to be method and I'm going to, like, you know, like, you know, I just do it. Like, I have fun and I just go for it and I'd stay in the moment and I have a whole other whatever. Right. But yeah. But in this instance, I was like, huh, I'm older and I've learned so much. I can actually use this now, which you can't when you're 21. I'm sorry.

Like, it's just. Absolutely. You know. It's life. It's experience. That's why the older you get, the better, if you love the craft, the art, you're going to get better. Right. As an actor.

Sure. The more much, the more life you have. Right. you know you can bring it to a role you know yeah and i yeah i certainly do that i think that's why i was able to do it because i would definitely channel certain things i could go fucking dark right easily well yeah you were like a bad guy right oh yeah i mean in that yeah but like yeah some of those moments man where i went fucking bananas i'm telling you when you say method i'm not i'm saying i lost myself sometimes and i was like whoa whoa yeah it just you get i'm in

It felt great, but when you're not doing that thing. But it's from experiences. And that's, I think a lot of, you know, they always say comedians are really damaged. Yes. Most of them are. And they are. Right. Because there has to be some darkness, you know, to bring that humor because it overcompensates and they're brilliant and they're fucking hilarious.

But there has to be darkness there. I feel like there are some that don't have it. Maybe they're not as funny. I don't know. Yeah, maybe not. Jury's out on that way. Maybe Seinfeld. No.

I had a great life. I mean, everything was fine. My parents, they took me to yeshiva. I was bomb mitzvah. I made some money. I had a fine child. You had it fine. I wonder if Larry had it fine.

Larry, no. He was just, it was just neurotic. Yes. There were so much, so much craziness going on probably in his house like mine. You know, my mom's just off the law. Oh, yeah. She's like on Valium doing imaginary snow angels in the carpet. Is that right?

Oh, yeah. She was having a good time. She would come in the room and watch them. She goes, all you do is watch these fucking bad. Scream. And she leaves and stomps up the stairs in her nightgown at like 4.4 p.m. And my dad's like, Jesus Christ. And I kind of looked at him.

I mean, it was shit like that all the time. I could just remember my dad when he was, there was that moment before he's going to give you a smack. You go, when you see, when you see. saw that, you know, he's going to lurch out at you? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we didn't have like spanking in my house. No spanking. No, no. It sounds like your mom did maybe with all that sex. I'm just kidding. Get out of here. I'm just kidding around. She saved it for the bedroom. Um, do you, by the way, you're, you're kind of accident prone,

are you? Yeah. Well, how do you know that? Well, because you got in a horrible car crash as a kid. Does that make me accident prone? Was it your fault? No. Okay. Then you're a accident prone. I was, no. I was like, no. I was like, I was. I was like, no. I was. I was I feel like I've never. No. I got in a car that wasn't my fault. How does that make me accident? Well, you were there. You're prone to get an accident, whether or not they're your fault.

I was like, wait a minute. I was 14 in the back seat, but you know what? That makes me accident prone. No, like tripping and fall. Like, sure. Oh, you do that. Yeah, but I was in a horrific car accident when I was 14. Yeah, because Rob told me that it was pretty traumatic.

Yeah. Rob told you about my car accident? Or you asked. I asked. Oh, I was like, that's really random. I asked, yeah. Yeah. Why I asked, I said, you know, is there, you know,

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Ever wonder how dark the world can really get? Well, we dive into the twisted, the terrifying, and the true stories behind some of the world's most chilling crimes. Hi, I'm Ben. And I'm Nicole. Together we host Wicked and Grim, a true crime podcast that unpacks real-life horrors, one case at a time. With deep research, dark storytelling, and the occasional drink to take the edge off,

we're here to explore the Wicked and Reveal the Grim. We are Wicked and Grim. Follow and listen on your favorite podcast. platform. No, but it was traumatic, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, I say that, but like, I had a head injury, so I don't remember. I remember everything up until the point that the accident happened. So I black out. I have no memory of the actual accident. Helicopter to the hospital, Jaws of Life, like all the good stuff. You almost died? Yeah, I think so. I think like I lost, you know, the signs for a few minutes. You went code blue? I don't, maybe. Yeah.

I don't know, flatline for a second, maybe or two. I have the police report. You say maybe on all these things again. If I got in a horrible car accident and I was pronounced dead, I would remember these things. I wasn't pronounced dead. I mean, I feel like that would have been a big, you know, it's a big thing. Right. And I'm sorry for laughing.

Are you kidding? I have the best sense of humor about everything. I'll continue laughing. Yes, fucking car accidents are fucking hilarious. Yeah, I was in a car accident too. It was crazy. But how bad? No, no, I didn't. Nothing really happened. We were just lucky. We were like, we were going to Depeche Mode concert on the way back home, 1991 violator tour.

All I ever wanted is here in my arms. And we're going. And Rick Camacho's tires were bald and it's raining. And he's just going around like, you know, cars are coming this way. We're going. And it just hydroplane kept going into their lane. and I saw this truck coming. Oh, no. And I go, oh, my God. I grabbed my pillow and I went behind Jacob's. Jacob was in the passenger seat. And I just, I remember it took forever to hear. I was like, oh, oh, God.

Oh, and all of a sudden it was just silence. Ooh, that's. And I looked over and Jacob had like blood on his head. No. And Rick was like, oh, my God, oh, my God. And the car was smashed right up to their legs. Like right. another half of three inches, and their legs would have been gone.

Oh, my God. And it was, it was traumatic. So you remember all of it, see that. Because nothing, I remember exactly what happened. Because I was, I didn't pass out. But you lost consciousness were helicoptered out. Were you losing a lot of blood? I don't know about the blood.

It was like, I think part of my head was like kind of scalped a little bit. Like I have a scar, but it's weird. It stops like right here at my hairline so you can't see it. But it was like, yeah. Like, you know. black eye scalped up here. I think I was in a coma for like a little tiny bit. Oh, you with your parents?

No, no, no, no, no. I was with my friends, my friend who was driving, who was 16, and we were dating these guys that were older. They were not good guys. And partying on the beach, you know, Strawberry Hill, if you're familiar. Oh, yeah. Boones? Oh, yeah. Come on now.

How about little Bartles and James? Yeah, you know. Bartles and James? Of course. Ryan, you don't know shit. Too young, these youngens. Yeah, so, like, we were all kind of partying. It was in Oxnard, and we were driving in the dude in the passenger seat that was my friend's, whatever, was turned around on his knees, tickling the guy I was with who was, like, laying on me in the back seat.

And at one point, he just got his hand and he yanked the steering wheel, the guy in the passenger seat. We're on PCH going, you know, pretty fast. And he just yanked the wheel. And we went over into oncoming traffic. and we were in a little Ford probe, which is, I don't know if they make them anymore. They're really small. We hit like a big truck. Maybe it was even like a Mack truck.

No, one guy is paralyzed. God. The guy with me is mentally not well, I don't think. And I think he's in jail for murder. Maybe I shouldn't say that. I don't know. Yeah, but anyway, it was very gnarly. Oh, my God.

But I black out. Was your friend okay? Yeah, like her. foot was kind of like hanging off or something but she was okay and this is really uplifting story yeah the last image i have is his hand on the steering wheel and then that's all i remember why what do you've done that they were on drugs oh maybe speed i forget definitely not strawberry hill definitely not yeah no definitely not just that so you probably had to get did you go through therapy with that stuff rehabilitation or well no like we were in the hospital and like i said like it was a head injury so

I don't I always wonder though if at some point is it just going to come back to me like and that's a little terrifying like is that just going to like some time just pop up in my brain I wonder if the EMDR I guarantee it would well then I don't want to do it well no if you if you you choose the incident you choose the trauma okay you don't need to revisit that trauma no no it sounds like you do not I'm good with it you don't need to go back into something you know what I want to go back to this time where I almost died does it affect you no why do you want to go back there right i just do you know that's kind of fucked you don't want to do that no i don't want to do that not interesting but i'm glad you're alive i am too i am i am too i was 14 and it really changed things for me you know i was hanging out probably with not the wrong crowd yeah and uh it kind of set me on a different trajectory so grateful for that oh yeah yeah it was brutal like now that i'm a parent imagining like my parents getting that call that they're 14 year old you know in that massive of a car accident? I don't even.

It's awful. For some reason, it remind me of the Murdoch thing. Did you see the documentary? Wait, what? No, remind me? Is it the murder? Well, there's a boating accident.

Oh, it's a boating accident. And the guy was really drunk and he shouldn't have been driving and they told him not to. And he was like this kid, he's probably 14, 15. And he's driving the boat and they're drinking beer. And then he smashes into this bridge and it kills one of the girls. Oh. And, you know, his dad's the biggest lawyer in the town and Everybody's scared of him.

And he says, he comes into the hospital right after and all the kids are in the hospital. He goes in there, he's like, you're not going to mention who was driving the boat. Nobody mentioned who's driving the boat. And then he starts to pin it out. Have you seen the documentary? Wait, he pins it on someone else?

He tries to just, oh my God, this is a Netflix documentary that will blow your mind. Okay, I'm going to watch it. You have to watch it. I'm going to watch it. It's fantastic. So, yeah, you've had some trauma in your life. Had some trauma.

Again, you know, I think that makes for a better person. You're sort of like, hey, I've been there. I've done that. I've had this in my life. And look, I'm still here. I'm still doing. Do you, do you still love acting? Did I ever love act?

No. I do. No, no, no. In all fairness, I loved, like when I wanted to get into it, I was in the drama program in high school. I loved it. Loved it. The plays, everything.

I've loved everything I've done. Like, the shows, I'm so grateful for them. I don't love the business. I you know I think I am so blessed that I get to do that and I've I it's such a weird question I know what you're saying to answer you're grateful you're so appreciative for everything you've you've gotten you've received you've card for all that I do love it I love when I get to do it and I get to work but it's not everything to you now no I mean I have a kid that's everything to me things change I'm the type of person I am mom first always

No matter what, I put that above everything else. I've passed on things because my kid's the most important thing in the world. I love it. Yeah. So that's why I'm like, well, yeah, I love it. I love doing it. And when I can do it, it's awesome. It's so much fun and I'm so lucky I get to do it.

Right. But mom is everything. I just, I think something happened with me too where I just, like five years ago, I did a series. And then after it, I just sort of was like, yeah, I just, I don't know if I love it. just need a break. And I took a break and then it got a longer break. Then I did a little thing and then a little thing. I was like, I don't know, 14 hours a day fun.

Well, right, because there's that side of it and you don't want to ever sound like your complaint. No, I just, you know. But like, and then once I'm a mom and I went back to work when she was three years old and I was on like a two-hander and every scene. And I'm like, oh my God, how can I do this? Because you are sometimes 16, 18-hour days, you know, there's a lot of other things that go into it, which it's harder on your personal life. And if you have a kid, and I always joke,

I'm like, oh, you know, I always dated co-stars because you're not going to see anybody else. It's true. People say, well, why actors date actors? You're like, well, because we're unsettled. It's the only people we meet. Right. And then we're like, all right. How many co-stars do you think you've dated in your life? Well, I don't know. Would you say A3, B, seven, C, more than seven? I would say D, all of them. No, I'm kidding. I have had two public relationships that were co-stars. Right.

Everybody knows that. Do they? Well, one you had a kid with. Oh, yeah, I guess that gives that one away. Jumper, which is a great movie. Oh, thanks. That was so much. Oh, it's great.

Don't you love Jumper? I never saw it. What? You're a fuck. This is the last God. That wouldn't you say Star Wars, though? I wasn't in Star Wars. Yeah.

I don't know, man. that's what we know him from have you ever had situations where you're dating your co-star and it's just not going well on set now it's just a weird vibe and you're like fuck you know

obviously Adam and Brody and I dated on the OC and we broke up like right before the end of the show oh perfect yeah you know the timing was everything and we had to do the last I want to say couple months maybe but we got along really well And I would say it was the best Maybe it wasn't even a couple months

Maybe it was a couple weeks But it was like the best version of it Because I'm sure it could go A ride Yes I'm sure I hear that Yeah I've never

I did that in Germany once I was doing this movie That no one will ever see Don't ask me I was gonna say what is it No it doesn't matter Don't you even I know what it is

Yeah I don't tell me No no it's it don't even get What is it Ryan? Raid Macbeth Okay It was a movie that look it was it should have been good but then we had to dub the entire movie oh no they lost the

audio and now it's just a joke you watch it lost the audio yeah it was all gone i had to loop i i was the lead i had to do every line and it ruined i was in there going because i had an obligation i was like i don't want to fucking be here i just i can't believe i'm doing every line my performance i'm emotional and screaming and drug induced and like i'm going oh oh my god that's brutal But anyway, I was right away, we were, my co-star and I were really attracted to each other. Her name was Nikki Aycock. She passed, just passed away. What?

Yeah. She just passed away. It shocked me. I believe it was leukemia. Oh, my God. And I hadn't been in touch with her for years, but I adored her. She was so sweet. We got along so well.

And you know what? It happened. And then we kind of were like, you know, I'm like, hey, I'm my 20s. And I'm like, you know, and we started. But it ended up working. okay, but it could have been a disaster. It could have been a disaster, but we were both cool about it. That's good.

Yeah. You just hope they're cool people. Yeah. It's, uh, I mean, do you have sort of a propensity for going out with actors? Um, what does that mean? Uh, you know, just like is this, do you, does it have to be an actor or a producer or someone in the business? No.

It doesn't. No. I, look. No. No. It does not. God damn it. Uh, no.

of course not there is the thing that like they understand like what exactly you do yeah you know and they get it but and look yes my track record they're you know I have dated actors um you know you know it's funny I haven't you haven't I don't know I haven't ever I mean yeah no that's not true I have forget it I have I just thought about it I was like yeah you did yeah but not long term or a lot oh long term no okay Go on. It's you. Oh, okay.

Baby, it's you. I've been waiting for, remember that song? All of my life. Yeah, all of my. Yeah, all of my. Yeah. Sure. How old are you?

Forty-one. Are you really? Yes. Get lost. Okay. Bye. 41. When's your birthday?

August. August. So you're a Leo. No, I'm a Virgo. I'm at the end. I don't know anything about Virgo. Okay. Anyway.

Moving on. All right. So, yes, I understand the whole world. They understand your schedules and all that. But, especially, yeah. Yeah, but every time it's like, oh, I'm not going to date another actor, you know, but you're just, the people you surround yourself with. I think director, like, I love that aspect and, and they understand it as well,

but it's really just about people and people you meet. And if you, like, vibe well or whatever, and that's all it's about. You're right. It's just the people you meet more. You're at work a lot of the time. And so those are the people you spend your time with. That's all that it is. I know you went to Notre Dame.

I did. High school. Yes. And you went to. school with, you know, Remy Malick, who I think went to U of E, where I grew up in Evansville, Indiana. Yes, he did. Yeah, he went there.

Yes. I tried to get on the podcast. He hasn't returned my call. I said, hey, we're both Evansville. No, no care. Kirsten Dunst, Catherine McPhee. Do you talk to any of those girls, women? If I see them were always so.

You're never close. No, like, not super close. We were friends in high school, for sure. Rami and I were the, out of those three, Romney and I were the close. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And yeah, because we were in the same friend group. We were in drama together. Actually, Kirsten and Kat were in drama as well at the same time. I mean, Kirsten was already working and like off shooting things and stuff. So she wasn't always there. But they were always so nice. And Kat was like the cutest thing ever and had the most amazing voice. And it's so cool to see everything they've done. I mean, Rob is done all right, you know? I mean, did you win the Oscar? Yeah, he did. He won the Oscar for a...

He was always fucking amazing. Like, even in high school and the plays, like we would do the plays together. We did the Crucible together. He's an incredible actor. Do you think the OC will ever have a movie? A movie? Yeah, because they're doing movies

with all these shows now. I feel like it could be like a limited series. I'm going to throw that out there. Would you do it? Yeah, of course. Like, O.C., like Josh Schwartz is my family. Yeah, he cast you in another thing, a couple things. Yeah, but we're also like he's one of my best friends.

He's like my brother. Yeah. We're so close. I would, and Stephanie Savage as well. Like I always say I would do anything. They would just be like, you want to do this? It doesn't matter what it is. It'd be like, okay, yeah, when do I where?

Where do I go? But my pitch is a limited series. Let's do eight, maybe 10, probably eight episodes and call it today. Would everybody come back, you think? I'm trying to, we're trying to like break some people down to see. Oh, so you're already in on this? No, I mean, no. You are.

We have a few hard nose, so it's not going to happen probably, but... You won't even tell me the hard nose, well, yeah. I mean, if you Google it, I'm sure the hard nose are there to be right. The hard nose are there. I love that you did commercials for, like, Pepto-Bismol. They should have had me do that. Because you need it often? Maybe.

Not all the time, but... You like farts? Do I like them? I mean, are you cool with them? Okay, how do you feel about that in relationships? Open farting. um i i don't know i don't i don't think i i don't know i think it would kind of i don't know yeah no i don't like it yeah because it makes it more attractive yeah no like you hide that shit

yeah but if it can occasional like blast comes from the office that's kind of funny but like just keep it out of the bedroom keep it out you know i don't want to roll you into an enchilada and like blast you know there's a time and a place yeah i just think that you know you know No, I'm not, I don't ever, I don't like sharing that stuff. No, you're a, you're a close the door, leave me alone. Yeah. You disappear. You're one of those women who disappear and like, where do they go?

They must be pooping in the third bathroom on the third floor. Right. No, but we talk about this a lot on broad ideas. It's like when you go away on a trip with someone for the first time, right? How are you going to, how is that going to work out? That's the biggest concern. Where are you going to shit? I know what you do.

What do you do? Here's what I would do. What would you do? I'd probably say, hey, the pool looks really sweet. Why don't you head out to the pool? I got to take care of a few things. Interesting. Or you say, hey, I'm going to go check with the front desk.

I'll be back. I want to see if they have any massages. And then, pow. And then, you know, come back and go, you're like, what about the massages? I go, ah, they weren't there. What if they want to go with you? See, that it's true. No, no, no, no.

You stay. You stay there. I want to take care of this. I want to surprise you. Well, it's not a surprise anymore. You already told me. I know. But I just want...

It's something I have to do on my own. All right. I got to take a shit. It's a thing, man. It's a thing. All right, this is called shit talking with Rachel Bilsen. This is rapid fire. These are my top tier patrons, ask questions.

Patreon.com slash inside of you. I love you guys. They support the show more than I can... Awesome. I just clarify it's different from the segment we were just doing on shit. Oh, yeah. It is. It's not literal shit.

Yeah, you're very easy to talk to. Well, thanks. I mean, it's really easy. Is, is it not normally? Well, sometimes it's like pointing teeth. I mean, I know. I mean, we had one the other day. That was just like...

I know, it's hard, right? Okay, so, yeah, it was just no... We always have, like, questions to fall back on if need be. Yeah, I know. An arsenal. Leanne says, who has been the one person that always believe in you and have you ever paid it forward? Aw. You know what? I would say my mom because that's the obvious answer, but I'm going to give credit to my best friends, Olivia and Leah, because they have got me through everything and they're my lifelines. And now Olivia, my co-host and Leah sometimes fills in and she's off doing a movie. And your dad also said, if this is true, you should go into acting. My dad saw me the play I did with Rami and he was like, you know what? You're kind of actually good at this. Do you want to like do it? And I was like, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I do. And then that's... All right, so you were sort of there. You was sort of there. Little Lisa, what's the worst job you've ever had? Well, I had one... I can't say that. I had a job.

I wouldn't say it was the worst job. Okay, sorry. I was a hostess at Sicily, this restaurant in the valley for a short time. But my first job I ever got was for a Raisin Brand Crunch commercial, and I had to dance for 12 hours. And you only saw my butt in the commercial. And after I had to, like, I couldn't... I couldn't move.

I was very, I'm not a dancer, you know. So you hated that day. That day was horrible. No, it was good, but then after it was bad. In other words, you're in pain. Yes. Okay, that makes sense. The conjuring last rites.

On September 5th. I come down here I do you in your house. Hoor! Hooray! Array! The Conjuring Last Rites, only in the theater September 5th. You know, I got fired for McDonald's for... What?

For taking... You know how, at the end of the... It's closing. McDonald's does close. And I was just taking some leftover McRibbs that were in there. I've never heard anyone. And like, I love McRibbs. I've never tried a MacRibb.

There were like six left and I'm like, we're close. I'm like, I'm putting this in a bag. I'm going to bring him. My dad was picking me up and I went out there and the guy, the manager goes, Michael, what's in the back? What's in the box? I go, John Doe knows the up back. John Doe's got the other hand. Don't look in the box.

I go, oh, it's just old McRibbs. And he goes, what's the policy? I don't know. they were going to go in the trash come here please and we went and it was my third right up because i didn't mop the floor in arches that's i saw on my on my family's life they made me mop the floor in arches ring arches dip dip i'm not kidding oh my god i got written up for that i got written up for saying something to a customer like uh i was like i'll have the uh fry fry fry fries aren't good today or something like what do you mean i was like yeah i'm just i'm looking

out for you and they're like don't what are you doing oh what are you like fucking zaggots i mean all right julie church that's julie with one eye were you on board with the direction the OC took after one of the most iconic character deaths in teen drama was i on board with it i mean that's a question yeah we got we got Chay, also known as Chris Pratt. I got to go to Brown. No, it was, you know, I just watched the whole series back for this rewatch podcast. And it's really hard when Marissa dies. I mean, I couldn't watch it forever. Amisha and I wound up watching it together, like, during an interview for the podcast. And I realized, like, oh, man, it was a bummer when she left. But the fourth season, it's kind of like everyone was just having fun and it was funny and a lot lighter once you got through

the grieving stuff that I really enjoyed where they went with it. And the OC podcast is coming to an end. You're having Ben McKenzie on the podcast. Yeah, that's right. That's exciting. So listen to, and it's called the OC bitches. Right. And the new podcast brought ideas, which should have been broadcast.

Damn it. You know what? I'm still going to use it. We're going to put that in another segment. This is called broadcast. Yeah, broadcast. Okay, we're going to answer questions from this. Yep.

I like it. Sophie M quickly God Can you tell us any audition Or set stories from your time on Nashville Playing Alyssa Green Any stories? I don't know

I don't know What I I So I played I had you know a few episodes I forget how many I did And I was going on Nashville

My character was like I want to say she was a lawyer Maybe she wasn't She was something that wasn't an entertainer Right And I said well I'm going on Asheville. I have to sing. So they literally found a way to write in where I got to sing a song, which is so weird and random. Are you nervous? I was, I was, I wasn't, I was nervous,

but it wasn't as nervous because you go in and you record it before. And then you're just on set. So that went great. Okay. But there's amazing singers on that show. So I was like, oh, here I am, like carrying a tune. But it was fun. Super Sam. The OC dealt with a lot of big topics for teenagers and never seemed to shy away from anything that was too real. Do you have a favorite storyline or topic they tackled? Um, I think I like a lot of things they tackled. I just love Olivia Wilde so much. So when they did the whole, um, uh, story with Marissa and Alex, I thought that was cool. And like it wasn't, you know, there was a big thing because it, like, Fox like had a thing where like, you can't show them kissing too much or whatever, which is a bummer. And I wish if they could

redo it now, you know, they could do a little more with it because it was a great storyline. This has been a real good time. Yeah, this was great. I'm happy it worked out finally. Yeah, I know. You weren't easy. It wasn't easy. No, I mean, scheduling.

Scheduling was in. You have a podcast. Anything else coming up, just the new podcast. The new, yes. Broad ideas. Yes. And when does it come out? Now, it's out.

It's out. Well, you know. Every Monday. Dude, you should, I should come on. Dude, we've had, come. Will you come on? come on we've had really good people i would love to come on it'd be hilarious you should look up you can't you can't broadcast you'll be the first broadcast segment do there you go full circle

do you want do you want your daughter to be an actor no but she's already like shows all the signs like what she's so animated and mom she performs and exaggerates and like if she's reading a book with exclamation she's like but what do you mean timmy like it's like full on she has it in her I mean both of her parents you know are actors do you think you'll ever get married again I was never married I've never been married do you think it'll ever get married I don't know what I mean is something you have a kid I do have a kid I mean usually people get married to have a child children to have a children to have a child I do have a children and I think that I you know yeah Like that stuff, the legal stuff, it's like, do you need to deal with that?

Of course, I've always, I love clothes. Like, I would love to pick out a dress. Like, I don't need to get married and, you know, I wear dresses all the time. But, you know, why not? Like, you know, I guess in everybody's mind, you're always, you, perverbial, you was always thinking, you know, it'd be nice to have everybody there. And then, you know, I think my friends would be like, wow, he actually did it. He actually, oh my God. Or like, this is, and it's just like, hey, I found my person.

and then, you know, hey, we're not, you know, everything. It's just like, what else is there? You don't get with somebody to get married. You're with them. And then when there's nothing else, you're like, huh, you want to get married? I mean, we're already. I don't want that much.

I've always said I do not want to walk down an aisle and everyone looking at me. That makes me very uncomfortable. Yeah. Makes sense that I'm an actor. I know. They would probably look at you if we walk down the aisle. It's eyes on you.

That's for sure. What's what I would never, I just don't, I don't like that much attention. I don't like being the center of attention. Really? Yeah. Never have been. You always like the, you know, the person you're with.

Let them be the center of attention. Like, because you're quick. Yeah. I tend to be. But I don't know. I mean, I was always performing. So maybe I don't want to be looked at at a wedding. All right.

Fine. Fine. Just invite no one. I'm going to wear a sheet. Wear a sheet. That's how the Jews do it. That's right. They do it with a sheet.

Listen, that's right. They sure do. They do. All about it. All right. This has been awesome. Thanks for coming on the podcast. Thanks for having me. This was fun. Thank you, Rachel, for joining us. I appreciate that. I would totally marry her. Yeah, she's, you know, she's just, she's a woman. She's, she knows her shit. Yeah. She has her shit together. As far as I know, she has her shit together. I mean, we see what we see, but we don't always know. No, I mean, she appears to be out in the world doing things.

Yes. And doing a good job of them and being, uh, she's confident what she's doing. Yes, and talented and well regarded. And, uh, at home and at work. Yes. She has children. Yes. That's no easy feat.

That's no easy feet. I'm complaining about my dog. It's like, doesn't it? I mean, your dog's pissing and shit everywhere. Just thinking about the kids pissing shit and everywhere. Yeah. Changing those diapers every, well, I don't think they're that young. anymore. If you didn't listen to, oh, I'm not going to repeat it, but the inside of you pocket, inside

of you online store and all that other jazz, just rewind and you get all the information, where I'm going to be, where I'm going, all that. Are you doing anything? You've been traveling a lot, Ryan. I have been. Yeah, I've been all over. My sister's wedding and I've been everywhere, man. I've been everywhere. Yeah, I'm going back up north. See my parents again my aunt's getting married oh nice uh aunt taeus aunt uh auntie taeus antitia's my mom's sister is getting married a lot of people getting married your sister got married your aunt's getting married um it's a lot it's a lot oh then yeah then i have a friend in l.a getting married in september and we're going this bachelor party is going to be in august hey ron guess what what i'm not getting married oh here are the

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But as long as they can't, they just can't talk about future projects. I don't even remember the last time. these are so far in the can yeah so yeah they're in the can thank god i did that right there were so many there was i was going to do more too and i was like i can't at one point we had 20 we had 20 because i knew you were leaving town i was leaving town but i didn't know there was going to be a strike and so we're good for a little while yeah but um i'm going to have to start getting guests here in about a month so we're good for now um thank you for listening thank you for watching. I'm sorry, I didn't shower this morning. Ryan, did you shower? I did. You look

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