Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - SARAH SILVERMAN: Finding Humor in Tragedy, Standing Up for Yourself & Life Hacks for Rage

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

Sarah Silverman (PostMortem, The Sarah Silverman Program) joins us this week for a deep conversation about depression, loss, friendship, and Call of Duty. Sarah talks about her newest special PostMortem and her ability to pull humor from the tragic events in her life. We also get into traumatic experiences that shaped her early career, balancing a comedians need to people please, and life hacks while road raging. Thank you to our sponsors: 📞 Mint Mobile: https://mintmobile.com/insideofyou 👕 Quince: https://quince.com/inside ❤️ This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/inside and get on your way to being your best self __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou 👕 Inside Of You Merch: https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🤣 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod 🌐 Website: https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yeah. And it's because of that. Oh, yes. Well, so is mine. Sarah Silverman is here. She's wonderful. I've known her for a very long time. Her sister cast me in an MTV thing many moons ago.

And she always used to talk about her sister and how great she was. And then I met her. And then she took my money playing poker. And, um, but I find her just, uh, delightful. And, uh, I think you're going to really enjoy it. And, uh, you know, as you know, I don't get political. I don't talk politics on the show. very neutral i just want to enjoy and talk about life and everything and you know i don't do any of

that and so it's it's a great it was great conversation um she's uh she's just so smart and uh quick-witted enough bragging about her shut up sarah let's just let's just do the interview let's get inside of sarah silverman it's my point of you you're listening to inside of you with michael rosenbaum Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. Oh, we're talking about Jeopardy, Celebrity Jeopardy, how we wouldn't want to do that. Yeah, no, I know. Because, because why?

I mean, even if I knew the answer, which is, you know, not, maybe for Celebrity, Jeopardy, I might know answers, but I won't have access to it in that amount of time. It doesn't come to you as fast. I'm going to tell you something I'm 10 beats behind solidly Well, I'll tell you something that I do And I don't tell many people this But sometimes I'll pause on Jeopardy To give myself an extra 30 seconds

Yes, that's smart Just so, because I know the answer And I want to know that I know it And I'd rather feel somewhat smart As opposed to saying Ah, fuck Isn't it interesting that watching Jeopardy When you know something

And it's something that you would never Think that you knew but it was somewhere in your being. Yeah. And I always think of that movie Limitless. Oh, yeah, the pill? Like if my boyfriend and I will be like, if we can't remember something, we're like, take the limitless pill. We pretend to take the limitless pill.

And then it comes to you. It's in our brain somewhere. Like, we would not let ourselves look up. Neither of us could remember the name Colby Smolders. That's a hard name to remember. We're like, oh, shit. She's on, she's awesome. I don't, you know, met, meet your father, how to meet your mother?

How I met your father. What is wrong with me? How I met your mother, yes. See? Fucking sound like our parents. I can't remember anything anymore. I think you get an excuse after you're 45 or, you know, 50. Yeah, I like to blame it on weed because it just sounds cooler, which is sad.

Do you smoke a lot of weed still? No, I don't. Well, you don't see. Don't get off. No, I don't. But I do. I mean, I do as a, when all homework is done, I'll have a puff. But don't you think sometimes taking a few puffs and then writing some jokes is good?

Yes, but if I have. Too much. If I have to like prep for a podcast or I'm like doing, not like prep for a role, but like, you know, the night before my podcast, I'll work on, I'll sit and work on it or something. Then I can get high and work on it more. Right. He said write high, edit sober. I prefer to write sober edit high. Really?

Because to me, you do it high when you're writing the jokes. And then when you edit it sober, you realize, oh, that wasn't funny. That's true. Yes, when I'm high, I write things down. Maybe 2% of it is anything I would use once I look at it. But then when I'm working on it, I don't know. I guess you just go back and forth. Doesn't it suck, though, when you write something, when you're,

You're high and you're like laughing and this is the funniest thing ever. And then the next day you're like, why did it? That's not that funny. Like Brian Possein, you just have a joke about like writing something down high and then waking up in the morning and going chicken monkey. How did I put that together? Yeah. I mean, I do. I always write stuff down when I'm high and every once in a while it's good.

Do you have a go-to person that you go obviously your boyfriend, but do you like that you pitch a joke to and you know they'll tell you the truth? And it's not that funny or it's really funny. Oh, yeah. I mean, I really count on that. I think I surround myself with people who tell me when my shit stinks and constantly. Yeah. It's important, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, yeah.

It hurts the ego sometimes when you're like, no, you ever say, no, that is funny. You're not. Well, sometimes I'll say a joke and he doesn't think it's that funny, but I'm like, I still like it. Or I'll try a joke. And there was a joke I had on and off on. enough four years and not four years but for years three years and it never worked it just I couldn't get it to work but I I just didn't want to give up on it and then I'd give up on it or I'd cut it out of like whatever hour I was working out or something but I finally got it to work

in this last special I can't believe it it's so postpartum yes no not post post morton post morton that would be your next special postpartum's a good idea for a I always like to, like, I used to go on talk shows and be like, not bad for three kids. And that I'd be like, but I don't have three kids. But it would be really impressive. When you pitched, okay, this is the idea, post-mortem, it's about the death of my parents. Yes. Did you know this is funny?

Because right when I look at that, I'm like, this is comedy. This is funny. Just that alone. Like, I want to hear that. I want to hear about your, did you have a lot of dysfunction? In my family? Yeah. Well, yeah, of course.

yes but it really like this is this special it digresses many of a lot of course but it's really about when my dad and my stepmother died two years ago this coming may oh boy nine days apart and it was just great it was just a it's funny because when my people in my family have come to watch this show you know i always go like listen it's comedy you know whatever but they can't believe it it's all true. Like, which, which I don't feel like is a selling point because I'm not beholden to the truth at all. But it, what, it was. You couldn't write this. And you did. Hey, you couldn't write this, folks. But you wrote it. But I did. Yeah, no, it was, I've never had a special come out so soon after another special, but they were dying as my last special came out. So I was at square one

when all I had to talk about was like the only material I had to work off of was, like, the only material I had to work off of was the eulogy I gave at my dad's funeral like because there were a lot of funny you know he was really funny right but it wasn't like they died you go oh this is great material it was like I'm going to suffer for a while and then you kind of wrote it was brutal but how do you how do you I mean everyone gets through the shit you know the way they do yeah but I'm not unique no but I you know you always you can't really understand it until it happens right and then it happens and there's this numbness that you get. Grief, listen, we've had a lot of people, friends, family die, right?

I mean, when your comics are in the comedy world, it's, you know, pretty constant. And, you know, you learn that grief is you can't control it. So just be along for the ride. You know, when my mother died, I didn't cry at all. And then, you know, you just like two weeks later when I'm home and in line at Gelski, since I just start sobbing you know like it's just you can't control it just let it do its thing were they expected deaths no well one we always joked about and assumed that my dad would die first my stepmother was like she was 80 but you would never know it and she was like really active

and loved she was like incredible athlete and um just very alive and loved that's just very alive and Loved life, but she got cancer out of nowhere, stage four pancreatic cancer. And listen, we would have them record their doctor's appointments and posted on our WhatsApp chain, our family WhatsApp chain, when they were older, so that we could listen and make sure everything was being taken care of. And this one we knew was going to be really bad. I talk about it in my special, but it's listening to it was crazy because it really showed who my each parent was like, Janice is so, you know, that you hear the doctor go.

Janice, I'm so sorry to tell you this, but you have stage four pancreatic. And then you just hear this very loud, low rolling fart. And I know it's my dad. And it's not like I had never heard him. fart before. I've never heard him fart. It's not like no dad farts all that. It's a far. It is a fart. We played it over and over and over, needless to say. What a punchline. And I know it was my dad because he did not have the tools to deal with this. So like his body took over. So of course, now I'm sitting there going stage four pancreatic. What?

But I pieced it together. It was cancer. Anyway, the craziest thing was their reactions because you hear Janice and she's so Janice like she just goes well I'll just do everything you tell me I'll just I'll fight it and I'll just do I'll do everything you say you know and then my dad I'm moving the mic away this is what you hear on the WhatsApp I'm alone no I'm fucking serious and then he said I'm a widow emotionally I had to call him and say, dad, you cannot speak this way in front of your alive wife. It was crazy. I'm sorry for laughing.

This is really horribly funny. And then he's crying to me, like, I don't want to be here without her. Oh, God. And I've never heard him cry, and I'm trying to console him. And I said, well, you know, statistically you won't. And, but I didn't know that would come true. They died nine days apart. but um she died it was so tragic because she loved life so much and then his death was like amazing

because he just wanted to go he wanted to be with her yeah and uh he probably could have lived a little longer but he was like uh lights out yeah and we just kind of duled them through death i'm dealing with my mom stuff a little bit right now tell me which just you know memory stuff and she probably doesn't want me to talk but you know i wanted to do a bunch of tests and you know then i was like, well, I need the numbers of the tests. I need the results. And then her husband in the background, Gordon, he's like, you know. Gordon.

He's just like, we gave him the fucking test. What else does he need? And I go, Gordon, I want you to take a deep breath. Take a deep breath right now. You're upset, but we're all in this together. I'm trying to help you. I just need certain things. It's hard for him to do anything to get, you know,

all I need is to get her to do these tests, these memory tests, to get her to it's just very difficult and it's weird with the old me i would have been like don't fucking raise your voice like that to me what do you but i have changed so much where i noticed i'm like gordon take a deep breath relax we're all trying to do the right thing for mom here okay so just and then well i'm sorry for yelling at you he's like king of the hill yeah well you know i love gordon too but he's he's a bit of a pain in the ass he's doing the best he can with what he's been given i think he's just kind of like uh that's not right that's not right but i'm not going to address it i'm just going to keep on going and that's sort of the way it goes and my mom's in

complete denial but like i'm just trying to figure out what it is and i'm hoping it's not dementia i'm hoping it's but you know there's there's she sees two gordon's sometimes not sees them but she knows that that's not that's not gordon that's not my husband but it is and i'm like mom you know how irrational that sounds there's only one gordon no michael you have to understand i know rationally that it sounds ridiculous but there are two there are i don't know this this one well she's speaking metaphorically or no no no no she's she's not going no this guy's an asshole i know that guy right michael i'm kidding i they're obviously no it's not that so i don't know what it is so i'm trying to figure it out but i'm not a doctor

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just no one even knew it. I just thought that was just me. That's normal. That's, and I'm like, I can't, this is not any way to live. I can't keep going like this. The older you get, your body breaks down. You can't fight or flight constantly. And it wasn't until, for me, it was Lexapro.

And it changed the game. It completely changed the game for me. And it's like, so Zoloff changed the game for you. And I'm really lucky because you really have to commit to trying different things and finding the right match. And I got lucky. Zoloft was just the ticket. I started on Zoloft in 1994. Wow. My auntie Martha.

That's what we call her, but I know it sounds weird to other people. She is a therapist, and at that time... Wait, your aunt is actually a therapist? Yeah. Oh, I thought you were kidding. No, no, she is. Antie Martha. She's like our last remaining elder, and she is not allowed to die. She's like all of our best friends. But she back then was like, I think you should try, you know, this. Because, yeah, my life was not my own. And, you know, it's funny because when I was 13, 14, 15, I went through a chemical depression of paralyzing extent. And I, my parents didn't know what to do.

It was like the 80s. and they didn't know what was coming from. And some quack put me on Xanax and then just upped it, up did it, up did it. I was 13 years old and doesn't seem true, but it is, had me on four Xanax four times a day. But when you say four Xanax, are you talking about the two milligram big pill?

I have no idea. But it was four. It was a small pill. But you're a kid, you're 13. I took four of them four times a day. And I felt like this can't be right. I remember keeping all the bottles in a shoebox. I just was like a zombie.

And I finally went to this other psychiatrist in New Hampshire, another outlier, a Mexican man. They were like, no Jews, you know, and he couldn't believe that I was on that. I mean, whoever that was who prescribed it was like a registered nurse whose husband was a doctor, blah, blah, blah. She should be in jail, but she's probably dead of all. old age but um or from zanax yeah but it's crazy he got me off of it very slowly like a half a pill a week less at the time you can you know and when i took that last half a pill i was like back to myself again so i had a horrible experience with meds but when i tried zoloft um it it it i didn't feel quelled or you know like what people feel on some meds i i've and a lot of people i i

I have friends, is that an Ellen puppet? No, that's actually me and the show called him Pastor that I did for two seasons. It kind of does look like Ellen. From this angle and without my glasses, I was like, is that a puppet of Ellen? I'm so aware. I do feel like there are people that go, I'm not going to go on meds because I need to be in control. And to me, that's fine for them. Well, that's fine for you.

right but for me zoloft gave me control i was able to be myself again and not be in completely paralyzed oh man and going to different uh trying out different things i remember i took something and it was my 50th birthday and i went to a restaurant and i had it full on anxiety attack and i told everybody i was like hey uh i i want to go home right now i just uh i don't feel well you know and were you there no um it was it was it's so terrifying but like you have to go through that sort of difficult stage of going through to see what works for you so lop may not be right for you uh lexpro might not you know so it's it's hard but it's it's a godsend when it happens when you're just like oh wait a minute i'm not sweating because i'm doing something that i

really shouldn't sweat for you know i'm having a meeting i shouldn't be it's just the fucking meeting. It just gives me a little bit more, you're okay. You're all right. It's just, well, it's a serotonin re-uptake inhibit or so. It fortifies the serotonin in your brain, which is what helps you cope.

Sometimes that bridge breaks off. And what's all off does is just fortify that bridge. Did you ever have an anxiety attack on stage? You don't stand up or a movie or anything? You know what? The rare times that I've gone on stage stoned, which brings literally my two favorite things stand up in weed and makes it a living nightmare have been that. So you've tried it more than once thinking, okay, the first time was horrible, but maybe the second time is going to be better. Well, no, it's more like, well, the whole year I was 20, I was stoned on stage, but that was just, I didn't know better. And I wasn't, I was fine on stage, but I didn't like write anything or just.

discover anything new in that year, you know. And it just doesn't work for me. There's so many comics that get high and are sharp as attack, laser focused on stage. That is not me. No. Yeah, you kind of add that just your thing. You just kind of have to do your thing. You know what I mean? Well, that's the ultimate thing is what works for you. It's not going to be the same as what works for even your closest person, you know. Do you, have you ever done a joke that one of your closest friends was offended by and really was mad at you um probably boyfriends i remember i did a special a few specials ago and i was with a guy lovely man i was with for a few years and we were really i'm going to use a showbiz term on the bubble okay i didn't like we were about to either

break up or stay together i wasn't sure and i i shot the special twice i'll usually do two you know shoot it two times and one time I say my boyfriend blah blah and the other one I say my ex-boyfriend blah blah whatever just because I by the time it came out I know which would be true and he was sitting on the side of the stage for both tabings you know I just thought it would be funny he wasn't actually mad he kind of understood but it was definitely like that was the most you know like brazen listen I you're right we're on the bubble we're on the lack of a better word no I don't I said that to it. But yeah, I mean, you know.

Do you, if you look at the business as a whole, do you, do you, do you love it? Do you love what you do? Do you, or do you kind of like think every day party wants to go, I just want to disappear? For different reasons, yeah, but, and it's, I do, I love, I love what I do because I do odd jobs. I'll act in, you're the same way. I have a podcast. I act in stuff. I'm a stand-up in my, in my,

I like doing all sorts of things, you know? Because you get bored. You get bored. Or I'll do something with talking or I'll, you know, I don't, I don't, I, but it's funny. Like, maybe it's I get bored, but I also am very much into ritual. I don't get my boyfriend doesn't, I could eat the same food every single day for every meal. Me too. Why do you take a sip of that?

I mean, it's huge. Do I sound like I need a set? No, I just said, you know, you haven't had any water. Like an NPR mouth? Oh, I would tell you, you know that, that thing. You don't want that. No, it's so bad. It's terrible.

But, you know, yeah, you get bored, but, like, you know, what else would you do really? Like, I'm not looking to go out. I have missed epic things because I just couldn't leave my house. That's, I feel the same way. You know, yeah. Yeah. I've missed my career by just sitting in the house. I mean, truly.

And now, and. It's ridiculous. I've been, I've become truly obsessed with Call of Duty and it's all I want to do. Oh, no. I was like, I was like, the S&L 50th. And I was just like, I don't know, I just be home buying Call of Duty. You could see it. You close your eyes.

All I can see the screen. Yeah. Call of Duty is badass. I love it so much. And I don't know what it's giving me. I don't know what it's adding to my life. I can lie to myself and say it's meditative. It's not. It's

totally stressful. But I mean, it's not really. But, you know, you're in war. You ever play with Aegee, Steve, our good buddy? He plays that shit. No, I have him on my very few people that I, but he doesn't, I don't think he plays. He doesn't play Call of Duty. He never plays Call of Duty. He plays, like, things with, like, fruit. Aji's like the most laid back person. I love him so much. We're Marco Polo friends. Yeah, you know.

You did. You actually got to hang out with him last week. It's so funny because we're both set shed-ins that we... He's a comedian. If you don't know, he's also, like, out-of-town shooting, like, six months of the year. Yeah. Which is amazing. Yeah. If you ask him, question, like, Steve, how you doing?

Pretty good. Well, do you know this app, Markopolo? Yes. It's old. I guess, yeah. I think, like, old people use it. But I use it with a lot of comedians and stuff. And it's just so funny because...

It's like a walkie-talkie, right? Well, it's like a video. texting right right right you know but it's just it's video and but you get to it when you get to it and then you respond whenever like i don't it's less urgent than text sponsored by call a duty marco polo and soloft and lexapro but ag leaves me messages and i have to play it on a two speed because it's it's he talks so slow and his voice is so low that it doesn't his voice is still low on a two. Yeah.

It just doesn't. How much do you care about what other people think of you at this point in your life? And have you gone to a place from a place where you always cared too much and you drove you crazy to where are you now? I never had it to the extent that I've seen people have it. They need that. They crave it. They need that immediate.

Yeah. Like I have a lot of friends that just like what we were saying about staying in and I mean, I'm famous and my friends for like there will be a. birthday party with all of my friends a block away and I still didn't make it, which is an example my friend Tall John uses all the time. I love Tall John. I'm bad. And when I have new friends, they might eventually go, I'm always the one that reaches out and it's never you. And I, it's not because I'm doing other things. It's just I'm. I can't. If I can be home, I want to be home. But I do, when I do go out, I'm psyched to that I went out. But.

yeah that's how i feel yeah but pretty much it's like caring about what other people think oh of course i do i mean i think any comic especially is like a people pleaser but um i don't spiral into i said this thing and they must think that like you let it go you let things go and it's like so scary to me i've you know the zolaf thing is also what it helped with is being able to learn more in cognitive therapy, which has to kind of co-cited hand-in-hand with it. And I've just learned so much, and it's a practice. You know, I obviously, you know, it's funny on my podcast, someone asked me about my misophonia, you know, like I get sound sensitive.

Right. Like, on the spectrum. Like, I have sensations and sounds that I can't. Like, what are some sounds that bother you? Well, it only happens if there's any stress in my body. But, of course, that's a lot of the time, you know. But like rappers, pen clicking, mouth noises, you know, like, I mean, Rory will like make me dinner. And then he'll be putting it away and the rappers.

And it's like, this man just made me food and is now cleaning it up. And I'm mad. And I'll turn around and be like, is that almost over? And he'll just laugh because he knows it's so fucked up, you know. But now we have these huge headphones that my dad actually got me that are gun range headphones. and I just put them on. And I mean, I really am like a one, you know, I think a lot of us are in the spectrum. I think that's true.

I think a lot more of us are. And it's quite a spectrum, obviously. But someone was like, you know, I'm, I try to say on my podcast, I'm my best self for this hour. Like, please don't think I've got my shit together, you know, but someone was saying like, how do you handle it? And I was like, you know, I either take myself out of the situation. and if I can't do that, like a lot of times it's like a sound person chomping gum with like a boom in their hand.

And you just have to appeal to their better angels and say, this is not you. It's me. I have like a fucked up sound thing. Would you mind spitting your gum out? And you know, like, and you know what? They will. Like, and I go, I'm so, I'm so embarrassed. I'm so sorry, you know, and they're cool about it. You know, the old me, your reaction because it's chemical rage that gets turned up. So he'll be like, could you? Anyway, so I'm explaining what I do And if I can't do that I'll just take myself out of the situation And my friend Darren Called me and he was laughing He's like I listened to your podcast He goes

You didn't mention how like when I was eating nuts You were like Are you done with the nuts? Of course like the people closest to you Your horrible self with But I try to be you know better But I was laughing so hard It's like

I used to be like that with every sound. You don't hear those people talking in the plane in front of us. Are you talking for everybody here? What the fight? Everyone else is reading. No one's, I'm freaking out. Yeah.

You know, but I don't know. Maybe it's the Lexapro, but I have a leaf blower. And the battery pack, you have to charge it. And it goes, and it makes the sound. It keeps going for like 10 minutes. And my system one day was just like, uh do you not hear that sound i'm like yeah it's right in front of me it's the leaf blower battery

it's like that doesn't bother you and i go no no it doesn't it was weird it was like this helped that yeah i don't know maybe it just it's not but yes i understand that certain sounds but you're a little more extreme but it's really like if there's if i'm carrying some kind of stress in my body then I'll recognize it. But, yeah, some other sounds don't bother me at all. Like, I have a Todd Barry. So funny. He was talking about it because he has it too.

And we have some of the same, but we have very different ones, too. Like, he's like, whistling. Oh, when fucking people whistle. And I'm like, really? I whistle all the time. That just bothering me. Yeah. So, I mean, it's, they don't make sense.

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ever experienced other than with his, I mean, she was so much more than an assistant, but his kind of life partner in work, but in life and everything. He didn't have a license. She drove him everywhere. Lorry Joe. I think that was the, I mean, I have no doubt, but it's speculation because that that's the closest relationship. Did he make you laugh a lot? Oh my God. Enormous. You would put him in the top 10 of people that make you laugh? Yeah, maybe. Yeah. I mean, he's brilliant. He's the best. I mean. And he would say anything. He pissed people off and he didn't care. God. And I always was, and not with judgment. Maybe I can't say that, but I really don't think with judgment. I thought of it. And I have a lot of friends that are God people, but I always was

surprised by his unwavering belief in God. It just did not track with his personality in any way to me. I mean, he would say something so ridiculous that you think he, that his next joke would be like, and then there's God, you know. And God, supposedly, he did all these things. And he created the world, and you're ready for a punchline. But you're saying he really, you know, believing. He did. I think that's beautiful. But yeah, he's, Norm is amazing.

Lots of weird, funny experiences with him. Yeah. But he's, yeah. You, you have, like, worked with the biggest you've, I mean, you know all the stars. Everybody knows you. You're a name, whether you like it or not. Yeah, I do. I know an insane amount of.

Yeah, people. People that I go, oh my God, like teenage me would not believe. Do you do that? My life. Yeah, I think about it all the time, but I don't carry that with when I'm with that. Like, I've become a little friendly with Steve Martin, you know. Yeah. And he was my, not was, he is, but I mean, my number one, like, worshipped him all through my teens and through today.

but I don't like stare at him like with you know I don't try to bring teenage me to like I know that feeling when someone is like sycophantish is that a word yeah and it separates you for you can't be close to them you're like oh it's this you're drawn more to the people that are like comfortable with you but in a way aren't you sort of faking it deep down like you're doing a good job of acting letting him know that you're cool I want to to say yes, but it's really, no, I think I just, I, I'm, I don't, I, I've, I've, I've gotten very good with just being in this moment. It's a practice, of course. Yeah. But I don't really carry all that with me, because it's, even if it's positive, like, wow, I'm with my, my, my, you know, idol. It's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, like, something that separates you. And. Yeah. I did that, I did that when, uh, I, I, I do that when I worked with Stallone. I just I absolutely went up and I was just like hey I heard you talking about doctors and just got in and started talking about my back problems and his back problems and we just started hanging and like I could tell he liked me and after like a week

or two working like you go hey Rosenbach come over here what do you like look when you when you had who's your doctor doctor yeah he's an asshole he never fucking text me but like real conversation but sometimes I go like oh my god Rocky's talking to me yeah I'll say

think that i'll think it but i won't say anything i really would fuck with him and he loved it yeah i think they that's true i i i heard um this one actor um worked with stilone worked with deniro and they went in his trailer after goes and i was like hey mom why don't do you come in i don't do a great i'm like well let's come on the trail and have a drink you know it's the end of the shoot it's done and he goes in there and he's like hey can i just say something to you he's like okay he's like you're the reason why i started acting you're the ball and started going And he goes, you don't have to do this, you know, you know, let's just have a drink. And he's like, no, no, I want to get this out of my system.

Just let me say this. And I go, well, did that do, did it do well? Did you do? He goes, no, it was the most awkward. Because I don't think. It really, it makes them feel like, oh. I thought you're just like one of us. Yeah, I feel like that it puts a barrier between you.

Like, you're not, you know, I don't know. I do think that it's. Like, you're, you haven't removed. move that you're still like in awe in a way you're still like the person like you know if i went up to him like he's like oh fuck you know he's not going to want to hang out with me or talk to me you know because i'm an idiot but like i i love i do i am like i love tv and there i watch a lot of what do you watch i mean it's all over the place but i mean right now i'm watching the pit is it good it's not something that i would have

thought to watch, but I have friends that are like, watch it. And I'm, it's so fun. Is it intense? It's so good. Noah Wiley? It's so, he's unbelievable. I love Noah Wiley. I'll watch it. Just the, on a acting level, the medical jargon that they are spewing out. That's why I will never do a medical show. I mean, they must have notes all over people's bodies. But it's, it's unbelievable. But not that that's the reason. It's so real. engaging it's there's never a dull moment it's fucking great um i just watched severance i didn't see that oh my god did you watch um penguin no i'm not really you know that stuff but i'm not either really but this is it's more mob than um superhero or anything it's more like a mob story

almost kind of all right did you see golden greed documentary no it's that dude watch golden greed on Netflix. Golden greed or gold and? And greed. Oh. It is the story of this guy who buries a treasure and all these people around the country start looking for this treasure and people die along the way and all this. It's awesome. It's a documentary?

It just came out. It's a documentary three-part series. People die? Well, they could. I want you to watch. I don't like stuff like hands-on hard body and- Oh, I love that. I mean, it's a great documentary.

But American movie? It's my favorite. I love American movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love American movie. You know what I love about American movie and I haven't seen in a long time? But it was so brilliantly, the storytelling was so brilliant because it isn't until like halfway through that you, that you're, this guy you find out has a kid.

You're like, what? You know, like it's kids? Yeah. Like they revealed things in a, so beautifully. It was the way they unfolded the story. You love all the characters. Oh, my God. Quote it in bed before I go to sleep to my girlfriend.

What do you say? Like Uncle Bill, you know, he's like, you know, and he's always like, he's a crumajun. And they're like, Bill, how much money do you have? He goes, $285,000. At least that's what they say I have. I don't know if it actually is. Hmm. You know, it's just like lines like that.

Like Mark's drunk and he's talking to his uncle Bill and he's like, Bill, it's because he's trying to make a movie. He's like, it's all about cinema. And he's like, cinema. no no cinema that's good I guess just I just love

I can't stop quoting this movie and it's 25 years old 30 years old I love that kind of show I love documentaries I love yeah but I have to watch the pit you can get protein at home

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And I really appreciate you. Thanks. You ever been intimidated by an actor? Um, yeah, early on. Like who? Well, I feel like I've told this story before, and I feel kind of bad about it, but I'm sure he's a nice man. You don't have to tell it. Well, I did an episode of Seinfeld.

I know, yes. And I was later in the seasons. And at this point, they would do a live recording on one episode, and then they'd do a pickups. Shoot, no. Then they'd do an episode just shot without an audience. And then they'd shoot with an audience and they'd show that audience the one that they recorded without the audience to record the laughs. It just was an easier way to do probably 22 episodes a year later in the, is my guess. And I played Kramer's girlfriend. And the first thing, and obviously I'm like, I can't even believe I have this part on Seinfeld, you know, oh my gosh. And I get in the. the first thing we shot because it was we're shooting like that was us in bed and he's scared and I'm nervous it's our first scene and I have a line that's like he's he's scared about so he hears a noise and I say the line is it's probably the wind and I accidentally say it's probably the rain

and he broke character and he goes do you see rain in that window oh that's horrifying i go no he goes then why did you say rain is there rain in that window right now did it almost make you cry i i was yeah did you play it off like oh yeah yeah yeah of course jesus no i said well i just made a mistake i you know but he had like a the tantrum and i she should be nice you know but listen everyone i'm sure he's come a long way since then whatever or people have days. But I was young, you know, and I don't know, I was like, maybe I was 27. And that hurts.

But the next day, we were shooting in Monk's Diner and we were sitting at a little table for two and we're waiting to shoot. We're just like sitting there. And he's talking to me like I'm his buddy and goes, and, you know, he's like rich. You know, I have like two roommates, you know. And he's like, I don't know why. I'm looking at a house on. Laurel Canyon, but maybe I want to get that, you know, and I just go, I don't give a fuck.

I, like, mustered up all my energy to say it. Yeah, I go, I don't give a fuck. And he kind of was like, knocked off kilter. And then he was lovely to me for the rest of the time. And then he even, like, called me. He's like, afterwards. And he was like, um, should I get back into stand up? You know, he never apologized for that.

No, nope. It was just his way of saying, hey, you're, you're okay now. but yeah how you treat something like that i was i don't need an apology and i kind of was able to that was the first time i remember standing up for myself by just going by just giving fuck off i'm not saying it was right that i said that but but it felt right and it and it recalibrated the dynamic you know but you know just when i was younger and more vulnerable is when are the times that I was taken advantage of in myriad ways. And of course, like, men don't try that with me now because they wouldn't dare.

Right. But you shouldn't do with anybody. Nobody should be fucked with. But it's always the vulnerable that are right for the picket. Right, right. It's interesting. And, you know, I'd love to get, I'd love our culture to get to a place where we just take care of each other. You know.

I know it sounds corny, but it's so true. It's like, it's so much easier to just be kind. It just, it is easier. Yeah, it is. Listen, you know, energy is, this is woo-woo, but it's science. It's contagious, right? So if you're driving and you accidentally cut someone off and you know they're going to come and be fucking ragey at you or you feel, now you feel it, you know, they give you the finger and now you have it and the next person gets it. from you. And I, I do have a way of, of ending that, which is fun, which is like, if someone

like honks at me, like they're pissed behind me or something, I look in my rearview mirror and pretend that I recognize them, like that we know each other and I'll go, oh my God, hi! And they get, they get terrified. That's brilliant. And then also, if I do fuck up on the road, which we all do, and I definitely do, and the person's like now coming and they're, and they They feel rage at me, and I understand, I will always roll down my window, and by the time they get to me, I'm like, I am so sorry. I'm such an idiot. And they, it makes your, it dissipates their rage. Right. They feel better. Now they can take care of me. Oh, it's okay. Don't worry about it. And it's lovely. But it, you can really undo that rage in someone. You could shut it off. By just being, listen, I did fuck up. I cut the guy off. Or, you know, I didn't mean to or I did something. Yeah, I'm just fucking sorry. It's, it's, it's, it's. doesn't take anything away from me to like just be like I'm so sorry yeah you know I cut someone off once I remember and they pulled up they go what the fuck I go I'm an asshole I'm an asshole and it melt I apologize and they go they took off you know because they were like what what is he

doing is he apologizing that doesn't exist I love the challenge of taking down someone's rage you know that is a good challenge and it's easy with just a little corny to say little love little loving from the oven uh this called shit talking with sarah silverman this is rapid fire these are my patrons patron dot com slash inside of you oh brilliant and uh here we go roj says tell me about a time you felt conflicted between who you felt you were versus what people expected you to be that's that's a big one uh oh i have a good answer to that i think after my first big special which was like the culmination of just my best material for my whole stand-up career up until then, you know, right? And it was a lot of surprise, a lot of elements of shock value,

a lot of, and I didn't, I had never had to go back to zero. So now that came out and it was successful and I still just had that material. And then I realized I have to throw that away and start over. And then I had such an identity crisis because I was like, okay, they want me to shock them or surprise them and then but then I am giving them what they expect so how do I even it just made my brain melt and then I had to learn that comedy dies in the second guessing of your audience you just have to keep writing what you think is funny right now and if you lose people you leave you know if you gain people great you know whatever but you just can't, you know, there are comics that get famous on one thing or one character or one vibe,

and they feel beholden to that for the rest of their career, even if they grow outside of that or if they, you know, and it's, then they become kind of a caricature of themselves, you know. I mean, even you could do that with me and just go like, vagina. It would still be pretty accurate, you know, of course. It would still be accurate. But, you know, I don't know. You have to be brave enough. And I watched this, I remember seeing this like really learning it from Chris Rock where he just, he goes to zero.

Right now I'm at zero, you know, I just did this special. I'm at fucking zero. I tried new material last night. It was so bad. You bombed? No, because the audience is so warm and they know I'm just trying, throwing shit at the wall. But if it was like a, if it was presented as a polished set, yes, I would have bombed. I mean, I still can eat a bowl of shit in the right.

And you can deal with it. But you have, yeah, Rory, my boyfriend's like always impressed at how well I take failure, you know, on stage, because I know it's part of the process. That's what I watched Chris Rock. He would do a special and just be brilliant and all the stuff. And then he'd walk into the cellar, the comedy seller, the audience goes, fucking bananas. And as much as you want to give them your best, you have to start at zero. And he is fine with it. He goes up, he tries jokes, and he is willing to absolutely disappoint this crowd because he has to try new material.

And he doesn't judge it and he just does the work. Does he preface it with like, hey, I'm about to give you some new stuff. So, hey, might suck. Yeah, yeah. But to go from, oh, my God, oh, my God, it's Chris Rock. And to be able to go, I'm not going to do stuff that I could do and no kill. I have to figure out, you know, you, the audience is half of it. So you can't, like, hone it in front of the bathroom mirror.

You've got to do it on stage. And that's brave. That is absolutely brave. So, you know, I had to learn that. I had to learn that. Taylor Art. That was a really, this is the speed round, by the way. No, no, but no, I'm glad you took the time.

No, I am because that's great. Taylor Ard, you have a favorite role that you've worked on? Lots of things for different reasons, but I mean, kind of the Sarah's Open program, but also I did a short that I loved, that no one saw. And it was, it's called, it's called. What's it about that will help you figure? I don't even know how to explain it. It's just a weird character piece that these two brothers wrote, the knee brothers. The knee.

N-E, yeah. And it's, it's. It's called, you never really know someone. And it's, I don't know, 15 minutes long or something. And I just loved it. Wow. I love comedy that's played straight. I always think it's interesting when comedy doesn't get like the same respect as drama because it's, it's the same.

It's, you're just playing something honestly. Yeah. I think it's harder to do a comedy series because it's, it seems like it's more work where it's like, A drama, you have the lines written, you act, you act well, and you move on and you got, it seems like comedy, it's never funny enough they want over and over and over and keep feeding stuff and throwing. And it just seems like, it seems like it takes longer, it's harder. It's like the beats have to be right.

The jokes have to be right. Everything has to be as a, in drama. Yeah, there's science. There's a science to it. So it's definitely harder. It's like, that's why I think a lot of comedians can do drama a lot easier. Well, yeah. And when dramatic actors, there are a few dramatic actors that are fucking brilliant at comedy. But a lot of them, they think they have to put like some special sauce on it, you know? I mean, I guess if it's like Ace Ventura or something, that's like standalone like brilliance. But, you know, pretty much it's just you're just saying the comedy lines, honestly. You don't have to put a lot of sauce on it necessarily. Yeah. Especially when you, when I first saw Kristen Wigg, she was such a brilliant example of that. of she's so funny but it's almost imperceptible what she's doing to be funny it's it's really

I thought that was kind of a new level you know I saw like the skeleton twins or something that it's a beautiful it's a beautiful movie she's great her and Bill hate her it's like and they're such brilliant comedians then you watch it and they're just like I believe these guys I'm man what about in McGiver when he's like what about your singing career and she goes it can't can wait like it's not not that good you know just like it can wait oh my god uh flirtatious b who has inspired you the most it's just such an array of people obviously like steve martin was like my number one even though i i share very little DNA with them comedically but i you know um but also like mr rogers gary shanling yeah uh my therapist

who's like 81 I love Gary Shanling by the way I know you do and you were close I remember I had met him a few times and we have the same physical therapist and who uh David Fabrizio oh no and so I got to talk to my I remember I went to your party at your house you still have the same place no I well I lived in a tiny apartment no that was a it was a roof that you got It was a roof. I lived on the bottom floor. I played poker there. Yeah, you played poker.

Yeah, but then you had a party on your roof, which kind of seemed like you were rich. Yeah, I mean, for some people, they thought that's where I lived. It was a 150 down payment to use the roof in my building of, like, mostly elderly people. And it was incredible, it was like an incredible space. I loved it. I loved that place. You lived there forever. I did.

And I thought I would always live there. And then during the pandemic, I like. almost on a whim bought a house the first house I saw you all like my I wasn't looking to buy a house but tall John was like you're gonna get this house they were like building a house a few houses down from him you're gonna buy this house I'm like no I'm not what am I gonna do in a house I like small spaces you know I'm like a dog you know like I need like to feel like and um do dogs like small spaces I was just I swear to God that was my next line do dogs actually like small spaces No, but, like, sometimes they like to go in a little, like...

They're okay with, like... They like to have, like, their sides and their back, you know, where no one can come. Touching a cage. I don't know. I just like, I don't, I liked, the thought of moving going through my shit. It's daunting, daunting. But I just, like, I just did. I went to look at it and then the guy who built it was there.

And I go, if I give you what you're asking for, will you not put it on the market and sell it to me? And he goes... okay and that was it really yeah my first in ever house but shanling was so nice to me he's like he's like hey hey mike and he's just like that just he was warm and he was listening he's like yeah yeah just there was just something sweet about him i don't know he was just a he was a willing mentor and just so many things that he learned the hard way he gave to us you know and And yeah, he was, it's not that he had all his shit together, but he worked so hard to try. Yeah.

And that's why he was a Buddhist. And you go, oh, he must have been so Zen. No, he needed Buddhism desperately, you know. Yeah. And I thought Jed Apataz two-part documentaries. Brilliant. It's amazing. It is amazing.

I mean, just did him so right, you know, like poured through his journals. and his, he wrote something, oh, he wrote something in his journal that I would have not seen if Judd didn't. And it just said, it's all notes to himself. And it just said, give what you didn't get. Wow, I remember that. That's a good one, right? That's a good one. Give what you didn't get.

I saw. I think I do. Honestly, I think I do that. Yeah. I really try. I think I, that just made me think for a second. Good. Give what you don't get or didn't get.

Give what you didn't get. Didn't get. Yeah. Yeah. Cry. You love, you love. You love your podcast. You love it.

Yeah, I do. What do you love about it? I love getting calls from all over. I'm always surprised that like I'm just so not worldly other than this whole country from touring that I'm always shocked when people here. hear it in other countries and call from all sorts of other places and all sorts of places in this country, you know, that, you know, like this country's fucking big. It's like 30 countries, you know, probably should be. But, um, but yeah, I like talk. I like when people call in. I like being able to, I like the trajectory of the podcast being dictated by callers. And I also

I like talking to people I like not having to ask people to come on my show because I'm so even when I wrote a book I would You have no guests I have no guests I might start dipping my toe in when you want to Having friends come and and answer with their perspectives And talk about the stuff that comes up

I mean it definitely became less funny than I don't want to say less funny More serious than I ever intended because people started calling in with like heavy fucking shit but see I think that's when you find it because you go into something like I went in this I was like oh you can make some money here doing a podcast like six or seven years ago I started well I'm just saying and I thought I thought oh you know I could talk okay my voice isn't awful I'll uh you're great at this well you know it's I never thought I'd even be good at it I never thought so but it wasn't working I wasn't making money.

I was like, I can't get it. It's hard to. And then all of a sudden I started talking about real shit and self-deprecating stuff and therapy and mental health and just stuff that I'm interested. And that's when it clicked. So what I'm saying is you go into it thinking one way and then it evolves and becomes something else, which is great. Yeah.

It takes you where it's. Well, as someone who likes documentaries, that's really kind of the format is you go in with one intention and best case scenario. it the real subject presents itself you still talk to mac damon no i i mean i i see you're friendly with him not really no it's just a funny i'm i'm fucking matt damon was just uh i thought you knew him if i see him uh it gives me a hugo nice to see you know he's come to see me do stand up a couple times um but i don't like have his phone number or anything it all started because i was dating jimmy camel over together really and he had just started his

his talk show and he was having like no big guess like I remember it was a night where the second guest was a man with the longest arm hair and he was so frustrated and I said you know what you should do that thing like when they don't when they run out of time you know but you should say it's like the biggest movie star there is and I just thought like Matt Damon I go at the end of the show just say sorry Matt Damon we ran out of time and he started doing that and then um when Matt agreed to be a part of it he just I think Jimmy's told me that he was like I'll participate

in this but I don't want you to ever stop saying sorry Matt Damon ran out of time and I think he still says it but that was an idea that his cousin Sal and one of the writers Tony Barbieri thought of like I'm fucking Matt Damon we were planning a show that Jimmy didn't want to know anything about it

like for his birthday or something yeah is like some occasion and he wanted to booked like all surprises for him, you know. So this was the one time I was on the road and I was going through Miami and that's where Matt Damon was living at the time and he agreed to do this thing. And I, I remember I had to lie to Jimmy about where I was on the road and I was so like, had such agitia about it. It was not a good liar. But Tony and and Sall, cousin Sall came in. We wrote this song the night before. We recorded it and someone

did Matt's vocals and then the next day we had three hours with Matt and three hours in this hotel to shoot he like went in a hotel room closet and learned the song recorded his part of the song and then we just lip synced it and did the you know as many locations as we could in this one hotel and it it just came together it was a phenomenon you know I watched it like a year ago I hadn't seen it in so long we're talking about a video called I'm fucking Matt Damon I'm fucking Matt Damon you guys should know I check it out it was and it really helped up. It was kind of, it was still funny. It's so funny. So little comedy holds up for me anyway. And that one all held up. And you and Jimmy are still good friends. Yes. Like you call him. My boyfriend works on

his show. Isn't that weird how that all works out? That doesn't usually happen. Well, life is long. And you know, I remember when Jimmy and I were dating, it annoyed him that I was close to a lot of my ex-boyfriends. He's like, if we ever, if we break up, I will never be your friend. And I like to throw that in his face because you know we're as he puts it we're like brothers but um yeah of course yeah that's amazing your special is it out post-mortem on netflix check it out yeah please check it out i mean look how real and fun she is i mean i mean i it's comedy it's not gonna it'll be funnier than i am today in this what do you mean this is what the podcast is yeah you are funny you're not just like crack a joke it's it's real it's like i know but i have common friends that i listen

to them on a podcast and they're so nonstop funny. Like for me, Jeff Ross makes me laugh so hard. He's just bam, bam, bam, bam. But it's okay that I am not. But oh my God. On his podcast, so he just bam, bam, bam. He doesn't have a podcast, but just

anything he does. Any press anything, it's like boom, boom, boom. I just don't think that a podcast like that would like this would work with the guests, which is like I'm just trying to get shit out of you. I'm just trying to go, oh yeah, how long are you fucking this guy? And how are you? Right. Right. Right. Set you up for, you know, it's like when talk shows at their worst are so bad where it's like, um, you had an experience with a monkey on a cruise ship.

Like, you know, like that's not very organic. You get into that and maybe a real way. I just want to have a conversation with an old friend and, um, just happy you're doing so well. Likewise. I love seeing your face and your home. I'm so glad you finally came. I know. I'm, I'm a disappointment as a friend. Not the last time I'll say that to someone. Hit pause on whatever you're listening to and hit play on your next adventure. This fall, get double points on every qualified stay. Life's the trip. Make the most of it at Best Western.

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this has been really great and um i am about to read the top tier names well should we say that sarah silverman had a comedy special that just came out and that's oh yeah well we talk about it in the podcast but it yeah it's hilarious Yeah. She's, she's freaking hilarious. She's, she's just, you know, she says, she comes up with stuff that I don't really think about. And then I'm like, wow, I didn't think about it like that. Yeah. And she has always has a turn on it. But she's been doing this so long. So she, it was nice getting inside her head of how she operates and like, you know, she bombs or she gets nervous or she, you know, things like that. I always like to ask questions like that to the guests. Because I always feel like that, you get nervous. Do you ever do this? You ever do this? You ever. So it was great. These are, if you join Patreon, patron.com slash inside of you. There's tons of perks, but one of them is getting your name shotted out. So we're about to do that right now with the top tiers that give back to the show, this wonderful family.

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