Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - SCOTT PORTER: Twists in Ginny & Georgia, Chasing Friday Night Lights & Combining Math and Music

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

Scott Porter (Ginny & Georgia, Friday Night Lights) joins me this week to discuss his transition from singing wide receiver to acting and how his pursuit in Hollywood allowed him to reconnect with lost family. Scott talks about the unexpected challenges and growth he’s experienced on Ginny & Georgia, including the surprises of the ‘balance’ show’s success on Netflix. We also get into overcoming anxiety before performances, his passion for spreading awareness for Huntington’s Disease, and learning the most when a situation goes wrong. Thank you to our sponsors: 🐈 Smalls: https://smalls/com + “inside” 🛍️ Shopify: https://shopify.com/inside 🚀 Rocket Money: https://rocketmoney.com/inside __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou 👕 Inside Of You Merch: https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🤣 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod 🌐 Website: https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Coming up on six. Is it six years? Coming up on six. Which is crazy. You've been working with me for six years? Yeah. I can't believe that. I know.

It seems like yesterday you were like, I think I could do it. Yeah, I know. And now you're producing the Talkville rewatch podcast. I've gotten started. You have gotten started. We've got to go celebrate. We've got to do a six-year dinner. Six-year dinner.

Yeah, let's do it. All right. We'll do a six-year dinner. All right. Celebrating Ryan. Yeah. Thanks for all the support. Father's Day.

Is it this Sunday? I think this would be after that. Yeah, I think Father's Day passed. So happy Father's Day to everybody. I was going to say, hey, buy the book for your father, the talented farter on Amazon. My book, it's a sound book, but you can still buy it. It's a great gift for kids and farders, fathers. Anyway, let's just get right into this.

Thank you for all the support and love. And we've got some great interviews coming up. So keep listening. And let's get inside. This guy's great. Scott was such a sweetheart. Yeah. And very talented.

You know him from Friday Night Lights. Ginny and Georgia. And we talk about everything. And he was pretty open. And I like that. So let's get inside of Scott Porter. It's my point of you. You're listening to inside of you with my.

Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. So I was telling you this before that I just talked to Aaron Ashmore. I was like, who has he worked with? Who has Scott worked with that I know? And I say, oh, Aaron. Yeah. And he goes, great guy, family guy, super into sports, comic books, musicals.

He can do it all, multi-talented. Say what's up for me. Gill says what's up. Gil gets a different reaction than Aaron. But yeah, I know Aaron and his brother for a while. But, you know, when you know a pair of twins, but you don't know them super well, like, if you see one of them at the farmer's market, you're like, which one is it? Which one is it? I know.

And they look so much alike. I mean, there's certain things. Like I have a friend, my buddy John Heater, Napoleon Dynamite. Yeah. And he's one of my dear friends and his brother Dan's a dear friend. Um, I can tell them easily apart. It's, but, but some people that meet Dan for the first time, it's like, is that I'm like, I'm like, no. Maybe because I know him so well. Yeah, man. No, for me, I can, I can tell them apart now. But yeah, man, I, uh, the sports thing is hilarious. Like, he still owes me a day at a Hamilton Tiger Cats, uh, CFL game. So I'm gonna make him, you like CFL? Dude, I, I, I like

all sports. You do. Man, I got into this business, I think, for the most part, to get free tickets to the games, man. Not even free tickets, but just get in the room. Yeah. Like, I've gone to some incredible, like, season openers. I'm talking Maple Leafs, Canadians, puck drop, Saturday night, NHL season premiere, you know, like getting tickets to that. In Canada? In Canada. That's hockey. And it's, and the thing is, man, is Friday night lights is what gets me in the door, because almost every front office, any sports team. across the country. Oh, wait, Jason Street wants a ticket. KB.1. Let's find him a seat. Let's find him a seat. So for me, but it's, it's all sportsmen. I just, I have a love of, it is, you know, people love

theater, people love all these different hobbies that they have. But you're sports, witnessing sports in person, that moment being in the room is, there's nothing like it. Well, I'm a big underdog fan. And being a New York fan, like a Mets, Rangers, Knicks, Giants, you it's sort of self-explanatory but like you know i suffer as a is my cuckoo clock if you could hear it but um i suffer yeah i'm i'm from nebraska originally so spoken for as a huskers fan but then out of that i grew like a bunch of different allegiances so saturday morning cartoons would get over big east basketball will come in in Nebraska and i'd see georgetown and the hoya destroya playing and i became a huge patrick ewing fan followed him to the nba so you want to talk

about long suffering. Yeah, I'm a huge Knicks fan too. Like ever since he was drafted. I'm talking like 85, 86. I only hope was the Rockets in 94, I think it was. Yeah, we lost that in game seven. And I was just like, and I thought, okay, the Knicks are going to be good. And it's like, it's been since 1973. Yeah. Is that right? Since the Knicks of one, it's 1986 since the Mets of won. It's, uh, at least the Giants have won some Super Bowls, but the Rangers haven't won since 1994. So like, not to bore everybody with sports, but like, this is something like, I'm I'm not really big in a college basketball. I went to Western Kentucky University.

Oh, then I root for, yeah. You probably know every, every mascot, don't you? I know quite a few of them. What's the one, the San Jose or San, uh, the, there's a funny name. It's the funniest name. They're the blank. It's a California team basketball. That I may not know.

The Santa Cruz bananas slugs. Banana slugs. The banana slugs. I would have gotten there with Santa Cruz, but yeah, I mean, listen, I, listen, the Nebraska cornhuskers were originally called the bug eaters. I'm not kidding. It was the Nebraska bug eaters. They allowed a bunch of kindergarten kids to name the football team. They thought it was a good idea statewide, let all the kindergartners come up with the mascot. And bug eaters got on the ballot somehow and just runaway victory for the Nebraska bug eaters. So, I mean, you know, I've been a fan of crazy, kooky, you know, mass. mascot names for a while. Yeah, you were, you were a wide receiver in high school? I was, yeah. Can you throw the football pretty far? I can. I can throw. I'm better at route running, but can you throw 40 yards? I mean, now with a well, if you warm up for an hour. Yeah, I could probably, I could probably get there 40, but I think you're pushing it any further. We were playing flag football

for so many years and we just quit like about five years ago because everybody started getting hurt. I'm in my 50s now. Yeah. So like everybody was trying. I wasn't really getting hurt, but like everyone around Tommy was, but I kind of want to do a last hurrah, like a flag football game with all my friends and just like, you might have to come out and be like QB for the other team. Dude, I mean, look, I'm still, I'm still pretty fast. And high school ran a 453 to a four, five, six, like in that range, depends on what day I was testing. And, uh, and I had really good hands. I grew up, I'm a Broncos fan, but because they played in the AFC West, Steve Largent played for the Seahawks. So I grew up watching him.

as well. And I just love the way that guy attacked the ball. Yeah. And so I grew up like doing that. You know, I was, you know, popular in high school? Uh, you have to be. If you're a wide receiver, you got to be popular. You know, I was as much of a nerd as I am now, I was a nerd in high school too. So I was doing music, right? In theater. I was in, I was in chorus. I would sing the national anthem with my helmet under my arm before the football game and then go into the locker. You saying the national anthem? Yeah. And with my, in my full. my full uniform with my helmet under my arm and run into, and I'm the starting wide out for

a team that was... Dude, that's unheard of. We were state quarter finalists and then state semi-finalist, my junior and senior year. I mean, our team had three future NFL players on it for a school that had no success before. So my coach was pissed at me. He's like, you need to be in the locker room. Why are you out there?

But you like doing it. And people probably loved it and gave you more of an ovation because you were... And did you get really high? Do you sing the anthem kind of... Just, oh, say, can you do these runs and shit? I'm a rock tenor who has a little bit of ability to run. And I was in a barbershop quartet in high school.

So doing the anthem was my time to show everybody else that I don't only sing corny barbershop, which I love to death, but people consider very corny. So I was in an a cappella group. I was in chorus. I was a comic book nerd. You love boys to mend, didn't you? I did love two. The album two is one of the greatest.

Oh, man. Could you sing that, not now, obviously, but could you sing that song, How do I? Oh, yeah, yes. Easily. We sang that in a hook. You could sing it pitch perfect every time. Yeah, yeah.

It's so hard to say goodbye? Confidence. Yes. I mean, you were in, what, music and lyrics? I was in music and lyrics, yes. Yes. So you're not afraid when someone says, hey, this requires singing. You don't get nervous.

No. I mean, my parents met in a rock band in the 80s. called Ruckus. My dad's a drummer. Ruckus named Butch. It was just me and my mom until I was six, and she was a vocalist. And his band Ruckus started getting their ass kicked locally in Omaha by a female-led band called High Heel in the Sneakers, which to this day, I think, is one of the best rock band names I've ever heard. And they were female fronted. So all of a sudden, all these bar managers were like, hey, man, you got to get a chick lead or else we're not going to book you anymore my dad's like god dang it so they start auditioning all these different singers and he'd

seen my mom in a jazz band somewhere around town and she walked in he was like nope not her not her she's already in a band she's here to just my dad's very paranoid she's here to just steal all our contacts and and get all our bookings no no no she said that he said that he did he voted no the rest of the band was like you're crazy voted yes she gets voted into the band and a year and a half later they get married so you know oh my god what a story well someone was able to check him there but as far as getting scared to sing. I mean, look, I went on the mass singer and that was a whole, that was a whole different level of, I mean, because you're in a costume. Yeah. Millions of people are going, millions of people are going to hear this. It's, it's one thing. Decide yourself out.

You do a little bit, but the mass kind of like protected me in that realm because I was kind of free of judgment that way. It's like you're judging a gumball machine, which was my costume. Yeah, yeah. not me so uh yeah no if you one of the things i know i can do if you need me to is step up and and bang out of set or you know i wish i had that confidence because i have a band and we like we're we're just finishing our third album and i love it and i love writing music and playing but um i'm not the strongest singer so i kind of just do what i can do and then i get great harmonies and things like that but i always wish that i had that be like well you could train i'm like no i think it's something you really have to have innately. But you guys write your own music. Yeah.

Yeah. See, that's, so when I was in college, I'm a structural, I was a structural engineering major. I'm a very like math brain thinker. I grew up like math, physics, all that stuff came really easy to me. 12 times 13. I mean, now, now you're getting me. 12 times 13 is, uh, what is it? What is it? It's, uh, 12 times three is 37. One, no, no, no, 12 times three is. Oh, no, 12 times 13 you just said i know yeah i'm doing the back end of it right yeah go ahead i can't do it 10 times 10 is 100 right 11 times 11 is 121 where you go when it's you know what my biggest problem is right now i told you i'm not getting math my big i know you're throwing numbers that my biggest problem now is like the way i know how to figure things is you know start at the back end go forward but my kids now

they do all these like sticks of 10 or like all this new math stuff and i'm like i've got a 10 in a 7 year and they're just constantly teaching me the way they do math now, which for me was like so easy for a long time. But the reason I even brought it up is because I'm envious of you guys because you're writing your own music. I've never been a creator in that way. When I do music, you know, I was a beatboxer for a long time. But the way I approached rhythm, it's math.

Rhythm's just math. It's all subdivision, right? notes, harmonies, all that stuff, intervals, it's just all intervals. It's just all math. And if you can relate it to the voice, then, you know, that's great. But there's formulas that people have when they're acting. There's certain steps that they take. There's formulas, the writing scripts. There's all these things where you're like, oh, we have three different acts. We need to accomplish things in A, B, and C. So I look at all these things in a very logistical manner. And I wish I could be more creative, like, in that sense. So I've never really written my own music or anything like that.

but you could easily do it you start down you know i start with chords i'll play a chord into another chord and i go i like that needs to go into something else and i'll keep going and while i'm doing that i go is it 156 12 times 13 yeah it's 156 i said 157 you were yeah but it was one off bro it's 156 i love i had to come back to it because i was like i had to get through my thought it was a little add or a little uh cd or what was that a little bit i mean i was like i knew the answer and then you're like 121. 157. Yeah, I'm trying to distract you. I don't want you to get to see. You know this stuff. Structural engineering. Jesus. But like you said your mom was raising you until you were six years old. Was your father just not around? They divorced? I don't know my biological

father at all. He left my mom before I was even a year old. You know, he's just, he was a construction guy. My mom had me at 19. They were very young. They met in high school. Yeah, my mom had me at like my dad was 19 when he had me yeah so they you know it's a lot for for a kid and you know i i'm not giving him an excuse or anything but you know my mom came home one night and there was beer cans all over the house him and his construction buddies have been partying one of them peed in my dresser drawers like you know just like got so you know i don't know if i can curse on the podcast got so shit face that like he lost all sense he's supposed to be watching my mom's working two jobs at the time she was a nurse she was she was doing so much and you know

she's at 19 and she came home she said you need to get yourself together man like get yourself together go and get a a nine to five if this is the influence that you have doing what you're doing like go get a different job where you're around a different group of people where you can break out of some of this stuff and uh you know he told her yeah okay i've i've i have a big interview today he's like you know dresses up one day which is a way different look for him he's like i've paid the bills um you know i'm getting my life together i'm ready to go you know because she had threatened him she's like i'll go i'll move back to california where my father is because that's her her dad was living in l.a at the time and i was you know this was in Nebraska and she was like okay great

i'm glad that you know you've got yourself together he left that day never came back said he was going to an interview just took off hadn't paid it any of the bills, told her that he didn't. This is the time before everything where you had to, like, drive to the office and pay them, write a check, send it in, whatever. So the lights go out. Like, he was like, oh, not only, he just disappeared. No one ever saw him again.

The lights go out. So, you know, mom, my mom came out here to L.A. And my grandfather, Bob, actually, he worked at Burbank Studios before it became wonderful of us. And, like, we stayed with him, like, I was, you know, for a year when I was little, little. Was he cool? My, my grandpa Bob was awesome.

He passed away when I was five at 50 years old. And you remember him? It's crazy for me to, yes, 100%. That's amazing. My mom's dad, he was awesome. And I also remember him because he did so much, you know, stuff for me like getting, he worked on Duke's a hazard. He worked with Clint Eastwood. I have all these signed photos and headshots from like the Duke brothers and from Clint Eastwood and from all these guys because he was out.

He was a Texas guy. Came out here to L.A. and started making his way. And he, he worked in transportation and then worked as a grip. Dude, that's so cool. So, you know, he, he just, I have all this stuff, you know, in memory of him. And my mom, you know, she lost him really young. She was 25 when he passed. You know, so she keeps his memory alive. I talk about my grandpa Bob all the time. But this is a crazy story. Inside of You is brought to you by Quince. I love Quince. Ryan. I've told you this before. I got this awesome $60 cashmere sweater. I wear it religiously. You can get all sorts of amazing, amazing clothing for such reasonable prices. Look, cooler temps are rolling in. And as always, Quince is where I'm turning for fall staples that actually last. From cashmere to denim to boots, the quality holds up and the price still blows me away. Quince has the kind of fall staples

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Dixie shot at the Warner Brothers lot and I show up for my first day of work and I meet this guy, Marlowe and he was the head of our transportation department. And we got to talk in and, you know, my mom called me a couple days later and she was like, hey, you know, that's where your grandfather worked. You know the town square where you're shooting Hart of Dixie is where they did Dukes of Hazard. I was like, no way. I was like, that's kind of crazy. So I'd walked around. I found all the different. He worked on the Rockford Files. He was Jim Garner's stand in because he looked a lot like James Garner. Come on.

Ended up being his double. Ended up learning how to do stunts because he lived like down the street from Clint Eastwood stunt guy. And so... This had to be overwhelming. I remember all this stuff. But the overwhelming part is two weeks in, now I'm like, really, I'm loving the fact that it's like I'm feeling my grandfather here on the lot.

Like this is cool, man. Like I feel so much more connected to him. And I tell Marlowe, the head of our transportation department. And he goes, wait, he worked on what shows? And I start to tell him. He was like, what's your grandfather's name? I said, Bob Frailey, he goes, Bobby? They started the same year.

Marlowe and my grandpa Bob started in the same transportation apartment at Burbank Studios. He knew Bobby. He knew my grandfather. He told stories? Yeah, he got stories. And so I got to learn my grandfather. I got to learn things about my grandfather through somebody that had worked with him on his time when he was working out here.

When my mom was actually, you know, my mom's stepfather was an Air Force colonel. that's why I'm from Nebraska. Her mom had remarried. And so I, you know, she was away from him even during that time when, when, you know, Grandpa Bob was working out here in L.A. And so Marlowe's got stories that even she's never heard. So mom comes out, you know, she gets to hang out with Marlowe. It was so cool to get to know him that way through stories that, and people remember him. And that was so cool. It keeps his spirit alive. Yeah. You know, there's no doubt. I believe in that stuff. I believe like my grandfather or my grandma, they're watching over me. no way and people should say that come on but to me it's more like an energy and it's more how

your brain could sort of choose to believe that choose to believe that these are signs and really actually feel it like when you see when something's going wrong and then you something you know like I was at the doctor and I wasn't having a good day and I was a little worried about something and all of a sudden this older woman goes where's my jacket and I'm like oh my god that's my grandmother, my grandfather. And she's like, where's my jacket? You said, I told you to watch the jacket. Sounded just like her. And then he goes, what do you want? You might have left it upstairs. What do you? And this whole thing happened. And I go, God, that's just like my grandparents. And I just looked at my phone. And as they're walking out and he says something. And she goes, oh, come on, Irv. And I go, what?

That's my grandfather's name after. And I go, this. that was a moment. That was a moment that I believe that they let me know, hey, we're still, we're still around. It's that spirit. I just, I like to think that and I, and I, and I do believe it, you know, um, so yeah. Oh, I believe too, man. I do. Yeah, I think, you know, people always say you believe in God and I know, like, yeah, well, how can you prove it? I go, how can you not prove it? Ha, do you know my answer always is, is how I believe that my belief, so you want, we talk in math again. My belief in something is always going to be greater than your belief in nothing. If you multiply one person, one, one times one, it's always going to be greater than one time zero.

Yeah. So that's, you know, always the way I look at it. I mean, there's just, you know, so yeah, I believe it. I do, too. I like to believe it. I'm not religious. I'm more spiritual, but, you know, my grandmother always, my grandfather would say, you know, what do you think we go somewhere?

We go to heaven when he's, my grandma's like, yeah, I believe that, Irv. And I'd be like, you know what, Blanche, I believe that too. I believe it too you'd be the best person you could be you try to help people you try to be kind and there's something else and you know

so you know when we got in here we were talking you seem so excited because I was talking Aaron about season two and this awesome scene you have in the office where you're you know I'll send you back to prison

and I'll do all this stuff and and when you were here you were just talking you got excited about like some people will always ask you like what's your best one liner or what you're, you know, and things like that. And it's like, you know, trying to figure it out.

But you're like, I felt like it's nice to see that you're excited about season three and all the stuff that you get to do in season three. Yeah. I mean, look, the first two seasons, Paul, my character has been like a very, I don't know, Georgia, the lead character and Briann, who plays her is brilliant. Yeah, she's great. But she's a maelstrom. She is a storm, you know.

And there's a martial art to being with somebody like that. who is just like, you know, she's a force of nature and you've got to figure out a way to continue standing, not let that thing, you know, topple you over. And Paul has been able to stand tall through all this, take a beat and somewhat politically respond, sometimes very thoughtfully, sometimes very carefully, but respond in season three, it kind of strips a lot of that away. I've been using one word for this season, reckoning, a lot of people's decisions and choices, whether to do something they've been warned against or to let something sit

that maybe they should have addressed. All of those things come to the four in season three. And it creates some new, really interesting dynamics between characters. So, you know, I get some cool stuff with Raya Black who plays Joe. Love that guy in real life. Didn't get a ton of, like, time with him on screen.

I get a little bit more of that in season three. Yeah. And out of that, out of creating these new relationships, because they are all relationships, like how how your character relates to somebody else. It's so fun because you find some really funny, really interesting things. And so two of my all-time favorite lines that Paul says are in season three.

And last night we had our premiere, which is crazy. We haven't had it. It's just killing. We haven't had a premiere though. This was our first, we're going into season three. We got our first premiere,

which it was like so cool. But it's been so long since I've been to a premiere of something I'm in. I think like 2011. I mean, I'm talking 13 years. You want to talk about. about being out of practice for something like that. Yeah.

I go to other people's carpets, take some pictures, that's fine. No interviews. And so I'm on the red carpet. I forgot how rapid fire all these questions are. Oh, yeah. And somebody said, it's just like, how's this? What's your character like? And with Netflix, it's all like fan-driven questions.

And it's all like, what can I say? What can I say? Everything is super secretive. I'm like, like, crumbling on the carpet. And so I was like, what's my favorite line? Oh, it's this. Oh, I can't talk about that. That's in season three.

No, it's this one. Oh, no, I can't talk about that. So, yeah, I was kind of like, I was a little petrified. I'm like, so comfortable in so many places. But last night on the carpet, I was like, what is happening, dude? That's exciting, though, man. Yeah. And it's really taking Netflix by storm, right?

I mean, the show is like a big success. It's not just like, oh, yeah, there's another, because there's so many shows, but it's getting so much attention. Why do you think that is? What would you say it is about this show that people are really responding to? It's voice, I think, is different. than a lot of the other shows. And I think a lot of that comes because our creator,

this is like her first major thing. You know, she was in development and stuff before this at a production house. But it is so clearly Sarah Lampert's voice in our script and her fearlessness to try the craziest shit. I mean, she created this character of Georgia and this family dynamic of her and Ginny and Austin

and, you know, a woman who will do anything to protect her family. In a way that we, I don't know we fully 100%. I mean, I know these stories have been told before, but not in this kind of like fish out of water fashion. There's a lot of humor.

There's, but it's just her voice. This is a lot of Sarah Lampert's voice. And I remember when I read the pilot, there was like 17 F bombs in the script. And I was like, what is this? And for people out there that don't know,

like Netflix has a bunch of different categories within their, you know, I look at them like a hedge fund of television, right? They want to have different portfolios, right? So they have drama. They have young adult. They have spectacle. They have like all these different listings of shows. And you've got to fall into one of these buckets.

What does this fall into? They started an indie line. And I think it was something like 10 shows. They had kind of picked up. Only two of them ever got made. The indie line kind of like got killed off. They were looking at a way to make, you know, shows at smaller scale as well as the big, you know, huge spectacle shows.

So like at Bridgerton, that's a big show, man. But you've got to have some balance, right? So we were one of those balance shows. But I remember reading it. and just going, oh, crap. Like, this woman is, like, killed a dude in a flashback. And she's on the run from, like, this old motorcycle gang and one of her ex-husbands. And, like, she ends up in this small town in the northeast, which I think was a really fun way to do the fish out of water thing.

Taking somebody from the south and putting them up north is not normally what you see. Right. Usually take somebody from a coastal elite town, throw them into the south and they make comedy out of it. But this was so different. And the way that Paul reacted to her, I had, like, scenes from, you know, you know, know episode eight or episode six which of course i didn't get those scripts of so i'm just getting snippets of his character and he was like this really confident in a cool way kind of guy like really sure of himself till he means her i but even in the scenes that i audition with he was like still like

you know one of the audition one of the audition scenes was the whole town is telling him he shouldn't date this woman and he's not allowed to date this woman and and he's like fuck you i'm doing it i'm the mayor. I don't care. We're doing this. You like me. I like you. Let's stop all the high school bullshit. We're together. And that was like I loved that element of him. So it's just her voice. And then, you know, we do talk about a lot of subjects. And we have a large cast, which is unique, I think nowadays. How many people are in the cast? I think a testament to how good your cast is is how many like regulars you add as you go forward as a show. So season one, I think we're eight deep series regulars. We're up over 10 now. And that's because this casting on this show has been

perfect. We have just incredible actresses and actors that are younger, that this is one of their first bigger things. And it builds excitement. It adds another level when you do that. It's like, you know, in a sense, it's like a team, a sports team. Yeah. It's like, you know, your team has all the elements and it's like, you know, it didn't, they didn't win the Stanley Cup. So they acquire this person and this person. And it's like, oh, it adds a little depth. It adds a little this. Yeah. And they become, it just gets stronger and stronger. And that's what we've been doing. You know, like acquiring talent. It's like the Warriors. No. You know, they built their team in a very natural way. They drafted a couple. And then they went and found people that, like, Iguodala,

like they brought them in, right? So it's like they, we've been building the team the right way. Our casting directors don't get enough credit, but the cast itself is great. And I think, like, over these couple of seasons, we've really seen people grow into their own. And everybody is somehow they're doing the balance of we're going to show all these storylines. And so there's just so many different characters for people to connect to. Yeah. You know, a few seconds ago, I caught you say, you know, casting directors don't get enough credit.

And I was like, I bet your wife had something to do with you saying that. Because you married a casting director. Yeah, but from a different walk. She, uh, no, I'm kidding, by the way. Well, I mean, look, I, I have a huge respect for what she did because she did it in the world of reality. And they definitely don't get enough credit in reality because you don't have story writers in reality. The characters, the people that you cast, they are the story. So if you don't get that right, you don't have a show.

And these casting producers don't get the credit. that they deserve the people that find the actual people who are in reality television yeah uh that is a very thankless job and and uh you know but over time i mean look i look back linda lowey on friday night lights she knocked it out of the park i looked at every single person on that set and i go yeah we're here because i mean of course pete had a vision you know pete but she brings them yes to him and and found them in all corners of the earth like we started shooting the first season of Friday night lights, and we didn't even have our Riggins yet because they were trying to get Taylor Kitch of Visa to come and work with us because they found him like super last minute, but

Linda, every single stone she could turn over, she was turning over, and she just found the perfect cast. And they're almost in tune, more in tune with the project as it starts than anybody because they found the actors to inhabit all these roles. As long as they're not foisted upon them, right? Sometimes networks get in their own way. When you watch a show and you're like, that's not the right role for that person you know whose fault that is not the casting director that's usually the studios yeah i agree you know i agree they do that a lot um yeah the cast you know Friday night lights is an anomaly because uh i rarely rarely watch network television and this show was one of the best shows ever on television it was i could i binged i probably watched the whole series in a month

I couldn't stop watching it. I loved it. I loved these characters. You could smell the town. Everything about it seemed authentic. Yeah. It just was, it was something that you don't see very often. Did you have any idea how special it was from the get-go?

I did. I did because, I mean, we talked earlier about whether or not I played football. I did in high school. We had a very similar experience. My senior year, we're in the state semifinals against Pennsylvania. Sicola, Scambia, Emmett Smith's nephew was playing for them. And we lost 13 to 7. And, you know, I, I scored the only touchdown that game. And I had a very similar route concept. I was open. You know, quarterback goes a different direction. Ball gets tipped. It gets picked. We're within 30 yards

of winning this thing. And, you know, it was game over. And we all kind of fell to the field and just, you know, you mourn immediately. Yeah. You know, this number of. of years, whether it's four, or maybe you've played Pop Warner with these guys since middle school, maybe it's eight years. Like you've been, you've been bleeding, sweating, giving everything for these other kids that you're with. And at 16, 17, 18 years old, that's tough, man. So when the movie came out, a bunch of us went and, you know, watched the movie. Shout out to my buddy Ben Hall Miller. He was our left tackle in high school. And he now is like lead director of NCAA football the video game for EA so he's like passion passion for football I've worked on Madden so yeah you

I got to work with him but it was like we went and saw it in the theater you know and other of my old teammates we went and saw it in the theater and then I was up in New York and I was doing a little off-Broadway show called Altar Boys and I was auditioning for Tarzan on Broadway right and it came down to me and this other guy he was incredibly talented Josh he he ends up booking the role and I got offered you know lead understudy for both tarzan and the hunter lead ensemble i would be on the album i would be in a disney theatrical musical which was awesome awesome but we asked for an out for television because my first pilot season was coming up i had never had a pilot season before i had signed with my agent while i was doing this off-broadway musical and they said we don't give outs for television

they said that you've done this cute little off-broadway show but we can teach you how to really command a stage. We can make you a lead actor. Why do you want to go to television? You're just going to be fourth handsome guy from the left on some WB show and just be forgotten. And they said this to me in the interview. Why do you think they said that? And like the meeting. And it really pissed me off. I don't think they knew like playing at like playing sports the way that I did. I do have a bit of a chip on my shoulder. And I it was really hard for me in this business for a while because I looked at every audition as a win or a loss and that can that can destroy you but in that moment I was like okay all right muff all right let's see all right mother so so I passed on the first

five scripts I read in my first pilot season by agent Randy calls me she's like what the do you think you're doing she's like you you don't pass on anything this is your first pilot season we are going in for every audition you are auditioning for everything and like the seventh script I read was Friday night lights and I was like this is incredible this is the thing this is not fourth handsome guy from the left on some whatever quote they said not that i think i'm handsome that was just the words that was the exact quote they said to me and i was just hearing this guy in my head over and over again i don't want to play a role that's just going to be forgotten or shunted to the side or whatever and so when i read it i was like okay and then the audition scenes for friday

night lights were like this cutesy kissing scene between the cheerleader and the you know team captain but there was a scene in the middle where it's in the locker room and it's in the stakes are high and they're like it was even in script it's like we're going to improv some play stuff here we're going to and i like i have football acumen this i can use this so i rip that scene out and then i ripped the uh you know jason street do you think god loves football scene out of the script and i went into stephen o'neal who is the casting director on the project and i said i think you have the wrong scenes and this is something you can only get away with in this business when you're green i was green. I was a rookie. I didn't know any better. So people were willing to forgive me for that. If I do that

now, I'm arrogant as hell. I'm so arrogant, right? But back then, I wasn't arrogant. So I walk in. I'm like, you got the wrong scenes. I think these are the scenes for Jason Street. I think these are who he is. He turns off the camera and goes, okay, we're going to do a pre-read. That's where you audition just for me. And if you're good enough, I'll turn the camera back on. And so I did it. Stephen O'Neill turned the camera back on. And then I guess, you know, in talking with Pete years later, he was like, yeah, I wasn't even paying attention at that point because I was in New York and like he's got to watch all these recorded. He's watching all the tapes. And he's like, all of a sudden he's hearing a different scene. He's like, who is this kid? Who the hell is this guy? He's not even

doing the right scenes. And they told him why. And he was like, fly him out here. And it, you know, and that was it? I fought through testing and ended up booking. How many times did you, how many times did you read? Once in a tape room in New York, once with Stephen O'Neill, because they wanted a separate thing in New York and then twice here at the network in the studio and that was it. Jesus. Inside of you is brought to you by Rocket Money. If you want to save money, then listen to me because I use this. Ryan uses this.

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different tiers. There's one where I give you packages every couple of months, a bunch of gifts, and write a note, you get your name shatted out on the podcast and much, much more. But most importantly, you'll be helping the podcast. So if you want to become a member of Patreon and support this podcast, that would be awesome. So just go to Patreon, P-A-T-R-E-O-N, Patreon. Patreon.com slash inside of you. And I really appreciate you. Thanks. That was, that was it. I mean, did they tell you that, hey, you're going to be in throughout the whole series? Did they kind of tell you? No, what were you expecting? Pete was very open with all of us. Like, we celebrated at the end of the pilot. That was cool. We didn't know if we were coming back.

And Pete was very real with everybody. He's like, I think we've done something special. The percentages of us coming back for the season, who knows, man, out of our hands. But we made what we wanted to make. His whole model the entire time we were shooting that show is nobody pushes us around. So he did things his way. He wanted things done. Yeah.

You know, I'm going to make the calls. And if I'm going to fail, it's going to, I'm going to fail because I made the call. I'm not going to fail because somebody pushed me into a corner. We made the wrong mistake and I get scapegoated. So it was, it was really, really cool. to have him and then when we came back at the start of season one after we got picked up for a series we had a welcome dinner

you know we did a welcome dinner when we came back and he said to everybody we're not 90210 we're not gonna follow you to the college years this is about the town of Dylan you said you can smell the town that's that's exactly what he was talking about this is about this town and the cycle

that happens in a town like this old people with faded broken dreams who never succeeded in the ways that they want to then putting their regret and their expectation on the next young group of people and utilizing the game of football as a way to judge whether or not they've succeeded at something. And it's like this, you know, it was a really cool thing. But he goes, he goes, your characters may not stay here forever. If you leave the show, that's not the end of your career. And then he told us a story about he

was like, I can't remember what show is Chicago Hope or something like that. It wasn't, I think Chicago Hope or something. Pretty sure of Chicago Hope. And he came back for season two of that show and he realized he's like, I'm going to die here. Like this show's a hit. I'm going to be here for so many years and I want to be a filmmaker. So he left and he made very bad things.

He left the show. Love very bad things. And he made very bad things. And it's like that was the start of Pete Berg's incredible career. And so he made sure he told us in that moment. It's like if your character doesn't come back, it's not because of you. It's because it didn't serve. the story. It didn't certain. You were no longer a part of the town. So he let us know from Jump

Street. But for your character, you know, you get paralyzed. Yeah. And so you got to think, oh, I guess I'm going to be done. Oh, no. I knew that they're going to keep. I knew they were really going to explore. I'm so glad they did. I'm so glad you weren't like that was it. Pete witnessed a young man named David, David Edwards, um, become paralyzed in front of him. and still to this day, Coyowny is one of his A-camera operators, like incredible partner of Pete's in his journey. But Coy was the star receiver of a high school in Austin.

And he was following Coy kind of documenting Coy's journey because Coy was the man at Austin Westlake, went on to play football at the University of Texas. He was the man on campus. So Pete was trying to capture that. Yeah. And then this kid out of this scrappy school at a San Antonio ends up, you know, with a catastrophic spinal injury. And in honor of him, he created the character of Jason Street.

Wow. So for me, I mean, I was just wearing my gridiron heroes T-shirt today at the gym. I met a lot of these guys, Chris Conallis, his dad, Eddie, who started this charity in Texas. And we did a lot of work with them to help support families of kids who have these injuries. So Pete, once I got down there, he was like, will you shave your head? Will you get a tattoo? Like, how far are you willing to go to make sure we have this honest experience for a kid who suffers this injury? Because I want it to be real and I want it to be honest and I want to actually have this thing be impactful just, you know, in honor of, you know, David and all of the other kids out there who are struggling with this.

Because you get letters for the first month. people come to visit you for the first month but when you go home and you've got to widen every doorway in your house you got to put a ramp everywhere who's there then who's helping do that what's the insurance doing what are the couples like the parents like how's their relationship strains so they showed a lot of that so i knew i'd be around a little while for that story to at least be shared with everyone and that's important that's important to hear you know you're right it's just it's sort of like you get all this attention and people are loving you and giving you know showing up and but after a while people go on with their lives and you're still

dealing with this yeah you know and that's that's a very daunting sort of horrifying feeling yeah so uh that support is just immense especially for you know his friend who he's supported um yeah that's that's that's crazy have you ever dealt with anxiety or depression you ever deal with that so man um you know i think uh i never did really i i would get stage fright like i don't i don't mean to make light of this at all um but like before i go on stage i get i get nervous you want to throw up i yeah my stomach gets sick like you know what i mean like yeah you got to take a shit but that's not but that yeah 100 percent got to you know got to find it a little 102 action but either the thing is man is like no and i i have family members who have dealt with mental health stuff and anxiety and

depression and stuff um very important to me to let them know like there's there's no shame in this this is just something that people deal with so let's talk about it let's get it out there in the yeah yeah after the pandemic i went back to work on lucifer and i had my first ever panic attack and i had so you did have a panic attack i did i have seen people go through things and you don't really have another, we can't have an understanding fully of what is happening to a human being in that moment. No. Unless you've also, and I, and I don't say this lightly.

It was, you know, we had come back to work and I had this, it was an out of, it was an out of body. I had to get out of the stage. I had to get out of all these, because we had masks on, we had all this stuff on. We were putting, like, individual tents. I had to, I had to breathe. I had to get outside and I had like, like,

And I've had, I have asthma. Did you tell anyone or were you embarrassed? Because this happened to me and I was embarrassed, so I didn't tell anyone. No, I talked about it. I went in immediately, actually, and I said, I wish I would have had. I think I might have had a panic attack. Like, I was like, I was, I was sweating in a way that I, I couldn't breathe. I have asthma. So I've, I've, I've, every now and then in a moment where, like, I can't catch my breath. I've got to breathe through a pinhole and I've got to really focus. My vision starts to completely close. It started to feel like that, but it wasn't an attack like that. And then I had, something similar it's tingling you get the tingling it was like it was like they weren't even there yeah it was like they weren't even there i like and i was like ripping stuff off as i was leaving the stage but i think that was very situational for me i don't carry it with me an awful lot um people out there might understand like when we went when we went back to work on the other side of the pandemic the things that we had to do at work people were in full hazmat gowns double masked with like shields over their faces. Yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't do that. I would attack attacks every day. So, and then once you're on the stage, they had different colored lanes and you could only

walk in your lane. No. So he had like purple level crew, red level crew, green level crew, like, white level crew. I'm colorful. I'd fuck it all. Oh my God, it's all brown to you. Yeah. It's just all like, yeah. That's true. But, but I, I was, and you could only walk one way. There was one way traffic. Everybody had to walk in a way where they were not, like, following each other. That's a panic. It was, it was, so it very could have, it very well just could have been situational. And then the only other time I've had it, I, I had to tell people at the mass singer, I need you to get me off the stage.

And I need, and they, we were shooting at a sound stage that had an isolated basketball court in the back corner of this, this lot, the studio lot. And, but there are live fans there. And I did the dress rehearsal and the fans were outside waiting to come in for the actual performance. And so they had to like sneak me out the back and get me on a golf cart and drive me to the back corner of the lot. And I had to get out. I was in this. I had a 35 pound head. I was in a foam costume. I was a gumball machine. Dude, I'm getting a panic attack thinking about this right now. Those are the only two times I've really dealt with it. So now I have a sense of it. So now I really

have. And this is what we all need to have. I think, you know, May was, may is important to me because it's Huntington's Disease Awareness Month. Huntington's disease is in my family. My wife is Jean positive my mother-in-law is symptomatic with Huntington's disease but it's also mental health awareness month and so we kind of what is huntington's disease is a genetic neurodegenerative disease it's best described as having ALS and Alzheimer's and Parkinson's all in one and it's uh it's really tough it's a it's a really tough thing um but are you wearing a band i am yeah i sorry i look down no i notice that you're like in the moment i really i appreciate yeah i wear i wear a band it says family is everything it's a it's a quintessential family disease because it's genetic in nature every

child of a parent with hd has a 50 50 shot of inheriting it it's unlike those other diseases because it is it's something that just does it doesn't skip generations it doesn't happen you know out of nowhere it's it's at your building blocks and your dna it's it's passed down so it tears through families but um it's may was also mental health uh awareness month as as as as well and kelsey and i felt it was like really important to split, you know, our charitable efforts this month and both sides. So I pour a lot into HD awareness and everything in May, but we also took part in a couple of mental health things. So I just, it's just got to get out there. We just, people, if they don't have an understanding, like listening to someone actually talk you through it is so important so that

you get an understanding because, I mean, there's still so many people in this world that are like, anxiety. Insiety is not a real, like when I was growing up, nobody had anxiety. It's like my dad. It's like, come on. Who are? I'm like, you know, I had lost my, my sister. And my dad was really, I mean, to say he was upset as just a fraction of right. He was just a mess. And I said, dad, listen, I really think you should go to a therapist or group therapy.

He's like, and he says to me with conviction, nobody knows what I'm going through. And he felt that. I go, I understand, but there are other people in the world who have lost their daughters, their sons, their mothers, their whole families in a plane crash, things like that. These things happen all the time. And I think that you talking to someone will help. And he's like, no, no, no. And he wouldn't do it.

And I just think that it's a disservice to yourself. You owe yourself every opportunity to live the best, healthiest life you can. And I think if people just are able to talk, like I always talk like their better helps a sponsor. I'm always like, you know, use it's so easy. Now do it online and you can now change your therapist and you don't have to worry about all the things. You don't have to go in.

It's not expensive. It's like just like your body, you need to work on your mind and your thoughts and these intrusive things. And so I always, I agree with you. I think it's like. You know, it's, it's good to be supportive and it's good to, you know, take care of yourself. Yeah. I don't think enough people do that, you know.

It's, it's so interesting. You know, there's no, with, with HD, like, if you find out your family has it, it's your choice, whether you want to get tested or not. And I very often say, there's no right or wrong answer. It's a very personal thing, you know. but if a person is choosing not to go to therapy it's also like then let's service them by talking about it outside of that like it doesn't just have to be in that setting so we continue as as a world to have a general conversation and then maybe that helps a decision get made later you know so no right or wrong in the moment right but if we continue to talk about it

maybe it becomes easier do you know what I mean so I think I think it just does yeah it's with anything if you hold something inside of you it just festers it builds up if you talk about it there's relief yeah it's like you know your body your stress you exercise it helps relief yeah you know um how has life changed after having a daughter oh man um are you know the interesting thing is i i had my son first or i had my we had our son right um and i would hear people tell me, like having a son is awesome, but like, wait till you have a little girl. And I'm like, I don't know that there's like a huge, like, difference for me. Like, there are, of course, going to be little subtle things. Yeah. But I love my kids, like, the same. You know what I mean?

Like, it's just, this world is just so weird. I know. This world is so weird with some of the things that we say. A wait to have a daughter. Yeah, like, what do we do? Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. So, of course, like the need to protect her to like all of these things, it's all there, of course. But I kind of have the same feelings with him too. I mean, this world is crazy now, man. This world is, you know, it's so much more. Everything is so right there on top of everybody that like keeping your kid shielded from all this stuff is it's impossible. So how do you navigate it? And I look at the way I parent both of them. It's very similar. What's your son's name? McCoy. McCoy. McCoy, Lee Porter. And my. daughter's name is Clover Ash Porter. My wife lost her oldest sister when my wife was 11. Her oldest sister was 15 at the time. Man. And her name was Ashley. So we put her name and see the middle names of our kids. So Clover Ash and McCoyley. I love that. Yeah. With Amex Platinum, access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot trackside. So being a fan for life turns into the trip of a lifetime. That's

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Yes, every day, man. My old football coach used to say, you get better, you get worse every day. Choice is yours. And every day I just try to get better. And, you know, whether it's, I'm dealing with the torn labor room right now, like, I go to the gym. Oh, shoot, I got this range of motion back. Oh, I can throw up 50s today. You know, like, whatever it is.

like, I take, I take those little victories, man. Take it everywhere you can get it. That's, if you can do it. Yeah. That's great. I think a lot of people don't. They look at all the negative things instead of like, hey, this was cool. This happened today.

I got to meet you. I got to hang out with you for an hour. I got to see my buddy Ryan. I got to hang out with my dogs. I got to, or just like other, hey, you know, I fixed my car. Fucking rights. Or like when you tell your kid something that you really love and they're like, that sounds cool, dad.

Like my son is playing. My son is literally playing Final Fantasy. sixers was like my all time favorite game and he got it for his birthday and he is just in love with this game now and I'm like that's a win man's a win that's just that's a little me that's awesome that's a little me over there he's got he's he just had his 10th birthday yet a triforce etched into the side of his hair like he was he had a full video game birthday I'm like this kid this kid is this you get little wins every day with kids too so you know don g besides acting what are you most passionate about? Uh, sports.

Sports. Raj, tell me about the process for finding the voice of Peter Quill, who already had a well-known live action portrayal and how this process differed for other characters you've voiced. All right. This isn't a quick answer, but when I did it for the first time, it was with telltale games. They're an incredible storytelling studio. Everything was player-based decision-making, and that changes the narrative as you play through it. So you have to play star lord in four different ways really multiple more than that like you know there's four decisions that then compound into more more more decisions um in the very first five minutes of the game they kill thanos who is like the biggest bad and the avengers movies they did it because they're like we are telling our own guardian story

we want people to know that right away so kill him and that gave me the freedom to go okay we're making our own thing so i'm going to try and do my own thing yeah chris pratt is brilliant yep He's everything. I just had to try and figure out my own way in. And the thing is, is Peter Quill raised by a single mom. Same thing for me. Peter Quill has, like, leadership, superheroism, all this stuff, like, put upon him. And he's not necessarily equipped for it all the time.

So one of the very first things I did was the first, like, jump scare in the game. I made sure I yelped. Like, highest pitch yelp I could. Like, you know. And they laugh so hard. And I was like, that's where my Peter Quill exists. He's got high energy, but he also has like a wide emotional range. And he's just not afraid to show it because he doesn't know better, right?

He's still kind of like this kid, you know. You love playing that. Oh, I love playing that character. I've played him in like 12 different games now. I'm Star Lord and Marvel rivals now. But it all started with this really in-depth story that you play over like 12 hours. It's like if you do. played them all? Like, if you play through all the choices, there's so many, well, I mean, I had to voice them all. I had to voice every single, like, you know, and certain things were like, I mean, if you make certain decisions earlier in the game, you and Gamora end up together in like this really heartfelt relationship. If you make different decisions, you never speak again after the fourth episode. It's like, that's how varying the stories are in that particular game. So I got a fully in-depth, like, immersive. I know everything about my, my Peter Quill at this point.

So then voicing all these things, you know, all these games after that. Dude, I want to talk voices with you because you, yeah, but later. No, you've done a lot more than me, but like the. No, but you are, okay, let me just say this. Okay. Like Kevin Conroy is Batman. Like Mark Hamill is the Joker, like to me, somebody who love Justice League and Justice League Unlimited, like you are the Flash.

You're the Flash that like all of the other animated voices of the Flash. like live up. So I voiced the flash like last year, but like a psychotic version of him. I love that. Suicide squad killed the Justice League was so. It was a blast playing. It was easy. It was fun. It was a great cast. It was like and I can't believe the reaction. Look, when I go to cons, people love the flash. Dude. And I'm like, what? Like, it's hard to imagine. People, it's cool. How did you find your flash though? Like, what did you do? In the audition, they said, hey, give me three different versions of this. I auditioned for it while I was doing Lex Luthor and Smallville. and I just did a voice and I then I made it high pitched more kid like and then I you know uh and I did

another one and and then um they said well do it again in that voice and do the whole read like that and I just kind of found it and it was like it was easy and I didn't think I was going to get it they go thanks so much it was great and I left and then my agent called me and says hey you got the role of the flash and I'm like oh my god and I wasn't a big superhero fan so it was like I'm playing Lex Luther. I never read a comic book. I'm playing The Flash, never read a comic book, didn't watch those kind of cartoons. This is really cool, but I think that if I was a bigger fan of it all, it would have been too much for me. So I'm glad that I kind of fell in love with all these characters later on as opposed to going, holy shit, holy shit. Like, yeah, I just,

you know, so that's it. Was being a villain and being so serious like all the time on Smallville? Was it like freeing to go in and beat a flash? Yeah, anybody who knew me It was like when I first got it, my friends were like, dude, you're Lex Luthor? Come on, dude. I'm like, no, I can act, dude. I could fucking act.

Wait till I turn it on. And, you know, I tried to prove, you know, you're always trying to prove yourself. And then this was like the antithesis. This was like, you know, just fun, trying to find the good and everything, trying to be the life of the party, trying to not take things to.

But I appreciate it. Do you think subconsciously you really wanted that? that's why like finding that voice was easy yeah because i am that guy i'm the guy that's always trying to i think you know it's it's a quality but it's also exhausting as i always ryan could attest to this but like wanting my friends to have a good time i want everybody to have fun i want everybody i want to put people around each other that have fun that could you know i don't want to take things too seriously when we have horror movie nights with the boys i just want to fucking you know all of a sudden i'll fart during a serious moment you know i want

everybody to laugh and enjoy it and yeah that's kind of who i am so the flash i feel like is that he's the essence of like he's a he's a guy who just hasn't grown up and uh but he can do the right thing he does the right thing yeah he needs to do it oh that's awesome um little lisa what is your favorite quality about yourself it's a very hard question to answer but i think i'm not afraid to say yes i i've I've been able to do that. I have a lot of friends who like overthink things consistently. Yeah. But I watched my parents like they they busted their ass to like make art and in their band

and make music and, you know, they had some limitations. And eventually they had to kind of stop. And, you know, when I was in high school, my mom was a school bus driver. My dad was laying cable for a phone company. And they taught me everything. I know about work ethic and also about like appreciation and gratitude if I get the chance to go do something artistically like it's it almost feels like it's never going to be the wrong thing to do um you know I had a full-time contract at Universal Studios as the Wolfman as an example and

then I got an opportunity or I got an offer to go to Japan for a year and at the time I was full full-time contract at Universal I had an acapella group that I still perform with every now and end of this day, voice play. Big shout out to voice play. Just recorded a song with them for the launch of season three of Ginny and Georgia. But, you know, I left them and I left my full-time gig. And I'm 20, you know, 20-21 making full-time money. I was, things were good, man. But you just went with your gut. I said, I get to, I get to go to Japan for 10 months and do a show. Yes. And I came back. And then. Somebody asked me if I want to go beatbox off Broadway

and a show called Toxic Audio. And I said, yes. And all of it led me to where I am. Isn't that something? And it's because I, you know, and almost every time I do something that ends up being a poorer product, whatever, you still can learn almost more from doing something

where a lot of things went wrong than doing something where everything went right. So I learned a lot from Friday Night Lights, but I think there's other projects, maybe I've done where I've learned just as much about how much I can give, how much responsibility it actually is of my own, because a lot of times it's not, but we wear all of these things. You know, if it's a, it's a failure on TV to get canceled right away. It's a failure of the box office, whatever. But what did you gain from it? Yeah, but what did you gain? And when I look

back at like, Speed racer. Speed racer bombed when it first came out. But I learned so much on that. And eventually, I think a lot of us are proven to be right because now people love the movie. It was just timing. It was just the world. I've had those too. All of a sudden, 10 years later, people are like, I love that. But my personal experience on that, working with the Wachowski's, working with that cast, learning how it all was really done. Like, I don't never regret that.

So, you know. I love that, man. Look, you've done so much, the good wife, heart of Dixie, front of night lights, band slam. Tons of tons of voice work. Speed racer, prom night, the good guy. Now, Ginny and Georgia playing Mayor Rudolph, Randolph. Is it a Rudolph? Yeah. So whatever.

Maya Rudolph. Maya, playing Maya Rudolph. I'm a Netflix smash hit. Season three is coming out, June 5th. Everybody's excited about this. This is a show that everybody loves. So check that out, June 5th, season three. I'm excited for you

And I'm happy for you And I'm glad I got to meet you Because You never know You never know who someone is Who people are Until you actually sit down with them And talk and get to know

And your values and the person I could just tell That your mother and stepdad did a great job And You know Your grandfather would be so proud of you And I think that's just, you know, I'm glad you came today. Yeah, man. No, thank you so much for having me.

Shout out to mom and dad. Robin and Butch Porter, they're the best. Rockstar parents you could ever have. What's up, Butch? I love that name, Butch Porter. Let's play some music together. He's a drummer, 100%. Butch Porter, the drummer. No, man, I thank you for having me, dude. This is, this was awesome. You know, you never know what to expect when you come into a room and you're like, how many questions you got queued up here. you know what i 90% of it was just us talking i just kind of looked and go which is why i loved it man yeah that's what i do i usually write stuff down so i could always what about but it's more about just getting lost in conversation getting to know someone and like what makes them

tick and what do they do when they're stressed and what do you know and about their life so it was awesome man so continued success good luck uh netflix season three jenny and georgia june fifth and check out voice play yeah we got uh We got a song coming out the next day, June 6th. So voice play on YouTube, you can find them too. If you want to see a little song and dance. Yeah, I got to start listening to some of your stuff. I'll let you listen to some of the music.

Yes, dude, let's do it. I think you'll dig it. I think you'll like it. I think you'll like some of the songs. I'm excited, man. All right, thanks, dude. Yeah, dude. Summer's here, and you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days,

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