Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - SHANNON ELIZABETH: Saving Animals, American Pie Negotiations, Manifesting Scary Movie & False Perceptions

Episode Date: February 7, 2023

Shannon Elizabeth (American Pie, Scary Movie) joins us this week and shares her experience of handling false perceptions throughout her life - from school, to modeling, to Hollywood, and more. Shannon shares the heart breaking story of what called her to action with her conservationism and her mission of saving animal lives with The Shannon Elizabeth Foundation. We also talk about her experience auditioning and negotiating throughout the American Pie films, how she was able to manifest a role in Scary Movie, and how she might be the best celebrity poker player out there. Thank you to our sponsors: ❤️ Betterhelp: https://betterhelp.com/inside 🟠 Discover: https://discvr.co/3Cnb1V8 __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou 👕 Inside Of You Merch: https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🤣 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod 🌐 Website: https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I've always cracked a little bit. I was trying to save it at the end. Peter Brady over here. Jesus. That's an old reference. You know, I just did something really interesting, and we'll get into the interview, which is a really fun interview today. But there's this place called Pernuvo, and they have these scans, these body scans,

that detect, like, first stage early cancers and a bunch of other stuff. They test like everything except leukemia or something they can detect. So you take this body scan and it pretty much, it's like this new preemptive technological advance in medicine or whatever, but it's this full body scan and Pernuvo does it. So I said, oh, I want to get one of these. So I went and did it. And I'm waiting for my results, but it was pretty awesome. You're there for like 45 minutes or an hour in this like MRI thing, but they put these glasses on you and you can see you watch Netflix. I watched like three episodes of Seinfeld and I was done.

And that was it. and it was easy, but it could save people's lives. And I was like, why don't I jump on this? Maybe if there's something wrong, I could fix it. Seinfeld is saving people's lives, is what you're saying? That's what I got out of this. But like, look, I'm not getting paid for this, but it's obviously a great thing. If you want to do it, just go, in fact, you can go to P-R-E-N-U-O-O-com slash Michael,

and you'll get a $300-dollar discount. Prenuvo.com slash Michael. I thought it was really cool. And I can't wait to read my results. But it's, you know, I'm not a hypochondriac, but if I could, if somebody can detect something before it became serious, if I had something, isn't that what you want? Yeah. If a doctor says, hey, your bill of health is great. But if the doctor instead said, hey, your bill of health is, it's great.

Right now is great. You do have this one concern. It's not really a concern right now, but it could be a concern later. So you could handle it now if you'd like. Wouldn't that be better news? Yes. I mean. Rather than do it later?

rather than maybe not being able to handle it then anyway um great guests in the podcast i've known this lady this woman for a while she's a animal rights activist she saves so many animals um she doesn't even live here anymore she um as much as she still loves acting she still does a lot of other things and uh this is going to be a really cool show i like how she opens up but she i mean like she she's like saving rhinoceruses and then you say rhinoceruses i was uh rhinoceri you know i should know i don't know you should as one who is frequently referred to by nickname as rhino rhino oh yeah you should you should definitely know that i don't um anyway uh it's it's a it's a great episode um just a few things um what what are a few things where you gonna be

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if you know any good horror movies let me know shoot me a tweet tell me to watch something because everything I see is shit absolute shit I mean almost everything I was watch is just dreadful. There were a couple things you were raving about recently. Well, it wasn't the menu. The menu's not a horror movie. I know.

I didn't hate the menu. I didn't see it. I just didn't love it. I thought it was like overrated. It was like the first 30 minutes you're like, oh, this is great. And then the second half of it was just, I don't know. Yeah.

Yeah. I never saw it. Yeah, well, you don't have to. Yeah. But anyway, let's get into it. Let's get inside of Shannon Elizabeth. It's my point of view. You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum.

Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. You saved peanut. That's all you do is save animals. That's pretty much your life now. I mean, yeah, that's my mission is animals. So, yeah. It's crazy. You know, I used to have my animal rescue.

animal avengers. So the charity now is just a changed version of that where we do bigger animals. Right. The Shannon Elizabeth Foundation, right? Yeah. Look at peanut. Peanut's so sweet. It's amazing. We'll get to this because first of all, thank you for doing this. It's so cool. You're in Cape Town, South Africa. Your how many hours ahead you are, let me figure it out, because I'm not good with math. If it's 10 a.m. here, it's nine hours. It's not. You're not. You're, you know, you're nine hours ahead. Did you have a long day? Are you tired? You look refreshed. You look very good. It's, it's really hot here right now. It's very windy outside. I picked up my husband from the hospital today because he had hurt his arm. He was in the hospital overnight? Two nights.

What happened to him? He was actually in here. I just brought him food and he had, I had given him a knife that I'll never give him again because it was just a bit sharper to cut something. And he stood up and he slipped on a scarf that was on the floor and the knife went into his forearm. You can't even make it up. Like deep? So it went into his forearm and it cut his tendon. Like the tendon that keeps your hand from doing this. From moving around flopping from one side to the other. So he couldn't do it. He couldn't move his fingers. At first, he couldn't. And then as he was there for a while, he realized he could move his fingers. But he knew that that part wasn't working. And they wanted a surgeon to come in and get in there and really check it out. And they said it was worse than they thought it was. So he was...

Was there a lot of blood? A ton of blood? Yeah. Yeah. There's still blood on the floor here. It's like everywhere. Did you almost pass out or are you kind of tough like that? No, no, I'm tough. I went and grabbed a towel and he said, okay, hold it tight and I'm going to pull my hand out. And, and then I ran upstairs and got like my purse and phones and everything. And we, I, luckily, there's a hospital about 10 minutes away. So I raced him there to emergency. Was the knife stuck in his arm? No. Okay. Oh, my God. Because then I start thinking, do you pull it out? What do you do? Right. Right. Yeah. No, he said that it, he thinks it fell out right away. He's not even sure. He doesn't know how it happened. It went in and out. He doesn't know if it went in and cut, but it was a

pretty big cut from the photos. And then the doctor cut it open even more because he said he didn't care about a scar. He cared about his handworking. So they cut it open a lot more to make sure they could make it work again. Oh my God. So only butter knives from now on, Shannon. Not even. He gets a fork and a spoon. I'll cut everything. I mean, look, we're both vegans. He didn't really need. a steak knife we don't eat steak so how long have you been a vegan i haven't had meat in it's got to be close to 30 years 30 years what would happen if you had a hamburger right now i think i'd feel sick you'd probably get sick after not having it for so long right yeah i think it would hurt my stomach do you think you feel there's a significant or is it too long to remember do you feel just

better being a vegan is it just do you feel like it's healthier it's a healthier thing you know i i'm really torn with it. I think everyone has to explore what's right for their body. And I think that changes over time as well. I mean, for me, whether it's the best thing for my body, I don't know. Probably not. But at this point in my life, I probably need something more than what I'm getting. But for me, it's ethics. My mission is to help animals. And I just can't eat one and then save another. It doesn't make sense to me. Right. That does. So, I mean, I have to be this way, even if I don't want to be. Yeah. You know, but I mean, I have good friends that are on strict, strict keto carnivore diets and they do great on it. And you don't judge them. You don't say anything. You're like, live your life.

No, no. I actually wanted to learn about it for my husband's father, like my father-in-law, because he needed to lose some. And I knew he wasn't going to do a vegan diet, but I thought keto. is something he could do. So I started learning about it so then I could help teach him about it. And it's working really well for him. So I think there's something out there for everyone. Everyone's body is different. So you have to do what's right for you. Yeah. I think I need a change. I don't know if it's becoming a vegan or whatever it is. But I think, you know, I drag ass a lot. Maybe it's because I'm 50. Maybe because there's some things going on. I don't know. But like I think I need to improve my diet regardless. I think that probably,

What do you eat? You know, like, I just woke up, you know, a little while ago and I had a, I had some peanut butter toast and a half a banana. That's not bad. That's good. Is it regular toast? It's gluten-free bread. Okay. Well, that's a little bit better.

I mean, yeah, a lot of carbs, a lot of people just don't do well with carbs as they get older because carbs is what turns to sugar. So it just depends what your goals are, you know. My goals are to have more energy, Shannon. I need more energy. then stop the carbs right then don't eat the carbs no not necessarily there's lots of ways of doing it it just depends what your what your goal is all right well I'm like I'll figure it out I'll figure it out well look I want to get into this whole animal rescue and conservationism that's the right word is that the right word I think it is I've never heard it called that but

conservationism but she's a conservationist so wouldn't it be conservationism you know what guys I'm not here for an English class for an English lesson that's not my thing. I'm just here to educate you on who Shannon Elizabeth is and what she does. Now, you have a pretty great, you've had a pretty great career and you kind of transitioned a lot. I mean, you're still acting, but you're like, you just fell in love with this, you know, this whole idea of helping animals and moving to Cape Town. And it's just, it's amazing how you've just changed your whole life over the past years. And I want to know how you got into it. But first, I want to rewind. I want to go back to Houston, in Texas a little bit.

Because you were born in Houston, you moved to Waco. And the first thing, I looked at my engineer, Ryan, here. And the first thing we think of is like, Waco, David Koresh, she went to Waco High School. And that's all we know. I think that's all, if you ask anybody about Waco, they'll just say, oh, yeah, that thing that happened. So obviously, there's more to Waco than just the incident that happened with David Koresh. But were you a pretty happy child?

Were you, were you outgoing? Were you popular? What was it like growing up? My perception of me in school, I've found out over the years, is very different from other people's perception of me. And everyone's going to have a different version of that. So to me, no, I wasn't popular, but I was always trying to be popular. I always wanted to fit in. I wanted to have friends. And I would try to have friends in like every clicky group there was because I didn't feel like I needed to be part of just one group.

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but you get in the fight with one of your friends, then that whole group is mad at you. And it was this whole thing for me that I just always felt like there, you know, I never fit in. So I would see other people come to the school brand new and they would instantly fit in somewhere. And I never really fit in, and that was really hard for me. And I did try out for cheerleader my freshman year and my senior year. And I only got it those years. I only tried out those years, but I got it those years because it was based on skill and not popularity. The other two years, I didn't try out because it was based on popularity, and I knew I wouldn't get it. Wow. So I did dance team. And then I was a tennis player. I did competitive tennis. So I was constantly trying to join clubs and be part of

things. But it's just, you know, high school wasn't. We're similar then. See, I didn't think we had any similarities really. I mean, we do because we like saving animals and we're like, you know, I think I'd like to call myself kind. I'm a kind person, I think. But like I felt like the same way in high school. I didn't, I didn't fit in. I was, I'd hang out with the golf people. And I'd hang out with some of the, like, some of the popular people. Then I'd hang out with the stoners and the, the guys who took electricity and mechanics. And, you know, they'd go out and for smoke or something. And I'd hang out with them.

But I didn't really fit in anywhere. I didn't know who I was. I didn't really, I just, if you asked people, see, when you talk about perception and people's perception of me and my perception of myself growing up, I think that it's pretty linear. It's pretty consistent. I think people would say, if you said Michael Rosenom, they'd either say, I don't, who? I don't, I remember, like, there's this really small, weird kid. I was just like the small, sort of insecure, weird kid who didn't start puberty to late,

who couldn't get girls, who couldn't, and people's perception, people remember that. They certainly do. I think when I go home now, they're like, oh, you grew. When did you grow? And, like, you know, and then he became sort of famous. And then, so it was just, I think. everybody's perception of me was was what I thought of myself in a lot of ways it was just like I really wasn't I wasn't going anywhere I didn't fit in you never would have thought of me as the the guy who's

gonna the most ambitious the most you know but did you feel like you there was something inside of you that wanted something different something more than Waco something more than just like you felt like innately there was something inside of you that wanted more um I always knew I wasn't going to stay stay in a small town. I always wanted to travel. My dad knew that I wanted to act. And it was my senior year. And there was a local band that was casting for their first music video. And they wanted it to be there in their hometown. And my dad read about it in the paper and said they're doing open casting calls if you want to go. So I went and I got what was considered. I guess a featured extra.

And then, oddly enough, the director was Antoine Foucaux. What? This was before he had done, like, training day and everything. Holy shit. Project, yeah. And the producer was from propaganda films. Wow. And he and I just got to talking, and I told him, you know, that acting is what I wanted to do.

And for some reason, he kept saying, have you ever modeled? Because if you come to New York over your senior Christmas break, I'll take you to some agencies, see some photographers. And I never really wanted to model, but I thought about it. And models, at that time, models did commercials and actors did commercials. So I was like, hmm, maybe it's a way for me to get into acting. So my parents, he came and talked to my parents. They actually agreed to it because they were like, he was, actually a really nice guy, and he didn't ask for money. He wasn't asking for anything. He was offering to help. And so we went over Christmas, and I got signed to an agency. The light goes

a good. What agency? It was called Cameo, a small agency, but really great people. And nine days after I graduated, I moved to New York. So that was in my trajectory. It was always going to be like when I could leave, I was just going to start my life. Were your parents nervous for you? Were they like, oh, I don't know, New York? You're going from Waco, Texas to New York City to be a model. You're like, what, 17, 18? 17, yeah.

And who are you going to live with? Where are you going to go? I mean, that's a big trip. So we stayed in NYU housing. So all the NYU housing over the summer were for interns and models and whoever, you know, was coming in town for the summer. And that's the housing that the modeling agency was using. So it was cool because, I mean, I met people from all over that came in just for the summer.

So I became friends with people that lived in L.A. and people that are writers now, big writers in Hollywood that were there from Michigan. And it was really cool. My mom took me and got me settled and left me there. And yeah, I never looked back. It was amazing. So did you feel like, what was it? Was it, did you suddenly feel like, hey, I think I found, this, I fit in here?

No. No, I definitely, I definitely didn't fit in. I was always struggling. And I was always, like, at first, when you first go there as a young model, they, all the girls, they chopped all our hair off and we all looked the same. And then we're going to all these auditions and we all look the same. I'm like, I don't even understand. Like, and I hated the way like they had done my hair, but you didn't have a choice at that

point. And I was doing it because my parents said, look, we've put money aside for you for college, but if you want to use it on this instead, you can. But when it's gone, it's gone. Then you have to come home. So like, okay, well, I can't let that happen. But they never wanted me to resent them if they had said no and always look back and wonder what if. So that's why they let me do it because they knew that I could always go to college later. Right. And this opportunity was now. So I was very homesick for a long time, and I traveled a lot doing it, but it's not like

when you travel now, when you're older, and you have a bit more money where you can explore, and you would travel places above ground versus below ground. Yeah. You know, like when you have no money, you're always traveling underground, so you're not seeing anything and I wasn't into the culture of different countries yet you know I wasn't I was just there to try to work and make money so I didn't have to go home right you know and that's that was my whole goal was to just do well enough that I could make money break even not have to go home like and and figure out something else right what was your first big break as a model that you're

like oh my God I got this or a commercial what was it that you're going to make some money That's what you mean by break. Well, you know, listen, when you're doing nothing and you're coming out of high school and you start doing things, a Burger King commercial could be the biggest break you've had or anybody's had. You know, it's funny because the first, I think, printed something in print in a magazine that I did was for menstrual cramps. Well, there you go. Yeah. For menstrual cramps.

It was just me drinking a thing of water in an outfit. like I'd been working out, but it was for cramps. I'm like, yeah. How many, it was it a commercial or did it know it was print? No, it was a print ad, yeah. And did it pay pretty well? Like back then, what was it like? What did you get paid for a print ad like that?

$500,000, $1,000? I mean, maybe. I mean, print ads back then, I mean, I don't know what it's like now, but throughout my whole modeling career, the printed magazine things didn't pay well. What paid well were catalogs. The things that like JCPenney catalog, you know, newspaper catalog or their big main catalog, that's where the money was. Bloomingdale's.

Yeah, Dillards, things like that. Let me ask you quickly, did you send a copy of the menstrual cramps print to your parents and say, look, I've made it. Yeah, I'm sure. And they looked at each other like, well, darling. They were still excited for you. see my family my parents i remember i was in new york and i go hey i got this movie and they're like what is it yeah i go yeah it's this independent movie and they're like well so it's not a real

movie no it's independent well what does that mean is it a who who's in it well no but oh fuck i'm a failure yeah there was no excitement which is great yeah we were so excited to book a job yeah they never were as excited until like I got something big that they go oh I okay I know that that's a network that's real okay you know but so what was

the biggest thing the one that kind of puts you on the map that you were like holy shit for modeling or what was it what was your first big break I don't think I ever was on the map for modeling to be honest when I went

to LA my plan was to drive to L.A. and drive cross-country hitting all the major modeling markets for catalog and building up my money. And then my plan was to go back to L.A. and start taking acting classes. So I didn't think I was ready to go conquer L.A. yet. So I went there to visit a couple friends that I had made in the beginning and including that producer. He was in L.A. now. And I visited a few people. And my agency in Dallas said, well, look, while you're there, go see some photographers, get some pictures done. They have the best photographers there. Go see an agency. So I did. And I signed, I think I was with Ford first. So I signed with Ford in L.A. That's a big one.

Yeah. Somehow, eventually I got with Ford and with Elite at different times. And I don't know how I did that. But I definitely wasn't one of their top models. I think I just made enough to get by. But I did some auditions while I was there, and I booked a commercial. And I'm like, okay, that's good. And then I booked another commercial. And they had to Taft Hartley me to get my SAG card. Tell everybody what Taft Hartley is. Gosh, I barely remember.

Somebody has to sponsor you when it's a union commercial. And you've done, I think the first one you can get by with not being union. But the second one, somebody has to sponsor you to get into the union. And it's one of the best ways to get in the union because it can be quite hard to get in otherwise. And so because I'd booked two commercials that were both union, I got in the union. And so my whole plan of like the crossover model actor thing was starting to fall into place. So I never left LA. Did you think that you were like when you were growing up, did you think I'm just going to live in a small town?

I know you said you want to get away. But was there part of you that kind of like, was that feeling like, I want to get married, I want to have kids, I don't want to do this. This is too much. Oh, you're shaking your head. You never thought that. You were always ambitious. I never, I was never the kind that wanted to have kids. I never thought about like a family or anything because that would slow down my own ambitions. I was always very much about I have goals. I have dreams and nothing couldn't throw me off of that. Right. Did your parents say anything? Did your parents like, did your parents ever go, you know, I'd love you to get married, have a family, because my grandma still does that. You know, I think they learned early on because I always said I was never having kids. I think they realized that I wasn't like. Right, right, right. So they, they never really pushed me. They knew that all my dogs were their grandkids. There you go. There you go. And a rhino now. And a rhino. All right. So you're in L.A. now. you're booking commercials, things are starting to go for you, you're taking acting classes, you're getting better and better. By the way, the print stuff, did you ever feel really comfortable? Did you have it down?

Or are you like, I just want to get out of this? I don't really feel comfortable. I felt comfortable with catalog. But only after I went to Taiwan, oddly enough. I remember going to Taiwan and not having a clue what was going on. And the first day, they sent like 10 of us out. We were all staying in a house together. And every place you go to, you have to put on their clothes and you have to hit a pose or a bunch of poses, like as if you were doing a catalog.

And I didn't know what that meant. I didn't know what it was. And I was in tears by the end of the day. And one of the girls that had been there a bunch of times, she said, look, it's like a dance. She taught me like five or six poses. And she said, all you have to do is hit them and then start again. Just cycle through them. And once I got that, I was booking left and right.

I'm like, okay, that I can do. And so then I started booking. And I was very happy to just do that kind of stuff because I've never had that look of that, you know, that hard, seductive European look where if you don't smile, you look sexy. Like, I have to smile. Like, I'm the smiley girl, which is like. I know that.

I know that. We all do. We've all done that. We're taking pictures for a movie. premiere or at the globes or wherever the hell you are and they start taking pictures and you go from like kind of like natural smile to like hmm i don't do that i sometimes just close my mouth because i look like a goofball smiling but i just kind of go mm-hmm mm-hmm now there's very few pictures in me out there not smiling because i don't like the way i look not smiling really well you have a

great smile if you google me almost every picture is smiling and almost every picture is my left side By the way, were you constantly as a model and young going out in New York, going to Taiwan, in L.A. Were you, I mean, it's a stupid question because I know what you're going to say, but were you constantly hit on guys constantly hitting on you? No. Come on. No. I think I was quite awkward. I was very shy.

I'm still very shy. Like, I'm not an outgoing person. I have to try. And it's only, it's actually because of modeling that I started learning that I started learning that. I had to try because it was when I was in Dallas. I was in a modeling house and maybe a couple weeks in, I went out with a bunch of the models there. I just remember we were in the car. We were having fun and we came home and we were chatting. And they were like, you know, we thought you were such a bitch, but you just sat around and you didn't like talk to us or

anything. I was like, but I was really scared. I was shy. You guys were all friends. And I just got there. They're like, yeah, but you know, you weren't talking to us, so we didn't like you, but now we do. And I'm like, okay, so now lesson learned, I have to try to come out of my shell quicker so that that perception isn't out there because that wasn't my attention. I was just scared. You know what? I get it. I remember the first time meeting you and just like throughout the years after I sort of knew you. And I just remember, I was like, oh, you're just, you were just you you weren't necessarily trying you're just you're you're polite but you you didn't seem like you're like hey how's it going i'm nice you should like me you were just you but that's kind of who you

you are you are sort of a shy person you are sort of and i thought my because i'm insecure as fuck my first thought was she doesn't like me at all and then as i talked to you i got to know you a little more i was like oh wait a minute i think she thinks i'm okay i don't you know i don't and it just, but it took a minute. You're not that kind of person that just immediately goes to somebody and people are like, oh, I love her. I love her right away. You don't, you don't put that on. It's, you know, and I like that about you. I have to turn it on. I have to really consciously be in a space where I'm like, okay, I'm on. I'm going to talk to everybody and I'm not going to be shy. And once in a while I can do it. But generally, it's just not me. I have to build up to it.

You know, and a lot of people that I've become friends with are that kind of person. And that's how we became friends because I'm standing in the corner not talking to anybody. And they're like, hi, how are you? What's going on? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, so like when I did that 70 show, that's how I became friends first with Mila. Because Mila is like that. She was always this young, vibrant, like, hey, what's going on?

And our dressing rooms were next to each other. So she would always come over and talk to me. And I loved it. Wait, Mila from 70 show? Hella Coonis. Yeah. So she's like that. She's very personable and very open.

Yeah. Really, she used to be. I mean, I don't know. I haven't seen her in a while, but that's what broke the ice for me on that show was her being so bouncy and like fun, you know. So she made you feel comfortable. She was really sweet. Yeah. Isn't that nice when you hear that about people, when you find out, you know, they were good to other people.

They were good to guest stars. They were good to, because you were a recurring character on that 70 show, season what? seven or eight season seven or eight by the way Ryan and I Ryan's my engineer who you can't see here who's my my cohort where it's similar I'm sort of the hey how you doing you know want everybody to have a good time and Ryan's really nice guy but he's kind of like subdued a little bit he's a little bit chill he's like you know he's not going to go up to you go hey man what's you're from you know he's not that guy you know so he's similar inside of you is brought to you buy rocket money if you want to save money then listen to me because i use this ryan uses

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actually. Really? So it was one of those things where I was, I think I was always that girl that if you can't find anyone else, I was good enough that I could come in and like book it because they were out of options. And I think that's why I got it. Yeah, me too. Because my, I remember my agency going, okay, they need somebody who can act, who can wear a bathing suit because you have to swim. That can play tennis. And I played competitive tennis growing up. And that could do this accent. And so because I'd never really done an accent, what I decided to do, and I don't know, for someone who's shy, I don't know where I found it within me to do this, but because they needed somebody to start, like, the next day, I went in there, and I didn't want them to judge my accent. So I went in there only speaking the accent, saying this was my real accent. Like, my, my parents were. What was it? Just talk to me like this, or is the best you can remember?

It's like, you know, like, no, you know, my parents, they talk like this at home. So this is how I talk. I don't really, I mean, I know I've been living here a long time, but I just talk like this. And they're like, great, you talk like that. We don't have to think about your accent. So you've faked it. And I think that's why I got it because they didn't realize until I was in wardrobe fittings the next day when I finally dropped it. They were like, oh, you don't actually have an accent.

Oh, my gosh. That's ballsy. I know. I don't know where I found it within me to do it, but I did. But you planned on it. Before you went in there, you're like, I'm going to talk like this, and I'm going to make them love me, and I play tennis, and everything's great. Yeah, and it was great.

I mean, there were so many, because if you remember the show, there were always so many great guest stars on the show, John McEnroe. I think I played tennis with John McEnroe on the show. What? Zappa was my boyfriend at the end, I think, of the episode or something. So there were like so many cool people. I think John Sally might have been in the episode as well.

I haven't seen it in so long. But that was the first thing where I had enough to do throughout the whole episode that I used that as my reel. I stopped trying to put a reel together and I just gave that episode to people as my reel. And it worked. And it worked. And you started booking shit. Well, because of it, I got a better like agent and manager. And with the manager.

I had he was he was friends he had gone to college with my ex at the time the who I was with at the time and and he was doing him a favor to let me come in and talk to him so I went in and I chatted with them and I left him this VHS of my ages us VHS thing well perfect perfect but he's like I take 10% on everything you do, including modeling, I got up to leave. I was like, nope, because I've been doing that for a long time without you. You're not touching it. And he's like, well, that's what I take. I go, okay, see you later. And I left. And I got up and left. And as I got to the door, he stopped me. Are you serious? You had the balls to get up and just say, no, no, you got up and left.

Yeah. I mean, I've been modeling for so long on my own. And I have a modeling agency that takes 20%. So why am I giving this guy another 10? Good for you. It didn't make sense. So if 30% gone plus taxes, no. So he stopped you and goes, okay, fine, 5%. Yeah. And he said, no, nothing, nothing off the modeling. He might have even tried to say 15% at the time. And I said, no, because I know the going rate's 10.

Right, right. So he took you on. Because a lot of people back then would do that, right? Oh, yeah. It was always 15%. They took 15%. Your agent would take 10%. Your lawyer would take 5%.

Taxes were like 30 or 40%. I mean, you were left with, You know, you make $100,000, which is a lot of money, you get like 40. Yeah. People think, you know, this guy makes $20 million. He makes nine. Still a lot of money. But it's not 20.

So it is. So he took you on. He says, okay, I'm going to take you on. And how soon after were you booked in something? I mean, I did. I don't remember. So I, gosh, I can't remember the order of things of what I did with him or versus other people. I mean, I did for a while.

I did a bunch of those, like Saturday morning kids shows, like, those saved by the bell type of things that were, I don't remember the names of all of them, but I did a guest stars on a bunch of those, but it was probably within the year or two that I got American Pie. Now, was American Pie the same sort of thing where you go, I'm going with an accent? I'm going to think they, I want them to think I talk like this. No. No, I don't remember exactly what I did, but I do remember that the casting director came over to me and he's like, look, I'm going to call you back for the directors, but you got to work on your accent because, I mean, look, I'm not saying this. He said this. I don't know if it's not PC, but he is like, try not to sound deaf because that's how I sounded doing the accent to him. That's what he said to you. So you went home and you go. oh, well, how do I not okay? And you just worked on it. Yeah, I don't remember how I worked on it after that. I think I worked with a few different dialect coaches.

I just don't remember at what point. How much time did you have to prepare the second time around? I don't remember. Just not a long time. You had to work fast. Is it something? Yeah, is it something you could just jump into, like you jumped into the Russian? you just jump into that accent now?

I mean, it's the same accent pretty much. Is it pretty much the same? It was Czechoslovakian, so yeah, I pretty much did the same accent. But, like, well, what had happened, I was in an acting class. And so you know, Joe, my ex. Yes. Okay. Are you guys still friendly?

Are you still friendly? He's actually managing me. He's helping manage me while I'm here. So, yeah. Beautiful. What a rarity. What a rare thing in Hollywood. An ex-husband manages his ex-wife.

Good for you guys. Yeah. That's cool, man, because I know it wasn't easy in the beginning after the breakup. It was like there was a lot of distance for a while. For two years. For two years. Yeah. And then we found our way back to being friends.

And now, like, we help each other. So, yeah. Oh, that's beautiful. No, he's a great guy. But he and I were in an acting class together. And at one point there was a scene I was trying to do from Pulp Fiction and I was trying to do French and I can't do a French accent. And he said, remember when class, when you tried to do French, do that accent because it sounded Russian. I was like, oh, okay.

It's just one of those accents that is easier for me. Like everybody has an accent that they can just like fake. I guess. And for some reason, that's just one of them that I could sort of do. But with that said, when I did American Pie, they called me in to do ADR, which is all the voiceover stuff after you've filmed. And they're like, we're going to play with the accent to bed. And so I'd say something.

And they're like, okay, now do less of an accent. And I'd say it again. They were like, do less. I'm like, why are they messing with this accent so much? because I had worked really hard with, like, a dialect coach on this. And so then they said, say things like you've been here for a long time. So then I would say it. And they're like, yeah, that's it.

I go, but I took the accent off on that one. Like, there was no accent left. So after the ADR session, I told all my friends, this movie is going to suck because they had messed with my accent so much. I was like, no, they're ruining it. The movie's going to suck. Like, don't watch it. I was like, I was devastated after ADR.

No. And so when you saw what they had done, what you'd put back into it, when you ADRed all this shit, you went back, did you go back in again? When was the first time you saw or did you go to the premiere and going, I don't know what I'm going to see? So were you doing what I, yeah, were you doing what I would do is telling everybody, look, I'm sorry, I'm probably going to suck in this. I'm probably, my accent's terrible.

Just don't judge me. You weren't thinking this was going to do it. But a lot of people did say my accent was terrible. And I'm like, well, yeah, because they messed with it. They didn't let me do what I wanted to do. You know what's funny is I remember, I've seen it. And I, honest, I'm not saying this because you're here. I loved it.

I loved it. I really did. I remember saying, wow, that's hilarious. She's hilarious. Oh, my God. I didn't think, unless you speak this language or you, most people don't. The world, they watch and they just say, oh, she has an accent. They don't think too much about things.

I wasn't thinking where is she from exactly. I just was like, oh, this is fun. So I swear to God, me, I dropped dead. That's how I felt. But this, when you saw the movie, did you say, wow, I'm part of something that's going to be huge? No. I didn't know, like, it was, nobody knew it was going to be huge.

But, I mean, there were moments of things happening around us where we could see there were trying to expand because my character was not meant to be a main character. I wasn't in the original poster. But they, they, I was testing well. And so they were expanding my, my presence. And they were starting to include me in a lot of the, the, um, magazine press and stuff that, that people were getting. And sorry, my light is giving me. So you were stealing the show in a lot of ways. I don't know about that. whatever, but you know, you were a likable character who was testing well and they kept bringing you for. And by the way, you probably got paid shit for the movie, the first one. Yeah.

Do you remember going, oh my God, this is what they're paying me? No, I didn't care. They, I would have done it for free. It was my first studio film. So I was so happy to book a role in a studio film. Like, who cares about money? That's, that's great that they're giving me something for it. but then the second one comes and then you're like okay you're like i'm making some money this time but the second one i'll get paid did you ever almost walk away because they're like well her part's not as big as the others i'm sure they tried to oh you know we're not going to pay her as much or did you put your foot down and go hey man i'm getting paid yeah many times i walked away from a lot of offers. Really?

My lawyer and my manager and agent, they all thought I was crazy. And I kept saying no. And they were pushing me to say yes. And I was like, mm-mm. Really? Just like you did with that manager, you got up and you walked the fuck out. I just kept saying, no, they would bring me things. I was like, mm-mm. I just, I don't know why. I guess I had a number in my head. I knew what I felt like they should pay. And we got them to that number and then my team was very excited that I said no all the other times yeah right but because i didn't get paid on the first one hardly like i think it was something like a couple thousand i don't know it wasn't a lot and it was it was nothing and strike when the iron's hot

strike when the iron's hot you're like yeah you know you get like 15 minutes so you got to milk it absolutely you never know this could be it i'm done and if you got it you got it you got it you You've got to get what you can from it because they're going to take everything from you. They're going to try and give you as little as possible. That is just the way it works. Well, and I think every actor, as soon as they're done with a role, if they don't have another one lined up, they think, that's it. I'm never going to book another role.

Like, I would always have this anxiety when I would wrap a movie. If I didn't have something else booked, then, like, I'm never going to work again. What's, you know, and you kind of like freak out and you don't. That's just part of being an actor, I think. All my friends said that they had that feeling. What was your, what's the biggest thing, or your favorite role you've done besides American Pie? What role did you really just have fun and go? I'd love doing this.

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And reveal the grim. We are Wicked and Grim. Follow and listen on your favorite podcast platform. There are a couple. I mean, I loved playing Buffy and Scary Movie. That was really fun. Like, especially, like, when I got to do my death scene, because Keenan, Ivory Wayans really worked with me.

on it for a long time. We shot take after take after take after take. So that was fun. And it was one of the only times we got to do rehearsals. Like to be on a film where you get to have a week in rehearsals to get to like know each other and bond and like it's such a great experience to have that. Yeah. And then there was another film that is just a little hallmark film called Catch a Christmas

Star. And I got to play kind of like a pop. star that goes back home and falls in love with, like, the high school boyfriend kind of thing. And it was just very sweet, but I got to sing. And I'd never gotten to sing in a movie. And to go in studio and record songs was just really, really fun. And because I was a pop star, they always had, like, the most beautiful hair and makeup on me and glitter. And, like, I just had such a great team.

And we shot the whole thing in, like, 12 days. It was so quick. But it was one of the best experiences. It's amazing. You say, it amazes me when I hear this because I miss that element. You say how much fun you had. I went to the studio and I sang and I never got to do this and it was so fun. And to me, that gives me anxiety thinking about going in and singing and doing, just everything is just like, I got to be great.

I got to, I got to, you know, and you didn't feel like that. You were actually having a good time. Well, I was in choir when I was in school, and I loved choir, but I was never the greatest singer. I was never the one that got the solos, but I was good enough to make, like, the main choir group, if that's what it was called. Right. So I was just, I was okay, but I would get such nerves. Like, I would audibly sound nervous when I would sing if I was trying to sing. on my own or do a solo or something like I didn't know how to control the nerves but to be able to

then take that and go into a studio and work with people and really like keep singing lines until you get it just right and I don't know I love it I think it's so much fun I mean I think there's every actor wants to be a musician every musician wants to be an actor so it kind of fulfilled some of that for me was it have you ever had debilitating anxiety or anything that caused like really hindered you from being at your best or do you remember ever being on set or just the did anxiety ever get in your way the depression or anything getting your way over the years yeah yeah no definitely um i think i think everybody goes through stuff like that i mean anxiety not on on set per se but um it it depends there's

There's different versions of it. I mean, there were things that would happen on set where it was kind of like a throwback to high school where I just didn't feel like I fit in. I mean, I remember being on one set where it was a bunch of girls and all the girls smoked but me. And so they would all go outside and smoke all the time. And I didn't fit in because I didn't go do that. And I didn't want to be out there because I didn't want to breathe in the smoke, but I didn't

know how to bond with them, you know? What was it? What show was it? Or you don't want to say. I'm not going to say which one. All right. I won't say what you don't say it was. Well, you didn't say anything bad about the girls.

You just said you didn't fit in. I didn't fit in. I didn't fit in. But, yeah, so I would get that kind of anxiety. Right. And I did a movie. And Henry Winkler was on there. And I made a comment about not being good enough or not fitting in with them or something.

because there were all these, Tom Arnold was there. There were all these great actors around, and then I don't know how I got there. And I just remember Henry Winkler made me go home. He goes, in the mirror that you look in every day, you're going to write in lipstick. And now I've forgotten exactly what it was, but it was something like, I am good enough,

something to that degree. And so he told me to do that. And so I went home and did that. And I always thought of him. But he is such a mention. You still text me, Michael, how are you? I hope you and your brother are great. How's the dog?

I love you. Shannon, I want you to write in lipstick. I am good enough. And I love you, Shannon. He is the best. And by the way, I've been doing hypnotherapy. And it's amazing how when you rewire your brain and you bring confidence and repetitive confirmation, like, what's the word? Affirmation.

Affirmations, yeah, to your, then you change the way your brain thinks. Because if you're like, oh, I know, I can't do it. Oh, I'm going to have anxiety. I'm going to have. But if you start going, I'm confident, I can do this. It's amazing that the brain could reprogram itself. And it's starting to work for me a little bit. I've noticed it.

You got to just, you know. I've never in the same vein. Have you ever tried microdosing? Everybody's been telling me that Theo Rossi from Sons of Anarchy, many, many people. I'm going to try it. I'm going to do it. Yeah. Yeah. There's a conference. I'm actually talking to the founder tomorrow. It's called microdosing. It's a conference in Florida that I think it's in Miami that's about to take place. And the speakers, if you go, I think it's microdosing.com. If you go look at the speakers they have. I mean, I remember meeting with Kevin Harrington from Shark Tank.

Yeah. Way back in the day when he was on Shark Tank. And now he's a speaker at this conference. And to see. the trajectory of some of these amazing entrepreneurs that are now believing in microdosing, I think it's quite fascinating. Do you microdose? You know, I have, but part of what I want to talk to him about is that the times that I have, more than anything, it makes me very sleepy. And I know it's not supposed to do that. And I want to know if it's my chemical makeup or like what some people have said is,

well, maybe it's what you need. and you're getting from the medicine what you need and you need to rest. So, but I don't know. I mean, I've tried a few different microdosing type things. But I, but then I'll see my husband will do it. And he gets that feeling where your mind is quite expanded and he feels calm. Whereas the feeling I'm getting is just, it literally puts me to sleep. Wow.

Maybe it's too high of a dose. I want the mind expansion. You know, and I want the groundedness and everything you're, you know, you're talking about with the hypnotherapy because even that, like, I would love to do that. I have a great person. She's really great. And I was doubting it. And I was just in and all of a sudden I start listening to these, this 20 minutes at night,

20 minutes in the morning every day and it becomes a habit. And things have changed a little bit for me. I mean, it's still new, but it's working. I have to say it's working. I get frustrated sometimes. I don't want to do it sometimes. But anyway, look, you've had a great career. I mean, you've done so many things.

But your whole, you really transitioned. Because next time I talk to you, we'll get into the poker plane because you're like an unbelievable poker player. You're like the best celebrity poker player there is. And probably one of the best poker players out there. You've won money. What's the most money you've won?

$55,000? $100,000? $100,000. $100,000. $125,000 when I did NBC Heads Up Championship. I got third. $125,000. She's the real deal.

I mean, you are a poker player. I was so bummed, though, because I should have gone to the finals, but I was so upset. How much would you have won if you went to the finals? I don't remember the next level is probably $250 and $500 for first and second. If I got $125, it must have been something like that. Good Lord. But I played, I was playing against Paul Wasika who went on to win it. Right.

And Paul was like, look, it really didn't matter what hand you picked. I was, he was just getting good hands. He said, every hand I got all of a sudden was just so good. It didn't matter. Wow. I was so bummed. But I was really practicing the secret then. This was when the secret was big.

Yeah. And I started really vigorously practicing that and envisioning and manifesting like the outcome and the wins. That works? You really think it worked? If you commit yourself to it and you believe it, it can work. I mean, it's manifestation. The secret just took it from many other people who've taught it way before that, and they kind of did their own thing with it.

But it's manifestation. In fact, when I got scary movie, I didn't know at the time that I was manifesting. But there's a woman in L.A. that I would buy like these little oils and candles and stuff from. And I had mentioned to her that I had had this audition and I really wanted this role. And so she had told me, go home and sit and just imagine what it feels like when you get the call that you get the role. Imagine feeling in your body, the excitement and who you're going to call and what you're going to tell them. And she went through this whole thing.

And I was like, okay, okay, I'm going to do that. And I really did it. And I did it all the time. And from the time I first auditioned to the time I got the role, there was four months in between. Because they had gone across the country looking like for people for these roles. And the whole time I was just sitting there trying to manifest because they wanted to give me a different role. And I was like, no, I want Buffy. I don't want another role.

I want Buffy. But Buffy was supposed to be blonde. And so Keenan didn't really want me because he wanted a blonde. But then the lead role was supposed to be a brunette. So he just swapped us around in the end. But that was the first time I had worked on manifestation, but I didn't know it was called that. I didn't know what I was doing. Ryan, we might have to try some manifestation, my brother, some affirmations and some manifestations.

Look, we're running out of time here, but we can go a little bit over. Let's get into the nonprofit. Let's get into the Shannon Elizabeth Foundation, Muno the Rhino. First of all, when did it occur to you that this is what I need to do? Like, when did you're like, I know what I want to do and I want to move to Africa and I want to do that. I mean, whatever it is, when did that happen?

And, and, you know. So when I did American Pie, it was the first time I was in a position to give back. And long story short, I just realized I wanted to start my own animal. rescue. So I started a dog and cat rescue called Animal Avengers, ran it that way for over 10 years, and then knew I wanted to help more animals on a bigger scale and went on this long quest to figure out what that was. I didn't know how to revamp the charity, but I wanted to do something else with it. And through my own process of figuring myself out, I had sold my house in L.A. I was looking for another place and then just realized I didn't want to be in L.A.

anymore. Went to New York. And when I was in New York, I started somehow paying a lot of attention to conservation organizations. And there was an ivory and rhino horn crush in Times Square that I got invited to. And I met a bunch of conservationists there and started following everyone online. And there was one video that I came across like literally. I was getting ready to go to dinner. I was doing my makeup and something said, check Instagram. And I didn't know what I was checking for, but I was scrolling on Instagram. And I came across this video of an elephant that had been poached.

And the ranger was filming as he was walking and saying, this poor baby's been out here all night's suffering. And as you see, you saw her trunk off to one side and then you saw her face and then she moved. and that hit me like a ton of bricks, the fact that she was still alive and this had happened to her. And I never, till that moment, realized that these animals were getting their ivory and their horns taken off while they were alive and they were feeling every cut. And that's what changed it for me. And that was 2014 going into 2050. I just felt that, didn't you?

Jesus, just you explaining that to me. I just, like, felt it. It changed me. The whole night I was thinking about it, I was trying not to cry at dinner. I couldn't get it out of my mind. And I said, that's what I want to do with the charity. The fact that these animals, these big majestic animals, like elephants, could go extinct in our lifetime.

And we're here doing nothing. Like, it doesn't make sense. Like, we all got to go see an elephant or a rhino at some point. maybe when we were younger or anywhere, you know that they're on the planet with you, but then to leave the planet one day and they're not there anymore, that didn't compute with me. So I started going to South Africa to learn and to understand what the issue was and try to find ways I could help and make a difference. And in the process, just decided I was going to move here and spend more time here. And I ended up getting married.

And we revamped the charity to be the Shan Elizabeth Foundation for now. It'll change eventually soon, hopefully. But now we have a blind black rhino that we take care of. We just built a sanctuary for him. Manu? Huh? Munu. Munu.

Munu. Yeah. And we're going to bring some females over so he can breed. He's already doing this thing where I've realized that he's checking for. female pheromones to see if they're around. So I know he's ready for it. And we're filming it all to be a docu-series. So at this point, we just, we need more funding. We need to up the security to bring the females over. We have more parts of the sanctuary we need to do. And we're talking to different broadcast partners for the, for the docu-series. So it's the first time I'm really

bringing my two worlds together and I'm I'm directing it but I'm going to co-direct it. I'm actually looking for the right co-director to do the rest of it with me. I have some ideas. I think that's unbelievable. I commend you. I'm going to donate right after we get off again. So where can we go to donate? I'm serious. Guys, this is, this is unbelievable. If you go to Shannonelisabeth.org slash Munu M-A-N-U M-A-N-U

M-U M-U-N-U Yes, M-U-N-U M-U. There you'll see a video that we've done that's like a five-minute sizzle kind of trailer of the show and the conservation work

that we're doing. We figured if we're doing the work anyway, we might as well film it and tell the story to the world because most rhino stories are about death and they're gruesome and people don't want to see another picture of an animal with their face cut off. But this is a story of love and hope and courage and trust because he's trusting us because he can't see.

And we, you know, we were able to move him to this place and we've built something that we know he's kind of familiar with, but it's got a lot more space for him, a lot of trees to browse, and he trusts us to lead him through it. And yeah, we wanted to tell like a really good story that that could inspire people. And so that's, that's what we're, the mission we're on right now. Do you think he knows you, your touch and your voice? He knows my voice. Yeah. He knows my voice. You can see how he reacts to his different caretakers and people that are around him for a long time. And when he first came into the outdoor area, for the first time in the new sanctuary, he was walking around.

He walked right in front of me and started vocalizing, which is just like an amazing thing. If you've never heard a rhino vocalize, it's just, it melts your heart. That's beautiful. Well, good for you. Good for the organization. That's a big project right now. I love that. All right, this is really quick.

This is shit talking with Shannon Elizabeth. These are my top tier patrons. They make the show possible. All my patrons. do without them i don't know what i would do uh go to patreon dot com slash inside of you uh once you join i will send you a message back uh these are rapid fiery answer quickly ready little lisa little lisa do you have any funny behind the scenes moments you could please share when you were filming j and silent bob strike back or j and silent bob reboot thank you yeah i'm not good at quick fire

there aren't a lot of like like funny moments like that that i can think of i mean obviously jason Muse is always is always joking around and having fun, but I can't think of any one thing. I'm sorry. All right. That's all right. Leanne, very impressed with the work your foundation does on behalf of wildlife conservation. What was the spark that motivated you? We just heard that.

We just heard the spark. We just heard the spark. Leanne, thank you. Brett G, if you can go back in time, is there anything you would change or do differently in your acting career? I would have asked for more money for American Pie, too. Yeah, I mean, there are things. I'm not going to go into specifics, but I'll say that when you're a woman that stands up for herself

when asked to do things you don't want to do, that can be perceived wrong. And there's a process of doing it that is better than doing it yourself. Like, I would stand up for myself too much versus letting my manager do that. So, yeah, I probably would go back and like let my team fight for me more. rather than me saying, I'm not going to do that. Let them look like the assholes. Yeah. Let them.

Okay. Kelly asks, who'd you get closest with an American pie? And are you close with anybody from the cast still? I got closest. At the time, I got closest with Mina. Mina would always do girls' nights and girls' lunches and stuff. So I was hanging out with her the most. And I do still see her and Tara,

probably the most. Oh, and Thomasian Nicholas, because we all do autographs signings. We have the same management. So we'll go do autograph signings in different areas, sometimes in different countries. So it's a lot of fun to travel and do that. That's awesome. Jennifer Ann, seeing you in 13 Ghosts. What was it like to work with Matthew Lillard and Tony Shaloo? Tony Shaloo. Tony Shaloo is like my hero. He is unbelievable. And, you know, he played my dad. We're both Lebanese, which I loved, and he really treated me like an equal that I didn't feel like I deserved that. But, like, I remember we would fly back and forth to Vancouver, and we would talk about the storyline and things we wanted to pitch to the director that might change things slightly. And so he would sit there next to me on the plane and be like, okay, what about this and what about that?

Okay, I'm going to take it to him and see what he says. to me, just to be able to do that was amazing. I loved him so much. That's awesome. And Matthew's just such a funny, fun, nice guy. I had actually worked with Matthew before on a film called Dish Dogs with he and Sean Aston. That was actually one of my first films.

They're both menches. I love both of those guys. Sean Ashton is probably the nicest guy there is next to Henry Winkler. Niceest guy in the world. Good God. Billy asked last question. And besides acting, what are some things you would like to work on besides the Shannon Elizabeth Foundation and acting? Is there anything else?

Do you want to play some more tennis with me, maybe? I play tennis. Now, I really want to work on directing and producing. I'm being more behind the camera. I love it. To be able to shape the stories in that way, it's really the direction I want to be going more than being in front of the camera. So as much as possible, I'm jumping behind. I think it's awesome.

what's your Instagram so people can follow you and they can go donate what is your Instagram is at Shannon Elizabeth at Shannon Elizabeth that's it that's it and can you do me a favor and tell Simon I'm thinking about him and I hope his forearm's okay I will I will he told me to tell you hi he didn't know if you'd remember I do remember him I do remember him he remembers you as such a great guy well well his memory is a little bit off but no not this has been a treat I know it's late for you it's a little later than we normally do this, but I appreciate you doing this. I've always wanted to talk to you, and I know you live out there, but continue the great work. It's just really stunning. You're a

beautiful person inside and out, and the world needs more of you. And yeah, thank you. I really appreciate you. And I'll let you know when this comes out. And I love you. I love you, too. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me on and giving me the platform to talk about things that I love like Moonoo. We all love Munu. Go donate. We all love me. All right. I'll see you later. All right. Thank you. Bye.

Thank you for listening to Shannon Elizabeth. I don't get to see her much anymore because she obviously she lives far away. But she does make an impact. I look up to people like that. Someone who really takes the time because time is valuable. It's invaluable.

But to actually take time from not doing anything and relaxing to devoting most of your time, saving the world, saving animals, saving exotic animals, saving human beings. I mean, just to know and decide that that is your thing that you're going to devote your time to. That's your purpose. Yeah. What a great thing it would be to know your purpose. To really know this is why I'm here. Yeah. Because, you know, a lot of times you get to, is my purpose this? Is it, should I be? And you're just lost.

And I think a lot of people at, you know, my age 50, midlife, it's like, what's my purpose? But when you know it, like my friend Shira for the animal rescue mission, arm, animal rescue mission. And I'm on the board, of course. I don't know why. Sometimes I go blank. But like, that's her mission. Whether she likes it or not, she's always, she gravitates towards saving animals. That's what she does.

And so I'm just like, oh, you know, I still want to act and I still want to. And I go, whatever you do, your purpose is that, though. You can act because you love it. You're good at it, whatever. But your purpose, it's nice to know your purpose. And that's the message for today. Thank you for listening. I love you.

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