Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Shaun of the Dead’s NICK FROST: Sidekick Evolution

Episode Date: November 30, 2021

Nick Frost (Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz) joins me this week for a discussion on dealing with severe trauma and depression and how periods of loss and tribulation with his family has shaped his life. N...ick opens up a ton this episode on his family hardships surrounding alcoholism and what it was like watching both parents step in to care for one another in their time of need. We talk about his journey in acting, how he met Simon Pegg, and how his career took off with hits like Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:03 You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Hi, guys. How are you? Are you enjoying your week? I know you're driving. Hopefully you're smiling. Come on. Smile.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Let me just feel it. Are you smiling now? Let's do it. Let's just try to have a good day. Let's have a freaking good day. Thanks for making me part of your day. Ryan Tejas is here with me. I am here with you today.
Starting point is 00:01:26 and I'm not even in spirit what not even in spirit no you're here in person I'm here and that's good yeah it's nice um I like having you uh you have a good week yeah yeah yeah I mean thing yeah yeah you have a good Thanksgiving it's great it was great you love the family loved it I love your family I don't know them but I love them I love them yes I love them too did you have a nice Thanksgiving I did it was nice to have friends over and uh you know just we all sit around and we all say what we're for and I think it's important you know I used to think hokey campy cheesy you know and then when you sit around and you say hey I'm thankful for you I'm thankful for my patrons I'm thankful for to have a job I'm thankful for having Ryan here I'm thankful for it makes it does something to the
Starting point is 00:02:11 brain it's science people have talked about this doctors and everything but there's something about being grateful and saying your your gratitudes that help we've talked about this in the podcast before but I'm grateful for all you guys um so hopefully had a great Thanksgiving we're gearing up for Christmas, the Hanukkah season. And I like it. I like the weather. I like a little chilly outside, don't you? Yeah, it's nice. It is. I like to go shopping.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Yeah. I like I like sporting a little hoodie. Yeah, a little flannel. Just like a little cozy. That's right. That's what I like to do. Thank you for listening to this podcast. Thank you for supporting it. Ryan, tell them how they could follow us.
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Starting point is 00:03:12 I really do believe that. So hopefully you'll join me. And thanks to all the patrons who give back to the podcast, you can go to patreon.com slash inside of you. And you could give to the podcast more and keep this thing running. thanks cumulus happy holidays thanks ryan thanks bryce thanks jason my editor um today we have a great guest nick frost i i am a big fan of nick frost um and you know his his his partner in crime simon peg they've done a lot of movies together sean of the dead and uh the list goes on but um you know he's he really has a great story he has a book that's out and um he speaks from the heart it's not like
Starting point is 00:03:51 some actor just telling you like here's my story this is a guy who you know had some tough times and he opens up about it he opens up about his sister dying and uh nick i appreciate you man i appreciate you opening up and being so damn humble and sweet and i think a lot of people are going to get a lot from this podcast today so without further ado let's get inside of the great nick frost it's my point of you you're listening to inside of you with my Rosenbaum Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum Was not recorded in front of a live studio audience
Starting point is 00:04:33 What is it? That's, uh, Raiders of the Lost Dark, that is. That's indie. That's indie. Gold Idol, lovely. Yeah, isn't that nice? Do you have any toys at your house, Nick? Do you have any toys?
Starting point is 00:04:43 No, you know what? I don't have anything at all. Like, nothing from any job I've ever done. Like, when you go to Simon's house, it's like a museum of peg. But, like, I literally have got nothing of any. Oh, I found, like, an old poster that, tin-tin poster that Stephen Spielberg signed the other day. I was like, oh, maybe I'll keep that. Oh, you had Steven Spielberg sign your Tintin poster.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Yes, it was one of the big ones you get at the premieres when you walk in. Someone got that and someone signed it all. And it was in an office that I've forgotten about. And they said, oh, do you still want to keep this? I was like, yeah. So that's the only thing you have, all the movies you've done, all the big actors you've worked with, you don't keep anything. You don't really care about that stuff. No, I never, no, I don't not care, but, you know, I have to, I have to weigh up.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Is it, is it just going to be stuck in a fucking cupboard for a year? And if it is, then I probably don't need it. I've got, I'll tell you what I have got. when I was like 16 and like I had no money and I used to go around what do they call them in the States like we call them charity shops but you call them oh thrift stores thrift stores so I used to go walking around thrift stores with the aim of finding like a first edition novel and then being able to sell it and like eating and one day I found the first edition novelization of close encounters of the third kind so Spielberg wrote it as a novel
Starting point is 00:06:29 why I didn't know that oh my god it's amazing the dust jackets pristine and then when I got to do tinting with him I brought that with me to Los Angeles and I got him to sign it and he was like oh my God this is amazing I've never seen you think he saw two of them
Starting point is 00:06:47 Wow. Did you get Starstruck? Have you read that book? I haven't read it, but I've seen close encounters of the third kind. Okay, so you know the big organ they play at the end to communicate? So in the book, it explains that the only place in the world that the Secret Service could get a synthesizer advanced enough was off of Stevie Wonder. there's like a whole fucking scene where the FBI turned up at Stevie Wonder's house like in the book no come on honest to God they go to Stevie Wonder's house
Starting point is 00:07:27 yeah and they like commission like they they kind of they say listen we can't tell you what it's for but we need one of your synthesizers does it take you out of the book does it kind of like is it kind of goofy or it works it made it better I wish Stevie Wonder had been in the film now that's one of your favorite films right close encounters yeah I fucking I love it I love it I mean
Starting point is 00:07:50 I could I watch bits of it now I find the end there's like a bit at the end before the very end that kind of lags when they're running up devil's tower and stuff and you know they're spraying that
Starting point is 00:08:04 sleeping gas on the birds or whatever it is that that kind of lags a bit for me now but I remember like my auntie Melanie who's a vampire. Wait, wait, wait, she's a vampire. What do you mean she's a vampire? Well, she's never aged.
Starting point is 00:08:19 It's really weird, and she never comes out in the day. Right. She just gets up at like six in the evening and then sits up all night, drinking tea and smoking, and then is in bed all day. She's probably in the 70s, but she looks like Kate Bush. Kate Bush. But she lives in a place in Wales that used to have an American air base.
Starting point is 00:08:42 and so she used to date all the American service guys and she was dating this guy and he got us onto the base what are those things called him base they're called PXs or like they're like shops that you can buy American food like in Wales so that was the first time I ever ate at a pizza
Starting point is 00:09:04 like he got us onto the base and we ate pizza how old were you and then I like 10, 11 right right and then one afternoon we were at my auntie's house and he came around with like a massive videotape and it was close encounters and so he like put it on and we all sat and watched closing counters on VHS so it's kind of a special memory it's a special movie
Starting point is 00:09:31 because that's like one of the first movies you probably saw we had pizza too you know you know what films like in television it has that kind of amazing I find it with old photographs too, you know, that's how we can time travel as humans, you know, because it, we can't physically travel, but you can, I can feel how I fucking felt when I was 10, you know, it's amazing. Yeah. Me and Simon, when we did Paul, we hired a massive RV and we drove the whole route that
Starting point is 00:09:59 the guys drive in the film. Right. And it took us like eight, nine days, you know, we drove from L.A. to Vegas and then to area 51 and out through Utah and it was an amazing journey but the whole point was we got to Devil's Tower and then we walked around the tower with the soundtrack on our iPods and so it took us like seven days to get there
Starting point is 00:10:27 and like an hour before we arrived in Devil's Tower he and I ended up having like a big argument and then we ended up walking around Devil's Tower on our own all that fucking way for that I wonder what the argument was about. That's what interests me. Do you remember? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:10:45 It was just shit. I mean, we haven't, what do we argue? I remember us. We probably had two really big arguments. I remember we, because we shared a bed for like ages for like a year. You shared a flat together. You slept in the same bed, you and Simon's bed. Yes, yeah, we did.
Starting point is 00:11:05 And one night we were chatting, you know, before we fell asleep. And I was kind of crawl, I crawled down the bed on all fours. And he thought it would be funny to kick me off the bed. And it just went really bad, be wrong. And we just had a massive argument. And then we kind of went, we went to bed back to back and just fell asleep like that. Oh, my God. Just pouted.
Starting point is 00:11:32 We've been looking at one another. Who usually starts it? Who usually provokes the other the most? well we're different I don't know I'm different now being a 50 year old man I've had to let a lot of those resentments go you know
Starting point is 00:11:46 right but when we were much younger it was you know I guess I don't know Simon's very clever he's very good at argue he's not always right but he's good at arguing do you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:12:01 right so it can be quite quite frustrating arguing with Simon, because it's like, I'm not going to fucking win this, so I might as well just shut the fuck up. You know, the late Carrie Fisher, I was friends with her name drop, but she used to be married to Paul Simon, and she said they would get in these vicious arguments together. And he would say some of the most brilliant, fucked up, distorted, clever things during their
Starting point is 00:12:32 argument, that she would say, I'll be right back and go in the other room and write them down because she couldn't believe what he was saying so she would write those clever yeah i thought that was pretty amazing so it's one of those things where he's just really clever and you're like fuck i can't win with this fuck you yeah exactly you know you and i met in a at a convention in australia yeah right do you do you go to a lot of the conventions and how do you like them um well i haven't been i mean because of covid that's kind of shut that part down for the time being I really
Starting point is 00:13:09 I've got to say I mean in theory I should fucking hate going to conventions and meeting people and smiling and well why is that why is that are you an introvert you feel? I am yeah I'm I've got
Starting point is 00:13:24 ADHD so I find it difficult to go out to leave the fucking house sometimes you know kind of lots of weird anxieties and you know but but i i really like it i really like doing it you know it doesn't it never really feels like work i mean i know you get tired and you get paid for it and stuff like that and you can never i mean as you know i mean you you're really professional at these things
Starting point is 00:13:53 you're always lovely to everyone you know and that's i think that's the key to make everyone feel like they are special for that minute two minutes that right also i'm really aware that they potentially pay a load of money just to come and see you and to have a photograph and you know I'm always aware that that's a that's a factor you know right that some people turn up they want fucking 10 pictures and loads of things signed and a cricket bat and it's like dude it's like 400 bucks poor you do you do that thing where you kind of give go on at this one have that one you know I'm terrible like that oh yeah if someone comes in and goes oh I don't have any money I'm like just pick something just fucking grabs yeah now everybody that's listening is
Starting point is 00:14:38 going to go I don't have any money I and yeah that's but there's a lot I mean you know it's it's kind of amazing that in terms of my fan base wherever I've gone in the world to do a comic on the kind of people are always the same like I mean they're all exactly the same person and I kind of like that continuity. There's something like watching Close Encounters. I know how it works. Right, right. It's sort of like the same fans, like, you know, you have that fan base.
Starting point is 00:15:10 People, Sean of the Dead, hot fuzz, the world's end, Paul, that kind of, that kind of feel to it. Right. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, the genre geek. Yeah. You know, I mean, I think they get a sense from the stuff we do. And it's, I mean, it's correct in a certain aspect. But we, I mean, that was us.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I mean, we are fans of the genre and, you know, I love close encounters and science fiction and Star Wars and Star Dragon. You know, I like it all. So it's, I get it. I understand, you know. Inside of you is brought to you by Rocket Money. I'm going to speak to you about something that's going to help you save money, period. It's Rocket Money.
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Starting point is 00:21:34 Yeah, look, I mean, I think it's only really in the last kind of three. Look, I mean, I think I, sorry, I'm trying to think of a nice, you know, look, I think it's from the age of like, 16, I just suffered a lot of trauma until I was 40, you know, literally, you know, violence and death and people dying and fucking cancer and alcoholism and addiction. And just, just, and I got very good at just laughing and smiling and let's do another
Starting point is 00:22:23 joke yeah um you know let's let's just let's keep going let's just it'll be fine you know and you kind of get you kind of get good at pushing it down and ignoring it you know um not realizing that it's it doesn't for me it didn't go away you know it just built up and built up and built up and then you know it got to a point a few years ago it's like i i don't think i can I don't think I can live like this anymore. As a human, it just felt like I'd been through so much that I did, there was no, you know, I just felt there wasn't, a human shouldn't suffer that much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:09 So I decided to do something about it, you know, and that, that was, I never realized I had ADHD until three years ago, you know, they needed it. And, you know, getting that diagnosed, I was like, okay, that makes a lot of sense in terms of the way I react to noises and pressure and, you know, I'm not good at, I'm not good with people or, you know, I work well under pressure, I need lists, I need a, you know, I can't deviate from a plan, I, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:37 I try to control everything and, you know, even now, like today's, I'll get up at fucking 3am and make a cake and then I'll drink 10 coffees and go and paint for an hour. And then the kids get, you know, it's like, I do feel superhuman. with it but there's there comes a very uh very dark side to that too you know yeah what do you what do you do with that because i i i deal with that too where i'm just overwhelmed i can't you know when
Starting point is 00:24:04 you say you have a plan you have to stick to that plan when somebody goes well what if we do this i'm like that gives me anxiety wait a minute you're talking about changing the plan up so how do you deal with that it's like you know i take you know i take something but uh is it something that you know you have to work on or be conscious of and then uh yeah yeah i mean look this is part of my issue in terms of, you know, there's an element there of control that I need to feel safe, you know. But part of, part of me not being so sad and self-destructive and is about letting go and trust in that, all right, you know, let's see, I haven't got the answer, so let's just see how it plays out
Starting point is 00:24:51 because it affects everyone around me you know it's also I'm also aware to get into that weird loop I'm aware that it's really unattractive and ugly to be fucking sad all the time and to be depressed and to want to control things and want to make people do what I want to do
Starting point is 00:25:07 and oh don't do it like this you'll be better you'll be happier if you do this if you listen to what I say you'll be happy and then I'll be happy you know it's tiring for people to my partner for my lady, it's, it costs me a marriage, you know, and it's, I, I become very aware that it's,
Starting point is 00:25:28 it's really fucking ugly and it's really hard to live with. And then that, of course, triggers off, why are you with me? Why are you, you know, and that's when, you know, as, as a, you know, someone who has depression and other bits and pieces going on upstairs, it's, it's, you then start to trigger yourself. And that's when, you know, you can really, fuck yourself up.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Yeah. And you don't drink anymore, right? I don't know. I don't do anything. I mean, I haven't drunk for eight for ages, really. I just, you know what? I mean, literally every big fight or argument I've ever had with a partner, our girlfriend, has been because we've been pissed, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:10 And it just got to a point. It's like, I just don't need it. You know, my mom and sister both died of alcoholism. So I'm aware that it's. It's in my family, you know. So it was like, fuck that, I don't need it, you know. Yeah, you know. Because it's that thing is, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:26 and I can recognise that thing in myself where because of, I don't mean to sound like to dick, but because obviously I've achieved a certain level of success on the TV, you're kind of well-known, I'm kind of well-known over here. So I tend to not drink in the evenings. So I'd go and be in the pub at one in the afternoon. you know, and then I'd sit there until six or seven, and then when people started to come in, then I'd leave.
Starting point is 00:26:54 But then you'd be leaving with eight cans of Budweiser and a bottle of wine, and, you know, you'd finish that, and you'd think, oh, what have I got in that cupboard? You know what I mean? It just was never enough. Right. And I think at that point, you start to think, okay, I see. I see what's happening here.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Yeah, I mean, look, most people write a book, a memoir when they're like Betty Davis, when they're in their 70s. So they're 80s, right? But I was like, this guy must have lived a fucking life. If he's writing a book, you have the memoir that came out a couple years ago. Truths, have truths and little white lies. And you get into it all. But what prompted that?
Starting point is 00:27:31 Did you feel like, fuck, I've lived. I've got a lot to tell. Maybe I could help someone. What was the reason behind it? Yeah, I mean, I just got approached by the publishers say, did you want to do one? And I wasn't, I never really thought about it. But, you know, I think I lost my parents, like, I lost my mum when I was like 35
Starting point is 00:27:57 and I lost my dad like 12 years ago, like seven years after my mum. And I was really aware that there were portions of my life that I had lost forever now because I could never ask them. They were gone and I think there was a regret that there were things that I didn't. ask as a kid because you don't you just don't ask your parents Yeah what is that you never
Starting point is 00:28:23 I don't feel comfortable Yeah What are you right? What you know I just never did it And then there were things And now I mean I'm not
Starting point is 00:28:31 I don't really I'm not bothered anymore by it But I was like Okay so maybe If I could write down stuff And stuff that my kids could read when they're like Older and they're like
Starting point is 00:28:42 Oh can I get a sense Of who dad was Not just an idiot Who did films that We were too young to watch, you know. Right, right. But it was also quite a way.
Starting point is 00:28:51 What I kind of liked about, about Hannah, who published the book, is she didn't want it to be celebrity. I just didn't want it to be a kind of, you know, I kind of hate that thing. Well, I'm in a very, I'm always aware that the job we do puts us in a very kind of, a bracket where I hate seeing celebrities moaning about,
Starting point is 00:29:16 you know, crocodile shoes that are too, title, they're fucking jet lagged they just got off a private plane you know, I just think who fucking who. Yeah. So you wanted to do that, you know. And so I just wrote up until I was 30 so I didn't even do any of
Starting point is 00:29:34 the getting on TV or doing Sean on the Dead, you know. And I just wanted to you know, I thought if, I do get a lot of DMs from people to say, hey, I read your book, and it help you know because it talks about depression it talks about grief and loss
Starting point is 00:29:53 and you know I just think Western culture so shit at dealing with death still like it's a big fucking surprise and you know I mean my kids I've got a newborn and a three year old and a 10 year old and I will be
Starting point is 00:30:11 I've heard of something like ages years ago that's kind of stuck with me like some guy some like war chief from the you know some amazing tribe said that like the point of being a father is to prepare your children for the fact that one day you're going to die and I was like oh shit I kind of get that you know right and so there's I mean it's difficult to do now in our kind of society but you know I talk about death a lot with my son not in a weird kind of creepy frightening way but just like yeah this is how it is this is part of it you know right so they're very aware
Starting point is 00:30:54 the kids i mean you you talk to them are you do you feel like you're pretty open like was your father when you were growing up was your father open because my father wasn't open at all i didn't know anything about him i still don't know anything about him and so sometimes you know that's just that old school traditional sort of like you don't need to know about me you don't need to be my friend you know i'm going to put a roof over your head and that's fucking it i mean you know how was your father. My, look, well, my old man was, you know, he was, he was, he was an amazing man, you know, he, he, he I think he had a lot of trouble with, he was very funny, man, he was a great cook, um, him
Starting point is 00:31:35 and my mom were quite romantic and affectionate to one another. Wow. Um, I'd watch them dance sometimes in the kitchen, which was amazing. and um but but you know he had a my mom had a terrible drink problem so i could see him start to have to cope with that too and i thought that that that that that that was quite something you know and then my dad he he was a he was a really really clever man he kind of self-taught himself to be like uh he was an amazing artist and stuff and he started working at a company where he upholstered office furniture.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Right. And he worked his way all the way to the top to become general manager after 20 years. Just an incredible man, you know. But he was working with a guy who was the boss of the company who fucking drove a Ferrari and had a massive house. And, you know, I think my dad was looking at him and thinking, why haven't I got this?
Starting point is 00:32:44 You know, we were doing pretty good, but it wasn't this guy, you know. This guy owned the company. So everything that we sold, he sold was going to him, essentially. And I think he, I was like 14, 15, 16 at this point. And he decided that he would go on his own. Which now as a 50-year-old, I look back and I think, first of all, it was fucking brave. And B, you're an idiot. Because he had no capital, you know, he had to put our house up against the shit he bought to make chairs, you know.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Right. And so one thing led to another, and that company collapsed. And with the collapse of that company, excuse me, it meant that people from a bank came and they took our car and they moved us outside of our house. How old are you? How old are you at this point? I was 15. my God and they changed the locks
Starting point is 00:33:45 on the house and that was it we had nothing and he he changed you know he had he had
Starting point is 00:33:56 I mean I literally then it was I didn't see him smile for fucking 10 years I'd never see my old man cry and then that's all I saw him do for I mean for months
Starting point is 00:34:09 literally for months you know I think there was a big thing with him and his generation where he could not do what was imperative for a man to do and that was to look after your family to support and provide you know and he never got over that and he never he was never the same again you know oh that's got to be devastating you know the council rehoused you know the council rehouses and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:34:33 but it was just he it broke him you know it really broke him but you know 10 years after 20 years after that you know when he was my mum saw him through that period of years, ten years, literally when he couldn't get fucking dressed and he walked the dog for eight hours a day collecting golf balls and selling them
Starting point is 00:34:57 to a driving range, you know, that was his job. That's what he did. And my mom saw him through that, you know. But at the same time, wasn't she drinking at the same time, though? Yeah, God, yeah, but, you know, she was a powerful working class Welsh fucking firebrand
Starting point is 00:35:15 Functional alcoholic Like a functional alcoholic She could function She could get shit done Yeah I mean You didn't talk about her drinking You didn't mention it You know
Starting point is 00:35:25 That's what we do You know This is how it is on a sudden You know Right But then it got to a point When my mom was in a 50 probably
Starting point is 00:35:36 When she suddenly became A very old woman You know She looked like a fucking eight-year-old. And then he got her through the next 10 years, you know. They then flipped their jobs. Right. And I, you know, I remember, I think I remember fucking hating my dad for years and my mom, you know.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Because I was saying to him, you know, what are you, why don't you get up? Why are you crying? You know, I was really mad at that, you know. Yeah. I was really sad and mad at it. you know, and then to see him flip and then he, you know, he was like a, he was amazing.
Starting point is 00:36:17 It was an amazing thing to see, you know, like essentially, I don't know, just watch, it must be hard to watch your, the love of your life, kill herself over 10 years, 20, 30 years and just sit and facilitate it and, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:38 You know what's funny is, I don't know, this is not funny, But, you know, I would have, I would have loved to have seen my father cry once to show some emotion, to show some vulnerability as a child. It was just always, you get caught drinking, you're going to a halfway house. You do this. You're out of the house. This is the way it is. I never drank.
Starting point is 00:36:58 I never did anything. And all of a sudden, it wasn't until my 20s when I went to my dad's old dentist. And I was like, God, did my dad ever drink? Did he ever? Your dad was fucking doing Coke. he was fucking trashed he was wiggling his dick out at everybody he was you know all this shit
Starting point is 00:37:17 that I found out about my dad later I'm like why did you lie to me why are you like this superhero you know and he you know I don't I forgive him but you know at the same time I would have loved to have seen some vulnerability I would have loved to have seen some more nurturing caring
Starting point is 00:37:33 loving yeah and you you got to see probably too much of that in the other direction yeah I mean look the flip side was once my mum passed away he I felt like he became three
Starting point is 00:37:48 I mean obviously he was very sad and it was awful but he he gained a certain level of freedom you know and my dad only lived for another eight years after my mum died he died really early too but but in that
Starting point is 00:38:06 in those eight years you know he he fell in love he found a new lady who was amazing, an amazing woman. And, you know, he got his shit back. He was an art. He was an amazing artist, amazing watercolorist. And he got it.
Starting point is 00:38:22 He started. He did it again. I hadn't seen him pick up a paintbrush for 25 years. And he started again. And I could see him, you know, I think that's probably why when my old man died. It was, that was the fucking last thing for me in terms of the straw that broke the camel's mind.
Starting point is 00:38:37 You know, it was like, okay, I just got my fucking best friend back and I've had him for five, six years and now he's got fucking lung cancer. It's like, dude, you know. Yeah. It was too much. Do you think a lot of the art stuff that you do now,
Starting point is 00:38:51 I look on Instagram and the beautiful art that you do and the cooking, it's all from the folks, right? You get that from your mom and dad? Yeah. I mean, yeah. It's just, I think it's a real, I don't know, you see a lot of people in our job who are fucking terribly,
Starting point is 00:39:09 who are terrible showoffs you know what I mean and I'm not I'm like oh my God sit down and shut up or there's a particular I can't say but there's a particular YouTube clip of this actor and he's on like a talk show
Starting point is 00:39:24 and all of a sudden he's like doing a selection of dances and impressions and I'm like oh my God like I can't not watch it but at the same time I just hate it so much it's like you desperate you're desperate for coverage but so I've never felt that you know
Starting point is 00:39:39 right but in the kitchen I can I can fucking like we had friends around today and I just I like I made an amazing like plum and almond tart and it's it's fucking great it's like that's my chance to show off slightly right so you love you love cooking you love art you love
Starting point is 00:39:57 you're a home body you like to be at home yeah I do yeah because I think it's a skill to cook now I mean yeah you know not I mean not that many cook obviously lots of people cook but it's not it's not I mean, it's not massive that people can sit and cook, but, you know, dinner every night of the week or, you know, so I think I'm kind of proud that there's a, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:22 my 10-year-old does stuff in the kitchen too. It's like, I think that's a real good skill to have, you know. Reading, playing, learning. Stellist lenses do more than just correct your child's vision. They slow down the progression of myopia. so your child can continue to discover all the world has to offer through their own eyes. Light the path to a brighter future with stellar lenses for myopia control. Learn more at slyor.com
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Starting point is 00:41:34 of bad luck around you. There was a lot of shit that happened. So it was one of those things where you loved your mom you loved your dad he worked hard they went through some ruts and i know you know i lost my sister uh two years ago she she passed away she was 14 and she was sick her whole life but i know that you lost your sister when you were 10 years old and she was she was 18 and that had to be just i mean to tear a family apart that's that how did you how did that happen i mean she had an asthma attack yeah she did she was um she was an amazing singer and songwriter and she was just the about, because she was from my dad's first marriage. So when my dad and her mom got divorced, they went and lived in New Zealand. And so she was kind of about to break over there, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:22 And she did a gig one night and she came back and she just was on her own and started to have a massive asthma attack and just never couldn't, you know, couldn't alert people and passed away, you know, it was just it's one of those things that I can't sit in a room now without the television on. It doesn't have to have any sound on,
Starting point is 00:42:50 but the TV has to be on. And that, I think that is a remnant of, of, we're at my Auntie Marion's house staying there when we found out, but having to come down and the TV was off you know my mum and dad
Starting point is 00:43:07 was just sat just silently you know it was like oh fuck what is it as a 10 year old I'm like what is this what's happening here you know Jesus and so you know
Starting point is 00:43:18 it's a really odd thing because after that you know my my brother Mark died when I was 30 and then two years later my sister Debbie died
Starting point is 00:43:31 and then my mum died two years after that and then my dad died and then another brother, Ian, all in the space of 10 years essentially and it's, you know, I kind of got really good at the fucking admin of it the admin of grief, do you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Okay, well I feel like this and we'll do this and let's book a car for these people and is there a less bonus florist but i never necessarily got to deal with the other bits and pieces of that you know yeah you were sort of like almost facilitating like okay this is what we got to do someone's got to step up i'm going to get this i'm going to go to the florist i'm going to go this and i'm going to keep everything together here we go but inside you're ripped apart yeah of course yeah keep just keep going forward That was my thing for so many years.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Just keep going. Yeah, well, I mean, you have to. You have to keep going forward. I mean, you stop. You're kind of fucked, aren't you? Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, yes. In the end, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:45 But that was, it just fucking crippled me mentally in the end. It was like, it was just too much. Also, because you kind of, you get a certain level of success with films you do. And, you know, you go to work and, you know, people at work always see the best possible. Nick Frost, you know what I mean? Yeah. Because I fucking love it. I love being on a set and I love the focus pullers and I love the costume guys
Starting point is 00:45:10 and getting my hair cut and I love it all, you know. I'm there for literally every lens change. I love watching and do it. You know, I love them marking up there. Sure. You know, so to then, and to be fairly, and to be successful in doing that job, you know. Yeah. to then have to come home or you know you've having a people have an assumption that you're a
Starting point is 00:45:38 fucking laughing billionaire you know yeah it's just not the case it's like yeah you know you come home and your your life is fucked i always say i was sort of like you know it's like the clown you you're up there you're with a big smile on your face on set and everyone's oh it's nick oh it's rozenbaum oh there's just fucking happy look at them they're still funny they're doing stand-up god these guys are still funny and you go home you go i hate myself yeah I fucking hate my life. What is that? I mean, I went through years and years of that
Starting point is 00:46:06 where I just was like, I give so much to everybody. But when I got home, I was all alone. I always felt like alone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I think, yeah. That's, I think that's, it's a really, it's really, it's really fucking crippling. It's really spirit crushing to give so much, you know. And I think that's also part of,
Starting point is 00:46:29 the diagnosis that we have as people with ADHD, you know, I think I'm a people pleaser, you know. Oh, yeah. I never realized that the simplest thing was, all I needed to do was just to be happy myself. And that would make my kids happy, and that would make my wife happy.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Yeah. I never imagined that that's how simple it was. I just, even as a fucking 48-year-old man, you know what I mean? just literally smashing doors down to make people happy. And it never did because they could see inside that I was just fucking lonely and sad. What is it that fixes us? I mean, people like us out there that you learn to love yourself. You learn to just say, all right, this is it.
Starting point is 00:47:17 This is what I've been given. And I've made a lot of people happy. And I've got to learn to love myself. It's easier said than done. But to be able to look yourself in a fucking mirror and go, I fucking love that. guy he's awesome that's fucking hard for my affirmations yeah exactly do you do that do you do your gratitudes or do you do things like that or yeah well yeah i mean i do i do i do i mean i i i think i've learned a lot over the last three years in terms of me and and how destructive i am as a
Starting point is 00:47:51 person you know and how how fragile it is too how fragile i am and and and it wasn't um and i i you get to a point i certainly got to a point where someone said to me uh like a really young woman like in her 20s said to me like you have suffered enough you you you don't need to suffer anymore and i was like yeah you know it was like oh my god you're so right you're so completely right you know and i think i don't know there's a few a few things and i think my my my my seven year he was seven then but him just kind of sitting next to me and putting a little hand on my arm
Starting point is 00:48:33 and saying, are you all right, dad? It's like, fuck, I can't, you know. It's, uh, that's what I live for and work, work to try and avoid him ever looking like that again, you know. Yeah, how giving yourself. In terms of being a, you have purpose. You have purpose.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Yeah. He's your purpose, you know. Oh, fuck. Children are your purpose. Absolutely. All three of them. Yeah. All three of the little eight holes. Oh, little bastards.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Did you, what was it that got you into sort of acting and like, you know, just like, what was it that you felt like I, this is what I need, this is what I'm going to gravitate towards, or I'm good at this and my quick-witted, there's something about me that's different that I think I could be successful about this with this? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I, no, I mean, I was always just a fucking fun. funny idiot at school, you know, I was like, like a, I was like a weird kind of stunt man.
Starting point is 00:49:36 I'd fall off a wall or I'd run into a garage door or I'd do a big stunt on my bike or and I was cheeky and funny and, you know, just that everything you do to try and cover up being lonely as a child. Right. And afraid. And but I was funny, you know, I lived at when I was like 18, 19. I lived in Palestine for two years and I made people laugh
Starting point is 00:50:02 and I was good at it and I was a waiter for years and I was really good at that so I was funny and smart and I made loads of tips and I never, my honest to God never wanted, I never thought about,
Starting point is 00:50:17 not once did I get to a point and think, oh fuck what am I going to do? You know, I just never, I just never thought like that, really. Not that I didn't think, I just never thought like it. My parents never, pushed them. Right. They never said
Starting point is 00:50:29 now you need to go to college or, you know, I left school at just 16 I'd turn. And then went to work at a company like a shipping company selling containers. But I was always
Starting point is 00:50:46 the funniest fucker, you know. Right. And I think it was only when I was at Chiquito's Mexican bar and restaurant that I kind of met Simon and I never realized, I never you stand-up was a thing I'd never
Starting point is 00:51:00 I mean I had seen films but I didn't know what cinema was you know I didn't know you could get paid for telling jokes or telling stories or being funny being an idiot you know
Starting point is 00:51:13 and so I met Simon and we just made each other laugh just all the time you know it was just and he said why don't you go try to do some stand-up and so
Starting point is 00:51:28 I thought, yeah, well, fuck it. Yeah, let me, let me do that, you know. And I did 12 gigs, and six were amazing, and six were, like, the lowest point of my life. Of course, yes. I think I'd rather bury my mum again and do some of those gigs. They were just really bad, you know.
Starting point is 00:51:53 And it just wasn't for me. I just felt like it wasn't. I didn't know what it, you know, I've never realized that I just wanted to be great immediately because I can make everyone laugh in the pub yet. Right. I can't do that. I don't know how to do this. I didn't realize it was a fierce skill.
Starting point is 00:52:11 And, you know, you do it for years before you get good at it. Right. And you didn't want to spend years. With your ADD, you couldn't spend years to get good at it. You're like, I'm not taking this time. Yeah. Also, it was like suffering with anxiety of being around loads of. of people and it took a lot out of me, you know, I was like, I'd have a big headache afterwards
Starting point is 00:52:33 and I just didn't like it because I was thinking about it all day and I felt like that feeling you get before I've been going to have a shot, you know, I was like, oh my God, do I fucking gig, you know, I hated it. Just feeling like you have to take a shit all the time, the nerves, you have to take it fucking, as you called it once, a Yankee long, you know. Yes. But, you know, that's the thing. Yeah, it's like I'd just been spent the day.
Starting point is 00:52:58 eating steak and cake and then having to push that out of me and you feel like that all the time just performing and getting on stage at 11 o'clock at night i know i've done it too i did stand up for about i probably did it for about almost a year and every time i go why do you put yourself through this and then all of a sudden you hear the applause and you're like because i love that but i hate everything up to that i hate everything up to the point of actually everyone laughing the whole day just feels like shit. I'm nervous. I have to be great. I put too much pressure in myself. But I still have
Starting point is 00:53:30 that now before every acting gig I've ever done. I do too. I will be up all night, shitting myself and being sick and just being fucking frightened of you know, I think it's changed now but
Starting point is 00:53:45 now it's about a fear of failure, you know, a fear of not knowing my dialogue and fucking the production up and everyone hate you know what I mean same fucking thing why is it that the older we get the more we give a shit the more we're worried about failure we weren't that worried about failure when we were younger no no no but I've said I've worked with a few actors really big actors who come onto the set and and didn't know any dialogue and had to be fed line after line
Starting point is 00:54:16 after line and laughed throughout and then just went home and I was like you lucky prick they just don't care feeling like that confident and you know but yeah I mean I just got after knowing Simon and stuff we he wrote a show he wrote a show with Jessica Heinz called Space right said you just want you to come and come and be a cow I used to do this character and he just said want to you come and do come and do this character you know and yeah that was it really that was that was 20 or the year 22 years ago so if you never met simon what would you be doing right now i think i would be the area manager of a chain of mexican restaurants and you'd probably be okay with it i'd probably run six restaurants in the southeast
Starting point is 00:55:07 and i'd have like a nice company car and what's wrong with that if nothing low pressure geek right and you love cooking oh my god yeah but you met simon and everything fucking changed and you started doing all these movies do you obviously shana the dead was like the first real big one right yeah did you have any idea that that was going to be as much of a success as it was um fuck no no i don't know no not all i mean you know we've always to a certain extent we've always tried especially the films me and Simon made Paul as well
Starting point is 00:55:51 in Cuban Fury and then the ones I did with Edgar and Simon it was about making us laugh and making our mates laugh and just a group of friends who just wanted to have fun and make a film and have a laugh
Starting point is 00:56:07 and you know we love zombie films and now we get a chance to make her own zombie film and we love cop film and now we're making hot And I think it was only when we did the American press tour for Hot Fuzz, I think did we realize how successful Sean of the Dead had been, you know? Right. Because it was like when we did our tour for,
Starting point is 00:56:31 we did such massive press tours for these films. You wouldn't do them these days. But like for Sean of the Dead, we did 28 American cities in 35 days or something like that, you know. And then for Hot Fuzz, we did exactly. the same thing and for World's end funny enough but like
Starting point is 00:56:49 when we went to do Sean on the Dead would come to introduce the screening and no one would really clat no one would know us and you'd get a few people
Starting point is 00:56:57 saying oh it's amazed but then afterwards they'd love the film so people would go bonkers right but it was when we did hot fuzz
Starting point is 00:57:04 when we had to go and introduce the film every night the cinemas were fucking ram and everyone went absolutely mental every time we went
Starting point is 00:57:15 to introduce the screening and it was like whoa you know people probably love shana the dead one of my favorites i've seen it 100 times i'm a big i'm a big horror movie fan if you came to my house you'd see return of the living dead fright night evil dead posters that's just kind of like who i am you know yeah i love it yeah um do you think that it's it's sort of like do you miss that camaraderie that just trying to make each other laugh on set and then what happens is inadvertently or ultimately you get famous and then people start wanting you in the own projects but now you're not working with these same people who you live off of and and riff off of and does that kind of do you kind of like when you're on another movie set you're probably
Starting point is 00:57:55 like i want every movie set to be like sean of the dead i want the jokes to always be coming and they're not always like that yeah look i i'm gonna say no i mean as much as i i mean i love working Malaga and Simon, and I would be nothing without those films and without the chance and the gamble that those guys took on me as a performer, you know, never have enacted before. You know, I'm aware that I'd kind of, I'd be, I'd be the area manager of six Chiquitos, Mexican restaurants right now. But, you know, it's also when you're friends like that, and the more films you do, the more money you can give them to make the films, the pressure gets more and more and more. So, you know, friendships creep.
Starting point is 00:58:37 It's difficult, you know. It's easier to make films without Simon because it's like, I think being a sidekick, this is like my big chip on my shoulder, being a sidekick and a wingman, it's very difficult to be taken as anything but that for things, you know. And so I think I've spent,
Starting point is 00:59:06 I think successfully the last 10 years or so trying to move myself away from that I'm very grateful for it but you know I thought there was potentially I felt I could do more as a character actor
Starting point is 00:59:22 I felt I had it in me you know I didn't want to just have all that fucking death in my life and then not use it or use it just to sell kind of little bits of weed to you know Ed's friends
Starting point is 00:59:37 right so you know it's also difficult because it's we work hard when we did those films we weren't
Starting point is 00:59:44 there wasn't much laugh I mean it was great to do and it was fun but you're busting your ass it was fucking hard
Starting point is 00:59:50 you know yeah we just worked we work we work because Edgar you know unfortunately
Starting point is 00:59:56 we all shared a similar work ethic in terms of let's fucking get it done let's do this you know
Starting point is 01:00:00 right yes it was fun but the Rehearsals were always fun because then it was loose and we had time and if something was funny and we all laughed, it would go in and then that would be the shooting script you'd use and then we only ever shot that. We didn't improvise. We didn't, you know. But yeah, I mean, I also like the fact that Edgar and I and Simon and I have evolved. Our friendships have evolved And because of that, they have survived.
Starting point is 01:00:33 And there is, you know, there is as much love there now as there was, excuse me, when we were 30. But now it's like, I have three kids. I have a partner. We have, you know, my, your focus changes. That's just naturally what happens as you get, as you get older, you know. Because if you, if it doesn't, you end up like fucking Simon's character in the world's end. You know what I mean? what's it like you know doing something like into the badlands where you're playing a badass or like playing a character like that did you enjoy your experience and you were in ireland filming that yeah we were there for two two years on and off you know um i got to say me and daniel woo and doing that show with miles and al was the fucking best thing that happened to me i loved that show i love shooting it um and the more we did you know because the writers were in the state i
Starting point is 01:01:29 and we were there, you know, sometimes to get the scripts and none of it would match up because it's like the guy that wrote four and five isn't the guy that wrote six and seven, so none of it would match. So certainly for the second season, the third season I was in, you know, I was getting to do little rewrites and stuff
Starting point is 01:01:48 and I'd go to Al and Miles and Daniel and say, hey, I rewrote this scene, what do you think? And they were like, yeah, boom, let's put it in. Wow. Wow. Al must have, Al must, Al and Miles must really love you to allow you to do that. They're, that, I'm telling you. And they did. Yeah, of course. It was always, you know, I never, it was never, I never said, I don't, I'm never, I'm never, I'm not one of those actors who says, I don't like this. Or I don't think my parents would say this. I always say, hey, I'm not sure I say this, but how about this, you know, what about this? Or take it or leave it, you know, just make people aware that you're. you know, your place in the food chain, you know. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:29 And it was always good. It was always good and funny and touching and, and relevant, you know. Right. And I think that's, I think that's, I think that's something I really enjoy about my, my career is I have a voice on everything I do. Yeah. You know, even now doing the Nevers and I'm like, number fucking 40 on the cool sheet, I'm still allowed to say, hey, can we, can we, you know, can we try this? Or what about this as an alt?
Starting point is 01:03:02 You know, that's nice to have that freedom where people respect you and know that you're capable of doing that so they kind of trust you. You know what I mean? Yeah. Oh my God, yeah. Also, similarly, there's lots of actors there, you know, there were people on Into the Badlands
Starting point is 01:03:14 as beautiful as they were and they were great at martial arts and acting. If they didn't like something, they just say it. You know, they just say the words. It's like, well, you don't have, I mean, you could, change it you know don't moan about it change it
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Starting point is 01:03:44 about you being the next doctor who true also who is your favorite
Starting point is 01:03:49 doctor who or who gives a shit okay so I have two favorite doctor who's
Starting point is 01:03:55 Tom Baker because he was around when I was 10, 12 and I really love Matt Smith and Capaldi too I think those guys were great I did a thing like someone I saw something on Twitter the other day like one of the geek websites did a thing
Starting point is 01:04:15 30 actors who we potentially could see playing Doctor Who and like I wasn't I didn't make that whole list and so I was so enraged that I even like put a thing on saying did I not really make that list at all?
Starting point is 01:04:32 I don't think, I mean I don't know for me, but you would do it. You would do Doctor Who? Yeah, maybe. Fuck it. Why not? Why the fuck not? Emily S, what's been your favorite project you have done so far in your career? I know there's a lot and then that's a tough one, but the one that really comes to mind.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Okay, so into the Badlands was amazing I really loved doing fighting with my family with Stephen Merchant and I love Steve and too I love him he's such a great guy
Starting point is 01:05:03 he was on the podcast he was great every all the cast was amazing we all wrestled it was just like do you know when you it's just like
Starting point is 01:05:11 you know when you hit a tennis ball perfectly and you can't feel it do you know what I mean yeah this is fucking great we could improvise we'd do what we want and
Starting point is 01:05:21 there was kind of I love to it was great it was like a love i got to have a mohawk as well it was a lovely three months yeah i really enjoyed it i really enjoyed that a lot that was a lot of fun um yeah uh what was i gonna say oh omar i loved the world's end any funny stories behind the scenes to that funny story fucking hell i mean um i never really wanted to hit the stump men when we were doing the fights i didn't like hitting them and then like
Starting point is 01:05:49 edgar's kind of a sadist so like he'd come over just before like when we were doing the fight scenes and stuff you say hey listen I really want you to hit him this time really got him okay uh and then you know they'd be you'd see him like laying on the floor and having like smell insults
Starting point is 01:06:09 and then yeah I kind of got my like Brad Allen who did a lot of the fight in who sadly died recently you know um he he was one of um Jackie Chan's guys you know, and he gave me the nickname the White Sam O'Hung. And I don't think I'll ever forget that. You don't like watching your stuff, do you?
Starting point is 01:06:34 You know, I mean, what's the point? I mean, because sometimes you're really funny and you can be like, wow, you know, I'm really good in that. I'm enjoying what I did in this. Yeah. Okay. I mean, look, I mean, I watch little bits and pieces. And I think, okay, that's cool all. You know, I did
Starting point is 01:06:53 I did a, we made a show called Truth Seekers a couple of years and that was the first thing I'd ever watched when I saw like the Assembly for episode one. That was the first thing I ever watched all the way through and didn't cry in terms of saying, oh my God, Bobby's not, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:11 just being hypercritical. And again, that's that thing. It's like, I'd rather not watch myself and put myself through. I can't change it now. It's done. You know, you made that choice artistically. and you have to live with that.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Even though I know secretly, it's pretty good. You're pretty fucking good. Yeah. You know you're good. There's a confidence in that. Yeah, sometimes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:34 What's the one? Doing white women kill with Alison Tolman and stuff, there was lots of lovely acting there, you know. I was like, there was a few times working with older actors who come in to do like smaller characters who were like proper Broadway actors. And also I did a film with a TV show with Olivia. Coleman a while ago and like me and her got to do like a fucking 12 page drama scene together it was like you have that thing where you just I was watching it and I was like oh this fucking
Starting point is 01:08:03 this is great you know but that those are the things those are the things I have to hang on to when I hate acting you know because it takes so much out of me mentally in terms of oh I'm having to do a diarrhea now I can't sleep I'm afraid I'm afraid I'm not going to know my dialogue I'm shit. I'm, you know, it really takes it out of me in terms of mentally, you know. But of course, once you get on there and you've done that first
Starting point is 01:08:30 rehearsal and you haven't fucked your dialogue up and everything's fine and then you just start firing as the day goes, you're like, yeah, this is fucking what I pay my money for. So many actors have that. We have that thing where we're shitting our pants. I'm nervous. I can't do this.
Starting point is 01:08:46 I don't know why. They're going to find out the truth about me. I suck. then you get on set you do it a couple times and then you start to forget about that and you are able to relax a little more but it's like but why do we go through the same shit why can't we just be like
Starting point is 01:09:00 those actors you were talking about that are just fucking just do it and not worry about it I'll never be that guy I don't think I'll ever be that guy I gotta accept it yes yeah and there's something
Starting point is 01:09:10 there's something there that comes with that level of acceptance in terms of this is my way this is what I do and this is how I do it and it works for me you know yeah do you want to be challenged do you want to be challenged more do you feel like you could like do like a world war two drama and not be funny at all just be really dark and and just oh my god yeah absolutely yeah i'd love to you know i'd love to do that
Starting point is 01:09:35 i mean i think what i don't know i feel like i'm gonna say something that i don't know but i just feel like i don't know i'd like to follow kind of i don't know what i'm saying but yeah of course it's um it's a child i like acting you know i like it i like i like feeling these things you know i like making people believe that i'm this and i feel that you know that's that's a real skill i think you'll ever start your own restaurant have your own restaurant have your own thing yeah you do no i find that it's too much like hard work i don't know man the amount you cook and the you can just see the passion flowing
Starting point is 01:10:20 through the internet you could just see it but it's a lot you've got to be there all day you've got to be there you know but if I you know what sometimes I think if I could do find that one thing like I sometimes think about I'm going to use an American term like a smash burger right right and fucking just do that right to wafer thin patties with American
Starting point is 01:10:43 cheese fried onions and a nice bun it's like boom five pound a pop frosts burgers frosts burgers come what would the title be don't choke don't choke burgers yeah oh i like that that's it's in your one one in eight of our burgers have a toothing oh my god hey this has been awesome man i hope you enjoyed this i really feel like i got to know you like we we've we've talked a few times in this and that but i really I appreciate you opening up. And what do you got going on next? Anything that we can look forward to?
Starting point is 01:11:19 Well, look, we just had a baby. So, I mean, fortunately, I'm in a position where I can say I would like five months off now. You know, COVID certainly helped with that. So, yeah, listen, me and my girlfriend are at a point where we do the same thing every single day. And it's been that for three months, you know. And we're just in a vibe where we're just, it's just parenting. And there's something quite nice in that too. too. You know, so I've written a book. I've written a kid's book, which I'm editing now,
Starting point is 01:11:50 and then I paint a lot too. So I've got a few big things coming across to L.A. to show and a gallery and bits and pieces. Can people buy your work? Can they buy your art? Where can they buy your art? TBC. I'm between galleries right now. But okay, good. Yeah, I'm just trying to, I'm working out some stuff. But I'm I really love painting, so, you know. I love it. Lastly, can I just say something?
Starting point is 01:12:22 Yeah. The thing that I liked about you, Michael, when we met, when we did Australia, is I just kind of loved your naughtiness from the get-go. And it's kind of rare in humans that you just meet someone and you just get them straight away. And I think that's why I've always had a keen affinity and a false. the speed because I'm like yeah I mean well I look man I love you I really appreciate that I felt the same way in fact my buddy Tom who is there with me said tell Nick I said hi but he won't remember me but still you have that sort of presence that people gravitate towards I just wanted to be around
Starting point is 01:13:02 you you're such a likable well you're such a likable guy I really innately just feel that way about you and I I liked you right off the bat and I was like I want to hang with this guy how can I hang with him. He's just, I just feel like you'll. He still do that thing every now and again where I don't know if you remember, but you went, you'd take that guy's microphone and then you'd activate the PA and the whole convention you'd say, supernova. We say that a lot.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Supernova. Yeah, Supernova was a convention we did in Australia and I would take the, the mic and just start talking into it and yelling Supernova. And they got a kick out of that. But by the way, lastly, a question. you've been asked a million times, will you ever do another movie to add to the Coronado trilogy?
Starting point is 01:13:49 Yeah, I'm sure, yeah, of course we will. I don't know when, but yeah, we will. I mean, listen, what I say about this just to close is I love the fact that when we started making these films, we were 28, 29, and now we're in our 50s, and soon we'll be fucking 60-od. So it's really rare that you get to see characters age with the actors. And I think we've been given a chance to do that, you know.
Starting point is 01:14:17 And I think it will be interesting to see what comes next, you know. Well, I've loved this. Ryan, did you enjoy this? Ryan's my engineer over there that you can't see. Hey, Ryan. Hey, Nick. This was great. This has been fantastic.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Yeah, thank you so much, man. I'll be in touch with you. And I really appreciate you doing this for me. This has been a real treat for me, man. Yeah, listen, thank you, mate. I appreciate it. Yeah, give Haley my love, will you? Thanks, man.
Starting point is 01:14:42 I'll see you later. Lots of love. Bye, lots of love. I mean, a lot happened in the episode. I mean, he really talked about how he moved in with Simon Pegg, how he had no money, how his sister passed away at a young age. He was a big drinker. He was, you know, he'd be content having a food truck, you know. Just a genuine guy, man.
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Starting point is 01:18:44 But hey, guys, thanks for listening to the show. Thanks for tuning in. Gosh, I wish I had more to say, but I really don't, other than another fun podcast, another fun interview for me. Hopefully you enjoyed it yourselves. And from myself, Michael Rosam, I'm hearing the Hollywood Hills of California. Myself, Ryan Tails. We love you guys.
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