Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Sorority Boys

Episode Date: February 12, 2019

It’s been 17 years in the making, finally, the Sorority Boys are back together!! Barry Watson, Harland Williams and I discuss Roger Ebert's raving review of the movie, how we were all single during the movie and partied nonstop, and the Playboy model Harland brought on set. Barry opens up about getting Hodgkin's lymphoma, how we bonded over getting our privates waxed together, and just how much making this movie meant to us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's always good to see your smiling face here. Yeah. Do you like talking on the podcast? Do you like being a part of that? I know you're a technical guy. You're really like a mind guy. But do you like having conversations here? It's fine.

I enjoy our banter. Our rapport? Yeah. But otherwise you wouldn't do it. No, I'm not starting my own podcast. But I think people enjoy you, Rob. Well, let Rob know how much you enjoy them, folks. Right into the show or tweet.

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it was one of those movies that bombed in the box office, became a cult classic. It went against Blade 2, E.T. Returns 25th anniversary, Ice Age and a bunch of other shit. The studio buried it, and it just didn't perform well because it was buried. Well, if you're a fan of the show,

you're probably a fan of Michael, so you like this. I think some people have discovered this show that weren't fans of mine, didn't know who the hell I was. And I'm sure there's a lot of them. Like me, I didn't know. Yeah, you still don't know how I am. Yeah, but you stalked me at the comedy store or whatever, and he said, you know, let me work with you.

And then we became friends and you got me doing a, you know, you got a website for me. Then you got a, all right, let's talk about sorority boys. Sorority boys, folks. Sorority boys. We got Barry Watson here. What is he been up to? Seventh heaven. He's in a lot of movies.

He's sorority boys. He was one of the three leads with me and Harlan Williams is also here. Sorority Boys, we talk about all the things that maybe you want to hear. It was one of these little movies that just kept going and people still come up to me all the time and say, I love that movie and I really appreciate it. So sorority boys, we've got a lot to talk about. Harlem Williams, you know, something about Mary, half-baked, what else? Dumb and Dumber.

He was in Back in the Day with me that I directed. Puppy Dog Pals, his new animated series, that is one of the biggest shows on... Disney, probably. Yeah, it's huge. So have a listen. I think you'll enjoy it. Let's get inside the sorority boys. It's my point of view.

You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of You With Michael Rosenbaum. You got your headphones on put them on. You like them on? You might want to hear yourself. I hate listening to myself. You don't have to do it then. You know what I do?

ADR, I never put these. Is ADR like ADD? Prop yourself up. Barry Watson's here. He's having a hard time propping himself. We both are. This is ridiculous. Have you never heard of chairs, bro? Well, don't you like sitting on a couch relaxing? This is like a beanbag. You have one of those things that my dad used to, you know, eat his dinner and bed with. Well, son, maybe if you would respect thy father. This is a big treat. There was really no way to prepare for. for this today. Rob, my producer, have you seen the movie Sorority Boys? Yes. How many times? Probably twice.

I mean, it's been like 10, 15 years since I saw it when it came out. Did you enjoy it? Yeah, that's funny. Okay, there was some sarcasm. That's kind of the common reaction it gets. I don't think that's true. I think I'm going to tell you one thing. Before I do that, I'm going to say,

thank you for allowing me to be inside of you, Barry Watson. Oh, God. And Harlan Williams, who's been on the show. Do you want to go? Should we leave? We might not make it all the way through. Go to Arby's, bro. You want to bail like right now?

Oh, dude, with the Arby sauce? If you don't know sorority boys, this is a film that got 13% on Rotten Tomatoes, which I think Rotten Tomatoes can suck a hard one. Because I'll tell you this movie, if you haven't seen it, I think you're going to have fun. Hey, two of my other movies are on there. Freddy got fingered employee the month. We could talk about those instead. Look, and Tom Hanks the Burbs.

Yeah, they're looking at my big screen right now, or my medium, sized screen. Sorority boys got 13%. It became sort of a cult. I know people everywhere always come up to me and we're like, hey, we love that movie. My uncle Dave loved the movie. He hates everything. That meant something. I think, do people still come up to you guys

and say, hey, sorority boys, I love that movie? Shockingly, yes. A lot of people come up and still, more than anything I've done, but maybe I've just done a lot of shitty things. And so, this is one of the better things. Bro, boogeyman? Oh. Bro. That was good. Boogie man. I love Boogie Man.

No, but it's... I still have night tremors, bro. I think that... Boogie Man. Rob, what are you doing? Rob's adjusting your cut, your mic. Oh, creepy already. This is getting weird.

Well, even before we got here, it said Michael's in the shower. Yeah. Like, we were like, what time should we be there in Michael? I'm in the shower. Come on. Just walk in. Come on. It was like very Mrs. Robinson.

We're friends. I could be in the shower. Well, Barry, I was coming... Said he was going to be here. Early, so I was... Dude, looking at your hair, you clearly have not had a shower today. That hair is greasier than Kevin Bacon's underpants. Dude, let me tell you something.

My hair is... I cleaned it, I rinsed it out. No, you have not... I'm going to go in your shower. It'll be dry. You're lying. Your shower is dry. He took a bath.

He took a bath. Now, listen, we did this movie. He was sponged. It was a nice little bubble bath before he did his sorority boys podcast. We did this movie in 2002. it came out. We filmed in 2001. Before we get started on this, I'd like to read a review from Roger Ebert. Yes. A dead guy. I can't even believe he reviewed the movie. He's dad, but he did review. He goes, one element of sorority boys is undeniably good, and that is its title. Pause by

the poster on the way into the theater. That will be your high point. It has all you need for the brainless autopilot sitcom rip off, a high concept that is right there in the title, easily grasped at the pitch meeting. The title suggests the poster art. The poster art, the Post-art gives you the movie. The story details can be sketched in a study of bosom-buddies, National Lampoon's Animal House, and the shower scene in any movie involving girls' dorms or sports teams. What is unusual about sorority boys is how it caves into homophobia of the audience

by not even trying to make its cross-dressing heroes look like halfway, even one-tenth of the way, plausible girls. They look like college boys wearing cheap wigs and dresses they bought at Goodwill. They usually need a shave. One keeps his retro-forward thrusting sideburns and just combing. a couple of locks of his wig forward over them. They look as feminine as the sailors wearing coconut braziers

in South Pacific. Their absolutely inability to pass as women leads to us to another curiosity about the movie which is that all of the other characters obviously mentally impaired. How else to explain fraternity brothers who don't recognize their own friends in drag? And he goes on and on. I'm curious

about who would go see this movie. Obviously moviegoers with a low opinion of their own taste. It's so obvious what it is that you would require a positive desire to throw away money in order to lose two hours of your life. Sorority Boys will be the worst movie playing in any multiplex in America this weekend. And yes, I realize Crossroads is still out there. I guess that was another bad movie.

Crossroads, I don't remember that one. I think that just summed up what the movie was supposed to be. Yeah, I thought that was actually. That had no clue that they were women and looked bad as women. I thought that was a good review. Yeah, that was nice. That was a nice one. Well, look right here.

Look right here, Entertainment Weekly. Look at Harlan's headshot right here. Good thing and bad thing. Entertainment Weekly said suitably raunchy but unexpectedly generous. It gave a tomato, one of the few tomatoes. But she interviewed or she reviewed this in 2011, 10 years after the movie came up. Oh, lemon juice. No, all these reviews are so old.

I mean, so new or more recent. You know, here's the thing. If you don't suspend disbelief when you're going to see a movie called sorority boy, I don't know what to tell you. Why are you even going to see sorority boys? These movies are made for, it's lowbrow, fun, it's entertainment. You want to go to a movie and laugh. We didn't take it seriously.

It was just a fun thing we did. And by the way, if I may add, I thought it was the best experience in my life. Well, I was going to say it was probably the most fun I've ever had on any job. Yeah, me too. Because it didn't feel like work. It just, I mean, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. But I mean, no, but I just, I look. back on that when anybody ever asked me like what was my favorite thing I've worked on I was like

it was working with Rosenbaum and Harlan yeah and why I don't know why Harlan why was it so fun because we bonded so well and we when we were on set like usually when you go on a production you're in your head you're like acting acting what are my lines what do I got to do but I think when we went on set and they rolled action we were just like what's the other guy doing how can I connect to him what's my what's he thinking how can we make each other laugh it was just this weird, like... Yeah, I was trying to crack each other up. Yeah.

And for you, it was also learning what the script was about, because you never read the damn script. Yeah, Barry was about to get into something beforehand. You understand when we all auditioned. I think Barry was the only one who didn't audition because he was a star already. No, no, no, that's not true. I did, I know I did read. You read?

I did read, um, Wally didn't want me. I don't think... Wally didn't want me. I don't think Wally didn't want me either. Yeah. And then somehow we had to convince him, and so I had to convince him. and so I had to go in and do all that with Wally. And then Harlan, I think they always wanted you, but...

Oh, boy. You know what happened in Harlan's audition. Go ahead, Barry. Tell about what Harlan did for this audition. So, Larry, our producer, one of my favorite producers I've worked with. I loved Larry. He was my favorite. He was telling me about the audition process with Harlan one day because he said, yeah, you know, it was so funny.

Harlan came in, and he started reading the lines. And then we asked him, like, hey, Harland. Do you mind trying to do it in a female voice this time? And you sort of looked at them and said, okay, okay, interesting choice. I'll give it a shot. He had no idea with the movie. You had no clue. I didn't know.

Read it as a girl. Why? I didn't know it was a drag movie because I didn't read the script. You don't read any script. You want to hear what really confused me in the script as a guy, my name was Duf. And as the girl, it was Roberta. So when they asked me to do it, I didn't know what lines to read because I didn't know who Roberta was.

I was like, well, and then they go, well, read Roberta. And I'm like, okay, I didn't realize until I started reading that they were one and the same. And then it clicked. It clicked like after about three lines. And I went, oh, wait a minute. Did you go red-faced or embarrassed? No, I just, I just, I was going through a divorce.

I was in a really like just a shitty state of mind. I remember that. So I didn't even want to be there. I was, I was depressed. I just didn't even want to be there. So I didn't read the script. I thought you said, don't talk about the divorce. Yeah, well, I'm just giving you reference to that.

Well, that's all we're going to say about that. It was just a depressing time. I remember that time for you. I hope I was there for you a little bit. You were, because you went through it too. Talking about the shag carpet. You divorced my wife, too. Yeah, twice.

The shag carpet and the Spanish house. Oh, yeah. Something about that. I don't know why that. I just remembered. But anyway, enough about the shad carpet in the Spanish house. Yeah, go back to the whole thing. So you didn't know.

You were going through a hard time. You go in there. And so do you remember any of the lines or you remember? Give me the voice. I want to hear the voice again. Well, I just was, I was reading as my guy. And then they said, well, you know, I was like, hi, I'm dup for a while I was reading as me. And then they go, can you do it as a girl?

And I was like, okay. And I was just like, um, hi, I masturbate constantly. And, um, you know, I'm. My balls hurt, you know. I'm addicted to porn, and I masturbate constantly. You know, I just kind of went into half. And they started laughing? I don't know.

I just remember I was, I was, I just went into it. Like I went into it full zone. Like I, even though I was in there and I didn't know the script, when I started to read, I just went full into it, like full focus, like 100%. And I lost myself in it. And maybe that's what, what was convincing. about it and got me the part i don't know in the movie there's also barry i don't know if you know this but we figured this out and this just happened i think wait wait you just figure in the movie they show at

the fraternity house all the pictures of the classes the different fraternity brothers throughout the years and there's pictures of harlan and there's a name underneath his real name which is robert flank i believe and he didn't know that was his real name he's like oh in the movie yeah yeah I didn't know. I was like, who's Robert Flake? I didn't know anything. I was him and years ago because he never graduated. I didn't know anything.

He didn't know anything every day. In fact, when he did my movie back in the day, I remember we're going to go, hey, we're going to shoot the bathroom. We're seeing the day. He goes like, all right, you got pages for that, bud? I mean, what the? But, you know, that's the kind of charm of Harlan. He always comes through and it's kind of you're an improvisational wizard.

So whatever lines are there, you make them better. Thankfully. Oh, yeah. No, every day. Every day on set. Hey, hey, buddy. what's this, what's the scene about? I was like, you still haven't read the stretch.

I know, I feel bad, but I don't. It was actually fun for me to kind of tell you what I thought the movie was about. Well, I, you always had your shit together, Barry. I got to tell you, you were always the one who just, I mean, we all knew our lines, but you were just, you, I could tell you were a seasoned vet at that point. Really? And I wasn't yet, because Smallville had just started. I was just doing a few things.

Oh, that's right, because you had two wigs. You had the guy wig and the girl wig because you had the ball head because of Lex. You know why I had the, you know why I had the, guy wig why it was made like it was um no wali walladarski the director who didn't want me originally or you yeah um and uh wanted harland who didn't know his fucking lines uh he goes yeah so i know your ball from smallville so rosembaum i want you to i'm gonna give you i want you to your wig to look like my hair i'm like your hair is terrible why don't want that he's like so they made a wig to look like wallies and it was just really dark and i always wear a sock hat i refuse because it

looks so bad so i had to wear a sock hat most of the movies if you watch it that's right it was a wig yeah terrible wig terrible wig and wali in the audition i went in and i thought i killed it and i just stayed in the moment i stayed to be that i was that asshole and i left and my agent said a lot of the guys liked you but the director thought you were just going to be difficult to work with because you were just kind of an asshole in the reading and i go well i was just being the character wow and coolidge would tell me this later gregg cooge who wrote it yeah and he was a good buddy of ours you know i went back in he still felt like whatever so i remember i called him from Vancouver and I said hey Wally

look man I just want you to know that I'm a lot of fun on sets and I'm not hard to work with I'm really easy I just was I thought you wanted to see that and that's not me and I just hope you give me the chance we'll have a blast together because I can really do this and I'll be and I really just like try to sell him and he goes okay

I go okay you guys yeah okay you got the roll I go well well thank you see you next week maybe Have some lunch. That was it. He didn't want me at first. He thought I was just maybe an asshole.

Wow. Little did he know. See, I wonder if he thought I was an asshole, too. Well, you were like, you had super, like, you haven't been on the show, so we really haven't got inside Barry. But we always wondered, by the way. How far inside of Harlan did you get? We got pretty far.

We went back to his childhood and things like that. We talked about some serious stuff. Mostly me cropping with the door open at Burning Man, which he would never invite me back to Burning Man. But, Barry, you're from Michigan. You grew up with brothers and sisters, right? Yep. Happy family.

You know, there was a, you know, my family, I grew up in Michigan, so my family moved to Texas when I was about nine. And that's when everything kind of went to the shitter for my family and my parents ended up splitting up. Did that really affect you? It's tough for a kid at 14. You know, it affected me in a way because I felt like I was sort of on my own because both my parents. parents sort of went their, you know, their separate ways. And in a selfish way, we're just trying to do what they needed to do for themselves. And so myself and my little brother, I feel like, sort of got the short end of the stick. But that also, I think, is what drove me to come to

Los Angeles and, you know, pursue acting. Yeah, because you were doing modeling at first, right? I did a little, short little bit of modeling, and I did not care for it. You did not like it. At all. I still love it. I still love it. Did you not like it? They're going to laugh. No, no, I saw that Macy's ad last week. Yeah, it was beautiful. I'm doing fashion week in Milan next week. Do you want to catch some of my catwalk stuff? I'm excited.

I'm excited to see that. I work out at the catwalk. I do my little shake. So you were doing that, but then you said, okay, then you got a gig on you were doing like a soap opera for a while. No, I've moved out to Los Angeles and like a month after I moved out. I got this gig, like this small recurring gig on days of our lives. And I was like, well, this shit's easy.

Isn't that really difficult to learn lines? Don't they have tons of lines ever. day. I learned a lot when I had that experience because I had small little parts. It wasn't so difficult for me, but I learned some of the way each sort of actor does their thing. And it was, I knew right then I didn't want that to be my future. Really? And were you a fast learner? Did you take classes and stuff? I started taking classes and I was lucky enough to get into this theater group at the young actor space in Van Nuys. And we built this little theater called the Black Hole Theater. I think it still exists. It might not be called that anymore. And I

just kind of surrounded myself as a good group of, you know, other actors that were doing the same thing I was doing. And you, you hit pretty fast. Well, sort of. I mean, I did that job and then I didn't work for two years, you know, and then I really learned that I had to kind of study and kind of... How do you deal with, like, not working for two years? Were you like, were you like, were you a drinker then? Were you like kind of in your head? Where you, were you always thinking about, ah, you know, dysfunction in my family growing up? Oh, my God. No. What'd you think? No, I was always a pretty open person. I thought I had a pretty good attitude on life. I was so young and

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Well, you had to have gotten laid a lot. You're a beautiful guy. like, well, I, you know, hey. But you had fun. I had fun. I had a lot of fun. I had a lot of fun. I'm still having fun. Well, not, I'm not. You're married now. I'm married now. So you're not having as much fun. Yeah, I'm having fun with my wife. Of course, but you're not having the other fun. How do you know? The strange. I think he is. The strange fun? The strange fun. Natasha Gregson Wagner, who was in the movie I did called Urban Legend. It didn't work with her, but she was in the opening scene of the movie.

Yeah. But she was great. And she was beautiful. You have one daughter with her? Yes, I do. Clover. Clover. Yeah. And you have two other kids, Oliver and Felix. That's correct.

Yeah. With their mother. So you're a busy guy. You're a family guy. Somehow, see, through my dysfunction, I'm single at 45. Through your dysfunction, you have been married a couple times and are always in relationships. And you like having a partner. Yeah, I think I do.

I think that maybe stems from my childhood and my parents and the lack of, feeling sort of any sort of family unity i don't know some sort of like you know psychological kind of fucked up thing for my childhood that i just i want family like this harland i got inside you guys a little you got taste you guys were like my family for a while and then then i got cancer and then um oh shit whoa thanks for bringing that up see we always talked about it why doesn't barry want to hang out and i talked him before this i was like yeah you know he's always busy goes well you know i got cancer you got hodgkins yeah well that's the the good cancer.

Who played for the Pittsburgh Penguins in 94, by the way. Hodgkins? That's right. That's funny. Hodgkin's disease from Sweden. Yeah. Wow. Decease.

He got it. That's kind of like kind of what got me through it is knowing about Hodgkins. You got it right after sorority boys too, like a year after. I got it before that. I found out right actually after. Seventh Heaven? No, no. I was doing publicity for sorority boys.

Yeah. And I was in New York. And it was St. Patrick's Day. And I was talking to my older brother. And he's like, what are you doing for St. patty's day i said man i'm just beat i don't feel like going out and having a whiskey and a beer i'd be getting hodgkins i be getting for st patty's days so there we go so so then after that i'd be dying in six months i'd be doing because i knew i didn't want to go have a beer on st patty's day i knew there was

something wrong with how what does it feel like though other than like i don't want to go for a beer like is your like are you just depleted i was really tired i was tired in a way that i just had never like you just like i just got like working like an 18 hour day on a show or something I'm like that, and you're tired, right? Right. This was a totally different, a completely different sort of time. For how long? How long were you feeling this?

I was feeling for a couple months. And then, um, so you're like, I can't deal with this anymore. No. Well, then I found this lump on my neck and my mom was with me at the time. And so I said, this isn't normal. I went to the doctor and, you know, I kind of knew right away that something was bad just from the doctor's reaction. What's that feeling when, when, honestly, when a doctor tells you, like, Harlan,

you can relate when you found out you had gonorrhea. Yeah. No, I'm kidding. Had. I'm glad. Dude, I still have it proudly. I'm going to give it to you in about half an hour, too. Oh, gosh. Are you on Tinder? No. Okay. Well, I'll swipe until I'll find you. Oh, my God. Keep swiping until I find it. So what's it like, I mean, it's kind of like it's a stupid question, but it's not, because I wonder, that feeling, I'd feel like I'd pass out if somebody says, oh, you have cancer. well it was interesting going back to my family shit because when I found out my doctor when I sat down at his office he goes he looked at me he goes oh I forgot to tell you to bring somebody and I was like so right then I knew and I thought because they always tell you if you have somebody you know come with you how does he forget that little nugget so he told me maybe he forgot you had cancer yeah yeah so he told me and the first thing I thought about was just my family I actually thought about my family like wow what are my siblings and my mom and dad

going to do because I wasn't educated on what it was yet. You know, they give me all these pamphlets and all this shit and I'm just driving back from Cedar Sine, I backed it to Topanga, which is obviously you guys alone. It's not a short drive alone. Yeah. It's a very windy road with a lot of inviting cliffs. Yeah. Yeah. Do you remember any song on the radio at the time?

No, I didn't have. Don't fear the Reaper. If you leave me now. Double slam blast. Rainbow blast. Now you guys know I haven't seen you since then. And you know there's Some people out there going, oh, my God, they're sitting there joking about his cancer. Well, that's what friends do. Friends can do it.

Dionne Warwick said that. Look, it's the best thing because, you know, actually, you know, I had just a long drive home. And it was a matter. It was just, you know, it wasn't about me. It was just about like, okay, well, you know, I got to get, what the hell is that noise? He's flicking his can. It's the pop top. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt your cancer story.

But anyway, let's stop talking about my, let's talk about the gonorrhea some more. Listen. All right. So this brings us to this whole thing. So, you know, on the set, I mean, we can go on. There's so many questions. Like, I put, let me just tell you. I know Harlan, you joke like, yeah, who's going to want to talk about this? But the reality is, I put it on Instagram within minutes. Tons of retweets. Tons of likes, tons of questions. People want to know from us about what happened. So there's all that. I got a wig here that I'd love Harland or Barry to put on when we take pictures later. Not me. It's more of a mullet. Who's had that wig out before? I wore it for, I was, I think I was guns and roses for a birthday party. You were the whole band? I think I was the whole band.

You were guns and roses. I was guns and roses. Look, it was a great time. People always say, you know, when you're studying acting, you want to be an act, whatever. You're like, you always dream that this is what it's like on set. Like you said. I mean, honestly, like, it's not like this. you don't always have such a blast

I always try to have fun but sometimes you go there and people are serious people don't want to hang out with you people don't want to get a beer I think it was a combination of like you know you're going through a divorce you were you know probably

you know you were I was going through a breakup with uh yeah you were going through a breakup I remember and I was single and it was just like a big movie and we're leads in this movie and it's at Disney and we're in drag and we're just it just was a party

for three months. Yeah. Yeah. It was a nonstop. I didn't want it to end. And if that movie would have had like legs, if it would have gone off, people always say, what about a sorority boy's spin-off? And we talked about like doing a, you know, a sequel and things like that.

And it was just a great time for us. And we have so many stories to tell. Well, it's true. This, that was, that was the, there's always like, I don't remember looking back. I've been thinking about this before I show up. Was there, do you guys remember any sort of like hiccup that we had or? some sort of drama that we no i mean seriously there wasn't really a lot of uh i mean bresner i remember brezner the producer had a couple problems with a couple actors and but i'm not gonna i don't need

to mention them right no no you shouldn't no but he was just like uh this guy's over the top what are they doing and they let him do it that was me no it was probably but you know it really was you it was probably it really was me he pulled i don't know if i ever told you guys this but he pulled me to the side one day on set and he goes he goes hey harland man bring it back he goes listen man you just got to like bring it down a little bring it down i just looked at him i said dude this is the character i said i can't i can't shut it off i'm following my instincts i said i can't i can't shut it off i said i this is the guy it's in me you know it's living in me and he goes well okay well okay and he didn't know what to say but

I totally pushed back on it really well I had to because it you know we were in mid production and I was doing stuff that was you were already in it I was him I was the guy and I couldn't just switch gears that that happened to me in another movie once and it was a disaster so I just I just said Larry I got to follow my my instincts man yeah you can't change that you can't the halfway through a quarter way through you can't just change it but I think it might have been a note that maybe came it could have come from Wally where Wally was like man because I was always experimenting, you know? I like to try stuff.

Well, they did want us to tone down the fuck-offs. Oh, yeah, we always had this thing. And it started out with Harlem where he'd go, fuck off. And then we'd all like, and I found it to be really funny. Like there was a, you know, one of the guys in the head of the fraternity house, I forgot his name, Brad. And Brad would always like, listen to me. I want to tell you a story about K-O-K-K.

And then Harlem would go, fuck off. And you go, fuck off. And I go fuck off. Every scene, every scene. Every scene. We're riding fuck off. He goes, guys, just let the fuck offs go. Every scene.

Well, I figured there was ways for them to cut it out. There's editors, you know. They can figure out a way to do that. But that's probably the reason why it was rated R. And I got the most heat I felt because I, for some reason, Harlan made you and I, me more because you were able to control it with your, you know, you had been working enough where I don't know you were a pro, but I couldn't let it go. Like, there was a scene where he tries to.

he gives me a roofie to roofie my fraternity brother and he's going you see this little pill butt you see this little white pill here with everywhere I'm just my lips are quivering I'm like the guy

Ralph Wiggum was from the Simpsons like that was our first scene I'm dying yeah wait that was your guys's first scene that was the three of us in the bedroom yeah but it was just like an I go I host in Wally Walladarski the director Rosenbaum

And I go, dude, and so they made you turn around. That's right. You gave me the lines facing the wall, which was worse. I don't remember that. You're facing the other way going, see this little. I go, can you just not even do the voice? If someone else read this fucking lines? I remember.

I couldn't get through it, man. There's some scenes where you could see me just, like, laughing. And we just, I mean, remember that at the dinner table, there's a dinner table where we're eating. You're laughing. If you watch the clip, Harlan's laughing. Yeah. We're all, we just can't stop. We enjoy each other.

I don't think I held it together all the time. No, no, not all the time. No, no, I quit. You laughed a lot, but you were able to keep it together a little bit of the time. Yes. Do you remember the scene? There's a scene near the end of the movie where we're in front of the girls' sorority house, and they drop a giant fishnet on the three of us.

Oh, my God. And we're laying on the sidewalk. And we all hit the ground and we're all in a bundle. We're like, we look like a tumbleweed, and you can't tell who's who. And underneath, we were puffinching and pinching and grabbing. We were just like pounding on each other and laughing our heads off. And you couldn't tell because we were just this moving blob. And we just stayed on the Queen Mary one night.

Oh, that was fun. I stayed in the haunted, one of the haunted stoves. Yeah, it was haunted, dude. I was scared to death. Because I said when I got there, I said, I want, I remember I told us, I said, I want to stay in the most haunted room on the boat. And they said, we haven't had somebody stay in, they probably say this to everybody. We haven't had anybody stay in the state room for two years because we always get phone calls from it. and there's never anybody there.

Did you see anything? No, I mean, remember, we were shooting nights. So I'd come in, and we'd come and have bloody marries, like, after we'd get off work and, you know. So nothing appeared at the end of your bed? No, because I told him I had to sleep. I said, hey, spirits, I have to. Someone, one of the three of us. And by the way, I want to talk about this for a second.

If you think this movie's chauvinistic, if you think it's whatever, it may be a lot of those things. But at the end, it shows that there's change. we change as human beings we change as men which i think is an important message and it's not just a you know hey boobs and this and that i mean there are all that and it's what even if it is that's the point of it was a different time well yes they start off as chauvinist yeah and they they come around to realize we learn of course and i think that it's just like you know i think you know the reason i said that as you read roger ebert you get attacked for these things where it's like these guys change they evolve yes there are those things and

the beginning but the whole point is anyway I wanted to say that I think I needed to say that I felt like I need to say it maybe I didn't need to say it something on your shoulders for a while bro we were friends with everybody on that set and we had a great time and all the shit that went on I remember us in drag walking down Disney down the hallway to the cafeteria and there's these guys these crew guys

and from a it's a blocker from a block away we look pretty hot and I could see them checking us out and going yeah and then they got close we're like how are you and they're like oh my god we were from a block away we were hot well being in that commissary and going yeah i think there's a while where we would try to like not go and drag i remember being in the commissary going you know what this must have been like what it used to be like in the old days in the commissary where there'd be so many different actors in there's the best and it was so uh i don't know i did it i did a summer not to

deflect but i did a summary movie called down periscope i remember and me and all the guys were in sailor gear and we'd go to the cafeteria and all dressed as sailors and then we go off the fox on and we go to like KFC, like eight sailors going in for Kentucky fried chicken. They'd give you free food. What, like sailors never going to Kentucky fried chicken? Well, you know, we were submarine sailors and it was weird. Submarine sailors. Oh, and I remember, did you remember when we always every day we'd stuff our leftovers of lunch and Rosie's toilet?

Oh my God. Donuts, we'd put donuts. One day we had, they treated us to lobster tails. And I'm allergic to it. And you put that in my shirt. We took all the lobster tails out of the garbage and put like 42 of them in his toilet and his trailer. You were so, that was like one of the last days. And that was the only time.

You were mad? You were so mad. Well, it smelled like a fucking red lobster in my fucking room. Dude, it looked like King Neptune took a dump in your trailer. It was horrible. Rob, do you remember this movie? I mean, by the way, does this ring a bell? These stories?

Do you like hearing these stories? Yeah. Oh, this story's better than the movie. movie much better yeah you know there's so many questions i'd love to get to a few right now are these all your questions well you know you haven't asked one i haven't asked one i haven't asked one get with it bro i want to ask questions but these are from people who just want to looking at the characters objectively eight ball sports show my brother is on this podcast eight ball show tommy caprio eric rosembaum eight ball sports this is their question looking at the characters

objectively do a kill merry fuck on yourselves what's that mean i know you have to kill one of us marry one of us and fuck one of us wait wait wait wait of us three as the in drag so you would be Daisy you would be Roberta kill me I would say kill me I would I was the ugliest yeah I'd kill you I'd marry you

I'd marry you I god this is a tough question I'd marry you and I don't know if I I'd fuck my character yeah I knew you were gonna say you'd fuck your character I knew that well because it's just the one and not one and dumb but I'd marry you oh okay right right right right you know what I'd be with you yeah but Barry was the best looking so that's most that I'd marry a whole

Most guys would probably want a power plow. Oh, Mary, because you could plow forever. Creep show. I did have the best legs. You didn't know the games. Yeah, you had the best legs. You had the best everything. No, I did not.

But looking back, I was not an attractive woman. None of us were. Even though Daisy was supposed to be the... I thought I was kind of hot. Look at Rosie. Can't keep it together. Laugh into the mic so people can share your experience. Yeah, come on.

Come on, Michael. Selfish. Oh, my God. This is Michael on set every day. He just, can't keep it together. You fucking asshole. Niedermeyer from Animal House. We worked with him.

Do you remember that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. Did he tell you any stories about Belushi or anything? Did you ask him? You didn't care. Oh, God, no, I mean, I think we were, we were always asking those guys different things about Animal House. I didn't ask anything.

Well, you didn't care. I thought he looked sickly because he used, in Animal House, he was chubby, and on our study looked old and thin. And I was just, like, weirded out. Maybe he was on a diet. He was. He lost weight. He lost weight.

He was. people so far on the show. Emily Sue Dahl, Ian Sue, for Harlan Woolham's. What was it like eating Michael Rosenbaum's boob in the movie? Oh, that was when I ate the grapefruit. Oh, yeah, yeah. That was a scene when I looked back in the movie, I did overdo it. Remember? I was like just, I kept making these faces like I was choking on it. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. And that's the one scene. If they'd cut it right, it would have worked. Yeah, it looked weird. But the way they did it, it looked like I was kind of like trying to be screen hog and be overly funny and I didn't like it.

I was the one scene I was like, I remember he was not liking that. But they didn't, they didn't cut it right. And then I remember you guys were really gracious because there's a scene where I grab your boob, it's a grapefruit, I started eating it and just committing to my character, I said, this guy would puke it up. And I said, are you guys cool if I just like spit right in your face? And you let me. You guys let me and I spit the grapefruit stuff.

I know that this is going to look so good on screen. And they cut it. And they didn't use it. Yeah. And then they used all these scenes in the background when I was just going, where I was choking and it didn't cut properly. Yeah, you didn't like that. And so it looked like I was just trying to like...

There was a bit of that. I didn't like that. Out of your hands. It was out of my hands, but I wish they had done it right because it really would have worked. Be serious, Lisa, says Gnicki. The obvious one is if there will be a sequel, we don't know that answer. You know, I think it's a little late now in the game. I don't know how there could be a sequel.

What would it be? Harlan and I had an idea like if, like, Like my character had a daughter that went out to college and something happened where we were worried about how she was treated. So we went back undercover to kind of protect our daughter. And I thought that was like a really good idea. And I felt like there could have been some fun there. But, and I think it's, you know, if you made it for a price, you could probably do it. Being serious, though, were the three of you glad you made the movie then and now, obviously, I think.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It was really fun, man. Bald goff. Who cried the most when you had to wax your legs? Oh, okay. Hold on. Can I talk right now? That was, yes, talk.

Because we went to Sylvester Stallone's waxer. We did? Did we, we might have had a side of- He has a waxer? Yeah. Don't you guys remember this? We went to that, where does he get waxed? I don't know, but don't, I remember we all went together because.

Oh, get my dingleberries. I got a couple of dingleberries. You go wax the chef. I got some pumice in my fucking rocky hole. Go ahead, Barry. I can't. Okay, so we all, I remember we, it was before we started, obviously, before we started shooting, and as a bonding thing, we all went together. Like, the producers wanted us to go together, and it was Sylvester Sloans.

I'll never forget this. He wasn't there, though. I know. In spirit, he was. But she kept talking about Sylvester. So did you give me the Brazilian. So we are. It's going to be no recrack.

Well, this is where I thought I might not like you guys, actually, when we, before we started shooting. Really? Yeah, I haven't told you guys. Or maybe I did tell you guys. So we were all there together. You guys all get waxed first, and I'm about to go down, and both you guys go, well, shit, you know what? I've got to get out of here, Bear, so good luck. And then you guys left me there all by myself to get waxed.

We left him? He left him. Yeah. Are you listening to? Yeah, you guys left me. We were supposed to go there to bond to get waxed. I watched my brothers get waxed, and then you guys took off. We took off.

All right with your slides. We're Sloanette and bring in it. Well, let's hear of yours, ask. much. You see the fucking lie, Robby. Lowe got to, like, wax my back and my bowl. I say, get my dingleberry.

So, wait a minute. You didn't like us how long before you started liking us? No, I think that's excited. The re-through. I do remember that. And I remember I trimmed my chest hair. Yep.

And I shouldn't have done that. I should have had it grown out of the way. So you had bumps. I had bumps. And you had bumps on your legs, too. We all had bumps. Yeah, yeah. I had that shit women go through.

You know what's weird, too. And Franz, the wardrobe guy. Hans. Hans, Hans, on France, he goes, he's like, oh, Barry, I've got this Austrian milk fat. It'll clear everything up, but it's illegal. Don't tell anybody you have it. And it freaking worked. It freaking worked.

What did you give us any? No, you guys weren't as bad. You liked getting waxed, I think. Hang on. Hans would come in every day and I go, Hans, how do I look? He goes, well, you know, I've seen better. Wow, that's a little bit like each to low. Michael, we have to hurry.

Michael, you have to be upset. Michael, you have to put on your skirt. He said, I've seen better. I was just over in Harlan's trailer. How many times did Roberta actually masturbate? How many times did Roberta actually masturbate? In the movie? Rob, the Prince Robb.

I don't think there was ever a scene where they showed that. He just said it. And he never, like, they never had a scene where he was, no. I don't think he masturbated. I don't think he masturbated. No, he just admitted it when they're doing, like, the group therapy session. He was, like, talking about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We all met on sorority boys for the first time, right? Yeah. we might have met before because I was doing some shitty WB show I might yeah I think Michael I had met you I was doing the Tom show with Tom yeah I think so you were you're on the universe a lot some I don't know so I think I think we had met or met briefly before sorority boys so I was aware of you yeah and you got I remember being starstruck by you Harlan why because I remember you had done like something about Mary or and dumb and dumber and I remember just I was so excited I remember coming up to you and I go hey

and I wanted you to do like the Oh yeah You know the thing and you were like Afterwards when I left I was like God man he probably hates me I got to work with a fan You were insecure about Harlem Did I tell you what this guy did at the Palm

Restaurant? When was it? How long it was it? This was like a year and a half ago Okay This guy he's a full-time professional actor right Oh me Rosie does the biggest Hollywood party foul you can ever do So we go into the you always bring us up because it's great no we're gonna inside of you he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna fuck the whole thing up he's gonna pretend it was worse than it was okay good

we're gaping you right now yeah go ahead so so basically we go to the palms for a nice lobster you were busy that night i'm allergic to lobsters yeah of course and and so we come out of the palms in beverly hills you know fancy restaurant yeah and this this actor this famous actor is in uh white hunter black heart with clean eastwood He was in Lawnmore Man, lost. I remember him on Lost. So he's in all the, he's a career actor. Like, he's at the pinnacle of his career, probably, you know, almost at the end of it.

And we come out the front door, and there he is. This guy's walking in. And Rosie's like, he becomes fanboy. He goes, oh, my God, dude. Oh, my God. He grabs him. He puts his arm around me. He goes, I love you, bro.

What's your name? Oh, yeah. The guy's face just dropped. Not an entire up. No, no. Nice face drop. I had just seen lost, like, that, a big episode, and he was, like, in it. And I just go, dude, I love you.

You're such a great actor. What's your name? What's your name? Yeah. Oh, wow. Party foul. Did you really do that? My accent.

And I got fanboyed. Here's what's worse. I still don't remember his name. I don't either. He was the pilot. Whoa. Was that a real shower scene boner penis? Oh.

No. B-side. That was no, yeah, that was my real penis. It was not. You could not have gotten it hard. No, I had to do that like 30 different takes, get a heart on like that. You're good, bro. You shot that for two days.

You're a liar. And this was before Viagra, too. Yeah, and you know, I didn't have a lot of days off on that movie, but, man, I had, I was beat after that. Shaft Boy, R.D. No, they, you know what that was? It was a, it was a, it was a, like a pump that I, I, they actually gave me, that ran down the side of my back side of me and I had to pump it up and it would raise up.

What were you wearing? It was like, I was wearing like a speedo with like a little balloon condom thing that would blow up with fake foam around it. Oh my God, I never knew that. But it was a nice shaft. Thanks. It looked like a nice fake boner.

Yeah, no, it was good. It represented me well. Do you still get boners pretty easily? Do you wake up with Boners, Barry? Oh, God. Yeah, of course. Do you? Harlan, do you wake up with Boner still?

You're a little older than you. I got one right now, bro. He just had KFC. He just had KFC. Of course, he's got to eat. I've never seen a diet. Dude, do you know, I could honestly read my text from him for the last two years. Hey, bud, I'm at Mickey Dees.

What do you want? I'm like, nothing. Thanks. Hey, the breakfasts are really great, bud. You sure you don't want anything? Dude, what I'm at Arby's? You want a roast beef scorched or what? Well, what about the other day?

I'm at a grocery store, and I see a little, cake in the bakery called Rainbow Blast Cake and I send him a picture. What is Rainbow Blast Cake, bro? And then, what is that? Then two days later, he sends me the picture again and goes, yeah, this is too good to just touch you at once.

Yeah. So I got another rainbow blast cake. What is it? What is Rainbow Blast Cake? Who names this shit? The guy at Ralph's? It's like, hey, what do we call this cake? Rainbow Blast Cake.

What is that? Guy ignores me. Sunshine E.07. How did Harlan not gag for real when he pulled that wookie out of the sink? And that scene was improvised, wasn't it? The whole wookie scene was improvised. They had no idea you did it on the first take? Yeah, I was just supposed to pull the hair out, and then I did the whole, looks like a wookie, man.

You know, all that stuff. I mean, I remember actually, you know, I was there watching them shoot it that day. I actually remember it now. And I remember crying going, that is the funniest moment of the movie. That's one of the funniest moments. My favorite part with that hair clog, though, is initially they just wanted me to pull it out and leave it in the same. What they said. And then I had this real emotional scene with Heather Nauterano and she, what's her name?

What's her name? Heather Nostastrofus? What's the vampire? Heather Nostraferano. Mata Raza, you fuck. Oh, okay. Madarazzo, she's a good actress. She is.

I just can't pronounce her name. It's right there. I can't even say Massachusetts. Don't get offended by Harlan. Honestly, when I say he's not, he really just doesn't remember names. He still fucks my name up. But anyways, so I was supposed to put, there's a scene with Heather Nostromas, and she's all, like, upset, and she's crying, and so I was supposed to console her, and my

favorite part is I kept the hair clog in my hand, and as I'm touching her face, I like, rubbed it all over her face that was my favorite man funny where the hell can Gina from the block dough where the hell can she get this movie it's on iTunes you can buy it or you can buy the DVD for 40 cents really no I don't know how much it would cause did you keep anything from your wardrobe green eyes wide weed something I did I was going to wear it I kept I when we every time I do a movie first thing I do is I go to the prop master's trailer and I meet them and I look for something that I'm going to incorporate in the movie and when I went in there he had this little rubber if you watch the movie it's a little rubber like hula

girl that's like made out of rubber and it's supposed to go on your dash no way this is what I kept no way that was my sock hat that I kept on my wig no I still have the fucking sock hat that is so funny you know if I did have anything my wife probably made me throw it away because she hates all the stuff I've collected from all the stuff I've collected a lot of stuff I'm a bit of a game no I like to keep one thing from every production well if you look in the movie you'll see me wearing that

little rubber girl I've made a necklace out of it and I kept that I still have that and they didn't tell you you couldn't huh what do you mean Walladarsky didn't say get the rubber girl off no I kind of showed it to I just did it I didn't ask got your socks I know I know do you all respect the ladies in your life more after having to wear heels and do makeup. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How could you not, how could you not go through what we

went through every day with hours and hours of getting there beforehand and then, then having to take it off and become guy. I forget how we, did we, were we guys first and then girls? I think we were girls first and then we became guys, because it was easier for them to take off the girl makeup. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. We started out as girls in the morning and then sometimes we finished his guys. Yeah, so how could you not, I think, go through that and not, uh, have more I think as you get older, you start to realize, wow, they have periods every month. They give birth. Yeah.

Every month? Well, not, they don't give birth every month, but, and they have to, the waxing and the, it's just like, fuck off. Yeah, yeah. But the other side is that, to me, it was kind of fun, too. There was something about, it was almost like as a woman, it's almost like a superhero. You put this costume on every day. You know what I mean? And not only is it a costume, but it makes them look prettier, like the makeup,

and the eye shadow and they look like awesome so in a way it was I looked at it like that it was like this is a pain in the ass but it's it's kind of empowering it kind of like gives you this outer shell almost you know like a superhero costume I don't know why I had that reaction but I can understand

that there's something about like natural beauty too oh I love that like I love when when there's not all the makeup and there's not all the thing it's nice to have both it's nice to say hey this is fucking me like me like me or don't like me but this is what I look like in real life So do you want to be with this for the rest of your life? Because I'm not going to wear makeup for you every fucking day of the year.

Makeup's an art form. That's what I learned doing that show. I just thought, you know, I'll slap on some eyes and watermelon eye shadows, some pussy willow lipstick. And now, now it's like a, it's like an art. It's like a painting. Pre-menstrual red, garlic butter, ass cheek blue,

you know, whatever the hell is. Rainbow Blastcake, fucking toenail grease. What, how many? Anthony effect, which scene had the most takes Because no one could stop laughing Well, I'll tell you which scene had the most takes Because I couldn't get my fucking lines out Because I couldn't remember them

Which one was this? I, I remember you and I were We had to reshoot some stuff And I was doing Smallville And I came down for a day And I didn't learn my lines I just couldn't learn them or something And I had this one line

Then it was 17 takes I couldn't get it was when we were looking at dresses We're looking at dresses Oh yeah, yeah Yeah Do you remember? Yes, yes I couldn't get it out

No, at the at the mall or whatever Yeah Were you like oh my God No, I was just like Like, he's so Lex right now. This is how he is on small. Yeah. This is how he must be in small.

I could not get it out, though, man. God, yeah, I don't remember. I mean, we always did lots of different takes because I think there was, there was always different variations of stuff. But what do you remember, Barry? You were just like, oh, my God, this was the funniest moment. It all was. You know, you know what was so funny is, and it was cut out, but when we were doing, like,

the crouching tiger, hidden dragon wirework? Dildo fight. The dildo fight was, you know, not a lot of people. I don't think it was there. was that ever put into it like another version was the dildo fight in the movie i think the the dillda fight was in the movie but the part where we were on wires on wires was unbelievable i wish they would have kept they yeah they took that all out because and i found this out later they didn't want it in there because it it didn't seem realistic and i was like so the rest of

the movie does wow it's like if you put that and then it kind of almost adds to like of course this is not real exactly yeah we were like on wires fighting with dildos we had such a fun we had such a fun it we were shot at USC or something yeah we were You and I were, like, flying around the air outside one of the fraternies or sororities. Dildos? Oh, yeah. Being each other. That was, like, the extension of the dildo fight.

Yeah. Went all the way out, and we were flying across the air. It was a whole day's work. That's like the scene in the big Lebowski where he does the bowling, bowling alley dream sequence. Like, it would have been that kind of cool. Yeah, it cares, right? Yeah, it's a movie. That's why you make movies.

Yeah. Yeah, Roger Freeman. Roger E. Barf. He barf. I actually liked his review. I thought it was pretty right on. It was, I think it was smacked. It would make me want to go see it.

Yeah. It was a winner. It was a winner? Chrissy baby, Michael, was that really your fat ass and those tight-fitting skirts? No, they actually gave me a fake ass, remember? Yeah, I do. Wait, you know what? I think I remember somebody on Instagram or Twitter sending something about your butt and saying,

was it real. And I was like, no, I remember it was padded, right? But I have been working on my juicy butt lately. Yeah. Oh, gross. Yeah, I do. I work on my juicy butt. Well, how do you work on your juicy butt?

I do those things that I did in the movie. I do the little things where your knees. Oh, the clamshells. Clamshel. I tried to because my butt's not as great as I like to. Well, that's also not just good for your butt. It's good for your lower back and your, uh, say. Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah. Do you guys, have you, have, would you say sorority boys is your top three moments of your life, movies of your life that do to work on? For me, it was. Things of your projects, your top projects. For me, it was the funnest. Like, it was the most funniest, like I've had, and the most I've had bonded and had laughs with my cast, met my co-stars.

It was like, bar none, like, the most chemistry and, like, laughter and fun. The most fun. The most joy of any production I've been. Even though how hard it was to get waxed and shave a million times a day, it was still just such a blast to hang out with you guys. Well, you honestly disappointed when the movie came out

and it just, you remember this, though. We came out against Ice Age. We came out against E.T. Returns. They did a big 25th anniversary. Blade 2 had just come out All on the same weekend It's almost like they buried it purposely They buried Watsoned it

Yeah Yeah they bury Watson did for sure Do you think that the movie Would have had a better chance of it It had opened a different weekend Or do you think it was just one of those movies That just because it became a cult status It became the most aired on Comedy Central

For years and years to this day They constantly show that movie There's something about it That people find endearing and lovable About these characters But do you think Were you heard by it where you like uh well there's a history to it i talked to people behind the scenes and it might

have even been larry bresner i can't remember but the movie was distributed through touchstone yeah which is owned by disney and disney has never done an r-rated movie an r-rated comedy so so sorority boys was disney's first r-rated movie i believe ever and it was disney and so i remember hearing that the a lot of the people in disney didn't like it they put it, they put it, opening week, and it was put in all the Cineplexes, but each Cineplexes has a small theater, like there's different amounts of seats in every Cineplex. I was told that they put it in the theaters with the smallest amount of seats. So somebody somewhere.

Sabotized it. I don't know if they sabotage it, but I don't think they wanted to shine the, Disney wanted to shine the light on it or whoever wanted to shine the light on. Well, I think because it was rated R, I mean, that really limited the audience. that you're going to have come in. If it was PG-13, which there's probably ways that we could have got around certain things and still had it be the movie, hopefully we wanted it to be, with it being PG-13. But it didn't happen that way.

So you were upset by it? I was hurt because I thought, you know. I was hurt because what we've been talking about is how much fun we had. Right. If it was a big drag, no pun intended, if it sucks. If I was like, if I did the movie and it was just an awful experience, I really wouldn't have given a shit. But I think because I had so much fun on it. You're like, how could this not be good?

I had a lot of fun, but if I'm being completely honest, you know this. I don't think the movie's fun. I don't think it's a great movie. So if it had been a great, if I watched the movie and went, oh, my God, this is like amazing. And then it bombed, I'd be depressed. But because I don't think it was like a great movie and it didn't do great, I was like, okay, it is what it is. You know, you always want your work and your movies to do better. But I wasn't surprised and therefore I wasn't disappointed.

pointed but what i'm shocked that you didn't think it was a good movie i didn't think it was a great i'm it wasn't it wasn't great it was it was just it was kind of like average but i think if you read this script you would have known that now there's a good point yeah see if you actually read this good point i should have you would have known like hey this could be something fun but i will say this this is what upset me you're why there's a movie that came out recently or no right after sorority boys and it was called white girls or something yeah and it was black guys playing white girls That was way later. I think my buddy Lachlan's in that.

Yeah, and it killed. People loved it. And I was just like, how did our movie fucking? Our movies was just as fucking funny as that movie. Yeah. Period. That's how I felt. That's the one thing where my ego was like, dude, our movie is as funny as that was.

Was it rated R or PG-13? I don't know that answer. But there was some things were, oh, it's PG-13. There you go. We were R and it fucked us. You're right, Barry. It screwed us. And I knew that when they first gave us the R, I'm like, man, they got to edit

it and make it PG-13 where we're fucked. I just knew it. I didn't think that's true. And I think also if you watch it objectively, like Harlan, I know you're critical and there's like, but if you just watch it as a movie just to sit back and have a laugh It's to me, I think it's a really funny movie. And I genuinely

feel like people really love this movie. That's why you guys are here. Yes. You're here not only because I love seeing you, but you're here because enough people over the years I go to these conventions for Smallville and Justice League, and they come up to me about sorority boys and they want pictures and they when's the reunion and I saw it. I'm like, how do people like this movie that much?

And it went on for so many years and they showed all the time. And people just genuine that I said, you know what, there is something special about this movie. Just because a movie bombs. Yeah. It, you know, it was a lemon. It bombed. But it doesn't mean it wasn't a fun. Dude, there's an audience for every movie. Every movie is a lot of work. It's a lot. But there's always someone out there that goes, wow, this, I love this for whatever reason. And with seven billion people on the planet, there's going to to be, you know, 16,000 that likes sorority boys.

16,000. Jesus. Jesus. So, Harlan, what are you doing now? I think I'll go over to Arby's and get a cheta twirl. Dude,

does Arby still, is there, is there meat still made out of liquid? Yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. It's refrigerated liquid

zebra bloat. You're on the row, you're doing stand-up. Where are you going? Where am I heading? I'm heading to stand-up live in Phoenix, Arizona,

the middle of May. I'll be there, too. Will you? He's going to open for you? I'm opening for Harland. Oh, good. Michael opened for me last year. I know I really wanted to be there.

That was fun. He'd never been on stage. I bring him out to Oxnard to the stand-up live club Saturday night, sold out. And we've been talking about him doing it for years. I love Oxnard. Finally got his courage up and he went out and he did better in his first like 15 minutes than I've seen most guys doing their first. three years.

Were you surprised by that? Are you kind of... I wasn't surprised, but I knew Michael had it in him, but that first time doing Stenna, it's a different beast, so I didn't know if he'd have the technical notes to hit it, but he hit it, man. He really, he really... Thanks, Har. I already told you this, you know.

Wow. Yeah, but I haven't heard this. I know, I like hearing it over and over. You do. I haven't seen you guys. I'll leave it on your voicemail later. You will. You know, because this is me catching up with you guys since I've had cancer, so this is a whole...

Barry, you've been over. By the way, you're cancer-free for a long time now. Yeah, yeah. Now, do you do anything differently? Were you smoking a lot when you got cancer? And that wasn't the cause of cancer, wasn't? No, no, no, no, no. And I don't smoke.

And, um, no, yeah, I've been cancer free since 2000, October, end of October 2002. Are you very healthy? Do you have a different lifestyle? Dude, look at him. I try to, you know, I've got kids. I got to be in shape for them. I can't just be like some lazy-ass dad. Do you work out a lot?

I do a lot of, I, I do yoga. and I swim And you swim You have a pool You have a pool I saw the picture Yeah yeah And I swim

And I just yeah I move around I walk I ride my bike wherever I go You guys want to stretch it out After the par Yeah I'd love to stretch it out

Yeah And what are you up to you right now Let's have a sorority stretch What's going on with you right now Well I'll be in Scottsdale Arizona Oh yeah Bro Nice callback

I've actually I've been riding a little bit I've been writing this half-hour comedy I've been working on for, like, the last couple years, and so I'm still working on that. Do you need a couple of actors for it, bro? I do. Actually, I do need you, Harlan, because when I wrote this one character, I have you in mind. Okay, well, send me the script, and I won't read it.

Yeah, I know, exactly. No, no, no. And by the way, whenever it has that character, there's no lines. Just make them up. It's just, Harlan will just make it up. Harlan. Finally. Finally, my dream role.

So I've been working on that night. I fired my manager a couple months ago, so I got a new manager. I did that, too. I just got new headshots yesterday. Have you had new headshots in a long time? It's been a couple years, but I may do it. I actually just did for the podcast.

We're changing our whole image in our artwork. So I haven't had headshot since 2007, I found out. You're a successful guy. You didn't need it. Well, yeah. I said, well, what's the hurry now? I haven't had him for 11 years. So I wouldn't did that.

It made me feel really, I don't know. You still talk to Jessica Beal at all? We, I, yeah. Yeah, we all, we still sort of all get together every now and then. Are you serious? Beverly Mitchell is kind of like the one that keeps that all, you know, she plans stuff and puts us all together sometimes. That's nice.

And you still like to do that, have a little dinner. No, and, you know, besides you guys, I love that group. That was like a big family for me. Yeah, because I think, I feel like I've always felt like you're a, this is a compliment, you're a hard person to sort of get attached to or for you to get attached to others in a sense that you don't just like I'm a social guy I have a lot of friends I you know do a lot of things you're kind of a family guy and you have your certain select group of friends that you do hang out with every once in a while and I'm proud to call you a friend but I feel like that's you know

you're just kind of a low key kind of private guy yeah yeah kind of I don't but you know I like to have friends and it's good to see you guys but family but family is a really important thing to me like you know my work is important I I take it seriously when I need to but I I take my family life and my kids, you know, that's the serious stuff of my life. And, you know, all this other stuff that we get to do as actors. It's just like, how lucky are we? Who helps the kids with math? I do.

You do? I do. Yeah, my wife, my wife is awful. She's not good with studies? No, she's, no, she's better with the reading and comprehension. That sounds like, which is interesting because you think I would be okay with that. Oh, yeah, I'm not good with that. Yeah, but math, yeah, I'm the math guy.

Numbers. You're the math guy. Arnold. What would you teach your kid if you had a good? kid. Yeah, why don't you have a kid? Probably celery. You teach the kid's celery. Of course. How do you not have a child? I want to. I just have to find a good woman, but I haven't. Do you have a girlfriend right now? I don't. Why not? I was married once, as you know. I mentioned

that at the horse, but I thought you didn't want to talk about it. I don't, but I'm saying I tried it once. If I found the right, if I can find the right person, I get some tough guy to kind of, you know. Why can't you get close with a lady friend? Why can't you get close with a lady friend? I can, but I'm just, I'm a complicated guy. And so there's a lot of different, I'm like a lasagna guy. You know, there's a lot of layers. Or I'm just simple and I'm an idiot. Maybe I don't know what I am. I think, you know, it's just, you're just an Arby's.

You're a perfectionist. You're looking for the perfect woman and she's not out there. There's no perfect guy. There's no perfect girl. I know that. No, I just want someone that I can, I can just run with and run at the same speed and be a team. And that's, I think that's the key. And I know sometimes one person gets a little ahead and a little, but I want to just be.

You need somebody to compliment. I want someone to just be in the race with And I don't want to be ahead of them Or them ahead of me Because then you're not compatible But don't you think that you can be compatible With maybe ones behind in certain aspects of their life And the others that

Then that person compliments them That's what I want But but I've My relationships I think have tended to be like One person's way up here And the other one's way back And I can't get that kind of up and down rhythm type of thing

You need to move out of Hollywood I do I do. You need to move out of Hollywood. You got a guest house, bro. He's got a beautiful house. Yeah, I'm not going to tell you where he lives. Oh, I already said that.

We could say you live in Venice. Yeah, I live in Venice. Or Santa Monica or Malibu. The west side. You know, somewhere out there. Yeah, you live in South Central. You live in Laurel Canyon. I got a new place in South Central, dude.

I just like the word. It's South because I love the warm weather, but it's central. And so I got a place and I'm learning my drive-by skills, and it's really fun. So Harlan and I use a blow. dart. Arlen has taken me to the Amazon. He took me to Burning Man. This year. You got to get in on there.

Well, I wanted to go to the Amazon with you guys. What? Yeah, yeah, we were talking last year. And I was like, oh, you should have come. You guys went over my son's birthday and I couldn't, I couldn't leave. Yeah, you were thinking about it. Because it was May. I was like, we should go back.

It was, that's where I want to go because you said, hey, buddy, I'm doing a stand up in Lebanon. This is true. I am. I go, why the fucker? Who's going to. laugh at your jokes in Lebanon. Then you're going to Vietnam.

Oh, I'd go to Vietnam. And I'm like, and I'm like fucking bum, because I was supposed to pick the trip and he's going to Vietnam without me. No, I invited you to Cal. I don't want to go to Vietnam. It's my choice. I wanted to go somewhere else. The years early.

You wanted to go to Lebanon? No, I don't want to go to either of those places. We can still, I told you, pick another spot. We're not even halfway through the year. We'll have a Barry pick. Maybe Barry will go with us. Maybe we'll go back to the Amazon and high water, low water. Wait, hold on.

When you guys did the Amazon, were you, you guys just, did a cruise through the Amazon? It was like a little cruise, five-day cruise, and we stop off and go through the jungle, and it was just amazing. It was like a main boat, and then they had little power boat, so you'd just cruise up the river all day and night, and then they'd stop, and you'd go up the tributaries. Because I think I was, you guys send some stuff on Instagram or something like that. Oh, yeah. We had an Anacomba's around our neck. I was very jealous. I showed the pictures to my son. I was like, yeah, yeah, this is what I'm missing for your stupid-ass birthday kid. Yeah, a little shit.

Is that Oliver? A little sorority boy. Well, look, this has been, this has been awesome. This has been a lot of fun for me. And I hope you guys had fun because this is like, look, again, this is. I miss you guys. I miss you, too. I really, really miss you guys.

Well, look, it's easy, Barry. It sucks that it had to be this podcast for me to see you guys again. Well, no, we tried for like a year to do a dinner because I've texted you and I'm like, let's do it. And we even set up some dates, but they fell through. So we've been trying, but not as hard as we could. But you know what? Yeah, I got to tell you. I got to say that.

And just because I'm a dad, I know you miss me, I know you miss me, blind, miss you. Boy, George. By the way, as I get older, like, I'm single, and I got a dog. Wait, I'm single. Yeah, I know. What do you do? You want to hit Arby's? I can, I can, but I get it, Barry.

I get it. It's like, you know, when you want to hang, you let us know, because your schedules, when you have a family, it's always harder. You always have the benefit of the house, you know. Invite us for a swim or go to the, go to your house. We'll have like a little. Yeah, that sounds. Great, come for a swim. Ew, creep show.

Why not? Just like you wanted us to come for a shower today? Oh, gross. Speaking of kids, I never got, I never even talked to you about the father from seventh heaven. Oh, God, I'm so glad. Aren't you glad we didn't talk about that? Oh, my God. Was that the most shocking thing you ever heard?

You know, nothing shocks me, man. But that had to shock you. He played like such a priest, and that had to shock you. And, you know, we were all so close. So, sure, I, that whole thing was, um. Were you hurt? Were you, uh. Yeah. For those of you didn't know, briefly just sum up.

Yeah. So, you know, Stephen's wife, you know, could put him on tape and got him to talk about some things that he did. Pedophilia. Pedophilia years past and stuff like that. And he admitted to it. And he admitted it to it. But it hurt because, you know, that was such a huge part of my life. He was like almost like your dad. God, I mean, more like a big brother in a lot of ways. And you didn't suspect anything. There was no, no signs of anything. No, no. I mean, you know, he'd always talk about. women I was dating and stuff like that.

They were younger, but it was just sort of like, you know, asking how it was going or... Is he in jail? No, no, no, no, no. He didn't go to jail or anything for that. No, no, I think he's been practicing meditation and he's just working on himself. Right.

Because they've talked about doing a seventh heaven reboot for a while, but if they ever did it, it wouldn't involve... Yeah, he wouldn't. Either parent, it would be all about the kids, I guess. Yeah, yeah, but... They were really thinking about a reboot. Would you do a reboot for seventh heaven? But people ask me, would you do a little bit for small, but I'm like, where we're old, I don't know how they do it.

I don't know. If it was put together in the right way, yeah, I would, I would be interested in doing that and hanging out with all those kids. The question is, would you do a reboot for a hundred grand a week? That's what you want to ask them in the answers. Yeah. Okay. You were probably the highest paid on the WB at the time, right? I think all the actors on the 7th heaven were, because we were the first show on the WB. I mean, it was, we were like kind of like the flagship show. So I would do it again if Harlan played the father. Yeah, okay. I'm old enough now. If Harlan was Reverend Camden? Get out there and clean the lawn, you little bastards,

and make me some coleslaw, fat face. And pray to Christ, you son of a. Play to Christ, you dirty, fat piece of turn. Suck the mushrooms off your feet and pull the fucking pringles out of your ass. I'd rather find a way for us to do a show together. We should try to do something. You know, if we could have a show that could last for like five,

Five years. Wouldn't that be great? Because when you get to be our age, it's just kind of like you, don't you want to just like, have fun? You want to have fun. Yeah.

I honestly just want to have fun. If somebody's like, hey, you want to do this new series? And it's, it's going to be fun? You know who else wants to have fun? Girls. Sorority girls.

Thank you so much for coming. Would you like to say anything that your fans out there to, and what's your Twitter handle and your Instagram? All my social media, I believe, is under at Real Barry Watson. At Real Barry Watson.

at Harland Williams. I'm at Michael, at Michael Rosenbaum on Twitter and the Michael Rosenbaum on Instagram. Anything you want to say to those fans of supporters of sorority boys in your career is just anything like... Just want to say, you know, when we talked about the cancer with Barry and we were all... No, we were all really happy that you made it through it. We were all... I was praying for you. That was a tense moment, and when you got the green light that everything was clear, it made my heart shine.

and I'm glad every, that was a soft side of harm. I know, can you believe that you really got inside of him? Ouch, it hurts. I love you. I love you, I love you guys. And I truly mean that. Yeah, I love you too, though. And I'm happy that we got together.

And it was one of the most, if I look back, it's probably one of the most glorious times of my life, those three months just hanging out with you guys and just enjoying life, wanting to be an actor and like, this is what it was like. This is what it was supposed to be in your dreams, in your head. Going, you know, in college, I remember just going, I want to be an actor. And being on a set was like, oh, my God, is it all. Is it all like this? We had three months to be movie stars together.

Well, yeah, well, just pals. It was like pals. It was, man. Pousy dog pals. Whoops. Oh, we're puppy dog pals. Oh, yeah. That's a new show.

Yeah, wait, hold on a second. That's a different show. No, you got to give it. Talk about it for a second. No, I just said it as a show. By the way, my daughter will die if I don't come on the show. Everybody loves this show. Harlan is a creator.

My friend Dax, Shepard just texts me him and Kristen Bell and their kids watch his show. Puppy dog. pals. It's on Disney Jr. It's a smash hit. Check it out. You know, keep listening to the podcast. You know, by popular demand, this is why we did sorority boys. Got some other great guests coming up. And thanks so much for joining us. Miss you. I know you miss me. I love you, I know. I know. What was that? Nothing. I didn't hear that. from the sorority boys to all our sorority fans out there

lots of love oh favorite line favorite line that you said mine was mother's ass mother's ass what was mine I was like someone get the giant

called the gentle giant you know what I don't know if I don't think Daisy had any of the good ones you're a bit of the straight man but you had some funny shit with the boner and stuff but I'm trying to think of your lines

I don't know bad dog bad dog when he brings back the wrong anyway that wasn't the best line wasn't the best one it's funny I remembered it might have been the worst line bro oh thanks that was the that was my worst line yeah bad dog way to go bro sorority boys forever thanks both of you for allowing me to be inside of you hey Michael anytime it's been too long harlan stretch it bro sorority stretch coming up

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