Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Walker’s JARED PADALECKI: Humbling Self Deprecation

Episode Date: May 24, 2022

Jared Padalecki (Walker, Supernatural) returns this week to share the challenges of transitioning into Walker and out of Supernatural all the while wanting to retire from being on screen entirely. Jared gets candid about his work ethic and attributes it to the guilt he felt after an embarrassing story during his time on the Gilmore Girls. We also talk about upcoming prequels, having Jensen Ackles direct an episode of Walker, and why he needs to pour himself into every character he portrays. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's my point of you. You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. Yeah, dog. What's up, brother? All right, you're in, you're in, you're always in Texas. I'm, these days, yeah. I mean, last time we chatted, at least on a podcast, I was in Vancouver in my little

thermo blanket. That's true. How far away from home do you film? It depends. our studios are kind of at like 51st street and 35 which about 20 minutes but we go all over the place we go to like tripping springs and round rock and fast drop so within an hour but i'm home yeah for all the good and bad that that entails yeah seriously because you weren't used to that for so many years where you were so far away from home you had to move your life so is it is it is it way easy

you're having your life all there or is there more distractions man it is so much harder it is right you can't focus dude if i if i if i got dude do you want to start are we started yeah yeah okay if i if i get home or when i got home from supernatural if it was like 6 p.m and i was tired i would like have a beer and go to bed now if i get home at 6 and i'm exhausted it's like dad Dad, dad, dad, dad. As a matter of fact, my daughter, my youngest, it's her fifth birthday today. So happy birthday, Odette. Odette, happy birthday.

She's at soccer camp. So I have a little window to not be, you know, loving all over. But, yeah, so these days, I go home and I'm like, I want to go to bed. And all the kids are like, Dad, come play basketball. Dad, come for a walk. Dad, go to the mailbox with us. Dad, I'm like, I just want to do. die.

So it's good. I mean, like, but then I'll have short days or days off and then, you know, get to sleep in a little bit and kind of tick his school and all the stuff. So you're an executive producer on the show? Yeah. On Walker. And you're also going to be an executive producer on the prequel. Yeah.

So with Walker, that was something that I kind of, I kind of. I don't want to say I thought of it, because, you know, no one does it alone. But that was something that I was literally in my trailer, I think, season 14 of Supernatural, so the penultimate season for a vocab word. And I was like, I had read some article about some law enforcement official on the border. It was kind of during all the stuff where there was migration kind of into the states. and people were getting engaged. And I read an article by somebody anonymous, like an op-ed.

And they were talking about, like, they ended up in one scenario, they're doing the job. They're bound by law and by duty. But they saw like a three-year-old boy or something, and they had a three-year-old boy. And they were like, I can't do this. I can't do this anymore. And so they went and gave their badge and their gun to the captain. I was like, you know, I may be court-martial. I may be whatever, lose my pension,

but I can't put a three-year-old in a cage and take him away from his dad. And it really intrigued me. And so then I was like, well, what about, like, I wanted to hear more of the story, you know? Right. And so then Walker was kind of, that was kind of the inception. And then we went to Anna Fricky,

who is married to Jeremy Carver, who ran Supernatural for a couple years. And I knew her as a friend. And I was like, well, is Anna available? I feel like she could do the best job. And she was available and she was with CBS. And she is doing the best job. And so it kind of all fell into place.

So you were thinking of doing Walker. It was already in motion before Supernaturally even ended. Yeah. I mean, it was. it was kind of a funny sure so God's honest truth when I was thinking about

Walker because I I feel like a liar or I feel like I look like a liar because I I said this many times during Supernatural and I meant it like I want to retire man like I don't want to be on camera again I don't want to do fittings

and have pictures taken to me and so I was literally like on the way out and when I I started developing Walker, my pitch, unbeknownst to him, but my pitch was that Jensen was going to be Walker. And I was like, well, he's in Texas. Like, he's a good actor. Like, he likes riding horses.

So you didn't really have any thoughts that I'm going to do this. Somebody else is going to do this. Yeah. Yeah. Well, no, no. I thought I was going to do this as far as like, I'll be involved in every script, all the casting. Right, right.

The micro and micro storylines, the tropes, this and that. but I didn't want to be on camera and I don't want to be on camera but wait a minute wait a minute hang on a second I'm a little lost you you're on the show now and it's season two and you're the lead

but you don't you'd rather not act anymore you sort of want to retire yeah yeah which is which is why it was kind of a funny conversation with CW I almost was trying to negotiate myself out of a deal I was like well you know

because Mark, who, you know, who's an amazing man, it was like, well, you know, if you want to come back into the fold, then, like, shoot me a holler. And I was like, well, you know, I mean, frankly, I live in Austin. It'd have to be in Austin. He's like, I understand that. And I was like, okay. Well, you know, like I would need to be involved creatively, not just saying the word. that are written on the page, but, like, directing the storyline. He was like, absolutely.

You've done 400 episodes of television. I was like, shit. Well, you know, I would need like a day or two off every episode. He was like, of course, we want you to be with your family. I was like, Jesus Christ, I can't, I can't negotiate myself out of this deal. Oh, my God. Yeah. And I couldn't be more proud of Walker, man.

I'm so proud of our show. It's a show for everybody. and so that's kind of how this happened. And now I'm in. Now I'm all in, man. I'm all in on Walker. We have that people coming out, which has been a series of like Zooms and whatnot

over the last couple of weeks, which has been awesome. I just saw our girl, our girl Catherine McNamara is going to be involved in that. Yes. Do you know her? Yeah, of course.

She's been on the podcast. She's going to come back and talk about it. Amazing. Yeah. She seems lovely. So who's, who's she playing? She's playing number one on the call sheet. She's number one on the call sheet playing which character?

She is playing the first Walker in the state of Texas is probably all I can say, shit. I hope I'm not getting in trouble. No, I don't think so. That's pretty badass. Yeah, yeah. She seems awesome, man. I don't know her well. I know we've kind of crossed paths.

Well, didn't you help make that decision? I'm EP, dude. Well, that's what I'm saying. So then you didn't really know her, but you knew of her work. I mean, you didn't meet with her. It's a weird world right now where we did our, we did our background checks, you know what I mean? Like, we had dozens of young actresses come in for the role. And as it got whittled down, we obviously made phone calls and checked and like, hey, is this person like decent?

are they good and Catherine has like the best reputation I've ever heard anybody has it's unbelievable background checks on everybody yeah yeah she's unbelievable but she seems like a million bucks man I can't wait to get to know her more and I think she's awesome she is she's beautiful inside out she you look at her like oh my god she's stunning but then you're like you meet her and you're like yeah yeah so that's amazing so what how did it start I mean I you told me how it started, but, you know, you're thinking of retiring. You've done 400 episodes of television with Supernatural. You're not wanting to...

Gilmore, don't forget the Gilmore. Jesus, man. Like, give me some credit, man. I give you too much credit, bro. I give you too much. No, but like what made you go, Walker's the thing for me right after Supernatural? Because you probably got a lot of offers and people wanted you for like a lead on other shows, no?

Nope. No? Well, I mean, like, I'm sure I had auditions available. What I love, loved and love about supernatural, it was, we always felt like we were like the little engine that could kind of thing. Like, we were never getting 10 million viewers, you know, but we'd get a million and then it would go to 3 million or something. You know, like people were finding it and going like, damn, this show is pretty good. And we were like, we know. Like, we're working our escap.

And so it was more, that was more like word amount kind of fandom than sort of like, well, hey, there's a billboard on every street corner and every neighborhood about, you know, real housewives of this or that or whatever. And so with Walker, it honestly became, for me, at least, and everybody had a different experience with it. But for me, it was sort of like, all right, well, let's give it a shot. And it was in the midst of pandemic. I mean, our first podcast together was, what, August or September of 2020. Probably. We started shooting like two months later.

and a lot of the world wasn't shooting yet and so my initial kind of motivation as far as filming was like I want my fellow Texans and Austinites Austonians to be able to pay their mortgage like let's tell a cool story and Anna Fricky and James Kevin Fahey

and their whole gang and cadre wrote an awesome story and we have awesome action actions and I was like well let's let's do it Like, we'll see what happens. Who knows where the world's going. I don't know if this is a Spanish flu or if this is a common cold, but let's just, you know, keep on trucking on.

It was almost like, you ever see Titanic? Yeah? Okay. Take it easy. You know, like when the band realized the ship is sinking. And they keep playing? Yeah. Yeah.

It was a bit of that sense set wide. on a Walker set, where it's like, all right, well, we might get a phone call tomorrow saying we're shut down for a week or two weeks. And we did get those phone calls. And we might get a phone call tomorrow that person A or B or C tested positive for COVID. Yeah. And we got for a week. And we did get those phone calls.

And so we were sort of just like, all right, well, let's just try and still provide entertainment. Let's still tell stories. Let's still try and provide joy however we can. And so we kept trucking along. and then ended up doing a season television that I couldn't be more proud of, man. And that's weird for me to say, like, I'm my own biggest critic, but I'm so proud of Walker, you know? I'm so proud of it.

And also being intimately involved as an executive producer and seeing all the work that everybody's doing and going like, okay, now we have 42 minutes of television with 18-minute commercials. And I, like, all the gears are clicking. you know inside of you is brought to you by rocket money i'm going to speak to you about something that's going to help you save money period it's rocket money it's a personal finance app that helps find and cancel your unwanted subscriptions monitors your spending and helps lower your bills so you can grow your savings this is just a wonderful app there's a lot of apps out there that

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season, the first season, it was just a lot, like it was overwhelming for you. There was just so much work. Yeah. And dealing with your, did they, did you kind of like cater towards your needs and like to make it so you're fresh, you feel like you're alive on set, you feel like you're enjoying it so you're not overworked? Did that kind of get into the

conversations? Yeah, yeah, for sure, man. They take great care of me. Our line producer and our onset producer, John Patterson, C. Robin, they fight really hard to make sure that, you know, my days are condensed. Like, I'm not first up and last up, and then waiting around my trailer for all day off. And so logistically, this may be boring, but logistically, they've made it like they're treating me like a king, you know what I mean? And I'm grateful. And I'm grateful. And And I want to give that back to them and go like, all right, I will give you everything I have because y'all are already giving me everything you have. It's still a lot. Like, I'm still tired.

I'm still sort of like. How many pages do you have to memorize a week? Let's say there's 45, 50 pages. How many do you learn? How many are you in? You're Walker. A lot, you know. And you know this very well.

Like sometimes there's a day of stunts and it's two pages because there is going to be a six-hour stunt scene or whatever. And then some days there's eight pages. I will say that I'm kind of a funny. I don't know if funny. Maybe I should take that back. I'll take that back. I'll retract.

I, I, like, I don't know how you feel about this. But like when people say like, oh, you're an actor, you must be a great liar. Like for me, I kind of bristle a little bit. And I'm like, I'm not lying. Like, I'm going through something. Like, I, as an actor, my job is not to lie. It's to tell the truth.

It's not my truth, but my job is to tell the truth, unless my character is lying. Right, right, right, right. Unless I'm not a rascal or something, and my job is to be two-faced. And so I do a lot of work outside of set before the world wakes up and after they go to sleep and all this stuff.

So my thing is that, like, I want to almost be indoctrinated to whatever character I'm playing. Like, I want to read it over and over again and read it when I'm walking and read it when I'm on the treadmill and read it when I'm in bed and read it when I'm on the couch and kids watching TV or something

until I get to the point where, like, I'm on set and I'm just telling the truth because I know that truth now. almost like I've been indoctrinated to use the same word. Yeah. And so I do a lot of work. I know you do a lot of work. And I know, like, I just saw this article come up on Twitter today. And it was, I guess, it was that whole Gilmore Girls thing where you're out with your buddies one night and you're partying. And for some reason, Lauren from Gilmore

Graham got sick. They had to switch scenes around. And so paint that picture exactly what happened. this kind of got your work ethic to where it is now in a way, right? Yeah, literally it was sort of like one of these, one of these situations where on Gilmer Girls, I think I was number 12 or 15 or something on the call sheet, depending on whether it was season one or five or anything in between. And I think I was filming, like, just as an example. I don't remember the exact details, but I wasn't filming for several more days. And then we all stayed up.

And it was pretty, I was going to say, like, we were, we were, you know, having a crazy time. It was like me and my buddies, like, playing Grand Theft Auto that had just come out. And I had one of those big old, I think, like, one of the first things I bought on Gummore Girls was one of those giant TVs that weighs as much as a car and takes up a giant amount of space for those people who were born before 2000. They used to be giant. And it was like plasma. And I had PS3 or PS2 or PS1. whatever was, and we had Grand Theft Auto, and so we'd sit there and play. I had, like, my puppy and this and that.

And so we had stayed up, like, playing games, ordering Papa John's, and probably, like, drinking Coors Light or some redneck stuff. It was, like, a lot of Texans also. And so then went to bed around whatever time. Didn't go nuts. We weren't, like, drinking booze, like, taking whiskey shots. Right. But we're, like, drinking beer and stand-up late.

And then I had a puppy at the time, Sadie, Sadie Girl, who passed away. And Cota, who you met last time, he had surgery, so he's not here right now. Otherwise, I bring him in for a cameo. Anyways, I'll get back around. No, I like it. I like it. So, like, went to bed, and I had gone to Home Depot and bought, like, plywood and sod and, turf, and I had made this like four by two.

My daddy and I had made this four by two, like little pee place for Sadie to go to the bathroom on my balcony because I lived on the third floor of 4301 Fulton for, I don't live there anymore, but 4301 Fulton, so it was like two blocks up from Casabega. Right, right on the little. No exactly where that is, yep. Yeah. And my neighbor, yeah, anyways. And you're close to work, by the way.

That's relatively 10 minutes away from work. Dude, I was down Riverside or Moore Park. Yeah, I was right there. Right there. It was 15 minutes in L.A. And so I had left the screen door open to the balcony going like, okay, she kind of knew. And there's like some spray that smells like urine, I guess. But you spray it where you want your dog to pee.

So like if you live in an apartment in New York or, L.A. or San Francisco, then they're like, well, this is like the thing that you can do to make your dog pee here because they smell urine. They want to pee, I guess. This is kind of disgusting. I'm sorry. It's educational. So I had that stuff and like sprayed it. And I was like, okay, I'll leave this, I'll leave this door open. And then all of a sudden I'm woken up at like eight in the morning. My buddy Jordan, what's up, Jordan? My dear friends stood my wedding. And he's like, hey man they need you on set and i was like this isn't a funny joke like well leave me alone you're like turning over the pillow and he's like no no they like uh spillo called me who's my

my manager of proofs partner uh dan spillo and he's like no they they've been calling and i was like what are you talking about i got my phone which probably like a not even a motor roll razor it would have been whatever the little small phones were right nokea Nokia Nokia probably Nokia. Nokia? No, Nokia, you said. And I had a bunch of missed calls and voicemails and texts. Right. And I was like, oh, Jesus. And so I get up. And then I find out the story. But, you know, at the time, you're 20. And so a cold shower and a cup of coffee, you're like, all right, we're running a marathon or what? But it was the worst feeling. It was like the classic, like, naked school trope or whatever.

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You're getting on set. You're kind of like, it just was really uncomfortable for you. It was more than uncomfortable, man. Like it was, it was scarring, frankly. Like PTSD, not like legit PTSD, but it was like it stays with me to this day. What was it? Was it embarrassing because you didn't know your lines or? no man like everybody on set was kind and gracious and they knew me and I knew I could do a good

enough job I suppose um not really being prepared but I just felt like I was being an asshole like I felt like I was as nice as everybody was being I felt like they must hate my guts like here I am some 19 year old kid showing up probably smell like cores light um and they have family. I didn't have family, you know, like, well, I had family, but I didn't have kids or a spouse right, right, right. But I just felt like, man, I, like, these people's time is valuable. And here I come showing up. And you can't explain to 100 people like, hey, here's the deal. I didn't know. I thought I was going to work in three days from now. I'm sorry. They don't care. They don't care, right? You, they probably don't care. But also, you don't have the time to go around to every person and say,

like listen, this sounds like an excuse. It's not like it's a legit story. Like I woke up after four hours of sleep to find out I was working today, not four days from now. And so I just was mortified. And I felt like I let, I felt like I let people down. And they were all super gracious about it. Like they were all like, hey, we're all doing different things that we thought we were going to do today. And so I was like, all right, they were very gracious. And that was a a teaching moment for sure. But, yeah, I informed who I am now. And now, like, my, my, my, work ethic?

Yeah, I was kind of laughing, because I wanted to say, like, it doesn't speak to my ability to, like, it's not, like, if I don't do a good job, it's not because I haven't done the work. It's because I don't have the talent. It's kind of humbling. It's humbling self-deprecation right there. If I ever mess up a scene, it's not because I don't know the scene.

It's because I don't have the talent. So you're not the kind of actor that can just walk on set, learn lines in the trailer. You're not doing that. I don't know, man. I've never tried. I don't want to try it. You know all your lines, but when you come on set, you know every line of the script.

I know I realize his lines but here's here's something I went through in high school I did well in school I you know my mother's teacher retired my father's an accountant and uh like they were both academic and

and I sort of like found pride or found some joy and going like I didn't read the book I just read the Cliffs notes and I'm going to get a good grade on the test and then about a year into that I was like I'm just I'm just like hurting myself.

Like I, by trying to shortcut my way into getting an A on the test, I'm only taking away my own experience reading this wonderful author's words and experiencing it as they wrote it. And so it was kind of that experience. So it's not that I don't want to, it's not to like to prove a point of like, I'm sure I can go on set tomorrow when I film tomorrow. I'm sure I could go on set at Walker and read my scene for the first time and do a decent enough job. But I'm only stealing from me.

Like, and I like to, when I'm going to set, I like to have a good time. Like, I like to go in the scene and go like, I know my words. I know the fundamentals. And if you don't, you're stressing and it's like a different vibe. It's a different feeling for you. But also, but also it's kind of comically, it's you're only hurting yourself, man, because you're not able to. really get into fine little nooks and crannies that you don't find when you're reading it in your couch or in your bed or something. And so I realized that I was just kind of like cutting

them off my own nose to spot my face. Yeah. I was like, all right, well, I'm going to do all the work so that when I get set, I'm just ready to play and like have a good time and enjoy the people. You know what? I do that too. I don't want to go on set and all of a sudden they surprise me with something. I want no surprises. I want to know that I'm prepared for every scene that they want to shoot in that script and that's hard but but you're the lead role so that's a lot of time that you're taking to learn these scripts and then you get another script in next week do you have someone who's running lines with you does your wife help you or do you just do it on your own I'm a I'm a loner man I mean like if I wasn't an actor I like I always say I'd want to be like

a wildlife photographer in Africa I'm not kidding like I'm a I'm a big like I'm in my house right now like I don't go out. I love, I don't like people, but I love good people. That makes any sense. And so I don't want to be around the masses. I was never the guy who knew what the hot club was in L.A. and all that. And not that there's anything wrong with those people by any means. I just, that's not the way I'm wired.

I'm wired to kind of like be alone and beat myself up a little bit. And that's probably not great. But I'm just wired to go like, okay, I want to do the best I can. And, like, I'm not, what's funny is that, like, I'm a competitive person, but not with you. Not with anybody else. I'm competitive with myself. So I compare myself to other versions of myself. If you, if I do my best and you do your best and you win chess or basketball or whatever,

then I'm like, cool, I did my best. But if I feel like I haven't done my best, then I dwell on it, man. It's not good. But now I'm dealing with it. Can you watch yourself? Do you watch yourself and can you appreciate it or are you one

and that's just like too critical? I didn't watch supernatural when it was on. I wouldn't watch the live airing unless it was like

Jensen and I were on set and we'd go to his trailer and watch it and live tweet or something with Walker I do because of my capacity as EP. Right.

So I have to give notes and like hey let's let's draw this fight scene out or hey I I think we have a cut, and so, but it's, it's, when I watch it, it's very mathematical. It's very sort of like, it's critical, not necessarily negatively critical, but it's more like, okay, we need this cut to be this.

Can we think about act four ending the scene prior because it cuts the flow? So it becomes very, it's very mathematical, which kind of the way I think. Like, I don't think I'm an artist. I think I'm a craftsman, you know? Because I think of things in a certain structure. Right. And so I do watch Walker and I watch it with my kids, you know, like if they're home and awake on a friend's house, then we'll sit down and watch it on Thursdays, which is great because on Supernatural, you know, which I love them, art. But I'm like cutting somebody's head off or getting my head cut off or something.

Right, right. It wasn't something you want to show the kids at like 8.30 p.m. And then they're like, okay, go to bed. It would have felt a little wanted. I mean, because Jansen always came on set and pretty much learned the lines there, right? In the trailer? Yeah, yeah. His, we have kind of opposite.

Work ethics. No, no, no, no. He works hard as fuck. Well, yeah, I'm not saying he didn't work hard, but like to say that you just dissect everything and just really do all the work at home. Yeah, I would say, I would say he and I have kind of polar opposite. methods. Because his work ethic is legendary. Like he, he works as hard as somebody can work on something. He just does it in a different way. You know? Right, right, right. Um, so he, he would say, and you know, like, I have to take his word for it. Like, we live together for a while,

but yeah, he likes to get there and it be fresh. And I've worked with, and I'm sure you have as well, I've worked with some people who are full method and don't leave character for the entirety of the shoot. what's the line from Robert Downey Jr. And Trump of Thunder, he's like, I don't leave character until the junket is done or whatever it is here.

Yeah, yeah. It's such a good movie. Anyways. But he, and it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a trial and error process.

And I guess for him, he found out through his hundreds of episodes of television as well, that the way he feels like he's giving his best is to keep it fresh. And, you know, good, like, that's, it's like, you ever hear, like, don't yuck my yum?

You ever hear that? I've heard of it. Yeah, it's like, I'm, you do things the way you do, and that works for you. I do things the way I do, that works for me. I'm not going to yuck your young. Right, yeah. I hope you don't yuck my yon.

Like, I, like, frankly, I wish I had more Jensen in me, because I'm setting my alarm at 4.30 a.m., you know, get out of bed on my beautiful, stunning wife to go get on my treadmill and read and I wish I could find a better way to go about it. I know a lot of fans would probably like to yuck your yum. Did I go too far? No, I think. Maybe I'll have to cut that. I don't think so. I'm going to grab some of kombucha. This is not a growler of beer. This is kombucha. And this is not like a paid advertisement. Does it taste good? No, sure. It's just really healthy.

You know, I heard some, like, maybe a podcast about komb and how komb how kombucha is good for you. And so I bought some and it was absolutely disgusting, but I powered through it. Right. And now I kind of like it. Yeah. Really? What does it do for you?

Because you're kind of a health nut, right? I try to be, dude, I'm going to be 40 in July. Dude, I'm going to be 50 in July. get out of here yeah 711 no way you're okay we talked about yeah yeah i'm 719 uh so i'll be 40 you'll be 40 i'll be 50 10 years what are we doing matching tattoos maybe maybe i got to do something for my 50th although i feel like doing nothing i'm just like oh my god saying you're 50 is just that's the hardest part when you don't feel 50 it's just like saying i am 50 years old it's it's impossible to fathom. It's like I want to say I'm 38. I'm 41. But to say 50. You're an inspiration. If you look

like this at 50, then I got to get back. I'm going to go. Do you mind if I'm doing push-ups? Yeah, do some push-ups. I didn't shower today either. I'd look much better after the shower. Have you not? Hey, you said something also that was on Twitter. I just, I just look, if I didn't look at this, I wouldn't have found all these little gems. But you said that supernatural almost didn't hire you or cast you because you felt like they thought you were too stupid. No, not I felt Dude, I was with the Talk to me

The other day So this is really funny So I'm sure you kind of remember These days But for those who are listening In the early 2000s If you were auditioning If you were

If you looked like Michael Rosenbaum Or Jared Padillike Oh yeah It was very like They wanted you be like Broody You like brooding

Like sort of like Oh Like oh I'm thoughtful intensive. And so Cripke, and dude, Crickie was in town for South by Southwest, for the boys. And so he and I and Ackles were

hanging out, gosh, a couple days ago. But I was teasing him about it. And so I went in and I was on Gilmore Girls and I was doing the whole brooding like, oh, I'm James Dean. Because that's what worked back in the day when you were auditioning. And the the critique or response came back to my manager, Spila, who I had talked about earlier, and it was like, well,

creepy is looking for an intellect, like a David DeC Company type. And so, which wasn't directly saying, like, well, we think Jared's stupid. But so my manager had to call and go like, hey, listen, he missed one question and math from SATs. He's a national merit scholar. He's a debate champion. Like, he's just, okay, give him that note and let him come back. Wait a minute.

Wait a minute. You were, your SATs were that high? They were all right, yeah. I missed one question, math. So you got like, what, a 13, 1,400 on your SATs? Yeah, 1490, I think. Are you freaking kidding me? I only took when I was a sophomore.

But you're a genius. I'm not a genius, man. I don't think, I don't think, uh, I mean, that's incredibly bright. I don't think I got half that. I'm not kidding. Talk about, I don't want to sit here. I know that my fans get upset when I call myself not, you know, call myself stupid or whatever. But I'm not saying I'm stupid.

I'm just like, I was never great with tests. Man, I see, that's the thing is that I did well in tests. The smartest, most interesting and treating people I know by and large didn't do well in tests because their brain just goes from a different angle. And so, like, I feel like this is me to be myself up or something. But I would rather be around. an interesting person who has questions about the world than somebody who got a $1,600. Okay, good, good.

Then we can hang out then. That's good. But tell me about this. I asked you what we're going to do for our 50th and 40th, and you avoided it. No, I would, dude, I would love to celebrate with you. I'd love to go up those spiral staircase right there. I'd like to spend the night there at the Padalecky homestead. Come over.

I would love it. If I'm ever in Austin or anything, I'm crashing there. I'm visiting you. Done. No doubt about it. wait a minute so your agent says to you dan is that his name dan yeah manager manager and he says hey so he wants to tell you to go in and do it again yeah and i watched i watched the and i had like a did you ever like a holding deal with warner brothers back when it was one brother's tv uh maybe i don't

remember it wasn't for much money but yeah back in the early 2000s i don't know if this is the same situation now and i'm trying to in my head make sure i'm not breaking any rules but they would like somebody like Jared or Michael and they go like, hey, we want him to be on this show, but we want the right to have him at our

disposal for our next series of pilots for whatever they might do. Right. And so they give you a check and you have like a pre-negotiated episodic pay for the next year. And so that's where I was and where Ackles was because he was on Smallville and Gellmore Girls. And

And so they kind of go like, all right, well, we want, after this year, Gilmore Girls, we want Jared to beat about this show called Supernatural. And so I wouldn't admit, and I was wearing a beanie, big surprise, and like a hoodie and probably like flip-flops or something. And back in 2005, the game was like, if you can go in and pretend you're James Dean, then you're going to get the role, you know? It's sort of like, all right, well, I'm going to go in, I'm going to squint. Do you know the labored inhale?

Jensen and I are master this. Would you like to see it? Sure. Okay. The liquid inhale. Your whole face changed. The whole face changed. There it is.

There it is. If you watch any TV show that existed in the early 2000s, you'll see a lot of labored inhales. So that was kind of the move, you know. because I was like, well, I'm auditioning. I haven't even been given the script. I'm reading some lines. Like, I should be doing something.

I'm going to do this and act brooding and all that. And so. And that didn't work. That didn't work. It didn't work. No, no. I think David Nutter liked me, who directed the pilot and the first episode, Wendigo, he's producer, McGee, Peter Johnson.

But I think Crickie was like, Well, he just seems like he's using tricks. And I was using tricks. So he was right. He was correct. But then, so Spilo calls. He's like, hey, they, I don't think they, like, got really a good sense of you. So why don't you go back in and be more smart.

So I was like, all right. So I went in, like, talk literature and stuff. I was like, all right. Like, Shakespeare? theater or suicide like what do you want to talk about and they're like okay this guy does know how to read so you literally

had a conversation and just to show them that you're not some schmuck well I went in and dude like I have anxiety anyways I know yeah and so going into auditions when it's going to possibly change your life you just get so nervous

that you can barely stream together a sentence and that's been funny about the Walker prequel is watching people's auditions and trying to figure out like who is seeming slightly off because they're possibly nervous and who just doesn't have by like finding out who's capable who can handle this yeah it's it's it's a crapshoot right you're like it's like betting on a cryptocurrency or something right this seems like the one that's going to stand yeah this one i don't think and so it's so difficult from a two-minute audition tape

to kind of try and judge or grasp the the wherewithal of a human being to be able to do a TV show for how many years. Right. Man. So they thought you were not that bright. You had to go in there. You had to sell yourself.

I don't think they. I think, and I'll say this to, I'll say just because I said it to him the other day. I think it was Crickie. It was like, we want somebody smart, like to come meet. Yet they didn't know that you had an SAT score of like 1490. Holy shit. That's brilliant.

I don't know if it's brilliant, man. It's just fantastic. I think that's pretty brilliant that you could do it. You know, we always talk about mental health and like, you know, anxiety and depression, all these things. How are you dealing with all that stuff right now? I mean, are you exercising like crazy? What are you doing?

I'm kind of in maintenance right now. I went out to see a doctor in Costa Mesa in November named Dr. Daniel Eamon, and he did some brain scans, and it was pretty humbling, man. Like I, so my wife and I, Genevieve and I went out and did brain scans, and my brain has like 60% of the oxygen going to it that it should. I just took a deep breath of inhaled oxygen. I broke down in tears. I was like, what? But then he kind of said something pretty magical. He's a psychiatrist.

He said something pretty magical where he's like, well, dude, if you're, if you're, he didn't say dude. He's too smart. I'd say dude. You could say dude. Maybe he said dude. I don't know.

But he basically said like if you're doing everything you're doing right now at 60% of oxygen to your brain, Then once we get you all squared away, you know, sky's the limit. And so I've been doing hyperbaric. Does that really work? Be honest with me. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. But you're doing it. Hyperbaric chamber you do that. How often have you done that? I've done it every day this week. You have one at your house? Yes.

You have a hyperbaric chamber at your house. How much does one cost? It's not cheap. 10,000? A little bit more. And you and the wife use it constantly. I use it. She has something in her genomics that makes it less than ideal.

We have a doctor here in town as well, a physician. And like she's a, like, you know, 23 and me? Yep, yep, yep. Well, this is like 350 in me. And so she goes through like APOE3 and this and that and what you're more than likely going to do. And so for Jen, for whatever reason, and by the way, Jen's brain was beautiful, like brilliant, like blood going everywhere.

I'm like, I'm not surprised. She's perfect. Mine looked like Swiss cheese, man. It scared you. I broke me down in tears. Really? Did the doctor immediately say, hey, hey, hey, this is not, you're not dying or anything.

This is just something that we can correct. Yeah, he's a psychiatrist. And so he was like, okay, here's where we are now. And here's what, we can possibly do to make it better. And so for me, you know, I'm a fortunate dude, been working hard and saved money in this and that. And I was able to afford to have one of those machines in my house.

But for me, it came down to like, well, if I can live with my faculties for a couple years longer, being on my kids, then, like, I'd rather have that than more money. money in the bank when I die. Yeah. And I hope that it doesn't sound callous. Like I realize there are a lot of people all over the world who are not in the same situation. But, you know, in the current situation I find myself in, I was able to kind of justify it.

Do your kids want to get in the hyperbaric chamber? They're like, Dad, let me go in there. My sons have. My daughter hasn't. But you can't do it as high power. You have to be able to pressurize your ears and stuff. And so my sons have gone. I've got him a coloring book.

What does it do? what does it do just provides more oxygen to the brain yeah yeah basically uh to everything you know to your to your epidermis um so it it it helps the level of oxygen from kind of like one PSA or PSI rather uh comps square inch to like 4.2 mind does um and so the idea is it it floods it's almost like having a uh like you see those like oxygen bars and stuff where you put a mask on you have one no is my dog i just went out I think the, so there's something called like your telomeres, and that's an indicator of your biological age.

And I think an institute in Israel did a study where they would take you or me and test our telomeres. And then they put you on a protocol of like 60 hyperact sessions in 90 days. and me not and yours would go down like 10 to 20 years so biologically you're younger and I don't know I mean I'm not a physician but you don't but you don't really feel any different yet so far I don't know I don't know there's too many variables I'm working my ass off you know we're developing the prequel and I'm working hard on Walker I have three kids and I'm pushing 40 so you'll tell me in the year next year when we talk again you'll let me know how you feel. All right. But you're going to consistently do this. You're going to consistently, you're going to give this all you got.

You're going to give it a chance. You're going to see how it works. Because some people swear by it. Yeah. And also for me, again, I keep, I keep bumping on. I'm turning 40 in the couple months. But my Genevieve was like, hey, like, what do you, do you want me to play in your 40th birthday or do you want something?

Like, what do you want? Like, I want to make the special. and she was like, what do you want for your birthday? And my answer was, honestly, a nap. Like, I'll take a nap, you know? She's like, Jared, stop it. Seriously, seriously, Jared. Yeah, I know.

And I was like, no, honest God, like, if I can take a nap on my birthday, then I'm square, man. Do you not take naps during the day? Do you not take naps on Walker? I'm napping right now. You're a zombie. I do. Dude, I can nap standing up. I'm just pretty tired these days.

But that I've been said, if I'm here and I'm going to nap for half an hour, an hour, I can nap in the hyperbaric, you know, and ideally, hopefully be around for my kids for longer, you know. Yeah. I read somewhere, I know this is a weird thing to bring up, but, you know, we talk about mental health, you know, on the podcast. You talk about this. I know you're an advocate. You're very open.

You've helped many, many people. But I know today is supposedly the birthday of your old stand in Matt, who had passed away from suicide years ago. But today, coincidentally, is his birthday that we're recording this. And is there something that you want to say in response to just like, you know, someone who we lost too young and someone who we didn't know, we weren't aware of the problems that were going on? And is there any insight you can give to that? yeah man I don't know if it's inside as much as opinion or maybe this is anecdotal

but you got to be open man like Matt Riley rest in peace was the best dude and I know you met him because he had done Tom yeah yeah Jason

and it was just the smilingest guy who was going through a lot of stuff And I think, and I've learned this being married, like, my wife can't read my mind. I can't read her mind. And so if you got something going on, just be open, you know. Yeah. And I went through some tough times. And I thought, like, well, if I just pushed down further, it'll go away.

And it didn't, you know. It is now, you know, like, but it got to a willing point. But yeah, I've had a few friends. who are no longer around due to suicide. And it's tough because it's never the person who's, well, at least in my experience, limited. It never is the person who's walking around and going like, man, I'm so bummed.

I'm so bummed. It's always a person who's like, hey, man, how are you? And then I say you get a text or a phone call. Well, like, hey, then I hear any more. So usually the signs are tough because there are no signs a lot of times. Yeah. I think a lot of people who are going through really difficult times have been to places in their head

where they don't want somebody else to go to that same place and so they just hide it. Right. You know? Yeah, it's tough. I mean, that's why, I mean, we always have an open, you know, it's just one of those things where it's just like, somebody says, how you're feeling with my friends?

How are you feeling? Be honest. If something's going on, let's talk about it. You know, it's trying to keep an open dialogue. And some people are private and some people don't want to share. And I think that the stigma, you know, with mental health and talking about your problems and all these things. I think that's starting to go away. I think people are starting to open up more.

I think there's more therapy. It's on the right trajectory. It's on the right trajectory, I believe. By the way, do you, you still have the Winchester car? What's the, the, uh, it's in my garage, yeah. Do you drive it ever? It has a, has a, uh, a leak right now. one of the gaskets.

Damn. I do. Yeah. I do. I'm going to get it fixed up. Yeah. Jensen has one. I have one.

How much you think that car is worth if you were to sell it? What are you offering? Could you sell it for 50, 100 grand? I don't know. I wouldn't sell it. You wouldn't sell it. It's just like it's a part of you. You're not going to sell this.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's also, uh, so we had like number one, number two, number three. And number one had a 502, uh, big block. in it from GM and that went to Jensen but number two ironically we used more because it was quieter so we wouldn't get noise complaints and so that's sitting right there in my garage so you got the quiet what's it called what's the car called the baby is it was called baby oh six seven ball we called baby yeah is that

what you called it on the show yeah who came up with that or was it written I it was written, I don't know who came up with it, probably creepy, my guess. Right. I don't know. I know Jared came and directed an episode of Washington. Yeah, Jesse Yeah. Ackles did. Do you like when he directs? Do you feel kind of

comforted? Do you like him on set on another? A total different production, but there with you, does it feel like, hey, my partner in crimes with me? Yeah, and what's funny is he was going to direct last year, and then he's done the boys up in Toronto.

And so he directed this year, and I had, I wasn't in every scene. And so I had like two days off of principal production photography. Right. And we scheduled them for the first two days and on purpose because I wanted my Walker crew and cast to know, like, hey, Jensen's not here because he's my friend. He's here because he's a savvy and talented director. Like, this is your director. This isn't like, hey, Jared's buddy is coming along. to direct an episode, like, no, ma'am, no, sir.

And so he did the first two days of filming without me on set. And then I showed up on day three, which I believe was his birthday, March 1st, and was able to kind of tell the crew, you know, we talked about this earlier, but when I was basically talking to Petowitz at CW and going like, well, I'm not unwilling to work again. It would have to be in Austin. He was like, cool, tell me more. I was like, well, I would need to be involved.

Like, cool, tell me more. That wouldn't have existed without the work that Ackles and I did on Supernatural. And I think this is going to sound really weird, and I've thought about this. But I don't think there's anybody on the planet that believes in Jensen to the degree I believe in Jensen. Wow. And I have no doubt that his wife and kids and family and friends know that he walks on water. The difference is that I've seen him walk on water. You know what I mean?

Like day in, day out for 15 and a half years, I've seen him with a cold. I've seen him get bad news about his grandma and go back to set. I've seen him get bad news about, oh, a pipe burst at our house. and kind of shake it off and go back to set. So I love the guy dearly, always will. And I, you know, it's one thing to know, like, somebody you like is a hero. It's another one to, it's another thing to see them and why they're a hero, you know. So having him on set, and we, what's funny on Walker, a lot of, a lot of our crew say that, like, crew members,

friends of theirs from other shows we'll call them be like hey how's Disneyland you know we have a great set man right and uh you know we're all a part of it but as the EP and the lead I help set the tone

you know I have a heavy hand I guess and set in the tone um and I I had the chance to tell everybody with Ackles there like hey this wouldn't happen if it weren't for the bloodsend tears of this guy for 15 and a half years as well

and for them to kind of honor him as well because they hadn't have the chance to meet him yet. You know, in COVID as well, he would have come by many times. It's amazing. You know, it's more amazing? You know, what's more amazing is that you work for 15 years and sometimes you feel like the last person I want to see

is the person I've been working with every fucking day. And then for you to get your own show and EP and say, I want Jensen to direct an episode. Sure. is that just speaks more volumes than you know i'm sure he was very touched and you know yeah and he's a phenomenal director man he's a phenomenal actor director everything like the the guy can do whatever he wants uh and and do it with with ease and you know yeah any uh any new fights or you've kind of the fist of cuffs you've kind of laid off that for a bit buddy i yeah i'm taking a break

you're taking a break from a little a little fight sabbatical i i i don't want to go back to jail so um i'm i'm avoiding that uh oh man oh boy uh this is what you you've given a shot yet no no fights for me uh you know i try to keep calm you know i'm not as big as you either i'm not as strong as you where were you two years ago i could use this uh the tidbit of advice you don't need to fight that's all you want to do is you want to hear people preach to you you made a mistake it happened shit happens yeah this is called shit talking with jared padalecki these are rapid fire you can answer them the way you want if you want to take a beat betsy d this is from my patrons these are uh go to patreon dot com slash inside of you join patreon uh help the podcast

give back we love you and i'll message you right after here we go betsy d i love walker how is it with jensen we already you already talked about this how was it directing an So to Walker. Any other tricks or pranks played by either of you? So, Betsy D. It was awesome being able to shelf my buddy. My partner in crime, my brother many years and many years to come. We had a bunch of pranks planned. Some had to get kind of shelved due to like COVID restrictions and stuff like that. But we had different director chairback names for him every single day. So the first day he showed up, it was

Dean Winchester. The second day, it was a soldier boy from the boys. And then it was like Red Hood. And we had a few. It was like DeNeil's husband. Did you just put it with tape, tape and a marker on there? No, no. Our chairbacks here, they're Velcro. And so

we printed a bunch out. That's amazing. How did he feel about that? Did he love it? He was laughing. He appreciated it. That's good. Little Lisa, what's your favorite thing about doing? You know, my favorite thing these days, it changed, it's changed a lot over the years. My favorite thing is catching up with people I've known for a long time and some brand new people about something that I'm really passionate about.

It's like, you know, you walk into a restaurant and you find out someone's a fan of your favorite football team or band. You see somebody with a pearl jam shirt and you're like, oh, I love it. Pearl Jam. And they're like, oh, I went to them in Kansas City in, you know, 2006. Like, I was there too, you know. Right. It's, it's connection. It's connection. It's a connection. It feels like catching up old friends. And I found as I, as I age, um, have more experiences, uh, all over the place

that it's, it's those small connections between people that really exciting. And so I think what excites me the most about conventions is the opportunity A, C or a lot of the fandom, some new, some longstanding, and B,

see people that I've worked with, you know? And we talk about, like, the scene we shot in 2008 in Vancouver, we're going to hiss on with rain and lightning and thunder and, you know, catch up with Samantha Smith or Felicia Day or Kim Rhodes or whatever. And you're going like, you remember that scene

where we had the fake blood and it's freezing and, you're like, yeah. So it feels like everyone feels like a reunion. I love it. Emily asks, would you go back if they did another Gilmore Girl show like Netflix did a few years ago? Yes. You would do it. I would.

Yeah, yeah. It's fun. I look different. I have to, like, dye my hair. Look at this. You see. Are you getting a few grays there? That's what I'm getting.

See, I got those grays too. Weird. You know, there was this app last night I was looking at Jared. and it showed you with blonde hair, not you, the proverbial you, like yourself, me. Wait,

what time last time were you looking at it? I don't know. I was looking at this app and it showed me with blonde hair, and I was like, what were you wearing? I was naked except, you know,

I was in my bed by myself. But I saw myself with blonde hair and it kind of, not to say it turned me on, but I thought maybe I should get my hair lightened. Is that kind of, is that kind of sad? No,

it's good. It's good. I like it. We all go through our own trials situation. Dude, I was in the, we have a hot tub outside in the backyard, and my daughter, who turned five today, again. A dad. This is a couple days ago.

A debt, right? Adette, right? Odette, yeah. Odette, yeah. So we're there, and we're playing around, and she likes to run to do this thing. She goes, like, make a bridge. And that means, like, stick my legs across, so she can either swim under it or crawl over it. And then she's like, okay, and she wanted to give me a hug.

And I was like, oh, this is the most amazing thing. And she just wanted to, like, kind of sit in my lap and give me a hug. We're in the pool. hot tub um and then she starts like she does this thing every night again where she'll like scratch my beard um and she's scratching my beard i'm like this is the most amazing thing of all time like i'm here of my daughter it's just she and me um and she goes daddy i was like yeah baby girl and she goes daddy you have a black beard but it's always white right here i was like oh fuck kids will say the darndest things i'll tell you the truth talk about truth that's what kids do

man zero filter zero filter my ep what advice would you give your younger self my i my ipi my ipi my my your younger self which advice what advice would you give your younger self uh that's a great question uh this is going to sound a little bizarre because not everybody is is is fortunate to have this experience, but live life as if life is long. And that sounds weird because a lot of people say like, life is short, do it up. But then you have kids and you have a spouse or not, you have jobs or you have bills. And you go like, okay, well, maybe this is life. Like, let me, let me enjoy it. I think sometimes, you know, when I was, when I was in my teens and 20s, I kind of did the life is short like do it up um and then in hindsight now i'm realizing that my

favorite experiences are when i lived life like life is long like let every let relationships grow let uh yourself grow um and don't be so hard on yourself is one thing i don't be so hard on yourself jeez man i'm so hard on myself that's the worst it's like i did give yourself a freaking break you know that's that's that's the way I'm wired I don't want to let people down yeah you know and you've got a lot to like you get you don't want your wife down your kids down your crew down your friend like you've got a lot going on so it's it's easy to go there and you got to try not to go there David H David H says both of you guys keep talking about how the book isn't closed on supernatural how unclosed is it uh David H

the book is not closed on Supernatural. I mean, obviously, there's a prequel coming out. But beyond that, as far as Jared playing Sam and Jensen playing Dean, you know, if a new book is released, then I think I would be excited to try and help tell that story. Did you and Jensen settle, did the dust settle with the whole thing when he announced that the a supernatural prequel and then you tweeted and all that stuff. Did you guys have a talk and have a laugh about it?

We had a laugh and a cry, man. Really? Yeah, we I mean, you know, we're two grown ass men with spouses and

kids and mortgages and car payments and this and that. And so we we did link up or sync up or whatever and talk on the phone and I've seen him many times since

obviously he's just directed we were just in some city together Denver Las Vegas Las Vegas, Denver Dallas, I've seen him many times we were together in Austin

three or four days ago I love the guy man and he loves me back I have no doubt and I think he and I would both rather things have gone down a different way. They didn't, but it's not productive to say like who's to blame or what happened. It's productive to go like, I mean, I feel, part of me feels like, you know, if you are in a relationship with somebody, friend, family, whatever, and you haven't gone through hardship, and you don't really know, it's once you go through a hardship of some sort. And then your instant goes to, like, I want to make this right where I want to say goodbye to this.

And he and I both figured the former, like, hey, I want to make this right. Like, you know, and that's, this is going to sound like, hey, everybody out there, like, go get in a fight with people you love. And that's not what I'm saying. But too strong of a friendship to let something like this kind of get, get you. Sure. Yeah, yeah. Things, I mean, goddamn, like, can you name anybody you. you love and have spent this much time with as an adult as a sovereign adult human being

that you haven't kind of been like dude like i wish this was different yeah i wish that was different so i've said the wrong things i've acted the wrong way this is this is this is thing called life again it comes back to not being hard on yourself you know what i mean or yeah yeah yeah yeah we love most we're straight man i mean i i i want to be really clear because i know you know you always see like twitter trolls and stuff of course man all that so i would be abundantly clear man like nobody believes in jensen more than i you said that baby you said that and i i it's touching it's touching i think he'll you know him hearing that he knows how you feel about him he knows he knows yeah he knows uh so what's next besides

Is next just tomorrow? Is next just, you just take it day by day? Is it the kids, it's the family, it's the wife, it's the show, it's the prequel. You've got enough on your plate. Is there anything else that's going on that you're thinking about? A badass nap. Like right now? Oh, yeah.

Once we hang up, I'm going to tell you I love you. Do you nap naked or with boxers or with a t-shirt and boxers? Do you keep your socks on? What is it? You know what, man? I'm mysterious. So I nap however you think I nap. I'm going to say you nap in your underwear.

Dude, I... Here's like, okay. I'm going to answer honestly. I nap in... I nap in like Under Armour, like, sweats kind of. Not really sweats, but they're like the Tom Brady... I don't know, whatever. Right.

Says like, hey, this is how. helps circulation. I don't think it does, but they're cozy. I always run hot, and so I don't, I don't like sweats, sweats, but like I sleep, I don't sleep naked. I don't nap naked. Like, I like being, I'm like a, like a proverbial cancer. Like, I want my shell. And so I want to, like, I'll nap in a beanie and a long sleep shirt and socks. And you like being toasty. But I, believe me, the room is like, 62 degrees but I like

Jen is always like why are you wearing so many class and uh I'm like I'm cozy you know and also part of me being a dad and having three kids in the house

part of me is always like well what if I have to like wake up and chase off an intruder you don't want to be naked yeah well I don't not want to be naked but I'm just sort of like maybe that would really help chase him off if you were naked maybe well like what is

Ronnie Cernie can say like if he's ever if someone's ever going to start apart with him he just drops his drawers like no one wants to fight the naked guy it's very true dude this is always a damn treat it's always a damn treat talking to you i know you're busy as shit i appreciate you taking the time i love you i can't wait to see you um i wish you all the success in the world let me know how the hyper chamber hyper hyperbaric yeah hyperbaric chamber works i will yeah see they will they will i love you buddy and i wish you all the best i'll talk to you Yeah, talk to you soon.

All right, man. All right, homie. Ciao. Yeah, I always love talking to him. I feel he's one of those guests that I feel like I could ask him anything. And I don't feel weird about asking him because he'll either say he'll tell me or he won't. But I don't feel awkward doing that. You know, that's how I feel about him.

That's good. And a lot of people love this guy. I mean, I love this guy, but he's got such a huge following. And it's always nice to see the numbers shoot up and then fall back down after he'll the next week's episode. But, you know, again, thank you guys for listening. Thank you guys for being so supportive and choosing the podcast inside of you as your podcast for the week along.

I'm sure you have others. But, yeah, it's nice. Right now, a reminder, May 28th, two shows, my band, Sunspin, 2 p.m. 6 p.m., check it out. A lot of cons. If you want to listen to the intro of this whole thing, you can hear a bunch of other stuff. how about that you can just rewind and listen to the beginning and you can hear about the inside of you online store and a bunch of other stuff but right now we're going to go to our top tier patrons thank you jared padalecky for joining us um i appreciate you buddy and these are the top tier patrons

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