Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Your Favorite Jackass Steve-O: MTV, Family Acceptance, and Living Unhappy

Episode Date: March 9, 2021

Steve-O (Jackass, Wild Ride!) joins me this week and shares the surprising family dynamic during his childhood and exactly how it led to him becoming the Steve-O we know and love today. Steve-O opens up on how, specifically, his father’s respect and approval provided a massive boost to his self confidence as he began his career in entertainment, which inevitably blossomed into Jackass. We also talk about some BTS stories on the origin of Jackass, his now famous dog that he rescued from the streets of Peru, and his thoughts on Buddhist philosophy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Ryan, hi. How are you? That was very Yiddish of you. How are you? I hope you guys had a glorious weekend. Our music video came out. Sunspin. I directed my first music video, a little low-budget music video called

Summertime Neighbor, one of the tracks on the new album, which you can get on iTunes and Amazon on your computer, not your phone. just go on your computer and download it this is a cd see that anyway summertime neighbor uh the music video came out and people are digging it uh i'm glad it was a fun half a day maybe three-fourths of a day work and it was nice to be out there and you know just kind of guiding the ship and enjoying it so that was uh that was fun uh what else i watched this uh documentary on billy holiday and um poof it was it was it was a little heavy yeah but you know i mean she like she She died at 44 years old, young man.

And what a voice. And she just went through a lot in her life. And, you know, I remember, I don't know if I'm quoting her exactly, but she was talking about death. And she said, I think we're all trying to put a hundred days into one. And it was something like that, which really rang true for me, because I think we're trying to do instead of just living here right now in the moment, enjoying it, we're doing a hundred things that we're ahead of ourselves.

we're not really enjoying this moment like I'm not really enjoying my time with you right now because me neither kidding what a fucking drag what a drag man that's fucking sucks but you know it was kind of interesting it was like she said something like

we're trying to fit a hundred days in the one and it's just like just relax you know and I could be misquoting her but it was something along those lines and it just resonated with me and I think that's the thing we're always thinking ahead so much

we're always thinking about what we could do and how we could do and sometimes man I don't know how many times you hear about when people on their deathbed they asked them and it's just like I wish I just would have been more present I wish I would have just not worked so much I wish I would have and if you're hearing it from so many people I mean this isn't just like one or two people but they've done studies then why don't we just everybody just stop fucking working everybody just stop what you're doing right now go hug something uh I don't know

we can't do that now right no don't don't hug anybody that's not what I meant it was It's a proverbial hug. You mean what you said. Hug something. Just, that object. Hug your dog. Hug a tree. Hug a door.

Hug a door. Hug a... It's all a goddamn... I don't know why I won't say. Hug a dick. No, that's on a person and that could have COVID on it. COVID could have COVID dick. Sorry for getting crashed this early in the morning.

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Try it. See if that shit works. I want to say thanks to, thanks Ryan for working so hard and Bryce for giving us a good podcast here. You guys are really, you know, you put it together. And it's, it's nice to, I don't know, it's nice to be, do something that you're proud of. And it's quality. I think we're giving people quality. The sound, you know, it sounds good. It looks good on the YouTube when you edit it.

The equipment's great. the equipment's great we have a nice room here uh you know you could write into us at hello at inside of you podcast.com thanks to all my patrons out there who support the podcast if you want to join patreon it's a wonderful it's a wonderful family i'll text you right after you join it's patreon p a t r eon dot com slash inside of you or inside patreon dot com slash inside of you try inside of you or inside anyway um i think that's it why don't we get into our guest you know this guest is you know him from MTV and jackass and like all these movies but he's really started his own little empire i got to give it to him i mean this guy's been through some hell

and he keeps fighting and keeps coming through and uh you know he talks he's pretty open about you know we talked about i believe unless you cut it ryan about loving thyself and you know you like yourself you these questions seem kind of trivial and like well we're What is it really mean? I hate when people ask me that. It's a legit question. I mean, Ryan, if I said, do you like yourself? You're probably going to say, I'm okay.

Okay. But you love yourself? I do. Okay. See, that's a pretty quick, solid answer. I honestly can't answer those questions as easily, but I'm working on that. So when I ask people sometimes, and I don't do it, I don't do it to interrogate, but I think sometimes, you know, I think that answers...

deep down deep inside you and it's like it it takes i know what the fuck i'm saying it just it takes time to really be honest with yourself because you could say yeah i fucking love myself man like i'm awesome oh i'm fucking great but uh i think it stems from childhood i really do think it there's a certain thing where you know something happens along the way and i'm not blaming but you know then you're like why don't i love myself that's weird i think i'm a good guy for the most part but yeah i'm irritable i could be a little bitch you know and then you start downing yourself and that's what you so you got to really stop that stop being so hard on yourself so that's what i'm learning that hey you know you we all fuck up every day it doesn't mean you're a bad person you make mistakes you

you know you you you you dump your boyfriend or your girlfriend doesn't mean you're a bad person if you cheat on them maybe you're doesn't mean you're bad no it probably means that you did a bad moment but does that mean you're bad for the rest of your life you're terrible i'm not insinuating that i'm cheating i or i have a girlfriend to cheat on for that matter i'm just saying in general let's get into stevo it's my point of you you're listening to inside of you with michael rosenbaum studio audience what's up dude i'm just kicking it man what a great bed are you in an r v man i sure am this is my traveling podcast studio tattoo shop movie trailer uh surf mobile you have a tattoo shop in your trailer we had it's uh it's it's a it's a class b motor home built

on a Dodge Ram chassis. It's a little bit smaller than your average tattoo shop, but we get it done. Do you know how to tattoo people, or you have someone who tattoos? No, no, I do, man. I'm actually an apprentice at this time. It seems that tattoos from Stevo are in rather high demand. Are they quality? They are surprisingly good.

for a tattoo from stevo i've got a tattoo portfolio that uh that i'm just so uh serious about man you know i i really put effort into it and it came about uh i never thought about it you know like the first tattoo i ever did was i think uh 2006 and and someone just uh produced a tattoo while I was on stage performing in front of a crowd. I wanted to be quick about it. I never wiped away the ink. I was just tattooing in this big mess of black ink. And then I was tattooing my name.

When I finished and wiped away the ink, I had misspelled my own name. It said Stevo. And it was just an awful experience overall. And over the years, you know, when presented with a day, tattoo machine i'd be like yeah sure but then a year and a half ago i decided what if i really tried what if i took on you know somewhat ambitious designs and did my absolute best and i was surprised by the results so now uh i got a whole apprenticeship um um i believe i've just sold a television show called stevo's bad news tattoos you believe you sold the show you're not sure yet uh well i like

we've sold the uh uh it's not a pilot i think they don't make pilots anymore as much um because because when the pilot's shot they can't they can't really air it because it sticks out like a sore thumb as not part of the series right so they sort of scale it back and i understand that we've been granted 75 000 to make a proper presentation of what the show would look like right now now see I think about things like art And that's one thing I run from Like I'm not a good artist I can barely make a 3D L

Or you know how you do You know how you make it look 3D Like I couldn't even imagine that So were you like Were you always drawing and drawing Cool shit and designs? I think it's a misconception That tattooing is a function of drawing

It's really much more a function of tracing You know You'll trace on the carbon paper for what's called the stencil and then you'll trace over that with the needle. I mean, sure, when you get into shading and stuff, there's a level of art to it.

But you don't have to actually draw the thing you trace it. But I'm colorblind too. I could. Yeah, I mean, maybe it's not for you. It's a lot of work, man. There's no question about it.

But there's a level of satisfaction that comes with with being surprised by the fact that you did a better job than you thought you could. Well, kudos, man. Well, kudos. You know, I look at your life and all this shit, and everybody knows you and your world famous. You got five million people on YouTube watching your channel

and you do these kind of sit down, talk about your life and moments and intercut videos, and it's really cool. I just watched the surfing one about how you had his wrong name. and everybody was fucking up the dude's name that surfed this giant wave. Right, right, right. Thank you. Yeah, you posted it and unfortunately

you were called the asshole. 22 million people, I guess, tweeted the wrong person. You fucked his name up so they gave... Well, right, yeah. I saw a clip and the buddy mine had posted. It was this guy surfing like an 80-foot wave. There was, you know,

they were saying it was the biggest wave ever ridden. And I thought right on, you know, and I posted it too, giving credit to what turned out to be the wrong surfer. And, you know, a bunch of people had posted this clip crediting the wrong surfer. But I was the guy whose post got 22 million views. Jesus. So that was the headline, Steveo posts, big wave surf, you know, wrong surfer.

What's your dog's name there? This is Wendy. Wendy. Yeah, I found her in the streets of Peru. You really look like a hoe, Wendy. Yeah, your legs propped up there. Get your act together. Yeah, this dog is a bit of a celebrity in her own right.

I found her in the streets of Peru. And this is bittersweet, but the video that I made and posted of finding this dog in the streets of Peru is the most viewed piece of content. that I've ever posted online. It got over 100 million views, the video of me finding this dog. And as wonderful as it is, it's heartwarming, and this dog is my companion. But for fuck's sake, the links I've gone to to try to get attention.

And it's the finding that dog video that was a hit. Unfortunately, it was the wrong dog. It did. yeah it's uh it stinks that that was the the most attention i ever got but what can you do i think about it man it's like something it's like affectionate it's empathetic it's like it's like it's like what people really like so it's like a side of you maybe that they weren't used to or accustomed to i mean sure i'll give you that i'll give you that yeah definitely uh i mean i've been through you know walked through entire days with this dog and and every single person

that uh that stopped for a photo knew her by name i was because it's crazy man that's all you know i look at all this shit man and you know i look at your life and i'm like here's a guy your dad was corporate right he was kind of a corporate guy and you go you go to clown school you went to barnman bailey for like circus school which i mean were you doing shit at a young age your dad's in a suit and tie and you're like jumping off cliffs and you know i mean a little bit sure i mean uh i i heard a story about me as a toddler, you know, not even walking, I don't think. And they said there was like climbing out of a window on some like 15th story apartment or something. Yeah, I was definitely

acting like an asshole from a very early age. And my overdeveloped need for attention was prominent, you know, out of the gate. So I've always been an attention whore. And, you know, at whatever age, there was always just something that I was acting out with. Did you feel like it was, because, you know, with me, I can relate. I always wanted to make my father laugh. I always wanted him to, like, accept me. I always want to.

And my dad was very corporate work, you know, six to five or six every night. And, you know, I think I was sort of like my mom in a way where I was kind of all over the place, short attention span, didn't know what the hell I was doing, wasn't good in school, started, you know, acting and things like that. And just, I think he just kind of looked at me like, nah, fuck, this son. I guess the next son's going to be better. And, you know, my other brother was smarter and they got along better. In fact, my mom once was, she, I remember saying, oh, Mark, to my dad, I know Eric's your favorite. We all know Eric's your favorite in front of me. And I'm like, Jesus, I mean, I knew it, but to hear my mother say it.

So what I'm saying is I always was like I couldn't, it wasn't enough. And I felt like I was always trying to get attention from other people, from whatever to, because I didn't get that attention with my dad. Do you think there was part of that? Is Eric an older brother? Eric is my younger brother. He's the smarter one. Yeah, he's like six years younger.

So I think that to me is an indication that neither of your parents are alcohol. Is that right? That's actually, you know, my mom was sort of a pill popper a little bit. My dad really never drank, but he was extremely strict, you know, even though he did a bunch of shit, which I didn't know. I mean, if you, like, you would have been in prison. Like, my dad, if it was you, because he, I remember got my ear pierced by the next door neighbor. And I looked at him with my opposite ear and I go, hey, what did you think I've ever got my ear pairs? He goes, you'd go to a halfway house is what you do.

I go, oh, see, I want to be at Nate's next door for the next week till this heals. You know what I mean? So, like, so was your father like that? Was he strict? Was he, did you feel like you needed to act out? Well, yeah. I mean, my whole family dynamic is, it really explains everything. I'd say, you know, take it, you know, the sort of one piece at a time.

Yes, my dad was strict. And he was a corporate executive, but his job involved a great deal of travel. So he was almost not there more than he was there. And so it was a very inconsistent, like, if dad was around, he would try to kind of compensate for the time he was gone by being more of a disciplinarian, I think, you know. And so it was just like, dad's not here. I can do whatever.

Dad's here. Oh, you know, it's sort of an inconsistent thing. And as far as the family dynamic goes, my dad was actually, sort of the black sheep of his family for choosing a career in business. He came from just a long line of academic, scholars, theologians, clergymen, zoologists. You know, like, he was, it was very, very, like, incredibly academic and low-earning lineage that my dad came from. you know he grew up with with with very little money but just a lot of prestige you know all this scholastic kind of thing and then and you know his dad was a published author and a zoologist and

had a decorated uh you know army colonel um all this very very respected family and then dad's going to go into business and that was like all right well that's not what i would have chosen for you son you know um and then on my mom's side of the family It's all alcoholism, you know, gambling, suicide, like addiction, like really, really dark, you know, addiction stuff. And the way that that works, I have an older sister. I'm the second of two children. And it's sort of a cookie cutter kind of a deal that when you have an absentee alcoholic parent that the first child, child will really overachieve, you know, to just like, wow, I'm not being noticed, you know,

like my parents have other stuff going on. They're not paying attention to me to try to get noticed. I'm going to overachieve. I'm going to get straight A's. I'm going to look at me. I'm perfect. You know, is that enough for you? And I think that that's a pretty regular sort of stereotype that really applies to my situation where I have this overachieving older sister. And then I come into the picture, you know, there's not a lot of attention being doled out by either parents because dad's gone and mom's drunk. And my sister is this perfect straight-A character doing everything right. And, you know, the second child comes along and looks at the efforts of the older child and says, wow, there is no fucking way I can compete with that. You know, like, I'm not even going to try to compete with the straight A's and do everything.

So I'm just going to try to get through, like, you know, based on, you know, just being a class clown, kind of like go for laughs, you know, like that, you know, and not even try to achieve anything. But at the end of the day, what my dad's family brings to the table is this, like, intense drive for whatever it's for. And so, like, I'm a hybrid of my dad's, my dad's side's sort of tenacity and perseverance. coupled with my mom's side, what do you call it, deviance, you know, deviance and dysfunction. And so I'm like just this hyper, perseverance, fucking, you know, like deviant with, you know, a really overdeveloped need for attention. And I think that when you look at it that way, it makes sense how it turned out the way I did. Yeah, I read something where it was like it was years later because, you know, you know,

your mom was sick she had an aneurysm or something and in your your dad was you guys were talking outside and this was like 2003 and he and he was that was actually in 1998 my mom died in 2003 and and she died after having survived a brain aneurism five years prior and it was just sort of like one of these things where you know i understood that she like cooked some three course meal, you know, like with normal, normal. And then like the next morning, I kind of got up and whatever happened, like she had just had a blood vessel in her brain just pop. And there was no way to see it coming or anything. And it was just a super, you know, get her to the hot, you know, and most people don't survive these subarachnoid brain hemorrhages. You know, and mom did survive

it, but was left really physically and mentally disabled. And whatever, in the, you know, she had brain surgery, all this. And the family came from, all dad, I think, flew her from England. And my sister and I were in Albuquerque, New Mexico. We all met in Florida. And it was just this kind of crisis management situation. And we left at the hospital just for a meal. And it was at this restaurant.

And, you know, there's crazy circumstances where moms, you know, got this brain thing. And, uh, and dad chose that time to say, hey, son, I feel I've done a disservice to you by not supporting you in this career path that you've clearly committed yourself to. And he said, you know, my dad, I didn't choose what my dad wanted me. He had a similar conversation with it, you know. And son, you didn't, you know, you're not doing what I would have chosen for you. but given that you're committed to it, I just want you to be the best at it. I pledge to support you. And I put a lot of wind in myself.

Did you, were you emotional? I mean, it was a heavy, heavy situation. I mean, that was like the least of what was going on at the time. Yeah, it meant a lot, you know. It was almost like, all right. And I almost didn't think that that would really change a whole lot. I was like, okay, well, you know, I'm kind of a loser. At that point, I had not made any money.

I had not really accomplished anything. I'd had, you know, photos in a couple of skateboard magazines, and the photos were not of me skateboarding, you know? Like, I just did not have my act together. And so it's a big credit to my dad that he, you know, didn't jump on the bandwagon after I had some success, you know. Like, I really love to say that I don't feel that having a great relationship with my father is because I'm successful. But rather, I think that, you know, I've been able to achieve some success because I have a great relationship with my father.

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from my show inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum. Rocket Money. That's profound, man, because yeah, I mean, like I've never really heard that. I think there's certain, people are built a certain way.

Like you're built a certain way. entertainer you like to do crazy things and you just go with your gut and you you know you explore and then there are some people who are like this is what I know and they don't understand that other side that side of you or whatever and to appreciate it to respect it to be able to look at someone and go hey he's not like me you know I don't think I've had that like you know I think my dad does the best he can with with me with the way he feels like it's just like hey the nurses need some pictures at the hospital for your sister you know and I'm like okay I'll sign them it's not hey I just want you to know if you if you suck if you fail I love you I that's that

doesn't exist that's never existed in my life I've never heard it I never right so I was kind of curious and so and I didn't know that like he approached you like this before you had the success so again when you said that that's that's a profound what did that do for you did that kind of open Oh, dude, it, it's sorry, I jumped in because I'm so excited to answer the question. It put fucking wind in my sales, man. Like that, the year was 1998. And I think that, you know, at the time, there were, at the time, the video camera was really not, like, a household item. You know, not even, like every household didn't have a video camera, let alone everybody having a video camera in their pocket, you know.

There was about enough home video cameras to sustain America's Funniest Home Videos. And at that time, I think that the, you know, at that time, there was another show that had come up called Real TV. And Real TV was, you know, well, America's Funniest. his home videos was family friendly and kind of really funny and like you know this is this light and fun like real TV was more like gnarly stuff caught on tape you know like it was a little bit darker a little bit you know and um it was after that conversation with my dad that I saw a commercial on TV for real TV and and it was this pitch you know it says hey if you have uh oh i got a second i lost you that's all right yeah i had i had another call come in

that's right um so i saw this commercial and it said if you have a video that you think we should see then send it on in to real tv and i was like oh well fuck you know like i had tons of video so i had all these videos i sent them in you know and it was like i called the numbers i said i i don't have footage that you might want to see i have footage that you need badly You know, I'm just going to put it like that. Like, I'm sitting on some gold. And so they got back to me, they gave me the information to mail it in because, you know, watching footage on the internet wasn't even a thing.

I sent in the footage and they got back to me. They said, we really like the clip of you on top of the three-story building, setting yourself on fire and doing the fire breathing flip off the roof into the pool. And I was like, is that all out of everything I fucking sent you? that's all that you guys want. They were like, yeah. And we just want that clip. We want you jumping without the fire.

Then we want to show you jumping with the fire. And they said, we want to give you $500 for exclusive rights to these clips. And I was like, well, what does that mean? I'd never heard of such a thing. And they were like, well, then that means that we own it. And, you know, we own it exclusively. We only own owners of it. So I'm like, so I came and like show people that are like basically no.

You know, I'm like, fuck, you know, I want to be on TV. You know, I'd never been on TV. But, like, I don't want to give away my rights. So in a panic, I called it my dad. Like, dad, dad, they're exclusive. You know, my dad, trademarked dad. He said, he said, son, whatever. He said, look, Steve, like, calm down.

Take a breath. Okay. This is really simple. He says, you've got to just figure out at which point. It's a deal breaker for you. You draw a line in the sand, and you just stick to it. He says, it sounds to me like it's a deal breaker, this exclusivity clause. So why don't you call them back and say, I'm not okay with giving away exclusive rights.

You can have non-exclusive rights, and you've got to give me $1,000 for that. And that's what I did. And they had no problem with it. Okay, cool, not exclusive, you get $1,000. And that was like my first deal. first step in negotiation this is my first and it's more negotiating than i ever did for jackass you know yeah given that i had this you know high power business father in my corner you know it seems to follow that i could should have done much better with all the jackass deals over

years but uh but i suppose i'm also glad that i didn't um die too hard on that didn't didn't die And it didn't push too hard to where, like, it would have soured the relationship, you know, because everything worked that well in the end. Right. So from there, it's sort of like, you know, that video, when you saw it on TV, you're like, oh, fuck. Was it just like that feeling of like, look at this? It was much more anticlimactic because I thought that being on TV was going to really change something or other, you know? Like, and it was just that fucking thing came and went. Not one person ever mentioned that they saw it. You know, there's a very different experience having that one clip come out on real TV compared to when I had my first, like, real bit on Jackass, which was the swallowing the goldfish and barfing it up into a fish bowl.

That one, I had one thing on the first episode of Jackass, but you could barely recognize me, and it wasn't like a really notable bit. It was the second episode of Jackass where I had the gold film. fish trick and um i did dude it's there was an audience for jackass right away and and and and like the next day like 24 hours like within 24 hours of that goldfish bit playing for the first time i noticed that my life was different you know like like i i could like i heard about it like all over the place and um it was and it was crazy and um i think that uh what it was maybe maybe one week after that uh i got a call um from the executive producer guy and he said uh you know he said uh all right here's the deal the show is it hit you know now like we had done eight

episodes for the first season you know for the entire first season i was paid less than $1,500 after taxes, as I recall. Each episode. No, I got paid per bit. I didn't get paid per episode. I got paid per bit. It was $500 for a bit if it was, like, dangerous and risky. And if it was just like a little gag or, you know, a prank that wasn't like high impact, then it was $200.

So it's like a stuntman, literally like a stuntman, the more dangerous it is, the more money you make. But they're not paying you that much money. Yeah, right. Uh-huh. Like a medical study When I had the government Test drugs on me The more dangerous study

The more money you get Right, right, right But yeah, so I got paid Per bit and all of the bits put together You know, it was like $1,500 about after taxes And And so I got this call

Like three episodes in And they said, all right The show's a hit It's the highest ratings That MTV's ever had For like a half-hour format Kind of a thing and so we know we got to pay you

and MTV is ordering 16 episodes you know like there's eight episodes per season they're ordering seasons two and three and one go 16 episodes and we know we got to pay you so we're going to give you 2,000 bucks per episode and I remember thinking

16 times 2000 that's $32,000 I'm fucking rich like I was just like so, so moved from it, you know, like, I just didn't ever even, you know, and I don't know, man. Like, I think that, like, as I grew up and the house got bigger because dad was increasingly successful, you know, like, I was really self-conscious about my privileged upbringing, you know, like the big house.

I was embarrassed to have kids from school, like, come over and see that I lived in this big house, you know, like, I was kind of ashamed of my, parents wealth and um you know and and as a result i was just never i never really found myself uh you know motivated by wealth like no you know and i just didn't i just needed very little to get by and so he had 32 thousand bucks like holy shit man i'm rich and you didn't negotiate you didn't negotiate that i didn't negotiate at all no not not whatsoever and um i remember we started filming um i got paid half towards the beginning

and $32,000 after taxes came to like $20,000 and I got half of that so I received a check for $10,000 and when I found out that I was going to receive a check for $10,000, I called up the director, Jeff Tremaine and I said, yo dude, I'm about

to get a check for $10,000 and that shit isn't even going to be clear. I'm going to put it in the bank and before it even clears into the account, I am going to be fucking in my car driving out to California. I was in Florida at the time

and I'm going to drive fucking you know, I'm fucking driving out to L.A. I'm moving out to L.A. to fucking ride this wave. And Jeff Tremaine said that he said you're not going anywhere until you send me a list of ideas to film in every

state between Florida and California and if the list is on point then I'll fly out a production team to follow you across country and get all this footage on the road so that's what we did and it put me way ahead of

the game for shooting for those, you know for that third season I suppose and yeah that was the deal man I moved out there and I got out to California and everyone was like dude you know you better strike while the iron's hot man you know you're fucking the show is going to be

canceled you're going to this moment's going to pass and I found that frustrated because I was just trying to like be in the moment and that's like everybody was a little bit right you know I mean they are right

like up to that point I viewed all of my video footage like in sort of like a dark like religious kind of a way that like fuck we're we're all going to be dead but I don't want to live forever and when I videotape something

that fucking video can play after I'm dead so I won't be dead at all like I'm gonna fucking live forever and I had this like this super like just like sacred view of like the immortality of video footage you know footage is forever like oh you know right there's this huge importance to what I was doing but then when I got out to California and everyone's like oh it's gonna be you know it was a strike while there and taught like it really dawned on me that footage is not fucking forever, you know, that when you're doing, when you're actually in the game, the footage has an expiry date, you know, like, the footage comes out and then it just spoils, you know,

like, once it's out, once it's, it's rotten. And then, like, now what are you, that's gone? Like, now what are you going to do, you know? And then life turns into this, uh, this really fucking frantic, desperate, pathetic, like, you know, chasing the spotlight around to try to always have like and and the like what like where what's next you know like what do you got next it's this scary daunting question like fuck you you have to have something next or you're you know you're only as good as what you're doing right fucking now and I hate that I've always hated that and people like well so what are you up to um I'm right here with you right now that's what I'm up to right that's what what is this oh I got this and then you feel worse when you start talking to

people go oh I'm doing this and I'm doing this and I'm doing. Shut the fuck up. You know, I don't need to sit here and talk about it. You feel stupid because you almost feel like you're defending not doing anything. Right. Right. And I found it scary. I found it frustrating.

And the idea of being in the limelight, you know, being in the spotlight is, it's inherently fucking dark and depressing because, you know, it's a temporary situation. You know, and to try to keep that going, it's like a lot of pressure and it's a lot. but um whether i liked it or not whether i you know whether it was fucked up there's nothing healthy about a life as an you know an entertainer you know show business there's nothing fucking healthy about fame or celebrity but at the same time nobody's trading it in and um you know from when i from when i got out to california i just felt like oh fuck you fuck everybody like you want to you tell me to strike when the iron's hot fuck you like you're like I'll make the fucking iron hot, dude.

Fucking, you can strike eat fucking assholes, you know. Like, all fucking, you know, and it just motivated me. And from that, from the very beginning, and even when I was, like, wildly out of control on drugs, like, I just, like, I just hit the hustle button, you know? Like, I, I know that when Jackass first got ordered, like I said, I had all this video footage, all this shit that I sent into real TV and stuff.

And when Jeff Tremaine first told me that the pilot got ordered to series, he said, the first thing you do is pack up all the video footage you got. I know you got a lot and send it to us so we can license it and just put some of it straight onto the show. And I was like, fucking right on. And when I sent it in, he told me, I was like, I called back and I'm like, dude, so what are you guys going to use? And he was like, sadly, not one clip you sent us is loud on TV.

Like, I mean, to be fair, in some cases, it was just shitty fucking dove back and forth. The quality was low. In some cases, it was just feeling bad. But for the most part, my thing was, like, my specialty was jumping off roofs, you know. And my motto was that whatever you're doing, it's cooler if you're on fire. and two of the rules that we had like they kind of we had rules that we had to kind of follow

and that was that if we were going to jump off of something off of jackass it couldn't be over a certain height because they were really worried about little kids copying it and MTV had like all kinds of problems with fire where like they had one lawsuit where a kid, trailer part like burned down the trailer killed his sister and they were like why did you do that

and he says beat his fire fire you know like and then mtb was found liable so and then they had another fire and then another lawsuit was so fide just didn't fuck the fire you were fire guy yeah i'm the fire guy i'm a hundred percent the fire guy man and like if i'm not jump if i'm not jumping off something that's way too high for MTV I'm probably doing that I'm probably on fire while I'm doing that and if it's not either of those things

then it's something like even more fucked up you know because I was I had a real mag for dark shit and and the point being I tell that because out of the gate the first impression I had the show and I think this was before it even was

called Jackass when they had ordered it I think it was like working titles you know I thought fuck man Like this is kind of like weird Like it's gonna be cool if we get a TV show But how how watered down is it gonna be You know like what kind of a fucking pussy ass show Is this gonna be

I thought oh well you know They're telling me that I can make Too Hot for TV videos Because in that time during that whole era You know late night TV was littered with Girls Gone Wild You know like kind of these like Not a lot on TV videos And if you call right now, I'll throw in a bonus video.

So I knew that I was going to be making too hot for TV DVDs. And I got to work with that, like, really pretty quickly. And, you know, it was like I teamed up with some people who didn't think it was important to pay me. Seems like you've done that a lot. Yeah, for sure. I mean, let me ask me, yeah, do you feel like now after, you know, you got control of the drinking, you've been sober, what, 10 years? 12 years 12 years uh and you're engaged you still engaged or i am i'm still engaged all right so look so you survived somehow you did all these things and here you are we're we're in our 40s you're probably

in your 40s right 46 all right you're younger than i am but now you're sitting in your trailer and you're doing tattoos and you're going on the road and you got this youtube channel are you able like a few minutes ago you're talking about you just want to be in the moment and like they're saying you got to do this you got to do this and it kind of fucks up that moment when you start to feel it like like things all the stress builds up and all you have to do you feel now sitting here do you feel like you're enjoying the moment now do you feel like you're getting a grasp on who you are it's it's such a gnarly question you know and i would uh you know compare that question to to it's i feel i find it so uncomfortable if somebody says uh i used to find it uncomfortable

to be asked are you happy yeah i didn't say happy seems so like such a simple question are you happy and and over the years i feel like that being asked if i'm happy made me terribly uncomfortable because my honest answer my gut instinctual my instinctual answer is no i'm not fucking happy yeah you know and and uh i just know that i'm not fucking happy i know that i don't enjoy the moment and i do enjoy some moments but overall i have this like this overwhelming sense of impending doom, you know? And maybe it's that same impending doom about, oh, you strike while the iron's hot.

You're going to be a hazard. Maybe that's just like fucking scarred onto my brain. But when I think about it, and I finally come to terms with that question, and I've come to terms with my honest answer being, no, I'm not happy. And I've come to terms with that because I finally decided, you know, what the fuck does being happy get you?

You know, what does being happy, like, oh, I'm happy, I'm content, okay, so I'm just going to chill, you know, like, no, like, I think that, that I have a sense of impending doom, some feeling that everything is not fucking okay, that it's not going to be fucking okay, and then I better frantically hustle to try to work to make things okay. and as such I'm not comfortable I'm not happy but that's where my hustle comes from you know and and and I

like rather than be lazy and content I would rather be super uncomfortable and fucking hustling like a maniac to get shit done

you know yeah so like it's a point of pride for me that I'm not happy that I'm not content that I can't enjoy the moment because it's just

fucking ah I've got to I've got to make shit happen. I got to make it. And so then I feel like there was another component to the question is that, you know, beyond, am I enjoying the moment? Am I able to be happy? But like, have I gotten, you know, having done like pretty bad business over the years, I was never motivated by money. I'm just an attention to horror. You know, I didn't do very well business-wise.

Every attempt at investing money has just completely gone sideways on me. And, you know, but at this point where I'm at now, you know, and as a result of being sober, able to focus myself and not waste time making bad decisions, but really just kind of apply myself deliberately in productive ways, like I'm finally kind of getting better at the business side of things, you know? like I've put together like with with my attention hoaring I've been able to put together a substantial following on social media and you know I really care I care so much about the quality of the content that I put out and I think that that that has built a level of goodwill with my audience you know they know that if I post something that like they can click play and that it's generally they can count on it being a good video. that kind of thing. And with that following,

it doesn't mean that you're doing well. You know, like to have a big social media following, it is like sort of like, you know, having a storefront with lots of traffic coming through, but that doesn't really accomplish much if there's nothing on the shelves that you have for sale.

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in a better place. And I think what I, people would say, are you happy? And I go, and I felt fucking horrible that I couldn't immediately just say yes, because innately it was no. And I was like, but look around you and I'm grateful and all these things. I'm like, what's fucking wrong with you with therapy and this and that? Like what? Why can't you be, uh, you know, but then you know what makes me happy. And I think maybe you could, maybe you could accept this is that the fact that we're talking about it the fact that we've worked on ourselves the fact that we've come from a certain place and that we're trying to to to be better and better as whatever as a person i feel like you're doing that to be better as a person to be better as a human being to be better as a friend

to be but whatever it is those things and it sounds so corny but if you look at yourself kind of out of control on drugs and lighting yourself on fire and doing all this shit and now you're petting a dog and you're you know you're doing these videos and you're sober and you're doing it. Maybe you can at least, in retrospect, go, well, I'm happier. I'm actually aware, aware, aware, aware of what I'm, what I am. And I don't want to create the impression that, like, I'm miserable and that, that I hate my life. It's not that.

It's not that. And I'm profoundly grateful for the progress that I've made. Like, intellectually, I can absolutely grasp, like, you know, how how pleased I am with the way things are going, you know. And, you know, it's a philosophy of Buddhism that all suffering comes from craving and that whether things are good,

but this is like a Buddhist thing that I kind of really latched on to. If we're in pain, we crave, for that pain to end it's just common sense you know but if we're having some pleasurable sensation we every bit as much crave we crave for that pleasurable sensation to intensify to last longer you know like no matter what fucking situation we're in as human beings we crave for you know more good and like I don't know and so that's why people who have millions and millions of dollars they crave more you know like there's just no fucking situation you can put the human being in you know where it's enough and you don't crave something something more and that's why like the philosophy of

Buddhism is that uh you know is that your happiness you just have to be happy on with what is not with how you want it to be you know like that's like being in the present like accepting this how shit is and i don't even try that i was i was telling my buddy i was saying yesterday to my friend tom was like i just am always anxious he's like what do you mean he's like yeah and i go but i'm anxious about everything he's like like what i go like everything like i got to go down and get the mail i'm anxious i got to take a shit now i wanted to do something but i have to shit i'm anxious yeah 100% do you take any medication yeah i'm trying some something right now that kind of hell helps with anxiety that, you know, in the beginning

stages. So I haven't really felt any effect. Are you on something? Yeah, I got a psychiatrist and I take Zoloft and I absolutely, it's not anything that gives you a buzz. Like it's never, but in any circumstance has been considered as substance of abuse. I just find that if, If I'm not taking Zoloft, like a relatively minor disturbance, something that bothers me, like, you know, something that bothers me a little bit can very easily send me to suicidal ideation. You know, I've never been, like, proactive on any level, you know, about killing myself. But what I have done, you know, and particularly when not taking Zolab, is just squandering. a lot of valuable time with like some crazy like fantasies about how like you know like about how I could make it so nobody would ever discover the body and then it would be this mystery of what

happened to him you know like yeah like all this crazy this crazy dark fucking just perverse shitting fucking time wasted and I don't deal with that for the most part when uh when I'm on taking my zola do you deal with pain from all the stunts and all the bullshit you've done, and what do you do for pain? Not, uh, I, since I got sober 12 years ago, I've not to even filled out a prescription for painkillers. Like, um, you know, my rule is that if when I'm in the hospital, um, you know, if they got to knock me out for a procedure, then fucking general anesthesia, that's just part of the deal,

you know, and that's them doing it to me. Right, right, right, right. And if while I'm in the hospital, they're going to put something into my IV, like, that's, that's fine but my role is that once i'm out of the hospital nothing like i don't fucking fill out of prescription because that's where it gets slippery i'm in possession of it and i'm well i'll take it as prescribed like that's just a slippery slope do you still do stunts do you still do that shit or you could yeah for sure like you're comfortable with that you're like you're still are you are you pretty fearless

would you say god no i'm gripped by fear i'm gripped by fear i feel pain and uh And those are, I think, two very crucial ingredients to the success of, you know, the projects that I've been a part of because if I was fearless, there'd be no trepidation. They'd just be like, oh, you know. Right, right, right. And the fear is kind of what makes it engaging, you know? Yeah. And the pain is what, like, to not feel pain, would there be no reaction.

All right. Hey, listen. uh hey this is called shit talking with stevo these are from my patrons they're just asking you rapid rapid questions here it is brett g can you share a paranormal experience that's scared the crap out of you um very little about um my paranormal experiences were scary some of them were but um yeah i i had uh my insane hallucinations hearing voices like all kinds of people walking around who weren't physically there while I was on drugs. And rather than regale it, I would point you to Steve-O-Ghost stories.

Like, that's what to be called it. I told it on the H-3-H-3 podcast. And I don't think I can do a better job of recounting. So on YouTube, search Steve-O-Ghost stories. Christopher M., if time travel was possible, would you want to go into the future or would you like to visit the past? Well, anybody would want to go to the past, I think, to improve their situation now, right?

Look at back to the future, too. Hey, Steve-o, don't jump off that cliff, asshole. If you can go back, though, like, honestly, is there anything you would change that one thing you always remember, like, fuck, there are plenty of things that you would change? I would certainly like to have gotten sober at least two years sooner. If I could, if I could. Why two years?

Because I wouldn't want to be very careful with the space time continuum up until that point. And I just really mismanage opportunities. And I got, like, the last two years of my drinking and using were really fucking destructive, humiliating, and counterproductive. So, I mean, I suppose I needed all of that humiliation and destruction in order to, like, be properly motivated. So I probably wouldn't want to mess with that either. Dave, P, is there a specific stunt that you performed for Jackass that you look back and regret? for jackass it's all the regrets are all about um not thinking deeper you know there were just certain things that i didn't go for and and said the footage didn't make it anywhere you know like um

there's nothing i regret doing it's uh you know we regret what we haven't done it's better to regret what you have done than what you haven't done and and that's true in my case i like it mattie asked what stunt did you end up not doing but wish you would have that's the there's so many of them. All right. The one that comes to mind is I'm trying to unicycle over a balance beam

over hot coals in India. I just couldn't fucking commit to it, man. And it was such a magnificent set. And I just fucking set it up for nothing. Were they pissed? No. Yeah, I mean, it's not like that.

Like, I was pissed. Like, nobody could possibly have been more disappointed in me than I was. And then on the subsequent movie, we did the fire gauntlet as a redemption. And it just wasn't nearly as cool. Were you ever fucked up on a lot of stunts? Yeah. On my own time for my Too Hot for TV DVD series, that was,

oh, and all those are shucking streaming at stebo.com, too. To go to the bottom, Stevo TV. The, dude, but it was a much darker operation. When, you know, I was shooting on my own time. Like, then it was like, you know, like, if we were too fucked up filming for Jackass, then it would be a little bit like the end of Boogie Night where he's like, my cut card, I'm ready to fuck. And he's all tweaked out on meth.

And that Bert Reynolds says, like, look, man, I can't have you on camera like this. You're a fucking mess, you know? Right. There's a little bit, like, Jackass is a little bit more. Like, that makes our director, Jeff Tremaine, a bit like that, Bert Reynolds, you know? right it's not it's not the spirit of jack in jagas you see us like uh you know over the years like hung over even acknowledging being hungover there was not that like active i'm wasted on camera because that was never the spirit of it it was very much the spirit of what i did on my own time though

right lee ann p what's your biggest fear um i mean it's like uh i think uh you know fear i've heard i've heard fear defined as uh you know being it either not getting what you want or losing what you have is the basis of uh of of of of all fear i think and um you know like not getting what you want i want to be loved i want to be important you know like the idea of not getting that you know or like losing everything like of course i've worked so hard to save what I have like I'm afraid of losing it so I think fear is pretty basic in that sense Alyssa C final question what is the one thing you couldn't imagine living without besides Wendy oh my god if fucking anything happened to Wendy I would and she comes from the street so

I give her like so much freedom I just let her roam around I'm gonna do that right now and uh it's it's just panic inducing when I'm walking around looking for it I can't find her, but at the same time, I have to give her freedom. Yeah. But if it's something I can't live without, I would kind of just say my team, you know? I've got a, you know, my guy, Scott Randolph is like my right hand and everything that I do with, you know, production and merchandising. And then I've got my other guy, Paul, Paul Briskey, who's my editor. And I'd be fucked without both those guys.

Those guys are my secret weapons. That's awesome. And then I have another secret weapon who's a guy named Guy Hickey, who lives in Australia. And this kid, Guy Hiky, is just badass. Like, I met him as a fan, like probably. probably 15 years ago maybe I don't know and then this kid can just he can just it's just whatever it is like if it's finding something it's really hard to find like he'll find it you know right there's just a lot so yeah I can't live without the people who um who I work with

you know the last thing I want to say is I just keep seeing you not getting into barnum bailey circus school and i just i want to know how devastated at that time in your life you were i did get into the circus school specifically it was called uh ringling brothers in barnum and billy clown college right and uh and 33 clowns got it got accepted all 33 clowns graduated but uh the idea was only 10 of them 10 of the clowns got contracts with the Ringling Circus, and I was not one of those 10. Do you think you were worthy? You should have been selected?

I mean, I, like, just stuck out. Like, as soon as I showed up, it was like, we know, with this guy. I mean, the reason I went to Clown College was because I wanted to become a crazy, famous stuntman. And I just wasn't getting anywhere on my own, you know. It was my home video camera, like, just nobody cared. And I just, when I found out about Clown College, I thought, Oh, Ringling Brothers in Barnum Bailey.

Like, it's this reputable, you know, it's not even this. It's just like a known name. And if I was, if I could graduate from Clown College, then I would be a circus professional. People would take me more seriously as a stuntman. So it was more just a means to an end. And my, like, it was evident when I got the Clown College that I had no aspirations of being a clown. You know, my, I just, I was just using this as a way to, to further my goal of becoming a stuntman.

So out of the gate, that, there was that. And then there was like, I was fucking drunk every night, you know? Like, in the first week, they had to take me to the hospital. I get my head stapled together for shit that I was doing. Like, it had nothing to do with fucking clowning. Like, so, yeah, I kind of disqualified myself pretty aggressively right away. It just sounds like a movie, a guy who goes to clown school and then doesn't get selected as the clown to go to the circus. it just sounds like a movie

I mean perhaps you know I wrote a movie that my buddy's actually trying to to get made which is which is crazy and it's definitely about a clown and how bad does it hurt to get your

when you stapled your balls would you do you stapled I mean there's less nerve endings in your ball sack you know like I would never put a staple through my actual ball. But through the skin, it's not as bad. Like what I've done repeatedly for years,

like stapling my ball sack to my leg. And I think that in some cases, there's been the staple holes in my ball sack, like became infected. Like there was a couple times where I did that and did another trick where I flipped my balls back and forth and catch them in a mangina. And doing that like ruptured something one time.

like it was filled with blood my whole ball sack it looked like a plum and uh but you know for the most part it's been pretty minor is your girlfriend or your uh your fiancee does she want to look down there and like kind of examined you have scars on your balls and things no and if she was going to be examining and she wouldn't be looking for scars that's for sure uh but yeah no my my girl my girl's pretty fucking down with uh like all the she's okay with this because it's pretty shocking well dude look man this is this has been awesome because i don't really i don't know you i think i might have seen you somewhere years ago but i feel like it's just so easy to talk to you you're so open i just love that about you and and stevo

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And every single copy that I sell at stebo.com is... personally autograph, you know. I'm actually down here at our warehouse in Carlsbad, just signing books right now. Awesome. And it's just a fucking juicy-ass book. It's meaningful for me to get it out there because, like, you know,

my story, to the extent that it's inspiring and uplifting and just crazier than shit, it means a lot for me to get it out there. What's it called? It's called a professional idiot, a memoir. Professional. idiot a memoir get his book i mean your story's incredible and it's touching too you can just tell that there's a lot of heart and you know you've had a lot of shit going on your life a lot of

success and all that but you're all striving to be the best we can and achieve some sort of like being okay with ourselves just being like all right i'm a fuck up this is who i am but i'm doing my best fuck it you know what i mean for sure man so man it was a joy talking to you man anytime you want to come on man you're you're a pleasure yeah i appreciate Dude, I was looking forward to this. It was well worth my time and thank you to you as well as everybody else who listens. I also love to do this when I'm on a podcast that I think was a good experience. It's speaking directly to the people who are still listening because as podcasters, we've got to drop off rate, you know,

and those who stick around to the very end of the podcast who represent that fucking full of retirement. attention rate, they really are the stars, you know, they're what we do at all. So speaking to those people who are still listening this deep into the podcast, an extra thank you for me. And if you really did enjoy it or anything, like shoot me a tweet because when I say, hey, you know, I listened all the way, if I see tweets, I listened all the way to the end on this podcast, fucking thank you. Like those tweets mean like more than anything.

So, uh, shoot me a tweet if you're still listening and, and, uh, thanks. to everybody involved. You're a good dude, man. It was a pleasure talking to you. Hey, likewise, man. Thank you. I like him. There's something just kind of, I don't give a F about him, but I do.

Not me, but like himself. Like he doesn't, like, he almost has it. I don't care, but I do care attitude, doesn't he? Yeah. There's something about that that's kind of sweet. It's like, I'm just going to do my own thing and I just don't care about, but I do care how it affects people and i am a fuck up but uh you know good for him i enjoy talking to him i think he was like who the fuck is this guy and then we started talking and but i was kind of like

i you know i know him from jackass and all that stuff but i really liked him i thought he was a a solid guy uh thank you to everyone out there listening thank you uh check out the the sunspin uh new uh music video where you can find on instagram on uh sunspin band uh or i'm sure we'll post on Twitter and it's YouTube and you can also go to sunspin.com and get all the merch, the sweet CDs and t-shirts and hats and lunch boxes. Tell us what you think. You can go to hello at inside. Look at this. It's right here. See? You can go to hello at inside of you podcast.com, right? But you can leave messages there. I check them here and there. You can go to the inside of you online store and get a bunch of small little shit and lunchboxes and shirts and stuff. That's

that please write a review if you love the show uh to all my patrons out there here's looking at you i appreciate all your love and your uh devotion to the podcast i got these new shirts for the top tier pot patrons and it's like a one year sort of like bomb squad b a um rosem bomb squad right here's right here's a patron shout out nancy d mary b lea s trisha f sarah v they're all right here look at this little lisa e ykeko jill e b roren h laurent g nico p robin s j W. Robert I. Jason W. Stephen J. Kristen. Okay. You're on top of it. Amelia. Oh. Good Lord. Allison L. Jess J. Lucas M. Raj.

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Remember those the next time. Lillian A, Michelle K, well, not Michelle, Hannah B, Michael, S. I could do Tracy Morgan, Talia, Luke H, John, S. I don't really do him. Andrew, for a second I did. see his thing on the golden globes no was it bad no he well he uh he announced uh i think it was best animated and the winner was soul but he read the card as sowl you sow people dying it's great you know if i did that i would get just hounded like this guy is an idiot you're an idiot

but him he just everybody just thinks it's funny it was on brand and it's on brand he didn't mean to do it he didn't mean to do it yeah of course he didn't mean to do it uh talia m mike s luke John S. Andrew T. Claire M. Liz J. Laura L. Chad B. Rachel E. Or Rochelle. I think it's Rochelle. But it's Rachel because there's no E at the end of it. So it's Rachel. I'm right. Nathan E. Brandel D. Taylor K. Neal A. Marion E. Meg K. Janelle P. Dan P. Jennifer J. Wayne M. Ojetta. When I say Ojetta, you say OJetta. Lorraine G. Guys, thank you so much for being here with us today with Ryan and myself. I really appreciate you and you take the time to listen to the podcast every week. So spread the word, email your friends, get them to listen, write a review, do all that shit.

Thank you for allowing me to be in sight each and every one of you from Ryan and myself here in the Hollywood Hills. Lifestyles of the rich and famous. It's lifestyles of the rich and famous. Michael Rosenbaum's hat. It's lifestyles of the less rich and they're not as famous. That's what it is. And there'll be people who write and go, Michael, don't do that to yourself.

You're famous. You're rich. I'm like, well, rich, believe me. I know rich. I know folks that are rich. Rich is when you don't have to worry about anything. Wealthy is like old money. Like, yes, would you like to drive the rules this evening, ma'am?

Oh, mom. Yeah. All right. Wave at the camera. Okay, bye. We love you. I was going to be, um, I was blaming on the rain. Football season is here.

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