Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - ZACH BRAFF: Why SCRUBS Almost Never Came Back, Living With Depression & The Pain Behind the Smile

Episode Date: July 21, 2026

Zach Braff (Scrubs, Garden State, Shrinking) joins me again this week for a conversation that swings from gut busting funny to genuinely tender. Zach opens up about living with depression, the highs and lows of a creative life, and the shingles nightmare he survived while directing Florence Pugh in A Good Person. We get into the real story behind bringing Scrubs back, rebuilding Sacred Heart from nothing, and what it takes to earn the trust of legends like Harrison Ford and Morgan Freeman. He also gets honest about being hard on himself, losing his dog Roscoe after 17 years, and the rescue that became his best antidepressant. Thank you to our sponsors: 🔹 Blue Chew: bluechew.com + “inside” ❤️ This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/inside and get on your way to being your best self 🛍️ Shopify: https://shopify.com/inside 💰 Download Cash App Today: https://click.cash.app/ui6m/5pqyueaa #CashAppPod. __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: ⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou⁠⁠ 👕 Inside Of You Merch: ⁠⁠https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/⁠⁠ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 ⁠⁠https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show⁠⁠ __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: ⁠⁠https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/⁠⁠ 🤣 TikTok: ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast⁠⁠ 📘 Facebook: ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/⁠⁠ 🐦 Twitter: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod⁠⁠ 🌐 Website: ⁠⁠https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We talk about the Scrubs reboot that's killing it. It's going, they're filming season two. Rooster, you saw Rooster. I just watched, I was on a plane recently. I watched the entire season on the plane. I have, I got to watch. It's a nice little watch. I love Zach.

He's such a good guy. He's so smart. And I love having him on the podcast. So without further ado, let's get inside of Zach Brath. Where you get nervous for a role. Oh my God. I get panicked. Do you get anxiety?

Yeah. I live with anxiety. What are you doing? I was just taking a live picture. I always get nervous, but that's fun. I look forward to it. Let's get everything out of today we can. And how much time do you have left?

And how are you going to use it well? So come on now. We would have to do another inside of you. But actually, but that's kind of what you're doing, Michael. I mean, you're on this road, this journey of what's inside. of you. Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. That's the difference between the way things work now in the industry and the way things did work, because before you go in there, and it's like a personal thing. It's like your personality and

you get a vibe, you get direction. Now it's like, this is my interpretation. I'm going to put it on tape. And that, and that's it. That was a weird one in that they said, we're not going to, everyone's got to read. We're talking about Widows Bay. We're talking about Widows Bay, which is a great show. Yeah. And normally when I don't get a part, you don't watch it. I'm pissed.

And I refuse to watch it. I know. I've done that. But the pilot script was so good. Yeah. I was intrigued. Yeah. Matthew Reese is incredible.

And I'm really enjoying the show. When I read for it, I was doing something completely different. And I wish that I had gotten in the room with them to be like, like what's the tone of it? Exactly. You don't know. Yeah. I mean, it's like you read something and it's just like, oh, this is obviously broad. There's this thing that's coming to the island.

And, you know, all of a sudden you're just like, wait a minute, wait a minute. Are you saying it? And then you're like, no, no, we want you to play it. Yeah. I mean, the tone of that could have been, I mean, he's amazing director, hero, Marai. The tone of that could have gone a totally different direction. Right. The tone they chose is amazing.

Yeah, it's perfect. It's kind of like Atlanta in a way. There's over there's overlaps in. in the vibe because it's you know hero is the director but uh anyway i love it and i think i'm not a big horror guy at all yeah but i think you'll enjoy it i watched the first episode and i haven't continued but does it get kind of scary and creepy there's lots of jump scares and there's freaky shit um but also you're the character actors everyone in it is so talented stephen root i mean come on he's great living legend would you do would you direct a horror movie or a tv show

i don't think i'm i mean i never say never but i don't i don't there's guys like You who are directors, who it's so their jam, I feel like they're always going to, they know, they know all the, they know the world. They know it better than I do. I'm not that into it. But you know. I occasionally see one I love. I thought, I thought. I thought weapons. I thought. Hereditary. Great. I guess sinners is technically. Sinners is a horror movie. Sinners was awesome. That was awesome. Was the one, Heretic? Was that the one with Hugh Grant? Yes. That was great. Where it was kind of in the woods in this house and these two girls go there. That was surprisingly good. That was great. I like that. Yeah, it's unique. Weapons was marketed so well by Warner Brothers that it got me to go, I'm going to go see this. Wow. And I wouldn't normally go see horror. Do you get scared? I just don't like a jump scare. It's not, you know, it's not entertainment. But psychological. And I'm talking about these are the movies we're talking about. They're not like gory, scary. Weapons was kind of gory. I know. but it's funny at the same time. Like Halloween, like, I'm not going to see Halloween. Yeah, that scares you. I think I have trauma from my childhood of seeing, like, Halloween three, like, too young. Really?

Nope, I'm out. See, I have trauma because my mother forced me to watch horror movies when I was, like, eight. She'd bring home, hey, I rented motel hell and make them die slowly. I'm like, yeah, I don't think I should be watching this. I'm eight. I didn't say that, but now. Dude, I have the same story. You know what the first is a good trivia for you.

Okay. And you'll probably know the answer because. Maybe. I feel like you're going to know the answer. Tobe Hooper. What was the first PG-13 movie? PG-13. And it should have been rated R.

I believe so because I saw it too young and had a traumatic reaction. Alien? Temple of Doom. Temple of Doom was PG-13? Yeah. And I remember whatever age I was, when he reached in and pulled out the heart, my mom looked over at me. I'll never forget this. And whatever face I was making, she said,

said, do you want to go to the lobby and play arcade games? And I was like, yes, please. You remember that? Yeah, I remember me like, get me the fuck out of here. Did you end up watching it again? Yeah, of course. As an adult, I've seen it. But I mean, I was much happier playing arcade games in the lobby than watching a heart very realistically pulled out of a chest cavity. How about Jaws? Jaws was PG. Yeah, because they didn't have the delineation yet. Yeah, but when Quint gets bitten in it. in half on the thing you're like are what are you doing yeah and then i saw like some horror early too early and being like no i'm good what's your favorite genre is it comedy my favorite

genre i guess is what i is what i usually make both in tv and film and that is something that makes you laugh and then also hurts your heart right i would like you're really good at that thank you you're really good at that my favorite kind of entertainment is that do you think you're do you think you're like a hopeless romantic in a way or do you think you're like a sensitive guy you're a very sensitive person yeah but i think what it is is my father used to bring me to musicals as a kid wow and um the thing about a good musical is that it's very they're usually stereotypically funny and then they also have romance and then there's a moving there's a part that hopefully will break your heart a bit and make your eyes well yeah and maybe that just got indoctrinated into me early on

certainly my father who's now passed away was very into movies how long uh he's been he's he's I think passed right before COVID I think that you know your parents taste obviously rubs off on you know and he was very into you know Annie Hall and and and and and and um Mel Brooks and you know so and then of course theater so I was going to see a lot of shows you know Neil Simon's stuff on on Broadway, for example, with Matthew Broderick back in the day, they, they too were like funny and then they always found a place to make you go off. Yeah. And that's the key.

It's hard to like not overdo it just enough where it, you know, it's, it's something. It's an art. It really has an art for a tour. I'm not always good at holding back because I like that. Are you crying behind the camera? Oh, yeah. A lot of things. Really?

What's a scene that you think of? right away that you're like, oh, I was emotional during that scene. Oh, my God, Florence Pugh's A-A speech in a good person. I just got goosebumps. I'm embarrassed to tell you. I got goosebumps on my thighs when I said the words. That's awesome. I think it's quitting Tarantino who said, make the movie you want to see.

And I really do that. For better or for worse, you know, sometimes they're successful, sometimes they're not. I definitely make a movie that I would love to see. And the shows I direct are shows I would love, I love, like I love Rooster and Ted Lasso and Trinking and Scrubs. You'd love to be in them. I love to be in them, but I'm saying I love, if I had nothing to do with them, that's what I'd be watching. Yeah. And so for better, for worse, I'm making what I like to see.

And sometimes that can be too much with emotion or sentimentality for some people. But for me, in the spirit of Tarantino's make for the movie you want to see, I'm I'm like, you know, oh, I love this. I mean, is there a technique to it in terms of like, okay, this has got to be a moment where the audience really feels and they love this person's or the save the cat kind of thing? Yeah. Is there something like, let's put on a longer lens.

Let's do a little push in. Let's, you mix it up. I think the biggest trick is not, by the way, I just, it's funny. I didn't even realize. Temple it down. Oh, that's Raiders. I know, but it's just funny that I, of all the things in this room, I just told that anecdote and clocked Harrison.

Look, kid. That's my only impression. Um, kid. Can you do what? I've been working with him on, I know. I can do old, old man, grumpy, surly Harrison really. Let me see it. Let's shoot this piece of shit.

Do you just laugh when he says that? Yeah, I mean, I think it's one of his go-to lines to make the crew laugh. It's like he's got it locked and loaded always. All right. Let's shoot this piece of shit. Yeah. Inside of you is brought to you by Shopify. If you aren't with Shopify, I don't know what to say.

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That's Shopify.com slash inside. In answer to your previous question, the trick is not shooting your Wad too many times or too early. Right. You should take that as a lesson in your own life. Yeah. No, I'm kidding. No, I'm taking it to heart. The audience is going to only give you so many times to go to an emotional place.

Otherwise, it becomes too maudlin. So you do have to try and be strategic with how many times you go there. Has it been difficult ever to get something that you want out of an actor that you're just not getting? And it just takes a little time. And it's like, maybe I'm not giving you the right direction. Maybe you're not understanding it. Maybe it's just not. And is it frustrating?

or are you a pretty patient person when that sort of thing happens? When they're incredible actors, you know they have it in them. So one can get in their head and going, what am I not saying to get what I want? I mean, this person's brilliant. Right. So sometimes it's just you're not aligning or they're tired or they're cranky or you're tired and cranky or it's three in the morning and they're just everyone's on edge. And then other times there's times where you're like, shit, we miscast this person. Not that they're a bad actor.

They're just not going to get it. It's not a good fit. That's why people say, you know, directing is 70% casting. Yeah. It's because if you've got the right people in the roles, it becomes a lot easier. It kind of runs itself. Like, they know what they're doing. Yeah.

Like just give them a little, oh, just a little nod to that script exposition. Of course, because they are the person. So you're like, I'm like, I want you to say it louder and be a little angry or stand over there. Yeah. No, of course, there's exceptions to that. But I do feel when it becomes evident, like with a day player or someone that that's just miscast, it's not their fault, they're just miscast. Yeah, yeah.

That you go, shit, I fucked up. It's on the director's fault. It's director's fault. You pick the wrong person. But you never let them know that. No, no, no. Like, oh, boy, did I fuck up on you? No, sometimes people are recast and you got, and it's, it's courteous and kind to be like,

hey, let me tell you what happened. It's not you. You've done that before? call the actor. Called them or texted them or emailed them depending on how well I knew them. You're great. It just wasn't the right fit. Yeah.

Or the thing got cut. We'd love to work with you again. You're so talented. We, you know, we do a lot of stuff. I'd love to work with you. You're awesome. It's just, it got cut for time. Or I got to be honest with you, you're very talented.

It just wasn't the right fit for the character. And so that's the right thing to do. I have a friend who was in, this kind of went viral. She was in a movie. And she did all this stuff and she improbed a bunch of funny stuff. She's an improv sketch comedy gal. And when she watched the thing on TV, she had been replaced by Hock Tua, the Hoctua gal. And no one had told her.

So she's like sitting there and she's got her friends gathered to watch it. Oh, boy. And here comes her scene and it's Hock Tua. No one told her. No one told her. See, I just find that like. You know, there's big directors out there and they, you know, they don't have time, they don't have this, but like, I don't know. I just feel like. Someone should tell you. Someone should tell you. It's not the director, the cast director. Someone should say like, hey, so you're not, so you don't gather your family to watch your big scene in the movie. That has to be emotional. You know, your friends are there like, uh, I got cut. This is a different actress. I know. You should, I always, I always see things first. Well, I guess I don't do too much of, of, uh, of this anymore. But like when I first started and I had a small part in something,

and I definitely want to go see it first to see how much of my stuff made it in the movie. Yeah. I mean, do you ever, um, like with Scrubs, right, the reboot, you know, we call it a revival. A revival. Yes, you call it a revival. People on the web get really, yeah, it's a revival. You know, you know the web worlds. You have to use the right terminology. It's a revival. But, well, first of all, what made you finally say yes to, to, to, to, to, bringing this back. I always, always super open to it. It's just had the certain ingredients had to be in place. Bill, Lawrence, you can't do it without Bill, at least working on the concept and the pilot. You can't just do it without Bill. It's his, it was, it was a singular vision from the guy. Yeah.

It's a very unique tone. He's got to be a part, he's got a lot going on, but I'm not going to do it if he's not involved in A, setting up the writer's room, setting up what the, what the, what the angle is of the revival, working on the pilot, being there to mentor everybody. So I was always down, but that took a long time because in boring business bullshit that your audience won't care about, Bill has a very elaborate deal at Warner Brothers. Scrubs is a Disney property. So they don't want him working on other things that aren't Warner Brothers properties. So it took like a couple of years for those two companies to figure out a carve out for Bill to participate. Did you continue to push him? Or did he need pushing? He didn't need push. No one needed

pushing. Everybody wanted to do it. I mean, it's something everybody loved. Everybody wanted to do it. It really was just figuring out how. And also, the hospital had been torn down. So how do we do that? We wanted to come back to Sacred Heart. We didn't want to do a spin-off. Like, season nine of the show had been sort of a, but should have been labeled a spin-off. It didn't really work for multiple reasons. And so those of us that love the show, and we respect everyone that worked on nine. There were some super talented people that came out of them. But we sort of think of eight is the logical end of the show.

And then in doing a revival, we wanted to come back to the infamous Sacred Heart Hospital. So how do we do that because it's become condos in the valley now? So there was a lot of strategy. How did you do that? You just shot the exteriors, old exteriors? No. No, how you do that?

We built a hospital. We did. We built a, We had to go to Vancouver to do it because of the scale of it. We built over 30,000 square feet of a hospital. I mean, basically there's a full floor of... Dumbfounded. You've got to come take a tour of it, man.

Since you're a film geek like me and into like sets and stuff, the thing is... Dude, and everybody loves scrubs. It's colossal. It's like a... Isn't that expensive? It's very expensive. That's why we wanted to make the show here in L.A., but ultimately we weren't allowed to.

Picture a full floor of a hospital, like to scale. On the old hospital, we used to shoot on three of the four floors. The third floor was offices for, again, in dressing rooms. But three of the four floors and, of course, the back entrance, which is a lot of fun stuff takes place. We shot on all those. So in recreating the set, we had to do a little bit of a hodgepodge of greatest hits of sets. But it is a full floor of the hospital to scale. And then our producing director, Randall Winston came up with a brilliant idea.

The back was so pivotal to show. How do you recreate the back? So you took a loading dock and then we built it out. And you're only building set-wise the first level. And you build the ramp and the door into the loading dock. And then what we do, for those people who don't know this term, it's called a set extension. So in post-production, we are adding the... the rest of the hospital in visual effects.

So the first floor is real and it's there, but then when there's a wide shot, the other three floors are added in post. Wow. A lot of amazing craftsmanship went into it. I would say. I mean, do, when you're acting and you have other directors, how many did you direct?

I only directed the first one. Just the first one. I couldn't do more on that. I'm telling you, I directed a movie where I was the lead and I was directing it, and I almost died. I got shingles last time.

dude your stress levels just go it's like i don't know and you you do that you like have a propensity for sort of throwing yourself in overwhelming projects that don't you ever feel like you bit off more than you can chew i did with a good person i wasn't even in it but i got shingles because it was so hard how painful is that oh dude and on on the worst places like my my undercarriage really yeah like most times he should write this down he's taking notes yeah we write this But this is good. I should get my shingles vaccine, shouldn't I? You definitely. Are you over 50? I'm 54.

Yeah, dude, you got to get the shingles vaccine. You don't want this shit. Have you had chickenpox? I think I did. Okay. I'm writing this down right now. If you look it up on the web, they'll say most times, and this is just what I looked up, it happens in your torso. You know what God chose for me?

Shaft. Taint. Shaft. Because isn't it like under the, it's a herpes zoster that anyone can get. No, it's, it's not in the herpes. I don't know that answer. I should. I'm a doctor, but it's, it's chicken, it's chicken pox. It's a cousin of chicken pox. Right. So if you've had chicken pox, you can get this because it lives dormant in your body. And it spreads by, by, can you spread it? The only way you can, like, you, you can

spread it if they touch the open wounds. You can not, so you have open wounds like everywhere. Like if you had it, if you had it, you wouldn't be giving it to me from across the room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like if you had a partner who had it, you couldn't be in bed with them rubbing around. Right. But you don't really want to rub around when you have open wounds. Actually, Florence Pugh's grandmother had had, had shingles. So she actually, we were dating at the time, and she was the one who's like, that's shingles. You're like, what?

I was like, what the fuck are shingles? And so I looked it up. And by the way, we were in the middle of production. Jesus. It was a nightmare. You're in pain. This is horrible pain. I have a photo of me in the trailer on a night shoot.

So lunch is like one in the morning. In film, for those of you know, we call lunch, the meal break in the middle of the day. So it doesn't matter when you started. In this particular night, lunch was like one in the morning. And I have a picture of me on the floor of the trailer, like in the fetal position. Who took it?

Florence took it, I think. I'm naked with like a dog blanket over me. I'm in so much pain. I had tried to use, oh, it's so gross. I'm not going to tell you the details, but I had to like, okay, suck it up and then go direct the second half of the day. I was in so much pain. Were you irritable?

Irritable, you're tired. Come on, we got to get this done. All right, shingles, back off. Yeah, well, no, I don't think anyone but Florence knew I had shingles. Right. I don't tell anybody. Well, you know, people get shingles. It's not anything.

I know, but I didn't want anyone to think like, oh, our director's down for the count. It was more, you know, I was directing Morgan at night. It was like the hardest night shoot of the movie. And I was, that was the apex of my pain. Like directing Morgan. Morgan Freeman. Oh, right, right, right. Right, right.

So Morgan was there. It was a night shoot. It was tough. It was, it was, you know, I don't want to hear about your singles. Don't you bring up my shingles. I don't want your shingles. Don't you bring up shingle. You give this old man shingle.

Don't you give me your shingle. Was, do you still keep in contact with him? I guess I just missed my friend. I remember the first time I had you. God, you're so good at it. Did this come up last time? No, no, no, I didn't do Morgan. I didn't do Morgan, but like, Andy to frame, cold, true.

Just genius. I love him. I wish somebody can impersonate me. That makes you feel famous. Did I tell you last time that he was my outgoing voicemail message?

Yeah. Do you have it still? No. No, I lost it. But he lost a bet to me and when he lost the bed, it was, hello,

this is Morgan Freeman. Zach Braff can't come to the phone right now leave a message. That's pretty good. He's fixing his singles. Yes. He is applying ointment

to his taint. Do you still text him ever? Yeah, I text him. Really? He texts you back? Sometimes. What do you say? He's fickle.

He's like a lady that's playing hard to get. You never know when he's going to. One time he texts. Fine. One time he, then I tell you that after every take one, he goes, why? When takes one's over, he's a director, you go, that's great, it's great. We're going to go again.

Why? Why do we need to go again? Just why. What would you say? Well, Morgan, you were awesome. There's some things I want to tweak and then the DP's going to move a light. And I want to make sure that someone so goes to this mark, but. Did you ever think to say, because this is filmmaking and it's never one take?

You know this better than anyone? Yes. But you don't want to say that tomorrow. Why? That's hilarious. He once texted me because he texts me out of the blue. He once texted me, did you get a buyout for these T-Mobile ads? Are you making money every time they run?

Do you direct them, by the way? I don't, but they're very collaboratively made. It's like no other commercial. You guys fell into, that's just awesome. Do you know that we do like... You bring friends in now too, don't you? They're made in a very unique way. We make them as short specs before we ever, they ever make it to air.

We shoot them like in my backyard with like an iPhone and like with just just to give the company instead of storyboards like a really cheaply shot iPhone version of the execution. You come up with this or they give you the sort of the Don Draper of T-Mobile is a guy named Brian Klugman. one of my very good friends. He's a filmmaker and he's an actor. He's an awesome guy. And he sort of fell into just being like brilliant at at commercial at commercial at commercial. But the way that he makes his spots is usually like a collaborative thing. He comes up with the idea. And then he's like, let's workshop it. Let's figure it out. Let's make it funnier. How can we make it funnier? And so we do sort of like many short films where we, we especially the big ones for the Super Bowl ones where we just sort of sit there laughing all day. And then he'll cut together the funniest shit. And then we,

showing that to the company, not a storyboard, which is always better. Wow, that's genius. Yeah, it's really cool. No one ever does that. I mean, I'm sure other people do, but ours is unique in that we... How many have you done, by the way? I don't know how many spots total, but we've done, I think, five Super Bowl ads. Gosh.

And then what's funny is like for the, for the, the Mamoa one, which was a really funny one, we didn't have a moa yet. So we had a stand in when we're doing the short film iPhone version. And then in post, we just put like a South Park giant, a Mamoa head and then move the lips like this, like South Park style. But that's even funny to look at with an animated head. So like you give them the full experience. Oh, man.

It's funny. Does Team Mobile just love you guys? They have been. They've been so good to us. They just keep bringing you back. You want to do more? Your agent calls you? You want to do more?

Well, so, you know, I hope it keeps going. You know, we've been a great partner for them. They sold a lot of the, the, what we sell mostly is the modem is the 5G, you know, 5G, you know, 5G wireless 5G in your house. All you do is put it in your window and plug it in and then you've got 5G in your house. And it's fucking hugely popular. And we were sort of the two to introduce it to the world. And they just keep hiring it's because it's selling so well.

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Visit cash.com slash legal slash podcast for more disclosures. Were you concerned at all when you were doing the revival that, I don't know, it's been, how many years was it since you had filmed? 17. 17. Were you about like, well, we were younger? Can we jump back into this? Can we?

Or did you feel like we, do we know this like the back of our hands? We knew like the back of our hands. And also, it is me and Donald. I mean, it is, it's real. That's who we really are. Yeah, you guys are. I mean, the show is obviously a heightened version of us and we're doctors. But that's pretty much our sense of humor.

Right. And people were like, well, they're 51 now. should they be more mature? I'm like, we aren't. And I'm sure you don't feel, uh, no, I feel old. I'm sure you feel as silly as you did when you were 30, don't you? Uh, yeah, I feel silly. And I, you know, I'm always joking around and playful, but, you know, there's, there's definitely a maturity. It's hard to say to me that hold your breath here. I'm not that mature, but inadvertently, the older you get, you become sort of. Of course. But I'm saying, in terms of sense of humor,

Donald and I are still laughing at the same shit. We're still laughing at the stuff that's so silly. And we're not doing as much like riding on his back and yelling eagle. We sort of got that out of the way on the pilot. But, you know, there's definitely physical comedy and there's stuff that's funny to us. But I think the audience aged along with us.

They were younger watching with us. And now a lot of them, as they tell us, Oh, they're watching it with their kids. They're introducing their kids to the show. Yeah. And so, you know, eight years is a pivotal time that the show was on that a lot of people grew up with it. Right. And it means a lot to a lot of people.

I'm very aware of that. I'm very respectful of the fans' love for it. So we were very purposefully trying to make something that the fans would love. And threading that needle is so daunting and scary. Yeah. And I'm just thrilled that they like it. I mean, it killed. It killed.

Yeah. I mean, it killed. It killed. I can't believe it, but I never thought the fans would embrace it and love it. Dude, I still have friends that are just like, dude, I can't wait for the scrubs group, like, you know, like grown men. I was so nervous, man. I knew, I had no idea what the critics would think they actually ended up liking it. They liked it.

They were shocked. But then the fan reaction, we were so, I was so stressed because I was doing this for them. I feel like I know what they like, but the tone of scrubs is so tricky to get right. And the set was a total fucking recreation. And there were so many variables. And also, to be honest, I'm so happy it did so well. But for me, as the executive producer and one of the stars of the show and the director of the show, I feel like episodes one through nine of season one were the ultimate R&D for season two.

Right. Because we'd learned so much about like, okay, what's working, feeling out the characters, new characters introducing, you know, students because we're a teaching hospital, introducing new people like Vanessa Bayer, uh, fantasies, you know, what does it like to do a fantasy in 2026? How should we adjust them? Like there was so much R&D. And now like we're really, now we're dialed, now we're in the pocket and ready to go crush more. You want to do more? Oh, we've already been picked up for two. Two what? Season two. So that's eight more episodes? It's 10 more, uh, officially with, with the possibility of it being 13. I mean, it seems like

Everything you do kind of is knock on wood, but it's like gold. I've been having a very good run in the last year, but I am knocking wood because I've had plenty of years where everything fucking fails. I think that makes you stronger and makes you work harder, isn't it? Yeah, but it also makes you get in the fetal position and spoon your dog. Do you get really, are you one of those that your high, your highs are really high and your lows are really low? Yeah.

I mean, not in a clinical sense, but I... But you get depressed. I definitely have depression. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And what do you do? Do you acknowledge it? Like, okay, this is why this is.

I see a therapist and I found things that help it a lot. Exercise helps it a lot. My dog helps it a lot. How important do you think is diet and exercise? You know, my shrink said to me, he said, the gym will put me out of business. Ah. Meaning. Right.

Yeah. That's the key. That's a big element of his protocols for mental health are that fitness is a big part of it. How often do you exercise? I try and I work out with a trainer three times a week and then I do hot yoga at least once a week. Cold plunge. I do sauna cold plunge every day that I can.

How can you, how long can you plunge? What I usually do is, it's funny for anyone, have you watched Rooster yet? No. Oh, you got to watch Rooster. Really? Really good. And I can say that because I only directed two of them. I'm going to watch it.

Johnny C. McGinley, who plays Dr. Cox, is in Rooster. I have Rooster and shingles in my email. now. Yeah, rooster shingles taint. Yes. My friend just got shingles and he's in so much pain and I said, I said, is it on your taint? And he goes, no. I go, well, then you're all right.

You go live. I go, repeat after me. At least they're not on my taint. You don't know how, that's huge though. You laugh, but that's huge. It's huge. Torso, torso better area for the open wound. Yeah.

Rooster's great. And in it, Johnny C. McGinley's character is, plays the dean of the school, the president of the school. And he's very into sauna and coal plunging, which Johnny C has been for years, long before this became a popular fad. Right. He has been doing it in a sauna and a, he doesn't have like a modern cold plunge with a refrigerator and built into it. He's got like a big tub and an ice machine and he dumps the ice and he's such a character and he's got all these rules for how you can, how you're supposed to behave. when you come over to Sonic Coal Plunge. And Bill Lawrence and I were going over regularly, and we just found it so funny.

So we started compiling all his ridiculous rules. And at the end of the summer, we had the Warner Brothers Sign Shop, make a professional sign that was all his stupid, ridiculous rules for behavior around his Sona Coal Punch. And so Bill decides to write this character bespoke perfect for Johnny C.

And in the show, as you'll see, he's a very avid sauna Coal Punger, and he has a list of rules that are there. What's a rule? He's a bit OCD. So like, like Bill, like he's got, it's literally like a motel size ice machine with an ice shovel that you fill buckets of and then dump them in the tub. Maticulous.

Maticulous. Now, if you leave the ice shovel in the ice, it's metal, it's going to, it's going to be a problem. You have to put it back in the ice shovel sleeve. So one of them, I got a text, like I got a text like, can you believe this? Bill Lawrence left the ice shovel. in the ice. And now everything's frozen around it. Didn't put it back in the sleeve.

And we're Bill and I are just cracking up, like, screenshoting the text. He's serious. He's like, he's kidding, but he's like, dude, come on. I think it's like 90% serious, but he's 5%, the 10% he's in on the joke. He knows you're going to laugh, but he's also like, you left a fucking plastic cup in my sauna? You know, it's funny?

It's unlike that when people are down in the basement when we're watching movies. Right. I have movie nights. And I go, never been invited. You know what? will invite you but it's mostly horror movies but when i don't do horror movies then i'll do it if you do a non-harm yeah but i'll say hey get your fucking feet off my leather uh table he goes oh next week i'm like guys no fucking feet i don't what do you live in a barn and they laugh but i'm like

i'm dead serious it's like i go look it's like you're just going to scuff it up remember and it's going to look ugly. Remember Eddie Murphy in trading places? Who's been putting their coals out on my Persian rug? That's a Persian rug from Persia. Yeah. I have a rule. You come, you enjoy yourself at my house. You don't have to worry about anything. But you know what? Clean the fuck up after yourself. Just clean up. Johnny C's version of that is a bit extreme and funny. And so we made this thing. And then we put it in the show. So when you watch Rooster and you see that, that's where it's real. That is great. So son a cold plunge, I started doing with Johnny. and he taught me like how to do it.

It's hard in the beginning. Yeah, in the beginning, it's hard. You got to just tell yourself like, go. Yeah, you're going to get in the ice plunge and be like, fuck this. How cold is it? I keep mine of 45. And how long do you go in? What I do is I do 15 minutes in the sauna.

And then I get in the plunge for 30 slow breaths. Like, so it's probably a little over a minute maybe. And then if you look online, everyone's going to tell you different things to do. But I found out what works for me. Yeah. I do that three rounds. So it takes about 45 minutes or so. And...

Feel like a new man. Oh, man. It does give you an energy. It gives you... It's like this... I'm ready to go. It's a natural high. It really is.

If you could, if it was sort of like... If it was okay to do this on set and they let you wear a robe and have a coal plunge in a sauna and you just unbreaks, you just cold plunge and get some energy, would you do it? Yeah, I mean, I had this fantasy... I'm sure someone's done this. I mean, I wouldn't really do it, but I love to build shit. So I was thinking about like making a sauna cold plunge trailer that everyone can use.

Dude. Because, yeah, it's like, it is, it's a natural, completely natural endorphine high. And it lasts for an hour. I did it this morning. You know, you become such a respected director, but do you think directing now that you still think like an actor first? Or have you fully shifted into storyteller mode? I think being an actor has definitely helped me know what what actors want to hear from a director and what's helpful and what's not helpful.

Yeah. I also think like my pacing out of when I steer the ship and when I don't is informed by being an actor. Like an actor doesn't want an acting note after take one. Never. We're just trying to figure some shit out. Yeah, yeah. Do you take one's just, oh, you guys. Yeah, let me figure it out.

Let me just, oh, this is weird putting my mug here. I'm not going to put my mug there anymore. Yeah. Are you to say the line like that again? Because if so, I'll do this. Like, so that's just one quick first example thing in my mind. An actor doesn't want you to come in and be like, hey, why are you doing that like on take one? You're exactly right.

Let me. So there's things I know from being an actor. You don't even give them notes. No, no. There's no reason. I don't say anything to them after take one unless there's like a continuity fuck up or it's like, or they're blocking their face or something. I don't see. Yeah.

Mostly it's more often to the, to the two camera teams, the operator and the dolly group. We need to be closer. We need to be wire. Yeah. Can you actually do. Dolly left a little bit and push in a tiny bit more. Yeah, that's great. Go there.

Or when you do the move, just go like so slow. Like make it last the whole speech. Like that's the kind of take one. Right, right, right. This has nothing to do with you guys. This is all technical stuff. Yeah. And I think also you don't want to get an actor's heads because actors can be crazy.

Yeah. Doing something wrong. I'm fucking up. Yeah. Can't figure it out. That's what that, you know, I heard this direction. Tell me if you ever use this. But one of my buddies who's a director.

So whenever you direct, never give an actor more than two notes at a time. If you have like five things, give them two, let them do those, and then bring back two notes. Or do you tend to go, this, this, this, this. So now they're overwhelmed. That's true that'll happen. And I'll make a joke sometime when a director tells me four things. I go, okay, I will now do all of that. If you know the person really well and you're like on take five, you can like, okay, we've got it.

But just a couple things. Do this, do this, do this. Give me one rearmed out of a. And usually if it's a lot, the actor's going to laugh and be like, all right, I'll do my best. Yeah. But if it's somebody you don't know that well or someone who's, you know, different, like a daunting legend, like a Harrison Ford or Morgan Freeman, you're definitely not doing that shit with them. Right. It's definitely more like be clear.

Specific. Be specific. Be clear. And not 10 things. To the bigger actors, the more famous they are, do you think they sort of. of maybe inadvertently test you when they first meet you. Yes. And they test you to see if you know what you're doing.

So you have an answer because Bruce Campbell was a buddy in mine, you know, Evil Dead. Yeah. But he said, you know, on Quick in the Dead. I was in a Sam Raining movie once. Where were you in? Oz the Great and Powerful. Oh, yeah. I was the animated monkey comic relief.

Dude, that's amazing. But I had to be there for six months. I thought I was going to be like an evokeable. in a booth for two hours. I'll send you a picture. You could throw up on the screen. It's me in a blue screen onesie, holding the physical puppet next to Franco,

and then in post, they just made them totally sick. How much did your back hurt after shooting that? I just went a little crazy because, but although it's a funny story because I, once Sam told me I had to be there for six months because he wanted me to improv and riff and, and be a part of it, I thought, oh, there's not a lot of humor in this movie.

And I have to be here anyway. Let me start this improvising humor and jokes, and hopefully I'll increase my part size because if I have to be here and there's no humor, I can be the comic relief monkey. Yeah, that's the idea. So little by little, I just started doing that. And did it help you?

Oh, yeah. And then other people, other cast members were like, Hey, can you rewrite my lines for me? Are you serious? Yeah. He didn't care. He's like, go. No, Sam loved it.

Sam was so collaborative. If it was, if it was better and funnier, he loved it. And little by little, they kept asking, they would ask me to come in and rewrite scenes that that I had nothing to do with. Jesus. And it wasn't like credited or for money. I was just like, yeah, this is fun. I'm like helping punch up a $300 million movie or whatever it was.

Yeah. Another person who worked on it, I don't know if he's even credited. was Alec Berg who created Silicon Valley and Barry. I mean, brilliant comedy writer. So that at a certain point, he and I would just sit around the monitors and think of funny jokes. And then we'd add them into the movie. And, you know, some made it, some didn't.

And then the president of production came to visit the set. And I said, you know what's going to happen, right? And I'm just kind of like, you know, schmoozing with them. I go, you're going to test this movie. And the test results are going to come back. and they're going to say more monkey. Did they? And then you're going to have to do reshoots with more monkey.

And I'm just trying to make him laugh. I'm just, yeah, yeah, yeah. I bet it happened. Yeah, it's exactly what happened. They tested the movie and they were like, more monkey. And so you have many more days did you shoot? We did like two more weeks of monkey, monkey punch up. That is awesome.

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That's betterhelp.com slash inside. You know, on Quicken the Dead, Sam's there and Bruce was kind of watching him work. Bruce just told me this story and he says, you know, what's his name? Gene Hatman, of course, comes up to him. He says, yeah, Gene, so you're going to say this and then this is what's going to happen. He's like, I'm not saying that. He's like, okay. Yeah, you don't have to say that.

that, but we just need you to do something because what you say triggers that person to do something and then that person from there. So it's important, whatever you want to say, whatever you want to do, nonverbal, whatever. And then he said, oh, in this other scene, oh, yeah, you're going to sit. He's not going to sit. He's like, okay, you don't have to sit, but here's why. I think it looks good on your character. But he always had a reason why he wanted him a certain way. And finally, he was like, never bothered him again. That's interesting. I definitely think there's a little. lot of testing going on in the beginning, especially with the big legends. I directed going in style, which was the remake, which was Morgan Freeman, Alan Arkin, Michael Kane, Ann Margaret,

Christopher Lloyd. And there was a lot of testing going on. And at times it was tough because you have to find the right line of being the director, but also completely deferential to these living legends. And then I won most of them over, I think. Is there some that you were like, damn, they just didn't like me? I don't think Alan Arkin liked me. Really? Yeah, rest in peace.

He's a legend. Legend. And he stole the movie. I'm the bombadee. He's a legend. I don't know that he ever, I think, he was very complimentary when he finally saw the movie. He said, you did a great job. But during production, I think he was, well, I had to be.

one experience, there's an experience where he, he just, I don't think he really loved the script, to be honest, and he, and he's brilliant, and he improved a lot of wonderful things that are in the movie. I have nothing but wonderful things to say about, but I do have a memory where there was a line that was quite funny and he wouldn't say it, just like you're saying about Quick in the Dead. And I was like, hmm, that's unfortunate because it's kind of a funny line. Yeah. And I go, he really won't say it. He goes, no, I don't like it anymore. And I'm just cut it. And I went and I realized like it doesn't really matter which of these. It wasn't a character specific joke.

Any of these. You had somebody else say it. Well, I looked at Morgan was clocking me from the from a side of it. That's exactly what he goes. So I walk over to Morgan. I go, will you say this line? It's kind of funny. I think we should shoot it.

And he goes, I'll say whatever you want to say. And so we get to that spartanil in the scripts that are shooting. And Alan skips it thinking the line's been cut. And Morgan, because he likes to tease people, goes, hold on, I got a new line. I got your line. And he said it, and it was hilarious. It was in the trailer. But Alan didn't appreciate that at all.

He didn't. No, he was upset with you. I think he was upset that I didn't just cut the line that I gave it to Morgan. Yeah. But I didn't understand why the line should be cut. I thought it was a good joke. Yeah. What's it like?

I mean, people ask you this all the time. but he's like everybody's hero. But Harrison Ford, it's like, it looks like your best friends when I see these interviews, when I see this thing. He just like, he's not like a kid.

He's like, he's like, he feels like he loves you. He does. He's great. You know, he's, he's built up my confidence a lot as a director. How?

He'll take me aside at the end of the week and be like, you're good. That was really good. And it's like, you know, we don't do a lot of small talk on the set. You know,

we tell stories and laugh like everybody on a set. But like, Like, you know, the show moves pretty quick. We shoot one in six and a half days. Yeah. He takes the time when you wrap him on the end of the episode. He knows I'm moving on. You know, I only do two a year usually.

And he'll say something that's like really heartfelt and kind and means so much to me coming from him. Oh, my God. He's a really, really nice man. And he is having the time of his life on drinking. He just loves it. He loves doing comedy. Obviously, he was funny in so many of his role. Bowles.

Oh, yeah. You know, he always had a funny, you know, Indian Han. Great delivery. Amazing. But now doing like emotional comedy, he like loves it. Does he ever improvise? So happy on set. Yeah.

Like what's one improv that you kept? I think it's episode three of this last season. Season three, episode three, I directed it. And he's trying to, he's not supposed to be doing therapy anymore. And, and the, and Sean, who's the big African-American veteran. that he's giving therapy to. He's trying to give him therapy. Because he's like, he's jonesing to like do his career, his passion.

And Sean's like, you're not supposed to be working, man. He's like, hold on. Let me just give you one tool. And Sean's like, no, not, man, you're not supposed to be working right now. He's like, just listen to me. And Sean's like, no, I don't. He goes, ah, fuck it. And he just improvved that.

And it was so fucking funny. And the crew broke up laughing. And like, I was like, I put it in my cut. I don't know if, you know, I do a cut. And then did they put it in? Yeah, Bill left it in. I always put stuff in my cut hoping Bill will choose it in his final cut and that he left in because it was hilarious.

Are you got you and Harrison like on a texting each other thing? No, not like that. I can text him, but I don't. I don't want to bother. He doesn't even. No, I have his text. I can text him. I just don't want to like, I don't want to step.

I don't want to fly too close to the side. And he's still your, yeah, picker. You know, I don't want to burn my wings. He's your hero. I love him. He's not fuck that up. I don't want to be like, annoy him. I don't want to, I don't want to step over the line. What's, what's next? I'm so happy

that he likes me. I don't want to fuck it up. That's how we are. I'm the same way. I just want so, I don't want them to like me. I want to know that I'm confident. I'm weird around celebrities. I know that's a funny thing I am too. Yeah. You are too. I get a little, I don't feel like I belong on this couch, but I, yeah, but I don't always feel like I don't belong in a lot of ways. I get very uncomfortable around people I really love. And I, and I, it's like, it's like a guy being nervous on a date. He's going to say something stupid. And so whenever I like make Harrison laugh or I make somebody I really admire like laugh or there's a great dismount, I like walk away. I'm so happy. That's all you need. Let it go. Walk away. I don't want to like stumble into some awkward.

You know, I'm so happy there's a clean dismount. What's next? I mean, you got Scrubs season two. You're about to go shoot. Do you have something after that lined up? I'm hoping the dates could work out so I could do one of the later roosters because they sort of overlap a little bit. I might be able to direct one of the last roosters. That's TBD. But I really love working with Corel on that show and in that whole cast is amazing. Correll's the sweetest, isn't he? Correll is the nicest guy. He's such a nice man. You know what's so great about Corell? He just hangs out on set. Like, Waller, he isn't like even go to his chair or a trailer or anything. He just kind of like just hangs with the crew. I mean, they lets him do their work, but he kind of works on his lines. But he's just like

such a cool, sweet man. He's really fun. What about your next movie that you write another movie and direct it? I would like to. I'm talking about maybe doing another studio movie. Yeah. Going in style is the only studio movie I ever made,

and it did really well. And so I'm talking to Warner Brothers about doing something else that I, that's a script I really like. But I don't know. I've got to see if Scrubs is a success again. I don't know how many years we're going to go with that.

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I'm looking at how you have yourself in two different sizes. But it's off the camera. This guy made those for me. This guy, Santi from Uruguay. They're amazing. Yeah, there's 3D. And he made me. Can you, can I commission? and me and Donald? 100%. Do you want those? Absolutely. I'll have a made for you. Give me the guy.

He's the best. It's the perfect Christmas gift. Santi, will you make Zach and Donald? Some of those 3D things for me. He'll be so pumped that we're talking about him. It's the perfect Christmas gift for Donald. Me and him is giant figurines. Well, wait a minute.

You're going to have to show your audience. You're going to have to show your audience a cutaway of this. Oh, they've seen it before because we do this other podcast called Talkville with me and Tom, a rewatch podcast. Oh. So they've seen them there before. All right, rapid fire. Okay.

Nico P. If you're in a high stress situation at work, is there anything you do to help ensure you stay level-headed in the moment? I talk myself down. I go for a walk. I go outside, get some air, try and breathe through it and talk myself down. Jeremy C., what has been the kindest or most thoughtful things someone has done for you this year? I think Bill Lawrence, who's my mentor and my partner in so many endeavors,

he, this is the first thing that comes to mind. He doesn't really give compliments a lot, and he's very stingy with them. But he wrote me a Christmas card that was so kind because we've been doing a lot of work together between Rooster and Shrinking and Lasso and Scrubs. And he wrote me such a kind Christmas note. You save it?

Of course. And then he wrote at the bottom, I hope this lasts the year. I hope this will last the year, meaning like this is your affirmation for the year right right but uh that's the first thing it came in my mind that's beautiful little lisa says what about yourself do you have trouble acknowledging i don't even know i'm very hard of myself i'm not i'm really i'm really hard of myself yeah i don't i don't give people like i don't pat myself on the back like what a guest was only like oh you know

talking about me today about like and i just was like okay i was like thank you so much i appreciate that but there's like that little kid in me that just doesn't believe it that i'm just like it's nice that you hear this say it's okay yeah it's okay i'm always uh looking for yeah msley ann if you could get rid of one thing in the world what would it be and why because we live in los angeles my brain to be honest first went to homelessness i course it is it is such a uh problem here and it's so tragic and uh i've been trying to we did a big garden state uh anniversary concert and we raised a lot of money for the midnight mission downtown yeah that's sort of been like the thing that i want to be proactive

with charity-wise because it's so upsetting. And L.A. is in such a quagmire about how to handle it. That's the very first thing that popped. You know, I'm part of this organization called Food on Foot with Bob Odenkirk. And it's wonderful.

What they do is you, they help you get an apartment and a job and all these things. But they make you do the work and show how, much you want it because most people don't want to be homeless and if you don't you want to way out they facilitate that that's great and it's not like uh government aid you know it's not like the government's not giving any money so it all comes from members and like i'm a 99 dollar club

member so i give 90 dollars a month and you show up for servings and things like that but i'm telling you i got to take you one day i would love you'll love it i'll take you i really wish a visionary would come along and and help. I know many other cities have this have this conundrum, but really helped tackle the problem in Los Angeles. No one has ever tackled it. Foodonfoot.org or midnight mission. Or the midnight mission.

Please don't. They're at least people that are helping and dedicated their lives to helping. Raj, tell me about a time you cut yourself while shaving. I have no idea where that came from. That's weird. I did fucking scratch the shit out of myself on my fancy. Jesus. I hope Rod, that'll do for.

Ross. Such a little puppy that passed? Yeah, I had this guy, Roska, for 17 years. I mean, it's such meaningful chapter of my life. He was there for everything. And then he passed. That honestly, almost brings like tears to my eyes. It does because I lost my dog. We're both big dog guys. Dude. It just, in like Blanche, I look at her every day. And I'm just like, I can't live without you. Oh, I just foster failed a year ago. I have this new, uh, big giant, um, Mastiff pity mix. And And she brings me more joy than anything. She's the best antidepressant there is. They released dopamine.

Yeah. And you touch and hug them. And last question, Taylor R, since you played a doctor for so many years, could you perform routine checkup on someone? Could you wing it? No. I don't think that there's anything that I could do useful for your checkup. Could you give CPR to someone if they needed it? Yes.

You could. Yes. Do you know, my friend? You want something interesting about CPR? Yeah. They don't do the breast. Do you know why? No.

Because so many people were reluctant to start doing CPR on someone that they were getting nothing. So they said, new protocol, forget the mouth part, just do, studying alive, staying alive. I don't know if that's the exact song. I think you do like 200 before you stop. But the point is, it wasn't, of course, that the mouth part of doing two breaths and then, and then chest compressions wasn't valuable. It's that the public was so reluctant to put their lips on a stranger's mouth that they were just abstaining.

So they changed the recommendation and just said, please, at least do chest compressions. So my buddy was in Vegas. And one of my closest ones I've known in 25 years. Well, my best friend was with him. and my other friend my other best friend Tommy so three best buddies they're at my friend Tommy's house and they're about to go to a fish concert they love fish and my buddy can he's just like if you go hi it was a fish concert he's the guy I'm so you could ask Ryan he goes oh oh yeah bro oh yeah dude that's he's just he's kind of a stoner but he's he's really smart he worked for

with Conan O'Brien for a while he was the the um what he the cue car guy and he's in the backyard and he just goes making these weird noises and then he just was out and tom and tom he grabbed him on the floor and you know they called 911 and they're like chest compressions and go with me one 1 1,000 2 1,000 3 1,000 and tom just kept doing this while they're waiting for 911 finally they get there and they jump him three times And on the third time, he goes, what happened? What's going on? And the guy goes, in 25 years, I've never seen anyone talk after we jumped them back to life.

Wow. And he had cardiac arrest and was gone for like 12 minutes. Yeah, you're dead. A lot of people don't understand that. If you're doing CPR and you're dead. You're dead. Cardiac arrest. If he was alone, if he went to the bathroom or if he was in bed, anywhere else but with these guys.

That's very rare, right? Dead. And TV, it seems like people come back a lot more often than they do. They do. Watch people do CPR on TV. It's really horribly done because if you can't do actual CPR on someone, you can fucking break the rib, the rib cage and maybe kill me. What we've done more now on Scrubs and what some shows are doing is you doing it on a dummy

because then you can actually do compressions. But your audience watching and listening to this will now see on so many shows people, Well, they do this. They bend their arms. Right. So you're not putting any pressure. Yeah. You have to break a rib to do it right.

If you haven't broken a rib, you're not doing it right, supposedly. Yes. Don't try to break the rib, but it should happen. If you're doing CPR correctly on a person, they say your odds are you going to break a rib. Have you ever had a broken rib? No. Have you ever had a broken nose? Just shingles on my taint.

Just shingles. I think that's how we should end this podcast. This is an absolute joy having you here. If you haven't seen it, watch Scrubs, the Revival. Season two is going to come at you probably next year or sometime. Season two will be coming at you this fall. What? Yes, we got picked up for the fall.

So we will be shooting them and they will start airing while we're still shooting. That's the old broadcast way. Dude, that is the old school way. Now it's like, we'll see you in two years. I know. That's what's so cool. Scrubs fans may not realize this, but they're actually getting two seasons in, in 2026. Blessed.

You're blessed. Zach, this is awesome. I want to take you up on coming to your house. Yeah, let me give you a good tour. And we'll do a sonic cold plunge. I love that. This was a joy. Thanks for having me.

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