Insight with Chris Van Vliet - AskCVV #81 - What Is Travis Scott Doing?, Green Shirt Guy, John Cena's Next Feud, TLC On SmackDown

Episode Date: May 2, 2025

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Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Van Fleet. Happy Friday and welcome back to another one here on Inside. I'm CBV. Chris Van Fleet, hope it's been a great week for you. Thank you for being tuned in on this episode. And thank you for making Insight the number one wrestling podcast on the planet. I say that every episode, but it still sounds so crazy to me. like truly thank you for making this the number one wrestling podcast on the planet and also like a top five sports podcast of all sports.

Thank you for helping us to climb the charts and you know that we're not slowing down. So I appreciate you for being on this ride with me. Hit that follow button with an FU, not an attitude adjustment. No, hit it with an FU and slap an STFU on that rating on Spotify. I looked at the analytics. and it's amazing how many people just listen to the show. How many jabronies just listen to the show and don't follow the show? I don't fault you, though.

I know there's a lot of people who either think they're following the show and just, oh my gosh, I didn't realize they never clicked that follow button. Or you just didn't realize that was a thing or you didn't realize how helpful that is to creators. So if you have a free second today, and I'm assuming you have a few free seconds today, could you just hit follow wherever you're listening, Spotify, Apple, wherever it is. It seriously helps the show so much. And yes, if you have an extra few seconds, rating the show on Spotify or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts is like mega helpful.

So thank you in advance for that. You've seen the guests that we've had over the last, call it six-ish months, maybe even a little bit longer, like the last six to nine. nine months. I can't wait for you to see who we have coming up. I already booked one very big one in the summer that I can't wait for that one to happen. And just as the show keeps getting bigger, the guests can also keep getting bigger. And I don't want to give too much away here. I think there's been some times where I've been burned in the past by telling you that an interview is happening and then flights get canceled, plans change, whatever. And it doesn't happen. And I think I've learned

my lesson that until we have hit stop on the recording, until we have the files in our hand, that we shouldn't say anything about these interviews happening. So I think I'll just keep saying, you know, we've got a big one on the way, or we've got a Hall of Famer on the way or a future Hall of Fameer on the way. I think that's what we'll do so that we don't burn ourselves again. Squared Circle Expo in Indianapolis last weekend was amazing. I read off the list of names. on last week's Ask CVV number 80. But it was crazy seeing all of those huge names, all of those legends all in one room.

And it was great meeting so many of you. And also so cool when people say how much you like the Ask CVV episodes. So I appreciate you for being a real one. If you're hearing this right now, you're a real one because you're hearing an Ask CVV episode. And I will see all the real, real ones at the end of this episode in about an hour.

or so. Also, had a blast at TNA last night in Irvine, California. That was RVV, Rachel Van Vleet's first ever TNA show. So I've introduced her recently to all of this. We started, actually, our first show was AEW, then a few WWE shows now. She's been to a TNA show. She's also been to a few indie shows as well. Man, do not sleep on TNA. Like, I get that there's a lot of people who are when AJ Stiles and Samoa Joe and Christopher Daniels and all those people were there like late 2000s. And I understand why you might have fallen off during the Hogan and Bischoff silliness that happened in the early 2010s. But do not sleep on TNA. The in-ring product is head to head with anything right now.

Maybe even, it might even be the best in-ring wrestling in the world right now. I think there's so many people who just fell off at that point in time and then never came back. Come back. If you love pro wrestling, come back. You will not be disappointed, but it was so cool being there with so many of you guys watching a little live wrestling and being able to chat and give some high fives. And it was awesome. And I look forward to my next live show, which is next weekend. going to be in St. Louis for backlash.

So if you're going to be in St. Louis for backlash, I will see you there. I haven't gotten 100% confirmation on any interviews there yet. But we're working on some big ones. That's all I'll say. We're working on some big interviews there. So, yeah, we'll see. And I can't believe it's already May. It's, yeah, today, actually.

it is Friday, May 2nd, 2025. Happy birthday to my dad, DVV, Dad Van Vleet, Dirk Van Vleet. He shares a birthday with the Rock. And then my birthday's in two and a half weeks, May 19th, don't say that date to Cain. Who knows what will happen then? I share a birthday with Maxine Dupree,

Andre the Giant, and also George St. Pierre. So my birthday's in a few weeks. than my daughter Logan's birthday is at the end of the month. Big, big month, big month of birthdays here. But it is Friday, May 2nd, 2025. Welcome, my friends, to Ask CVV number 81, the Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, and Art Monk edition. If you've got a question for next week,

Ask CVV number 82, if you have some ideas for what addition it should be. Who famously wore jersey number 82 in whatever sport it is? Send it in on social media using the hashtag Ask CVV. If you're listening on Spotify, we love plucking comments from Spotify and questions from Spotify. Leave it on Spotify or shoot me an email CVV at chris fanfleet.com. And we will kick it off with an email from Michael Concierge who says, Hey, CVV, do you think that Sina will retire with the title? lose it along the way or lose it on the very last appearance, maybe from the Money in the Bank

winner, cashing in. Kind regards, Michael. I've been saying this all along that I don't think this is a long title reign. I think this is a title reign that lasts a handful of months. I don't, I don't know who he loses it to because we're going into backlash next weekend with Randy Orton. I think it's going to be a great match. I think it's going to be filled with nostalgia, these are this in my opinion is john sina's biggest rival it's his best feud which is why i've been saying all along i think that randy orton's going to be his last opponent although that doesn't feel like the case anymore aren't they saying like one last time which throws my whole theory out the window of randy orton being his last opponent and i've heard people say well why is it happening now

like WrestleMania was just two weeks ago. Why are we getting Randy Orton and John Cena already? Like it's too quick. There's no build up to this. First of all, number one, you don't need a big buildup to this when you've got these two guys who have so much history together. But like I mentioned last week, it just makes so much sense. It's Randy Orton.

He's from St. Louis. It's the hometown guy for doing this backlash in St. Louis. that one just makes perfect sense for Randy Orton to be in the main event. I don't think Randy Orton wins there. So then we've got John Cena holding on to it for at least another month. I think John Cena holds it until at the very least SummerSlam. But we've got a lot of things to figure out between now and the end of the year with John Sina.

I think it's great how he's counting down the dates of, how many appearances he has, not matches, just appearances. I think it's a beautiful heel move. You know, kind of like, yep, it's almost like the, I'm only here so I don't get fined. Remember that, Richard, remember that? Marshaun Lynch and the Super Bowl press conference. It just kind of feels like that. Yep, 27, 26, 25, all the way down. Like I said last week, if you missed it, kind of feels like the person who's already put their two weeks noticing. and now they're barely putting any effort in. Yep, 12 days to go. 13 days ago.

My last day is Friday. That's what it feels like. We've got a lot of things to figure out. In my opinion, we've got to figure out how a face turn happens at some point in time. We've got to figure out how the title gets dropped. So I think he loses it. Maybe it's SummerSlam or maybe it's like right after SummerSlam. That's how it feels.

to me, and then you give John Sina some time to tell whatever the other stories are. But then that opens up a whole other can of worms, because if John Sina loses the title, is he going to be in contention for the title? Are all of the remaining matches that he has this year? Are they going to be title matches? Is it going to be number one contender matches? Because if it's just John Sina wrestling for the sake of John Sina wrestling, I don't know if we're going to be that interested in it.

if it's John Sina the champion figuring out a way to hold on to that title, I mean, that's interesting. But this whole John Sina retirement tour with the heel turn thrown in has thrown me for a loop. And I'm along for this ride trying to figure out where this thing is headed. But my best guesses are just that. They're just guesses. But I think there's a lot of different things to figure out between now and the end of the year. 27 more dates sounds like to me six to eight-ish matches. Is that six-to-eight-ish feuds? I don't know. Like, does Cody Rhodes get another match with John Cena? That feels like something that would happen. Like, if you really think about this, Cody Rhodes could find himself in a position where he gets his comeuppance against John

Sina. He figures out a way to win one over on John Sina. That could, as we stand right now, in May of 2025, that could be a contender for John Sina's last match, a passing of the torch moment. But to answer your question, Michael, I think that he loses the title at some point in the next few months. It's not a long title reign for John Sine. That's what I think, at least. Jonathan Reveal on Spotify says, I strongly disagree with you and the Rock take. The Rock had to be there at WrestleMania. Stop sugarcoating this because y'all friends. Well, this is the best. This is the best comment. I love that you think I'm friends with the Rock, despite the fact that I haven't talked to him since a four-minute interview that we did

for the movie Black Adam in October of 2022. But if the perception is that I'm friends with the Rock, kind of love that. I've done 10 interviews with the Rock. I think the shortest was like a minute. The longest was like seven minutes. And actually, ironically, that was my first interview with the Rock. So in total, I've talked to the Rock for over the course of all of those interviews, maybe 45 minutes, maybe 47 minutes.

So I've talked to the Rock like 47 minutes over the course of 13 years. I guess I should include the fact that he did say, hey, Chris, what's up after the Elimination Chamber Press Conference? So maybe we count an extra four seconds into this. But here's my whole issue with The Rock and not showing up a WrestleMania. I've been saying for months that we still have not got an explanation as to why John Cena sided with the Rock at Elimination Chamber in Toronto. We're still waiting on that explanation.

And it seems to me that when you break it down, the explanation is simply this. And I hate it. It's simply this. It was the easy way out. Cody's the biggest baby face. The rock is a mega bad guy. While you kick Cody in the balls, you pose with the rock, boom, just like that, you're a heel. And I think that that is the only explanation here.

Because we have been waiting every John Cena promo between Elimination Chamber and WrestleMania 41, we've been waiting for like, well, I sided with the rock because of, like, the other question I have here that I don't think is ever going to get answered is if the rock was trying to get Cody Rhodes to sell his soul, do we assume that that moment at Elimination Chamber is John Sina selling his soul to the rock? I think we all kind of assume that. It was like the was the sell your soul segment. So when John Sina kicks Cody Rhodes and the balls, well, that sure seemed to me like he was selling his soul to the rock.

Well, then the rock hasn't appeared since Elimination Chamber. And I purposely think the rock was left out of the build because we just knew the rock wasn't going to be there. So like all the time between the raw after elimination chamber all the way up to WrestleMania night two, I just found it so strange that the rock was. never mentioned in any of the promos, never talked about in the build. Like Cody could have easily taken shots at John Sina and said something along the lines of like, oh, you're no better than him.

You know, that's why you guys are teamed up together. But that wasn't ever explained. It wasn't even hinted at. But yet, even though there was no talk of the rock, no mention of the rock, other than showing the highlights of the slitting of the throat. all that, the expectation was still there for him to show up on night two. And I don't know, maybe we shouldn't have had our hopes so high, I guess. But like, in hindsight, the writing was on the wall, like he wasn't mentioned at all. Rock hadn't been seen since elimination chambers. So

why, using wrestling logic, why would he be there? Well, why would he be there? Because that moment would have saved the match. In fact, when Travis Scott's music hit, I turned to my friend Jamil, who I was sitting next to you, and I said, oh, this is going to turn into the rock's music, just like it did an elimination chamber. You know, it starts with Travis Scott. And then it turns into, dun, dun, then turns into the rock's music. Well, here's the thing that didn't happen. We just had a very long, very slow entrance by Travis Scott. And there's still zero explanation as to what Travis.

Scott is doing there and why he plays any role at all in this whole thing. That's the thing I'm most annoyed by. Like, stop insulting our intelligence. Not everyone knows who Travis Scott is, yet he's inserted into this main event storyline, then into the actual main event, like we should know why he's there. I'm sorry. We don't know why he's there because he hasn't said a single word on W. WWE TV.

And no one is explaining why he's there. And here's the other thing that I don't get. If he has the hardcore title, shouldn't he have to defend it? Like, we all know the rules of the hardcore title, right? If he's going to walk around that hardcore title, like it feels like it should be on the line 24-7. And look, that match,

WrestleMania Night 2 was what it was. It seems glaringly obvious that Sina wrestling as a heel isn't nearly as energy. as when Sina does his five moves of doom as a baby face. And it really showed during that match. And maybe, maybe this is his way of ruining wrestling. And that's such an interesting phrase because ruining wrestling can mean something different to so many different people.

Like you are listening to this right now and you're thinking in your mind, while ruining wrestling is just like doing like healish things. Sure. That could be it. ruining wrestling could be having boring matches. Yeah, that would ruin wrestling. You know what else would ruin wrestling? And I assume this is not intentional,

but what really would ruin wrestling is not explaining why characters are there. Not explaining why this world famous rapper is somehow a heel and somehow in the main event picture. That's it. Like, I feel like the main disappointment stems from the fact that there was a surprise in that match and it wasn't the Rock. Like if Sina had done all of the same things that he did in that match, the low blow,

the eye poke, hitting Cody with the title when the ref was down, like all of those things, but Travis Scott hadn't showed up and no one had showed up and no one had interfered. Maybe you wouldn't have loved the match, but I'm willing to bet you would have liked it a lot more. I listened to The Rock's interview on Pat McAfee, and he was saying like, yeah, I probably would have changed some things with the buildup to that match. All we needed was an explanation. Like, that's the thing I've been looking for. We need an explanation because that's the surprise of Travis Scott showing up does nothing for the fans. And it does nothing for the story.

Last year, WrestleMania 40, there were a lot of expectations that Stone Cold would show up. And he didn't. But instead of being upset about it, we went, well, who would have thought we would get the Rock and John Cena and The Undertaker? So it's like, all right, so we were really hoping for the glass to shatter and Stone Cold to be there. But my goodness, if the consolation prize is going to be John Cena and the Rock and the undertaker, that's pretty good. Here, we're like, well, the expectation is the rock is going to come out because, you know, the rock's the whole reason that John Cena turned heel at elimination chamber. And then Travis Scott comes out. And that's it. You're like, well, that's the consolation prize. Like this person who has been just thrown into the storyline with no explanation is now just part of this and we're supposed to care. That is my issue. That's my issue. That's my issue. And maybe all of us collectively, of course, myself included, maybe our expectations were too high because it sure seems like in hindsight, and I get that hindsight is 2020, it sure seems like they

knew all along that the rock wasn't going to be there at WrestleMania. And I read this all the way up to it as like, ooh, this is going to be a really nice surprise. We haven't seen the rock since the elimination chamber. So when his music hits, Night 2 of WrestleMania, it's going to be a massive surprise. because, you know, we haven't seen him in so long. Nope. Nope. Not there.

And it kind of also feels like with everything the Rock's been saying recently, we won't be seeing the final boss for a while. So this whole thing of John Cena siding with the Rock, we'll never get an explanation for it. kind of falls into the same category of like the gift that the rock gave to Cody. What? Like, that was almost a year ago. Doesn't even been a reference to it since. And I just, I would think that in this day and age of WWE and the fans being as tuned in as

they are, you wouldn't allow things like that to happen and not have some sort of follow up some sort of explanation just something to just tie it up and go yep this is why we did that what's the gift what's the gift the rock gave to cody roads we'll never know sure seems like it why did john sina side with the rock at elimination chamber i i don't think it will ever be explained. I'm hopeful. I imagine the Rock will have at least one or two more matches in his wrestling career. So I'm hopeful that we get some answers to some of this, because I think when you look at it, there seems to me like three, three kind of obvious opponents for the Rock. If he does have one or two more matches, Roman Raines feels like an obvious one, especially with

Roman Raines essentially being a baby face now. I know he hasn't like officially done it, but he's as good as a baby face. If he's a baby face and Rock's a heel, that one feels obvious. There's obviously something there with Cody and the Rock. Cody even called out the Rock in at Elimination Chamber Perth last year. He said, Rock, I want to have a one-on-one match with you. And then there's so much history there with Rock and John Cena. That feels like another one that should be revisited. But I'm not sugar-coating anything here, Jonathan. I still enjoyed WrestleMania 41. I'm not going to let one disappointing match and certainly a disappointing surprise in that match ruined the other 13 matches that all just came together for what was WrestleMania 41.

The bar was set so high from WrestleMania 40. I think we all finished wrestling. WrestleMania 40, whether you were there in person or you were watching it at home and you went, man, amazing. Like, that was so, so good. And I think that we all kind of went, that's going to be an all-timer. That's going to be one we're talking about in 10 and 20 years as one of the greatest wrestlingas of all time. It's hard to follow that up. And they certainly did not follow that up with WrestleMania 41.

But I don't think it was like the worst WrestleMania of all time. Like a lot of people are saying, there's a lot more. there were some great matches. We went through them last week and you can go listen to them. And there were some not so great matches. But I think that the biggest thing missing here is what tied it all together. Like there's just some things from Russellmania 4-1 that still haven't been explained and I don't think they ever will. Peyton Dominique emailed this one and said, hey, Chris, hope all is well.

I'm a new listener and really enjoying the show. Great work. My question for you is, what do you think is next? for Cody Rhodes. Also, do you think there's a chance that we could see a Cody versus Sina rematch or even Cody versus the Rock rematch down the line? Thanks and keep up the awesome work, Peyton. Well, I hope that right now what we're getting for Cody, what's next for Cody, is some well-deserved time off. Like, if anybody deserves it, if there's anybody who should have some time off, it's Cody Rhodes. He has been just an absolute workhorse since coming back at WrestleMania 38, but I mean,

he was off for the torn peck, really since coming back after the torn peck. So like really since coming back after that injury, he's just been a workhorse in the ring, outside of the ring, appearances, interviews, make a wish, autographs, all of it. He's been doing so, so much, like truly. taking that place that John Sina had for so many years. So I think that Cody deserves, even if it's just a few months, give him some time off. And like I mentioned, I think that there's a real build that makes a lot of sense for Cody versus Sina and Cody versus the Rock. If we're not getting Randy Orton in the retirement match, and if that's, I get it, if that's not the case, I understand. Is this it?

Is this the last match we're going to get? Like, we're going to get Sina versus Randy? Like one last time here, that's it? Backlash, all right. Okay. So if that's not it, we move on, move on to something else. And everyone keeps saying, like, when was the last time we had a true white meat baby face? Well, it was John Sina.

And with John Sina moving on, John Sina retiring from in-ring action, Who's that person to take that spot? It's Cody Rhodes. So if we're all saying that, then maybe we have that like official passing of the torch moment. We get the big buildup. Cody versus John Cena rematch. I assume that both of those guys are aware of the discourse online.

How many people thought that at best that main event match on night two was mediocre. And at worst, it was not good. And I'm sure that they're well aware of that. And I would imagine they'd want to run that back for just the idea of like, all right, maybe you guys weren't so happy with the way that that one went down. We can do better. We can turn this around and leave a better taste in your mouth. I think going back to WrestleMania 41 for a second, I think one of the things that it really reminds me of is the whole mantra in WWE, especially at live shows, like if you go to a live event, a house show, it's always sending them home happy. And I think that there's the idea here of like a lot of people went into that match,

assuming that John Cena would win number 17. But it's the way that it happened. Like I assumed it was going to be done. in a healish fashion, and it was. But the Travis Scott thing, man, just a bad taste in my mouth the way that went down. But I think it's the idea of like,

you didn't send him home happy. And I think that we did get that at WrestleMania 40. Like, it's going to be hard to have a feel good moment like that one again. So I just think that Cody Rhodes and John Cena have to be aware of what people are saying

about their match. I could definitely see a scenario where they have another one here. I put a poll out on my broadcast channel on Instagram. And if you haven't joined my broadcast channel, it's fun. I post a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff. I let you guys know who the guests are well before anywhere else. And I posted a poll on there. By the way, you can go to my, just go to my profile on Instagram and then you'll see it's called the CVV feed and just click join. And you can join in there. I put a poll in there. And I said, how many world championships do you think Cody Rhodes will win in total in his career?

So I've won, two, three, four, five all the way up to ten or more. So he has one right now because we're, we're not talking about the NWA championship. I'm just talking about WWE world championships. He has one. And the number one answer is three. Then the number four answer, number two answer is four. And then number five. And I tend to agree with that.

Like with Cody Rhodes and where he's at in his career right now, I feel like, yeah, of course he has some more title reins in him. But he's 39 right now. He turns 40 next month. Isn't that crazy to think that? His birthday is June 30th, June 30th, 1985.

So he turns 40 next month. So maybe he's got five years left. Like I know that he said years ago, he only wanted to wrestle until he was 40 and he changed that up recently. He knows that he has a lot more to give to the industry. So maybe he has five years left, seven years left, maybe. I don't know, maybe it's a few more title reigns, but I think that that's also something that's next for him.

But I guess the biggest thing to think about here is we haven't heard from Cody. Cody hasn't said anything since losing the championship at WrestleMania. It's like, does a new story begin now? Well, yeah, it does. What does that story look like? So I'm interested to see how much time Cody the individual gets to spend with his family, recharge the batteries, just not be on the road so much. And then I'm interested to see Cody Rhodes, the character, where does that get inserted back into this? Because after backlash next weekend, I think it's the Randy Sina thing has done at least for now. It's what I would think.

Is it Cody Sina already? I don't think so. But where does it go from here? And that's the thing I'm most interested in. Cody Rock, like I said, that still feels like something. At some point in time, Michael Swanson on Facebook says, Hey, CVV, what did you think of the trailer for The Smashing Machine? Have you guys seen this?

Trailer for the Rock's new movie, The Smashing Machine? This is from Benny Safdi, who is just an incredible director. The Safty brothers have done some amazing movies. They brought such a great performance out of Robert Pattinson in Good Time. The dark and gritty performance they got out of Adam Sandler in Uncut Gems. I loved that movie so much. And it was interesting hearing Rock talk about this on Pat McAfee. He was saying that he really wanted to chase the chants.

challenge. And he also wanted to disappear into a role. And when you watch that trailer, like, The Rock is acting here. And a lot of people have been very critical of The Rock playing the same character in so many of his films. I'm sure you've seen the meme where he's wearing a khaki colored shirt standing in a jungle. And there's four photos. And the caption is like, these are four different films. I get it. And I'm sure The Rock is, is very aware of this idea that is around him, this stereotype that is around him of just, well,

the rock plays himself in every movie. He's clearly turning a new page on his career. And it feels like between this movie and then the Martin Scorsese film where it's like a Hawaiian godfather type of thing, when that one comes out, oh my goodness. Just feels like the rock is like, trying to showcase what he's capable of.

And I can't wait to see this thing. The movie's based on the true story of Mark Kerr, who is a UFC pioneer, former UFC champion, and just his life story. And it's, I think that the rock has, is realizing the gravity of this role

and the gravity of playing a human, like someone who's actually lived. But not just that. I think this is the interesting thing. about biopics is when you're playing someone, you're always going to be compared to like, oh, he didn't really sound like that person. He didn't really look like that person. But then when the person's still alive, like Mark Kerr is still very much alive and well, now you've got the actual person who you're playing judging your performance. And I think there's pros and cons to that, right? Because

you can pros and cons of that person being alive, because you can pick their brain and go, well, how would you, how would you react to this? How would you in real life? say this, play this, whatever. But then you've also got the, you know, when you're doing an impression of someone in front of them or you're acting like someone in front of them, well, the pressure's on now because you absolutely have to nail it

because you're probably going, I don't sound like that. You think that sounds like me? You think that kind of looks like me? I don't know. So there's a lot of, like, there's real pressure. I think when that's the case, when you're playing someone who's still,

with us, but I can't wait for this. But we have to wait. We have to wait till October 3rd. So like exactly five months from now, I kind of wish that these movie trailers came out like closer to the date of the movie. I feel the same way about the latest Mission Impossible movie. I've been talking about this one for like, well, I've been talking about this one since the last Mission Impossible movie came out, but I've been super excited about it since the first trailer came out. that's probably my most anticipated movie of the summer. And then when we look at the fall and award season, smashing machine is number one on my list.

So I can't wait to see this. And I just, I'm excited to see this new version of the Rock. And I think that there's real potential here for this to not only be the Rock's best performance. But if all of the rumors and buzz is true, and there are some people who have seen some brief scenes from this movie, if all of that buzz is true, rock could seriously be in the conversation for an Oscar or a Golden Globe. And I'm excited to see that version of the rock.

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who will determine if a prescription is appropriate. Restrictions apply. See website for full details and important safety information. Ben Gandhi emailed this one in. Hey, CVV, I love all of your content. So I've gone back and listened to some episodes from the last. 12 months. Man, thank you, Ben. I re-listened to your most recent episode with Batista. I absolutely loved it, but I noticed something in the intro. You alluded to an upcoming episode with a guest who is,

and I quote, really hope you read that in the Michael Cole anonymous RGM voice. And I quote, The guest is not your boy toy. We are still yet to see a new episode with the one and only Sean Michaels. To quote the hurricane, what's up with that? Keep up the good work, Ben. This is an example of one of those scenarios where I spoke too soon. And that was what a, what an adventure that was. So my dad and I go to a different baseball stadium every year. We've been a 25 major league baseball stadium. So we only have five left. We're going to cross off another one this year. I believe Texas Rangers are the stadium we are going to cross off this year. And then for those of you asking, then the only four remaining will be St. Louis, Kansas City,

New York Mets, and Oakland and I don't, do we go this year? Do we wait until they go to Las Vegas? I don't know. But we went to Seattle for we had this. We had tickets bought. We had the whole trip planned out. And then WWE said, hey, if you'd be willing to fly to the performance center, we could set up an interview with Sean Michaels. So done. Absolutely. The thing is, it was the day after the game. So the game was that night.

And then the interviews would be the next morning in Orlando at like 10 a.m. So, you know, I'm on Seattle. I'm in Seattle for that, like, I had a few days to figure this out. But we would be in Seattle for that game. That game would end at whatever, seven, eight o'clock. I'd have to figure out a red eye that. would get me all the way across the country, touching down in Orlando with enough time to then get to the PC and then set up and ready to go for the interviews. So like three days before,

booked the flight, set everything up, got it all ready to go. And then the day before they were like, I'm so sorry, Sean Michael's schedule has changed, but we can definitely set up some other interviews. Great. So I ended up doing three interviews there. I'm sure you saw them, Ethan Page, Trick Williams and Sean Spears. Loved those conversations. And they were like, look, we'll get Sean Michaels at another time. I just spoke too soon. I got too excited.

I assumed that because it had been confirmed by WWE that it was happening. And again, schedules change, flights get canceled, weather, all of these things factor into it. So I have learned the lesson that unless it is recorded, and ready to go, I will not be mentioning names or giving hints for interviews where we have not recorded them yet. That's it. So I've been told that this one will be rescheduled at some point.

I don't know when. And I won't tell you when because I don't want to run into this scenario again. This has happened a few times. It's happened a few times. And thank you for picking up on it. It's happened a few times where, yeah, yeah, we're going to talk to so-and-so.

And then you never see that interview. That's what happened here. That's the whole story. And I'm excited for when that does happen. I don't think an hour is going to be enough. So I'll try to squeeze out as much time out of that as I can. Stephen Fatt on Facebook says, hey, CVV, to the best of your knowledge, what's the deal with green shirt guy? With the rising cost of tickets, there's no way someone is that lucky and gets the same seat every single show on ticket master without some insider.

help or comp ticket from the company. This is so funny because I have been asked about green shirt guy, maybe more than anybody else. It's been one of the most requested interviews. And I've met him before. His name is Simon. He's very nice. I've said to him, you're one of the most requested the guests that I've ever had. He goes, yeah, I'll do an interview with you, you know, when I'm ready.

We've chatted briefly. He goes by Superfan Smiles on social media. I don't know the story. I've heard all of the rumors. You can Google it. You can look up some of the rumors too. They're funny. And I don't know the truth behind him when he eventually comes on the show.

We'll get down to it and we'll figure out the whole story. I've heard the rumors of like, first, I'll start with the most ridiculous rumor. And I just know this to be true because I have eyeballs. I've heard the rumor that he was the fan. that CM Punk elbowed in the crowd all those years ago. Well, yeah, they look similar-ish. If you're like this, they have the same color hair. They don't look similar at all other than that.

So that is not true. I don't even need to ask green shirt guy about that one. I can see with my eyeballs that they're not the same person. So that is nothing more than a terrible rumor. So that one's not true. The rumor there was he got elbowed by CM Punk and then W. felt bad and as a settlement, they just gave him front row tickets to every show. That one, I just know is not true.

They're not the same person. The other things I've heard is like, he works for the company. He has a friend that works for WWE. He's independently wealthy and just buys all these tickets. I don't know. And I think that that's what's so interesting about green shirt guy, the mystery that surrounds him. And I am not exaggerating at all when I tell you that I get three to five messages or emails or tweets or Spotify comments about green shirt guy every single day. Like he is at this point

a more requested guest than like Randy Orton or Stone Cold or Paul Heyman or Triple H. like you guys really want to figure out who green shirt guy is. And I'm also really curious to find out as well. So eventually, I'm sure we will get an answer to this, but he told me he's not ready yet to do an interview. So we'll see. We'll see when this happens. Joe Farrell on Spotify says,

Hey, Chris, at the time of sending this, we don't know who is in Evolution 2.0. Who do you think will be the last member? Becky feels obvious, but I would love it to be Roxanne Perez. I think she would be awesome and could still be the prodigy, but with the backing of a faction. I love the show listening from Manchester, UK. Have a great day. I love the theories around this, but no one has said that there's going to be more members to this. Like, if this faction is simply just Paul Heyman managing Seth Rollins and Bronbaker at the same time.

Like, I think that we're in for something really special with that. This is one of the really fun things, though, about this era that we live in with pro wrestling is like, we're allowed to, like, speculate wildly about all this stuff. I don't personally think that they're building a four-man group here. And there has been no one talking about that, like, within WWB storylines. I see the comparisons, though. I get it. I understand where this is coming from.

Paul Heyman, he's in that Rick Flair spot. He's the grizzled veteran with experience who can talk. You've got Seth Rollins in the Triple H spot, the guy who's been world champ many times in the prime of their career. Bronbreaker in that Batista's spot as the powerhouse. And then the Randy Orton spot would be like the prodigy, like the up-and-comer, the person who you just see a super bright future in, and they can learn from these other of three guys in the group.

If we are going with this theory, if we are going to speculate wildly that this is the new version of evolution, I would love to see Austin theory in there. Like he would fit the exact same type of mold as that Randy Orton character. Like a young, up-and-comer, a prodigy, the guy who's just like, you look at him and you go,

yep, he has it all. He looks the part. He acts the part. He has it all. I would love to see what Austin Theory can do under the tutelage of someone like Paul Heyman. So that would be my pick for that spot. But I also love your ideas here. Becky and Roxanne Perez.

But I think that if we're breaking this down in the evolution format, I don't think Becky fits in there as well. Like Becky actually would be in the Seth Rawlins spot if you really think about it. So I don't think it's going to be Becky. Again, I don't think there's going to be another. person added to this just because we haven't that's not been something they've talked about in the same way that like who's the third man with the rock and john sina who's the third man here he held up three fingers who said anything about the third man then like as we as it stands right now there's

nothing to that storyline with the rock and john sina and if you can't tell from everything we talked about earlier on in this episode i'm a little upset about it because it makes no sense. But with this, I really just think this is going to be Paul Heyman managing two people. And I think that they're going to be helping each other out a lot. Like Seth Rollins going to be getting some dirty wins from the enforcer, Braun Breaker, coming in, you know, beating people up on his behalf. And I think that Bronner might get some dirty wins from Seth Rollins just like being very like cerebral in the way that he approaches things.

like having that veteran experience and being able to like impart that wisdom on brawn breaker that's how I see this going. But I would love to see how this plays out. And night one of WrestleMania was a beautiful thing. The double turn. I love it. Juan sent this one in on, I think it's Facebook. Oh, no, this is Spotify.

Juan sent this one on Facebook. It says, Ask CV number 81, the Green Packer Rookie. Matthew Golden edition. What a banger of a ladder match for the WWE Tag Team Championship. I truly believe this deserved to be a WrestleMania match over the New Day and War Raiders.

I would love to know your opinion on this. Thanks for these episodes. They truly help me get through the long overnight shift at work. Keep them coming. And shout out to you and all the other overnight workers. Thank you for what you do.

And I appreciate you for being some of the first people to listen to these episodes when they drop at midnight Pacific time. 3 a.m. East Coast time. That TLC match was nuts. Like nuts. Motor City machine guns versus DIY versus the street profits. And those were six guys in that match who just gave it their all. And I feel like that was their way of saying to everybody behind the scenes, like you messed up. Like this should have been on WrestleMania. We're going to show you why this should have been on

WrestleMania because it was so good. And I am. Not afraid to admit that I was wrong. I thought for sure that the reason we got War Raiders versus New Day at WrestleMania with very little buildup, I thought that match was going to be because Biggie was going to play a role in it. Maybe Biggie had gotten cleared to wrestle again and he was going to insert himself into this match and do something, setting up a feud with Biggie and either both of the members of the New Day or one on the members of the new day. That's why I thought we were getting that match.

Why else was that at WrestleMania other than to see a title change, which was cool. And I'm happy for the new day, even though we're not supposed to like the new day. I'm not actually happy for the new day. Yeah. But otherwise, if we're just thinking about like just zoom out just a tiny little bit, SmackDown has a much stronger tag team division as a whole. They very clearly proved that with his TLC match. I love both of the guys in War Raiders.

The interview that I did with Eric yesterday, it was phenomenal. What a great conversation with him. And if you haven't listened to it yet, go check it out after this episode. It will be so hard for you to not love and respect both Eric and Ivar after listening to it. And it's so hard to not root for the War Raiders when you hear their full story. And I also love the story of the new day. and everything they've done over the last 10 years and thinking, man, they could never turn a heel. Now look what they're doing as heels.

And I love that individually. But as a story, there wasn't a lot there. And I will say that because of that TLC match, we had arguably, if you really think about it, arguably one of, if not the best Smackdowns After Mania ever with just. Smackdown top to bottom and that match being like right at the very top of like the list of like the best things on that Smackdown card. Also, you could make an argument that a lot of what happened in the Roth to WrestleMania was stronger than what we saw at mania. But I'm with you. That TLC match was something that for sure, for sure should have been at mania. Shopping for a car should be exciting, not exhausting, but between misleading prices.

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for being one of the many people who sold that show out in Vegas. And appreciate you for being a VIP and coming early to the Ask CVV that we did just for the VIPs and then staying afterwards for the meet and greet. We've got the next one happening Friday, August 1st, New York City, baby, start spreading the news. Tickets are on sale at CBVTicks.com. And we're still waiting on confirmation here. And I don't want this to turn into another Sean Michael situation where I speak too soon.

But we are looking at doing a live episode of Insight right around Money in the Bank in L.A. I've already said too much. Well, I guess I got to keep going since I've opened my mouth. just keep that Friday free. The Friday before Money in the Bank, that would be Friday, June 6th. So if you live in and around L.A., if you're going to Money in the Bank, just keep that date free. I hope to see you there when we can announce that. And again, Morgan, thank you and your mom for coming out to the live show.

There's so much fun. I wish we had started doing these earlier. I wish we had done them last year the year before, but I'm a big believer that everything happens for a reason. So the fact that it's all coming together now, it's like the best timing for all of this. Bryce Armstrong on Spotify, Hey, CVV, have you heard the WrestleMania NFL playoff theory? Well, this is a good one. Have you heard this? Since 2021, wherever WrestleMania is hosted, the NFL team from that city makes the playoffs the next season. So think about this, 2021, Tampa, the Buccaneers make the playoffs.

2022, Dallas, Cowboys, make the playoffs. 2023, Los Angeles, the Chargers make the playoffs. 2024, Philly, the Eagles make the playoffs. And of course, the Eagles also won the Super Bowl as well. It's interesting. I think there's obviously a lot of coincidence there, but I like this. I like that we're making this a thing now. So if WrestleMania is in Vegas this year, does that mean the Raiders are next?

Are the Raiders making the playoffs? Is that, is that? I mean, if this theory is true, then that's the case. And that'd be big for the Raiders. They haven't been in the playoffs since 2021. They haven't won a playoff game. since 2002. So if you're a Raiders fan,

you should have your fingers crossed at the NFL WrestleMania playoff. The WrestleMania NFL playoff theory is true. But I just love that we're making that a thing. Alberto Chavarin. Shavarin? Shavar, I hope I'm saying.

One of those is probably right. This is on Facebook. Chris, who do you think will be inducted into the Hall of Fame next year and who will be the headliner? I think it's John Sina. Like if we're going to keep the momentum going after John Sina retires in December, I think that they make a Hall of Fame announcement shortly thereafter.

So, I mean, it's obvious. John Sina's going to be a Hall of Famer. Why not do it right after he retires? I think that that's the, that's just makes sense. Like that one's a no-brainer. I also think that since they always do a tag team now, and they also do.

do a women's legend. I think it's demolition. Like, how the heck are demolition? Not in the Hall of Fame. And then I think it's China. And maybe it's not China next year, but it sure felt like with Triple H mentioning China in his Hall of Fame speech

and not shying away from her at all, China's going to be a Hall of Famer. And then I don't think it's next year and this opens up a whole other can of worms and a conversation for another time, Stephanie McMahon's going to be a Hall of Famer. Again, maybe it's not anytime soon. I think you can say the same thing about Shane.

No time soon, but yeah, they're going to be in the conversation too. But next year, John Sina, if that becomes a line on my bookie, I think it's as good as done. Like John Sina's the headliner next year. Maybe Rock is the next year or year after that, but John's Suna next year. Ben, Ben Falbion, Falbion, Ben Falbion on Facebook. With Dirty Dom getting cheered at WrestleMania,

do you think that the cheering will persist and grow? If so, what do you think they should do with his character going forward? I think that was just everybody respecting Dom and the hard work that he's been putting in because he falls into that category of, like, he's just fun to boo. Like, he's doing healish things. but he's just fun to boo. You don't hate Dom. You're just like, it's the thing to do.

It's that, you know, he comes out. His music hits. He gets on the mic. You boo him because that's the thing that happens when Dominic Mysterio is out there. That WrestleMania crowd was just fun in that way. Like cheering Dom, also cheering John Cena, booing Cody. Mostly, I think, because people just wanted to see history be made. And John Cena win number 17.

but Dominic Mysterio is in rare air right now, where he can keep doing what he's doing. He can keep doing the heelish things and keep getting a baby face reaction. And I truly don't think it makes him a baby face. In the same way that like Stone Cold would get the what chance when he was a heel, but then kept getting the what chance when he was a baby face and he just made it part of his thing. I think that even though you might cheer when you hear Don,

Dom's music, when he grabs the mic and brings it up to his mouth, you're still going to boom. At least for a while, I think, just because that's what you do. That's the fun thing you do when Dom is out there. But we're just starting to scratch the surface of what Dominic Mysterio is capable of. I'm pumped for him to win the Intercontinental Championship. It's the first of many Intercontinental Championship wins. I think this is the precursor to him being world champion. at some point. I don't have a timeline on it. But when I did that interview with Ray Mysterio last

year, episode 619, by the way, he said, oh yeah, there's no question that Dom's going to be a world champion. And at that time, I was like, oh, that's a nice thing for a father to say about his son. Like, of course he supports him, even though Dominic doesn't even, like, just calls his dad the deadbeat all the time. Instead of saying my dad, he says my deadbeat. Hilarious. I thought it was a nice thing for Ray to say. But when you think about it now, like he has all of the tools to be a world champion. And I think it's just a matter of time. That's where this eventually goes. But this right now, him being the intercontinental champion, that is one step in this process. Kirby Rachel on Instagram, the Terrell Owens edition. In John Cena's quest to ruin wrestling, do you see, insert

Santino's voice, a John Tena. entering the money in the bank match and winning it, just so that no one else can challenge him for the belt. That would be pretty healish of John Cena. I would love to hear your thoughts on this. P.S. Thank you for all of your time and insight that you put into everything you do. We, the real, real ones are grateful for you. I'm happy to have you as part of our weeks.

Kirby, that's too kind. Thank you. I've seen this theory floating around a lot. That is definitely something someone would do if they were trying to ruin wrestling. but I can't see this coming to fruition. It would be unprecedented. That is for sure. It would be unprecedented for the WWE champion to be in the money in the bank match

simply to eliminate at least one more contender to eliminate that cash in possibility from happening. I love the theory here. I just can't see this happening. It'd be cool. it'd be very interesting. As it stands right now, I think that Money in the Bank match is going to,

whoever wins that essentially doesn't just get the, a chance at a world championship, you essentially get to call your shot with John Cena. And I think that that's such an interesting factor here. Because I think for so long it was like, all right, well, I've got this for a year. I can cash in whenever I want. want wherever I want, of course. Now it basically is going to give you a chance to like have your

moment with John Sina. And that's cool. So I think that there's just an extra layer on top of the money in the bank match as it stands right now. It's still a month and a bit away. But that's the way that I see it. John Sina being part of the match, man, it'd be so interesting. I, I just, can't see it happening. I've been wrong a lot, though, but I just don't see that being the thing. John Kerich, K-E-R-E-C-Z. John K-R-E-C-Z? What's the most, this is on Facebook, what's the most surprising thing you've learned about success from interviewing so many high achievers? I love this deep question, because it's not just wrestlers. You know, I've talked to So many different people from so many different walks of life, from wrestlers to comedians, to actors,

directors, entrepreneurs, authors, all of that. I think one of the biggest common threads through all of it, regardless of what their occupation is, is failure doesn't deter them. Like, it's not win or lose. It's win or learn. And I think that that's a big thing. There's so many people that are scared to even start. There's so many people that are scared to even try if they know that there's a possibility that they could fail or they could look silly. And I think that that's one of the biggest takeaways for me is like in order to achieve great things, you have to be willing to make yourself like make yourself vulnerable. It's that Zig Zigler quote. You don't have to be great to start, but you have to start to be great. I think for me,

me, that's been the biggest thing. And also the idea that like people who have achieved great things in whatever their field is, they're not afraid to try new things. Like, they're not afraid to start a new business that doesn't work and they have to fold up shop after 12 or 18 months and like move on to something else. And like, all right, what are the lessons I learned from that that I can apply to other things? That's it for me. And that Zig Zigler, quote. You don't have to be great to start, but you have to start to be great. That, to me, sums it up best. Here's an email from Isaac who says, hey, Chris, my name is Isaac. I haven't been a listener for very long, but I am already a huge fan. I had seen clips floating around the internet

for a while now, and a few months ago, I decided to dive into your full show. Well, thank you, Isaac. I'm really glad I did because it's awesome listening to wrestlers and the wrestling adjacent in a long format. I've made your show part of my Friday night routine at the gym. And in fact, you've responded to a few of my stories, which I think is so cool. I may have had a fanboy moment when it first happened. All of that being said, here's my question. Well, questions. You seem like a guy who obviously takes care of himself. What kind of splits are you on at the gym? Also, what is your favorite training day? And what is your favorite exercise of all time? Thank you for keeping my airwaves entertaining Isaac Lasia.

I hope I'm saying that right. L-E-I-J-I. I appreciate that you found my clips online or my clips found you and you decided to dive in because I get it. I talk about this all the time. It's real easy to watch a 37 second clip. Listening to a podcast like this one right now that's an hour and 10 minutes long, it's an investment of your time.

So I appreciate you for trust. me with your time and here we are it's an hour later an hour into the episode and here we are what is what kind of split am i on i'm on like a push pull and i will preface this by saying my time is so limited now being a dad and any parent will be able to understand what i'm saying my time is so limited that i'm getting if i'm lucky an hour to go to the gym not an hour to workout at the gym, an hour to drive to the gym, do any sort of cardio I might do, get in the workout, sauna if I'm going to do that, and then drive home because I'm just in a place right now where I can't say to my wife, we have a daughter, Logan, who's almost two years old,

and our baby boy Cooper, who's four months old, it's just tough with all of the chaos going on to just say to Rachel, well, I'll see you later. I'm going to go work out. So have fun with the screaming kids and changing diapers and figuring out naps and trying to feed them all and warm up bottles and all of that. Like I'm trying to be as present as I can be. Like when I'm home, I'm home. And when I'm working, like when I'm in St. Louis next week, I'm, I'm working. Like, I am getting to it. So I'm trying to be as efficient as I can be with my workout. So I'm push, pull, legs and shoulders. So three day split right now, usually. And I'm not like, I'm getting to the gym when I can.

So four-ish days a week or five days a week. So it means I'm doing, call it one and the body parts one and a half days a week. So you know a push pull is, but I will explain this for everybody else. We're doing chest and tries, back and buys, legs and shoulders. And then abs are thrown in generally at the end of all of those days. I've also been doing, this is so silly, getting full. believe I'm saying this. I've also been doing calves at the end of every workout. I saw Alex Hermosie, if you know who that is. He's jacked. He's a jacked entrepreneur makes content. He was

talking about how he just does calves at the end of every workout or the start of every workout. It's because he wanted to, when he wears shorts, wanted to have big calves. And I'm like, yeah, why not? Like the barrier of entry of doing calves is so easy. Like do some calf raises, do three or four sets of 10 or 12. That's it. It takes five minutes. So that's what my split has looked like. My favorite training day is chest. I just love the feeling of the pump. And like there's something cool about you put a put your shirt on, you put your t-shirt on to go work out. And it fits a certain way. And then by the time your chest workout is done, it fits a different way. You know what I mean. Favorite exercise of all time.

It's got to be something to do with chest. I think it's inclined dumbbell press. I don't know. I think the angle of it and like building that shelf at the top of your your peck, that's always been something that I've really enjoyed. And like the pump you get specifically from dumbbells, but like an incline dumbbell press. Yeah, I think that's, that's definitely it for me. And that, my friends, is the final question here on Ask CVV number 81. Happy birthday DVV on May 2nd. Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, an art monk edition.

I'd love to hear your questions for Ask CVV number 82. If you're listening on Spotify, leave a comment on there with your question. If you're listening elsewhere, sending it on social media, using the hashtag AskCV or shoot me and email CVV at chrisvanfleet.com.

You are a real, real one for being with us on an AskCVE episode and listening all the way until the very end. And of course, there's the option or the ability to become a real, real, real one. By coming to our next live show, CVV ticks.com. I'll see you in New York City for that. And I said too much earlier.

I will probably see you in L.A. for a live show as well. I saw this thing. Bobby Lashley shared this. And it's a Snoopy comic. We're going to use this as a quote. Charlie Brown is saying to Snoopy. We only live once, Snoopy. And Snoopy says, wrong.

We only die once. We live every day. I just thought that that was so powerful. I love that. Be great and be grateful, my friends. Have an amazing weekend. We'll see you on the next one for some more insight. Our truth is back on the show on Tuesday.

You don't want to miss it. We finally get his first comments about how he feels about his childhood hero, seen at turning heel. It's amazing. You don't want to miss it. And then Indy Hartwell joins us on Thursday. Have an amazing weekend. We'll see it next week for those ones. The Hammer Alley podcast, an 80s flashback mockumentary. Back in the 80s, there were a thousand bands trying to make it in the world of rock. But there was one band that had it all. Hammer Alley. Whatever happened to Hammer Alley? How did they go from top of the rock?

I'm looking for a music video. They're a band from 1987. Hammer Alley. Ever heard then to rock bottom dude i was born in nineteen eighty seven i can't believe he's doing this hammer alley follow and listen on your favorite platform