Insight with Chris Van Vliet - DDP Is Changing The World! Randy Orton's RKO, Cody Rhodes, Royal Rumble, DDPY

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

https://cvvtix.com - Tickets for the first ever INSIGHT LIVE the day before the Royal Rumble on January 31, 2025 in Indianapolis are on sale now! Diamond Dallas Page (@RealDDP) is a retired professio...nal wrestler and WWE Hall of Famer. He sits down with Chris Van Vliet in Atlanta, GA to discuss being in phenomenal shape at 68 years of age, helping the stars of the past and present recover from injuries and addictions, his recent work with Lex Luger, being a surprise entrant in the 2015 Royal Rumble, if Randy Orton asked permission to use the Diamond Cutter as his finisher and more! Quote I'm thinking about: "When the old man knocks, I don't let him in." - Clint Eastwood Subscribe to DDP's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Dallapage Sponsors: VUORI: Get 20% off your first purchase! Get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on the planet at https://vuori.com/cvv ROCKET MONEY: Join Rocket Money today and experience financial freedom: https://rocketmoney.com/cvv ZOCDOC: Instantly book a top-rated doctor today at https://zocdoc.com/insight BONCHARGE: Use the code CVV to save 15% off your infrared sauna blanket at https://boncharge.com/cvv BLUECHEW: Use the code CVV to get your first month of BlueChew for FREE at https://bluechew.com RHONE: Rhone’s premium performance clothing is made to move you. Use code CVV to save 20% at https://www.rhone.com/CVV MANSCAPED: Get 20% off plus free shipping when you use the code CHRISVAN at https://manscaped.com PURE PLANK: The future of core fitness! Use the code CVV to save 10% on Pure Plank which was designed by Adam Copeland & Christian: https://gopureplank.com/ PLUNGE: Get $150 off your Plunge with the coupon code CVV150 at https://plunge.com For more information about Chris and INSIGHT go to: https://podcast.chrisvanvliet.com If you have ever enjoyed any of these episodes, could I ask you to please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcast or Spotify? It takes less than a minute and makes a huge difference in helping to spread the word about the show and also to convince some hard-to-get guests.  Follow CVV on social media:  Instagram: instagram.com/ChrisVanVliet Twitter: twitter.com/ChrisVanVliet Facebook: facebook.com/ChrisVanVliet YouTube: youtube.com/ChrisVanVliet TikTok: tiktok.com/@Chris.VanVliet Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Van Fleet. Hey, welcome back to another one here on Inside. I'm CBV, Chris Van Fleet. Today it's CVV and DDP. I love it. Thank you for being with us on this one today. And thank you for making Insight the number one wrestling podcast on the planet. I'm sure you're already following the show.
Starting point is 00:00:42 But if by chance you're one, one of the jabronies who just listens to the show but doesn't follow the show, hit a diamond cutter on that follow button so you can stay on top of what we've been cooking up. I've mentioned this before, but episode number 700 is right around the corner. And we've got a guest for that episode that is massive. It's someone that you guys have been requesting for years. And we finally made it happen. So I don't want you to miss out on that one.
Starting point is 00:01:10 DDP was actually our guest for episode number 500. So it's been a while since he was on the show, yet quite a while. But I'm so grateful to be able to call him a friend. And I just love the way he genuinely cares about people. And I think we should call this episode beers with DDP because we drank, I think it was four beers over the course of this hour and a half here. I landed in Atlanta. This was bad blood weekend.
Starting point is 00:01:37 I landed there. I was staying at DDP's house. And when I got there, got to the house, it was like 5 p.m. his wife, Paige, and yes, her name is Paige Page, Paige was like, do you want to drink? And who am I to say no to a nice cold beer, especially one in a frosted mug? She pulled the frosted mug out of the freezer. How was I supposed to say no to that? So we had one.
Starting point is 00:01:59 It went down so smooth. And Dallas was like, well, we've got some time before dinner. Do you want to knock that episode out? Do you want to record right now? And I'm like, yeah, I mean, yeah, let's go. Let's do it. and we brought some more beers down into the basement to record. And this conversation is really just like us catching up after not seeing each other for a few
Starting point is 00:02:20 months. And it's impossible not to love Dallas. He's the best. And we did this interview that evening, the next morning. He put me through his gauntlet. DDP's gauntlet. You'll be seeing it on his YouTube channel soon. And it's intense.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Like, what a workout. It's a cold plunge followed by. hypoxia training on the exercise bike. So you're wearing an oxygen mass. Then you get on the mat, some DDPI, then some weight training while wearing his power cuffs, and they are the real deal. Power cuffs does blood flow restricted therapy. So like you're wearing these, it cuts off the blood flow. So you're just focusing on that muscle. And it's a fraction of the weight that you're lifting, but with the same or maybe even better results, like the pump you get with this is insane. So subscribe to his DDPY YouTube channel so you can see that when it ends up coming out.
Starting point is 00:03:15 But this is such a great conversation. I hope that you love this as much as I did. And snap a screenshot. Let us know you're listening and tag us so we can share it as well. He's at Real DDP on Twitter. He's at Diamond Dallas page on Instagram. I'm at Chris Van Fleet. And here we go.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Beers with DDP, the one, the only. Diamond Dallas Page. We're back at it. It's good to see you on camera again. We chat all the time, but good to do. We do. And just so people know, we're on beer three, we're only having four. Oh, geez.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I don't know if I've never drank on the podcast. Either of I. What are we doing here? You know, I've actually, I hardly ever drink anymore. I still, I'm not saying not to. You know, some people shouldn't. But, you know, it's so funny. Back in my days, you know, coming up as a kid, like, I drank a lot.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Like a lot. But nothing, as it's Scott Hall used to say, but you're a civilian dally. You're a civilian. You don't know. And he always just to say to me that, you know, I don't know, you know, you don't know what's like, well, when I help Jake. And then Scotty was coming in. I said, you're right, I don't know, but he does. So that's really leveled the playing field for that whole
Starting point is 00:04:48 magical time that was the resurrection of Jake the Snake. I think people will be shocked to know that you're drinking beer. But this is a, and nobody's paying me to say this. Not yet. It should be. But this is a gluten-free beer. And if I could drink Durham, I was in the UK, which I love going to, to the UK. I mean, so many people come out at workshops and the signings and for the love of wrestling
Starting point is 00:05:15 that, I don't know if you've heard about that signing they have over there. No. Man, those people came out in droves. It was, it was awesome, man. I really have a great time every time I go to the UK. But on one of my trips, I'd been out in this little in New York, but out in like a little area where just pubs and the reason I was out there was because they had not camping, but glamping. Because that's the part of the closest I get to forget. You need plumbing?
Starting point is 00:05:47 Is that the deal? I need a real bed. Okay. Yeah, I ain't plumbing. You shower and you feel like you're the bathroom, you know. But I did never forget when the ceilings were low in this one section and boom, hit me square. You know, in a day he's sleep, getting up and going to the bathroom, right? But I said to the guy, I sat down and I said, I'm looking at your menu here and you have gluten-free fish and chips.
Starting point is 00:06:19 He's like, yes, we do. I'm like, oh, my God. I go, there's no chance you have gluten-free beer, is it? He goes, oh, yes, we do. And it's the best one I've ever had. And he goes, because I'm a silly. I go, no kidding. I go, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I go, I'm gluten-free because my joints feel way. better and nothing tastes better than feeling good, like really good. And he brought that beer out. I was like, damn. So I could find, I searched for gluten-free fish and chips to rest of that tour. Because if I'm going to go and do a signing like I did for love of wrestling or my buddy James up in, up in Wales, if I'm going to be out there and doing it, then I'm going to throw workshops around it. And then I want to see the country. Now my wife, of course, page she wants to climb whatever the mountains are and they're only about 4,000 feet but they're from sea level to 4,000 so it's still a real hike and you know she loves that and me i go and go to de bioga
Starting point is 00:07:21 or go to the gym or power cups or whatever so well look cheers saloop bro good to have you back it's good to see you thank you as always for welcoming me into your home you guys are the best and i just appreciate you so much look at us for your camera maybe over here i don't know Do people think because your wife's last name is McMahon that she's related? One of my favorite stories ever is actually really, besides Cody, the first of the boys that I introduced page two. So that's what I was doing the thing with AEW and doing the math, you know, building up to the thing with being MJF and then the match,
Starting point is 00:08:02 which MJF, by the way. Fucking awesome. As soon as I got that with that kid right early on, you can just be around him for five minutes and realize if he can just shut his mouth at certain times, he's so money. Like, he's so money. And I do love him.
Starting point is 00:08:23 And so to be able to do something with him and cut the promos back and forth. Yeah, you were nose-to-nose with him. Oh, dude, dude, frigging, when I shut up at one point and we're doing that shit or whatever's happening, and the whole AEW Arena starts chatting yoga, yoga. I laughed so hard, but back over to Jericho. So I'm with page.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Now, this is going to be my match, okay? And so this is 2020, right? Because what I realized, the only reason I decided to do that was because I talked to Cody about it, like probably November of 19-12. me. I talked to Cody about it in 2019. We're having a few beers back then. And, you know, we're having a good time and said, you know, I think I got one more in me. And you had given a diamond cutter the previous year at all in. Yes. And it was after that. Now there's an AEW.
Starting point is 00:09:19 And I'm like, you know, I think I got one more. Next day, I called them up and I said, hey, bro, I think I, I think I had a few too many beers last night. Let's show that. Because, dude, I'm not, I'm not good for that. He goes, hey, dude, no more. No, no, Orrers. Orrists. If you're ready, you let me know. So, and I start thinking. You see, I actually, I probably wrestled for two months, frigging, like one day a week,
Starting point is 00:09:47 but I looked like somebody at 23 years old. I had the long, blonde hair, and I wanted to be a wrestler so bad, but there was no one to train. And I ran into guerrilla monsoon and got him to give me the number of a guy named Tito Torres. He said, me and my buddy John Shipley drove up to Jersey City, wrestled one day a week, and then I wrestled like four times, and he's got me on a show. I know nothing.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Bottom line, within two-month period, maybe I got to the third match, and I hurt my knee. And a doc said, take off some time. So now I take off time that, you know, because I hurt my knee. And as, you know, I, got a chance to run my first little rock and roll joint and then the booze the brawes in a party took me in a different direction i forgot all about the dream of wanting to really be that wrestler and then in the 80s wrestlemania happens and you had them on your show jessie ventura
Starting point is 00:10:55 i see gorilla who i've met before right got a number for him from for you know tito torres and i say Who's this cat with the leather on and the bow and the shades, crazy shades and the do-rag? It's Jesse Ventura and that voice and that presence. I'm like, this cat, he's the bomb, right? Bringing the first guy through the curtain, got a foo man chew, and a bag over a shoulder. And the way Jake watched, because I'd stop watching wrestling, after WrestleMania happen, I'd stop watching. And then I was looking at channels And I see this and like, who is this cat?
Starting point is 00:11:37 And then I watch him in the ring. I'm like, damn, I can't see through his shit. And then I hear him kind of promo. And I'm literally asking myself, Did I miss something? Did I miss something? Is his shit real? I mean, it was that real.
Starting point is 00:11:55 That's what Jake Roberts was to me. It was so many ways he came through my life. Seven months, eight months later, he walks in my club that I'm running now a big club in Fort Myers, Florida, and he rolls in. Like, you can't make that shit up.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And of course, I've freaking, I'm like you would have been if fucking you said, oh my God, Jake Roberts there, before you did this show and built your audience and all that.
Starting point is 00:12:23 But fresh, you'd have been like, oh my God, I gotta meet him. You know, and I'm freaking hustled over to him, and I've seen him, I slowed down.
Starting point is 00:12:30 They didn't want a fan boy on Snake and rolled up to him. I was like, hey, man, you Jake to Snake Roberts? Who wants to know? I said, the guy who owns his place? And I didn't really own it, but I had a small little piece. And he said, yes, what can I do for you?
Starting point is 00:12:55 I said, what do we drink it? Jake and I got fucked that night. What was your drink at choice back then? Oh, my God. My father called me a garbage drinker because I could drink anything and everything. And I'm sure my gut suffers for it today. You would never see if I'm in beers, I'd have a shot or two of tequila, but that's it.
Starting point is 00:13:15 What I say? Beer before liquor? Never been sicker? Yeah, yeah, to me. Liquor before beer, you're in the clear. Yeah, but bro, friggin, if back then, I was drinking every shot. I was in the bar business.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Of course. I was making shit up as we would have. Smurf piss was one of the things we drank. Smurf piss. Smurf piss, which was vodka, blue curso, sweet and sour, splash of seven, shake it up. It actually sounds pretty great.
Starting point is 00:13:41 It really was. You should have some of that later. Not a chance. The last time I drank anything past the kills was with Michael PS-Hase, and don't let me forget about the Jesse Venture thing. It was Michael P.S. Hayes, and he had come into L.A.,
Starting point is 00:13:57 and Michael's one of top writers in WWA. But he also was one of my brothers who, man, I met him when I was in the 18, and I got in a car with him one time. I don't even know how it happened, but Jerry Jared is driving. Marlin, I can't remember his name. I can't remember Marlon's name,
Starting point is 00:14:19 which was a shotgun. He was his booker, PSAs and me in the back. And it's when they were trying to put the clash for the pay-per-view of the AWA, the Memphis and Dallas. and they were trying to pull it all together because they're going to do their own pay-per-view because Vince and, you know, and Crockett were doing it.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Well, you're not going to do it anything like those guys. Sure. But they were trying to put it all together and me and Hayes bonded over that time together. And when I came in to manage him, he had actually given me his phone number, so I'd been able to stay in touch with him. And I always say,
Starting point is 00:15:01 it's not about who you know or who knows you. It's not who's willing to say they know you. Who's willing to make a call and put their name on the line for you? So Jimmy Jam and Michael, they need some kind of, you're just a fresh up, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:16 give them another face. So Dusty brings me in and puts me with them. And Hayes says to Jimmy, two of the best talkers ever, ever. He says, this guy's got chops. we're going to put our backs to the camera. Dee, you come through us and you cut the promo.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Okay? A good thing I've always got shit like prepared in my head long before that. And I nailed it. And that was the beginning of my start, but it was Michael putting me in that spot. But back to Jesse, I saw you had him on your show. Yeah. I love Jesse Fitzger.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I still can't even believe that happened. Yeah, dude. I mean, I love, I've always loved Jesse Ventura when he came to Fort Myers because I met him in Tampa. Somebody had walked over to him. I was down working for the AWA. And he said this guy, I mean, I was patient loved to meet you. And he walked over. He was just, he was exactly how I would have acted to somebody, especially a guy coming up and trying to figure it out, you know. And he was super cool. And he says, he goes, if you, if you like me and I can't do Jesse. now, but I could. Back in those days, I had Jesse down.
Starting point is 00:16:37 You have so many other impressions. I can't believe you can't do Jesse. I can't do it anymore. I figured I lost it because it's repetition. We need to call Will Saso to. Oh, my God, no, friggin' carrion. This is so good. He's so good.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I loved it. And I think Jesse loved it too, because you didn't know it if he didn't. Yeah. Don't tell me. God. Caron, to me, is one of the most underrated players in the game. Totally agree.
Starting point is 00:17:07 The look, the size, the rap, the charisma. I mean, to me, man, that cat gets god bumps on that, man. That cat is like our boy, L.A. night, you know, like another guy. He just needs an opportunity. And I think the carrying cross was able to show what he was capable of in NXT. Give him that same opportunity on the main roster. You know, I think, I think it's like anything. it's like we were just watching something
Starting point is 00:17:32 when Teddy swims and he said he's got patience written on the top right to remind himself, be patient, motherfucker, you know? And that's the hardest thing we all have. And I was the same way. And in 95, I was most approved wrestler of the year,
Starting point is 00:17:48 according to Pro Wrestling Illustrate. That's like a shoot award. You look at guys who got that. And Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, there was a lot of guys, Stone Cold Steve Austin. Those guys got that, you know? and I felt I was so ready. But it didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:18:04 In 1996, I thought it was so ready. And at the end of 96, that's when the NWO thing started to happen by the time. 1997 rolled around. I wasn't ready. I was ready, waiting, and able. I had all the, everything, all the stars were aligned because I worked so hard to get there, just like Teddy's, what Teddy Swims is going through right now. Yeah, what was his line?
Starting point is 00:18:27 It was like, you need someone to believe in you. Yeah. Yeah, never underestimate the power someone gives you by believing in you. It's so powerful. For me, it was Jake. Before that, it was the assassin. Assassin number one, Jody Hamilton from the power plant. But the first mega guy was Jake Roberts.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Later it would be dusty and then it would be Hulk. What else do you need to go where no one says you can go? let's take it way back here to you were saying Jericho oh yeah thank you how do you remember that because I'm still so curious about it she's Paige McMahon page yeah and then obviously McMahon so I introduced Chris he's like hey well you give you a hug I go hey I want you to meet my girl she's this is page
Starting point is 00:19:16 anyway page you're a page and he starts she goes yeah he's drinking him she goes she goes I go baby tell me what your middle you're maiden no tell me what's your last name it. She goes, McMahon. He went, it was so classic. It was so classic. And he laughed. He laughed so hard. Jericho is one of my favorite people for a number of reasons.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And we really got close after wrestling was over for me. And really, in the heat of everything, like I've said it before, like, Jericho, to me is this generation's Rick Flair. Rick Flair wrestled for, decades, you know, for decades and was over as hell. And Jericho has found a way to reinvent himself over and over and over again.
Starting point is 00:20:05 He's wrestled 90s, 2000s, 2010s, 2020s. It's crazy. And that's where this whole conversation started. So in 79, I have, let's call them, three matches that were brutal before I'm out. But I'm 23 years old. I have a card that I'll show you. later that says whoever's on top and then it says handsome Dallas page 250 pounds I'm on the car like a name like I'm no one I know nothing I mean nothing and then um let's where is I
Starting point is 00:20:46 go with that so 79 right so 70s when Dusty brought me in for Florida championship wrestling 89 big steel man who was tugboat bringing Fred Otmer um i was managing him and he's wrestling dick slater you can find this match on youtube slater gets five minutes with diamond dallas page if he beats big steel man of course he beats him we got a full house and slater you know takes me you know he eats me up but he does give me some stuff, which is kind of crazy. So I had one match in 89. I had the 90s.
Starting point is 00:21:28 I had 2000. So that's four. In 2010, Ray Lloyd, a.k.a. Glacier, he calls me and he says, hey, date, I know you're done. But would you work
Starting point is 00:21:42 a six man? I mean, we just want the name value. Just get in there, do a little me hit a diamond cutter, you're done. Yeah. I think, man, I'm like four decades. That'll give me five decades. I'm going to do it. So the main reason I did,
Starting point is 00:21:58 now we're bringing this all the way back to MJF, is it's 2020. That'll give me six decades. Preposterous. I don't deserve six decades by through fate somehow. It's not like God, any of the greats who really did wrestle. I'm sure nature wrestled at least six decades, you know. Yeah, it's got to be.
Starting point is 00:22:22 What about Funk? Funk, got to be really close. You know, guys, there's so many guys that deserve that. I don't deserve that, but it was, it's fun to talk about, you know. You're turning 70 in a year and a half. Yeah. Would you wrestle at 70 years old? No.
Starting point is 00:22:39 No. You know, it's so important for me. Like, my body feels good. And I remember Bruno, Bruno San Martino and I did something. My buddy, Sal Carrenti, was really, the first guy and he was ahead of his time to do i can't remember what he called it but it was something of um you know meet the greats it was some wrestling name rumble i can't remember what it was called but i mean he promoted it so well he got me and bruno on espn to talk about this big you know
Starting point is 00:23:16 Dusty was a headliner as a signer, and Bruno feud with Zabisco, and I was going to be his second and get it in wrestle for Bruno, who at the time is 70. And I love Bruno of San Martino, dude. There's a picture from that night right here. There's that shot.
Starting point is 00:23:40 We'll super close that. Look at that. Yeah, what's put it right here. Look at that. When Austin saw that picture, he was like, Wow, wow, you got that. Like Bruno, I mean, you don't get no bigger Bruno, you know.
Starting point is 00:23:52 And so I tell Bruno, I go, because, hey, what we're going to do? At the end, we'll do the schmaz, and you come in and you light Larry up and ball on. No, no. I mean, I feel too good. I mean, the aches and pains, most of them are gone. I'm good. I'm like, okay, Bruno, you know what happened at the end? He went in there and lit Larry.
Starting point is 00:24:15 He just couldn't He couldn't stop himself, you know? That couldn't be you? I don't, like I said, I am there for a diamond cutter. I do want to hit one when I'm 70. Okay. In a WWE ring?
Starting point is 00:24:30 I would love that. I back Cody would take one. I bet Cody would take one. You know, Cody, let's go back to the last time that, or I did a rumble, you know, and I'm, no one knows it,
Starting point is 00:24:44 And we are, we are, we have resurrection of Jake the Snake at Slamdense Film Festival in, which is going on the same time as the, uh, the other big Sundance Film Festival in, um, Park City, Utah. Yeah. No one knows. I fly to Philly. They, you know, they fly up to Jersey and they drive us into Philly. And they, they're having a big party.
Starting point is 00:25:13 And everyone's saying, I'm not there because my throat. Oh my God, my throat was so bad. I was talking with me. There was an interview on YouTube of me with Larry King and Scott and Jake. I'm talking like that. I mean, dude, I had, I blew it out, pushing myself too much. And so I got enough of a voice to talk, and I get a text from Cody.
Starting point is 00:25:39 He goes, he says, how apropos, I will be the first that you hit with the cutter. And it was Cody and then Vandango and then the immortal, Ray, Ray Wyatt, friggin, boom, boom. And then PSA's Booker, right? He's booking his whole thing. He goes, and then you know what happens? And me and Bubba, who's also going to be in the rubble.
Starting point is 00:26:12 look at each other and again, here comes Randy. And he goes, oh, God, I can't remember his name now. The Russian handsome son of a bitch. Rousseau. What? Roussef. Roussep, what a stud. I'm sorry, Rousseff.
Starting point is 00:26:26 A Miro. Yeah. No, freaking, what a stud. So he's going to take you out. I'm like, I mean, Bobbo, look at each of you're like, really? Like, wait a second, the legend killer. And Randy, a lot of people have heard me talk about him. One of my favorites.
Starting point is 00:26:41 It's one of my favorites of all time. You know, I think the most underrated guy maybe ever in our business. Because even though he's seen here, he could be on Mount Rushmore. I mean, he's had, he's had everything. And he's still got the look and the size and the rap and the work and the promo.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I mean, he's again, he's a guy who's gotten all the breaks and frigging kick their asses. Yeah. You know, so the legend killer, but haven't killed me yet. And I want to take it so bad. Like I do.
Starting point is 00:27:15 You know, I had this vision of the rumble, right? And friggin it comes down. Here comes Randy. And friggin, he goes for it. And I get out of it. And then I go for it.
Starting point is 00:27:28 He gets out of it. And then it turns into, of course, the RKO. Did he ask for permission to use the cutter? You know, he wasn't, when Randy wasn't even there,
Starting point is 00:27:39 when I left. And I called him later on about it. Like, I wanted him to use, I wanted him use it. But he never remembered the phone call because he was coming out of surgery. And it was right around the time that I called him. He was all, you know, banged up because freaking he come out of surgery and stuff the day I called him. And later on, like Michael P.S. Hayes and Joe, Johnny Ace is really the originator of the one arm kick it out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:08 but you jump. Yeah, but for me, it was out of nowhere. Randy took it with the jump. And Randy did things with that shit that I couldn't. I wasn't athletic enough to do what he did. And I love what he did with it. But my favorite cutter ever, I had him on an interview with me recently.
Starting point is 00:28:31 If you haven't seen it, check it out. Me and Sammy Cabaro. And that, him and Cody. And before that, it was, Frankie and Chris on that exhibition. That was the timing. They're really, it's close. I mean, it's like this.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Sammy's with Cody above like the one in the latter, right? Oh my. Yeah. They're on the cross thing and Frankie Springboards. Sammy and Cody and last. I mean, like, Ultimate X is the other one. Yes. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:02 But what about Randy Orton giving the RKO to Evan Bourne out of the Shooting Star Press? Oh, unbelievable. I'm like, I say, Randy, one of my, I can remember Eddie coming up to me and going, hey, because we're working on Saturday night, main event, right? And I'm getting ready for the Malone thing. I was doing with Rodman Hogan. And he goes, Dee, he goes, have you taken a diamond cutter of a power bomb yet? And I went, God, how are we going to do that, bro?
Starting point is 00:29:29 You junk, I get my face down. I'm like to get you up. He goes, no, no, pick me up and roll me on your back. So I grab him. and now he's hanging backwards, right? I go, I literally go, now what, Eddie? He goes, boost me. And Eddie, of course, the athlete,
Starting point is 00:29:47 he could have been like a gold medalist, you know, gymnas, you know, in the rings or whatever. His body control was so unbelievable. He spun and he slid down my back. I went, wow, Eddie, we could hit that. That's some of my favorite diamond cutters. That's what for me. That was, and it was all.
Starting point is 00:30:06 But later I would see Dolf and Randy, Dolf, he goes to the power bomb Dolf. And I don't know how. Dolf's a freak. Ziegler is a freak. He boosts him up and Ziegler somehow gets out, pancakes out, and they go down. You know, to be one of the original people
Starting point is 00:30:31 who really got that shit over and to see how many guys do different. different versions still today. Yeah. That's fucking mindbox. I had 50 ways into it. Yeah. But there's really like 350,
Starting point is 00:30:45 go to the Randy and everybody else who does their shit, you know? If you've watched any of these interviews on my YouTube channel, you know that I know a thing or two about a good plain t-shirt. It's kind of become my uniform at this point, just a solid black t-shirt or a solid white t-shirt. I have found the most comfortable t-shirt. ever with Viori's Dream Knit Collection. The Ponto Performance Tea is amazing because it's so soft and lightweight and has that four-way performance stretch.
Starting point is 00:31:16 It's versatile so you can wear it for something like an interview or going out. It's also something that I wear to the gym all the time. Same with their Ponto Performance Joggers, which are, oh, so comfortable, I wear them in and out of the house all the time. In fact, you'll never see me in an airport wearing anything else but the Ponto Performance Joggers. Viori is an investment in your happiness. And for anybody listening right now, they're offering you 20% off your first purchase. So get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on the planet
Starting point is 00:31:48 by going to Viori.com slash CVV. That's V-U-O-R-I-com slash CVV. Your energy is so infectious. And I love this. There's so many people who, when their age, starts to begin with a four or a five or a seven, or a six oh man i'm old i'm i you know i'm old i can't do that anymore where did this mentality come from for you where you you never act old you never feel old you're not old well there's
Starting point is 00:32:23 heroes that i have all right one semester stalone um another's arnie um clen eastwood i'm reading something And Toby Keith was a buddy of mine. Not super close, but enough for her. I did something. He got back to me or whatever. And I had some good times with him. He's a really great country artist. And he's a mega legend, right?
Starting point is 00:32:52 Yeah. And I see this article. And I start reading it. And he said that he's out golfing with Clint. And at some point, he said, so Clint, what are you doing tomorrow? And Clint said, this is six years ago. All right. He said, I'm going to be 88 years old.
Starting point is 00:33:14 He goes, no kidding. You know, look at man. Like, what are you going to do? He said, I'm starting another movie. He goes, on your 88th birthday? He said, yes. He said, Clinton, how do you do it? And he said, when the old man comes knocking, I don't let him in.
Starting point is 00:33:36 and I was like, the repetitions of affirmations leads to belief. And once that belief becomes a deep conviction, things begin to happen. That became one of my affirmations. I don't let them in. Get up. Like drinking beers and I view,
Starting point is 00:33:57 I rarely do this anymore. Me too. But I do it for health reasons. Because I don't need, I'm still not going to be afraid to have a couple cocktails and drink some tequila. but I'm still going to drink smarter because I am six months from 69. Now, do you ever heard that quote before?
Starting point is 00:34:16 The repetitions of affirmations? Yeah, you know where I heard it from? Me. Yeah. For anybody who's listening, the repetitions of affirmations. It's Ali. Exactly. It leads to belief.
Starting point is 00:34:28 But once that belief becomes a deep conviction, things begin to happen. The repetitions of affirmation can be really bad. And that's what happens to a lot of people. That's the story. They tell themselves. 100%. It doesn't have to be like that. And I watched Jake Roberts completely turn his life around at the darkest moments of hell
Starting point is 00:34:51 and watch him get back with his ex-wife who he's been married to twice and had two sets of kids with. And they're so Cheryl. I love, I mean, I couldn't be any happier for the both of them. that's the guy she always loved. You know, and for Jake to do that, he had to change the story he was telling himself. Like, one of the things about resurrection, if anybody's never seen it, go to Amazon Prime. It's on there. The resurrection of Jake Roberts.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Yeah, Resurrection of Jake's Snake. And there's scenes that weren't in the movie because we didn't have cameras going. And this is a powerful one. At one point, he came down and, I'm such a loser. And he hunched the marble counter. I go, dude, what are you doing? I'm such a loser. I don't even know it was pissing him off.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Instinctively, I just said, come here, bro. And I walked him in the bathroom. And I said, what do you see? He goes, a loser. I go, stop fucking saying that. I go, look at your shirt. shirt said it was a picture of a skeleton and it was all in red
Starting point is 00:36:11 and he's waving a flag and you'll see that t-shirt very early on in the resurrection date to say because he's wearing it for it all the time and it's waving a flag that says wasted youth I said every time you look in the mirror and you see that fucking t-shirt
Starting point is 00:36:30 your subconscious tells you you wasted everything fucking stop wearing that shirt. You wear shirts with Maryland, but not Marilyn, with Manson on it. Charles Manson, would you want any of your kids anywhere near them?
Starting point is 00:36:45 I'm like, fuck no. I go, stop putting that motherfucker over. He was scumbag. Fucking, you should be wearing fucking positive energy.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Fucking unstoppable. Shit like that. And he walked away. 20 minutes, he came back later. And Jake's an artist. And he had drawn this t-shirt and on the thing and said, my history is not my destiny.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Like that found shit. Yeah. I can't tell you how many people are sober because of Jake Roberts. Yeah. I can't tell you how many. Well, and then take that back one more step. Jake Roberts is sober because of you. Dude, I owed him.
Starting point is 00:37:33 there was a point in time during the fucking pandemic those fuckers for doing that to us there was a time where I really bought into it like I thought fuck the shit's these guys are serious before I really realized everything that was happening but at one point I kept telling Jake because he was staying with me for a while over that period and I said doesn't Jake
Starting point is 00:37:59 if you go out to work I mean, I got Brittany here, my daughter, my granddaughter, Oakley, you know, and Paige, and like, dude, I don't want you to bring anything back, bro. Like, if you leave, you're going to have to stay gone. He's like, okay, I got to go. I got to go work. Okay. So, he ended up in a hotel room. And then at some point, at some point, in that hotel is no one except for Jake.
Starting point is 00:38:29 and the person who's working the desk. So it's really kind of like, what's that movie that Jack Nicholson was in The Shining? It's kind of like that. And I saw a tweet or something that Jake did that was kind of like rough. And I called them up. I said, what do you tell you?
Starting point is 00:38:50 I said, I'm coming to get you. So I go downstairs and I come upstairs and I see Britt and she's in the kitchen. And I said, Now, listen, I know I told me couldn't come back, but I would go get Jake. I'm going to bring him back here. She goes, you know I love Jake. And she does she loves Jake?
Starting point is 00:39:11 But she's like, but doesn't he have other family he can go do? I said, little girl, I'll own this house without him. You're right? You're right, Dad. You're right. So Jake, Jake and Dusty, like those cats. I mean, I had the greatest minds in the world mentoring me. I was watching the Butterbean video for the first time, and I had tears in my eyes as I was watching it.
Starting point is 00:39:43 The change you made in his life is, it's unbelievable. It really is. When he walked in that door, oh, my God. I looked at Steve, and I was like, man, I did not know. Because he's bent over. But he couldn't stand up. He couldn't do it. But he literally, when I saw him walk in, he didn't have the crutches under it.
Starting point is 00:40:06 He was holding the little handles and he walked like this. It was like, I'm like, oh, dude, how are we going to help him? And of course, Steve, the ever positive Steve, he's one of the positive lights behind me that makes me shine through positive. He said, but what if we can? And later we'd laugh about that. Now, understand, too, there's a lot of times I wasn't there to train him all the time. And that's where my boy Josh Nair comes in. And he's one of my master instructors.
Starting point is 00:40:41 He's working for us for a number of years now. And he's a great instructor, but he's also a great human being. And he went through a lot of that stuff would be, like everything I taught him to do. but it's all together. And Steve was there. Like my whole crew, and you've been a number of them. And my whole crew is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Yeah. Like they, they love the fact. Like Kimberly, my ex-wife, Kimberly, the Diamond Doll, is the CEO of my company now,
Starting point is 00:41:14 which I had to bring her in because I needed her. I needed to get some corporate structure around what we're doing because they can't just continue. We wouldn't, We've been killing it since the Arthur Warman video happened for 12 years. And as you grow, you build a mass of, not debt, because we don't have any debt,
Starting point is 00:41:37 but, you know, overhead. So you need to keep everything. Like, I can't, I don't, when I get to 70, I'm not done. But we're building, which I told you about the retreat in Panama City Beach. As of this year, end of this year, I'm not. I will be there with Paige. And we're going to do retreats down there. We'll still film a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:59 And a lot of the people who come like they come here, everybody's going to want to come there. I think people are going to be blown away to hear that you and Kimberly Page are still cool. Oh, man. You know, anybody who knows me knows I love my ex-wife. And my wife, Paige, loves my ex-wife and vice versa. Like, these are two women. And like, I very blessed with the first and the third, very blessed.
Starting point is 00:42:28 And not to say anything negative about the second. I was just very blessed. The first and third were complete game changers for me. And the two of them are so alike and so smart in some ways and completely opposite in other ways. And Kimberly's husband, I love him. He just came over and helped me build the backwards. I guess you'd call it. It's a treadmill, but there's no power. You make your own power. So it's
Starting point is 00:42:57 really great for your knees. And I love him. And we mean him have been tight for 15 years now. And you know who else does that? The Rock. Speaking of him, there was a comment on the Butterbean Instagram video where Rock said, this is amazing. He was putting you over. I left you a voice note. Yeah, wow. And you don't have to get into it, but... There, pour yourself. Oh, boy, here we go.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Number four. But this is that high... What a conversation, this shall be. I'll tell you, it was super cool to get that message. And the only way I can put this is the rock's the biggest star in the world. Yeah. Still is. And been there for a decade.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Yep. Kind of like, you know, Sly and Arnie were about... back and forth, you know. There's one right there. But to get that message, it wasn't just one, it was three. And it was so cool that he said, man, I'm watching this butter bean video, and I thought, fuck, man, I got to hit you up. And he talked about the bean video and how, you know, proud he was of me.
Starting point is 00:44:21 and what I've done to help the boys. Because, you know, the only people who help the boys, really, who help the boys, is the cauliflower hourly club. And, you know, my man, guys down there who are Brian Blair from Killer Bees. He's the CEO of that company. You know, none of the boys who go in there get flown in. nobody gets anything. All the money,
Starting point is 00:44:54 they're going to put you in a circle. I was lucky. They put me in a circle as a wrestler and as a humanitarian. And it was a huge award in the 50th anniversary of those guys. But those guys, Brian Blair and all the guys who work with the Colliery Flyer Alley Club,
Starting point is 00:45:12 they give back and take care of the boys. And from what I understand more and more, WWE has been helping out and Chip, you know, helping that whole scene out over there. And I look for them to maybe do more because there are guys who shouldn't, you know, who paved the way in a way, you know, I think about superstar Billy Graham, man, like that was, you know, along with Dusty. That was one of him, Bruno, him and Superstar, Bruno San Martino, Larry Zabiscoe, love Larry that too. And Dusty Rose, like those are the guys who coming from.
Starting point is 00:45:49 the Jersey shore. Like, there are the guys. I was like, wow, these fuckers are bigger than life. It seems like under the new regime, Triple H has been signing people to these legends deals just to say, like, we appreciate you. Like, thank you. And it's so cool to see that.
Starting point is 00:46:06 I can't remember. It was at Somerslam. Cody had said, did you hear about the email that went around? I said, no. And they said, these are the legends who are going to be here. and they just brought different guys in. Like, I was there because Bronson Steiner, Rick Steiner,
Starting point is 00:46:25 Real Day, but Braun Breaker, he'd been working in his gym with me for two years. I was helping him get ready for Baltimore, you know, to go for the Ravens. And that didn't work out. But he's going to be a megastar in WWE. And so getting there to see him when the Internet Continental Championship was huge.
Starting point is 00:46:49 and always being there for Cody for me. But when they set that email out, they had a little bio in each person, just a little one. And what they said to their crew, the boys and the girls, a lot of those people don't even know how we are. They weren't even born.
Starting point is 00:47:12 You know what I mean? And understandable. It's like, here's who they are. Just don't say hello. Thank them. and you know it was really it was really cool uh for me because i i'm a fan of sam punk and just this his whole just his whole punkism that he is you know how he is so over with the people
Starting point is 00:47:33 uh he literally it came up to me when he saw me he day did he gave me a hug he goes and he literally said that he said you man just wanted to welcome you in and uh thank you wow that was super cool punk you know and i got a lot of respect for him anyway because it's it's amazing to me like like the the grip he has on the people like he can do no wrong man yeah that reaction when he came back to wwee or survivor series was crazy yeah really was yeah really was and i think it was good for him in a way that he didn't screw his uh tricep up i'm sure he didn't think so at the time but sometimes what i've learned in my life is sometimes that things it looked like the worst thing never happened to you,
Starting point is 00:48:19 turn out to be the best. If you can just do, like I was saying, Teddy wears patience above his, above his eyebrow. If you can just be patient, if you can breathe through it, and just keep moving forward and keep a positive attitude. They call this, like, there's a science wrapped around this now called positive,
Starting point is 00:48:39 excuse me, hope molecules. Like having a positive attitude. The story you tell your, I do a whole thing on living life at 90% being that life's 10% of what happens to you and 90% of how you react to it. And then that story, that repetition of that affirmation can be good or it can be really bad. If it's bad, you can pretty much, you're predestined yourself to failing, you know. And when you start to realize that failure is on the way to success.
Starting point is 00:49:18 that you have to fail to live that dream you're on your way to because no one just goes win, win, win, win. Yeah, yeah. You know, they don't. It's been so fun watching so many of these PLEs with you. Like we've both been in the same building at the same time. Royal Rumble, you're like, where are you at? I'm in the press box.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Actually, we were texting. And then half an hour later, a tap on my shoulder. Bro, what's up? How did you even get in here? That was so, and then after that, I'm like, we're going down to the press conference. Do you want to come? Like, yeah, where is it? I'm like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:57 We're just going to follow the crowd and head in there. I don't know how you found your way in there. That was wild. That was so wild. You said there in the press conference. Yeah. You need to ask him the first question. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:13 And next thing, I know they're handing me a microphone. I'm asking him for the first question. That was great. Like, that is the power of manifesting something into reality. It starts with a thought that has spoken word and then repetition. Again, I've lived the dream over and over and over again. I've also failed on the way there. and I used to say a line every
Starting point is 00:50:47 I've ever a wrestler say in a long time but it's not about how many times I fall down it's about how many times I get back up again that was a another repetition say again it's Rocky 6 Rocky Balboa
Starting point is 00:50:59 again how many times do you get hit how you can take the hit and keep going so he's moving forward same same thing though that's a cat I'll tell you I gotta read you this
Starting point is 00:51:10 because this on the same page This is one of the most impressive things, ladies and gentlemen, 68 years old and reading his phone and a normal-sized text with no glasses on. Unbelievable. That's only because I have contacts that are put in my lenses. I'm just saying, everybody else goes, let me read this text. They're helpful for their readers and they put them on. And that makes them feel old.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Ah. So you read, you read this, okay? And because it's fun. need readers. You read that, and that's from the official. This is from Sly. This is a comment on the Butterbean video. Congratulations to Butterbean, a real warrior.
Starting point is 00:51:54 I am stunned, all caps, by Diamond Dallas Page and his extraordinary healing abilities. And then we got below that, The Rock. Incredible work, my brother. Respect to all of you with a heart emoji and a whiskey emoji left to a voice note. Yeah, that's pretty badass. And the comment that I left on there, which I mean with my whole heart is, the world is a better place because DDP's in it. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Thank you. Yeah, I really don't. That, that have sly notice that. Like, who fuck? You know, like, wow. Like, all as I can see, please, someone hear this, see this and say, you got to get a hold of DDP. Because I want to put those power cuffs on him, which we're going to be doing tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:52:48 You're going to be doing the gauntlet with me, DDP's gauntlet, which... Just the new and improved gauntlet. You know, look, look, for a year and a half, I've been filming these things. Yeah. But I didn't know how to tell the story where we wouldn't lose them because this is awesome, but we're going to be working out. Now, how do I hold you in between those times? It took me a year and a half.
Starting point is 00:53:11 It took me... I failed at putting it together, and I failed at putting it together. Now, it could have gone out, but not with my name on it, not with my face on it. Yeah. Like, I put a shitload of work in every single thing I do.
Starting point is 00:53:27 So I'm not just going to throw shit up against the wall. I will, as long as it's on my wall. But I'm not going to put it on your wall until I'm comfortable with it. And then I realize, wow, things I have from the first time we were together. going to be fun. Yeah. Get it on. But also it's going to be, you know, fun with different people that have gotten into coal
Starting point is 00:53:51 plunge the first time. You're not going to have a big deal with that. But you weren't even in the plunge. You were in a... Rubber made tub with ice cubes in it. That's what you had. Now you got an actual plunge. Plunge.com.
Starting point is 00:54:06 The real one. It was a horse drop. That's right. And you're the one who turned me on to Ryan. at plunge. And that's how we have the plunge today. But how do I make that really entertaining? So it took me a little over 18 months.
Starting point is 00:54:25 But tomorrow, you're going to see how that flows through. And we just piece it together with a guy named Judd Lorman, and he is an actor from SEAL team. Great guy. I met him with AJ. AJ did a... AJ Stiles? Yeah, AJ Stiles. a swing for the cause.
Starting point is 00:54:44 And it was him and Toby Keith. You don't do it? Not Toby Keith. Cody Jenks. Do you know what Cody Jenks is? Yep. I love. I mean, I've got,
Starting point is 00:54:52 what it's turned out is all of my favorite artists, have become my friends. And I really, it's such a cool thing. And they're wrestling fans too, not over the top, but wrestling enough. And Cody and AJ,
Starting point is 00:55:05 you know, AJ is one of the greatest of all time. And absolutely, first ballot, you know, freaking hall, Pamer. I mean, he's, he's phenomenal for a shoot. And there's times I'll just text him over to years. I was like, you really are superman. Did you see that reaction he got a backlash where the crowd
Starting point is 00:55:25 was just going wild for him? Crazy. Like, I got tears in my eyes watching it because I was just like, you know that line and you know the movie Moneyball? Yeah. How can you not get romantic about, how can you not get romantic about baseball? That's how I feel about that moment and that backlash for AJ. How can you not get romantic about wrestling? There's so many great moments like that, but for AJ, man, what a thoroughbred. What a, what a, what a thoroughbred, you know, we, and the fans have been so lucky. This is a great time for wrestling. I want to go back to what you were saying about earlier, about Triple H, you know, that Triple H, you know, triple H, you know, freaking regime is unbelievable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Because this cat is really one of the boys. not wanting to be is at its highest level and understands all the things you're going through because if you go back to the curtain call, who was the whipping boy after that? Triple H. Looked like the worst thing ever happened to him and the biggest pitcher turned out to be the best.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Because that cat has seen it all. And I have always believed he's one of the fairest guys and mainly how he treated me. because there's a story that's been out there for years that the day that Johnny Ace gave me the one-armed diamond cutter, which was the Ace Crusher, he just kicked that. Big Peace sign, kicked out. Stephen Regal taught me the cravat.
Starting point is 00:56:54 I put the cravat on you. Unless you're Brock Leicester, you're not going anywhere. I'm going to friggin' hold you. And if you don't go, we're going. Brock, I'm not so positive about, but everybody else, and maybe big show. everybody else is going. So, you know, I came up with the added nowhere thing because of Jake Roberts,
Starting point is 00:57:18 watching hours and hours and hours of Jake Roberts, because that was my guy, you know. And then I mixed them all together. And that's what made it, that move was each part of that, you know. Yeah. But you're right, though, going back to that. What an era we're in right now. with Triple H at the helm of this. I got to tell you,
Starting point is 00:57:41 that's the point I was making. That triple H one night, because I watched everything. If I was on a road, I come home and it's all taped. He did a diamond cutter. Out of nowhere. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:57:54 oh, God. Of all people, like, he'll make it better. That's exactly what I thought. He'll make it better. I called them up. When I tell you,
Starting point is 00:58:06 it's the only time, he's ever answered his phone, the only time. Kind of like when I called Scott Hall and resurrection. Only time he's ever answered his phone. He answered his phone. And he's like, hey, D. I'm like, hey, bro. I said, I got a favor.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I want to ask you. Sure, what do you need? I go, no, I don't say yes yet because I don't have the right to ask you this. I saw you use the diamond cutter a night on the finish. And you had pedigree. He's super cool, man. I love that finisher for you. man, that diamond-cutter, bro, I'm just starting to get it over.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I said, I would so appreciate it if you wouldn't do it. Sure, D. He never did it again. Wow. Like, he didn't have to do that. He was like, he could, like, come on, dude. And I went, yeah, you're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:58:57 It was stupid. But I had to ask. Yeah. But he didn't have to ask. Yeah. He already said, yes. Like, that's who Paul Levec is to me. And as we went through the ride of Scott Hall on his way to sobriety,
Starting point is 00:59:11 we were talking all the way through that as well because he wanted to know, you know, he never wanted to put Scott in any kind of position that could make him fall back. Did I hear you've been working with Lex Lugar? Yes, yes. So Lex has been in a wheelchair for a long time. 15 years. Wow.
Starting point is 00:59:33 You know the craziest part about that. the day that he got paralyzed. And it was, I'm not sure exactly why it happened. But I've been wanting to see him because I'd heard he'd, you know, found God. And he'd gone through this change. And to be honest, I couldn't believe it. Because I know Lex. And I know when Sting got saved, Lex would bury him.
Starting point is 01:00:01 And he loved Sting. but the god shit he didn't want buying it and i know the good and the bad of lex and i still loved them through all of that once we became bros we were tight as hell but i hadn't talked to him in a long time and he'd gone through a lot of things that had happened over that period and eric wats is the one who told me he goes you got you got to see lex you're not going to believe it i go what do you mean, I got to see Lex. I go, you hate Lex. He's like, no, I don't. I go, you wanted to beat his ass. You hated Lex. And he's like, you're right. I did, but I don't anymore. We're roommates. What? What universe am I in? I mean, that's how much Watts hated him. Yeah. And he's like,
Starting point is 01:00:49 you've got to see this, man. He's like, he's, his belief in Christ and everything. It's, it's real. And I said, man, I'm going to San Francisco next week. I can't. can't wait to see him. And that was the night that Lex ended up going down. And the promoter who had just paid me said, I just got to call Lex at some kind of heart attack or something. There's EMTs in there. He didn't know why. There was no heart attack. But when I ran to the room where he was at, there's Lex sitting in a chair. I'm like, Lex. I come up, I get him a hug. Are you okay? I'm okay, I'm okay. You didn't hug me or anything. I didn't really realize. I didn't really realized. I wasn't thinking at a time, but looking back, I know he didn't. And the EMT's
Starting point is 01:01:35 are like, Lex, you have to go. You have to go to the hospital. No, no hospitals. No hospitals. Like, Lex didn't have anything then. He didn't want any more dead. He's a very proud guy. And he didn't want any that. And, you know, I'm looking to him. And I know things that have happened to the boys when something like this happens. Like, you got to go to hospital. Like, you got to go, bro. Because you think so, Dali. I'm like, no, bro, you got to go. And he goes, well, you know, my hips are bad. I go, I'll help you.
Starting point is 01:02:07 So the EMT got one side, I got another, and we picked them up, laid them in a table, and they took them off. The guys who were the EMTs, this is God's work. They're both humongous wrestling fans. They pass. They're in, frigging San Francisco. They're in Cal Palace area. This is the hood. they go through all those towns to get to Stanford,
Starting point is 01:02:34 which is one of the best hospitals that there is. And the nurse, when he gets there, name is charity. They end up taking him, a couple of days. In the first class, they have to wheel him in. I don't know how the hell they got it all done. But they fly him into Atlanta, where he goes to the shepherd's center. and he's nurse is hope and he's in no bullshit room 316 okay so whatever is happening here me and steve are there like the next day and by this time he's starting to get movement back
Starting point is 01:03:20 in his fingers and his arms a little bit no legs and lex had had two at a hospital that was going to and a doctor's going to give him new hips. But now he's paralyzed. Somehow, Lex talks them into giving him new hips, even though he has no movement. Because his rationale was that if you get me moving, I won't be able to walk anyway because I couldn't walk before. and they put the new hips in and over time.
Starting point is 01:04:03 And I've got video footage of me and Lex working together with Steve taking this from 14 years ago. Okay. Maybe more than that, I don't know how many years ago it was. And then Lex finally gets up and he starts eventually because he's so relentless moving and walking with a cook thing and then a cane and then no cane. And then he had a pothole and he went down.
Starting point is 01:04:27 and that's where he was for the last X amount, whatever years it's been. And when he saw the Butterbean video, we were both at Sting's last match. And I'm sitting there, you know, watching the monitor. And we're the two guys who are WWE guys. That's it.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Basically said, we're going. You good with that? We're not going to go on camera. We're good. And they were great. And he rolled up next to me and he goes, Dally, I saw the butter bean video, bro. He's like, I didn't know you had chair workouts. I said, well, I didn't have them back when, you know, when you and I were working, he said, I said, I got him now.
Starting point is 01:05:13 He goes, you think maybe, you know, maybe we could start. I'm like, dude, how many times have I asked you to start back up again? I'm like, absolutely. Yeah. Come over Monday. And we got met up to that. We've been working together about whatever Stings match was, it was that following Monday. So do you think that Lex could walk again?
Starting point is 01:05:35 I don't know. I mean, I really don't. You know, there's a, there's so much nerve damage in there. I really don't know. But I do know that if it's possible, Lex going to do it. And there's, there's, there's so many things I do in the chair workouts, even the bed. Like, no one can tell me you can't do yoga. starts in bed.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Like you can't get out of bed. I got like nine workouts for you in bed. Then chair for sitting in a chair. That's where I focus. Most of my thing is chair and then getting him to stand up and then go back down and stand up and go back down. Standing is one thing. And he can do that now?
Starting point is 01:06:18 He can stand. But it's, you know, it's, it's for moments. That's a big improvement. No, it's a huge deal. But, and I'm going to put that, we're going to put that video out soon and let people see that in Stan, it's, no, it's, it's, it's shaking. Yeah. But, you know, it's, it's pretty, it's pretty amazing. And again, what I do is every time he works out, it's a completely different workout.
Starting point is 01:06:50 I'm adding, subtracting, changing, growing. And I've never done this before with anyone. So I've got our first workout. Do you know how many people are in chairs that aren't paralyzed? You know, there's a lot. How many people are in those little scooters and the freaking, there's a lot. They'd like to be out of that. Well, you could start here because this guy was paralyzed and he's got nerve damage.
Starting point is 01:07:20 You can surely do what he did day one. But every week, when it'll be on the app at some point? When we get to wherever we're going to, it'll all be in a sequence. So you could, wherever you're at, start where he's at. Where do you say to those people who say, I just can't do it. I can't even work up the energy to even start working out. I deal with so much anxiety. Where do I even begin?
Starting point is 01:07:49 Well, if you're going to tell yourself that story, you're fucked. Okay? You want to change that story. Like I said, it thought. It starts with a thought, a dream, an idea. And then you got to write it down. Just don't think it, ink it. Type it in your phone.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Make it an alarm. And that's why I don't let the old man end. Because I'm too busy looking at, how can I take, like, I take care of me big time. Like all those gadgets you see in my crib, they're for me first, then for you. If you're smart enough to get them,
Starting point is 01:08:35 then you're going to be way ahead of the curb. Because I've got all these toys in my 60s. You'd have them in your 30s or 40s or whatever it is. Yeah. Like all the same shit I do is what LeBron does. What Braille. was doing and still does, I'm sure. But there's still so many things that you could do for free.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Breathwork or journaling. Any, my breathwork is number one. When I want to help someone through anxiety, which every single one of us have, I have it at some point, maybe every day. And the first thing I'm going to do is this. I control that. And then I'm going to do it again.
Starting point is 01:09:34 and then I'm going to let it go. I'm controlling it. When you control your breath and you're taking deep inhalations and exhales, you are activating the hypothalamus, which is connected to the pituitary gland in the brain, which helps with anxiety and stress due to the physiological effect,
Starting point is 01:10:01 it has on our nervous system. Like, that's not DDP talk. That's called, Medical Journal breathing. When you're deep breathing, I'm reading a book right now. I'm not reading. I'm listening to a book right now called breath.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Oh, that looks fantastic. And the five breaths in and out all through the nose. I tape my mouth when I sleep now because that's good. I last night, I woke up. I did it three days in a row and then I wanted to see like, okay. Life changing. My throat was so dry. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:37 that I go, tonight, I'm back to taping. And I'll find out what kind of tape you. Have you seen the photos of like people before and after taping or the twins, like one person's a nose breather and one person's a mouth breather and just the shape of their face? That's fascinating. I've been taping my mouth for three years. And people would think you're crazy until you really care about your health. Anybody listen to this guy?
Starting point is 01:10:59 What? He does what? Right. And dude, only because I know that book. Yeah. Do I know what you're talking about? Because they don't really, they still don't understand it. It sounds just stupid.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Like, okay, do your thing. The crazy thing about what you're just talking about here is so many people have never even thought about their breath ever. Ever. So you saying, like, what I control is breathing and breathing out, most people haven't even taken a concentrated breath ever. And the biggest thing is, and I'm just going to take that breath here. But this one, I'm going to push all the.
Starting point is 01:11:36 air out, I'm going to squeeze my obliques of the abdominals. I'm going to push it all out every. Probably 98% of you have never pushed all that air out. I do it all the time. And again, it's one of the things that keeps me young. Owning your breath, when you are owning your inhales and exhales, especially if they're three, four, five seconds is the best from what I've seen. And according to that book, you are sending. neuro hormones to inhibit stress-producing hormones, which triggers a relaxation response in the body. Again, out of a medical journal, not my words. That's one of the books I recommend the most.
Starting point is 01:12:31 It's James Nestor, breath. Such a good read. He's great to listen to. He's got such a great voice. I'm a little perplexed with his feeling in that nitrogen. is better than oxygen. I'm a little like I'm not really buying that because all I know is since I've been doing
Starting point is 01:12:51 and we'll do this again tomorrow. Doing hypoxia training where I breathe, we're breathing 20, 21% here. When you get at 10,000 feet, 11, 12, that percentage drops dramatically. Yeah. I train at 6, 7% max. Wow.
Starting point is 01:13:11 For 10 minutes and I'm going to walk backwards on my treadmill. know for my knees. These are all things I'm doing because I should be bone on bone and should have to have knees right now and I don't. How long can I go?
Starting point is 01:13:25 We'll see. Can you still lift your leg up over your head? Well, let's see. You got a few feet. Let's see. Let's see. You know, I take that as a challenge. He has it, no warm up here.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Three and a half beers in. How about a 224 pounds? Damn. A twisted steel and sex appeal. and wow six months from 69 um again i'm the first transformation of my program yeah and now i got my muscles back feel that arm brother let me see damn that's rock hard that's power that's a lot more hard than mine and you know it's it's i nothing tastes better to me been feeling great nothing taste better to me in being unstoppable.
Starting point is 01:14:18 And so many people will eat shit, and I'm not going to. I'm going to eat the closest thing to real food that I can find. And I'm going to fill my mind with as much positivity as possible. And every single person can do it. It takes time. It takes repetition. There's two words that you always come back to. And I've known you for years.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Unstoppable. That one's pretty obvious. but the other one's relentless. Relentless. What does relentless mean to you? You can't beat me. You can't beat me. You might beat me down.
Starting point is 01:14:56 I've been beat down plenty of time. I'm going to come back. And I'm going to keep moving forward. If I believe in it, and you may make me change my mind. Okay, maybe that wasn't working as well. Well, how about if I do it like this? Then I'm going to come out of it again.
Starting point is 01:15:12 I'm not going to let you beat me down, man. I just, no one needed to believe in me when I started, because it was just me, but I had to believe in me. Yeah. You know, and then I was lucky enough to have Jody Hamilton and Dusty Rhodes. And then Jake to steak Roberts and, you know, and then Hulk Hogan, you know, I mean, and Randy Savage, not Randy doing that favor for me. Like, that was a big deal, boy.
Starting point is 01:15:42 but I never dreamed that it could have changed my life so dramatically. So many people point to you as an inspiration for having success in your 40s, not just in wrestling, but just life in general because so many people think their life's over at 30 or 40. Crazy. But look how many wrestlers now are having crazy success in their 40s. It's awesome. Right.
Starting point is 01:16:08 I mean, we'll list off a few here, but L.A. Knight and Damien Priest and look at the shape AJ's in now and the shape that Randy's in now, Chris Jericho now in his 50s, it's changed a lot. It has a lot. And I think it's, it has a lot to do with like a lot of these guys weren't big partiers and they can still go. Now, I know Chris can drink like a friggin racehorse. He's a rock star. I mean, he is, Chris Jericho is his own animal, brother. He is, he is, I don't know how he does what he does. But I mean, I love watching them. I will never, I will never hit fast forward if I see Jericho heading towards the ring. But I think that there are a lot of guys, look at Edge and Christian. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it's, I'm glad they can. And I hope to see,
Starting point is 01:17:03 that's every one of those guys. And AJ's going to come here. He's going to do the Gauntlet. He told me he would. And I know JJ says he's going to do something he will. And he's got a lot of the things I have here. He doesn't have everything. I saw him at a coal plunge recently. Yes, he's got a cold plunge. Yes, he does. And he understands holding back to the hands of time because he's there now. Yeah. You know, everybody thinks he'll never get there, but you do. What do you think of the other DDP, the UFC star? I think he's a badass son, bitch. Tricis D.C. I think he's a bad man. Have you connected with him at all? No. My buddy Marlon is trying to reach out.
Starting point is 01:17:41 have DDP help DDP. Yeah, it's DDP and DDP. I would love it, you know, but, you know, I don't, I really don't go out of my way to make an effort to, like, help anybody unless they're coming at me. I just, I don't, I'm not trying to sell it. I don't give a shit what you do what I do or not. Yeah. But if you're really, if I do care about you, then I'm going to, you know, I get over here.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Let me just show you this, you know. know, and maybe it'll help you. It's a pretty mind-blowing that we're able to talk about all the wrestlers who are successful in their 40s and 50s. There are so many guys from your era that didn't even make it into their 40s. Didn't even make it into their 50s. What was different about the era then? Ooh.
Starting point is 01:18:30 Way more partying, man. It was hard. Like, the first time that I was ever, when I understood what pills and booze meant, was Jake and I were doing independence because I was let go by WCW and Jake put a, we're in a club and he threw a pill in his mouth and chewed it up.
Starting point is 01:18:53 I go, Jake, did you just chomp on a on a Percocet? He's like, yeah. I go, why would you do that? Those things taste like shit. He says, well, he goes, helps go to the brain faster. when you chew it up in your mouth, it just does.
Starting point is 01:19:11 I don't know how it works like that, but it does. And he said, I said, I said to him, I said, how many is that? I don't know, 12, 13. Oh, wow. That was not a lot for Jake. And guys, I know, that was not a lot. But I was like, why would you take so many? And he said, they lose their effect.
Starting point is 01:19:37 And right there, I'm not saying I never took a pill and had some drinks. but it was a pill. It wasn't multiples because I needed those fuckers to work. And what happens to a lot of guys back then because you drink so much and then you try to kill some of the pain with muscle relaxers.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Well, your heart's a muscle. And there are guys who would take five pills a couple of bikes, drinks, and then buy more. Buy more. And I'll tell you what I see today. From really from the CM punk era back, a lot of these guys are straight edge.
Starting point is 01:20:27 And I find it fascinating as hell that they don't drink. They don't take drugs, you know, and they manage true, like Darby Ows, one of my boys. And I am just blown away by the shit that his body can go through. But you can bet your ass. Every time he has one of those stingers, he's here with me. I have this video footage of you hobbling around. And I put him in the frigging plunge back and forth at a hot and cold, hot and cold,
Starting point is 01:21:03 got him on the mat. And then I put this, this PMF machine I have. It's $20,000 machine. And it pulsates your body at a different level. And later on, downstairs running around. Like, he was going to be at a sprinter event. Yeah. Like it only because there's not all that garbage in there.
Starting point is 01:21:30 And, you know, Marcus, we help Marcus turn his life around. Bagwell. But one of the hardest things it's been because he had such polluted his body with drugs, not a lot of alcohol. It wasn't, Marcus was not a big alcoholic. But he's sober and thank God for all the way around it. But when you're putting a combination, and Steve found this out of Soma, Xanax, and booze, it does whatever it does.
Starting point is 01:22:03 and you could be just like this and that can happen. And I'm so proud of Marcus. I mean, a lot of people still, you know, they're mad at him for whatever reason, but I love the guy. And I'm so proud of him for being able to turn his life around
Starting point is 01:22:22 because it was dark. And you'll see, we're going to come out with it probably in the next three to six months with a series we shot a year and a half ago that Butterbean was one of the, the major successes of it. The other one's Bagwell. But you're going to see change or die.
Starting point is 01:22:38 And you're going to see a guy who does not think he's an addict. And at some point, realize, you know, and they'll tell you today. Yeah, I was an addict. And he's so proud of his sobriety and you can just look at him and go, wow, man, you look good, bro.
Starting point is 01:22:53 But it's still taking time for him to, you know, the sobriety to clean your body out. And eventually it'll all happen and he'll beat him. He's a much better spot, but he's got a great lady right now. Stacey, who've known her for years, and he's just a really good spot. And I'm really proud of him. Look at all the people you've helped. Scott Hall, Jake Roberts, Buff Bagwell, Scotty Riggs, butter bean.
Starting point is 01:23:18 The list goes on and on and on and on and on. Why? What do you get out of it? That's my wife. That's my first wife. That's my third wife. Let's say because he can't help himself. And that's her, that's her, that's what Paige said to me the other night.
Starting point is 01:23:38 She said, I said something about something. She goes, yeah, right? She goes, you can't help yourself. And when I'm really lucky about Paige, she, she's like the same thing. And she's, she has to have her private time, you know, when there's nobody in the house. But you know, you're here. You got a lot of people here. Barland's here.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Yeah. Drew would have been here today except for he couldn't be here for family. thing. But there's a lot of people who come in and out of here. But that's what this is all part of it. You're so opening. You're so welcoming. Like any time that I've ever done anything
Starting point is 01:24:16 in Atlanta, you're like, you're staying with me. What are you talking? What are you? Of course you're staying with me. It's a question. Why? I don't know. It's just who I am. I don't know how to answer that. You know what? And that comes back to
Starting point is 01:24:39 what I was saying earlier. That the world's a better place because you're in it. Yeah, thank you, bro. You know, the biggest reason why is something that I heard Zig Zigler say, fucking 45 years ago, he said, you can get whatever you want. Yeah. As long as you help not people go what they want. And that just became like part of my DNA, you know?
Starting point is 01:25:03 Yeah. So good shit, man. And it's been a hell of a ride. Are you ready for tomorrow? You ready for the glottlet, part two? Let's go. We thankfully edited it out last time, but when you put me on the oxygen machine last time,
Starting point is 01:25:20 I almost puked. And I'm in pretty good shape. It wasn't because your body didn't. I want to let you control. There's a dial now I have. So you can see how much oxygen you're getting. I just won't go as hard. I was like balls to the wall.
Starting point is 01:25:37 You were. You were, you were. And that's some shit we'll show it was just funny like. It's like, oh, I need to recover. And I did. I did. It would be like you running up
Starting point is 01:25:50 because it wasn't that what level I had you. It was, and this is what I've learned over the years of doing this, when you add the tension in. So say you go on a, you're pedaling air or suddenly you're pedaling at a level seven. Yeah, it was like one percent.
Starting point is 01:26:07 percent oxygen or so much that. The pushing the work in to maybe 12 or 14 percent oxygen. Yeah. Like you just don't run up that fucking mountain. Yeah. You go up, my wife has sought me, and then you stop. Yeah. And you, sometimes you gotta go down, like she's had that, that sickness.
Starting point is 01:26:26 You get, what are the-altitude? Altitude sickness. Like, that's a real thing, man. Like, she's had it. And she's climbed, you know, Mashupiku. She's quite climbed Kilimanjaro and food. Mount Fuji. Is she going to do Everest? Yeah. Her hand, she has that. She would have done it already if she could have, but her hands
Starting point is 01:26:45 had, uh, Bernal. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Cold, right? Yeah, her hands get too cold. I have to, like, warm her hands up for her and stuff sometimes. I will, uh, wrap this up with the same question. I, I've asked, I've asked you this several times before, but first of all, thank you for always being who you are. And I just, uh, I appreciate you, bro. And I love you. And you guys, back at you. And thank you for just being the person that you are. Gratitudes the cornerstone of my life. And I heard this quote recently. I know you'll love this.
Starting point is 01:27:17 No amount of regret can change the past. No amount of anxiety can change the future. But any amount of gratitude can change the present. 100%. What are three things that you're grateful for right now? Oh, God. Number one is my wife and kids. But, you know, I've been so blessed on so many of them.
Starting point is 01:27:37 My granddaughter. If you ever would have told me at six months, at six months, I said it'll be five months and four months, you know, whatever it is, right now, it's six months from 69 that I would, you know, be in the shape I'm in and be able to do the shit that I can do. I'm so grateful for that because I know most of us aren't that lucky. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:04 But, you know, I'm grateful for, the openness that it took to be able to be open to so many things that other people weren't. You know, like... You have a curiosity. And I don't know, my, my grand, my niece, my goddaughter, and my niece was here, same person. Sammy was here today. And she came rolling in and I'm on the oxygen walking backwards. I'm going to go into a cold plunge.
Starting point is 01:28:35 And she has this map. And it's, I took a picture of it. And this is so crazy because this is my niece. But Paige is like, oh, my God, this is so your niece. And it's called Kenjo, right? Yeah, I was standing on. Okay, so I see her standing on this thing and I've got the mask on me, so I can't ask her anything about it.
Starting point is 01:29:01 So later on, I said, so what were you standing on? and she goes, oh my God, Uncle Payne, just like it's like, it's for your feet and it helps the receptors and blah, blah, blah, blah. I was like, I was listening to myself. And she rolled that. She was, want to try it? I go, sure. And I got on.
Starting point is 01:29:18 I was like, whoa, what the hell is this? Because it kind of like, it sticks you and grabs you. By the end of it, I'm like, they're like, you know, Prime's having a sale. You should get it then. I'm buying it right now. I'm going to get one of those. It was like, it was something that added to all the footwork.
Starting point is 01:29:35 that I'm doing. So the curiosity. I'm so grateful that I know how to be grateful. That's number one. Because you're depressed, you're down, help somebody first. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Because that will make all the fucking difference in the world. Because you will start to feel better about yourself. Learn to breathe and focus on what you have as opposed to what you don't have. Yeah. that's the most important thing that will get you through the hurdles to get you where you want to go. Yeah, I love that. Thank you again.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Always great to catch out with your brother. Good time. Yeah, so good. Let's go crush that workout tomorrow. Absolutely. 8.30, baby. Let's go meet with my friends. Man, what a great guy.
Starting point is 01:30:40 And I just love the joy that he has for life. Subscribe to DDP's YouTube channel so you don't miss out that DDP's YouTube channel so you don't miss out that DDP gauntlet workout that he put me through. That'll be coming out, I think pretty soon. And snap a screenshot. Let us know you're listening and tag us. He's at Real DDP on Twitter. He's at Diamond Dahl's page on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:31:00 I'm at Chris Van Fleet. And you heard it on this episode, but I'm going to wrap this up with that quote from Clint Eastwood. It's one that I know that I'll never forget. And I think that this is kind of what Diamond Dallas page keeps coming back to to keep that mentality to stay so, young. When the old man knocks, I don't let them in. I love that quote from Clint Eastwood so much. Be great. Be grateful, my friends. We will see you on the next one for
Starting point is 01:31:29 some more insight. We've got Ask CVV number 61 tomorrow. Send your questions in on Spotify. Leave a comment there. Shoot me an email, CVV at chrisfanfleet.com or leave it on social media with that hashtag Ask CVV. We'll see you right back here tomorrow for that one. Bang. Jim Rome takes on sports. Why? Because I have a job to do. With rapid fire takes. So I don't want to hear from you lava pigs on this notion today.
Starting point is 01:31:59 No idea what you're talking about. You're complaining more than you like to breathe air. It's like you get up in the morning only to complain and cry and moan on social media about things that you don't even understand. He's the spitfire of sports smack. Take advantage of it. Get up in here. The Jim Rome Show podcast. What should be. Follow and listen on your favorite.
Starting point is 01:32:17 platform. You've been warned.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.