Insight with Chris Van Vliet - Dolph Ziggler: "I'm jealous of Kofi", Bischoff hasn't started on Smackdown, Kevin Owens

Episode Date: July 23, 2019

Dolph Ziggler chats with Chris Van Vliet before Smackdown Live at the American Airlines Arena in Miami, FL. He talks about why he is jealous of Kofi and his Championship run, losing to Kevin Owens at Extreme Rules, Eric Bischoff taking over Smackdown, why he thinks he should be a 10-time champion and more! Audio equipment provided by Samson Technologies: bit.ly/CVVSamson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We had one that was broken up into two parts. So technically there's 18 interviews on YouTube that we've done together. But yeah, 17 interviews dating back to 2011. The first interview we did was WrestleMania Access, WrestleMania 27 Access in Atlanta. It's a super short interview. It's not nearly as in depth or involved as this one is or as these ones have been. But, you know, we talk so often, and it's like, how could you possibly have more things to say? This is our third interview we've already done this year, and it's just July.

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Samson Technologies. They hooked us up with this pro podcasting pack to make us sound so great. You can check out their stuff at samsontech.com. So we talk about a lot here with Dolph. He talks about his recent loss to Kevin Owens in 17 seconds at Extreme Rules. I asked him whether he thought that loss would help Owens or hurt Dolph more. He had an interesting answer there. He also said that Eric Bischoff hasn't officially started on Smackdown and he doesn't know when. He said he hasn't even seen Bischoff backstage.

So it's always a blast talking to DZ. And here we go. It's round 17 with Dahl Ziegler. It might be 17 interviews, 16 interviews. I wouldn't doubt that that is very accurate. Yeah. It's always good to see you though. It is great to be seen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have to ask. But it's like the novelty is worn off. I'm like, hey, what's up? Like, we know it's almost like, what is left? What stone is left to be unturned? Maybe for you.

I'm always super excited to see you. Oh, well, I'm really good at faking it, usually. Yeah. Oh, with seeing each other, yeah. No. Yeah. No, I just meant life. It's nice to see you here.

We're, you know, we're just miles from your adopted hometown. Yes. Of Hollywood, Florida. Yes. You're in the main event tonight. If you watch the show, This isn't like some, like lately the main event, I've been out there. Televised and non-televised, main event in the shows,

and flying by the seat of my pants and having a good time doing it. The last time I saw you, though, you were on your vacation. You were on your hiatus. How great was that? How great was it? That was all right. Three days in, I wanted to go back to work. So it was okay.

Luckily, I was very busy. I had a bunch of stand-up shows and some stuff to do in L.A., so I got to stay busy. But three, four days in, I went, I got to get out of here. How long were you planning to be out for? I was hoping for six months. Okay. Or ever.

That's not true. And then I was like, well, three months would be great. And a couple weeks in, I was asked and said, I go, I can't. I can't do it. So we got only with a little bit of a royal rumble in there. Yeah. We had a couple weeks, but then a solid maybe two and a half months, which is more time than I've had off in 14 years combined. But the Royal Rumble was in your backyard.

I happened to be in town for another booking. Yes, you told me this last time. It's so funny. Here's what's cool. A bunch of people don't know this. We set up a DZ and Friends show a couple blocks away from the arena. And of course, unbeknownst to me that I would be on that show, the Royal Rumble show, and in the main event of the show. So I couldn't even get over to my other booking until a little bit.

I think we started the show an hour late, but it was the cool thing about the, Desian Friends show is up on the screen. They showed everybody the Royal Rumble match, watched it end, and there was about a 13-minute window where I rolled out, jumped in a cold shower, and ran across. I almost came over in my gear, which would have been so great. But we weren't waiting for just me to run on the stage and do something. We had a couple people building up to it, so I had time to do a four-minute shower. You also needed the fans to get over there, too.

Also, everybody pouring out of there. I was walking in with a crowd of 50,000 people out of that baseball stadium, and a couple blocks over, and I was like trying to be nice. I'm like, hey, man, I'm 45 minutes late for my first job. This is the side job at the moment. And it was so funny, but it ended up being an awesome show because those paper views, not pay-views anymore. Those awesome huge events have so many fans come in from different states and countries

that is such a huge mix, and it was in my backyard, so I happened to be there. It was great. So you're saying that's your side job for now? Is comedy, you know, is the plan when you can't wrestle anymore for that to be your main thing? I don't know. I just want to be good at so many things. I say this all the time when I'm talking about all our WWB superstars that they're Renaissance men and women because you have to be able to go talk to kids in a school.

You have to be able to convince people on here that you're going to be the champion. You have to be able to talk stocks with different investors, go do commercials, do L.A. stuff, do crossover shows. And when you can do a little bit of everything, you can be put in a great spot. And I'm constantly put somewhere as a utility player, which I understand, but I know that still crushes my soul a little bit,

but it still happens. It's part, well, what's left? But it's like, it's what happens, but I want to be great at acting, wrestling, fighting for real, being able to go talk stocks and bonds, no politics on Fox News, go do something else, and be able to do stand-up comedy, do improv, and then I go, here's everything that I've done to make myself better.

If you can't help me, then maybe I need to be in a different line of work. What about the phrase, though, you know, Jack of All-Trades, Master of None, or you chase two chickens, you catch none, you know. But if you already caught three of them chasing two, you kind of know what the hell you're doing. Well, one, there was an egg and one. And then you have to figure out which came first. Oh, I got you.

Yeah, so that's a brain games and physical activity. Did you realize how much of a meme it should have been me turned into or what turned into? Oh, yeah. You know, it's, no, I just caught on eventually. And I know the doctors and lawyers of the W&W universe love to glom on to, to something that we say and make it into something, which is great, and I appreciate that to an extent. But all you have to do is have it apply.

So if someone goes, if it's The Bachelor, and he chooses some lady, and you can show the girl who didn't get chosen to go, it should have been me and put me, my face or something, that makes sense. But when it's just like, the Dodgers lost five to three today, and you go, it should have been me! And it's my face, like, that doesn't apply to the meme,

so you're ruining our garbage meme culture already, so double ruining it maybe makes it better. I don't know. It's right up there with, Give me what I want! And then, of course, Snitsky's, it wasn't my fault. It wasn't me. It wasn't me a Shaggy.

My bad. That's just Shaggy. Who I interviewed him recently? And he's like, just dives around here. It's saying it wasn't me the whole interview. I'm like, that's awesome, Shaggy. Like, thank you for getting it. Shaggy, live around here?

I don't think so. No. I pictured him. No. Just you living in Hollywood. Yeah. Well, Hollywood area. Yeah.

A little bit further north from here. You're the dog track. Yeah. And the Denny's. Coffey's storyline is actually very similar to your storyline, you know? Someone who is, you know, paying their dues for a long time and finally gets the payoff at the end. Yes. Why couldn't this be you?

How is that similar to mine? He got the payoff at the end. Oh, wow. I'm just kidding. I mean, this is the thing that you've had title runs. Yeah, sure. I have. I have, and I've said this all morning. I go, Cofy and I have joked around about having a best of 500 series for years. And it was a different time because United States title and the Intercontinental title, a bunch of times. Kofi and I had pay-per-view match after paper-bree and TV match,

Raw and Smackdown leading to a pay-per-view match with no talking. We rarely would talk about each other or have an extra layer to the story, or is there a reason we're fighting? It was just sometimes he won, once or twice I won, and then we go to the pay-per-view match. And even then we had such fun and chemistry, we had a counter, counter of counters, and now we actually have a real thing where I go,

I was explaining this earlier, I'm genuinely, I'm not lying when I say, I'm jealous that Kofi got this. He has everyone behind him. He has the locker room behind him. But then he went above and beyond to get that Kofi mania. A real life thing happened to where people in the back are cheering for like, I want to be champion. But man, I can't wait for Kofi to win.

This is great. And I was out at the time. After a while, you don't even notice it around here. I think it's like. Yeah, you don't even notice that. Yeah. No, but I was out and to get behind that and still be rooting for someone else, it's weird because we're all wanting.

ourselves to be the champion. This is a working set here where we're going here. That's how the ring gets built. Yeah. Stuff like that. Yeah. It's how the chicken gets made or the sausage. The egg and the chicken.

The egg and the chicken. What? Yeah. You love sausage, but you hate to see it get made. That's it right there. Yeah, that's the one. I want to ask you about your match with Kevin Owens last weekend. Does the loss in 17 seconds help him more or hurt you more?

I'm so hurt that the bleeding internally. internally doesn't even matter anymore. No, I think that helps him. And he was in a position the last couple weeks, I'm sorry, the last couple months, wasn't doing too much. He was just being Kevin Owens and being around. And I know whether a lot of people out there are rooting for me or against me or don't care, that's fine.

But to be part of a catalyst that sent him into a different direction, as much as it kills me, I was happy to be a part of it, and we could have done a 15-minute match, two-thirds of the way through that pay-per-view where people were exploding through walls and going through tables, and it would have been okay and fine.

That was a special moment for Kevin Owens, so I think that's better for the business and the company and the show. Have you thought about, I mean, you're the best at selling. You are. Hands down, you're the best at selling. Have you thought about selling the stunner, a la-the-rock selling Stone Cold Stunner?

there's something that in this day and age I love getting yelled at and I love ruining shows but I don't think that works now and so getting your head taken off in a stunner and getting I think the snap back or whatever crunches your chin

whatever a real life thing that would happen it's fun to go watch those back but in 2019 for Dolph Ziegler that doesn't help the show show. But you're so good at selling, though. So good. So good that I knew to make the choice to not do that. But honestly, that's actually a... I'm giving you a pretty realistic breakdown. I think that's funny. Yeah. Does that help Kevin Owens go on to, I don't know, fight somebody at Somerslam? No. Yeah. What do you, like, if someone's coming up in the industry right now and wants to sell like you,

what kind of advice do you have for them? Don't be too good at it. It'll kill you off for 15 years. No, I'm just kidding. Billy Gunn gave me that advice when I was in high school. Really? Yeah, he goes, don't be too good at your job, because then it'll, it gives you a job, but then, I don't know, there's something about it that it always puts you in a place, it always makes you a utility player, which is fantastic,

but if you have a chip on your shoulder, it crushes you, but it also makes you want to drive to be, I'm ready to go at all times. Well, we always have a spot for you, but it is not at the top. But also, there's 59 other guys who aren't. at the top who and 20 of them are sitting in catering. And you go, I'm very lucky to be here. I love doing what I'm doing. When my foot is in the door at all times, there's a chance for me

to be like, hey, we need someone to fight for the title tomorrow. And out of nowhere, it could be Dolph. And at least one time in that match, the entire arena is going to believe that he's going to win. And no one else in 20 years has lost as much as I have on TV and could actually pull it off and have

everyone believe. And that's the story and that's the reality of it, that there's a reason I'm still around. Every time your music hits, I'm like, yes, it's Doth's time. This is going to happen. Sorry. No. No, no, no. I, I'm excited. It's been a few months and years since I used to be super angry and go out there. And I would be like, follow that and throw a case of water when I came back through guerrilla knowing that like I should be the champ, but I'm not. But now I've gotten to a point where I know the deal. We all know the deal. It's going to be awesome when I'm out there. If it's 10 seconds, it's 10 seconds. If it's 30 minutes, I'm going to make it count.

And I really, I had a cage match with Kofi Kingston, which is one of my favorite stories that I've told in 10 years. The end of that match, I like that. That was fun. And you can only do that with Kofi. A group of us put it together because we had a couple different ideas of how to end a cage match. And we've seen them all before. And they're great. And they make noise.

And it's awesome. And it's fun. And everyone go, yeah. But I go, with Kofi, he's something special to where we forget that he can do this crazy athletic stuff. Even though we're locked in a cage and we're not really showing it off. because the story is getting out or us knowing each other so well. But to have him do something that no one else could practically do makes it that much more special, but also the story was there for it.

So that is how you win. That's how you tell stories without just flipping around. It feels like a new era as a fan here with Bischoff coming in for Smackdown, Haman coming in for Raw. When do they start? You tell me. I don't know. I haven't seen him. Well, Bischoff was on Raw last night.

Smackdown had a live event in Fort Myers. I was very busy in the main event, no big deal. Well, he was out as part of Raw reunion. Oh, so everybody was there. Okay. I don't know. Maybe today. I don't know.

I have no idea. I have not seen Bishop. Really? Yeah. So this might happen sometime in the future? It has to, right? When they announced it was happening? Smackdown is coming to Fox.

Yes. I think that that's the idea. Is that the day that he starts? I bet he starts before then. I don't know. You know? I'll check my email. Yeah, you let me know.

You have an email account? Wow. It's an AOL account. Big D, little Z. Yeah. It was made in 1989, but I just knew what my fake name would be one day. I tweeted out that I was going to interview you. Oh, sick.

You saw that. And then you started responding to all these people. We were in a little bit of Miami traffic in between appearances. So I was going to go, I'm going to answer these now and make you come up with some other questions. I wasn't actually going to answer or ask any of those questions. Fair enough. They were great questions, though. I believe you.

A lot of questions about the Cleveland Browns, though. Oh, great. I'm a fellow Browns fan. No, I was explaining to someone else. You're going to hold this in front of your face. Sorry, I was explaining to someone else that you and I, I know you're a Canada guy, but Cleveland was where we first started talking and Browns would always come up, anything Cleveland.

I'm a huge fan of Cleveland, the people, the teams, everything, and the fact that we hung around this long and we have the possibility of a winning season. Yes. It's pretty amazing. It's very exciting for all of Cleveland and anybody who is now starting to get behind the Browns, even if you're not a Cleveland guy, that's great. I mean, I lived in Cleveland for five years, so I'm a Browns fan, through and through. It's kind of sad, though, that an eight-and-eight season would be something we'd be like,

guys, eight and eight. We would trade the Cavs World Championship for 10 and six, I think. I think we would trade it. And maybe a wild card and maybe win it, maybe not. We would, the entire city of Cleveland would put it on the line, I think. It's so sad. But it's, but we've been, you know, we've been through the thick and thin, and now we're ready to start raking it in.

And we'll see what happens. Baker and O'Dall Beckham and Jarvis Landry, this is going to be good. I think it's going to be good no matter what, whether they go 16 and 0 or 8 and 8 or whatever. I think the team is, uh, is going to have all of Cleveland behind them and it's going to be so much more fun. We've had to sit through a lot of Sundays where you're excited until that game starts and it's 14 to 3, 10 minutes in. go, it's already over and your Sunday's room. You've got to go to work on Monday.

I'm more fascinated with everyone who comes to tailgate. Yes. And then one o'clock when the game starts, they pack up the truck and they drop. Yeah, at home, the beers aren't 1550 apiece, that's for sure. That's true. I mean, I've heard. You mentioned Billy Gunn giving you some advice. Who's been the person that's kind of giving you the best advice throughout your

WWE career? I've gotten a lot from Pat Patterson, who has really, really been behind me a bunch since I want to say eight or nine years, maybe longer. Arne Anderson has given me some great stuff that slips through the cracks a bunch. Even John Laurinitis behind the scenes stuff has given me. We're very lucky to have a lot of people here. A friend of mine, T.J. Wilson. Yeah. Tyson Kid.

Tyson Kid is not only behind the scenes helping, knows everything there is to know about wrestling. And someone will go, hey, what did you do at, I don't know, slam anniversary 2001. And Tidjib like, well, actually, you fought Del Rio. And you're like, whoa, what?

Wow. So he knows that. And he has like that, like how Randy Orton has it. It's like in his body and in his makeup to know what to do, to know psychology, to know what works and what doesn't. And you mix that in with like maybe

Seth Rollins and myself wanted to outdo each other. And you mix him in the mix. It makes it a match that will steal the show no matter what the situation. So having him working with all of us is, it's a real gift for everybody. Is he, is Tyson the one who's producing your matches these days? Sometimes, yes, sometimes, no. When I was doing some stuff with Seth a couple months ago, we almost exclusively had him, which is great.

I don't think people realize how important that is to your match and the storytelling in your match. Yeah, we're lucky to have a lot of people who are legends, Hall of Famers, whatever, and there's always something to be had from them. But, you know, even like last night, IRS was helping me with something backstage. And you're like, oh, why didn't I think of that? And I'm someone who's cocky enough? I'm learning something every day. But I love being like, dude, who's better than me?

Who's going to tell me what to do? I hear this is my match. And then IRS says something afterwards. And you go, oh, God, so there's always something to learn from those guys, no matter who they are. And it is a huge difference to have that in between to where Vince creates this show and you have an in-between that helps you go, here's what we're going. And here's what we'd like to do. and you go, here's my take on it, and you put it together.

And when you have all those voices going in, usually you come out with an awesome product. Well, I mean, you've been in here for 15 years. Is there someone that you still haven't worked with? Or maybe you had a short program with them, and you'd like to do that over again? Man, I don't know. You've really done it all.

I would like to do something long-term with AJ. Because he, we got to do a couple different things. A couple of live events, a couple shows, to where him and I just said at the beginning, We're just going to go amateur wrestle at the beginning. So we just got to, like, roll around and put some cradles in and kind of lock each, test each other out and feel it out, much like how you would 30 years ago when you were in separate locker rooms

and you just go feel somebody out and see if they can go. And even when I was called up the first time as the caddy, I didn't know Chavo Guerrero, and he, like, he goes, you're an amateur wrestler, getting the ring, and it rolled around. Just to see, like, if I could go or protect myself or be there, you know, with them. And it's kind of a cool thing that not everyone here can do. So it's fun when you have things like that. Did you actually know anything about golf when you were the caddy?

Oh my God, nothing. So my whole life, I played every sport there is. All of them. I mean, soccer didn't really count then. I'm sorry. But I played everything there was, and I get called up as a guy who helps golfers and a cheerleader. I go, it's almost like that was the only two things left that involved sports in some extent that I had nothing to do. Like, astronaut would have been the only other one.

But at least I knew what the outfits were, you know, or something. And I played everything. And I was so crushed to do that. But it made the chip of my shoulder bigger because I go, I have to prove everyone that I'm good at wrestling too now because I was in these jokey things. Now I have to prove myself. I went from like two years of having Nikki Chance to like years of having Nikki Chance. But you have to overcome those things.

It made me better. So I was telling someone earlier today, if I was like 6'5 and a 10 time world champion, maybe I'd be phoning it in for real other than just saying I am because, oh, I'm going to be the champion anyway. Why do I care? This makes me want to go, I'm going to out. do you tonight no matter what spot I'm in. You famously said to me in an interview like six years ago that if you were six inches taller and weighed 30 pounds more, you'd be the five-time champion.

And back then five, probably 10 now. Yeah, but also I don't know that I would care as much. I might be like, oh, I'm going to be fine either way. So I'll just see you guys at work instead of sitting at home and watching a movie and going, oh, the way that guy got shot in the thigh, I can make that work when someone kicks me in the stomach like and tie that in every time. I can't not do it. So that's the part where you're always learning, too.

It's not just wrestling stuff. It's someone getting knocked out in a boxing match who fell through the ropes. We never see that. Maybe that should be happening sometime in a knockout. Wow. So you're constantly trying to be different and better than everybody else in a positive way. That's amazing that you're taking things from other elements and bringing it to wrestling. Well, you'd certainly do that with rock music.

You do. Certainly. Certainly. Certainly. Yeah. Yeah, I guess rock music kind of counts. My pants always have some kind of cool motley crew. tone to them or whenever I can.

I'm going to see a Motley crew and ACDC cover band this week at Joe's Grotto. No big deal. What's your go-to karaoke song? I don't know that I have one, but if I did, every once in a while I think about one that I would have. But I'd also want people to sing along because after a minute, you lose the novelty of having it and you're like, oh, we're all going to do four and a half minutes.

Plus the interlude is like, no, no, no. Give me a minute and keep everyone rocking and then like cut it loose. I think what happens is people hear that's a sign They go, oh, that'll be good. Sweet, Caroline, great. Oh, there's seven more minutes. Like, ah, this was fun. Or they'll go, let's see how good this guy is.

Right. Oh, that third chorus, he's not really, he's kind of losing it now and he lost the crowd. Like, you just want to have like, nothing but a good time by poison. And they're like, nothing but a good time. Like, yeah, right guys? And then you walk up the stage and then just go, always leave him want more old Hollywood trick.

That's great. Always. That's a wrestling trick, too, though. That's why I did a 17 second. match last week. Always want them leaving more. Or leave them wanting more. Either way you want to word it.

I said it wrong. Yep, definitely. But I appreciate it. You set me up to say it right to camera. I'm playing that. I wrote it down on my cards. Like Laurel and Hardy. Yep.

I wrote it down. There it is right there. Yeah. Wow. Yep. Huh. Huh. See it?

Hey. Cash residual check for much music. What's that? Congrats. See the cash residuals I get. Yeah. A couple of tunis coming your way? Wow, great Canadian joke there, Dolph Sinclair.

I'm getting ready for my big Toronto show, DZ and Friends, the night before SummerSlam. No big deal. After NXT, at the rec room, SummerSlam Eve, DZ and Friends, there's always tons of surprise guests, comedians, skits, and a couple of super kicks. Rec room's a great venue, too. I've never been there. I'm very excited for it. Last interview we talked about, I mentioned my girlfriend and referred to her as the current girl. And then I referred to her as that, I believe.

Yeah, I got a lot of flack for that. I know. Sorry. I feel like that was all a good fun. Hi, honey. So whoever this one is, too, seems very nice. Oh, wow. She's here.

So we were having some good fun, and clearly that was fun. But you're allowed to get flak. Tell everyone to chill out a little bit. You can tell them that. Everybody chill out. Current girl is great. Yeah, she's great. And she's still the current girl, which is pretty, that's better.

The longest relationship I can think of was probably, like, however long a lap dances. So I can't think of anything that long. Congratulations. You pick longer songs is what I'm guessing. Yeah, you'd always go with something really long. You know, like a maggot brain or something like 20 minutes long. Something, anything by Zeppelin, that's how you get. Do the bank for your buck.

20 bucks cash plus tip? Come on, I'm getting eight minutes. You also tweeted that 2025 you're going to be done with wrestling. I thought that was a great joke. Well, let's see. Technically, I'd be inaugurated in 2020. Oh, yeah, you're being the president. Three.

I forgot who you were running for president. Yeah. Yeah, so I mean, 2025. Yeah, I just, I mean, I just signed an 11-year deal, 11-year three-month deal. like you probably heard about last week. Of course. And so 2025, I'm going to ask for a little time off just to do a little bit of running and hopefully a big contribution

from the big man upstairs. Yeah. God? Oh, Vince. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. What was the,

it was leave them wanting more. Always leave them wanting more. They even made a Seinfeld episode about it to where George gets a laugh and goes, that's it for me and he leaves. Like, yeah. It's true. We'll do that right now. All right.

That's it for us. Yeah. Well, that's it. Thanks for tuning in with Chris. Fanfleet and Dolph Ziegler. I hope you got some good stuff today. And even if you didn't,

it was free. So, you know. That's it. Thank you. That's it for us. Well, there you have it. Another great chat with Dolphin Ziggles. It's always great to see him.

I don't know if he's okay with me calling him that. But, hey, I just did anyway. I don't disagree with him that if he was six inches taller when he broke in, you know, he's been in the WWE now for 15 years. If he was six foot four and, you know, 260 pounds, he probably would be a 10-time champion, although he has the skill to be a 10-time champion, and things are changing a lot. Now it's a different time. Maybe he will get another title run. He certainly deserves another title run before he goes into all of his other careers and all of the

other chickens he's catching. Thanks to Green Roads. Use the code Chris 15 to get 15% off at greenroadsworld.com. Also, thank you to Samson Technologies for making us sound so good on the podcast, as we officially turn one month old tomorrow. The YouTube videos, they're going to continue. But the podcast, well, they're going to continue too, but it's been so cool being able to do both and being able to amalgamate the two. Well, you know what I mean.

It's the same audio, different places. I'm loving it, though. If you're listening to this right now, please take a screenshot and let me know you're part of the conversation. Take a screenshot, tag me on Twitter or Instagram or even Facebook. If you're still using Facebook, do people still use Facebook? I don't know, you tell me. You can also tell me on Twitter and Instagram

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