Insight with Chris Van Vliet - Freedom Fight Night CEO & Founder Harrison Rogers - Team Tito Ortiz vs. Team Ryan Bader

Episode Date: July 15, 2022

Harrison Rogers (@harrisonjrogers) is the CEO and Founder of Freedom Fight Night. He joins Chris Van Vliet to talk about the next event with Team Tito Ortiz vs. Team Ryan Bader on July 15 in Mesa, AZ. He also talks about why he started Freedom Fight Night, his love of MMA, the biggest lessons he has learned as an entrepreneur and much more! For more information on Freedom Fight Night visit: http://freedomfightnight.com Use the code CVV to get 40% off your Magic Mind subscription at: https://www.magicmind.co/cvv Create a beautiful website for your podcast is just 5 minutes: https://www.podpage.com/?via=cvv If you enjoyed this episode, could I ask you to please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcast/iTunes? It takes less than a minute and makes a huge difference in helping to spread the word about the show and also to convince some hard-to-get guests. For more information about Chris and INSIGHT go to: https://podcast.chrisvanvliet.com Follow CVV on social media:  Instagram: instagram.com/ChrisVanVliet Twitter: twitter.com/ChrisVanVliet Facebook: facebook.com/ChrisVanVliet YouTube: youtube.com/ChrisVanVliet TikTok: tiktok.com/@Chris.VanVliet Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

All systems are going. Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Van Blit! What is going on, my friends? Welcome to another audio adventure on Insight. I'm CVV, Chris Van Fleet. So good to see you here on Friday as we record this. Hope it's been an amazing week for you. In the last few weeks, if you've been listening to the episodes,

we've had some incredible guests, some UFC legends on the show. Frank Meir and Tito Ortiz in the last two weeks. They're both part of Freedom Fight Night, which is live tonight, July 15th in Mesa, Arizona. And my guest on today's show is Harrison Roger, who's the founder and CEO of Freedom Fight Night, along with a bunch of other businesses that he found it. You can get tickets, by the way, for Freedom Fight Night or stream the fight live at freedomfightnight.com. And I had a lot of people ask about yesterday's episode and that little drink that I mentioned

that helps with focus and energy and cognition. It's called Magic Mind. You can get 40% off your first subscription by going to Magicmind.co slash CVV and use that code CVV for 40% off your first subscription. All right, cue up that transition sound effect. Ladies and gentlemen, Harrison Rogers. Harrison, thank you so much for joining us.

Thank you so much for having me. This is fun to actually be in studio. I feel like I've been doing a lot of podcast interviews, but virtually. And it's, uh, like we already hitting mics and stuff. I know what to do. Yeah. I mean, there's this cough button.

I didn't know. You can try it if you want. That's like a radio station thing. Wow. Hey. Yeah. Protects the listener from the, the grunters.

Well, that, that's like a thing in radio where like you're listening, you're listening, then you can clear your throat and do that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to,

I'm going to get good at it. Watch. Thank you for coming into town for this. Yes. No, any excuse to get to Vegas. I mean, it is pretty good. Yes.

You know, the wife usually wants to always come. I'm like, hey, this one's for work. I promise. You know, you're not missing out on much. And the wind hotels, I mean, it's a pretty good spot. Yes. I mean, I don't know if the cameras are able to see it, but there's, we're able to see some cool. They can all see in here.

Yeah. Yeah. It's fun. People walk by and wonder who's important in there talking. Well, we just interviewed Frank Mirr, and people were like taking pictures and like looking. I know it was right behind Frank's head so he couldn't see this was happening. I am. There's lots of people. I know it's more distracting for you than for your guests.

Well, I'm like, this is why I sit here so I can be laser focused on you. Because if the guest sees that, they might be like, oh, what's going on out there? Yeah, exactly. You probably have less ADD than your guests. I would be like distracting. Arizona's home for you, right? Yeah. So, you know, it's 100 plus degrees out here today.

And you're like, that's just a normal day. Yeah. No, I could even wear, I can even wear that little blazer. Oh, you're like 100. That's it? Yeah. That's all you got? barely three digits.

Yeah, we're surviving now. Yeah. So which city are you in? Right outside at Phoenix is East Valley, Mesa is where I'm from, and that's actually where we're having our first freedom fight night in Arizona. We had our first freedom fight night in Miami, and it was a blast. You know, we had a great turnout, but it was a little frustrating because so many of my family and friends were like, why did you do it across the country for your first one, you know?

And so we're bringing it home. And this is a big thing to take on. Like you're now a fight promoter. It's weird. That's a lot. So where did, let's take it back. And then we'll get into your story. But take it back.

Like what's the idea behind now a promoter? I know. It evolved into, and it's still evolving. I'm excited for you to hear some even more evolution with Frank. But, you know, it started out is just trying to figure out how to be involved in politics without being another politico, fundraiser establishment guy and being in the private sector and one of my

personal passions is MMA. Obviously, I'm not a fighter, but seeing that so much of our audience in the MMA world wants to be involved in politics, at least support what their frustrations are, but they don't even know where to begin. And so finding a way to have a fun

fundraiser that like Frank was mentioned, in your guys's interview, the culture war, it seems like MMA is the only sport so far that hasn't fallen to the woke movement. And so let's start with what we got and see if we can bleed over into the NBA and into the NFL when athletes are able to feel safe from getting canceled because they see other celebrity athletes do it in the MMA world. But in the meantime, let's have a good time promoting fights. This is one of those things where it's like, you know, the the topics you don't talk about at Thanksgiving. And I feel like this kind of falls into that category of like as soon as you start bringing politics

into sports, people go, come on, man. I just want to, I just want to watch my game. Exactly. Unless you're willing to knee for the flag or you're willing to talk about how terrible America is, it seems like you're not allowed to talk about politics. Yeah, that is, it is an interesting thing. We're like, you don't talk about politics. Unless.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you had some big names at Freedom Fight Night 1. Yeah. I mean, incredibly surreal, you know, growing up watching these, these legends like Frank Mir, Tito Ortiz, Rampage Jackson, Evander Holyfield came. And it's just like, how did this happen? How did I get here? You know, how did this happen?

I mean, for real, how did this happen? Yeah, I guess I'll say how we got there. Yeah. I, you know, grew up talking about school previously, talking to all these things. I sucked at formal education. I actually dropped out of high school my junior year to start my first business. Wow. Hold on.

What was the business? A carpet cleaning business. So you must have already been cleaning some carpets or something. No way. I know. Definitely kind of fell into place with an uncle who was kind of dabbling in the carpet cleaning business world. But having his unit stolen. and whatnot, he was just like,

yeah, you know, how about, and then I said, hey, what if I pay to have the insurance deductible, you know, let's get a replace and I'll just grow it. And over that summer to my junior year, things got busy enough to say,

I could either sit in a formal high school class and not succeed, like I've been doing these last many years, or I can pursue this carpet cleaning business. and continue to grow it and make some money and just get my GED because if I'm going to go to college, you know, it's going to have to be a community college and I'm going to have to pay for it. So the difference between a GED and a diploma is nothing in that path. So chose that path, grew the carpet thing business enough to be exciting and rest. I almost said the rest is history,

but you don't know the rest of the history. So there must have been so many people in your life going, Harrison, what are you doing? Oh, yeah. You've got at least, at the very least, finish high school. Right. Wait, where you were 16? Yeah, barely old enough to get a driving van to, you know, the carpet cleaning vans are trucks. And so I'm like, hey, I can at least do this and drive around an expensive equipment. Man, so carpet cleaning to what?

What was the next business after that? I was actually going on a church mission. I wasn't planning on going on a church mission for the LBS church. So from 17 to 19 was growing it. And the only value it had was a contract with a home builder at the time to do their new homes, to do their model homes and whatnot. And so, you know, I decided, all right, I will go on a church mission because at least in my neighborhood where to get married, you either need to have a college degree or you return missionary. and I didn't have the first. So I was probably go on a mission.

And so I sold my carpet cleaning business to go on the mission. And this was in 2007. So luckily I sold it right before the market, you know, crashed because then that contract is worth nothing. That home builder went out of business. The problem is, is I parlayed those proceeds into real estate. So kind of whatever. I came back early from my mission. I had a heart attack at 19.

Yeah, what? The birth defect that I never knew about. No way. Came at me with a vengeance when I was 19, and so wasn't able to finish the mission. Came back after four months being out there and didn't have any money because it was all crashed at that point. And no business anymore.

So I had to start from scratch. Wow. So what did scratch look like for you? The scratch was getting married. I met my wife right when I got. back and she wasn't as requiring of me to finish the mission. She actually was kind of like, hey, I don't want to wait for somebody. I'm not going to wait for you. I'm going to keep dating. And that was enough for me to say, okay, let's keep dating and get married. So when you're married,

you can actually qualify for more student loans or credit cards or different financial lending. So it was a business move. It was a business food. Yes. I was able to max out different credit cards now being married and doing different things. And so I took as much student loans that she could get because she actually had the high school diploma and enrolled in the cheapest online college that we could find because then you can max out hell grants, student loans. You know, and I'll do her class work for her because she's like, I don't want to do this. And so we did that and we were able to, you know, after paying the tuition costs,

everything for books, whatever, we had about $6,000 in loans that I then just started trading a currency for X market. I got really good at predicting what political announcements would do to a country's currency and was able to, you know, speculate the American dollar versus against the euro or, you know, So I really did a lot with the Euro dollar pair. And during that time, the Euro was tanking because Spain was looking to go bankrupt and was Germany going to bail them out or not? You know, the Euro was going. So against the U.S.

dollar at the time, I made a good amount of money and just started really loving the market speculating and making good money doing it. That during that time, I said, hey, if I have a. have extra time and money, I want to do what I've always said I was going to do, which was help my sister and mom and dad who, I have an older sister with severe autism growing up, kind of being her punching bag. I saw that there was a lot of need for more services for individuals with special needs and mental health and whatnot. So I got a contract with the state of Arizona to provide these services because I didn't have to live off of the proceeds of government, contracts, which is very thin margin, we grew like crazy.

You know, and being able to pay providers and employees a good wage, when you get into government contracts and whatnot, you don't get the best of the best. You know, you kind of get the bare minimum people who are clock punchers and don't really have, I wanted therapies for individuals like my sister to be with people who aren't just punching the clock who aren't smoking on breaks and having these gauges and you know who parents are like hey i don't want to leave my kid with this smoke and i'll take care of your kid and i'm not saying this in a derogatory way it just seems like that had been kind of the norm for employees in the government funded world and so when parents were seeing that we had clean equipment clean facilities

clean providers, we just blew up. And now we have over, you know, eight locations in Arizona for private schools. We have campuses for private schools with students, for students with autism. We have multiple clinics for outpatient therapies like speech and occupational therapy, ABA therapy. We do a lot with mental and behavioral health coaching and independent living facilities. So that wasn't what I meant was thinking would be such a big business in my portfolio. but it's been very much the engine that I've been able to grow other ancillary businesses like commercial real estate. I have a brokerage that buys all the commercial real estate for these outpatient clinics

and these school campuses. And when you're able to lease to your own private operating companies, you're able to add value to commercial real estate like crazy. So then you can just kind of rinse and repeat. And I don't know if you ever heard of the Burr method, but it really is. good with commercial real estate where you buy, renovate, rent,

refinance and repeat. I'm trying to remember all the ours. Makes sense. Yeah. And so, you know, do that across 400 million dollars worth of commercial real estate and you're getting into

some good, good living. Yeah. Sorry about that. I don't know if the cameras are all. Is the goal still to buy the Phoenix Suns? Yes. Well, it was up until 2020.

you know, I wanted to be the Mark Cuban and own the Phoenix Suns, but I was going to be 35, which right now is in a year, because he bought them when he was 42, I believe, the Dallas Mavericks. Yep. I was like, I'm going to beat that guy. But 2020, you know, having businesses in so many different industries, I had front row tickets to see the ridiculous government overreach of the, you know, pandemic. It was like, wait, I thought I lived in America, but government can come in and decide who's essential or not, decide who needs to get shut down or not. It always seemed like, you know, of course, the big business with the big lobbyists and special interest groups, they were the ones that were able to operate as normal and actually get subsidized funding from the government. But your neighbor who is a third generation restaurant owner worked their whole lives with this restaurant.

if they're shut down and they lose everything, I was like, this can't be right, you know, but I was so, I mean, I'm a high school dropout. I knew nothing about government.

I knew nothing of, of even how to begin to hold my representatives accountable. And so many of my business owner colleagues felt the same way. They're like, I've never trusted, um, the establishment to donate to anything. We've never donated to anything political in our lives.

We never talked about it. But we need to start now. We can't, obviously we've learned that, So leaving politics to the politicians is no longer a luxury that we've thought we could. And so I ventured out and I said, you know what, I'm in a little bit of a better position than some of my business colleagues to replace myself with an operator and learn this whole political activist, you know, the PAC world. We started a super PAC called Fight for Freedom and figure out how we could start holding these representatives accountable. And money, of course, definitely does that.

And so doing fundraisers and doing these big things where we could be influential and move the needle during campaigns really can play a big role in holding our representatives accountable. And so that's what Freedom Fight Night is, is a big fundraiser for our PAC. to hold these. It doesn't have to be right wing. It doesn't have to be, I mean, it's definitely not left wing, but it's pro freedom.

We could talk about social issues and different, you know, problems that we do need to talk about working together on, but we can't do that until we have freedom. And freedom of speech, it seems like between government

and big tech right now, our First Amendment is under so much assault that we can't, you know, whatever happened to the days of, I disagree with what you're saying. I actually hate what you're saying, but I'll fight to death,

to the death for you to be able to say it. It's, you know, it's, oh, now it offends me. So I'm going to do everything I can to censor you. You know,

we can't get anywhere with that. So in a perfect world, who's the person that you want to be involved in, Freedom Fight Island? Who is, who would be the dream person? Well, Frank Meir has been an incredible partner,

you know, not only because he knows so much of the MMA world, he's able to, he's, he's our host and commentator. for our fight nights because he can just so many people who don't know MMA are able to listen to him and he's able to articulate. He's like an encyclopedia of all these moves. So people are learning MMA while they're listening to him, but he's also so articulate and knowledgeable in the political world that he couldn't be a better partner.

But right now, I'm thinking not only just for the political stuff, I would love to have like a Joe Rogan or a Elon, Musk somehow be supportive of this because I love what they do. They have been so good at not pigeonholing themselves to a party. Like, hey, we actually are a lot more liberal than what you guys are making us sound like. But it seems like the left liberals have gone so far left that they look like they're rightly. And I want that to be shown like, hey, I'm probably more liberal on a lot of more social issues than some of my party is and we need to get back there where people can disagree on so many things, but we need to agree that government's not the solution. Government is usually the problem,

and we need to lower and limit the power that we have been giving the government in the name of emergency, in the name of security, safety, whatever it is. We'll never get those back. The government has shown that they don't give power back after emergencies that they've taken it. It's very strange for me to look at this as a Canadian growing up in Canada where there are multiple political parties that you can vote for in every election. And I feel like here it's you're either on the red team or you're on the blue team. And if you're on the red team, then you must tick all these boxes. And if you're on the blue team, you tick these boxes. That just seems like there should be somewhere in the middle.

I don't know. Agreed. And I mean, so many of our founding fathers, like I said, I didn't know anything about politics up until 2020 when I just jumped in the deep end. And now I feel like I'm a history buff and I feel like I've, but I know enough to get me in trouble and sound like an idiot because I'm probably going to miss quote or give credit to the wrong founding father. But, you know, one of them said there's nothing more dangerous than a two-party system because quickly does that two-party become a unit party. And it seems like so much of that is going on right now where the Republicans, the establishment, is just as at fault as the left. And so we need to, whether it's a third party, a fourth party, whatever it is, we need to have healthy options to choose from. And so many of my colleagues are saying, you know, I definitely don't agree with what the left is doing and representing right now.

but the right hasn't really been showing that they're my voice. You could have voted for Kanye. Right. I mean, that was an option. Well, right now he would have been a much better. Well, who's to say? Who knows? Oh, man.

With the businesses that you've built, who really inspires you? In the business world, ironically, initially it was Mark Cuban. And unfortunately, politics changes a little bit of. So you don't want to own. an NBA team anymore. I do. I just need to put it on the back burner because what's the point of owning a major franchise if we're a communist country? I know that sounds very extreme, but got to protect that first. Okay. Same with all the other sports. You don't want to own another sports franchise? You know, I'm not man enough to be the sports guy in all different sports categories. So I don't follow enough football. I love watching the Cardinals. when they're good. Arizona, it's tough to be a sports fan.

But I've just grown up always loving the Phoenix Suns and knowing that I'd never be able to be good enough to play for them, I thought owning it would be the next best thing. Right. So Freedom Fight Night 2. Who were the big stars

that we're going to see there? You know, we're working on a pretty monster card. The first fight night, the names were very much the coaches, the captains, T.O.T's and and Rampage Jackson. And it's awesome to have that team feel. And Freedom Fight Night is actually going to release a big change starting in 2023 that is not going to be just for politics.

We're hoping to change MMA world as far as the team aspect goes. But this card, we want to be much more of the fighters. even though Tito Ortiz and Ryan Bader are the captains of these teams, we have a lot of talent in Arizona that our card is going to consist of actual, I mean, if you watch the fights from Freedom Fight Night 1, our minds were blown. We were not expecting that much talent to be such exciting fights. But now we are kind of trying to duplicate that with known talent,

to come on these cards. So we're releasing our fight card this coming week next week. And so I think you guys will be excited

to see who's on it. Tito Ortiz and Ryan Bader are kind of like the captains, the coaches? Is that what we call it? Yes. Wow.

And they both have incredible camps that they are choosing from for a lot of their fighters to be their who they're captain of. Sure.

And so we're evolving every single freedom fight night, it seems like we're building something new each time that it's getting exciting to start releasing these evolutions, these new news to everybody. So stay tuned. As an MMA fan yourself, what's your favorite fight of all time? Oh, I mean, just because of what it did for the sport. I think the, you know, Boris Griffin, Stefan Bonner,

kind of is everybody's... As soon as you said it for what he did for the sport, I'm like, I know exactly where you're going with us. Yes. I wish I was, I was more of an OG that I can say something before then where, you know, listening to, I don't know if you listened to the Joe Rogan B.J. Penn episode

that they just had. They were naming these fights that I never even heard of. Like, I don't even know who they are. Those guys together, like their MMA knowledge is, or their fighting knowledge is just, off the charge. Ridiculous. And so I'm the one

that has to say, as a sick of fan or whatever you want to call me, as a wannabe, the Stefan Bonner Forrest Griffin fight was my... Well, Stephen Bonner sat right there and he had the exact same answer.

Hey! If you can believe that. How weird would that be to say that the best fight and so many other people can say that the best fight was your own? I mean, but it's such a good point.

What that did for the sport? Put it on the map. I mean, I feel like everybody has their first introduction to UFC. And for me, it was going to Blockbuster. And it was renting the actual VHS.

Yes. And this is like the late 90s. I remember renting. Oh, wow. That is nostalgic. I remember renting USC one, two, three and like going from there. Was that renting it though after seeing the. Years later. Oh, no, no, no.

The Steffinwater? No, no. I started, I was a UFC fan like the late nine. Oh, well, good. You're more of a man than I am. No, not at all. I remember my friend being like, you got to see. the sport.

There's this big like 500 pound guy and he's fighting like 180 pound guy and I'm like, say less. Yeah. I'm in. Yes. And we went to Blockbuster immediately. Well, those hoist Gracie days when there's like, beat everyone.

Yeah, that poor guy's going to get destroyed. Wait, what? He just broke way. What? Oh, and he's not even letting go. The guy's going to die. Referee, get him off. And then I saw Ken Shamrock and I'm like, that guy's jacked.

And then he became a WWE wrestler and I was a huge WWE fan. So I was like, well, this, I mean, it's all the world's kind of combining here. Totally. And it's crazy now. It's a different world. I mean, like, if I was 16, 14 again when I first was getting introduced to it, it's like the people who are 16 now getting introduced to it. Oh, yeah, it's different sport. It's so different.

Yeah. And it's kind of sad because they take for granted what it wasn't very recently ago. And I think that people don't realize how young the sport is. Exactly. Like 30-ish, you know, not even, 30 years in is like the leather helmet era for the NFL. It's kind of scary to think, too, of what is our culture is going to find as entertaining here pretty soon. I'm almost like getting a conspiracy theory or worried about, you know, when I was 16, 17, 17, that was almost like, you know, the undercover back, you know, the basement fighting, you know, this stuff was illegal. a little bit ago, you know, Dana White luckily made this actually seem more mainstream and more legal.

But that used to be just like the most violent, most hard to watch thing. But nowadays, it's almost some fights are kind of a snooze fest. And it's like, wait, in a very, sorry about that, in a very short amount of time, we went from barbaric, impossible to even regulate sanction, let alone be on TV. to now people are being like, eh, next. You know, what do we got to do, throwing weapons now? Are we,

our, the bar just keeps getting raised, right? And the standard just keeps changing. It's terrifying. It is. Like, it's in all aspects of life, I feel like,

but it is amazing that a fight that was an amazing fight, 15, 20 years ago, now knowing what the fighters know now, might not be nearly as excited. Right. I mean, people, at first, when people would boo,

when it wasn't very excited, like when you're in the stand in the audience, you'd be like, oh, they're just not, you know, they don't understand the sport. They don't understand the chess match game,

you know, that they're very much, there's always action. But now people are booing, not because they're ignorant and they don't understand, but because they're bored, they've seen, you know,

it's weird. It is weird. I remember Joe Rogan commenting, like someone was in garden and got some other sort of position, and he's like, wow, the crowd is cheering. They,

they understand it. I thought that was very interesting that the crowd is getting more educated. Yeah. Especially with what you're doing. Like, they're seeing people coming up,

which is also really cool. Yeah, exactly. I mean, who would have thought, man, I can't remember the twins names right now.

But they're a judo phenomena. Like they're, they're, it's kind of like people are now able to see a high school basketball player and be like, oh,

that's the next LeBron. Yep. That would never have been the case with MMA, but now people are like, oh, that's going to be the next Anderson Silva. That's going to be the next, you know, the style bender and all these things. It's, it's amazing. And you can't get in street fights anymore ever because you have no idea who on the street is going to be. Seriously. Yeah.

It's fun. So if people want to come to Freedom Fight Night 2, it's in Mesa, July 15th, our tickets still available? You know, we are trying to figure out if we might need to go. go into a bigger part of this, like I said, we have a great relationship with this new facility. Yeah, because people are coming from all over saying,

we love what you're doing, not only because of the political side, obviously the proceeds go to great causes, like fighting mandates and whatnot, but we are getting a lot of big names to come and support and our fighters keep showing up to put on great fights that we might not have to be as little as we've thought we needed to be.

for a while. Oh, wow. If they can't come and see it in person. We have the pay-per-view option. So people go to freedomfightnight.com. You'll be able to see a little bit of what happened in the first event, and you'll see a lot of what's happening in the second event, but then even more excitingly what it's going to be in the third, fourth, fifth, sixth event.

Or do you already have plans for? Oh, yeah. I know. You're eyes like lit up there. Well, like I said, I want to do a disclaimer that nothing is set. in Stone yet. But in October, which would be our third,

our Freedom Fight Night 3, Tito wants to do his final MMA career fight on the Freedom Fight Night card. Wow. And so if that's in October. And is that like a sanction, like pro fight?

Like that'd be on his record? Yep. It would be his final kind of walkout gloves, you know, leaving the cage type thing. Hopefully it's a, hopefully it's a Peyton Manning,

you know, leaving on a Super Bowl win. but it's it's just surreal like I said you know growing up and and having these legends like frank mere and Tito Ortiz to show what real men look like now to be on a on a card that I'm promoting that I never plan to be in that type of world ever I mean so maybe maybe forget the NBA franchise maybe just start my own uh MMA franchise wow this is this is evolving go after Dana White or David Feldman here right wow it's it's fun What you're doing sounds like a lot of fun.

I want to be there. I want to go to the next one. Hey, you better be. I'll make sure that it's something that you are grateful that you went to in three or four years when you see what it's going to be like then. I read that your very first job was you in a pig costume. Where did you? Yes, that is hilarious.

Everything's on the internet. That's true. Good point. What was the name of the restaurant? Waldo's barbecue. Shout out to the best barbecue joint in, in Arizona. So you would stand outside and wave to the cars? 120 degree heat, you know, dry, you're wearing this little oven.

Because, you know, but when you're, when you're 14, 15, maybe even 13 and you can't get a job anywhere else, you know, you're just like, wait, I can get paid $8 to $10 an hour. Awesome. Let's do this. You get a discount on the barbecue too? Oh, yeah. No, you'd be able to go on the back and whether or not they. So if you were working, you got a meal for free. Yeah, so that was worth it by itself.

I mean, sure. The barbecue. What's the best menu item there? I get the cluck for more. It's a chicken sandwich, but it's the barbecue sauce that makes it. It makes it insane. Luck for more. Cluck for more.

Okay. Yeah. Most people are like, you got to go for the ribs. I know. Like, old pork. If you're a man, you would talk about the brisket and, you know, if you know your meats, you talk about, oh, they're, I'm. I love chicken. I love chicken.

Just get the cluck for more and douse it in the barque. barbecue sauce. What do you think you learned from that very first job? Gosh. There's got to be a lot of lessons. Yeah. I learned definitely street heat stroke and things to make sure that you do to protect your employees as a business owner now. I'm like, I wouldn't never have let somebody do that, especially with the cancel culture and how much goes on the internet. You know, if you have a 14 year old pass out in the street and bake for a half hour, There's also got to be a lesson of like perseverance or like moving on like figuring things out. Delayed gratification.

Oh, there it is. Yeah. Being able to know that, oh my gosh, this sucks so bad. At the end of this shift, cluck for more. Yep. And eight to $10 an hour. And there's skillet. I think it was a skuky is what they call it.

Oh my gosh. Like a skillet cookie. Yeah. With ice cream. I mean. Done. Yeah. That sounds amazing.

That made that last hour worth it. Yeah. What are some of the books that. you would like gift to people if you were saying like you got to read this seven habits of highly effective Stephen Covey Stephen Covey uh good to great and um eat that who's good to great i know that uh callins i think and uh eat that frog which is uh i think it's brian tracy yeah i believe um if not i think it is yeah it's it's you know i i would be a procrastinator without realizing it.

And then this book put it into perspective. Just get it out of the way in the morning. Eat that frog. What does he mean by eat that frog? It means, you know, if you know that you have to eat a frog in the day, do it first thing in the morning and get, because you're, eat the nastiest, most disgusting frog first thing. And then everything else is bliss.

You know, if you have like tadpoles throughout the rest of the day, at least you got the nasty one done. And I'm probably butchering what he is whole. The idea, though, makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Why dread it the whole day when you can just get it done first thing in the morning and then the rest of the day, you know, you can pick and choose what little tadpoles you want to just throw down.

So freedomfightnight.com is the best way for people to find out more? Yes. Also, is it on Instagram? Oh, yeah. Freedom Fight Night on Instagram. freedom fight night on on Facebook, but especially Clout Hub is, you know,

one of the businesses that I invest in heavily because it is a pro-free speech platform. I know there's a lot of platforms coming out of the woodworks right now just to just to fight against the, what we're talking about, the First Amendment censorship and whatnot. But unlike, unlike Getter or true social

or all those things that are specifically trying to be the alternative to Twitter, CloudHub is the alternative for everything, for Facebook. I mean, for YouTube, for Instagram, it's technology. I mean,

we're running our fight night pay-per-view at it. It has so much more technology and advancement than a Twitter alternative. Even though we don't even really need a Twitter alternative now after Elon Musk has gone in and saved the day.

Yeah. It's at freedomfightnight.com is where people can either buy tickets, or they can watch it on pay-per-view, I guess. They can watch it on pay-per-view. They can donate to the cause. We're having it structured where they can do donation to a 501c3 and actually help. If they don't care about MMA, I don't know who doesn't.

But if they just want to be part of a good cause, or if they want to stream it through Cloud Hub, they can buy their streaming ticket. Or, of course, if we sell out, we're going to go. live on the ticket sales, I believe, Monday. And if those just sell out right away, we're going to need to move venues. Because right next door is a bigger facility that we could adapt and evolve.

That could host three, four times the amount. But right now it's just a 2,500 seat max. And I think we might have already sold out. Wow. That's a good problem. That's a good problem to have. Thank you so much for coming back. Man, this isn't a blast. Let's do it again. We'll do it at a fight night sometime. Yes. Genius. I was going to say in a studio like this, I don't want to do anything remote or virtual ever again. Me too. I feel the exact same way. It's why I fly out here to Vegas all the time. Whenever you can have another wannabe MMA guy on here, let me know.

I end every conversation talking about gratitude. For me, I wake up every day and I say out loud three things I'm grateful for. I need to do that. And I do it before I go to bed too. I mean, I think, because if you can frame life in that way, makes you realize how much you have instead of focusing on all the things you don't have. Shoot. So what are three things in your life? Well, Harrison that you're grateful for right now. Real quick, on that note, I think it's so awesome that you said that because the fight the, the, um, what's not the anecdote, maybe that is the word, but is to depression is gratitude.

And so to be able to fight depression. Yeah. You can, you can't be simultaneously. angry or depressed when you're being grateful. Wow. Well, on that note, because I do a lot with mental health and a lot of my business background is with that. So I definitely am grateful, one, for my family. I'm married, have five kids. They are everything for me, which is, you know, but then two. I don't know how you were able to get away from them. Five kids and a wife. That's,

yeah, no. And you're here in Las Vegas with us. So thank you. She is a stud. She will hold down the floor while I'm gone. But then, too, I've had this recent very much reinvigorated spirituality happen. So I'm very grateful for a creator, whoever, whatever anybody believes, I do believe that we have a loving creator that wants us to maximize the skill sets that he has given us for the good of our neighbors, our brothers and sisters. And then the third is I'm grateful for the opportunity that I have right now to hopefully bless others with some of the blessings that I have. Love it. Those are three great things. Hey.

Harrison. Thank you so much. Thank you. I'm excited to be on again. There we go. For more information on Freedom Fight Night, head to Freedom Fight Night. And of course, a huge thank you to Harrison for being with us inside the beautiful, incredible, incredible. Unbelievable Blue Wire Studios at the Wind Las Vegas.

And thank you for always being with us on these audio adventures. I'm going to leave you with a great quote from Bill Nye. Yes, that Bill Nye, the science guy. Everyone you will ever meet knows something that you don't. Be great and be grateful. We'll see you on the next one for some more insight. Jim Rome takes on sports. Why? Because I have a job to do.

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