Insight with Chris Van Vliet - Gallows, Anderson & Rocky Romero: The Talk'n Shop podcast drops by for a hilarious hangout

Episode Date: November 12, 2020

Karl Anderson, Doc Gallows and Rocky Romero from the Talk'n Shop Podcast stop by The CVV Show. They talk about the second worst Pay Per View ever Talknshopamania, how Impact Wrestling has supported their outside business ventures, their sucess as entrepreneurs since being released from WWE in April, their dream picks for the next pay per view and much more! Support the show by supporting our sponsors:BOSLEY - Get a free info kit and a $250 off gift card by texting CVV to 203-203https://www.bosley.com/lp/chrisvanvliet/INDEED- Get a $75 credit to boost your job post by going to http://indeed.com/BlueWire BETONLINE- Get a new sign-up bonus by using the promo code BLUEWIRE at http://betonline.ag Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chris Van Vleet Show. Ladies and gentlemen, Chris. Well, here we go. Welcome back to another audio adventure on the Chris Van Fleet Show. so glad you can make it for this epic crossover between my podcast and the talking shop podcast. This episode is brought to you by Bosley, Indeed, and Bet Online. And as I sit here and record this right now, we are just one day away from the second worst pay-per-view of all time.

Talkin' Shoppingia, too. And if you saw the first one, you know what kind of ridiculousness you're in for this one. And if you didn't know, oh man, well, I will let Gallows and Anderson and Rocky Romero explain it here. And also, when you do order, when you do watch this thing, you'll see a very familiar face in there. At least briefly. Yeah, yeah. I had the honor. I can't believe this.

I had the honor of being part of one of the matches that they filmed in Los Angeles with quite the cast of characters. I don't want to give too much away, but when you watch this, you'll see exactly what I mean. If it's your first time here, thank you for joining us. Make sure to hit subscribe at some point today. So you don't miss out on any future updates on any future podcasts. And please keep those reviews coming in. If you haven't left a review yet on Apple Podcasts, if you could take a few seconds out of your day today to do that.

It can be as silly as you want. It can be as stupid, as ridiculous as you want. I'm going to read one out on every single episode. In fact, in fact, I will read the most ridiculous one out on the next episode. So you've got about a week here to get those ridiculous reviews in. So let's see it. This one comes from Herrigal. I hope I'm saying that right.

Herrigal, who says simply the best, expect no less. Longtime listener, found your YouTube clips, and listened in on Spotify. I opened my Apple app just to leave a review. Oh my gosh. Chris is the best interviewer, hands down, wrestling, or otherwise. He's engaging and can nicely steer the conversation while still letting the subject have pretty free reign. I find myself even enjoying interviews that I've never thought I would. Nobody can do it like Chris, and that's why we love you, man.

Keep it up. Wow, this is amazing. Wow, thank you. You went from Spotify to the Apple Podcast app just to leave a review. That is, you're a real one. That is very generous of you. and I thank you and commend you for your time and your effort. And we're going to keep reading one out on every single episode until we get to that goal of 2000 reviews.

Got some big guests coming up. And I've mentioned this before. I obviously do a lot of interviews with wrestlers. And I'm a huge wrestling fan. You are too. That's why you're here. But I'm also just a fan of talking to people who are great at what they do. And I love being able to deconstruct and reverse engineer greatness.

So we've got some guests coming up that might, you know, they're not wrestlers, but there's people that we can definitely, definitely learn from. So I look forward to being able to share those conversations with you. And thank you, Heriagal. I hope a far, Horigal, I don't know. It's H-E-R-I-E-G-E-E-L. H-E-R-I-E-G-E-L. Herigal, thank you for the kind words and saying that my interviews are good, even if they're not with wrestlers. So we've got many of those coming up. So I appreciate you. So, You know, we just had Gallos and Anderson on a few months ago. We had them on right before Talking Shopping Mania one. And, you know, none of us really knew what Talking Shopping Mania was all about. But now we all know exactly what Talking Shopomania is all about. Also, my interview with them last time is the most listened to episode of the podcast ever. So you guys obviously liked them. This time we have the entire Talk and Shop podcast crew on here.

We've got Gallos and Anderson. and Rocky Romero. And it's pretty amazing to see everything the Good Brothers have done since being released from WWE back in April. They are easily the most successful wrestlers slash entrepreneurs since that release with everything that they've created. Now, they'll talk about it all here, but the pay-per-view and the podcast and the alcohol, everything,

everything that they have going on here and the apparel. So it's just so amazing. And that's not including everything. they have going on in impact wrestling. So we talk about all of that. This was hardly really an interview. This was really just us hanging out for an hour and sharing a bunch of laughs. So here you go. Please welcome Carl Anderson, Doc Gallos, and Rocky Romero. Well, what a pleasure to welcome everyone back to the show again in three completely different locations here. Rocky Romero in like a very professional looking office, perhaps. Thank you. Yes.

Now we've got Carl Anderson in a closet. It's a big walk-in closet, but it's been a long week, boys. And Doc Gallows is in a car. What are you, just sitting in a random parking lot? Yeah, I'm here in the comfort of the escalate in the car rider lane waiting to pick my son up from school. He likes to just throw that. He likes to throw that little escalade shot in there from the talking shop of mania one riches that we're just. It's not a little, babe.

That he's swimming in like Scrooge McDonough. duck. Yeah, I wish. I saw the budget for talking Choppa Mania, too, and it wasn't so good. You know, you talk about remote locations. I mean, let's talk about Chris's appearance on Talking Shoppingania too, and let's talk about two different coasts. And, I mean, we're outgrowing one location. It's like WrestleMania, what was it, three or four, where they're just, you know, satellites from all over the country. That's where we're going to be next. I can't wait. I didn't think that talking Choppa Mania could possibly get any worse, and then you guys brought me

into the mix. Yeah, well, it's a real shit show. The problem is your segment's the best segment of the show. Yeah, clearly. But did Vince go like all in on WrestleMania 3 where he did everything? He just, or was it one? There was, well, I think one was maybe the

closed circuit one, but one of them there were locations where they had them in different cities and you could like a match filmed in LA and a match filmed here and there. Anyway, that's the comparison I'm drawing. to talk in Choppa. No, but what I'm saying is, yeah,

what are we trying to get as we spent all over? We spent the entire bank account. Gone. See ya. And in the rent. We went way overboard on this one. I want to know what the original, I want to know what the original discussion was when you guys came up with the

ridiculous idea for the first talk in Shoppingia. Where did the, like where did the idea come? Gallos. That's Gallus. I just, you know, I just thought there was no reason to be bitter about where we were leaving.

I thought the best way to make light of it was to spoof it and make money at it. And then it worked. And now we're starting all over again because we blew our wad on number two. Chris, we're in the negative right now. So we're really hoping, like, this is a shoot. We're in the negative right now. So we really hoping that things turn around and we could possibly make some money off this or at least get back into the black.

We weren't in the negative until we started having fun. What we started thinking we were, you know, Like when Major League 2, they got famous. That's what we did. We did so well in Major League in part one. We just went insane. But part one was all gallows. Like literally called me five minutes after we got canned from New York.

And I wasn't prepared to answer the call. And then he called me again about an hour later and filled me in on how he was running this pay-per-view. And he was either going to do it with us or without us, yes. That's right. I was like, oh, I don't even, I don't know. you know then you're watching it and going man this thing sucks right like then oh yeah then we're laughing watching it going i don't know if this is funny or if it's not funny then we even watched it back and

we had to do an opening for the first talking shop we had to do an opening just to explain ourselves because we thought it sucked so bad just because we didn't know if it was going to be funny or not and then by god it was so bad it was funny yeah i mean it was funny and number two is our humor turned up times 10. And I'm really hoping that people buy it because I know that talking shop LLC owes my personal LLC thousands of dollars. He likes to throw that in there at us all. Yes, I do.

I do. Rocky, you say you guys are, you know, you're in the negative right now. But of course you are. You know, the paper view hasn't come out yet. That's where you make the money. Exactly. Yeah. Maybe.

I don't know, man. Guys, it's going to be fine. Talking Chauvelmania 3, 2021 with a live audience. I'm calling it right now an exclusive right here on the show. You guys should do WrestleMania weekend talking Shoppingania. Oh, Chris. Are your wheels spinning the same way mine are?

My goodness gracious. I'll only do it if Chris is the host. Yeah. Oh, you have demands now? I demand. You want to break your budget even more? Sign me on. And it's just like,

with part two, though, we just went, man, I watched it. I watched it back. I previewed it yesterday, today, yes, whenever I did. And about 10 minutes in, man, like, I hear us on commentary, and we're laughing so hard, Rocky's gleaking, you can tell he's gleaking because he's a gleaking when he starts laughing. Yeah, I can tell by the spit running down my face. He was gleating. Yes, Gallows is screaming, like in this, in this, like, high-pitched scream laugh that he has. And I'm, and I have an ab cramp, except I'm screaming, giggling. Then I started laughing just watching.

I go, I don't know. It's funny again. I don't believe it. It's so bad. It's funny. So when we started talking about how bad slash good we thought this was, how funny, how over the top it was, rock has been telling us about all these things that we're supposed to be watching and previewing.

And I've just been agreeing in our text chain, but not doing it. Because I get a little nervous. Like now it actually happened and it's a thing. I was very excited doing it. But now if it really sucks and it's the shits, I only want everyone to see it once. Yeah. You refuse to watch it, don't you? Yeah, I don't watch it.

I just go, oh, yeah, it was good, guys, thanks. And then I don't watch it. This is what I do. So I'm hoping that on Friday, November the 13th, and 10 p.m. on Worldwide Pay-per-View and live via the fight app when I pay-per-view. I'm going to enjoy the hell out of it. But I don't know. But see, Chris, that was a problem.

Nobody watched it. And then I watched the first one. And I watched it and went, oh, my God, guys, we can't release this. No, people loved it. I know. I know. But this. Like, we didn't know, though.

man. We didn't know though, brother. Yeah, we were nervous. So the first time we watched it, we all, like, he said that and then we all watched and we're like, oh, shit. I don't know if you should put this out. Then we're like, why don't we do an opening and try to like, yeah, that's what we're opening. Why don't we do an opening and apologize and the people that we already got their $15?

But you guys threw this together, like relatively quickly and for it to look as good for as bad as it was. And I say that in the kindest way, I think you really pulled something off here. You know, we definitely, we definitely up the production on this one. We definitely spent, and I think that's where a lot of the money went was just, you know, trying to make it look better than it did because the first time it looked so shitty. So like, we were trying to like really, we really tried to do our, like, just do it justice.

You can't just keep putting out like a terrible looking product. We actually have to like try to make this better. Sure we can. Well, I'll tell you this, though. I'm worried about the integrity. of the hashtag worst pay-per-view ever and also hashtag worse than the first tongue shop many two

because the segment you guys shot, the segments you guys shot in Los Angeles, they're the only thing I've honestly seen other than when we ran through and did some commentary stuff. And I was like, this is like movie quality. It's too good for what we do.

I don't know if this is going to work for us or not because it looked like something you would watch on like Netflix, not some shit that like obviously would come out of my backyard, which it did. You guys did it in Los Angeles. You had a proper crew.

But if for nothing else, buy it for that. Buy it for Chico versus Chavo. The Lucha Libre death match is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen. And then, of course, followed up by Ball for a Ball, which, you know, we always say get a head change for talking Choppa Mania. But like, you know, I'm not saying that you need to drink or do anything like that. But whatever you can do, if you need to get on an inversion table and hang upside down for 30 minutes before you watch this thing, do that. because I don't want you in the right frame of mind because if your humor is not as dark as the machine got a night,

you might be wondering what the fuck you're watching. Not only was this a real production in Los Angeles, but I swear that Rocky blew the entire budget on that craft services table. Like there was... You son of a bitch, I didn't know about that. The boys weren't supposed to know about that, Chris. Stop spilling beans, bro. Hold on. What?

I said peanut butter sandwiches rock and McDonald's. I went all out on. You had those. Have you guys tried these salmon chips? Instead of potato chips, there are little bits of salmon skin. And Rocky. The entire budget on these. I was keto friendly.

I wanted to make sure that it was keto friendly, vegan friendly. I wanted to make, you know, it's Los Angeles. You know, a lot of different type of, you know, characters out here. We've got to make sure that everybody's eating well. Let me tell you about. Why and fuck, Rock? Let me tell you about what out. Outside of Atlanta, we exchanged sushi from talking shopper mania one for McDonald's on

talking to Chalbumenia too and just well, here it is, have something. Enjoy yourself. That's okay because remember the Boneyard match with at WrestleMania. That's all we got too. And the whole crew ate it. So we didn't even get it. Yeah, that's the truth. They had a bag of McDoubles and we didn't get one. We were, we were getting so it's all good. We were getting by the undertaker for nine hours. We didn't get one McDouble. Yeah. The funny thing is there was a giant bag of candy on this snack table. And you know, you're with a dozen wrestlers. None of them eat candy. So at the end of the day, the bag hadn't even opened up. yet. Dude, that's so funny because I've been eating that bag since.

Like, I've been just dipping into that bag every... I would have grabbed that shit on my way out of there, knowing that the craft services that Rock provided for everyone was top-notch. I mean, the Chavo versus Chico match has got... It's like, what we were thinking of, my first idea was... I kind of threw this out there, right? Do I get a little credit for this one finally? Yeah, no, for sure.

Maybe a little bit. But you took it to the whole different level. I was thinking more like that Monty Python. style where the kid the guy gets his arm cut off and he keeps fighting and he can make it funny like that but then rock goes out there and well he obviously gives you guys thousands of dollars of catering and doesn't discuss that much the funny the funny thing is i haven't even disclosed to you the final like how much uh talk and shop the la location how much that really cost well at this point at this point what doesn't matter it doesn't matter it's yeah we're declaring bankruptcy

anyway, so it's funny. Yeah, we're all in, brother. But I saw the final, I saw the final Chabo versus Chico. And I mean, there's gunshots. There's like, there's deaths. There's, it's like matrix moves. Rock kills a guy. I just, I just figured, yeah.

Yeah, I just figured like, you know, like, I hate that, you know, you know, death match is just used and just, you know, it's just thrown out there. I mean, like, why not really make it a death match and make sure that somebody actually? Why not straight up murder somebody, right? There's a literal death match in talking choppania too. Yeah. Yeah. If someone's sitting down to watch this with a friend who's not a wrestling fan or their girlfriend,

how do you explain this to somebody? This is a satire on everything. Wrestlers and professional wrestling fans, all the fun stuff when you're growing up and you're calling your buddy and you're kind of figuring out that like, hey, this isn't 100% legit good versus evil. real combat. And when you look at it that way, enjoy the great stuff. But then there's also things where you go, come on. And I think that talking Chopinia originally just came from that. And we have some really funny spruce. In my opinion, in talking Shopping 2, two great factions debuting. I mean, we've already let the lid off a retro poop shit. Yeah, yeah, we did. We have another legendary faction coming behind that with some of the biggest heavy hitter.

in the business. So, I mean, you guys got to watch out. Creative juices are flowing here, and I don't know how good or bad it is. It might just be totally bad, but we... We're losing the LG a little bit. Well, he's driving around in his escalator. Yeah, he's in his escalator,

that's what you like to talk about. His escalate doesn't have a Wi-Fi. I like the machine gets drinking wine during this. This is great. Sadly, guys, it's not wine. I'm kind of on a little bit of drinking probation. having myself some Diet Coke. Look, I don't want to get into it,

but I hope everything's okay in your world. Everything's beautiful, baby. Everything's beautiful. It's a Diet Coke in a wine glass. It's Diet Coke and a wine glass with a little bit of K-Fabe juice in there. We'll keep it that way. Well, we can,

Impact Wrestling, Tuesday nights at 8 p.m. Access TV. Let's just keep moving on the interview here. Great. You know, right before we got on this call, I was thinking you guys might be the most successful bunch of people to leave this idiot. No, but I think you're the most successful since this recent round of layoffs.

So you guys are crushing it with the paper view, the podcast, the clothing, the alcohol, literally, everything. You guys have so many things going on. Yeah, it's, you know, it's like we hit the ground running the second, you know, we were free. and then, you know, we got started with impact. We're too dumb to quit, Chris. Yeah. We started talking shop right out the gate.

It's got a lot of stuff going on. I think we got to stay busy, you know, and it's especially with what's going on right now. And it's been a lot of fun. That's like the main thing that when the three of us get together and get to create and do what we do, it's been, that's, we're having fun. And that's, that's all we ever wanted to do.

But is this a product of the strange time that we're in here in 2020? with COVID, because, you know, maybe you would have got released and then just went and worked a bunch of Indies and, you know, made some decent money. But because that wasn't really an option, did you go, well, now we need to do some other things from here? Well, you know, yeah, definitely. But we, we're not really allowed to go do that. We can do appearances and stuff like that. But we wanted to grow the brand. It's great to go make that cash and stash it away and all that stuff. But we were thinking about the brand and the long haul and where we go with this podcast. and what these pay-per-view things can be.

And we've got three different kinds of alcohol coming out now and just all these projects. So it felt like it was probably more important to go that way. But I think the pandemic definitely afforded us an opportunity where we might not have had where people were sitting around with nothing to do and they needed a laugh. So here comes talking shopomania. And thankfully they laughed and hopefully they laugh harder at talking shoppermania too. But the pandemic definitely had a lot to do with that. Well, I also think that like on top of that, it's like we had to be.

be creative about it, right? Not being able to do the norm of just, you know, like, like doing Indies or whatever. And I'm speaking for more for these guys than anything. It is we just had to like focus. Also, we're thinking about here's the opportunity to really go all in on this product while people are watching. And and, you know, these guys being let go really put, you know, a focus on these guys to see like, what are they going to do next, right? People were actually interested and invested in like what they were going to do next. So thankfully, we just had the, you know, the podcast going, like four weeks before this. We had restarted it.

So it just gave us, you know, the opportunity to really, like, go all in. And then not only do that, but like invest for like, like Gallo said, like for the future, for the long term. It's like, what can we could make this, you know, this talk and shop brand into something that, you know, could transcend just professional wrestling maybe and, you know, enter into like other worlds, you know, like whether it's comedy or like. you know, mainstream or sports, you know, whatever. I think that the talking shop brand can be a lot bigger than just the three of us, I think.

Absolutely. You have one of the biggest podcasts in on the wrestling charts right now, and you guys are only, what, six months into podcasting? Right. You know, and I don't know that if it's so crazy because I don't, I still don't believe, you know, I don't know anything, but I still don't believe we would have, we would have left WWE if it wasn't for the COVID pandemic and that. So I don't know what trajectory our careers would have taken if we would have been released and there was no pandemic and we could go wherever we wanted to go.

I don't know. But I think being released in the era that that is COVID and that was this crazy pandemic gave us a chance to be able to create like this. Because this is our kind of shit. This is the stuff that we want to do now. To be able to do talking. Yeah, this is what we love. To be able to do talking shopmania one, which ended up being something that we really enjoyed creating and then being able to be able to. to throw everything into part two and have even more fun creatively creating this thing.

Like, this might not have ever happened if there was no pandemic. Right. For sure. I mean, and it's a huge gamble too. I mean, like it literally is like we're like all joking aside when we talk about being in the red and all. I mean, it's a truth. But like it's really like just a huge gamble on ourselves to like really, you know,

try to grow this brand into something else. And that's what I hope people appreciate too. It's like we're not being funded by any major company. Yes, we both sides work for, you know, both sides work for major companies. But we don't really have, you know, we have no financial support from either one. And it's just really like all, you know, the three of us pooling everything together, our friends, resources, everything to try to really do something creative and completely out of the box and different that I hope that wrestling fans and we'll just really enjoy. Impact wrestling's been really good about getting behind the talk and shop brand.

Like they're all in on this like you guys are. Impact. We can't say that enough. And any time we get to speak publicly about any of this, I like to take a moment and just kind of put those guys over, put over Scott Demore, Don Callis, and everybody over at Impact because they completely embraced us the same way that I think we completely embrace them.

And they've been nothing but helpful on that end. And I mean, you'll see, I think this thing will drop after tonight's episode. But you'll see, you know, leading up to talking Chopomania too, You know, there'll be a commercial in there for talking shopomania. And there'll be stuff like that on their television show. And I think that speaks volumes for them and how they get behind and support their talent and the outside projects that we're working on and all kinds of stuff like that. And it's funny talking about the pandemic because like even thinking ahead of talking shoppomania too,

we have to figure out, all right, as hopefully this thing peels back a little bit and things start to open up a little bit, how do we move next? I mean, we're going to Baltimore on November the 22nd for the first ever talking shop live with a socially distance crowd and environment. And we're going to be doing a live podcast with, you know, all the characters, sex and Too Bad and Chico El Uchador and some other familiar faces there. But that's our first time doing something like that. You know, we're wrestlers. And now we're walking into this kind of new universe for us. So it's been really fun trying some of that.

The full keg special on Access TV. then talking shop special was a success and it had a lot of good social media engagement. People seem to really enjoy that. So you're watching us in front of your eyes, kind of throw shit at the wall and see what sticks. So I'm just glad everybody's along for the ride and they keep watching it and checking it out. Well, you're not just wrestlers now. You and so many other people have become entrepreneurs. And that's like a big shift in what we're seeing that's happening all across the board in wrestling right now. 100%. Yeah. And like you said earlier, I think,

just the timing of this, it worked out really good for us to be able to come out of the gate and do that and create some content and then hopefully do some business along with it. And like, yeah, oh, I was going to say, and like you said, Chris, you know, impact has been really great about pushing the product and pushing the brand where like we've seen, you know, other companies kind of go the other route, you know, and really kind of pigeonholed the talent and trying to do extracurricular stuff. and when they're trying to grow their own personal brand. So I think it's been a blessing to have impact in the corner.

And they've been even so supportive of New Japan as well. And me working for New Japan Pro Wrestling, it hasn't been any issue or anything. They've been extremely supportive even in plugging New Japan during, you know, the Taco Shop, a full keg special. So they've been great. You know, shout out to impact. Also, I mean, New Japan is one of the first wrestling companies to be able to come back with a crowd. Granted, it's not here in North America.

but that's exciting as a fan to see that there's actually fans in the seats enjoying the product that we used to enjoy seven months ago. Right. I feel like it's been awesome. You know, I feel like it's kind of the light at the end of the tunnel for like wrestling fans to be like, look, look, they're doing it. Look, like one day this is going to be, we're all going to be back.

Yeah, it might be all be over one day and we might be back to the arenas and, you know, enjoying how we, how we, you know, wrestling in the way that we, we did for so long, you know. Right. That's why we're getting excited about Jimmy's seafood on November 22nd, though, because if you've ever seen us in, like, a live interview setting or whatever, like, we, if you know us, we don't have much of a filter anyway. So the stuff we say is just, we're just having fun. And I can't wait to be in front of, like, those are our people, our fans that are there to support us and support the podcast and are, literally there just get to have a good time. And like, we're going to be laughing.

And I mean, it's going to be fucking so much fun. And it's just to be able to engage a crowd again and engage our fans and just get a reaction and just see people laughing and smiling and fuck farting, whatever they want to do. Just have fun. And let's talk about the fact that we're going to get to see our own BBD in action. Our editor, our podcast editor, Emilio, Sparks, who's a single man in New York City. He's just losing his mind right now. And we're having a contest to see who can become his Tinder date, you know?

Hashtag what? Farm animal, you know. Balls deep in Baltimore. Yeah. Paul's deep Billy. Bells deep, guys. So we got a big opportunity.

Rock, how do they get tickets to talk and shop live, Baltimore, Jimmy Seafood on November 22nd, 6 p.m. Before that other pay-per-view, we might watch with you. You're the master of plugging things. I love it. Just go to PayPal, just go to PayPal, putting the notes, talking shop Baltimore, T&S, Baltimore, hashtag TNS, Baltimore.

And tickets are $100. First row is $125. And just drop us a line. And we're creating a list and working it all out and just bring your IDs at the door and you'll be ready to go. I think I'm going to come. I think I'm going to fly there, join you guys. Yes, please.

It would be great. Let's talk about it. Come on. Let's do that. Let's talk about it off the air. Let's get this thing going. Okay. It's in there.

Don, have you been there yet? Have I been to Baltimore? Are you been to Jimmy's? I've not been to Jimmy's. Great. You have to go to Jimmy's brother, brother. I do love me some seafood and not in the Ball's Deep Billy kind of way.

That's the other. I'm excited to see Balls-D-Billy with his date, though, man, woman, or what'd you say for farm animal? A farm animal. Listen, it's open. Have a little goat sitting there. Whatever you know. Sure. We don't even have, we don't even have parameters on this contest.

Just reach out via social or one of our emails and tell us why you should be the winner. You or your pet, whoever. Well, we're not getting any requests, though, are we? Well, I think we're going to have to get, I think what we're going to have to do is publish BDB's Tinder profile. That's going to have to be what happens next. Yeah. We just got to, yeah, well, we just got, we're just going to have to pick the fan that can sit with balls deep because. Right.

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This isn't just a podcast. What you guys have created here is this is a morning radio show that happens to be on a podcast. because, yeah, I was a guest. It was so fortunate and so grateful to be invited to be part of your show. But it's just kind of like you just hang out for an hour. And then like with five minutes to go, Amelia's like, okay, guys, wrap it up. And you're like, oh, all right. Well, we'll stop talking now.

Basically. You put a mic in front of these guys, man. They won't stop talking about that. Yeah, we don't really, we don't really shut up. Unless we get frozen like Gallows is right now. He has that Georgia internet work in there. There's that look. peaceful right now, doesn't he?

There was a time we were recording the podcast and I said something that I said should have been filtered and Rock's face got stuck with this weird look. Like he was looking at me mad. I was like, damn, he's mad as fuck, dude. And then I realized that he just got in this pandemic. We're all doing stuff via the internet. And so like, you never know where our Wi-Fi's are going to be.

Like, I've missed a couple of podcasts because my Wi-Fi's gone. I miss, I miss getting to do it with Eric Bischoff. And all the big names, they don't have me ever. So that's probably why it's successful. You got to get that fiber internet. That's what you need. Fuck, you know how it is with Wi-Fi, brother, brother. Everybody's at home working nowadays, too.

So everything is just, everything is so fucking weird now, man. That's why talking shop, that's why talking shop one did so damn well. Because it was so weird. It's a weird face we've gone on the big LG. There he is. Looking so happy. He's so happy. Just a frozen brother.

That's like when he We lost him. So those are the faces he looked like when he would tell me that we should, when he used to look at me in Japan and tell me we need to get Botox. And I would say, I'm not getting Botox, brother.

And he would tell me, yes, you need to get it. I'm going to get, I'm not getting, I'm not getting Botox. We'll show up at the Tokyo Dome with our face is fucking frozen. I think we should all get Botox. I think we need it right now. Well, I think the thing about, the thing about wrestling is, you know, you got to give good face. I mean, you guys, of course, know that.

Right. You can't give good. good expressions when your face is frozen. That's true. I got to get rid of some of these wrinkles, though, man. Go on. This talking shop has given me so much stress. I'm getting more.

You got to talk. Oh, Doc is joining us again. Yes. Hold on. He's trying to join back again. Oh, wonderful. Oh, okay. Yep.

We just need him to turn that camera on there. We need him to get to that McDonald's parking lot. That's where the Wi-Fi is the best. Oh, yeah, he's got to get to the McDonald's parking lot. I mean, he's in the middle of the sticks, right? He is, he is. Yes. He's just got, he also is like, so he's picking up his kid,

and then he's got like a thousand interviews he's doing. He's got 100 phone calls on all day long. He works all day. I appreciate that he made time for this. Chris, what day we got to get you out to the, to the palatial estate where we can really do talking shop? Done. That would be, that would be the ultimate.

You guys are inspiring. I mean, I've been, I've had my YouTube channel for many years, but I've really only been all in on it, maybe two in a bit, two and a half. Yeah. The podcast, a year and a half. But what you guys have built just in the last seven months is it's really inspiring to me. Well, I'm back. Fuck.

He's back. That's very nice of you, Chris. Yeah. No, it's true. We need to get you out to Atlanta. We do need to get you to Atlanta. And so you can, like, see that and feel that. L.A. was the nice version of.

Yeah. I'm not even joking. L.A. felt like we were on a movie set. I'm serious. Right, right. Well, it was different because there was good workers there. There was like, you know, famous guys. There was some famous people at Gallows' palatial estate at the,

but, you know, there was some not, you know. Gallo said he's back. It looks like he's back, but we can't see him. Well, he'll figure this out. Can we, can we just, I don't. I mean, I think we just got to be, so like part of the storyline is that Gallo's got so rich from part one that he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's not even there to do it with us. So, we have CGI, we have CGLs on commentary with us the whole time. And it's, it's, he talks in a, he talks in a stupid, like he's a genius. Yeah. I really, I really wanted to ask Gallows about, uh, you know, the impact wrestling debut. He got so excited that he slipped on the ramp. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. I. Yeah. I. I. I. I. I Well, like, so I got to the back and I was pumped up thinking, we just fucking changed the whole game, baby.

I'm just, just moon walking back, ready for everybody to put me over, put it all over, I come back and Brian Myers is there, Hawkins. He just goes, ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, I said, what? He said, what do you mean? What? You didn't see Drew slip? And I went, oh, come on. I didn't even realize he did it, but Gallo's turned it into what it is.

it's the no hand cross chop. Because he just did like a little, he just did a little brother bomb. I feel like if the crowd was there, that wouldn't have happened. I feel like his focus would have been elsewhere. I don't know. I don't know.

He really is in the, in the shoes and what kind of shoes he wears on debuts and looking cool. And I always try to tell him that nobody looks at your shoes when you're debut. And so he wore cowboy boots and they couldn't, I mean, they might look at your shoes. That's not true.

I just don't think you should wear. I mean, I debuted in WWE. and at impact, both with not, I'm not telling you, not very expensive shoes. I just used it. I knew that I wasn't going to fucking slip in. So if you want to go back and look at some of those,

like you can tell. I think the ones at WW were like loafers, man. Or I think something weird, I knew I could run in. Wrestlers put a lot of focus on their gear. Like gear is so, so, so. Oh, the ghost. Oh, yeah, he just dropped off again. Hey.

We don't need that son of a gun. Wrestlers put so much focus on gear that I think that, like, fans definitely don't notice as much as wrestlers and fellow wrestlers notice. For sure. I like if you show up with ripped shoes or something, I mean, I can see it. But, I mean, I'm trying to think of what if anybody wants to go back and watch our impact debut, I'm pretty certain I didn't wear really expensive shoes, maybe some old brother Nike's, maybe something, I'm telling you, they weren't very pretty.

I think the culture now, though, is so shoe, like, heavy and, like, they look at, like, what kind of shoes you're wearing, you know, if you're wearing Jordans, if you're wearing cowboy boots. I mean, if, I mean, because it's so, it's so a part of the appeal. Like, think about Stone Cold Steve Austin, you know that he wore those black high-tech boots, you know, or whatever they were called. And, you know, like, that was, I mean, obviously, you wore it every week, but I don't know. I think that that, I think people are.

I just don't, I don't think Gallows needed to wear cowboy boots on a slippery ramp. That's what I'm trying to get at. He should have tested it out for sure. He should have tested it out. He learned his lesson, I guess. Yeah. Right. I mean, I think he actually, I think he actually did because a couple of we've recorded

impact. High texts. There we go. Oh, we can hear him, but we just can't see him. Guys. There we go. Back. Hey.

Hey. Hey. So here's the thing. If these guys didn't get their oil all over the ramp, it never would have. Oh. Who were we blaming this on? Who had too much baby oil? Yeah.

I don't know. If it's me, it's okay. But if somebody's going to do a big dive at the bottom of the ramp with a bunch of oil on, which I'm not going to do, we're going to screw things up for everyone else. But I retired the cowboy boots on wrestling television for now. But like you said, though, Gallo's like, what did you create, though? It wasn't actually a slip. It was the...

Oh, I... Oh, the no-hand crotch. It was the no-hand-crotch chop. No-hand-crucks chop. No-hand-crucks-ch-ch-chop. Gallows, what city are you in that has this terrible internet connection? Guys, I live an hour outside of Atlanta in a beautiful suburb. I have to live out in the country so that these talking chopper-manian fans are beating my doors down in the city, no?

Understandable. Understandable. Big problem. I think you need to, you know, find yourself. a better internet provider though. Yeah, there's one out here. It's AT&T. I'll go on the record to say it's been horrible.

I've been on the phone with them for two months about how to upgrade it. They want you to sign a petition to get the number up higher on your street. It's really out of control. I wish they'd do better, but they won't. They're trying to rob the public. So they will never be a sponsor now. Don't want them. Don't want them.

They're messing up my life. For someone who's listening to this and wants to become a good brother, What does it take to be a good brother? Well, we started saying good brother because it was like, you know, just our term, wrestling term for like, is that a good guy or not? Is that a guy you like to hang out with? Is that a guy you like to have a beer with? Is he a good brother or not?

That's kind of where Good Brother came from. But if you want to show that you're a good brother, brand.com, get the new Good Brother sweatpants, new Good Brother hats, new Good Brother Jackets, and Talking Shopping Mania T-shirt, all those things, guys. Come on now. Hey, we do have Good Brother sweatpants and Good Brother pants. And I wore those home from the tapings, like, just because. And it's just they were, yeah, look at that.

There it is. Very nice. Never put it past us to wear our own shit. Oh, yeah. That's an old wrestler adage. Like, you don't wear your own stuff because you're a mark for something. Like, you should wear it every day, get more people to wear it. Yeah.

That's the best way to get people to wear it for sure. 100%. I would say a good brother, though, for sure, is just someone you know you can trust. You know, you can, you get yourself in a fucking something, whatever. You need to call somebody. You know you can call on that. that guy. You can call on that, on that brother that can honestly be there for you. And like, then you can know, and you can just tell is, does that guy seem like a good brother?

And he seems like one, let's fucking give him a chance or whatever, you know. I think that Chris Jericho is now saying good brother a lot. Oh, yeah. He loves it. Yeah. He is. Yes. He's, we, I think one of our, yes, we're, he's a, he's our, he's our good brother, hands down. Absolutely. So, so you've, it's okay if Chris Jericho's saying, He obviously got this from you guys. Well, Chris Jericho can say whatever. Oh, of course. He's the Ayatollah rock and roll.

I deemed this term 10 years ago and it just became wrestling lingo now, which I love. So it's a good thing. We want everybody to say good brother. Good brother. Well, we got three good brothers here right now. It's great. Well, we got four good brothers. A fifth one, a fifth one with our PR guy to make sure we're not saying something dumb.

He's on here making sure. Are the North good brothers? Yes. They delivered quite the slap to Gallo's face. Ethan Page is a good friend of my. Oh, man. Yeah, but if you watched last week's episode of Impact on Access TV, you saw the comeuppance just like I predicted.

So, and if he wants, I'll slap the taste out of his mouth again. No problem. Wow. This got heavy in here. This got heavy in here. This got heavy quick. Me with the with the non-K Fabancer. Yeah, they're cool.

I like those guys. Fuck them, man. The North suck. The North suck and Canada sucks. Yeah, North sucks. There you go. There you go. I think I like that, Ethan Page.

I think he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a very hell of a talent. I like the way he makes his YouTube videos too. Yes. I think there are two very talented brothers that are finally getting, I hope that can get a chance to be seen by a lot of people. Have you guys always had this entrepreneurial tendency? Like even before you were wrestlers, were you shoveling people's driveways, cutting people's lawn? Obviously, that's a thing you do in Canada. But did you, did you have this, you know, like,

mentality or did you just getting released from WWE? You go, all right, we're going to start to make this thing a thing. Gallows, Gallows taught me a lot in that front. Because he was always hustling this and now when he'd left WW before, he left TNA before. He came to New Japan with a different mindset that I think put a lot of us in that same mindset. Me and Rocky always talked about starting a business together and just always thought

about doing starting a beer. We always wanted to start a podcast. well, once the podcast got hot, then we did. Me and Rocky's first podcast, talking shop first podcast ever was just me and rock because we just thought it would be just something that we knew. Gallows was our guest.

Yeah, he was our first guest. Yeah, he was the guest that never left, guys. Yeah, he was the guest. Well, I didn't know how, you know, how, I knew he was a good dude and, you know, somewhat funny, but I didn't know he was, he could make me be, he could make me laugh that hard because not many people can. And then like when I started seeing off, yes,

He never, yes, he came on Talking Shop and never left. Ended up just taking it over. Well, he ended up wanting to turn it into, you know, yeah, exactly. Well, you'll see, you'll see what the name of Talking Shop Mania 2 is. There's a reason why the torturer is so famous in our world. Because the torturer, the torturer, yeah, the torturer is built on a, on a legit story. Like, Gallows was in a bad mood, didn't want to come do the podcast. I say, can you please do the podcast?

He comes and sits down and goes, all right, well, let's start. And I was like, oh, God, here it's great. You know, like this three of me, the three of us are sitting in there. And I go, well, do you not want to do the podcast? And this is live now. And he goes, no, we're not live, but, you know, we're recording it. And he goes, no, I don't want to do this podcast. I'm leaving this stupid podcast.

I'm starting my own. And I said, oh, yeah, what's it called? He goes, well, it's called cock torturers. And I said, what are you going to do? And he explained this whole entire thing. And by the time he's done explaining what his stupid podcast was, we were fucking falling over laughing. Like, that's how we started all this.

Look at you now. Look at us now. The rise of the cock torture or the rise of the torture. I can't believe we're putting that on worldwide pay-per-view. It's unbelievable. Yeah, but I think that we always had us with manure thoughts. You know, that's all we ever really wanted to do. And I think when we went to DeW.E, we kind of, you're just kind of in there.

And that's the machine that is you just, they tell you what, to do you go. They tell you where to go, you go. And so we kind of lost a little bit of our sense there. And then now that we left, we knew we had to start hustling again. And then a pandemic hits. And then we, then we get to create talking chopomanias. And it's almost like it was all meant to be. Right. I feel like there should be like how many, how many talking chopomanias a year could there be? 80, 90s, 200. Who knows? I just know that it's, it's a lot more, it's a lot more. It's a lot more fun and rewarding to not be a spoke in the wheel and be the entire wheel. And we're experiencing that. And I think that we're enjoying the hell out of it and the creative expression, freedom,

all that stuff. Because I don't know if anybody's as weird as us in all the professional wrestling. And you'll see that come to fruition and talk in Choppedamania too because it's pretty out there. But, you know, I think if we were still spokes in the wheel, you may have never seen that with us. I mean, who knows? Maybe we would have retired at WWE or something. And all this ridiculously what I consider awesome content would never get created. So it's a, it's a blessing. It's a good thing. No, the genius that is talking chopomania may never have been birthed. You know, the COVID. I mean, yeah, think about it. 100%. I mean, the main event of talking shoppingania, too, that we put out, that are putting out there is a ball versus ball match. And whoever, and it's, it's

sex versus Chad too bad. Ball for ball. Yeah. So it's whoever cuts the other person's ball sack off. Well, they win. Well, they're the winner. Well, we were doing, like, I don't. You can't hear him. What's he saying? Whatever was. It was probably funny.

He's a robot. But, like, for, I got, here's a funny thing. Like, for example, like, some of the best stuff we do, like with the Chico and Chabbo and sex versus too bad. We just are just our running commentary that we're doing, that just talking during the matches, I think a lot of the fans like that. Like, I mean, at one point, I think I said, I'm going to rip your balls off and I'm going to take a big bite out of them. He said, don't you dare bite them. That's the kind of, that's the kind of shit you're going to be here, you know? Right.

But that was my favorite part of Talk at Chapmania One was the, the Bono Yard match. And just the dialogue back and forth between, you know, Chad Too Bad and Sex Ferguson is my favorite part because there's so many like quotable one-liners like a Will Ferrell movie. It's like, it's like my favorite part. And a lot of fans after we're just hitting each one liner and just putting talking choppanania, you know, like the hashtag and then just like just laughing, you know, laughing so much. Yeah, that's my favorite part. So Gallows is home now. Great. A Wi-Fi is about to kick up now.

Hey, welcome. Here we go. Here we go. Door slamming. Oh, we can finally see him. Yes. Hey, here we are. Should I keep the sunglasses on in my own home, maybe?

Yes. I mean, yeah, live together. Do whatever you want, brother. Who is the dream opponent, dream guest for a future talking Chopinia? Oh, I think we have to go bigger and go home. I mean, we want Stone Cold, the Rock, Goldberg, all of them, you know, whoever we should get. I cannot wait until, like, all the three of us can fly back to Tokyo again and, like, sit in the Tokyo Dome Hotel

and just have our podcasting together and, like, have a couple drinks and just bullshit. And that's like the foundation of what we did. And with us, we don't care who's on it at that point. If we can just get to Tokyo and if say Chris Jericho is there, I think that'd be great to have a drunk and talk with Chris there. This was something. I think our biggest, funnest setting would be able to get back to Japan and do a couple live ones. Like for talking shopomania, imagine someone like a stone cold Steve Austin.

Oh, yeah. Well, like, you got to realize, too, like we, talking Choppa Mania, the first one, there's a lot of guys that are like our buddies, our generation, you know, that we've known for a long time, like the Brian Myers and the heats and the guys like that. And they're all in. They've sat in hotel rooms with us when we're getting beer drunk and listen to the dumb things we say. But imagine a guy who's like, you know, from the generation you grew up watching who like, you know, I've known Scott Steiner for years. I've worked with him. But imagine us. explaining to Scott Siner in my front yard at midnight that we're going to try to rip each other's nutsacks off and we need him to have a serious cameo during this match and his response and what his faces. Part of the fun of all this is that kind of shit because where else on earth would this ever take place other than in the talking shopper mania universe? I'll tell you one guy who just loved every second of it was Vincent. He loved every single second of it and was so much where he was talking to himself off to the side going,

God damn, that shit's funny. This is my type of humor. This is my type of humor. He was talking to himself. He had a whole conversation with himself, and I was just watching him going, I guess this is good. I don't know.

I will say, he was one of the way. He definitely popped when I said, I was ripped gallows his balls off and drop an elbow on him or something like that. I remember Vincent, just like thinking that it was fucking hilarious. Well, we got an audience of one at least. Yeah.

Yeah. That's all you do. I don't. I can't imagine. he's going to spend the 1499 to buy it. Well, he also should step on my nuts at one point. So, you know. No.

Yeah. Well, that was a spot, Chris. I can't believe that I made it into the trailer. Like, that was mind-blowing to me. That was important. That was important. That was important. Yeah.

We needed a good looking brother in there for us. Yeah. That's what you are. You are our face. We need some eye candy, brother. I'm going to be honest, I haven't worn a suit since like maybe January. Oh, yeah, I bet. And in May, when the gym started to open back up again, I got really inspired by Will Osprey

because he's balked up. He's put on so much size, right? Like, he used to be so skinny and now he's jazz. Yeah, it looks great. He does. So I'm like, well, what did you do? And he gave me his meal plan. So I started bulking up as well.

And I put on like 20 pounds of mass. Oh, yeah. In like, I don't know, 12 weeks. And then I went to put that suit. on. And when I tried to button it up at the bottom, it barely fit. And did you still have abs during this bulk, Chris? Of course. Of course. No, no. I'm no. No joke. When I started losing my abs, I'm like, balk's over. That's it. And you know exactly what I'm talking about, Carl.

Trust me. It's a, it's a horrific constant battle. As soon as I started getting a little smooth, I'm like, that's it. No more. Well, that's, that was a problem. You just got to live a smooth life like I do. Man, I hate guys with abs, man. That's the problem. Sometimes when I see this, when the smoothness comes back in, I go, I'll fuck it. And so I forget, I just forget, I let it go for like two or three weeks or a month or whatever. Because it's really got to really dial it back in, you know. But it's also interesting because if you get to the point where you're ripped with abs,

you look kind of skinny with clothes on. And, you know, you guys work in a profession where you have your shirt off frequently. I don't. Maybe I should change that. Maybe I should just be a podcast with no shirt on. Listen, if George North can be a wrestler, you can too. So you know what? If you want to get booked, we'll train you.

I think those days might be behind me. You're just booked for a match, brother. Don't worry. I don't know. I think I did train 17 years ago. I trained at the squared circle in Toronto. And then I got to a point. Do I keep doing wrestling school or do I continue with school school?

Because I was in college at the time. I'm like, yeah, you know what? I'll get my education. I'll get my degree. Wrestling will always be there. And now I just kind of get to dip my toe into this world, which is great. It's like nature boy. It's the best of both worlds.

Nature boy, nature boy Pauli versus George North, right? During the match, I look at Rocky and I go, I look at my partners. I go, hold on, is George North even trained to do this? I think Gallas goes, yeah, I think so. And, I don't know. Because you've got to be trained to be a wrestler.

I never took that into consideration. He might be. I don't know. We didn't really check credentials, I guess, on the way in. Yeah, well, you just booked them. You want to have a match. Oh, he looks funny. Put him on.

That's not the answer you want to hear. I think so. Oh, shit. Maybe. But there's a whole spec. Nature boy, Paulie v. George North is hilarious. Like, Rory Fox, man. Like, dude, he's got.

You know what I'm just. You know what I just thought of? There were actually three factions that debuted in Taco Choppedomania, too. Maybe in a faction, man, I appreciate that. I mean, three heavy-hitting factions. You're talking about the main-in-h? Oh, yeah, yeah. The main event faction.

The main event-man faction. Retro-poopsion, and then the one based around the North Lee match. Retro-poopion. Retro-poption is a hell of a fact. And I guess they fart and stuff when they die. I don't know if we're trying to. I don't know if we explain that well. We just kind of.

I don't think we need to. I don't think we need to. Sex is fighting them off. And he's like, he keeps making comments about the smell of shit, which I don't know. I'm fascinated by, I'm fascinated by machine guns closet here.

Because are those jeans behind you on the shelf? Yeah, they are. Why don't you hang them up? Is that the better way to do it? So, Marie Kondo way. This is the, this is a wife thing, man. She's a, she's a gene folder. Okay.

Because I, if it was my place, jeans wouldn't be folded. They just would be thrown somewhere. Right. This hot Asian wife. A gene pile. Yeah, there'd be a gene pile of if they're dirty or not, who cares, genes can always be clean. Here they are.

Marie, Maree condo rolls. them and then she puts them in a basket. Really, see? There's different ways. I don't know about that. Look, what you guys have built over these last six months is nothing short of amazing.

And I think just within the wrestling world, but beyond it, it's exciting to know that this is possible. And it's exciting to know for anybody that's listening that has an interest in whatever it is, it's possible to go out and build this brand and build something for yourself. You can have a pay-per-view

and you can make it about anything you want and just get get the connections with the pay-per-view companies somehow, some way, and then just say, well, I'm running the show. Cold calls. Yeah, and then just say you run into the show of some sort, and it was mildly successful. The funny thing is they, when we started talking to the pay-per-view companies, I thought that they were just like, what? Like, what are you guys going to do?

They had no idea. And then they were just so surprised, like, that they couldn't stop telling everybody about how successful we were, we were like, stop telling people that because they're going to want more money. Stop saying that we did good. You got to be quiet about that, guys. Come on, yes. Take it easy.

Let's hope the buy rates for number two are that much more than number one. We hope so. We hope so. Yeah, I hope so because I want to bring you guys talking Chappelamabamania 3, and I hope there can be a lot of audience. It's just that, like, if you're ready to sit and laugh, dude, like, and have a beer, drink some wine, smoke some CBD oil, whatever you do, just do it and, like, sit back at 10 o'clock.

It starts at 10. We want a little later start. so you can be all brothered up. Just brother yourself up and enjoy it. Just enjoy it because I promise you're going to laugh, man. Like the first match has me had me in tears, man, crying. Fucking crying. And I've already seen this.

And I've already, I know that it was, I shouldn't be laughing that hard at it. So somebody has to smile. Friday, November 13th on worldwide pay-per-view and Fight TV. It's talking. Absolutely. It's only 1499 too. So it's not an expensive investment in,

into having a night with your friends and watching and discussing it and and tweeting about it. And hopefully I feel like if we can get this thing trending again and get it on the board, I think it'll definitely help us to get together to try to bring Talk and Shopping Mania 3. Hopefully will be the live version. Oh, maybe Mania weekend. I don't know by just throwing it out there. Oh, it's going to be great. Let's get Gallows out of here on time because he has another interview to promote.

another interview, brother. That is talking shopping mania too. And he's doing this one from the comfort of his home with Wi-Fi, unlike the interview that we just did here. Of course. Chris, thanks for having us, man.

Let's do Target Shop again, please. Oh, my gosh. Thank you guys so much. You've been so kind to me. And we want to get you all T-DOT up again. That was kind of fun.

That was so much fun. That was fun. Yeah, we didn't do another one. I got a lot more drunk than I expected to get. Uncle, Uncle Tito will sneak up on you, trust me. He's not kind.

He's serious. No. No, no, no. Well, thank you so much, guys. Seriously, congrats on everything that you built. Thanks, brother. Thanks for having us.

We'll definitely talk soon. Thanks for having us. Thank you for letting me be an honorary good brother. Oh, you are. Always. Thank you, guys. See you, baby. Appreciate you, Chris.

Thanks, man. Those guys. Man, those guys are awesome. I hope you enjoyed hanging out with us. here and of course wherever you're listening to this, you can also listen to their podcast, Talk & Shop. And I feel like this was just a little, just a little taste, just a little taste of what you'll expect to hear on the Talk and Shop podcast if you've never checked it out before. Take a screenshot, tag us so we can share this. And I hope you share this with someone who needs a

laugh today. And speaking of laughs, whether you're listening to this before or after Talking Shopomania 2 has aired, make sure to go check it out. Whether that's you ordering this right now and watching it as it airs on Friday night or going back and checking it out and going, this is so ridiculously awesome, because that's exactly what it is. And you know, the thing that really stands out for me after talking to these guys and really after talking to any successful person, anyone who's had any sort of success in whatever line of work it is that they do, it's that they dream big. They don't limit themselves to what's possible. I love that these guys were like, yeah, let's do a pay-per-view.

We'll figure out the details later, but we're going to do a pay-per-view. And I think the whole idea of dreaming big is just a life-changing idea. Ralph Waldo Emerson says it best. We'll leave you with this quote. Do not go where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. Go leave a trail in your own life. Be great.

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