Insight with Chris Van Vliet - How Stem Cell Treatments Are Changing Wrestling And Sports With BioXcellerator CEO & Founder Eric Stoffers

Episode Date: July 1, 2022

Eric Stoffers is the CEO and Founder of BioXcellerator (@bioxcellerator). He joins Chris Van Vliet to explain exactly what stem cell therapy is and how it works, why athletes like Kevin Nash, Brian Cage, Bobby Lashley, Rey Mysterio, Frank Mir and hundreds of others have received treatment with them, what kind of results you can expect, what the future of medicine holds and much more! For more information on BioXcellerator visit: http://bioxcellerator.com If you enjoyed this episode, could I ask you to please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcast/iTunes? It takes less than a minute and makes a huge difference in helping to spread the word about the show and also to convince some hard-to-get guests. For more information about Chris and INSIGHT go to: https://podcast.chrisvanvliet.com Follow CVV on social media:  Instagram: instagram.com/ChrisVanVliet Twitter: twitter.com/ChrisVanVliet Facebook: facebook.com/ChrisVanVliet YouTube: youtube.com/ChrisVanVliet TikTok: tiktok.com/@Chris.VanVliet Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

All systems are going. Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Van Bleed! All right, here we go back with you on another audio adventure here on Insight. I'm Chris Van Fleet, and I think if you've been listening to this show long enough, you know that I'm fascinated by the idea of getting better both mentally and physically. We talked to a lot of people on the show about how to work out better, how to sleep better, tips for your morning routine, how to diet, how to put on muscle, and over the last few years, I've been hearing about so many people, athletes in particular,

getting stem cell treatments and therapies and their recovery just being through the roof. And I've actually seen a lot of the previous guests on the show like Ken Shamrock, Brian Cage, Melissa Santos, Frank Mear, Kurt Engel, and then other people who I haven't interviewed, I mean, I haven't interviewed them at least not yet, like Tiger Woods, Connor McGregor, Steph Curry, A-Rod, all these people who've had amazing results with stem cells. So I wanted to learn more, which leads us to right now. I went straight to the source. I had a chance to sit down with Eric Stauffer, the CEO and founder of Bioaccelerator,

to find out exactly what it is, how it works, and how it's been able to speed up the healing process for so many people. You can find out more at their website, Bioaccelerator.com. That's B-E-I-O-X-E-L-L-E-R-A-T-O-R dot com, bioaccelerator.com. But I think, I mean, I asked as many questions as I could think of to really break this down. But I hope you enjoy this conversation. Please welcome Eric Stauffer's. Well, Eric, thank you so much for taking the time. Absolutely. Thanks for having me.

Yeah, of course. I think I first found out about Bio-Ccelerator. I think it was through Kevin Nash. And then I kind of went down the rabbit hole and I'm like, wow, you guys have provided stem cell therapy for a lot. I'm a big wrestling fan. So for a lot of people. This is my short list. I'm just, just a few names, but Bobby Lashley, Ray Mysterio, Brian Cage, Kerrangle, Frank Mir.

And I'm leaving off, you know, dozens of other people. But you've really made some massive improvements for those guys. Yeah, you know, it turns out, you know, I haven't been a wrestling fan since I was a younger kid. but now we treat some of the best wrestlers like Bobby Lashley, the current belt holder and some of the guys that you mentioned. But what I was going to say is it turns out that they are probably the most elite athletes of all. And Kevin Nash says it in his testimonial video for our company, which he was so graceful to do for us. But he said, you know, going out there and being a wrestler is like getting into 100 car wrecks every single day, not just every week, but every single day. So their bodies go through just incredible feats of strength and also trauma.

So, yeah, they are some of our most difficult patients, but we're super happy to be showing them great results also. So let's break this down. How exactly does this work? Well, so the stem cells are the cells in your body that are inherently able to continuously divide over time. But just like everything else in life, but certainly in humanity, when you get older things, just kind of slow down a little bit.

stem cells do the same. They don't divide nearly as rapidly. And so they're not able to heal yourself, you know, nearly as well as you could when you were younger. So the stem cells that we use are mesenchymal stem cells from the umbilical cord. One thing, Chris, that I like to point out is that this is not the controversial. This is not the embryonic stem cells that you might have heard about on the news. So there's really no controversy here. We take a healthy mom and a healthy baby, and they go home and live healthy lives together. But then the mom or the family decide to donate the umbilical cord to great scientific companies like ours.

And with that one court, we can potentially help thousands of people that are suffering from chronic pain or maybe even autoimmune disease. And we're able to take those stem cells and help multiply them essentially to help your own bodies amplify ability to fight disease and repair itself. So I think the big question for a lot of people is, Why are you guys based in Colombia? Why can't we do that here in the U.S.? Yeah, unfortunately, the highest level science has progressed so quickly that the FDA and the

regulators at the Health and Human Services Department have really just not caught up with how quickly the technology has advanced. And so some of the language in the FDA is just, you know, we would consider to be antiquated. And when they catch up, you know, we're hoping we're able to produce and administer the science here in the U.S. But right now there are other countries that have just kept up with the progression of technology. So we have to go offshore. There's companies or there's countries like Colombia and then there's some other countries that are very progressive in Southeast Asia as well.

But so our clinic is in Medellin, Colombia. So who's the typical patient? I mean, I listed off the top of the top when it comes to UFC and WWE, but who's your typical patient? Well, so look, we're very fortunate to have guys like Kevin Nash and Bobby Lashley and, you know, really anybody in the UFC that, you know, is fighting for a title or has a title, they've been to our clinic. Lots of high-impact sports like the NFL. So, again, we're very fortunate to have athletes that have, you know, graciously done testimonials for us and come to our clinic. But really, it's the everyday guy that's guy or gal that's getting, you know, a little bit up there in age. and they really just, they want to live a better, stronger, more fulfilling life out of pain. And then we also have a lot of people that are suffering from rare autoimmune disease or even

neurological conditions. So everyday folks are the majority of our patients. But yeah, professional athletes that have to depend on their bodies to be in peak performance, those are definitely our patients on a consistent basis. So if someone comes in and let's say they've got an issue with their shoulder and an issue with their back, is this a spot? treatment? It is. Yeah. So now it depends on which patient you're talking about, but with the exact example that you gave, what we would do in a intraarticular or intramuscular injection into the shoulder area, depending on which tendons or ligaments or torn or, you know, had trauma, some type of trauma. And then as far as the back is concerned, we are really one of the only clinics that I know of

that actually injects and addresses spine and disc issues. So we inject directly into the disc and facets, as well as even more major spinal cord injuries. We have quadriplegics and paraplegics and the most severe spinal cord injuries as well. So do you think we're ever going to get to a point where like this is just, you know, maybe it's 20 years, maybe it's 120 years from now

where this is just a normal procedure for anybody? Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't be in the business. I'm an entrepreneur, not a doctor, not a not a scientist. And so I'm a business guy and I wouldn't have gotten into this business if I didn't really believe that not only does the technology work, but it should be a shift, a real paradigm shift in the way that we treat the human condition in the sense that, you know, as incredible as surgery and drugs are, I think sometimes, they are not only over-prescribed, but prescribed in the wrong direction, meaning they're prescribed first sometimes. You know, we're talking about the most invasive surgeries are the first thing that doctors are taught to go to when really they could be the last line of defense, not the first. Things like stem cell therapy and regenerative medicine help get to the systemic cause and help your own body regenerate and repair, just like you do when you're younger, that's not a problem.

So it should be the first line of defense, and I do believe that's going to be a shift that we've seen even pick up because of COVID. So I'm neither a doctor nor a scientist, if you can believe that. So if we were to go inside the body as the therapy is happening, what's actually going on inside your body? Well, so inflammation is the first thing. That's the first key that your body signals,

that there's essentially something wrong. And, again, not being a doctor or scientist, I described this in very layperson terms. Please, that's what we're here for. Okay, perfect, perfect. So inflammation is your body's way of signaling your stem cells or other cellular vesicles, extracellular vesicles like exosomes or cytokines

to start performing repair. Now, they perform the specific type of repair that is signaled by the stem cell. But this inflammation is the first thing that mesenchymal stem cells are attracted to. So they rush to the place of inflammation and they start going to work and they start repairing. So these stem cells promote healing. They reduce inflammation. And then they amplify your body's ability to fight disease.

And really that's the essence of what we do. But we help multiply that by hundreds of millions of times more potent than your body is able to do. What are some of it, it doesn't have to be an athlete or a celebrity or anybody we know, but what would you say have been some of the biggest success stories? Yeah, obviously the athletes that have major injuries like Chris Wyden, he was a former champion in the UFC, had this incredible and, you know, very highly publicized, tibia fibbia break during one of his fights. You know, he's come to us and now he, obviously, stem cells do not repair the bone.

he had to have surgery. But he's basically getting back into the ring just over a year after that major injury, which in a lot of cases, doctors probably told him that he would never be in the ring again. And so stem cells helped promote that healing and get him back in the ring faster. But I wouldn't say those guys are my favorite stories. My favorite stories are the quadriplegics and the paraplegics that have these major spinal cord injuries and, you know, have come to us in this condition. where, you know, they're a normal functioning person like you and I, and then immediately the next day after this trauma are left without the movement of their legs and their arms. And even worse for them, a lot of times, and this is their words, not mine, but the loss of control of their bowels and their bladder does not allow them a very dignified way to live.

So my favorite stories are looking at guys like Dustin Bunch, who is a former firefighter in California, who came to us. as a quadriplegic and after several, several therapies with us, which is part of the protocol, he's now able to move his hands so he can control his wheelchair. Wow. Better for him. He can hold his young daughter again. He can feed himself and he can use the restroom by himself. So that's a complete dignity and different quality of life than somebody that's a complete

quadriplegic. Wow. What about someone with cerebral palsy? Yeah, that's that's a little bit. different. We actually don't treat cerebral palsy. There is some technology out there that is being developed for that. Certainly a much different neurological condition, but that's not something we treat. So where did this journey for you begin? You said, you know, you're not a doctor. So where does this journey begin to where you're at right now? Well, so for me, again, being a business guy, I was, you know,

just fine being in the real estate business. I was to see. of a real estate investment trust. The bigger part of my career was in real estate was not being a CEO. I was working my way through the ranks of being an agent and selling homes and flipping houses. But for me, when I was in the real estate career, I came across this group of scientists that were actually performing some of the research and had remarkable results. And I became enamored and just immersed myself in studying this type of technology and some other alternative technology that our company Bioaccelerator also performs in conjunction and as a complement to stem cell. But for me, when I really became immersed in stem cell and found out how incredible this technology was and how many people we could help, I made a transition away from real estate. And I've always been an entrepreneur.

So this was just another entrepreneurial endeavor. But for me, the real switch was, you know, not just making a good value for our shareholders, but now our stakeholders are our patients and the people that get to help other individuals need a better life. And so that was my transition. Yeah, and like you're seeing like actual physical results of people who are just getting, you know, better after the treatments.

And you give back to veterans, which I love. Yeah. Yeah, the veteran community, you know, they, for us, it's a passion project, as I think I mentioned to you, you know, off air is, you know, the veterans that are serving our great country or serving any country around the world, I believe are an underserved community. And what we found is that, you know, they, the veterans, whether or not they have seen combat or not, they're suffering sometimes on a daily basis, but certainly a weekly basis from multiple, can come back. and we start seeing symptoms that mimic what a lot of our professional athletes in high-impact sports mimic, and that's CTE. We believe that there's a high prevalence of CTE in the veteran community. So we've pioneered a technology and an application that is, it's an intrithical application

that helps stem cells past the blood brain barrier so that we can essentially try to combat or at least slow down the progression of CTE. So it will combat it or slow it down. Is it ever possible to reverse the damage? We don't know. Yeah, the truth is, is it's way too early to tell. CTE is something that is fairly new just in diagnosis. And the problem is you can't really tell if somebody had CTE until post-mortem.

Now we're starting to figure out that some of the symptoms that may mimic PTSD, or some other type of psychological disorders actually may start in CTE. It's way too early to tell whether we can reverse it. But the thought process is the same for neurological conditions, which there have been a lot more studies in traumatic brain injury, where you can't necessarily reverse it, but you can certainly slow down the progression, which allows people to live better and more fruitful lives.

I've been fascinated by all of this since I started reading Tony Robbins new book called Lifeforce. And he has like several chapters on how important stem cell is. And he tells a story in there about how messed up his, I think it was his shoulder. Is that it was his shoulder? And then every, every doctor was telling him he needed surgery. And he ended up getting stem cell and it completely changed his life. So is that, that's pretty typical. That's very typical. Those are the stories that we get to hear. And we're very fortunate to hear these stories, I believe, because it is really life transforming technology that not enough

people know about, but it's very typical. His story is exactly like what we hear every day at our clinic. Wow. So if I'm someone who doesn't have like a major pain in my body, am I still able to get stem cell? Yeah, we have very healthy people come to us all the time because really what we're doing is we're increasing the ability of your own body to help fight disease and we're amplifying the ability to promote healing. And even for healthy people, another thing that, you know, we see a lot of is typically it's celebrities and billionaires and, you know, high net worth individuals that have done this type of research, but they're looking to live longer. And I think we're at the essence, we all want to live longer, but we certainly want to feel better in our older years. And so just a

routine, you know, let's call it a booster shot of stem cells through an intravenous injection, a simple IV gives your body the ability to reduce inflammation and also amplify your own immune system by upregulating or downregulating the immune system. And I think you hit it on the head there. It's about longevity and it's not about living longer. It's about living a better quality of life for longer. That's it. That's 100% in. So it can also like for someone who I'll put in quotations is healthy and doesn't have like a major pain that they're dealing with or chronic pain. Is it something that can also help like your mental capacity? Yeah, we see that a lot.

It depends on the application. You know, as I mentioned earlier with the veterans and some of our high-impact athletes that are trying to combat potential CTE. That application, absolutely, we do believe that they're, at least anecdotally, there has been a lot of reports from our patients that they find this mental clarity that they haven't had in years, this, this, this, that has been lifted, this focus that has been increased. Again, a lot of that is antidotal. Some of that is hard to measure. We do take, you know, take into account some specific testing when we get,

when we get into our neurological conditions, you know, things like stroke and, you know, and other neurological conditions that we have more of a objective baseline test. But yeah, absolutely. Antidotally, we have most of our patients, even through an intravenous injection, say that they found this mental clarity that they haven't had in years. I think a lot of people just, you know, they don't know a lot about this. And I think the question you probably get asked all the time is, well, is this safe? And what's the answer to that? Yeah, there's really no debate in the scientific community. Now, the safety, of course, is the first thing that we have to prove. And that really, that ship has sailed in the scientific community,

meaning that, yes, there are some minor side effects. And let's talk about those minor side effects. There are things like headache and nausea and fatigue. And so things that are, you know, very mild in consideration to, you know, to other symptoms that you might find from a pharmaceutical product, for instance. So the safety is just, it's really incredible on how safe stem cells are. And then, you know, from there, the effectiveness is something that is debatable through, if you're talking about different conditions.

So with the shoulder, no debate. Those are just incredible results. When you're talking about rare diseases that really have no cures, yeah, we're still pretty early on in the science. And so for that, it's experimental. But the safety is just there's no debate in the scientific community. But our company takes it many, many steps further, meaning we exclude anything that is not the most safe,

the most pure, the most highly technical in the quality, and then we're able to manipulate those. So we only use the most pure and safe stem cells. So walk me through what the treatment looks like. How long does it take? What's the recovery like? Tell me all about that. The treatments themselves are mostly non-invasive.

So it's either a simple IV application, as we've made the example here today, the shoulder is something that we treat to a very high degree of efficacy. see that's a simple interarticular injection or intramuscular injection. So, you know, a couple of needle pokes, essentially. So, you know, it doesn't feel great, but it's, you know, for like two seconds and then it's over. What we do see is that there's a little bit of inflammation, depending on how bad the joint is, has been affected prior to the treatment and why they're in there. So our athletes, a lot of times have some inflammation for about 48 hours. So nothing, you know, that they're not used to.

That's typically the worst that we see. But to get back to your question, the treatment for most of our patients, we ask them to be there for five days. So one of the things that we do that I don't believe a lot of other companies do is we complement the stem cell therapy with other alternative therapies

that are things like hyperbaric chamber and bioregulatory and orthomolecular medications and red light therapy or cryosy cryotherapy that we're adding and a whole host of other alternatives. So you'll do those sessions with us leading up into the treatments. So we like our patients to be there for a week. But the truth is, is if you're just getting one shoulder done, it would take a couple of hours and then you'd be out of the clinic. So stem cell therapy aside, I want to talk about longevity. What are you doing in your own personal life to try to extend the quality of your life as long as possible? A lot of

orthomolecular injections, obviously nutraceuticals. The first thing that I believe the American public has to get their mind around is nutrition. And that starts very young. Unfortunately, our society is not a nutrition-first society. Because our clinic is in Colombia, I spend a lot of time in Colombia. And you notice it the minute you hit the airport, the minute you land, in another country, but certainly Columbia is a very healthy country. You can just see it in the body types. We, in America, we don't focus on nutrition. So that's one.

Other alternatives, there are some pretty incredible other alternatives like peptides, you know, like Hyperbaric Chamber, which is fantastic for you, things like Cold Plunge and the Wimhoff method. So a breathing technique. Do that every day. Perfect. Good stuff. I've also been looking into PMF, P.

Matt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really good stuff that clears, you know, that clears a lot of the pathways that are blocked over time. So I believe in that as well. Like what do you think is like something really simple? You know, some of them may not be able to afford stem cell right now, but what's something really simple that they could do to maybe help to improve their quality of life right now? We've already talked about it. Unfortunately, people in America don't like listening to it, but what you put in is essential. So nutrition is burst. But we also, just mentioned the the cold plunge the cold plunge is something that is essentially free you know in most cases you can find some water in a place to dip yourself in it or a cold shower or a cold shower

I mean that that's the closest thing you can get to it so that's a good place to start but it's nutrition exercise cold plunge that's that stuff's all free I think one other thing sleep like I think that not enough people put enough focus on that you know what I'm so glad you brought it up But this is maybe more important than one of the other two or three that we've mentioned in some cases. And it's one of the things that's neglected a lot. And people wear it as a badge of honor when they're neglecting it, which is also another shift I think we should get into. You know, I'm not like, oh, I, I only slept four hours or three hours and I've been working ever since. And that's, that's really not going to be good for you in the long run.

Yeah. And that's not impressive anymore. In fact, you'll even hear like Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk talk about or Gary Vaynerchuk like, no, no, I need my sleep or else I can't do any of the things that I do. Agreed. I was one of the entrepreneurs that, you know, was when starting a company was up in the middle of the night and, you know, thought that getting two or three hours of sleep made me a better leader. And, you know, when I made that shift and made sure that I was getting my seven or eight hours, I became a much better, a much better leader, a much different person, which by the way, that, that shift, came from my first dose of stem cells. About three weeks after my first dose of stem cells,

just in intravenous, I'm a pretty healthy guy, intravenous stem cells. About three weeks later, I just started sleeping through the night like a baby, and I haven't looked back ever since. You know how many people listening to this right now are going, oh my gosh, that's the solution to me sleeping better?

It's a component of it. Yeah, yeah. What does your morning routine look like? I wake up now. It's changed a little bit where I wake up and I focus on trying to learn more Spanish works. So that's the first thing that I do these days. But it's also a cold shower or cold plunge, if I can get to it.

Exercise. And then I also intermittent fast. So typically the only thing that I cheat on there is I'll have a cup of coffee. I try to keep it to one a day. But in Columbia, that's probably like four here. But so I do coffee. I typically don't take in food until the afternoon. And from there, it's regimented.

Right. So where do you see Bioaccelerator going, let's say five years from now? Well, I'm really hoping that we can have a stronger U.S. presence. Now, most of our patients are U.S. citizens. We are a global company, so they've come from all around the world. We have Australians and people from Southeast Asia and Europe. But most of our patients are in the U.S. and I would like to see us have a stronger presence here.

That's entirely up to the FDA, not us, unfortunately. But from the point we are now, we are expanding. We need to have other locations in more strategic areas to service some of our patients that are coming from very, very far away like the UAE in Australia, like I mentioned. But really, we're going to continue to be global leaders in our results and the ability to expand the technology and keep up with the technology because that is changing. So we have a big research department. We're innovating on the technology side.

And we're also able to apply that in real life and help patients every single day. So that's where we're going. I love it. So if someone has had treatment, is it one treatment and you're good or is it multiple treatments to get to where you want to be at? In some cases, so we have to take that question from a patient by patient, individual standpoint. Because some patients come to us and they're a little bit more advanced in the years and they've had maybe a rare disease for many, many, many years.

And really, there might not be a lot of hope of reversing that disease because we haven't caught it early on, but they're hoping to alleviate the symptoms or reduce the symptoms. And that might take multiple treatments for somebody like that. Now, if you're taking a younger guy like yourself that's healthy, as you've mentioned, and you might just have like a little shoulder injury and you're not out there, you know, being a professional and re-injuring it every day. That might be a one treatment, one and done treatment. So it really is case by case.

Would it stop clicking? It clicks all the time. You'd have to talk to one of our physicians on that one. They definitely give you a better. Every time I do anything like rotating, I'm like, what is that noise? Geez. I've had a lot of your patients on the show. Kurt Angle, Frank Meir was on my show recently.

He's coming back on the show in a few words. week. So I'm excited to kind of do like a follow-up interview and kind of be like, hey, where are things at now two years later? Excellent. Look, I'd love to get on and talk about the follow-ups because really that's what people care about is it does this really work. Are the results really there? And so those are some of the most fun conversations to have. I was just with Frank in LA a couple months ago. So tell him, we said hi, but he's he's been having some great results. And I know he's coming back with his daughter. very soon as well. So maybe that's a good conversation to get into with him. Yeah, I love it. I've been so interested in this. I'm so glad that I was able to pick your brain about everything that bioaccelerator's been able to do. If people want to find out more, I feel like we covered a lot of things, but if they want to find out more, what's the best way to find out more about you? Well, obviously, our website is a good place to get some basic information. We're at bioacceler.com.

It's B-I-O-X-C-E-L-E-R-A-T-O-R-A-T-O-R. So, Bioaccelerator.com, but really if you're looking for real stories, real patient testimonials, the people that would really, you know, tell you what you want to hear about your specific disease or condition, go to our YouTube channel or maybe follow us on social media, Instagram, or one of the others, and that'll give you a good idea of who we are, not just the people that we help, but who we are as individuals, too. You'll see some of our staff interactions, and we really are a family. type group. Love it. So I end every conversation with gratitude, which is one of my morning practices.

So I ask all my guests, what are three things they're grateful for? So what are three things in your life you're grateful for right now? I love that. So I'm so glad that you asked. One of the things that I do in our administration meetings is I start off the meeting by showing gratitude. And it's not just people within the organization, but more importantly, people outside of the organization. So I'm going to start with being grateful for the people in my organization. As I was just mentioning, we really do consider ourselves somewhat of a family. Sometimes we spend more time with each other than we're able to with the people that we love the most. So I can't be more grateful for the individuals that I work with. They are the brilliance of the company. They're certainly great representatives of the technology,

but they're the people that have catapulted at this company to where we are. So without naming specific names because I'd be here for an hour. The people that I work with are the most brilliant people ever. And if I have to go two more, I'll go. Certainly, my parents for giving me the ability to think outside of the box and giving me the latitude to go and pursue my dreams at every stage of life. And lastly, I would say, let's go with great people like that. you, people like you that have the wherewithal and the interest to talk about a subject that in some cases is controversial. Again, it shouldn't be, but it's also giving, you know, people like me, the platform to potentially help other people and not getting bogged down in what

the pharmaceutical companies or even great doctors will tell you is the future of science. It's happening right now. So thank you for letting me get the word out. Thank you, Eric. I'm just genuinely curious by nature, and I've always wanted to know more, so I'm glad that we were able to do this. So I super appreciate your time today. I agree. I appreciate, I reciprocate. Thank you. I appreciate you. Have a new. There we go. Fascinating stuff. Big thank you to Eric for joining us on this one. So, so interesting. And I referenced it during our conversation, but Tony Robbins' new book called Lifeforce is such a game changer. and really makes you realize how much is truly possible.

Check out Bioaccelerator on social media. It's just at Bioaccelerator on Twitter, at Bioaccelerator underscore on Instagram, and their website is bioaccelerator.com. I'll leave you with a quote that I think's pretty appropriate for this conversation. It's from Soren Kierkegaard. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. I guess that can apply to a lot of different things in our life.

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