Insight with Chris Van Vliet - Jake Roberts: Signing with AEW, getting bit by snakes, favorite promo of all time, DDP, Lance Archer

Episode Date: September 3, 2020

Jake "The Snake" Roberts sits down with Chris Van Vliet for a live interview at the Independent Wrestling Expo put on by Fighting Words Promotions in North Richland Hills, TX. He is the master of telling stories and in this interview he talks about how his contract with AEW came together, being a manager for Lance Archer, how DDP saved his life, beating addiction, his favorite promo of all time, the inspiration for his promos, his new book, some crazy snake stories and so much more!  Support The CVV Show by supporting our sponsors!DOOR DASH - Get $5 and zero delivery fees on your first order of $15 or more when you download the Door Dash app and use the promo code BLUEWIRE  DIRECTV NFL SUNDAY TICKET- Use the promo code BLUEWIRE to get 15% off your subscription this season at https://NFLSundayTicket.tv BETONLINE- Head to https://betonline.ag and use the promo code BLUEWIRE for your free welcome bonus! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yeah, welcome back to another audio adventure on the Chris Van Vleet Show. Yeah, this episode is brought to you by DoorDash, NFL Sunday ticket, and Bet Online. And not only was this conversation with Jake the Snake Roberts incredibly cool, but for the first time in many months, for the first time since that chat I had with Greg Hamilton, This was in person. And not only was it in person, but it was in front of a live crowd at the Independent Wrestling

Expo. This was put on by Fighting Words Promotions in North Richland Hills, Texas this past weekend. What a great event. The card was absolutely stacked. Nick Aldous, EC3, Thunderosa, Brian Cage, Jordan Grace,

Lance Archer, Alex Hammerstone, Jazz, Gangrel, Brian Pilman, Jr. Sean Spears, I'm leaving off so many names here, but I mean, you could just tell from that list. This thing was beyond stack, top to bottom. And I had the pleasure of doing three live interviews in front of the crowd, which always adds such a nice component to these. I mean, really brings the energy up. So you'll hear some laughter. You'll hear some cheering. We had a little

Q&A at the end. So it was so great. So this is number one of the three we did. This is Jake Roberts, obviously. The other two are with jazz and with gangrel. So keep an eye out for those in the next few weeks. Just so what a great event, but so cool to be able to watch wrestling live. And they took so many precautions to make sure that everything was completely safe and healthy. So my hat's off to them. Fighting Words Promotions, thank you for putting on such a great show. Now, look, I don't ask for a lot, but I'm kindly asking you if you, if you're you could subscribe to the show or follow on whatever platform it is that you're listening on. And thank you for keeping these reviews coming in. I said early on when we started this show that I would read one out on every single episode until we got to 1,000 reviews. And I'll be honest, we got to 1,000 reviews like a lot quicker than I assumed. So thank you. So let's get to 2000 now. At last count, we have 1,159. So 1159. Let's get to 2000. let's do it it'd be great you know you don't have to pay for a shadow just leave a review it's that simple

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Well, thank you, Emmett. I'm not quite sure. I've been a broadcaster my whole career. I'm not quite sure what good mic technique is. But whatever it is that I'm doing, I will continue doing it. So thank you for that. So Jake the Snake Roberts is one of the all-time greats. I mean, what an obvious statement to say.

But it's crazy to me that he never won a single title in his entire WWE career. We talk about that. He says he didn't need a title to get over. I mean, he's right. He talks about how he got signed with AEW, how he got paired with managing Lance Archer. He tells us some pretty crazy. crazy snake stories, and he opens up about how DDP saved his life. Ah, that's a good one.

Real good. So here we go. In front of a live audience, Jake the Snake Roberts. All right, well, please put your hands together for Jake, the Snake Roberts. Bada Bing. I'm wearing the masks so that people can see your lovely face. Oh, wow. What a wild time to be alive, right?

Hey, piece the options. You know? Did you ever think that in 2020, you'd be signed full-time to a wrestling company? No. Surprise I've lasted this long, actually. You know, I just, at some point in your life, you decide you want to do things that make you happy. And I was okay with that, but sometimes I say the wrong things because I feel that way. but I've realized that at the end of the day,

I want to be able to look in the mirror and say, I like that guy, you know? And if it means that I can't work for Vince, that's fine. I'm very good with that. I don't need to be around him, and he doesn't need to be around me. It's just the way it is. So I'm very, very happy.

I feel very fortunate. I've been blessed. And I got a pretty good guy to run with. Yeah, you do. When you look in the mirror now, do you like this guy? Oh, yeah. Good, good. I'm so happy.

I was a chick, I'd do me. Actually, I'm thinking about doing it anyway. So you're running with Lance Archer now. Yeah. How'd they get you paired up with Lance? A phone call, man. They came with the idea, and they asked me if I'd be interested. And I said, well, sure.

And they wanted me for 10 weeks. And then after that 10 weeks was up, they just said, please stay. Okay. You know, and it was just great timing. Because had the virus not been going on, I'd have been out doing my shows all the time, and I wouldn't have had time to do them. Yeah. So now it's worked out to where I can do both.

Right. And I'm hopeful, real hopeful that I'll be able to start doing my comedy shows again come like November, December. Right. And I got a book coming out real soon. So, yeah. That's great. When are you checking the book to come out?

The next six weeks. Oh, wow. What's it called? I haven't named it yet. Okay. Well, we'll find out in six weeks, then. Yeah, absolutely. When you say that you can't work for Vince again, is that because you're with AEW?

No. No, I just. I mean, you have the WWE Hall of Fame ring as you hold this mic. So obviously things... Obviously, yes. Yes, sir, you did.

But obviously... There's a lot of people in there that didn't earn those rings. More applause for that. But things must have been okay with Vince or okay enough with him to be in the Hall of Fame. Well, he done it because it was the right thing,

the smart thing. You know, don't kid yourself. the reason that they still have toys being made of me is because they still sell. You know, I mean, that probably blows my mind more than anything else that I can go into a Walmart or someplace and there'll be another damn toy being made of me.

Yeah. I'm like, wait a minute. I haven't been on TV in 30 years. What the hell, man? It's just really odd, I think, you know. But I understand it from, from the fans because the talent today, they don't know how to,

they don't know how to get over. And they don't know, wrestling today is all for visual, you know? In my day, it wasn't. It was through the heart. It was emotional. I wanted to hook you up emotionally. And the thing about the difference is,

visual last a split seconds, then the brain wants something fresh. But emotionally, if I hook you one time, I've got you for the rest of your life. Because you'll always go back to that moment. So, hey, man, good for me because they're still selling shit on me that it's kind of freaky. Nobody cut a promo the way that you cut a promo.

Who inspired you, whose style did you? Maybe it's nobody. Oh. Was it? It was an accident. What happened was I was wrestling a guy by the name of Bob Rup, and he dropped the knee in my throat, and it crushed my voice box. So this is as loud as I can go.

If I try to go any louder, nothing comes out. So, and I've always hated those interviews for guys you're screaming. Because number one, if you're screaming at me, I'm turning that shit off. I'm not listening to you. And then I just kind of explored the idea of talking low and whispering because I realized that worked. You know, I mean, if you walk into a crowded room and shout, everybody get on the floor. You, you know, and you walk off.

But if you walk into that same room and you go, I got to tell you something, it's a secret. Everybody in there wants to hear this. Yeah. So I just went with that. And, you know, I love music. So I'd take groups of words off of a song and implement them. Because my thought is if I can say something that you've heard before, you'll be agreeing with it before you know what you're doing.

You know? So I just kind of roll with that, man. And I like to having fun doing them, you know? I mean, I've never considered what I do work. that's the best kind of work because I'd do it for free you know

because I love what I did you know I mean it's just good times it might be hard to narrow it down to just one but do you have a promo

that really stands out for you yes yes it's one where I told the camera ran just to roll it so they said go and I went

the guy's like hey man we can't hear you no shit you know that's the idea so i did it again and then after about 40 seconds i stopped and i went now tell your son that jake roberts can't get you off the couch and make you try to fix a tv that's not even broken don't you feel like a complete idiot tell your son you're not scared of me that's another lie you know and i just and it was fun man and I got so many hate mail letters like I can't believe I got out of my chair to try to fix my damn table

for I'm so sorry you know one of my favorites it's in your Hall of Fame like vignette is mean Jean says to you you are a sick man Jake Roberts and you say thank you very much thank you very much

I can't imagine that was planned out I didn't ever plan an interview. Wow. I had an idea in my mind what I might want to say, but I just went out there and went for it, man. Just let it come out. If you do things naturally, they seem to take on a whole different animal. You know, people can tell when you're forcing an interview.

People can tell when you're reciting an interview, you know. The same way they can tell them. match that's been I never did that. I never practiced. Practice? Fuck you. I don't know how to practice wrestling.

Because, I mean, the idea is your action causes my reaction. That's all I mean. You know, these guys that go out there and they're trying to remember 20 things and they miss one and it just totally messes them up and they don't know what to do then and they don't know what to do anyways what the hell you guys ask me a lot you know what would you do i'll tell you here here it is never destroy your own um oh my god just a second brain fart

I get those. Wow. You got it. I got it. Not momentum. No, no, no, no. Never discredit yourself, never destroy your own. Bada being.

Anyway, this is like this. Let's just say you were married for 20 years and you never messed around on your wife, you know. And that 21st year, Jake Roberts came to town. He took you out. And the next thing you know, you're in bed with. the midget. And you feel so bad the next day that you've cheated on your wife, who you've never done that with, that you have to go and tell her the truth.

During that conversation, you say, now, you know, honey, I've never cheated on you before, but this one time, it happened. And I feel so bad about it. Do you think she believes you? Yeah. Now. Once you destroy your own credibility, you cannot. get that back.

I tell guys, less is more. Because if you do things absolutely perfect, the fans will get behind you. But if it's a little bit off, you're just another phony. And you don't come back. You destroy your own credibility. I mean, that's the reason I know God's not a woman,

because God forgives and forgets. A woman might forgive you. He can forget and shit. You know, it's crazy to look at your career in WWE and think that you never want a championship. Does it bother you at all? No, I never needed one, man. And why do I want to carry a 10-pound belt around two? I got a hundred-pound snake.

I got a trunk. I carry it in. And I got my wrestling gear and my clothes. I can't carry nothing else. some guys need to have a title just to make them a star I was already a star you know I didn't need a title to make my name I did my shit in the ring

yeah so I'd like to have the money that went with it was it it was a different snake every single town you went to No, no, no, no, no. I'd have the same snake ever for 10 days or so, then I'd have to trade them out. Did you ever get a snake that you didn't like and went? When I first went to the WWA, they had me a snake handler.

All I can say about him was he was Charles Manson. Your snake handler was Charles Manson. He was worse than Charles Manson. This guy was really weird. And the snake and, And this thing was going crazy on me and stuff. I'm like, dude, this snake, he's like, don't worry about that one. I got your new one coming.

And I guarantee it's going to get steamboat for you. What? I promise you, it's going to get steamboat. Does he know what steamboat looks like? And think so. So I had to smarten him up that we were actually in business together to have a good match. And that I didn't need a snake attack. in him and killing him.

That and the fact that, wait a minute, I'm the one that has to pick it up. Wait a minute. It's my hotel room. It sleeps in. It's my bathtub. It stays in and night. Like hell it does.

Did the snake ever get out? Oh, yeah. Like into the hotel? Oh, yeah. You guys remember the killer bees? Well, of course, yeah. Jim Brunzel and I shared a room one night,

but he was terrified of the snake. Now, I don't know what happened if I accidentally let the bathroom door open or something. Maybe. Or maybe he left it open. I don't know. No, because he wouldn't even go in there. But during the night, the snake got out and crawled across his face.

And he woke up with it like, crawling across his face. And I had taken some resting pills, some sleeping pills. And Jim could not get me awake. And so I woke up the next morning about 10 o'clock after nine or 10 hours of great sleep and to see Jim Brunzel sitting up on the back of a chair and doing this. I'm like, what are you doing?

He goes, keep an eye. out for that snake. I'm like, oh, where is he? I don't, I can't find this scene anymore. I think he went under the bed and he'll know where he's at. Just throw him in the bathroom. He couldn't do it. That was the last time we split a room. Yeah, I got it. How did you know going into the ring? It was usually a python, right? Yeah. How did you know that everything was going to be fine? I always expected it not to be fine. That way, when it was, it was like, oh, Oh, okay. It was great. I got bit a lot of times. Other people got bit. But they're not venomous at least. No, but I don't care if it's venomous or not. It hurts like hell.

Sure. Do you still have bite marks on you? Oh, yeah. Yeah. These are all... Oh, my gosh. That was a bad one there. That was 30 stitches. Wow. 30 stitches. That snake committed suicide, by the way. You did. I got to the back and I was, bleeding everywhere, man, because it got that vein. Every time my heart would be, you'd shoot about 20 feet. And I picked the snake up, and, man, I don't know, he overpowered me or something,

but he just dove at the wall with his head. You know? And I pulled him back, and he did it again. I pulled him. I did it again. That poor snake. Yeah, until it was flat. I had a snake attacked me in Indianapolis that got around my neck.

And the last thing I remember, it only took. two or three seconds was like car lights were coming at me. Wow. I'm like, what the heck? And then I went down and steamboat took him off of here. I've been dead because the snake was constricting around your neck. People don't understand. It only takes three or four seconds if it's around these veins that cut the blood flow

off to your brain. So. Wow. Yeah, it was interesting because when I came to, I just rolled over and I looked and I seen about that much of the snake still in the ring, and the rest of it was in row one, two, and three. And the people were scattering, and it became a very dangerous moment then

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Which, I mean, that haunted me as a kid. That's... I'm sure to haunted everybody as a kid. Good. Watching... Yeah, good. Thank you. Watching a King cobra attack a man in the room. Yeah. I thought it was a great idea.

You know, you probably heard before the story where Savage made the steak bite me first to make sure it wasn't poisonous. I'm like, so you really think I'm going to bring a poisonous snake in the ring to bite you and kill you so I can be a champion. No, I don't need that. Well, maybe you do, maybe you don't. So I had to let it bite me first in the locker room, so I let it bite me on the leg.

But it did piss me off that he thought that. So when it was time for the snake to bite him, I picked the snake up and turn my back to macho man so he couldn't see what I was doing. I just paintbrushed the hell out of that snake. which now he is hissed off. And he was ready to chew. And he did some good chewing. One of my favorite moments of all time. Did you know in the setup for that segment that WWF's reaction would be putting this red X on the screen?

No, I didn't. Because it was so weird to see that. Yeah, it got out there once or twice, but most of the time they put the red X on there, you know. It took all the fun out of it for me. So that snake was devenomized. Yeah, had the venom sacks removed. The fangs removed? No.

Oh. Cobra's don't have fangs. They have teeth like a fish. You know, it was just spiny teeth. I mean, I used to get back in the days when I was drinking, I'd get drunk in the hotel room, and I'd get bored, and I'd put that cobra on the bed, and it would stand up and hood up, and then I'd hang my arm out there and let him try to bite me. and it was easy to, you know,

like you're playing chicken with a star. Yeah, they're very slow. Cobra's are very slow. A python strikes so fast you can't even see it. A python has fangs about that long. A cobra has nothing. So even if the snake bitch, it didn't hurt. The only thing that freaked you out is when you look down and seen an animal

chewing on you. You know, that kind of, wait a minute, this is right. You know, and that's what freaks you out. savage out because the snake was like, it freaked him out. Freak out. How much of what you have now, you sitting here right now, do you have to

owe to DDP? My life. My life. Oh, yeah. Nobody knows the pain that is involved with addiction. If you haven't been there, you don't know.

You cannot understand it. You cannot get your mind around it. Nobody I've ever met has told me, you know, when I was young, man, my dream was to grow up and become a drug addict and an alcoholic. Nobody dreams that. But it does happen. It can happen quickly. It can happen over time.

But you don't know to you're there. And once you're there, it's too late. It's too late. It took me three years to get sober. I had to live with him. I didn't go anywhere by myself. You know, I quit driving cars for 10 years because me alone with a car is not a good thing. I might just wind up in the wrong place and don't want to do that.

I did that movie or documentary, whatever you want to call it, because I wanted other people to know that you could make it. It's not easy, man. God, it's not easy. It's a lot of suffering, a lot of lonely nights, a lot of hate, a lot of hate. But the only way for recovery to happen is for you to get honest with yourself and talk about where you're at. You know, whether you've been molested as a child like I was,

the only way to make it better is to talk about it, which is something you don't want to do, but you have to. And for other people to have seen that documentary, I've had hundreds of people thank me for doing it, if not thousands. I've had a lot of people come to me and say, man, when I've seen that, that was the last day I drank. And that right there makes me feel good. Because no human beings should ever have to feel the pain that addiction can put on you.

When did Dallas approach you and go, Jake, I think you've got a problem. He never did. He just said, hey, man, do you want to quit? Hell, yeah. But it's never happened before. I've been to free rehabs. I've done all that stuff. It didn't work.

But what worked for me was doing it for a longer period of time, having guidance, having a support team. And by him not giving up on me. Because it wasn't always smooth. There were some bad days. and there were four instances where I went out and drank. Well, most places would have kicked you out, you know. But he just said, just shut up, come back tomorrow. And I'm like, damn, man, aren't you going to give up on me?

You know, no, I'm not giving up. Forget it. Well, hell, man, if you're not going to give up, that takes half the fun of it. So I just stuck with it, man. And now I look back and I just look back and I just, just, oh, my God, I just, oh, it's scary the things that I did, the things that I survived. But again, I just want to help other people that need help. That's exactly what you're doing now.

Yeah, absolutely. How long were you an addict? Well, I still am, but I guess addiction had me probably by the time I was 16. Wow. My grandfather was an alcoholic, hopeless alcoholic. It's in my family jeans and all that stuff. But my brother, Sam Houston's had a hard time. I think he's got 10 DUIs now.

Wow. Yeah. We talked about the influence your promos have had on the world of wrestling. Also, your move set has changed the world of wrestling. DDTs are in almost every match now. Yeah. Which was your finisher. Yeah.

Yeah. Does it, do you think it takes some? with a sting away from your finish? No, no, no. Okay. No, if somebody sees it now, they just say, man, when Jake did it until you didn't get your ass up. That's true.

That's true. You don't get up if I do it. Where did you come up with the idea for it? An accident in the ring. A guy stepped on my foot. We fell backwards, and it was born. Wow. And how'd you come up with the name?

I got up one morning and and it went to eat breakfast, and I got a newspaper from the USA Today. And on the front page it said, U.S. government outlaws DDT. And actually, it was the name of a poison that we used to use on crops and stuff that was getting in our food chain and really bad stuff. But it was diacloramines, methanol, some of the, you know, one of these names, it's about that long. But they just used DDT. I'm like, perfect, that works. Did you make it stand for something ever?

I think a lot of people thought, Oh, they know, Damien's dinner time. That sucks, man. Like I would say that. Well, we're going to take some questions from the fans here. All right, I got a few more minutes for you. So, if you have a question, shoot your hand up. Yeah, bro.

Yes, sir. So I'm going to repeat back in the mic, so everybody can hear. So what advice would you have for somebody going through recovery? Do not give up. If you fall, dust your ass off, get back up, get back in it. And don't listen to your head, you know, because your head will tell you you're not worthy. You're not worth it. You're not going to make it.

You're going to hear all that stuff if you're going through it. But just don't give up. Keep preaching. Keep preaching, man. Don't be ashamed to get help. Yes, man. What's your name? Elizabeth.

Miss Elizabeth. Where did the snake gimmick come from? I've been Jake the snake pretty much since I've started wrestling. So. If your name wasn't Jake, it didn't rhyme with snakes. It'd probably be Billy the Bug.

Or Carl the Cockroach. Cockroach, that's it. Yeah. What do you want, buddy? Oh, what made you want to put the ultimate warrior in that room with all those snakes? Because I know the guy. Thank you, Jayden.

I think that's it, bro. Okay. Give it up, ladies and gentlemen. Thanks, guys. For the legendary, Jake, the snake Roberts. Oh, man, that is, that's an interview that I've wanted to do for such a long time. So a big thank you to Jake for doing that. You'll have to excuse the abrupt ending that we had there.

Jake turned to me and said his throat was hurting and he couldn't talk anymore. But 30 minutes with the legend, with the hollied. of famer Jake the Snake Roberts. And I don't know if there's anybody in the wrestling industry who is a better storyteller than him. And it's so good to see that he's in a good place, so good to see that he's happy, and that he's sober and staying sober. And just my hats off to him for that. And as I was preparing for this interview, I went back and watched a lot of his other promos. And there is nobody that has ever cut a promo in the wrestling industry quite like him. I mean, he still does it. He's still cutting these promos in AEW. It's just he's so, so good. So a big thank you to the

Independent Wrestling Expo in North Richland Hills, Texas. I had such a good time there. Thank you to fighting words promotions for bringing me in to do these live Q&As, these live interviews. And this is number one of three. So Gangrel and Jazz will be coming up in the next few weeks. weeks here, but we've got a ton of interviews. We also have UFC champion, Steve Amy Ocich, Daniel Puter, Billy Kay. So if you haven't subscribed yet, be a pal, be a friend of the show, and join us on this audio adventure. Malcolm S. Forbes says you can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him. And before we go, did somebody say, Playoffs? Oh, the NBA and

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