Insight with Chris Van Vliet - Kelly Kelly Wants To Return To WWE, Becoming A Mom, Royal Rumble Appearance, Divas Champion

Episode Date: April 4, 2024

Barbie Blank (@thebarbieblank) is an actress, model, entrepreneur and retired professional wrestler known as Kelly Kelly in WWE. She joins Chris Van Vliet in Hollywood, CA to talk about recently becoming a mom to twins Jaxon and Brooklyn, getting signed to WWE at 19 years old, her retirement from wrestling at age 25, winning the Divas Championship from Brie Bella, her memories of the late Andrew "Test" Martin, how she inspired Chelsea Green to become a wrestler, tagging with Maria Menounos at WrestleMania 28, her iconic theme song, returning for the Royal Rumble and much more! "Many of life’s failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up." - Thomas A. Edison Sponsors: PRIZEPICKS: Download the app today and use code INSIGHT for a first deposit match up to $100! BABBEL: Learn a new language and get 50% off your lifetime Babbel subscription at http://babbel.com/cvv MAGIC SPOON: Get $5 off with the code CVV at http://magicspoon.com/cvv RHONE: Upgrade your closet with Rhone and use CVV to save 20% at https://www.rhone.com/CVV ROCKET MONEY: Join Rocket Money today and experience financial freedom: https://rocketmoney.com/cvv BETTERHELP: Get 10% off your first month with the code INSIGHT at http://betterhelp.com/insight MUDWTR: Get 15% off with the code CVV15 at http://mudwtr.com/cvv MYBOOKIE: Bet on WWE! Use the code CVV to get a 50% welcome bonus when you sign up at http://mybookie.ag BLUECHEW: Use the code CVV to get your first month of BlueChew for FREE at http://bluechew.com PLUNGE: Get $150 off your Plunge with the coupon code CVV150 at http://plunge.com BONCHARGE: Go to http://boncharge.com/CVV and use coupon code CVV to save 15% on your BONCHARGE Infrared Sauna Blanket! For more information about Chris and INSIGHT go to: https://podcast.chrisvanvliet.com If you enjoyed this episode, could I ask you to please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcast/iTunes? It takes less than a minute and makes a huge difference in helping to spread the word about the show and also to convince some hard-to-get guests.  Follow CVV on social media:  Instagram: instagram.com/ChrisVanVliet Twitter: twitter.com/ChrisVanVliet Facebook: facebook.com/ChrisVanVliet YouTube: youtube.com/ChrisVanVliet TikTok: tiktok.com/@Chris.VanVliet Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris. Okay, my friends, welcome back to another one. Here on Insight, I'm CVV, Chris Van Fleet. How are we doing? How we feeling? Two days until WrestleMania 40. I'm in Philly right now. So if you're also in Philly, I hope that we see each other at some point at some time over the next few days.

I'll be at RussellCon Saturday and Sunday. So if you're going to be there, stop by the Fandu Belt's table. I'll be there with my good buddy, the legendary referee, Mike Kyoto. I'm also going to be at a few different events around town. And yes, of course, I'll be at Lincoln Financial Field on both Saturday and Sunday. So if you're there, I'd love to be able to say hi and chat a little wrestling with you. Can't wait. This right here is one of our most highly requested guests.

And we got her back in the show for the first time since episode number four. This is episode number 586. The last time that Kelly Kelly, Barbara Blanks, her real name, the last time she was on the show was episode four. So we're going like way back to the summer of 2019. She's just awesome. I love this conversation. She's a brand new mom, her husband and her, her husband's name's Joe. They welcome twins, a baby boy named Jackson, a baby girl named Brooklyn.

And she says now that she's a mom, she wants to return to WWE. She wants her kids to be able to see her wrestle. So even though she retired from WWE when she was 25, which is crazy to say that someone would retire at 25. And yeah, she's made some sporadic appearances here and there. Sounds like we may see her in WWE at some point here. Speaking of WWE, I'm going to give you those WrestleMania 40 predictions on tomorrow's Ask CVV episodes.

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It's my conversation with Barbie Blank, aka Kelly Kelly. Well, congratulations. Thank you. Wow. Just two parents hanging out here. I know. Just have an old chat. Congratulations.

Thank you. You've got two, though. I do. And I know we've got our hands full with one. You do. What's life like with twins? But she's so cute. It's amazing.

Literally, like, they are, they have such different personalities, which is so fun. And they're just, and they, and they, It's so cute to just watch them interact. Like being a twin parent, it's unlike anything. Like, I don't know. It's just their bond. Everything. It's just so, I mean, every day is like something new with them, you know?

And they are just so cute together. They just started interacting in the last month. And they just, he, my son adores my daughter. He just like looks at her and she does the same to him. And like they have their own little language and they like talk to each other. it's wild and my daughter is so sassy. Like out of the womb, I was like, we are in trouble. Like, she is my karma.

Like, I feel like how North is with Kim, Brooklyn is going to be with me. So it's Jackson. I'm a little scared. Jackson is the freaking coolest. He just chills. He's so easygoing. Oh, my gosh. Jackson and Brooklyn, right?

How do you decide? Oh, they're both around your neck here. Yes, they're both on my neck. Jackson is centered, though. I was like, oh, we should make them. There we go. You can't have one out for their other. There we go.

So you find out, oh my gosh, we're pregnant. Right. That's a great day. Right. Then how long until you find out, oh, we're pregnant with twins? Well, and I've talked about this openly about my IVF journey. And it's funny because when we were doing IVF, you know, we got a great amount of eggs. We had a great amount.

And my doctor was like, let's put one in. And we put one in. It took and then it didn't. and my husband was just, like, seeing me go through that, and, like, we had had a miscarriage before that. And he just saw how I was devastated. Like, I literally was like, is this ever going to happen for us? Like, it was just, like, the, I hit, like, a bottom. Like, I was like, I don't know what we're going to do.

Like, I've always wanted to be a mom. Like, is, you know, and all these things flashed, like, before you're out, you're like, oh, my God, am I never going to be a mom? Like, all this stuff. And my doctor, my other doctor was like, I think we should put two in. I was gung-ho on it because I, and it's so funny because I talked to my friends from high school and they were like, you said you wanted twins when you were in high school. Like I have wanted twins forever, you know? And so when she said two, I was like, yes.

And so my husband only was like, oh my God, what if we have two, you know? And she was like, well, that's, you know, could happen. Because the idea is not both eggs, both eggs might not take. Right. So it's kind of just like an insurance. Like, you're kind of just like, okay, well, one has to take, right? And so it took a lot of convincing from my doctor, me, you know, our families. And he finally was like, okay. Like, he was on board. And he was like, I just can't watch you go through this again. Like, I just, you know,

thank you. Thank you, God. And so we went in, we had the day, we did the transfer, and we put the two in. And the crazy thing about the transfer, I'm getting goosebumps. when I talk about it, is we did the transfer on my dad's birthday. And my dad passed away six years ago of rare brain cancer called glial bastoma. And I just felt like to do it on his birthday was just like so like special. It was just, I mean, it was wild. It was wild that that landed on the day of the transfer out of 365 days. Like that's the day it lands on. And so I just was like, this is it. Like I just had a feeling. I was like, this is it. They're going to take. They're both in a take. And so you have like a two-week wait before you can like do a blood

test. And I just remember those two weeks were like the hardest weight of my life. And then my IVF doctor, she's up in San Francisco. And we did a documentary with her. And she has like six different women, six different stories. And we were filming it for her documentary. So she was like, I would love to do the first ultrasound so I can see if there's two or not, right? And we had done the blood test. And it was showing high numbers. You know, she's like, but still like we don't know. And my husband's like, we have, we have twins. Like, he was like, I already know. And I'm like, okay.

So we get up there. She's doing, you know, she's got me laying down. He's like next to me. And I see the screen isn't, it's towards her. And I see her do it. And she holds up too. And I literally was like, and I have a video of it. I'm crying.

My husband is, his face is epic. Like, it's like excitement. And then it's like, oh, like, we're happy too. And bless his heart. Oh my gosh. Yeah, you know, it was great, though, because his brother had twins. He did the same thing, put two in, they got twins, right? So he kind of knew how twins were from his brother talking to him because they're a year

older than ours. But yeah, like, he, you know, the day they came out was like the best day of both our lives. So, you know, no regrets. These are the cutest babies ever, too. Oh, my goodness. They're so fun. And between you, your genetics and Joe's genetics, we've got.

a future WWE champion and a future women's WWE champion or something like that. They are some strong, chunky babies, these two. Let me tell you. I don't know. Like, the first bunch of months for us were tough. Yeah. We didn't get a lot of sleep. And that's the, like, the cliche thing.

Like, you see a new parent. You're like, how much sleep are you getting? I know. That's like the token question. Yeah. And you know the answer is like, not a lot. Yeah. But you seem to be doing okay.

I am. I am. You know, it's really about the schedule. Like, I've had to real, like, I did all this. research about twins and like getting them on a schedule. And like if one is going to sleep, you got to put the other to sleep. If one's eating, you got to wake up the other one to feed it. Like they say never wake a sleeping baby. No, you have to wake them up. Like it is the day we got out of the hospital. We had an amazing baby nurse come and stay with us and really help because I was

like, I have to, I can't do this. Like I can't do this alone. It's just me and my husband. We have no family out here. You know, we were like, we need help, you know. And I could only be the best parent possible if I got a few hours of sleep, like, at least. So it was great. She got them on a schedule the day we came home from the hospital. And it was like a regiment. Like it was like 730, 10, 8, 730, 10, 30, 1.34, 37.30. Like, yeah. I'm like, oh my God, it's like military style. But it was so great for them. And then when they turned four months, they were sleeping through the night. Wow. It was a blessing. And I've had so many women. But we also did this thing called mom's on call. And it's an amazing, um, we did that too. Did you do moms on call? The Bible.

Yeah, and everybody listening who doesn't have kids are like, what are you guys even talking about? I know. And I'm like, what? I love this. Mom's on call. We know what it is. Mom's on call. Shut out. I love the owner. She's the sweetest thing. She did a Zoom with me and like went over all the things. And she was like, and people think, oh my God, you're letting your babies cry. And I'm like, no. Like, she's like, look, it takes two nights, three nights, really. My daughter was basically already sleeping through the night. It was my son. He would just wake up once or twice.

And she was like, just give it like five minutes. See if you can give it five minutes where they're crying. He would cry four minutes and he would be down. Wow. And it was that, like, but I think it's from that schedule and they just got it, right? So, yeah. What a wild ride you've been on. Not just the babies, like everything, right?

Because when you think back on it, Half a lifetime ago is when you- is when you debuted in WWE. It's really crazy to think. It's crazy to think that was almost 20 years ago, 19 years ago. Wow. I know. When you think back before that,

I know you were in school for broadcast journalism, if I were to sit down with a 16-year-old Barbie, what do you think that she thought she'd be doing for a living? Oh, my gosh. It's so funny. I was working in a tanning bed, tanning salon, like just an Abercrombie, And just, I worked at Abercrombie.

Did you see that documentary on Abercrombie back in the day? I didn't watch it, but I know what you're talking about. It's so true. It was hilarious. Like, we would have to be, he would tell us, okay, we need you to look for, like, hot people to work here. If you ceased it. Like, it was hilarious.

That job was so funny. But yeah, I was like working, it's funny because I used to watch it with my dad. Like, when I was 12, 13, never thought this was going to be my job, you know? Yeah, I was like, I was like interested and just like shopping and like tanning and never in my mind did I ever. And going to, I was cheerleading and, you know, yeah, six year old me blessed. Did you just constantly smell like fierce working out of Cromby? And have like the little playboy like bunny little. The tanning little.

Yeah. Yeah. Epic. I grew up in Canada, right? Yeah. So we didn't have Abercrombie at the time. It didn't come to Canada until years later. I remember going to like Boston or something or whatever we would go to this.

They have like the shirtless guys standing there. Right. And I'm like, what is this? And then someone pulled me aside and they're like, we think you could work here. Yes. And I was like, oh, you have the look. This is the greatest compliment ever. I could work at Abakrombie.

You got that look. So then WWE calls. You've told the story many times, but your entire life changes in that moment. It did. It was just wild how it happened. And, you know, getting a call from my manager saying, you know, they saw my picture, love the look. Is she athletic? You know, and my manager calls me and he's like, so I have this, you know, and what do you think? What do you think about going and trying out for WWE? And I was like,

sure, like, I liked going to school. Okay, it was fine. It was not my passion. It was not what I wanted to do. I wanted to be an entertainment in some way. And that's why I did, chose broadcast journalism. But I hated. I hated going to school. I was doing it to please my mom. You know, I was out partying, you know, 18 years old in Jacksonville, like living my best life. I was doing Hawaiian tropics. What was your fake ID's name? Oh my God. It was my ID. It was just changed. Yeah. That's a good one. Okay. My mom. My mom knows all of this, but I put her through hell less. She is the saint. Football season may be over, but the action on the floor is heating up.

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well okay got the job you know went to try out got the job I had to move to Kentucky I had never like been on my own I had never even really done my own laundry

and I had to move all my stuff me and Alicia Fox got an apartment together we literally had no furniture I had a bed she had a bed like it was like two college kids just living together

like eating ramen noodles. It's wild to think about this. And this is OVW, right? Yes, this is OVW because we had the choice to go to Atlanta or OVW. We both chose OVW. I don't know why, but we just were like... You're like, I want to live in Littleville. Yeah, I don't know why.

We did kind of hear Atlanta was like hardcore. And we were like, mm-hmm. Because that's where our trial was in Atlanta. We're like, it's a little scary. Let's go right. Maybe it won't be as bad as W at OVW at OVW. But it was still hard. I mean, we still, it was, yeah.

Who was at OVW at that time? Oh my gosh, it was like Punk, Maria, Beth, Cody. Which who else was there? Yeah, that's pretty stacked. Yeah. There was quite a few people. Yeah. And then you get called up.

And then we got called up. Like three, I got three months in. And I remember Paul called me. It was Paul who called me. And he was like, hey, we have this idea for you. do you have any experience like dancing? I was like, no. I'm like gymnast, like very rigid, you know. I was like, I have no, I cannot dance. It's not. He was like, well, we're going to teach you, okay? Because we have this idea. You're going to do this like strip teas and you're jealous

boyfriend's going to come and cover you up. And 19-year-old me is like, all right, screw it. I can get my foot in the door. Let's see how it goes. And the first day I got this. there. I just remember, and having to tell my parents, because all my family and friends were watching, because I was debuting, they didn't know what I was doing. I didn't tell them. I just said, watch ECW at 8 o'clock or whatever time it was on. And I was like, well, they're going to see. I'm not going to tell them. And I just remember my mom called me afterwards. Mind you, I think it was Kasama or somebody who was teaching me backstage the dance moves. And then I had to go and like, Vince was like, okay, this is what I want you to do. And I just remember Vince is like, It's Vince McMahon and Hunter is sitting there too and he's just like, this is, you know, takes like his jacket and goes like this.

Okay. The image of Vince McMahon teaching you this. Well, and because I admired him so much, like he was like my boss and he was always, like he was the most amazing boss. Like I just, but he kept it so professional. Like, I want you to swing it like this and then put the jacket down and okay, Kelly? And I was like, okay. Okay. And so go out and I had rehearsed with a chair. Okay, there was supposed to be a chair there. There was no chair. There was no chair on my first night. And I just remember on live television. And I was like, oh my God. And I just started damn bad. And I was like, I feel like I'm getting ribbed on my first night. I feel like this was my test to see how I would do. And I just went with it. And you will never forget it because it took me 20 minutes. let's take my bra off.

So embarrassing. Oh my gosh. So many things. Well, obviously it worked. It worked. You know, I came to the back and then just like, I'm so sorry. There was no chair. And it's like, it's fine.

It's fine. I'm I still have a job. Am I fine? But yeah. So, yeah, that was the beginning. And then the next week I got hit with a Singapore cane from Sandman. They were just putting me through the ringer. You know what?

But I honestly, I loved it. I loved it. it and I had so much fun doing it. It was a dream job. I got to see the world. I got to work with so many amazing people. Yeah, I just had the best time. How do you get prepared to take a cane shot from Sam Man? You know, it's wild as we rehearsed it backstage and he made it seem like it was nothing. Like he was like kind of, he was like, see, Kelly's going to be like this, his little and I was like, oh, that's fine. We get out there. And man, when, Mike pulls me in front and I see him, I see him launch it back.

And I'm like, this is not. And he goes, boom. And I remember going back. And literally, I think I got concussed. Like I saw stars. I might, I did this face. Like my mom called me. She was freaking out.

She's like, you made the face that you make right before you were going to cry. And I'm like, Dad, I was crying. Like, I was in so much pain. And they put me on the stretcher. And I just remember coming to the back. And everyone's waiting there. And my eyes are shut. And then I open them and Vincent is standing over me.

He's like, Kelly, are you okay? And I'm like, you know, and Tommy's right there. And he's like, when you go to the locker room, everybody's standing out there, don't you let them see you cry. Don't you let them see you cry. Get it together. And I'm like, walking, everyone's like, how was it? How was it? How was like, it was fine?

It was great. I get to the locker room. I'm like, ah. Yeah. What a first two weeks. Yeah. That's what I think. I'm like, these girls have no idea.

These girls have no idea. Now that are there, no idea. It was a totally different era, though. It was, it was. What was your reaction when they told you, your name's going to be Kelly Kelly? I, you know, the first week it was just Kelly. Yeah. And then the second week it was Kelly Kelly.

So nice, you got to say it twice? I honestly really liked that. I was like, no one's name twice. There's no two names, like whatever. And then I never knew why. And then I had heard that Vince had said there was like an episode of Cheers. Her name was Kelly. and there was a song called like Pelly Kelly Kelly.

But I heard it was from. That's where. You know what's a great wrestling name? What? Barbie Blank. I trust me. I tried. That's a great wrestling name.

They were like, it's Barbie's trademark. And that was the end of that conversation. But your name wouldn't be Barbie. Be Barbie blank. Always Barbie blank, maybe. You would think. That's a great wrestling name. Yeah.

I know. Kelly Kelly's, I mean, very memorable. You know, it's close second. Yeah, close second. You know what really got Kelly Kelly over? is that entrance there. Oh my gosh. Hala.

Love it. The first time you heard that, were you like, this is it. That was my jam. I loved it. I was like, yes. And I feel like it wasn't as a beat the first few years. And then I think maybe like my fourth year there. I was like, can we like.

So I think we added like a beat, like an up more a beat. I mean, the first, just the hit of that. Hala, halla. You know. What you think of that. Is that good? So good. It was good.

It was good. It was good. It sounds like your interaction. with Vince were pretty good. Amazing. Like, amazing. I always looked at him like he was my boss. I only went to him if I,

I only went to him one time. And that was when I wanted to become divas champion. Because I only saw him during rehearsal. This is rehearsals. And he was like, on it. Like, here we go. Okay. Rehears, done.

On the next one. Just so professional. Like, just an amazing. amazing boss, literally. I have nothing about amazing things. So you approach him saying, I want to be divas champion? I do. So I, I had, girls had told me, okay, like, if you really feel strongly about this, you've been here for five years, go talk to Vince. I'm so scared. Like, I'm so scared. What if he's like, no? Actually, twice, because I, the second time I wanted to try and become a heel, that didn't go over well. So the first time was, so they were like, just what's the worst you could say is now?

I'm like, okay, so I go in. I'm like, Vince, hey, I have this idea. Like, I want to talk to you. What do you think about me becoming, you know, divas champion? And he was like, you know, Kelly, I think that sounds like a great idea. And I'm like, that was the end of it? So I didn't, I didn't know when, I didn't know what. I just was like, okay, well, I put it out there. See what happens. So I think it was like a few weeks after that, we had the, it was like you go and you vote for who you, it was like the power to the people. Yeah. I love that. That was great.

And there was going to be three of us. It was like me, Beth and Eve against Bree Bella and whoever the fans voted for was winning the belt, divas championship. And Brie literally had to learn three different matches. We did not know. Like they were like, we don't know. This is literally up to the fans. You actually didn't know. We actually had no idea.

No idea. And Brie had, poor thing, was like, oh, my God, I have to remember three freaking matches in my head. My girl, more power to you because I couldn't know that bad. So I just remember I was standing there. And it was just like live. They're like, I think I got a really high boat. And then I heard that it went over to the next person who was because the person who was not supposed to get. I don't know.

That's, I like to hear that story. I don't know if it's true. But there was a lot of votes for me. And so as soon as they were like, Kelly Kelly, I was like, oh, my God, I'm winning. Oh, my God. You knew that you were going to win. As soon as I went out. Yeah.

The vote was just who was going to have the match. Right. Oh, so you're saying, well, so the people then picked the champion. Wow. Yeah. So it was just so cool. It was so cool just knowing that moment. And I just remember doing the match and just like, in the end, I literally was crying tears of

joy. Like I was crying. I was so happy. Um, it was just like the best moment. It was so amazing. What a cool moment to like, you hear your name. Your music hits immediately. You're walking out there not only knowing I have a match, but I'm going to win that. Yeah, I'm going to be the champion. And I had been there for five years and never had that opportunity. And I was just like this is, I felt like it was my time. I've worked so hard. I put so much effort in. I was always at TV's, um, house shows early. I was in there practicing. Like I wanted to be. good, you know, because it was in the era too of like, you know, Twitter just began and all these skeptics and she's a model and it was just like, I had so many odds stacked against me. And I was like,

I'm going to prove all you fuckers wrong. Like, I'm going to go out there. I'm going to get good. And I'm going to, you know, prove myself. And, you know, I did. And I feel like it was my time. I earned it. I worked hard. And it was like Vince being like, like, you deserve this. This is your time. You were the first of like that style of diva, that style of women's wrestler, which is now basically, you know. Well, I love being the youngest ever. So great. It's like no one's beat me yet. So don't you hire an 18 year old, please. You hired at 19. You were the youngest by a lot. But the idea, like now there's a lot of models or athletes or college athletes that are signed. And it's like, we'll teach you how to wrestle. That wasn't the case in 2006. No. No. I got, you know, yeah, I definitely got put through some things. Definitely just trying to like see, because a lot of girls, they hired a lot of, a lot of women and a lot of women couldn't take it.

You have to have thick skin. Like you have to. It was a male dominated business at the time. And you just had to learn just like have thick skin, just take it off, you know, whatever. Don't let things get to you. You know, even like hardcore fans, you know, even being. Being in ECW, I had no idea about the fans in ECW. Oh my gosh, the names I got called in the Philly Arena. I mean, I could have cried. I feel like I probably went to the back and cried a few times because it was just, they are hardcore and seeing somebody like me coming to ECW.

And that's why another thing, I was like, I have to prove myself. I was like, I'll take the Singapore cane shots. I'll take, you know, I took Mike Knox's move onto like a chair. And like, I, you know, I was like, I'll prove it. And now at my age, I'm like, I look back. there's no way. I was just like, had no cares.

I was like, yeah, throw me into this. Let me do this. Like, now I'm like, oh my God, if I get in the ring, I'm like, oh, my back. How did you do it?

How did you develop the thick skin? I just, you know, I feel like I just wanted to be there so bad and I just wanted to, like, this is like what I knew I was meant to do. And I was like,

I'm not going to let anything or anyone get in my way. I was just like, whatever. And then I, you know, when I first got in, and this was like,

I, you know, test was like, amazing. Like, when I first got in and we started dating, he really protected me. He really did. And I think, like, that first year, if I wouldn't have had him, like, protecting me, like, nobody messed with her, you know. He was a godsend. He really was, like, my protector. What's your favorite memory of test?

Oh, my gosh. There's so many. When I, this is like, I had been on the road a few weeks. And somebody, and I think it was Kevin Thorne who was telling me. He's like, oh, yeah, they just hired this guy. Andrew Tess. He's coming back. He was like, oh, he's going to love you.

And I was like, okay. And then I looked at him out. I was like, oh, he's really cute. But I was like, whatever, you know. And I remember I was in the ring and he was walking in. This was like the first loop. And he walks in and he was like, something like, hey jobber. I don't know.

It was like, what's a job? I had no idea. I was like, okay. And he was like, what do you do? Like, I was trying to take back bumps and stuff. And he was just like had his, I don't know, his burger. I don't know what he was eating. And it was funny. Like our interaction. Like I was like, okay, he's like trying to flirt with me. But like, you know, trying to peeve like the cool guy. You know, like, okay, who's this girl? And then he, oh my gosh, I'm trying to think. And then he gave me, what did we do? We were going. We were going. We were traveling, and I feel like I was traveling with, like, Sandman, Sabu, Tommy. And he's like, what do you do? What a car. Wow. Oh, my God, I know. They really did.

They were great. Like, they were so fun. Like, I was just like, oh, my God, what am I doing? I learned so much. They were really funny. I just heard so many stories, and I'm just sitting in the back. Because I'm not old enough to rent a car. And Tommy really was, like, him and test really, like, took care of me.

And I'm just trying to think of like one test story that's like really funny. I mean, he used to call me jobber all the time. Even when I was his girlfriend, I was a jobber. It's just personality. We had a show. Oh, I was tagging with him. I was tagging with him and it was me, him. And it was like against Tori and Tommy.

We had our like a bikini contest. And no one knew we were dating at the time. And we, I feel like people knew what we were. just like trying to keep it a secret and we had the match. And I was on the floor and I think he was on the floor. And like we both are like laughing at each other. And it was just like cute. Like we were just like so giddy. And it was yeah, there was just so many, so many funny memories. He grew up like pretty close to where I grew up. Yeah. So I just always felt like, ah, he's one of us. He is. He was so just like such a cool down to earth like just funny. You know, yeah. You talk. You talk.

about like you wanted to turn heel. I did. I can't picture you as a heel. I don't know why. I just had like a crazy hair and I was like, hmm, maybe. Let me just. You smiled too much. You smiled too much to be a heel. That is exactly what Vince said. So I went in there and I was like, Vince, I have an idea like, what would you think about me becoming a heel? And he was like, all right, let me see your like bad guy face, right? And like bad guy walk. Okay. So I like, I like. And then I started doing this exactly. Like I had it like, and then I started laughing. And he's like, get out of my office.

Like, this is why you're not going to be healed. Okay. Like, no, bye. What was the, what would, why would people dislike you? What would be the, what was the storyline? I had no idea. I just wanted, I just wanted to try it, you know? Because I saw everybody doing, going and doing both.

And everyone's like, there's no way. You're just too nice, you know? Okay. Yeah, I think that's it. Very short-lived. Right. Maybe if you didn't. smile so much.

And you were just like, you know, because a lot of, a lot of women wrestlers are like, you know, the look at me heel. Yeah. The arrogant like, look at me, I'm better than you. I probably could have done that. Look, you could have done anything. I don't know. I don't know.

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Yeah. But then what made you go, I'm good doing everything else right now? I just think I was on the road nonstop for six years. No injuries. And the injuries that I had, I was still on the road because I was still able to do things because I had, you know, a broken rib or a burst of sack burst or whatever. But they're like, you're still on the road. A what burst?

My burst is sack and my knee. I have never heard of that. Oh, my gosh. It's gnarly you don't want to. It's disgusting. Like literally, I hit it. I hit my knee, and I remember it doesn't happen, like, right then. Like, it just, it's kind of like you feel like a little sting.

And then, like, seven hours later, we were at dinner. It was like me, Eve and twins, like in Chicago, 11 at night, we're at dinner. And I just remember my knee getting nasty, like, so big. And I'm like, you guys, you're like, what is happening with your knee? I'm like, I don't know. I text the doc. I'm like, my knee. He's like, oh, my God, get to the hotel.

literally they had to cut me out of my jeans and my blood. So what happens is it fills up with blood and pus, I guess. And it's just like, you know, they got to drain it. But the blood had already clot. And so he's stabbing it. And he's like, I can't, the blood's clot. So I can't drain it. You're going to just have to let it disperse.

And so my leg was bruised from the toes all the way up to, you know, my butt, like just bruised. It was wild. Wow. So you're still on the road. Still on the road. Still the road. Bum knee. Yeah.

I remember I was, it was, um, the price is right who, um, oh my gosh. Bob Barker. Bob Barker was hosting. And so I was like backstage and doing like the thing with him that night. And I had this like thing on my knee. I was on him, you know, and I still had to work. And I, whatever. I was like.

So yeah, I would never, I never took a weekend off. I was there. Um, and I just was like ready to take a break. I think my neck had been hurting. And so they were like, totally take some time. I took a few months and I just was like, I felt like I was ready to do more stuff outside. Like, and this was like girls aren't really doing things outside of WW. Like you weren't really getting that much stuff. And, you know, I was like, well, I want to do like

modeling. I want to like maybe get into some acting. And I just remember like having this conversation with Hunter. And he's just like, look, the door's always open, you know, just. whatever, right? And I was like, okay, let me just, yeah, I think that there was nothing like really, there was not one thing. It was just like one day I had taken the time off and I remember I got the call and they were like, look, we're going to release you. But, you know, doors always opened. I was like, okay. And what were you doing to that time? I, nothing. I just, I had, happy to be at home. Happy to be at home. Like, yeah, I didn't know what I wanted to do. I just was like kind of burnt out. I was kind of burnt out. And I think they could feel.

that. And here's the thing with wrestling. Like, your heart has to be in every match. If it's not, it's going to be shit. And I just wasn't 100% in it at that time. Like, I just was like, I was burnt out. I was tired. I just wanted to be at home. Yeah. And I just think that was just like that moment in time because I had worked so hard. And I was like, I just need some time. I just need some time. And yeah. Now that you're a mom, do you think about going back? I do. I do. I really want my twins to see me wrestle. I think it would be so amazing when they get it. When they're like four or five, and I don't even know if they would still, they'd probably get it then. But like seeing, that's my mom. And they're sitting in the front row. And I just remember watching Michelle McCool when she came back and did the rumble. And her daughter was sitting there. And her face, her daughter's face was priceless. Like I watch. And I'm like, oh my gosh. Because that's what I want. If you could just see like the her daughter's eyes like, we're just so. big and she was just like, that's my mom, like, so proud. And I just, like, want that moment for me and my twins one day for them to just be like, that's my mom and just go out there

and kick some butt for a few minutes. So just a few minutes. I don't know. I mean, I'm up for a run. You know, we'll see. But I don't know. These girls are so amazing who are there right now. And I'm just like, oh my gosh, I feel like I'd have to go to the performance center. I'm really like Because it was so different. We weren't given the time. We weren't given it. Like, these girls have such an amazing opportunities now. Yeah.

And I just feel like they're just killing it. So for them to be four or five, we're talking Royal Rumble 2029. Yeah. Or Rumble 2030. Yeah. Like your number gets called. You go out. Boom, boom, boom.

You get eliminated. That's what you're looking for? I mean, something. I mean, then you say like that. And then I'm like, well, maybe I'd want to run. Maybe I'd want to have like a little. storyline with somebody. Yeah.

It'd have to be fun. I mean, I would love to do something with like Chelsea Green or like Maxine, I think is great. Tiffany Stratton, I think, is amazing. I mean, Charlotte's amazing, but I feel like she would kill me in two seconds. I just had Chelsea on the show recently.

She was talking about how you are the reason that Chelsea Green is in the WWA. You're the reason she's a wrestler. She's so sweet. And it's so funny because that story, it's, I remember how this all went down I had gotten a message from Tommy Dreamer, and they were having an indie show. I was signing at it at his arena, and he had sent me a text.

He was like, hey, I have this up-and-coming girl. I named is Chelsea. She's, like, amazing. She's going to be, like, the next big thing. And she loves you. And would you, like, do something at the end of her match? And I was like, sure. Like, why not?

Like, that's cool. I met her biggest sweetheart. And she kind of said, like, oh, my God, I love you. Like, you know, and I was like, that, like, really means so much. because, you know, being there and not coming in as a wrestler, but, like, you know, I really worked at it. And I wasn't like the wrestler type, right? So to have a, you know, girl like that, like young and beautiful and saying, I look up to you. It's like, oh, wow, I really am like making an impact, which is like so amazing and so cool that like little girls and are looking up to me, you know. And it's like, okay, I'm doing something right.

So, yeah, I did something at the end of their match. I raised her hand. And yeah, and then she's just freaking taken off from there. I feel like, so Chelsea said like she feels like she was in the wrong era. Like she feels like she would have succeeded a lot in your era. She would have. But she's, I mean, whatever era. Like she's doing so great.

She's doing so great. So maybe, and I'm just pulling this out of my ass completely. What if she becomes the champion and says, no, I want to beat the divas champion? If they bring the divas belt back, it would be. epic, but I just feel like they're just not going to do that. But I, that would be a dream. And then that would be my incoming. There's the run right there. There it is. There it is. Just fantasy bookness right here. Bring back the Divas championship. Oh, look, anything could happen. I know. You never know. When someone asks you now, what do you do for a living?

What do you say? Because I feel like you do so many things. I like to say like retired WWE athlete, uh, model, influencer. Influencer is so funny when you say that too. People are like influencer. Actress. Like, I just, yeah, just say I do all the things. You do all the things. You know?

I mean, it's true. Jack of all trades. And I feel like in every week, you could be doing all kinds of different things. Like last week, I think you were just at a signing. I was. Yeah, yeah. What's going on this week? Yeah, another signing.

I took a year off when I was pregnant because it was not cute to be pregnant and do signings. I didn't, I was, did not feel cute. I was like, let me just some time. Um, so now I'm like, okay, I'm ready. Now I'm booked like every weekend, which is great, but it's so hard to be away from the twins. Like, it's so hard. It's so hard. But, you know. I don't know how you do it. It's, yeah, especially when it's like, it's like, it's not just a way for an afternoon like this. Right. It's a way for a weekend. Like a weekend. Like next weekend, Indianapolis, right? Next weekend is Phoenix. Okay. The weekend after Indianapolis. I will see you there.

Oh, yes, very exciting. See you there. And then RussellCon. And then back to Jersey. Look at this. And you just say, Joe? Yeah, you take. And it's sad because the weekends are like our time together.

And so, you know. But he's fine. Like he's such a great dad. Like he's like, babe, you got to go to work. I got this. And like, he just takes control. And like, he's got it. What are your memories of WrestleMania with Maria Menounos?

Oh, my gosh, that was so fun. I remember they told us we were doing that. We were doing, you know, and I feel like that was just a month before. Like, it was not much planned. And she was doing dancing with the stars at the time. And so we just kind of, like, had to really plan that match, kind of like around her schedule. And we rehearsed, like, that day with her. She was, like, literally flying in.

And I think she had hurt herself. And, you know, so we were very limited on that. But I love Maria. I had worked with Maria before. She's so sweet. And I just remember that I was so excited because I hadn't had a WrestleMania just a tag team. It was always like a battle royal or a lumberjill or something like that.

So to have just a tag team, it's like me and Maria and Eva Beth, I was like, this is so, like, it was just like that was my year. Like I won the Divas Belt than, you know, WrestleMania. So it was just like the best year. that I had been there. And I remember they were like, you're winning. And I had wanted to do the molly go rounds for so long. And I was like, I'm going to pull it out.

And I had never rehearsed it. I just had thought about it in that day. And I just practiced with a mat. And because Beth was like, look, just do it when we're out there. Just do what we're out there. Just practice on the mat. And I was like, okay. So I got it on the mat.

And I was like, well, let's just pray to God that this works. Was there any moment of hesitation when you're out there? Oh, probably right before I jumped off. Like, please, just let me stick this. Please don't let me, like, hit her. I don't know. You never know. But, yeah, it worked perfectly.

So great. And then Maria, oh, my God. Then we did the stink face. That was so fun. I remember Maria had white on. And we did it. And she had the makeup from Eve's face on her butt. It's just like, oh, my God.

The fans were, it was like, oh, gosh. You know, this is, but Maria was too good. She was great. She locked it off because she could hear fans being like, oh, my God, what's on your butt? But she was great. And she was so fun and she was so professional. And, yeah, it was really fun.

When you do these signings, what's the one question you know or the one moment you know is going to come up many times that day? What was that? Sorry, the brain fart. Mom brain. When you're at these signings, what's the one moment or the memory that people go,

I remember you because of this, or I've always wanted to ask you this? It's normally either ECW, I remember how you started, whereas like when you won the Divas championship or, yeah, those are really the most, the famous two questions of like, or like, and then the question is like, who is your favorite opponent? Oh, then it's always, when are you coming back? When are you coming back? And what's the cute answer you have for that one?

I always say, never say never. I was like, I said that for years. And now I finally said, yes, I would come. That's it right there. Yeah. You heard it here. But no, like, we're waiting three or four or five more years? I mean, look, if I got a call, I'm not going to like really know.

Every like December-ish slash January, like a Royal Rumble season, are you just kind of like, you know, checking your phone a little more? Yeah, I am. I've noticed, though, they're not really bringing back the girls. There weren't really a lot of legends at all. Not in the last two years. Yeah. Well, I think the roster's so big.

Yeah. And they have so many girls that they need to fit on there. So I totally understand that. And on the men's side, too. There really weren't any like... I feel like they need to bring back a women's paper view, evolution. Yeah, what's, yeah. Come on, guys.

And, like, that's when you can bring back some of the older women, you know. Older woman? You're a legend, right? I love that. Is that the term? Yeah. Legend. You come out of retirement?

Yeah. I mean, like, that would be a perfect opportunity, you know? But, you know, I'm like, Hall of Fame one day. Come on, guys. Do you see that happen? I wish, you know, I can only, a girl can only hope. I mean, I think you could make a case for it. Yeah.

I like to think so. Do you still keep in touch with the bella's, the, the Garcia's? Yeah, I do. I can't get used to saying that. I know. With Nikki and Bree. Yes. Yeah, like we, like social media is great because you can like feel like you've known

some, you know, see their every day and what they're going on and stuff. And when I was pregnant with the twins, they reached out and, um, especially their mom was so sweet. She would always, you know, I would talk about the twins. She would be like, oh, I remember that with the twins, you know, like talking about my twins and her twins. Their mom was the best. But yeah, yeah, they're all doing good. It's funny how when you have kids, it like, it reunites you with other parents. All of us have twins now. Yeah. Maurice, Eve, the Bellas, Melina, or Rosa, Michelle. Yeah, we all have baby. This is a long list. I know, Maria, like, everybody has babies now.

My nephews are twins. And what I think is always so interesting is they're always referred to as the twins, the boys. The twins, yeah. The twins, the boys. I'm like, no, no, that's Colin and that's Clark. Oh, I love that. You know, like with you, I guess it can't be, you got a boy and a girl. How lucky are you getting a boy or girl?

Just one and done. Oh, is that it? No more? I don't know. I mean, we have a lot of eggs left. But my husband's like, I'm in. Oh, hair flip. there. Oh, oh, okay. We don't want any accidents. My wife the other day said, I want to have three more and I

went, excuse me? Oh, bless you. Three more, Rachel? Three more. Maybe one more. You're young. I'm older than you. No. We're a man. It's fine. My husband's younger than me, so he can handle it. I turn 41 in two months, so. But it's the women that it's like, you know, the time. I like that you specifically tap the wrist that didn't have the watch on it. Well done. Oh, I don't know if you call that a blonde moment or a mom moment. Well, well done. I should have done that.

Mom brain's a real thing. Should have showed off that Rolex. Oh, yeah. There we go. That's very nice. I worked very hard. It's very sparkly. That looks great.

Thank you. Mom brain, parent brain is a very real thing. It's a thing, right? You know. Oh, yeah. Are they talking yet? No, they're doing, they're in the phase of like the tereidactal squeal. Ah!

Like, it's hilarious! I love it so much. It's so great when they do it. I'm like, oh my God. Our daughter is, she says dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad. But her first words were mama, mama. Really? And I'm like, does she just say mama all the time?

Because I'm like, how do I get them to do that? Mama was the first one. She says, but does she say mama to her all the time to get her to? I don't know. You're like, I don't know when she's at home. I don't know what's going on. It's a lot of dad-da now. Oh.

Dad-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Oh, my God, I can't make. Oh, it melts my little hard. No, I also like pointed my wife. I know. She's like, but the first words were mama. First words were mama. Do you feel like you have to slow down now that you're a mom?

Or do you feel like I've got two more mouths to feed here. I've got to provide. Yeah. I got to ramp this up. kind of both. On the, on one hand, I'm like, okay, I'm trying to like spend as much time as possible with them as I can and like really just love mom life and like be so involved all the time.

And then on the other hand, I'm like, okay, but I still got to work. I still got to provide like, you know, I still got to do something. Because for me, I've always worked. I've always, I've hustled to get to where I am. I've worked so hard to get to where I am. And, yeah, like, I just, I'm not somebody who's like, okay, I can't do nothing. Like, I have to be doing something. Yeah.

So, yeah. What do you miss most about WWE? Definitely performing, going out there for the fans. Like, that was, I used to say, like, the best moment was walking through the curtain every week. Just, like, hearing the fans, cheer and scream your name, like the adrenaline, there's nothing like it. And then I have my babies. And I was like, okay. Well, they're number one.

And yeah, it was just like that. And, you know, the travel was fun, but I was always like a lot. I don't think they travel as much as we did back in the day. But back in the day. It's so funny. I hear people say that when I was there and I was young, I was like, back in the day. And I'm like, back in the day, back in my day, 20 years ago. What do you miss least about WWA?

The travel. Because I think that a lot of fans don't realize it. It's not just the flights. It's then waiting in line to rent the car. It was the car. Then getting your own hotel. Yes. Then traveling to the next town yourself.

300 miles a day at night. Yeah. And like that day in it, like there's no way for pretty girls are getting to a hotel in the middle of nowhere at 2 or 3 a.m. Like every weekend. Like that's just, it's so scary if we were doing that in these times right now. Like, I can't even imagine, you know. Like you're going. into like a motel six or a Hampton Inn and you're just like okay well let's do what we got here

so when you weren't traveling with saman and Tommy and Sabu who did you then move on to travel with then I was traveling with Tess for a long time and then when he left I was with probably the girls and I think I was traveling with like Mickey and Beth or like the Bella twins oh the Layla Extreme Expoise it was like Layla me and Brooke and then Crystal would travel with us some but us three were traveling all every week together because we were always together, right? Streamex was A. And then it was the twins, Eve, Maurice. Yeah, it was always like all them.

How closely did you work with Paul Heyman and ECW? I were like, well, it's funny because I worked with him so closely. Like he was, you know, if I ever had anything, any concerns, anything, I always went to Paul. He was amazing. He's a fellow Jew. I'm half Jewish. I can call him that. Oh, my Jew friend.

I love him. And then, which wild is that I got the call from Paul about winning the 24, the 24-7 title. And he was like, randomly, because I knew I was coming to the show. I knew he was doing something. And he's like, Kelly. And I'm like, Paul, what are you doing? He's like, okay, so you're going to be the first woman to win the 24-7 title. And I was like, okay, fun.

And then I was like, who's beating me? Because that was my second question. He was like, well, Candace. And I'm like, okay, that's fine, you know. I was like, don't let it be like, I was like, if Candace's okay. So you, you worked with him pretty closely. He's now a future. Well, he is a Hall of Fame?

Yes, I'm very excited for him. I was a struggle with us. I'm like, is he a future Hall of Famer because he hasn't been inducted yet? Or is he a Hall of Famer because they announced that he's, he's a Hall of Famer, right? I mean, he's been a Hall of Famer for years, really. He's great. He's, I mean, he's done so much for the business. Like, it's wild.

He's so good. I know. I wonder who's inducted. I hope it's like Tommy. That would be cool. I don't know because Tommy works for TNA. Oh, shoot. Who do you think it could be?

Boy, now we're just going to wildly speculate here. I know. It could really, it could be anyone because of the entire career that he's had. Yeah. But I just feel like it has to be somebody from ECW, right? I would think so. That would be cool. Tommy Dreamer would make a lot of sense.

I know. I don't know. I like that. That'll be my pick. I think that there's obviously precedent there with WWE working with TNA. Jordan Grace was just in the Rumble. Yeah. There's my pick.

Okay. By the time this episode comes out, I'm sure they'll have already picked someone else and will look like idiots here. Well, it's fine. I don't know. That feels like it makes. It makes sense, right? It makes sense. Yeah.

When you're not signing, what's the, like you had the wine line? I did. That was fun. I did. You know, if podcasts are hard. hard, like freaking kudos to you, because this shit is not easy. Thank you. Oh, my God.

We're like 580 episodes in. Oh, my gosh. I did five. And I was like, okay, I haven't seen revenue. You did more than five. Okay, maybe eight. But I just, it's just so much. It's so much work.

It's just, you really have to love what you're doing. Yeah, it's hard. I think it's hard carving out the time, too. Yeah. And you were, you were co-hosting with Jonathan Libnicki's. I was, and I love him. He's so great. He was so good.

I loved our, concept, but we both, like, you're having, it's in the studios in Beverly Hills. I'm far from that. You're like trying to find time for that, trying to find guests every week. It's freaking hard. It's, and you're lining up two co-host schedules at the same time. Yeah. And now a guest schedule, but you did it. We did. We had a great media company. It was Kevin Connolly's media company behind us and, you know, he's great. Love him and, but, you know. Well, maybe that leads to another podcast somewhere else. Oh, I guess is there. I like being on them there. But, nah.

I like being a guest. Yeah, I'm going to have some of this, too, by the way. It's great. I'll crack one open, too. Okay. I saw who did this recently? Maxine did it recently? Yeah.

L.A. naive loved it. You have the original flavor. What is it? It's a little, like it's sweet. It's like almost cream soda or- How much energy? Because I'm breastfeeding.

120 milligrams of caffeine. That's just as much as I can have. Well, there you go. I have the citrus clarity. It's a little like cotton candy. Oh my gosh, that's so good. Wow. Yeah, my wife is also breastfeeding.

Far too much information here. I like that. I know what you're talking about. Did this pass the Kelly Kelly test? It did. It's really good. We'll give you some more as you have out of here. Thank you.

My husband loves energy drinks too. Oh, we'll send you home a bunch. Your husband's the best. Thank you. You met him when we did the first one. I did. And I was like, that is a very... We were newly dating, too.

It was funny because I came over to your place. Yeah. And then out of nowhere, I hear this other voice. And I'm like, there's someone else here? What the? He's like, hey, I'm Joe. I'm like, oh, hey. He's a big man, too.

Yeah, he's a large, was he a bodybuilder? He was. But it's so funny because, oh my gosh, he, so we did the, we did E.T. When I was pregnant. And they like called him a bodybuilder. But he was never a bodybuilder, but he's an engineer. Like, he is so freaking smart. Like, he was like, why?

they call me a bodybuilder. Like, there's so much they could. Like, I'm a freaking engineer. I'm building the damn subway that's like, they're building an underground subway here in L.A. And he's like heading. Is this the Elon Musk thing? No.

Okay. This ones they're trying to have. It's like in, it starts in Beverly Hills. They're, it's going to go all the way downtown. So they're trying to get it ready for the Olympics, the World Cup and stuff. Oh, four or five years. LA is going to have a transit system? Underneath.

Mind blowing. Yeah. So he is, he is behind that. He's amazing. Yes, he is not a Billy. He is an engineer. And he went to, he is actually, and now he's getting his master's in business at USC. He graduates in May.

So, fight on. So, fight on. Yeah, babe. So you have to air this. He'll be very excited. Oh, this whole thing we're airing. Well, I know that, but that part. Oh, you want that to be a clip?

Yeah. That's a clip. That's a clip. There it is. There you go. It's so good to see you. You too. Congratulations on everything.

Thank you. And you've got this mom glow about you. Thank you. And I love it. It's so fun. I end every episode now. We didn't do this before. It's great.

talking about gratitude. It's such a big part of my life. What are three things in your life that you're grateful for right now? My kids, my husband, my friends and family. Sure. I love that. That's great. That's very wholesome answer, but it's true, you know.

I wake up every day and we say out loud, what are three things you're grateful for today? Kind of like sets the tone for the day. And then before you go to bed, you're like, oh, yeah, there's some bumps in the road, but at least we got boom, boom, boom, these three. I need to do that. That's great. You just did it right now. I did.

I did mine for the day. So, Barbie, great to see you. Thank you so much for coming in. That's fun. How about cheers? Cheers. You rock. So do you.

Well, there we go, my friends. She is just so fun. She's just so nice. I love talking to Barbie. I can't believe it's been five years since she was on. And a huge congrats to her and her husband, Joe, for the birth of their twin babies. It's amazing.

And I know we had a little, you know, not a little, we had a lot of parent talk there at the start. I feel like we could have started our own parent podcast there with everything we were diving into and all of the details about that. But what a fun conversation. And look, I don't, if you haven't seen Kelly Kelly lately, go watch the video of this interview or go give her a follow on social media. She hasn't aged at all. So if and more likely when she pops up in WW, you'll be like, oh my gosh, it looks like she never left. So I look forward to seeing that happen at some point in time here.

Snap, a screenshot. Let us know that you're listening, tag us. She's at the Barbie Blank. I'm at Chris Van Fleet, and I will wrap this up with this quote from Thomas Edison. Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. Be great. Be grateful. We will see you on.

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