Insight with Chris Van Vliet - Kip Sabian: Being inspired by Spider-Man & The Hurricane, signing with AEW, MJF, British wrestling

Episode Date: July 18, 2019

Kip Sabian sits down with Chris Van Vliet before Fight For The Fallen in Jacksonville, FL. Kip talks about wanting to be a wrestler after seeing The Hurricane in WWE, his love for superheroes and Spider-man, being signed to AEW by Christopher Daniels, the British style of wrestling vs. the US style and much more! Audio equipment provided by Samson Technologies: bit.ly/CVVSamson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chris! Greetings and salutations. I'm Chris Van Vleet, and that's why this is called The Chris Van Vleet Show. Very original name, right? Welcome, how are you? How you been? It's nice to catch up with you again. You know, it's funny how many tweets I got this week from people saying,

Hey, man, you need to do an interview with Kip Sabian. That's apparently the voice I've given them. Well, guess what? I had already done an interview with Kip Sabian when you were sending those tweets. Actually, I wrote back to all of you and said, yeah, we did the interview. It was awesome. You're going to be seeing and hearing it. very soon and here it is. And, you know, it makes sense that people would be clamoring for an

interview with Kip because he's one of the many wrestlers to watch in AEW. And his match with Hangman Page at Fight for the Fallen absolutely prove that. You know, most wrestlers will tell you they were inspired by Stone Cold or The Rock or Hogan, Flair, Macho Man, a warrior. You know, you get the idea. It was very interesting to hear him say that it was the hurricane that got him into wrestling and why it was the hurricane that got him into wrestling. Also, he's a massive Spider-Man fan, and he was definitely jealous when I told him that I was just in London interviewing Tom Holland.

And no, that interview's not on my YouTube channel. I did the interview for the new movie, Spider-Man Far From Home, and I did it for the TV show that I host in Miami called Deco Drive. We also talked about some hair tips here with Kip. Really interesting stuff. So thanks for checking this out. Also, thank you for the five-star reviews you've been leaving, and on Apple Podcasts, I'm seriously blown away by how much you guys love the podcast,

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It's super bad. Kip Sabian. It works, right? It's good to be here. Chris. Chiris. Van Vleet. Van Vlott.

Wlett. Wet. Letty. And it's good to see you, Kip Sabian. Lots of people do that, though. Yeah? They spell it wrong, too. It really annoys me.

Oh. Say bean is my favorite one. Say bean. B-E-A-N. Say bean. Huh. Well, that's only now, though. Keep Sabein here, ready.

That's only now, because once you guys start on TV, everyone's going to know your name. Isn't that crazy? It's pretty true. We need to point out that you have a black eye. What happened here? Dang it. I didn't see you

Nothing happened at Fighter Fest To give you a black eye It's It's There were about 100 guys And They all came at me at once I was defending a small

Small collection of ducklings You're a true hero I am No it was just Training hard And things happen So this happened In a wrestling ring

Yeah I happened in a wrestling ring Yeah I haven't in wrestling ring Well this is a way better story Than like Oh yeah man I walked into a light post or something. Or did I?

Yeah, maybe we're covering for that. I don't walk into doors at all. For a lot of people, this is the first time they're hearing you talk. And I think there's people that see you wrestle and go, I guess, I guess got to be American. Are people surprised to find out you're from the UK? I'm like a Tom Holland of wrestling, I guess. Yes.

I just interviewed Tom Holland, actually, for the new Spider-Man film. Did you really? I did, yeah. That's why I was in London. I was telling you that. Yes, I did. not know it was just Tom Holland though that's yeah yeah you got to put this a little bit closer to your face I'm sorry yeah there we go yeah he does an amazing American accent exactly right

yeah do you also no oh like his American accents like perfect he's also an actor the the amount of people that have said oh hello Kip how are you and I'm like okay that's a really good old school London accent they're like yeah you do an American one I'm like no it's really bad like really bad Every British person that does an American accent, they always do something with cheeseburgers. We'll go eat some cheesebag as. That was, again, the exact same British accent. No, that was a British person pretending to be an American. Oh, I see.

That sounded like a Canadian. Canadian, see. I did my research of this interview. Yeah. Chris. Chris. I want to say congratulations to you. I mean, your star is certainly on the rise here.

it's only been two shows I know right which is crazy we're going to have a third show here I'm sure the third show will have already happened when this gets posted The future

Yeah The future How much has changed for you though Over these last couple months I mean moving to The States was probably the biggest change I guess

Sure It was always something I wanted to do at some point Even before wrestling I was always It was either going to be I wanted to move to Canada I wanted to move to the United States

or I wanted to become an aborigine when I was a kid because my dad brought me a boomerang home. So I was like, oh, that's what I'm going to do. And then I found out that it's not a career path. No. So I had to settle for wrestling. Yeah, probably the biggest change is that

obviously wrestling-wise, it's been kind of a boom for me as well. As you said, a lot of people in the US don't or aren't familiar with my name. Whereas in the UK, it's a completely different ballgame. Right. So for me,

it's been more a chance to show sort of the US what I can do. What's been the biggest change for you personally moving to the US? Because I didn't, I moved to almost 10 years ago. The food. The food is the best change. Like,

all I will do is talk about and bang, bang energy drink is my, is my, if you're out there and you want to send a few crates my way, that's fine. I'll accept those. But yeah, bang energy drink is the one.

Monster, there's more monster. Now I'm, there's a war now between energy drinks that I'm kicking off. Red ball doesn't fit in there? Yeah. Red Bull, if you want to contact me too, I'm on the market for this. Let me know and we'll swell some kind of deal. But probably the, yeah, the energy drinks and the food.

The food is definitely a big one for me. I moved here from Canada 10 years ago and I was blown away by the food options. Like, you know, we have a handful of restaurants in Canada, but you come here and it's like every corner is like every chain restaurant you've ever heard of. It's the, I was back. It's just sad. The seasoning. The seasoning over here is so much better.

I think it's a lot of salt goes on the food here. It's fine. For as long as... It's not good if you want to be ripped in a wrestling ring. Sodium's not, shouldn't be part of the diet. I think about a change, you know, going into the heavyweight division now. Like Thor in the most recent movie? By choice.

Not by necessity. That'll, that's what you're, yeah. That's it here, folks. I heard it here, folks. What does it mean to you that you not only had the first singles match in AEW history? You also have the first singles win in AEW history. Yeah, that's pretty cool. When you, like, did you know this before the day?

Did you know where you were going to be on the card? So I'd had a bit of liaison about we were going to be on the buy-in. Obviously, to me, that was a real big sort of position to be for the first show. because not everyone would have bought the show, but the buy-in is free. So a lot of people watching that. So I knew that we were going to be on the buy-in. So I was excited because I thought, this is a chance to now show what we can do to get other people to buy the product. Plus, in the UK as well, it was on ITV, which is the biggest channel in the UK.

So it was a big deal for me personally on that end. I didn't know that we were going to be closing the buy-in, which then when we were told that, I was, okay, this is the next level now. It's not just a match on it. This is closing that show. This is important. Winning that match too, as I say in every interview I have is something that no one can ever take away from me. I will always be the first person to win a singles match in DW for its longth.

Lengthy? What is? You can tell that I flew in yesterday. This lengthy, longthy time, it's the next level of length. Oh, my God. That must be a British thing. It's Lankthi. Yeah.

Cool. Have you had to, other than Lankthi, have you had to adapt to other American phrases? Okay, so one that I've randomly started using for no reason. No, I know the reason. I was at a gathering and someone had brought their child along and the child had like dropped a Paul Q and just went, Dang it! And I was like, that's incredible. That's my new favorite thing I've ever.

So all I would do was jokingly start going, dang it. And then now it's become an actual thing where dang it is in my vocabulary, which is not good. Dang it with a British accent. You can't say it in a British accent. So you can't go, dang it. Because that just sounds ridiculous. So I could be talking in a normal British accent.

And then all of a sudden I'd just go, dang it. And it's like, what's going? With the hand movement, too. It doesn't work without the hand movement. No. And we're in like northern Florida. So we're pretty much into the south here. There might be people like non-ironically saying it all around here.

You know, there's that. No, no, it's okay. It's okay. America's such an interesting place to be. It is. This is what I was saying to you earlier. I'm still from the small island. So to me, every time I go somewhere in the U.S., it's a new area for me.

But to me, prior to moving here, it's the U.S. is the U.S. Yes. Whereas I didn't understand all of the little differences Across the country Then there's a lot of them I mean New York that was my favorite thing too I enjoyed being in New York when I went to New York Mainly because I've always wanted to go

I'm walking you I've always wanted to do that And always with this It's always this But I got the chance to do it in an actual scenario Where it made sense and it was the best And then I continued to do it Because it turns out

cab drivers really like to try and run people over me i'm walking here i'm walking here tom holland try me if you're having to explain your style to someone who hasn't seen a kipsabian match there we go what match do you tell them to watch oh the buy-in that was a great match with sammy it's hard um i think for me there's been a lot of uh changes throughout my character and my style throughout the years. Most notably, in the UK, I was a bad guy. And that was kind of the thing that really rose my stock in the UK. Put me on ITV before when they did some wrestling on ITV.

And it was because of that character. And then that slowly developed into the character I have now. I guess style-wise, it's very British. I was trained by the Knight family, Sarayanite being like my head trainer. Roy Zaner. This is Page's family. Yeah.

Yeah. So I was trained by them in the British style, so I think I'd take a lot of that realism over to what I do now, but I incorporate it with some high flying here, some strong striking here. It's, I don't know how you'd, like, people tend to put me in like a cruiserweight category or a high flyer category. And it's, yes, I can fly, but that's not where I think my game ends.

It's not like, oh, this is the, this is the cruiserweight match. Look at the guys. eyes fly around. That's not what I'd characterize myself in. I think I'm an all-round performer. If you want a mic guy, I'll be a mic guy. If you want a brawler, I'll brawl. I mean, I don't look like a brawler.

Well, you got a black eye. Yeah, I do. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Put it right in there. There it is. We haven't seen a lot of mic work from you, at least not an AEW.

Exactly, right. That's what I'm looking forward to. And again, like you said, we're two shows in. So there's still so much time to express all of that stuff to do. So you don't want to give everything away straight. You know what I mean? Yeah. But that's what I'm really looking forward to is a chance to talk.

The only people we've really heard on the mic are Jericho and MJF. I mean, that's honestly really it. Yeah, MJF. Yeah, my friend. What a guy. See, everyone, so, okay, he is an asshole, let's be honest. However, I can't help but enjoy him being an asshole. And I don't mean it from a, ha, ha, look at him, chat, but it's just funny.

If you're watching Max, it is, I'll see you in the locker room. It's fun to cheer him, but then when you talk to him, like, and he's not being a wrestler, you're like, oh, you're just a dick. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Which is enjoyable at times. You kind of have to drone it. Like, invest in a really good pair of headphones.

So invest in a pair of headphones that have noise-canceling properties because it comes in handy. Because then you can have them there. You can laugh at him. You can enjoy what's going on. But when he gets a bit too much, all you've got to do is just... You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

It's very good. Well, you describe the British style of wrestling. How would you say it differs from the American style? Okay, so the British style is changing, if that makes sense. Okay. I think now there's almost a hybrid style from the UK, which is kind of incorporating your traditional world of sports style British wrestling. So a very realistic grapple-heavy kind of wrestling, if that makes sense.

Yeah, of course. Which is what I did when I was training. It's a lot of grappling. I think for a lot of us, William Rigo was a big introduction. Yeah, definitely, 100%. So taking that kind of style, combining it, a lot of the Japanese Purozo style of wrestling is now very big. And that obviously went over to the UK.

You've got the American, which I find the American wrestling. And that's what got me into wrestling. I as a kid saw the hurricane and I was like, oh my God, he is a wrestler and a superhero. I was a superhero guy. I always liked wrestling. Yeah. As a kid,

but I wasn't a mega fan. Who was your superhero? Spider-Man, 100%. Oh, that's why the Tom Holland references. Spider-Man is the guy. Who's the best Spider-Man? Okay, so I had this conversation, and to me,

I am... Tom Holland is my favorite Spider-Man. Okay. However. Okay. Toby McGuire was a very good Spider-Man. And a lot of people say that he was the best. This is how I describe it.

You can tell that I've been asked this question a lot. Okay, so I think Toby Maguire was the best Peter Parker. Ah, yes. I think that Andrew Garfield, when he came in, was a better Spider-Man. Spider-Man's always been about wisecracks. And I feel that the Spider-Man from the original three movies wasn't as Spider-Man-y-as-Spider-Man. as Spider-Man should be. Tom Holland is the perfect combination of the two.

Plus, dude can do all the flips and stuff as well. I'd really like to see Toby McGuire do a flip. Yeah, the fact that Tom Holland can actually do that stuff is unbelievable, right? Yeah. So let's do the same thing with Batman then. Who's the best Batman? Who's the best Bruce Wayne? George Clooney, no, I'm joking.

Oh, God, nobody picks Clooney. I just want to be against the grain, you know, be edgy on this. You can't pick the nipple Batman. God. I don't know. I think for me, Keaton, maybe. Okay. I think Keaton might be the best Batman. But I think that Bale is the best Bruce. Yeah, no, I'm with you on that. I think with Batman, so I was never a big DC guy. I was always a Marvel guy. And I don't know why, because as a kid, you don't really know the difference between DC and Marvel. Yeah, just like they're all superheroes.

Yeah. But when it comes to DC, I definitely prefer the villains. to a degree. So did you think... Green Goblins still my favorite villain. Okay. Did you think Thanos was a great villain? Yes. Yeah.

Because I felt sorry for him at some point. Yes. Exactly, right? Yes. How annoying is that? No, it's great. Because usually in these Marvel films it's just a bad guy

that wants to take over the world or destroy the world. Yep. You actually had a reason with Thanos. You're like, oh, I don't like you, but I understand where you're coming from. And especially like at the...

Spoilers from two years ago ahead. click off no don't click on no there's more stuff coming yeah there's a lot more you wait and sick oh do you bring the fireworks are they here yeah they're here oh damn i forgot america um it was at the end of infinity war when he just sits down and i was like

oh man yeah you're not really that much of an asshole are you apart from the fact you've just no but he had a reason 50% of the population he had a reason for why he wanted to do that I mean, I don't agree with his reasoning, but you can see why he had that reasoning. Yeah. Yeah, I can't even reveal the most...

So I went to see the new Spider-Man movie. I'm not going to give away spoilers. However... People might be watching this in, like, the distant future. Okay. Let's just do it. Okay, so... It's been out for a week and a half, you know?

Yeah. I was what... I was reading on... We've warned you. Yeah. Spoilers ahead. For the next... So we say like 60 seconds.

Okay. 60, no. 120 seconds, which is too much. They're watching this because they're wrestling fans. Okay, sweet. If they really wanted to see Spider-Man far from home, they would have seen it. Yeah, you would. Yeah.

So this is on you, not us. Okay. What's the most annoying part? So I went through this ranking of Marvel movies the other day. Yeah. And it had the best to the worst of Marvel movies. And Spider-Man far from home wasn't like super high. Yeah.

and I was disgusted. Really? Because I love that. That was probably my favorite Marvel movie so far, which is... What? Yeah. And I will explain exactly why. Tom Holland is really good.

And by the way, there still haven't been any spoilers yet. I know, right. I'm wait for that. No, so maybe not my favorite. That's a lie. But it's... I'm coming off the back of it, so I think it seems better in my head. However, it was really, really good.

Yeah. And as a Spider-Man fan, it was everything that I wanted from a movie. Okay. Apart from the end credit scene where I was really angry for about three days. I was more angry. No, I wasn't. I was more angry at Toy Story 4. Went to see that the week after as well.

Not happy about it. Angry? Yeah. That movie is incredible. No. I'm a big Toy Story fan. I still have my 1995 Woody doll that was bought for me. You would have been like three years old.

It's in terrible. terrible condition. But I thought as it, we've now gone to Toy Story, sorry Tom. We've, yeah, Toy Story 3 for me as a Toy Story fan

was the perfect end. I was like, this is great. I'm really happy this end. And then they did a few shorts and I was like, that's cool, you keep the characters going.

I felt that the story to try and bring, I don't know about movies instead of wrestling, quick buzz through. The story to bring Woody and Bo Peep together was a great idea. However, it had so much filler in between that was just pointless and boring

that I just couldn't get along with it. I think Forky was enjoyable as a character. I think the ending really annoyed me because I didn't like the idea of Woody and Buzz being split up after you have Woody deciding that he wants to stay with his family at the end of three.

And then all of a sudden, he's so happy to follow his Woody would leave Buzz behind. But we also saw throughout the film that like he didn't really fit in with this new family. Yeah. And that's another thing that's annoying me. So he wasn't really going to be missed. The writers annoyed me on that because Bonnie, I don't know my name, when she in the end of three,

when Andy drops the toys off and she sees Woody in the box, she's like, my cowboy. So she clearly has an emotional attachment to her cowboy. Yeah. And then this film. doesn't seem like it's much time is past because she looks the exact same age. And all of a sudden it's like, I don't want to play with it's cowboy doll. It's like, no, that's not how it works. I still have my Woody.

Well, she got a fork, though. Yeah. We still haven't said any spoilers. We've talked a lot about movies here. But one point, Peter Parker gets revealed as being Spider-Man by Jay Jonah Jameson, which was very cool because it's the same Jay Jonah Jameson that was in the original movies, which I liked. J.K. Simmons. But I don't like the idea of having Peter Parker's identity out there when I still think there was more that they could have told before that happened.

I will say this. More happens in that 30-second end-credit scene than happens in the entire film. Oh, yeah. Especially the second end-credit scene, too. That was one that I really liked. So, hats off, Marvel. Would you ever work in some superhero stuff into your ring gear like Johnny Gargano does? Okay, so I

Had many an idea to do so I really wanted to do a Spider-Man Sort of styled gear Yeah But then I'm very close friends Childhood close friends with Will Osprey And he made a very big point Of a Spider-Man outfit

Not too long ago So I was like I'm gonna let that fizzle for a little while And then I don't know I think I've toyed with different ideas But I guess it just depends where I'm going character-wise. Yeah.

If that makes sense. What was Will's reaction when you told him you got signed to AEW? He was buzzed. Me and Will have been friends for, God, I don't know, I was like 15. So 12 years? Wait, how old am I now? 27. 12 years.

So before, before starting the wrestling, so the real, the real stuff. me and Will would backyard together. I'd get a train down to his house stay for the whole weekend. We'd watch old school TNA matches. We'd watch a lot of motorseat machine guns back then. What was your backyard wrestling name? Okay, so I had a few. So at one point, I wrestled under Jack Kippen.

But my original... Your real last name. J-E-D-T-D-T. That's the name that I wanted when I first started wrestling So I didn't want to be Kip Because Kip is the name that all of my friends In school Okay

Outside, Kip was my nickname Kippen being my last name Kip was just a go to So I wanted to be called Jet When I went over to the Knights And I started training there And I had my first match And they're like, what do you want to be called?

And I was like, Jet Kippen And they were like, we've already got a jet on the roster And I was like, What? So they were like What do you want your name to be? And I was on the spot Because my original name

Back when I first started Doing fun stuff on the trampoline Pretending to be the hurricane Was tidal wave And I was basically And I created him on the old The old wrestling games And it was basically the hurricane in blue

And it was title wave You better be brave Because here comes the title Whatever it was as a kid You imagine You're gonna be yeah Still in there Oh no

Now create you're gonna get out of it so so I was like I don't know what to do I'm on the spot I don't know what I'm going to be called I was like Ray you can come up of my name because Paige was still there at the time so she just called me Kip

but then they played a joke on me and I was Kip Jones Kip Jones was my name for one show but I didn't know my name so oh so music hits I'm like yeah that's my music that I

picked and then it's like entering the ring Kip Jones and I'm like who? That's me clapping away you know Big blonde fringe like captain scene kid fringe

super skinny luminous gear yeah I think those are the days Kip Jones for one match two two actually and then

yeah I think it's great that the hurricane is the person you looked up to because most people go, oh, it's Rock, it's Austin. You know, like Jimmy Havoc said it's mankind, which makes perfect sense for him. Yeah, it does. Or I think he specifically said McFolly.

But yeah, for you to say Hurricane, that's a really random one. Yeah, I think it was, again, I was a big superhero fan as a kid, and that's what sparked my interest, but it's very hard to become a superhero in real life. Batman's just a billionaire. Yeah, well, I'm not a billionaire, unfortunately. Tony Conn is. He could be the next Batman.

What? What? Mind blown. You wait until you see like this superhero flying around Jacksonville. What would he be called? I don't know. Wait. The Jaguars.

So he'd be. Oh. Cat man. Is the Jaguar cat? Yes. Yeah, of course. Yeah. We already got a cat though.

You got Black Panther. Yeah, but that's... It was a good idea, though. Yeah, the Daguar. man. Jag. Jag. The human jaguar.

I have to say I'm very envious of your hair. I try to do something similar. It just doesn't quite look the same. Okay, so I got a last, so where I would normally get my hair cut. That's the most stressful part of moving to the US was getting a new hairdresser. So who would normally cut my hair

had no spaces available. so I was like no what do I do they were fully booked up so I went to a new one that we drove to and I sat down and they were like what would you like and I showed some photos because that's the easiest way like advice if you get a good haircut and you want to keep the good hair cut always take photos always

so you're showing photos of yourself yeah okay this is what I want and they're like oh what about the the front and I'm like yeah don't take too much off because I like this bit to be longer yeah we sit down starts cutting away I'm like okay this is cool, this is good, this is good. And then all of a sudden, just,

and I was like, and I just sat there. And I was, one of the hardest, hardest moments. I had the same person cut my hair since I was a kid in the UK. Same person, apart from when I moved for wrestling

from great Yarmouth, Gorsden on the little bump, all the way to Leeds, because that was where I had to move to try and break out into wrestling. Then I had two years of a different hairdresser, but apart from that, I had the same hairdresser since I was like a kid.

And she knows, but I think it's because I was so comfortable with her that I could be like, no, stop it. No, I want this. So you're not a fan of this haircuts what you're saying? No. I don't know. We'll see.

It's short than usual hair. I would imagine, though, the problem having styled hair when you're wrestling is it only stays styled for, you know, a couple minutes in the match. You'd be surprised. I would be surprised. If you use the correct product.

So tell me. Okay, so a good product to use is it's called Blumen Cavalier Clay. Now that's a good one. To clay, okay. Yeah, but all you got to do is just make sure you read. So basically I've spoke about movies and hair tips. This is great. We talked about lots of wrestling.

The man behind the spandex. Do you do it on dry hair? Yes. I prefer to do it on dry hair now. I used to use something beforehand, like a pomade. Okay. On damp hair. and then I'd blow dry it with the pomade.

And then I put the clay on. But now I just tend to just use the clay. As long as you rub your hands until they're like boiling hot, that sounds real silly. But as long as you rub really hard until they're boiling hot, then you can just move around lightly and then it stays in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It keeps that matte look as opposed to like a wet.

And then do you hair spray it after? Wow. No need. That is impressive. No need. Hair tips with Kip Sab. Sabine. Sabin. Sabian. Sabian. With Kip. With tidal wave. We'll get back to wrestling right now. Who was it that reached out to you originally about AEW?

Chris Daniels. He's the head of talent relations. Yeah. He's he's he's and people were, he said in an interview at, or to a fan at Vegas about. how he'd put in the words, etc. Daniels was really instrumental in everything that happened to me over the last few years. So prior to this, I shared a long car journey with him and he was a great guy, gave me lots of advice, tips, pointers. That night, it was me versus Chris Ridgeway,

who's one of my best friends, who's in Japan with Nora at the moment as well, which is great for him, so big love to Chris. it was me and him in the main event and we were told do whatever you want you've got half an hour have a great time

wow so we went out there and it still is one of my favorite matches this day it was just so much fun Daniel's watched the match I didn't even know he's going to watch it he came back I said hey man have you got any tips any advice feedback because that's the first thing

I'll always ask if anyone's watch the match matter who they are feedback because it's always good to get everyone's opinions on that and he said okay i think you need to get some color in your gear and i was like okay sweet now what and he's like yeah that's it get on tv and i was like wow oh but i come on it's christopher daniels please give me like some some secret thing that i need to do to finally make it to the top um a few months later i get a email from him um and from ring of honor about the uk tour that they did and they wanted me to come along um

I got to wrestle in the international tournament cup thing. Can't remember the name of it. International Cup tournament, something like that. I can't know. It had a cool name. It was a core name. Sorry about that. Everyone will be commenting it below.

They know what you're talking about. I did that. I then stayed in contact with Daniels. And then he was the first person who reached out about there'd be something going on. And yeah, then the company got in contact me. direct and here you are here I am yeah in the US yeah legally in the US too you have an 01 visa I have a P1 visa I don't know I don't know that is yeah look at us it's the same thing I guess everyone's talking about legally work in this country yeah yeah yeah both our callers here

yeah no it's it was great they they came over to me and yeah yeah well congratulations Thank you. I appreciate your shirt you're wearing too. That's a really good shirt. I know, right? This is from Express. That's an Express shirt? Yeah, it is.

I was very impressed with this, with this, this find. This find. I like it. It was Express. I was wearing an Express shirt on the last show, and someone pointed out that they had the same shirt as me. So, skills. Well, Express and Bang Energy.

You know, they're all about this now. Monster Red Bull. What else do I like? Maybe. Looking around a hotel room. I'll take a lamp sponsor. Yep. I'd love to have a new lamp.

Some hair product sponsor? Yeah. Blue Man. And perhaps someone that cuts your hair that you trust. Yeah. Yeah. Reach out in the comments below down here. The problem is people are going to do this.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. If you're a really good hairdresser or barber or whatever the... In Pennsylvania. In Pennsylvania. Yeah. Hit me up.

in the comments below or on Twitter or somewhere and we'll see what we can do. Well, let's get you some more Twitter and Instagram followers. Let everyone know what we'll find you. Yeah, okay, so everything is, see, now I would always say in the UK, the Kip-Sabian, and then people would get confused when I was giving them that saying Z-Kip, and they're spelling it around on. Okay. The, the Kip-Sabian.

Sabian spell S-B-I-A-A-N. But pronounced say bean, of course. Everything, Twitter, Instagram. I don't really use the Facebook page at all anymore. Well, link that up below. But I'll be there you go. I want to be very respectful of your time. I know you've got to get out of here.

Like your call time's very soon for Fight for the Fallen. It certainly is. Yeah, so thank you so much. Thank you for having me. I appreciate your time. No, let's get like a... Oh, Megapowers? Yeah.

And then we're going to come in. You've got a really fun hand-shed. So do you. Damn. That hurt a bit. Really fine handshake. Thank you. That was great.

Thank you. Well, there you have it. That was quite the handshake. You definitely need to see that in the YouTube video, like a full-on Mega Powers handshake. If you hadn't seen Spider-Man far from home yet, sorry, we kind of spoiled it. We also kind of like gave, you know,

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