Insight with Chris Van Vliet - Melissa Santos On Joining OnlyFans, Brian Cage, AEW, Returning to IMPACT Wrestling
Episode Date: November 24, 2021Melissa Santos (@melissasantosofficial) is an actress, bodybuilder and ring announcer known for her time in IMPACT Wrestling and Lucha Underground. She joins Chris Van Vliet at the Blue Wire Studios a...t the Wynn Las Vegas to talk about why she started her OnlyFans account, what her husband Brian Cage thinks of it, her return to ring announcing for IMPACT Wrestling, her comments about Brian Cage and AEW, the preparation behind her first bodybuilding competition, moving from Los Angeles to Las Vegas and more! If you enjoyed this episode, could I ask you to please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcast/iTunes? It takes less than a minute and makes a huge difference in helping to spread the word about the show and also to convince some hard-to-get guests. For more information about CVV and INSIGHT go to: https://podcast.chrisvanvliet.com Follow CVV on social media: Instagram: instagram.com/ChrisVanVliet Twitter: twitter.com/ChrisVanVliet Facebook: facebook.com/ChrisVanVliet YouTube: youtube.com/ChrisVanVliet TikTok: tiktok.com/@Chris.VanVliet Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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All systems are going.
Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Van Blitz!
That intro from Justin Robbers just gets me so excited.
Welcome back to another audio adventure on Insight.
Thank you so much for being with us for another interview
from the Blue Wire Studios at the Win Las Vegas.
I'm CVV, Chris Van Fleet, so good to have Melissa Santos back with us.
It has been far too long since we caught up with her.
If this is your first time listening, by the way, I appreciate you. You're awesome. And please take a second right now to click subscribe wherever you're listening. And if you're not following Melissa on social media, her handles are Melissa Santos official on Instagram. And this is Mel Santos on Twitter. And you can find me at Chris Van Fleet on Twitter or Instagram and Chris.com. You can also find me on my website, Chris Van Fleet, on TikTok. You can also find me on my website, Chris Van Fleet.
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that are going to be happening at the end of this year and then into next year. And as you'll
hear during this conversation, you can see a whole lot of Melissa on her only fans, which
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Ladies and gentlemen,
Melissa Santos.
I haven't seen you in so long. So good to see you again.
I know. Likewise. You look jacked, dude.
Stop it. Stop it. Can we get, can you guys get the close-up on the biceps right now?
Oh, you mean? Oh, yeah. You have to.
Stop it. You were just on stage in a bodybuilding show. I was. My first bodybuilding show.
This is why I'm like noticing how they jacked people. Like, this is a community of jacked.
Well, I mean, the man you're married to, it doesn't really get any more jacked than him.
He's pretty, yeah, I mean, he is like, I remember when I first met him, it was, like, very shocking.
Like, him and Johnny, actually, were probably the most shocking, like, in, like, John Morrison?
John Morrison, yeah.
Like, the most kind of, like, just, wow, like, these are wrestlers, like, this is, this is what a wrestler's supposed to, like, growing up, right?
You're like, this is what they look like.
They look animated, right?
But him and, you know, Brian and John were, like, for sure the ones.
And then, and then Brian just kind of kept my attention, you know, so here we are.
a whole baby and a marriage and a move to Las Vegas.
Later, so yeah.
Let's talk about that because I always knew you as,
and this is funny, you guys always said you lived in L.A.
You actually lived in Rancho, right?
Rancho Cucamonga.
Who knows what Rancho Cucamonga?
Every wrestling fan knows now.
Oh, well.
Because of the Young Bucks.
Yeah, yeah.
But you guys actually lived in Rancho Cucamonga.
And the young bucks, sorry, everyone, don't live in Rancho Cucamonga anymore.
No, no.
Yeah.
They live close, though.
Yeah.
Like, you know, but you still always.
have to rep where you came from, right? It's all about the roots. And it's just fun to say Rancho Cucamonga.
What does that mean, by the way? It doesn't. What's the direct translation? Rancho is just ranch.
And then Cucamonga, I think it's just a name. And I think it was. And for anyone who lives in Rancho,
Kukamanga in California, or knows the history. But I know it is the name of like one of the founding
families of that area. I think that kukamonga is that. So I'm almost positive. That's how.
How is life in Las Vegas?
Like it's vacation all the time.
So that's a pro-anaconda.
It is.
You have to learn how to have some like self-control out here.
And I'm, you know, I think Brian and I have really, we're really good at that.
So we have our priorities.
I have a daughter's.
I can't be like, oh, mimosas at, you know, 10 a.m every day, even though maybe sometimes I want to.
But yeah, I can do that because I have a mom.
And I have, you know, my dogs at home too.
and there's like people, you know, people and animals that depend on me, so I can't.
What made you guys decide to move from California to Nevada?
California during COVID got super, super restrictive, like so restricted that as parents,
like I couldn't keep my daughter inside, like all day, like no parks were open.
And it just went on for so long.
It was really hard to find a daycare so that I could also go back to work and do stuff.
So we're like, okay, where can we go?
That's not as restricted, but still has like some, like, freedom.
and that was Vegas. And so I love Cali. I don't really miss all of it just yet. I think I told
you walking and I'm like, I don't really miss it just yet because I'm having, I'm still like new here
and there's so much to do here. Yeah. So not yet. But when it's, when it's 117 degrees in July,
do you kind of miss it? I didn't know how to deal with that. I walked outside and I'm like,
I'm, this is hell. This is for sure what it's like. It's pretty hot. It's ridiculous. But, you know,
Now the weather is amazing.
You've been outside.
It's nice and fresh.
This is perfect.
Yeah.
And so it's actually perfect.
So from what I've learned from the locals is that those months are the hardest.
Yeah.
And it's, they don't last too long.
So it was probably like three months of just pure hell on earth.
Okay.
And you just want to stay inside.
And but after that it's been pretty okay.
Like I'm like, okay.
I'm, I got a crop top, right?
Like I'm like, you know.
You got to show off the abs.
Come on.
I have to.
Let me see.
If you stand up, I bet.
Let me see.
Yeah, okay.
We have to.
Oh my gosh.
Come on.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Only fans.
I'm just kidding.
We will talk all about that.
Wow.
Zeus over there just like, what is happening?
Yeah, Zeus, my incredible videographer, photographer.
He's the best.
Yeah, dude, with the name like Zeus, he has to be the best.
I like how you're like, is your name actually Zeus or are you some sort of a wrestler?
His name's Hey, Zeus.
It's way cooler to go by Zeus.
Zeus.
Love that.
Hey, Zeus.
Hey, Zeus.
See that?
Zeus.
Hey.
Yeah.
I was not expecting that you'd be making the announcement that you would have an Onlyfans.
I didn't either.
I did not either.
I have some new management that was like, hey, you know, we can do this and this for you.
And we can like organize you as this model.
But we can handle and maybe put together some content for you for Only fans.
And we can do this together.
and then they just kept pushing and they work with other influencers stuff.
And I'm like, you know what?
Yeah.
And they help me with partnerships outside of that.
So I was like, hey, okay, this is good.
Let's do this.
So I have a partnership with a company that helps me make this better for my fans as well.
So that kind of made it, I don't know, like, I don't know.
I was just not ready to do it on my own.
I felt like I needed like the kind of push.
And then Brian was always like, babe, do it.
I want you to be like just out there just being hot.
Like my husband just likes to put me on like a little pedestal.
If he's okay with it, then.
Oh, he loves it.
He approves my content.
He's probably taking the photos.
Yes.
There's some photos that he takes it too.
Yeah.
He's all into it.
He's,
oh my gosh,
this is hot.
This is great.
And I feel like because he's a man, right?
In males,
they know what they want to see on Onlyfans.
He's all,
this is good.
And so he else approve the content.
And so here we are.
Did you have some other friends in the industry that were like,
Melissa,
like I am making so much money.
Yes.
a lot of them. And now we see a lot like Chelsea, for example, has her only fan. She's like,
Melissa, what are you doing? Do the only fans. Do the thing. I'm like, oh, I don't know.
Like, because the stigma, right? Like, so there's this stigma. And I know when I really sat down
and thought about it, I'm like, why? Like, we're just doing this to ourselves. I was like,
why? And it's usually other, I don't know. I hate, I don't want to be at like a woman basher,
but I feel like it was certain women in my life that were like, no, you can't do that
because of this. And then I'm like, but no. Like my other friends who are entertainers,
are doing it. And it was, it was the women that aren't entertainers in my life that were kind of like,
don't do it, don't do it, because it has this look. I'm like, but why? Why don't we just
empower women? Like, what's wrong with me being sexy and a mom? And I have layers. This is just
one of my layers. And my fans with, you know, if you guys are amazing, like my first 24 hours on
OnlyFans has been, like, why didn't I do this before? So I don't know if you want to dive into it,
but how many subscribers did you get in your first 24 hours? It was like over 100 subscribers right now.
Okay. And that's one day in.
It was like one day in that I just saw.
But then this was like at six in the morning.
And it hadn't even been 24 hours yet.
And so like now every time I go on, it's like subscribe, subscribe.
I'm like, this is amazing.
And they're tipping me and they're like, this is awesome and sending me private messages and thanking me.
I'm like, well, well, you're welcome.
So how much of you will they see on the way?
It's a lot of me.
It's a lot of me.
Uh-huh.
A lot of me.
That's it.
That's all I can say.
Okay.
You have to subscribe to see, like, how much.
What a tease.
What?
I'm such a jerk right now.
I'm such a jerk.
But it's a lot of me, and it's a lot of me in a different way that people are not used to seeing.
And I feel like they're like, please, like, do it.
And then finally I did it.
And my wrestling fans are awesome.
And they've been with me since, like, Lucha Underground days.
And they're, like, super supportive.
And it's been nothing about positivity.
So far, no mean things have happened.
Now, what happens?
one day when your daughter sees this.
I don't care.
It's okay.
Okay.
My daughter is going to be around a lot of entertainers, and we understand that there is a
formula that works.
Sex sells, right?
It can't just be that, you know, but it could be this, you know, this evolution of this
sexuality, which I have no problem leading with sexuality.
I have no, that's, I feel like every entertainer does.
Like, you do.
You might not know you're doing it.
I certainly do not.
You might not know you're doing it, but it is.
There's a sexuality.
that we lead with, that is great and it's appealing.
And like, if you think about what gets all the likes online and all that, it's the sexiness.
Like, if I post something sexy, all the likes.
If I post something and it's just me and my dog, some of the likes.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like it's like, unless it's me and my dog, like really sexy dressed up, like sexy with
my dog.
Like, that's, it's really what it is.
And I guess I did post a shirtless photo yesterday.
Did you really?
I did.
Do I have to look this up?
How did I miss this?
I mean, I can't believe you.
You didn't comment on it.
I've been eating a lot of pizza recently, and it's been really helping to carve the abs out.
Wow.
Can we?
Can we?
What is?
It's just, you know, no.
Oh, it's just like, you know, 145 comments and, you know, okay.
No.
But you were saying, like, you know.
But that fills you up.
People don't understand that the carbs after low carb, pizza, dude, it's the best.
I was joke that it's the pizza diet because I had, there's been times when I've been, like, super strict.
And I'm sure you were right before getting on stage.
You get flat.
And it's interesting, and I'm sure you've done this.
You carb up or you sugar up right before a shoot.
And it's less like, yeah.
I actually just posted a clip with Jason Mamoa,
who said right before his shirtless scene in Aquaman.
The fact that you're hanging out with Aquaman.
This was when I interviewed him for Aquaman.
He said he drank a Guinness right before going on set.
Yeah, you got some sugar on you.
And it was just, so I'm like, so you drank beer to look ripped, crazy.
And to relax.
him. I'm sure he, it's like, you know, it looks better, it can move sexier. I'm telling you,
it's about the sexiness. That man is the sex god. Like, I'm sorry, babe. Like, that's, I know we have,
like, certain celebrities that we get a pass with. He's definitely. There he is. He's, yeah, 100%.
That's Jason Mamoa for you. Yeah, he's. Who's Brian's tall pass? Oh, he loves Rachel McAdams.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I do too, though. I'd let him. It's fine. Yeah. She's,
She's a fellow Canadian, so I appreciate her.
She's amazing, yeah.
He loves Alanis Morset, too.
She's Canadian, too.
Yeah, look at this.
Pamela Anderson, all the beautiful Canadians.
Justin Bieber, Nickelback.
Wait, is Justin Bieber really Canadian?
Yeah.
I didn't know this.
He's from Stratford, Ontario.
Okay.
I like him.
He gets a lot of heat.
He does.
But he's incredibly talented.
So talented.
He is so talented.
So talented.
Man.
Here's the thing with OnlyFans,
if what's working this week or next week is working now,
Aren't you worried that it's going to have to just continuing to be more all the time?
No, because I'm going to give different content to every week.
Okay, so you've got a content strategy.
Yeah, I have a complete content strategy.
And it doesn't always have to be more.
Because, I mean, like, how far are we going to put?
It's about reinventing.
It doesn't have to necessarily be there.
Are you completely naked?
I can't say.
Wow.
Stay here. Okay. So he wants to know if I am completely naked. You're going to have to sign up and see.
Okay. I probably won't be signing up. I know. But I support you and I think you're amazing and I love you.
And I'm congratulations on everything. Thank you. I probably won't be, you're my friend and I won't be signing up.
I know. And you're like, ah. Yeah. Awkward. Yeah. Like a future interviews are going to be awkward.
Super support you. Just probably won't be signing up for your only fans.
I know. But so far it's been great and I'm really happy about it and all the girls were like, do it, do it. I'm like, I get it. And it's actually really, really fun. Like I'm putting together the content, I'm like, oh, this is going to be fun. Oh, this is going to be awesome. Like, let's do this. It's exciting. It's exciting. I never knew I would like it this much. So here I am.
And it's funny because you probably didn't expect to be doing this when you were working with Impact Wrestling. No. And I plan on hopefully working with them again.
We just saw you.
that. Yeah, that was really fun. The response to that was really amazing. And I was just, like,
really humbled. I'm like, oh, this is, yeah, I miss it. I really do miss it. And I miss spring and out.
And it was just for what I was there for was really humbling, too. You know, such incredible women,
such powerful women in the industry that have paved the way for, you know, a lot of women who are just kicking butt.
So, yeah, it was really nice to be a part of that.
Was the plan to step away and do stuff outside of wrestling or was just kind of like, you know,
came to a stop with COVID?
COVID really changed a lot of things for me.
Like, see, the thing is Brian could keep, as a mother, like, someone has to say home.
I can't leave my daughter.
Yeah.
You know, with a bowl of food and some water and just, like, kind of come back in a couple
of days.
I'm her mom and I'm taking the risk.
I'm the parent who's almost always with her.
Yeah.
So things change.
So after becoming a mom, though,
I had to reroute my efforts.
And then COVID, when COVID hit, I mean, everyone had to reroute their efforts.
Like, that was insane.
But I think, you know, slowly things are kind of going back to or becoming what they are in a different way now.
So I'm okay with that.
So you're seeing your efforts were rerouted to being full-time mom for basically the last two years.
That was really hard.
Yeah.
Because I'm like, I miss a lot of things.
And so I still would travel.
I would still do, you know, appearances.
But just kind of rerouting things for me.
I've been doing a lot of voice stuff, which is cool.
So doing a lot of, like, content for companies where they need voices.
And then I'm just saying, I work with the company in New York.
Give us a voice.
No, they're the advertisement.
Give us one.
There's not a voice.
Like, what?
It just, it depends.
Anyway, what I'm going to, like a voice.
Read us one of your VO scripts.
What did I do?
I got to hear this.
I don't have a VO one on me right now.
Yeah, come on.
Oh, my God, you're killing me right now.
Oh, I can't wait to hear.
We got the professional setup here.
This is going to sound so.
Good. We need to hear this. Okay, she's looking one up. What did I just do recently? Oh, my goodness.
I want the full professional voice. It was for, I can't even say it yet because I actually, I can't say it yet. It was for, okay, so I can see the company. It's for a company called New Wave. They do a bunch of, like, a lot of appliances that you use at home. So I did some stuff for them and it was in Spanish and in English, but it's like, I don't have the- Give us a little bit of the Spanish.
script.
You're killing me right now.
You know what?
I could do something in Spanish.
Hold on.
It's just, it's my voice, but in the Spanish.
But I'm sure it's like, you know, it's not just your voice.
Yeah, it is.
What did I just do recently?
I'm sold already.
No, no.
I'm like, gosh, I hate you right now because I'm like, I don't have a script on me right now,
but um
waitate
penate Chris
um
how about I just sell you a car
I would do the Spanish stuff when I'm doing my
voiceover stuff for cars
um
hello
we're here with Chris Van Vleit
and he wants to buy a car
car, a caro of the year
but you need to
know, need exactly
what type of car you need?
What kind of car do you need?
Wow.
So I mean,
I just kind of change into that.
Now we're going to be.
And this car will cost you
not more,
and nothing than $500
a month.
If you're just $500
dollars
Al-Mess, Chris Van.
Wow.
Vlitt.
Lerite.
Al-Hillit.
Carros.
So I don't,
so I'll do like a lot
of like voiceover stuff
for like cars
and things like that.
My goodness.
But the one I recently did,
I didn't do
because it's like,
it's not official yet.
I felt like we're,
so I'm just going to sell you.
I was going to try to sell you for a.
Oh,
For a second, I was about to start selling him.
I'm sold.
I'm sorry.
I don't know if your wife would be a girlfriend.
Girlfriend.
I thought you were married.
I am not.
It's practically married, though.
You guys have been together for a long time.
Yeah.
She's great.
She's great.
We're not married.
It's practically.
Like, once I feel like, when does it become a marriage where it's like, where you're
practically?
I think it becomes a marriage when like, you know, you put one ring on one finger.
I mean, that's just a contract.
I feel like it's so.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's more contractual.
That's like...
I think it becomes a marriage when you move from California to Nevada.
I know.
And it's Nevada, not Nevada, right?
I don't know.
I think it's Nevada.
I think I say Nevada.
I think that's correct, right?
Is that...
Nevada?
I don't know.
Anybody who's from...
Pretty sure it's Nevada.
It's Nevada.
Yeah?
Okay.
Nevada.
Thumbs up.
So, Nevadians.
Nevadaans?
Nevadaans.
Nevadaans?
Nevadaans?
Nevadaans.
Nevadaans?
Nevadaans?
Nevadaans?
Nevadaans?
No.
Nevadaans.
Nevadaans.
Are they okay with saying Nevada?
Or do you guys get, like, insulted?
Because I don't even, because I'm not official.
Like, I'm not even an official resident.
I think it takes like a year at least or something like that.
Probably like, you're clearly not from here.
I'm not from here.
Like, people do, you know, they do that.
They're like, you probably still like going to the strip.
I hate the strip.
Oh my gosh.
Like, I have never, like, like, I just know.
I like Fremont Street.
Fremont Street.
Okay. Downtown.
It's fun.
Yes.
So much.
There's a bar out there that really loves wrestling fans or fans and wrestlers.
Nerd bar.
Now, this is the bar.
This is the bar where instead of riding a mechanical bull,
yes.
You ride a mechanical penis.
A giant penis.
Yeah.
Two different colors, too.
They have a big giant black penis and they have a big giant white penis.
And you post it.
So there's one for everyone.
So you posted a photo of this recently.
But it was a close up so we couldn't quite tell what we were.
I was trying to have my abs.
Like, my abs looked good.
Yeah.
So we're like, we got to post this closer.
So you're like, is that a penis?
Is it not?
Now everyone's, it was like the veins of the penis.
Yeah.
Now everyone's going to go look at this photo and go, oh, yep, I see it now.
I think Chelsea has one up there too.
Yeah, well, she, that was from her bachelor party, right?
Um, was it?
No.
It was for Impact.
Impact was out here.
Yes, that's right.
And then everyone went to the nerd bar because that's the spot.
Dude, the place is awesome.
They have the best drinks.
I finally got to enjoy a drink after months of prep.
Yeah.
And I was just there like two weeks ago, and it was amazing.
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When you're married to a bodybuilder, you go, you know what, that will one day be my path?
Bodybuilding?
Yeah.
You know what?
Not exactly.
With him, I just always loved fitness.
I just never thought I would do the bodybuilding because the diet being so restricted.
I mean, so restricted.
And there's a big difference between someone who works at it.
out and lifts weights.
And exhibit A right here.
And then someone who like bodybuilds exhibit B and like huge difference.
Well, you can't really tell as much.
Because you're wearing sleeves.
You look like the bodybuilder right now.
Stop it.
And there is a difference.
But that, you know, at least there's similarities that like you understand the discipline
that comes with it.
I feel like this is why someone who does it as a lifestyle can easily transition.
And by easily, I mean.
More easily.
Even more easily because it's not that easy.
But you can transition and you understand what it takes.
I just never thought I would do it.
I just decided to.
I was like, you know what?
I'm going to give myself just I need structure and I want to learn something new.
And it's very different.
So I did learn a lot about my body.
I learned what works, what doesn't work.
I learned so much.
I learned what peak week is going into your final like week before you hit the stage.
was the most difficult week of my life.
And I've had a baby.
Like, I will gladly just go into labor if I don't really have to do that often.
Just like, I'll go into labor right now.
Is this because of the water depleting?
It is, you know, the water loading.
And then the depletion, like, I got zero carbs.
I was on zero carbs for always almost like three weeks.
So by the time I fit, I mean, I went from like 137 pounds to like 12 pounds of like.
And fats are your only energy?
Fats. So fats every other day towards the end. So you have days where you're just doing protein?
Oh my gosh. Yes. Oh, that sounds terrible. It was horrible. I would never want to be around someone like that.
Yeah, I was not nice. Poor Brian. I was not nice. I was like, like, everything would set me off. I'm like, I don't know. I think I was crying because I couldn't find the peanut butter that I wanted. Like, because it was my, it was my fat day. And that day I got a tablespoon of peanut butter with my breakfast, like with my eggs. And I was like losing my mind.
where is it? It has to be the clean one. It can't be the jiffy because that has salt.
Sugar, yeah. Yeah, it has like extra additives in it that blow you. Like the, yeah. So I'm saying,
and I cried. But with all that said, you are in love with bodybuilding. I am. I'll do it again.
Yeah, I'm going to do it again. I'm going to do Jay Cutler's show in April out here.
It's a little bit early, but I think I think that's going to be the one for me. So he's going to be a guest in the show.
I heard. Actually, right after you leave here. I know.
You should stick around.
It's meant to be I want to officially meet him because I seen him at.
He was just at the show that I just did, a Steve Carr, I'm international, that I just did.
And he was there.
And he was just like, you know, doing his thing and just making his rounds.
And, you know, he had his podcast there and all that.
So, yeah.
Like, Brian Cage is a large man.
And then, like, Jay Cutler is like whatever the next level.
It's ridiculous.
These guys are ridiculous.
Like, it's really amazing.
Like, it is.
It's so impressive.
It's impressive.
And then the women, too.
Like there's so many divisions now.
So there's a division that is like kind of in between like wellness and I think figure.
I believe it's figure.
So it's well, it's called wellness.
So the legs are thicker.
The butt is bigger.
So that's maybe something that I want to do after the next because it would take me about a year to grow.
Because I basically am, I'd have to be like me, but like just just bigger, jacked.
A more jacked version of a bikini competitor.
Yeah.
So there's that.
The girls are getting more jacked and more just like kind of like the guys.
I think it's so cool.
Like, there aren't these, these gender roles really don't exist.
And it's really cool to watch them.
And the girls are, like, killing it.
And I have a lot of bodybuilding friends out here now.
A lot of, a lot of girls who have helped me so much.
Like, I had a good team of, like, Brian helped coach me.
I had two coaches.
So I had Brian towards the end.
I had Nathan Harris, who they call him the Hulk out here.
He's amazing.
He knows Jay as well.
He, you know, he works with Dennis, who's also, I was afraid his last name.
He's also a bodybuilder.
He's like, you know, he's retired.
And so there's like a large bodybuilding community out here.
And so I had them too.
And then I had like a team of three other females that helped me with my bikini,
helped me with my posing, just everything from like things you don't think about,
like your period.
Like how do we not get a period the week of peak week?
Because it's crazy.
I ended up not having it because my body fat was so low.
But how to kind of get around these things like stuff that the men,
my male coaches weren't going to know how to do.
So it literally takes it.
team of people to go, all right, you're going to stage.
So it's like, like really a team.
It is not just me by myself doing this.
Now that you've got the, you always had the look, but now you've got this look,
does any part of you want to train and get in the ring?
People keep asking me that so much.
And I'm like, it hurts, dude.
But you've been asked this your whole, like since Lichin Underground.
Yeah, the whole time, because I originally started wrestling.
And, you know, they came across my, the Lichita Underground.
executives came across my my Instagram or might have been like my Facebook or something like that.
And they're like, oh, hey, she speaks Spanish.
Hey, she can re-announce.
Oh, she can take a bump just in case, you know, you never know.
But yeah, it hurts.
And I don't see, I don't have it in me to like go and just go out there and just travel and
just take bumps all day.
Like I just, that's not where I'm at in life.
Like I really just want to focus on, you know, doing like my VO stuff, doing my acting,
like acting and doing my host stuff.
And only fans.
I know my only fans.
I'm so obsessed with my only fans right now.
I want to do my fitness company, which I'm working on right now.
And it's going to launch probably at the end of January, early February.
That's being built from the ground up with my partners.
So that's all I'm focused on.
Yeah.
And really, you can just focus only on a certain amount of things.
I know there's people are like, I do this, I do this.
I do this.
I'm well, no, I can't.
I need to just focus and dial in all the things that I want to do.
Especially if you want to become great at one of those things.
You have to.
The whole jack of all trades, I mean, it's cool to know how to have different skill sets.
But how do you really take like a company from like zero to incredible?
You have to give it like your all.
Like it has to be something you do every single day.
And so that's what I'm focusing on right now.
Yeah.
And having things like OnlyFans, I'm able to funnel it into other passions.
So I'm all for it and super excited.
You guys will see me posting a lot more fitness.
I'm going to have a completely different Instagram just for my fitness.
It's going to be an academy type thing.
Oh, really?
I'm excited.
Yeah.
It's going to be a membership-based thing.
So kind of like the gym, but with me.
So much has changed.
Like our last interview is like two years ago.
So much has changed since then.
For both of you guys.
Both of you and Brian.
Two years ago, we were, I was in L.A., right?
Yeah.
You were working for impact.
It was for impacts.
Brian was the champ.
Yeah.
Good times.
Yeah.
That was fun.
I remember he still had to pay for.
for parking, even though he was a champ. No.
He did. He did. He was like, I don't know what was going on. He was like, I don't understand.
Blah, blah, blah. I'm like, oh, my goodness. That's a good Brian Cage.
He was like, whoa, woo, whoa, whoa, blah.
Please don't kill me, maybe. Okay. No, no.
I know. I love you. And you got to, look, I understand how much you love him.
You got a lot of heat for what you said about him. I did.
I understand where you're coming from, though. You know, and I think I'm his wife, right?
I would guess.
I would, yeah.
I'm not going to be like, well, I really wish things were different.
No, but I can use him more.
Like, I love my husband.
That Brian Cage is probably your favorite wrestler.
He is my favorite wrestler.
He is.
I actually have like a couple of favorites, but he's for sure my favorite.
That's how we even started talking.
Like, I'd call him my favorite at Lucha Underground all the time.
So, yeah, I think he's incredible.
He's just like, really, there isn't, there are,
many wrestlers that look like him and have the discipline and have, you know, I know they all love.
Everyone loves wrestling. You know, I'm completely enamored by it as well. I'm in a different way,
but I feel like, like, gosh, let's just, I want to see him more like I used to, right?
Like, it's just like Alucro under guy who's being used all the time. And it was different
companies, right? At Impact, he was, you know, the champion. And I'm not asking, hey, let's just
make him the champion. No, I just like, I want to see my husband more, you know? Like he comes out the
first episode, you see him at AEW, he's fucking ripping fucking ladders apart. The first time,
I don't know if you guys know this, but when he was at Lucha Underground, when the first thing we see
him is like ripping the freaking, you know, the bell apart. He comes down and he's like,
and he's doing these like body guys, strong things that you don't really see that guy as much
anymore. You see more of like, you know, like the cruiser way. Like it's, you don't see that.
And I don't know. I just for me, because I'm, yes, I am biased. Like he's my husband. I want to see more
of that. And so I, I, you know.
did get heat because I'm spicy.
Like I'm spicy. Like, I'm very
straightforward. I'm not going to just be like,
oh, well, I'm just going to...
I really wish. Like, no,
fucking use him. Like, come on.
It obviously bothered you and... You could have ignored
that comment on Twitter.
You know, oh, it wasn't even that. So it was a...
It was like, I found
an article because there are a lot of articles
written about this. I found an article
and then I was like, I posted it. But then I got
really spicy about it. Maybe I shouldn't have.
But then he got all the heat. He didn't even
He didn't even say anything.
Yeah.
I know.
I know.
He got all the heat.
I do feel, I do feel bad about that because he, you know, loves wrestling.
He loves AW.
Absolutely adores Tony.
Um, loves being there.
And, and I feel like all of it came from the love of wanting to be more, like, involved.
And that's really, it was just from a passionate place.
And because I'm all loud, loud, loud, loud, I got him in trouble.
And I do feel bad for that because that wasn't my intention.
Yeah.
Even though when I look back at the videos on, well, damn, I should have just not been as spicy.
but damn, it's hard.
It's hard, man.
I get myself in trouble.
I got to sugarcoat things a little bit.
I would say from the outside looking in that his time will come.
Yeah, yeah.
You can't look at his body of work and his body in general and go, yeah, no, this is, this is it for him.
Like, his time will come.
I know.
It's just maybe not today or tomorrow or next week.
Yeah.
And I feel like it was the impatient kind of my, just, I was like, man, I just want to see more of it.
I just like, I miss seeing my husband.
I'm a fan, right?
You're an only fan?
You want to see more of him and you're a fan.
I see where this is going.
I actually might put him.
I kind of want to put him in my only fan somehow.
I don't know.
Somehow.
How many women are your subscribers?
There is a lot of women.
Wow.
The women are actually a little bit more aggressive than the men.
I've been getting some private messages from you ladies that are.
I can't wait to talk to you in like three weeks and be like, so how's it going now?
You're going to be like, oh, my God.
It is insane.
But yeah, so hopefully, you know, I can see my husband, you know, killing it a little bit more now that, you know, hopefully some of the heat falls off, you know, because I feel like when wrestling, the new, there's always something new that's happening. That's like the talk of the town. And so, you know, I'm sorry, babe. I didn't need to get you all the heat. I just miss seeing you on TV. That's really what it is. You know, AW's dope, man. I love more wrestling on TV. I love more of my husband on TV.
too, though. That's really what it is.
There is so much wrestling on TV right now. So much. I think that's phenomenal.
Although we have wow coming back, right?
I think they're based out of Las Vegas. So that's dope to you. I'm all about like the women and,
you know, I'm a little biased, right? But yeah, it's exciting. It's cool. It's a cool time
for wrestling. Yeah, and I love what you bring to it.
The growl? The grow. The crazy. The crowsiness. It's not crazy. It's exciting.
And I actually, I just interviewed Bruce Buffer. You know, the legendary boy.
It's the Octagon.
Got the cool guys.
Oh, it was so fun.
Can I just be here?
Can I, like, hold your water when you're doing that?
No, we have coasters for that.
Oh, God.
Do we really?
Oh, no, God.
We need to get.
Sorry.
I got it.
So right.
Sorry, I wasn't going to put it back down.
It's okay.
It's okay.
We got a backup coaster.
I guess I'll never have to have a beautiful.
Beautiful table here.
No, no, it is beautiful.
But what I was, what I'm saying is Bruce Buffer brings this serious
passion to what he does.
And you do too.
Well, I mean, any great ring announcer does.
It's like really from you, it is from the gut, from the heart, from the, like he is just
Well, it's the same with you.
Because his talking voice is kind of like this, just a normal voice.
But then when he announces, it's like, Connor, ma.
And they're like, where did that voice come from?
Yeah.
And that is you in Luch Underground.
I miss it.
I miss it.
I do.
And being at Impact just recently, really made me go.
damn, I do miss it. So I'm 100% open to ring announcing and continuing doing that. And we still have a
relationship. So they do have, um, Penzer is there still. So, you know, he's there. He was a little
worried that he was going to lose his job. You are slightly better looking than him. He's like,
he did admit to that. He was like, you know what? I'm expecting it. I mean, that's it. I've had a
long career. I was like, oh, I don't do that. He's amazing. Someone that I have looked up to that when
I started ringing out and saying like, okay, who do I, who do I study? Who do I? And he was,
you know, at the top of my list. And he is, you know, just incredible, like, inspiration to me.
So just to have him saying that to me, because I was just on his podcast recently. I'm like, please don't.
Because I don't even know how to react to that. It was humbling, but it's almost like, no,
like, you are, you are who you are, right? And, you know, your career will continue. Like,
it's in, in Spanish. I say, I don't know you speak Spanish, but like, look up, lo, like, lo,
Like, what is for you is always going to be for you.
So that's his space right now.
I'm not here to be like, oh, let me take your job.
I was just happy to be there and be part of something such so incredible.
Like, just like being able to work with Mickey.
Like, I'm just like.
Yeah.
There's some great talent.
I don't even know how to act like around her.
Like, if you're watching this, I don't know how to act around you, even though it might look like I know how.
I don't know how.
Like I'm just always like, ah, you're amazing.
Okay, bye.
Like, I got a picture with her.
I didn't even, I think I was shaking.
Let me see this.
Like, I have, I posted.
Oh, it's on, it's, I have to, let me scroll.
Is this the one on Instagram?
Yeah.
I saw this.
And I'm just like, like, what?
Like, I don't know how to act with you.
And it's just, you know, I have these, like moments.
And it's just like, Gail, for example.
Oh, she's so, she's the best.
You know, and she's the one who actually called me was, Melissa, you're going to
ring an announcer.
I'm like, now, did she say we want,
the Melissa from Lucha Underground?
We want, just be you?
Just be, just come.
Yeah, just be Melissa and you're going to ring announce because, like, we feel like you
should be the ring announcer.
Like you, I mean, it's an all-woman show and we want you.
And I'm just like, well, it's a no-brainer.
Come on.
Yeah, it was really cool.
And I want to do it again.
So Impact.
I'm waiting.
Impact does a lot of stuff in Vegas.
They do.
They're actually here this weekend, I think.
Right?
They're here this weekend.
So I'm going to come by and just accidentally start ring announcing.
Just pop on by.
Is Moses a ring announce?
I didn't know.
Oh, hey, I didn't even know you were here.
Oh, I just happened to be at Samstown Casino.
I just happened to be here in the middle of the ring while taping is happening.
So weird.
But yeah, I mean, I have, you know, great relationship.
Yeah.
You know, with most wrestling companies, not so much AWR right now.
But it's okay.
I love you guys.
I know sad music.
Tony, you're the man.
Everybody over there is, they're just, they're doing great things.
I just, again, my man, I miss him.
Yeah.
I miss him on TV.
We all do.
So it's what it is.
Okay, so we might be seeing you more in the ring as a ring announcer.
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
And I am not against wrestling and doing stuff.
I've done stuff with Brian.
I've, like, just for, for, it's momentary, you know.
I can't go up against, like, true female wrestlers.
who are now like above and beyond what female wrestlers have ever been, right?
Like, they're just killing it more than the men even.
So I can't compare myself to that.
So I'm always humbled in their presence.
But I have, you know, I would love to work with someone like, you know, I don't know,
like havoc would be fun to work with.
Like, she's phenomenal.
I love her.
And these are like my friends where I feel like I've had these conversations with them.
I'm like, if we ever had to do something like in the Indies, like would you be telling?
She's like, hell yeah.
hell fucking yeah like i'll fucking take a bump for you i'm like whoa like what i mean that's a little
excessive don't be bumping for me but you know and then stuff like that so i know the girlfriends
that i've made with like you know we we do stuff so i'm not against it because it's like you can never
say never but you're right though that the bar keeps getting raised raise raise higher and higher
in wrestling in general but women's wrestling especially like it's so much better this year than
it was last year and like next year's going to be even better than this year and i can't wait to see it
Three or five years from now.
I love it.
So you're right.
The bar is raised so high.
And I have a daughter.
So, you know, I might, maybe she, she loves, I mean, she's in gymnastics now.
So she's very, very, very active child.
And how old is she?
She's going to be four.
Okay.
So I'll interview her in 14 years when she's a pro wrestling.
I think she might, if we put her in wrestling, for sure, it'd be probably, like, around like, six or seven.
Like, I would want her to, like, do her earlier just so because she's a,
flipping around, you know? It'd be just fun to get her accustomed to if that's something that
she wants to do. I just feel like she likes it because she watches it. And she was with me when
I was ring announcing as I ring announced until I was about six months pregnant. So like she,
she knew. She was so comfortable at shows. Like she would fall asleep while fans are screaming.
Like she was that used to it because she was used to hearing it inside. So it's crazy.
At what point in your career did you start to feel really accepted?
by the wrestling audience?
I want to say like,
I would like the third year,
I would say like,
like they're probably the third season
of Lucha Underground
where I felt,
look,
right away,
they embraced me,
right?
Absolutely.
That crowd's incredible.
It was like, yeah.
It was incredible.
They embraced me right away.
But it wasn't until I would,
I think like,
and then I started learning
because I was asking questions
and I would engage with the fans
and just kind of see what they liked,
what they didn't like,
like all that stuff.
Obviously,
while still being myself,
right?
You know,
I don't cater to every,
on. You clearly know that. I love my fans. But as I'm trying to figure myself out, they help
me find, like, kind of ground me in who I am, like, as a wrestling personality, if you will.
And they continue to, like, follow me along my career, whatever crazy thing I decided to do.
Oh, I'm going to do only fans. They're like, fuck yeah, Melissa. I'm just going to tip you a lot
today. Fucking love you guys. Like, what? Like, it's what I, I feel like they're so supportive.
And I feel like around that time is when I felt fully, like, completely, like, engulfed.
embraced by them. And I think, like, I can do no wrong with, at least, like, my real fans.
Like, they're just like, whatever, Melissa. Like, we got your back no matter what. Like, I love that.
And there's nothing like that in the world. And again, very humbling all the time.
What's that, that concept of, like, you just need a thousand diehard fans. There's like a book about it.
Is that? Is that what it is? And then that you're set, basically. You're good. Yeah.
Really. I need to read that. That totally makes sense.
If you had a thousand fans on your only fans, you'd be living, like, next to.
David Copperfield somewhere.
There are some girls and only fans.
I mean,
they are just making like a ridiculous amount of,
like,
I don't know what all it.
I know Katie is killing it.
Katie Forbes.
Katie Forbes is killing it.
Girl,
she's one of the girls I was always like,
just do it.
Like,
she's like,
just do it.
I'll show you out.
Just do it.
I'm like,
okay.
And her content's phenomenal.
What if,
are you going to start
collaborating with her?
I want to do some stuff.
I'm going to actually be collaborating with a lot of only fans,
like personalities.
Oh,
this is so smart.
There's also males.
too, though. There's like everything. And not everyone is like, it's not just the set. Like, there's
literally people doing cooking shows on OnlyFans. Like, it's not, it's not just that. That's just
one of the layers, which is great. So it's kind of like Patreon turned up a little? It really is.
On Patreon, I really tried with Patreon. So those of you who have been following me on Patreon,
but they kept like, I kept getting in trouble for posting things. And it wasn't even like,
like, like what I have on Onlyfans. But I just kept getting in trouble. And I'm like, I can't
with, I can with Patreon right now.
Like, they're not letting me do any.
So you're not doing Patreon anymore?
No.
Okay.
Only, only fans.
Only, only fans.
That's it.
Only, only fans.
But, and we can't, this is the funny thing.
You can't say only fans on Instagram.
I didn't know that.
Did I not know that?
That became a thing, right?
It's just O-F?
Oh, is that?
Like, I thought that was just like, hey, cool, right?
Oh, no, I think.
I don't feel like saying only all the whole thing.
I think that that Instagram's like, oh, I see,
what you're trying to do here.
Really? I didn't know that.
Because they have like little, I mean,
if you go on like the Giffy section where you're trying to find like.
That has nothing to do with Instagram.
It says, no, really.
The gifts there are made by the website giffy.com.
And anyone can just put them up there.
But Instagram allows it, but I can't say it.
I have gifts for my fishing company on there.
If you type in Wu tungsten, there's all kinds of gifts that I've created that are on there.
See, and they don't say anything.
You could make it once a Santos gift.
And they just automatically approve it.
Okay.
See, I didn't know.
I just thought, okay, I didn't know that.
We'll see.
I wonder if I'll get in trouble.
Ask your only fan's friends.
That doesn't make sense.
Like, I've had certain things taken off my Instagram because, like, it was just too
sexy for Instagram, which is weird because sometimes I'm scrolling for things.
And I'm like, her entire ariola is out, but I can't show my belly button.
Cool, man.
I don't know who I need to talk to or what strings I need to pull.
But you had one where you put like a big black X over.
My nipples.
Yeah, to make it approach.
Yeah.
So that, you could, you could keep doing that.
The fact that that was not taken down was surprising to me.
Well, you censored it.
I did, but like.
Is the uncensored version on OnlyFans?
It's on Only fans.
There we go, guys.
There it is.
I love that he loves my OnlyFans and you're going to give me a lot more business because
that's the whole point.
I think a lot of people are just finding this out for the first time.
Yeah, I mean, it's, it was pretty crazy.
I wasn't going to do it, but then I'm like, I'm going to do it.
Then I'm not.
And then my management company was like, just do it.
Okay, now I'm sure you've had some odd requests.
Um, nothing.
Okay, it's been 24 hours.
Yeah.
There's going to be some odd requests.
Now, how are you going to handle those?
I will handle them as they come.
Yeah.
So far, it's been.
No pun intended.
Hmm.
I, that would be obvious.
I don't know how to deal with all that.
That's going to happen.
See, that's a little, I know what I mean?
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It happens for a lot less.
You know what I mean?
that kind of situation.
Guys are just, guys just do things sometimes where I'm like,
and girls, the most odd request was just recently on my Instagram and it was from a female.
Okay.
It was a girl.
Ladies, you're beating out the boys right now.
This is how it should be, though.
It's fine.
Yeah.
It was just like, whoa.
Oh, okay.
It's just been really exciting seeing you grow in all of these different aspects of all the
different businesses that you have.
Yeah.
And so I'm excited.
So my fitness business will be launching in February.
And can anybody work with you?
Anybody can work with me.
Okay.
I have a partnership, so it's also with a team.
Very sophisticated software.
We're going to be able to break down.
So like you come and you're like, hey, I need to put on like 10 pounds of muscle or I
want to lose weight, whatever it is.
But you're like, I have injuries.
Like, I went through this.
I have allergies to this.
I don't.
I hate fish.
Like, so this is literally going to, we're going to break down and we're going to put
together a diet plan that is specifically made for you. And it changes, right? And you can
always, like, take, like, let's say you don't want this meal. You can always switch it out and we'll
give you something different. So it's going to be one on one. I'm going to have, like, weekly
meetings, like on Zoom with, like some of my, you know, like, people that want to jump on and talk
and hang out and talk about what their week was like. So it's going to be a support group.
So not just your diet plan in the gym as well and outside of the gym. There are people that
don't want to work out in the gym and I get it. So there's going to be something for everybody.
And it's going to be really, like, digestible.
So it's not going to be super expensive.
I know we're still living in, like, crazy times.
And people are like, oh, I don't want to.
But on that same note, we are living in crazy times, a disease that primarily will really, you know, attacks people that don't have good health, right?
So, like, it sucks.
Like, I've actually had COVID just recently, and it was awful, right?
And so, and I'm healthy, right?
And, you know, so if you can get your, what we have control of is our body.
We can control what goes in.
our body, right?
We can't really control a virus that we really can see as much as we try and we can mask and
vaccinate and do all that stuff.
But we can control, like, how we eat in order to be prepared and have the right defenses
just in case it comes.
Like, you know, it just happened to me recently.
And so it was actually right after my show.
Oh, wow.
I ended up getting COVID because my immune system was very, very low, become very, very depleted.
End up getting COVID.
My mom, I got it from my mom.
She needed to get help as well.
She's fully vaccinated as well.
was really, really sick.
But I made, you know, I was like, all right, mom.
Like, I'm always on my mom's health.
So I was like, okay, you got to take these vitamins.
So we're both sick together and like kind of helping.
But I know that because my mom is healthier because I'm in her life.
She was able to combat it.
And my mom's, you know, close to 70 years old.
So it's those things.
So, you know, a lot of times, oh, I don't know how, I feel like I can't afford this.
I'm like, but, you know, $49 a month.
Like, I feel like you can afford this for your health, right?
Like, I feel like we can reroute things, you know.
It's going to be $49 a month?
It's going to be $49 a month.
That's so affordable.
Unlike a membership, like base, right?
And there's no contract.
There's nothing.
Like, yeah, I tell people, though, give it at least three months so that you see real
change.
Like that, that, that quarter period of your life is really important because that's when
you'll see the most.
By that third month, you're going to go, oh, wow, this is, this is great.
And you're going to want to keep doing it, right?
People give up because they don't see results right away, right?
And during this time, I think it's important.
Like, right now, this stupid disease is not going anywhere.
Like, let's just get healthier as, like, a nation.
And then everything else should just be like kind of the icing on the cake, like all the medication and stuff that's coming because science is real and it works and we should be taking advantage of everything.
But let's take advantage of our own health.
Like, how can we do that?
And so we're going to be able to do that.
So people will be able to go on there and go, okay, well, I have allergies of this.
Like, I can't eat this.
Like, I hurt my ACL last year.
So I can do this.
Okay, cool.
We'll modify everything.
And it's not just me.
It's me and like a team.
So, and very sophisticated software that is working and something.
Jay might know about the same company that I'm actually partnering with. So I'm super excited.
And it's something that I'm so passionate about. And I love people feeling happy and fit.
And it's not just about looking that way. It's like what's going on inside, right?
That's the biggest thing. It starts from the inside out. Right. All that's going to, you'll start
looking better. You'll be able to be on your Instagram like Chris shirtless eventually.
But reality is, it's like, and pizza. But you can do all that. You're going to have pizza, all that.
So if you're watching this and you want it, you know, $49 a month, totally doable, it'll be $29 if you just want the diet.
Like if you don't want, if you know what to do with the gym, you're like, I just want to, I want someone to break down my diet for me.
It'll be a lot less.
So I keep telling people, I'm like, do it.
Ladies, you can afford it.
I know how much these nails cost.
About $100 every two weeks.
So you guys can afford a little bit.
Put the Starbucks down a little bit and let's get healthy.
We're going to be able to find this on your Instagram.
Yes.
I'm actually going to have a completely separate Instagram just for that.
Okay.
And yeah, man, it's called Bodies Fitness Academy.
So it's going to be just like that, like an academy.
Like, hey, we're going to be checking in and we're going to be doing this.
And, you know, it's going to be fun.
I mean, it's going to be fun watching people transform.
And we'll have challenges and things like that to keep people like, you know, excited to, you know, eat broccoli once in a while, you know.
Look, it's been fun watching you transform.
And so good to have you here in the studio.
Your name is back there.
Like, speaking of transformation.
I feel like I should be interviewing you right now.
Like, this is incredible.
Yeah, they did such a good job.
Yeah.
Blue Wire's the best.
It's because you're amazing, though.
Like, your transformation has been mind-going.
I just want more.
I just want more with everything.
And you were going to get more.
You have that, you have the cahones.
You have the testicular fortitude.
I do too, though.
And I don't even have cystic testes.
Is that going to say that?
Sure.
Okay, I don't know.
I've said a lot of bad news today.
They're all, it's the internet.
It's the internet.
Yeah, it's a fun.
I end every conversation with the same question, so I will ask it of you.
Okay.
What are three things in your life that you're grateful for right now?
I'm grateful for my healthy body that allows me to be here talking to you.
I'm grateful for my family, which includes my daughter and my dogs and my lizard and my little frog at home, like all that.
And I'm grateful that on that same note with my family that I was raised always to believe I can as opposed to I can't.
I love that.
Yeah.
What's your lizard's name?
Steve.
And your frog?
My frog, CC.
My daughter just named him.
It's sad because, like, she had two other fish that died in the same tank.
And this frog is resilient.
I don't know how he's still alive.
Oh, an aquatic frog?
Yeah, he's aquatic frog.
Yeah.
He's just, like, doing, he's swimming all day.
He's super happy.
two fish have died. He don't even care. Like, he's just like, whatever, dude, keep bringing him on.
I don't know why these fish keep dying. It's depressing. I worked at a pet store in the fish department.
Maybe I can help you out. Really? Shut up. What kind of fish did you? You're lying to me.
I'm serious. You too. That was in high school. Okay. I know, but that's incredible. What kind of
were they? Laddies, Mollies? No. My gosh. Neon Tetras.
No, my gosh. African sick lich. The ones that, like, you can't put in a tank together.
Sicklids. No, they, they kill each other if they. Siamese fighting fish?
Betas.
Betas.
Thank you.
My gosh.
Why can't.
Is that what they're called
Siamese fighting fish?
Yeah, betas.
Yeah.
Jeez.
I've always just thought
there are betas
and he just like
takes it up a notch.
Like that's what they are.
Well, if you're putting them in together,
I think we know why they've got it.
So no.
No, it's one at a time
and I asked the lady at the store
and she was like, no, you can have a frog
and you can't.
I can't just put this bait in here.
Not like depressing of a life as that.
Yeah.
She's like, no, you can put a frog in there.
Thing dies in like three days.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
Frog, happy as, happy as a queen.
Yeah, that frog's going to live forever.
Loves being in there.
He's like going hard the whole day.
I get another one because my daughter thinks it's sleeping, but it's dead.
So she's, I don't want to traumatize my child.
I get another one dead within the week.
I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing.
What am I doing wrong?
Are you feeding him blood worms?
The little blood pellets?
Well, is that what they're, there are these little pellets that I...
The beta pellets?
Yes.
And the frog looks those, too.
Yeah.
He's just like, whatever.
Like he doesn't care.
Like he's so resilient.
Look, this could be a whole other hour-long podcast.
You're going to have to really tell me.
Yeah, because like, baby.
Do you have any shells or anything like?
I do.
Okay, that's it right there.
Oh.
Yeah.
Like a shell you found on the beach or something?
No, I brought it from the store.
From the store.
But it's a shell?
It's like a little shell.
It's like, you know, like decorative, decorative.
Is it made of like porcelain or?
I, whatever.
If it's an actual shell from like the ocean?
You're not supposed to.
No.
Oh, okay.
Well, I don't know.
I don't think it is.
I bought it at the store, so I'm assuming it's material that is okay.
This is, that we've gone down quite around.
Dude, now we're talking about the beta.
But yeah, those are the things I'm incredibly thankful for.
We'll just kind of really back in.
I mean, I had no idea that betas were a thing in your life.
You're so incredibly talented in all the things in life.
You're going to be a good dad if you ever want to be a dad with you.
You know about little fish.
You know about the pets?
You know what I mean?
And kids love the pets.
I'm telling you right now makes them so happy.
My kid can play with your kid.
Yeah, like it will be headlocking your kid.
I mean, if you're okay.
So good to see you.
Thank you.
What a conversation.
Maybe not.
Well, I love it.
No kids anytime soon.
Yeah, it's a lot of responsibility.
Just stick to the fish.
Stick to the betas.
That's easy.
Well, Melissa, thank you.
Thank you.
I appreciate you.
Thank you, all.
There we go, my friends.
How fun is she?
Thank you so much for hanging out with us in Las Vegas.
Big thank you to Melissa for joining us live at the Blue Wirest
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So I'll share it here as well.
never take criticism from people you wouldn't take advice from.
I'll say it one more time.
Never take criticism from people that you wouldn't take advice from.
Be great, be grateful.
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