Insight with Chris Van Vliet - ODB - from wrestling to food truck owner. Why she says losing her food truck to a fire was the best thing to ever happen to her

Episode Date: January 26, 2021

Impact Wrestling star ODB (Jessica Kresa) talks with Chris Van Vliet from her home in Florida. She talks about why she is making a return home to Impact Wrestling, starting her food truck called "ODB's Meat and Greet", audition for the first season of WWE's Tough Enough, making her AEW debut at Dynamite, working with Eric Young, what's next for her and more! Support the show by supporting our sponsors! Get your energy back, sleep better, and block out the unhealthy effects of blue light with BLUblox. Get free shipping worldwide and 15% off by going to https://blublox.com/CVV or enter code CVV15 at checkout. If you enjoyed this episode, could I ask you to please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcast/iTunes? It takes less than a minute and makes a huge difference in helping to spread the word about the show and also to convince some hard-to-get guests.  For more information about Chris and INSIGHT go to https://chrisvanvliet.com Follow CVV on social media:  Instagram: instagram.com/ChrisVanVliet Twitter: twitter.com/ChrisVanVliet Facebook: facebook.com/ChrisVanVliet YouTube: youtube.com/ChrisVanVliet Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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O-D-B. O-D-B in the house. Oh boy. What's up? Here we go. I don't even know what to expect from this. This is going to be awesome. I love it. You look like you could jump in the ring right now and have a match. Yeah, I'm all jacked up. You are jacked up. And like, I think that this is the interesting thing about you is I don't know where ODB the wrestler ends and where ODB the woman begins. Definitely a woman. Oh, yeah. So where are you these days?

I'm in Ormond Beach, Florida. I'm here for the winter. I'm expanding my food truck and hanging out. And I'm not missing the snow back home in Minnesota because that's where I usually am. Yeah, it's definitely a lot colder. Look, I'm originally from Canada. I'm not missing the snow right now either. Oh, Canada.

Yeah. So I'm kind of like, we're neighbors. Yeah, pretty much. We had or had have similar accents, you know, being from that part of the world. Oh, yeah. You're driving the food truck to dynamite. Is that every week?

That, yeah, I've been going every other week. They do live shows. So I've been going every other Wednesday. That's been great. I started out just tailgating for the fans because they've had about up to a thousand fans per show.

Great. And then I got backstage and I haven't been backstage in a long time. So it's kind of weird. And then I just. showed my food truck up backstage and some of the wrestlers came out and the crew guys and all the camera guys at AEW are my teen A-boy so it was cool to see everyone. So if I were to walk up to your food truck, it's called the meat and greet food truck. What am I going to see on the menu?

Well, you're going to see some porky nachos. You're going to see the pork mania. The meat in a cup and the meat in a cup is my favorite. literally a cup, it's like a Red Solo cup. It comes in three different sizes. Pick your cup size, B, C, or double D. And then it starts out homemade baked beans, my pulled pork, coleslaw, and a pickle all in a cup. Oh, that sounds amazing.

So is that your most popular item? That is. That is. Everyone is funny to see people when they come up. They're like, eating a cup, what's that? And they start reading it. then they're like BC double D. Oh, I get it. Yeah. And everybody wants double D, right? Oh, yeah. Well, some people are like, oh, I don't know if I can handle the double D. And then you get all that weirdness out there, you know. Have you always loved cooking? Yeah, the one thing about cooking is it brings people together. And I've always been an entertainer in and outside the ring. Like I love my lifestyle. Even back home growing up, my parents would have parties in the garages.

You know, they would have little bonfires, drink their beer. And us kids would just ride our bikes around and wait for someone's parents to yell at us to get home. And I just love being around people. And like, I started out cooking in crockpots, you know, and Megan. And then it's just been a thing for me. I just love, I love cooking. I mean, I'm not like a big fancy chef or nothing, but we're a pretty damn good smoker. I like to smoke the meat.

Growing up in that part of the world, there's a lot of comfort food. Like, I feel like chili is a really big thing in the Midwest. Chili and hot dishes. So, like, tater tot hot dish is amazing. Meatloaf has been awesome. Like, anything you can put in a crack pot is amazing. Right. Anything you can put in a crop.

Man, I love it. It's also, like, a relatively easy way to cook for people who aren't chefs like me. Well, that's the thing. Like, you can literally in the morning put whatever you, you want in there if you want to put chicken, put some vegetables in there, chili, and let it cook all day, and then it'll be ready for you when you get home for dinner. So talk to me about growing up in Minnesota, were you always a massive wrestling fan? Oh, my God.

I got to send you some pictures. Yes, I love, because Minnesota is where a lot of the guys got started. Like, you know, with the AWA, with the Gagnas, you know, he had Rick Flair, how old and get their star, the Roald Warriors. And, oh, God, just going to those shows. I was, I hated to help Kogan growing up. And I loved, like, macho man and Ultimate Warrior. And we'd have our signs and stuff.

And it was just like, I just loved it. And we would, my, yeah, our parents would take us to me, my brother, and our friends to shows. And then I found out that a lot of the guys had, it's called the gym in Minneapolis. and they all hung out there. And I think the road warriors actually owned the gym. And so me and my brother would stand outside waiting for him.

And I remember Larry Zabisco told me to buzz off. He's like, get out of here, kid. I was like, what a dick. But now he's cool. But the one guy that was really cool to me was Barry Darso, smashed from demolition. I actually have a kick-ass picture of me. and him were both in our Zubas

and I have a Venice Beach muscle shirt. I think I have a mullah too. So did you decide early on this is it? I love wrestling. I want to try to be a wrestler when I grow up. Yeah, like, but they were so larger than life back in the day. They were so colorful and like, you know,

seeing the honky tonk man come out, macho man in his robe. I'm like, oh my God, who are these men? And then like, you know, I went off to college and stuff, came back home and I was like, that's what I want to do. I want to get all jacked up and go rassel. You were not larger than life.

You're larger than life now. You weren't larger than life when you were growing up. I was a little quiet girl growing up. I don't believe that. I was definitely not ODB. Who was Jess when you were growing up? I was actually, don't laugh now. I was actually a ballerina for about 12 years.

growing up. I did like tab jazz and ballet. And I was also an a jock too. I played softball throughout my softball and hockey. But wrestling, like I got to, or dancing, I got to dance at the Super Bowl halftime show back in like when it was in Minnesota like 90 maybe. I'm not sure when it was. Wow. You know, I performed in the Nutcracker. Like I was, yeah, I was always a performer, but didn't know it was going to lead me to this. But there's got to be some sort of similarities between dancing and wrestling. I mean, they always call wrestling the violent ballet, but there must be some sort of similarities. Yeah, definitely, you know, you got to be on your toes and you got to have good balance and kind of have a good brain to remember stuff.

So, yeah, definitely help me, help me out in my wrestling. Do you still do any sort of dancing? Oh, God, no. No. I mean, I can go like this a little bit, but. No, I'm not a dancer. So where did the idea for the ODB that we now know and we now love, where did that come from? Well, actually, my first taste of wrestling, do you remember back in WWF days, it was the very first tough enough back in 2000? Of course.

Yeah, the one that Maven won. Yeah, Mavena, yeah. And I was like, oh, my God, easy way to get in wrestling. And I sent in my tape and my brother was like, you need a cool name. You need a name that like eventually people will chant. And you need like, you know, Jesse's not going to really be powerful. And he's like one dirty bitch, ODB. And I didn't even think about the Wu-Tang Clan, old dirty bastard.

Right. So then I did it and they made a nice little cool video and they sent me to New York. And I made it to the top 20. But I didn't make it on the show, obviously. But I'm so glad I didn't. because who knows what I would have been up to right now if I would have been a reality star. But yeah, but then I kept, I actually kept in contact with Al Snow. He actually remembered me from all those people.

He was like, and then I kept seeing him on the indie scene because when I got back home, I called up Eddie Sharkey who trained the World Warriors, you know, Sean DeVari, Austin Aries, Ken Anderson. And I just started training and bam, yeah. Bam, yeah. So you had no wrestling experience when you audition for Tough Enough? Oh, God, no, I didn't have any of my tattoos. My hair was like out to here. I think I had a perm at the time.

I didn't have my double bees. And I was like, hi, I'm one dirty bitch. I was saying, what's up? Do you think if you had wrestling experience, it would have worked in your favor on Tough Enough? Or were they looking for people that were green that could just be, you know, great storytellers on a reality show? Well, I guess, yeah, because MTV was what they were on. And WWF actually liked me. They're like, oh, yeah, we see, we see something in her.

But MTV said, no, she doesn't have a story. She wasn't, you know, they actually were asking me questions if I was a lesbian. They're like, like women. I'm like, nope, I like men. They're like, you sure? I'm like, yep, I love, yes, I love men. You probably still get that a lot. I think that if someone, and I know, I mean this in the best possible way,

but I think that if someone immediately looks at you, they go, yeah, she might be into girls. Yeah, I do get that. Someone actually said to me, they're like, so what are you into? I'm like, what do you mean? Men, women, I'm like, I love the cack. Not that it matters. Like, it doesn't matter one way or another. Exactly.

It doesn't matter as long as we got some blow going on. But I think that for whatever reason, the look that you have, have might make people think that. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, especially if I'm at like biker events and stuff. People see me all like, you know, my deeper voice and the bandana and all this stuff.

But I'm just a little girl, you know. A little girl. Yeah, probably have a lot of women that are into you. Oh, boy. Well, actually speaking of that, going into something like that. So since I, you know,

live in my airstream full time, time and I travel a lot of different campgrounds. And so I have this thing, you know, the flamingos. It's kind of like a camping thing. Yes. And so I have all my flamingos out. And I was in Louisiana, I believe. And this couple walked by and they're like, hey, nice to meet you, blah, blah, blah.

They're like, what's up with all the flamingos? I'm like, oh, I just love them. It's just an airstream thing, you know, fun little camping decoration. They're like, you know what it means, right? And I was like, no, they're like, well, it means you're a swinger. Is that right? Yeah. So I was like, oh, boy.

So I don't know if that couple was looking to swing or what. Do you still have the flamingos out? I do. So where we're doing this interview right now, this is your home slash airstream. Is this also attached? Is this the food truck as well? No. This is actually, this is the air.

This is great. Yeah, that's my fancy one. Actually, yeah, because actually, yeah, a lot of people get confused. They're like, okay, so you live in a trailer. Is it your food truck too? So my food truck is actually a food truck. So that's totally separate. And then my air stream, I actually pull it with, I have a regular truck that pulls the

airstream. But when I move and stuff and go back home or wherever I go, I have very good friends. So I have someone that will pull my airstream and then I drive the food truck. So where's the food truck as we sit here right now? It is in the back of the campground. So they have a parking spot for me. You couldn't just leave it at TIA Bankfield where the Jaguars are?

Yeah, what's up, Tony Con? What the hell? I mean, they've got plenty of parking there. Oh, God, it's huge. I could actually park it in the stadium. You definitely could park it in the stadium. So what is life like when you live in an airstream? Honestly, it's so, because I love hanging out with older people,

just like the older generation, their stories, their life that they've been through. And just like, so I'm in this campground and it's all snowbirds. I'm the youngest person here. They start their happy hour, probably around 11 o'clock in the morning. And they're passed out by five. but it's uh i love it though like everyone's so cool and you know they'll just anyone will just stop over hang out driving on the golf carts you know they'll have bands on the weekends here we

all go by the pool hang out and they have bingo on monday nights um so yeah it's just i love like yeah i just i just love listening to these guys stories and stuff it's just fun i've always felt like i've always felt like you're kind of like an old soul like maybe you were born, you know, 20 years too late or something like that. I agree. And I actually look back at the wrestling days. I'm like, I was in the wrong era. Damn it.

What era would have been great for your style of wrestling? Oh, the attitude era, totally. Dang it. Or even in the 80s, too. I don't know. I kind of go back and forth on those. But like, just being on the road with like freaking macho man and nasty boys, Steiner's like, oh my God, I would have been.

Yeah. With that, the attitude era was amazing, but women weren't really given the opportunities in the attitude era that you were given. That is true. You were such a trailblazer with the knockouts. Like women's wrestling is the way that it is now because of what you and Gail Kim and Mickey Jane and everybody else in TNA did 10 15 years ago. Thank you. I can't believe it was like freaking 10 years ago. Holy crap.

Damn. Wow. Yeah. It's like you look back because. I always look back, especially on like our social media stuff, like, memories start popping up and everything. And it's just so cool to like see some matches pop up and you're like, oh my God. And we really were like I loved. I was so blessed where I ended up with like T&A was awesome to me.

Doors always open for me too to come back. And it was just awesome. Like awesome Kong, Gail Kim, the beautiful people. I mean, it was just amazing. Like I loved, oh, I love that locker room. And I still all talk to the girls too. We pretty much talk every day most of us. Oh, wow.

Do you guys have like a group chat that you talk in? Yeah, we do that boxer. Oh, yes. I had Lisa Marie, Victoria here recently. She's the one I talked to her. She says hi. Oh, she's so sweet. She was sending so many voxes when she was here.

She is awesome. I talk to her pretty much every day. and that Mickey James. She's so sweet. So let's get this out into the open here and get this cleared up. You were not retired. You haven't wrestled in a while, but you are not retired. Gosh, no.

I actually, it's been about a year since I actually wrestled. I think I only wrestled a couple times last year. Never retired. Just kind of expand, you know, obviously expanded my brand into the food truck. And then the food truck took off. And now I'm like, I kind of want to get out there. I just don't want a food truck. A lot. You know, I want a food truck, but I want to be more special.

So I want a food truck. I want to get in the ring. I want to, you know, do this and that. And actually, actually, so I am actually getting back in the ring. Okay. So yes. Impact obviously called me. And that's a cool thing about stuff. Like I've never burnt a bridge in wrestling. Like, yeah, we all have our, you know, bad moments and stuff, whatever. You want to tell everyone to go F themselves. but it's just impact was awesome like T&A was always my home and then you know they buzzed me and every time I'm like oh gosh oh boy here we go but and all they're like hey would you want to come back you know and see what happens and and possibly bring the food truck so that's my ultimate goal is actually to drive my ODB's meat and greet into a stadium and kick some ass so when are we going to be seeing you on impact um so Soon. I'm actually, yeah, I'm actually leaving in a few days. Oh my gosh. Okay. So you're going, they're taping in Nashville right now. Is that right?

Yeah, in Nashville. Yeah. So are you driving the airstream to Nashville or the food truck to Nashville or both? I'll be flying. I'll be flying. Okay. And then coming back to Florida. And then coming back and then possibility in the future, hopefully next month, bring the food truck to Nashville. And you've got a whole new era of people that you can. can wrestle in impact now. This is going to be great. I know. And then I see jazz is there. So no one's ever seen me and jazz go at it on TV. And then Jordan Grace is another good one.

Taya, like they all just, I love, I love how the knockouts are still going as the knockouts. You know what I mean? They're all so different. They're all keeping it good. And I just love all those girls. They're a lot younger than me. But, so that'll be fun. I'll be. All of those match is a great. Also, Deanna Parazo, I think that you and her would have a great match. Yeah, I've never worked with her before. Yes. And this is funny. It's only been, what, four years since we last saw you an impact? Yeah, it's been a little bit. Yeah, I went back last year just for a little bit for a couple of shows. And then, yeah, it's, God, it's been probably like, I think 2014 was like my last official contract with them. So it's been a little

bit. Oh, wow. And what we recently saw you in NWA as well? Yeah, that was a good time. I had to wrestle Thunder Rosa. She's amazing. I loved, we had a lot of fun together. It was just a brawl. I feel like we saw for a long time. We'd still be seeing you, I think, in NWA if the world was a little bit more normal. I know, right? Dang it. But, you know, hopefully we're heading back that way again. Yes. Yes. We'll see. what happened here. So what's going to, you know, Impact has a relationship with AEW right now. So if you're back in Impact, maybe we see you in AEW. I mean, you've done some work there, but maybe we see like some sort of crossover. That actually is something I, because I'm not afraid

to pitch anything where they can say no, you know? I was like, that was actually one thing. I said, I'm like, hmm, Jacksonville's an hour away from me. I've been having my food truck there. why not drive the bitch right in you know and go after some of those chicks or you know like I think that would be yeah well we saw you in the battle royal

or battle royale at all out I thought that would turn into something more I mean it was such a nice surprise seeing you there but why was that the only appearance in AW I know I'm kind of like I kind of like I think the same thing too because I went there the reaction was like

holy because no because I had my food truck at the hotel and everything all weekend. And then I showed up and they're like, holy shit, ODB, you know. And then nothing. I'm like,

all right, well, cool. But they never really brought in a lot of girls, you know, that were named. And like, you know,

you never brought in any of the teenage girls or, you know, XWW chicks and stuff. But I think you need to spice that women's division up a little bit. Yeah. I mean, well, awesome Kong's there.

and Allie, I guess, spent some time in impact. But yeah, it totally makes sense to have you as part of that division. Yeah, because I can still go. I actually just had to buy a new wrestling outfit because I sold my last one. Oh, wow. But it'll be good. So we're going to see you in a new outfit when you return in Impact Wrestling. Yeah, it'll be the same kind of gimmick I wore with my boobs hanging out, my ass showing.

So, yeah. How long into your career did you decide that grabbing your boobs would be? be your taunt. I know, right? I remember the first time I was at Teen A was 07 when I officially signed with them. And I'm, they were, they kept saying they're like, why you keep grabbing your boobs? I was actually grabbing them just to make sure they were still there and not like hanging out. So I kept like going like, ah.

And they're like, keep doing it. They're like, it works. And then the bam thing came from OVW days. And then I was like, oh, bam. And then a lot of the boys were like, keep grabbing your boobs. And I remember, though, Spike TV was like, all right, can you not grab your boobs so much? And then I kind of slowed down for like a month. And then I said, ah, fuck it.

I'll keep grabbing my boobs. So it's Spike TV saying don't grab your boobs, period. Or, you know, limit your boob grabbing to a match. They said limit my boob grabbing. And they're like, don't grab onto it. Like, they're like, maybe give it a nice three count. So I was just like, whatever. So this is like a network executive telling me.

you how to grab your boobs. Yeah. I had a lot of, I had a lot of nice little talks from Teenay and Spike TV about my stuff. What else did they think was controversial? Oh, they just said, you know, kind of watch your mouth a little bit, you know, like I remember, um, like we do like little storylines and stuff and then I'd always, you know, make fun of the chicks that had like the wheeves in their hair and, you know, call them horror and stuff. And they're like, can you not call these women horrors? I thought, yeah. I bet you you'd get away with that on Access TV. I know.

Now, like, with no crowd, now it's like, I talk a lot when I'm in the ring. Like, I'm like, hey, come on, you bitch. That's all you got. I'm like, oh, my God. I can imagine what I'm going to be saying. We're going to be hearing it all. That's what's going to be happening.

You are probably going to hear me huffing and puffing and saying. My match will probably be one long beep. When did you decide, you know what, I'm going to buy a food truck. I'm going to make this thing happen. Oh, boy. Well, it started out. I was on a cooking show with Joey Fatone from InSink. And I did that, oh, gosh, probably a good eight years ago.

And we filmed it at my airstream in Minnesota. It was before my barbecue sauce came out. And we did it. And it got a lot of publicity. And everyone's like, oh, oh, that chick with the record. the airstream, you know, and then I got a phone call from a place called Pepper Palace. They make, they're in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, and they make hot sauce and barbecue sauce. And they contacted me about, you know, they're like, hey, we love to work with you about a barbecue sauce.

I was like, hell yeah. So we did that. And then I started traveling by myself in the airstream going to like barbecue festivals, Sturgis bike rally, Daytona Bike Rally, Texas. And drove around selling. barbecue sauce in my little 10 by 10 tent, you know, and being a vendor. And that was, it was a lot of work. And it was fun, though.

I mean, I experienced a lot, a lot of shit during those days. And it was fun, but it wasn't making me money. I was literally, you know, like buying sauce just to go to the next festival and then selling it and, you know, paying the bills and all that. And then a complete stranger just came up to me. they're like, you should get a food truck and, like, feature your sauces. I was like, oh, yeah. And I literally dived right in.

I got a food trailer to start and started it actually at Jimmy Hart's bar in Daytona Beach right outside the parking lot. And, well, my first year and a half, my two years was a shit show. It was like I had no idea what I was doing. I was all over the place. But now I got my shit together. Who works in your food truck now? Is it just you? It is just me.

I'll have, back in Minnesota, I have my nephew, Fletch that helps me out and some of my good friends. But it's me. It's me booking it, cooking, promoting it. Like, it's all me. Yeah, it's, yeah. The wrestling audience is very niche, right? Like, if you love wrestling, you love wrestling. If you're not into wrestling, you know, it's just a thing that's over here that you don't watch.

There must be a giant population of people. they don't know you as a wrestler. They just know you as a food truck owner. Yeah, it's kind of cool because like when they look at my food truck, like, you know, I have a cartoon face of me and I going like this.

And then I have like the wrestling belt outside. And I have all this stuff. And people look at it. They're like, wow, this is a cool setup. Good, good marketing and stuff.

And then they're like, who are you? And I'm like, oh, ODB, you know, I've been a pro wrestler. Like,

oh my God, that's so cool. So then, you know, you get a whole new, fan base. Like, it's pretty cool. They're just like, oh, keep it up. This is cool. What's the first question you get

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kind of balanced it out, I was like, well, now I'm like, now I would love to get back in the ring, you know, not full full time, but, you know, still kind of food truck at big events, hop on a plane, go wrestle, come back. And so, yeah, it's just, I love, like, just doing, because when you're entrepreneur, you don't want just one income coming in, you know what I mean? You want this, you want that. And, like, that's my goal this year is just to have, you know, just be everywhere. Yeah, what did you said you want to expand this?

You didn't just want to have a food truck. What's next? Oh, boy. Well, I'm actually just launching because 2020 actually was a very good year for me. My business, my food truck business took off amazing. I worked on myself. I hired a life coach. And I just really worked on myself.

And I'm actually launching a paid group for and you get me. So it's kind of cool. So it's like I'm going to be motivating and inspire. inspiring people. You're going to have me as a coach, and I'm going to be doing like weekly phone calls, live calls, and always available for people to.

So I really want to motivate, inspire people. I think that's the main thing about 20, when I love helping others. And I love seeing my friends and people win. You know what I mean? Yes. Like it's so awesome when you see all of us being successful.

I'm like, oh my God, I love it when like wrestlers, like, you know, get other stuff going on. It just makes me happy. It's cool to see people succeed. Is personal growth something that's always been interesting to you?

Yeah, and I've learned that in wrestling. Like, I learned a lot of stuff in wrestling, but the one thing is, like, you know, there's life after wrestling and you've got to be ready for it, you know, and I've seen so many people lose their lives over wrestling and it sucks, you know? And I think people just need a balance and stuff. And it's just like I really, I've always been focused. on myself, but really like invested, you know, some money into it and just getting my brain. Like I'm actually doing, I don't know if you ever heard of 75 hard.

It's a mental challenge by Andy Fricela. I know Andrew Ficella. He's amazing. I'm doing, I'm on day, what day? I'm on day 71 of this 75 hard challenge. And it actually came at a perfect timing to go back to impact. I'm literally wrestling on my 75. day. So I haven't. So 75 days, I had to work out twice a day. One has to be outside. No alcohol.

So I haven't drank in 71 days. That's probably losing my reputation right there. We won't tell anyone. Don't worry. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And like just working out, reading books every day. What else was there? Taking a progress picture every day, which I'm looking back. I got my pictures, I was like, holy shit. It's crazy. I mean, not only do you lose weight, but your mind is just more clear, less foggy. But I can't wait to have a drink on my 76 day. You know, we live in a world now where everybody calls himself a life coach or everybody is trying

to give out free advice on the internet. When you start to go down that path and go, you know, I want someone to really help guide me and help me make me a better version of me. Where did you begin? I actually started following this guy, Sean Whalen. He wrote a book on how to make shit happen. And I read his book and it was awesome. It kind of changed me a little bit.

And then I actually met him in Vegas about a year ago. And he has a group called Lions Not Cheap. And then he had a live thing in, I think in last June he did. So I drove to Utah from Minnesota, Utah. I was like 18 hours. I was like, I'll go on a road trip, you know, everything shut down, whatever. So I took a cool little road trip to Utah, and there was 200 people there, and he talked. He's a big, huge motivational speaker.

And then he had a lot of his buddies that are very successful talk to. And it was, it was pretty cool experience. I remember a lot of the girls back in the day at T&A, like Gail Kim and Christy Hemie, they loved going to these retreats. I was like, what are you guys talking about? I'm like, you're paying money to go have someone talk. to you, blah, blah, blah. Now I'm like, yeah, now I do that stuff. Well, I think the biggest thing is it's focusing on what you're doing right now because it's so easy to just kind of live in this moment, not think about what tomorrow or next week or

next month is going to bring. And I think that that's a big part of this. It's being specific on the goals that you're reaching after. Yes. Especially too, especially during this time. Like last year has been a shit show and so many people like, you know, drank more, stayed at home It gave you an excuse to be lazy, basically. Everyone's watching Netflix. What's the new thing on Netflix? And drinking more and hanging out more. It's just like, I did, you know, and gaining weight.

I'm like, I am not going down that route. Well, I've been saying that COVID is an introverts dream because there's so many people that would get invited to parties or out to, you know, events. And they'd be like, oh, I don't really want to go. I also don't want to say no. So sure, I'll show up. And now it's like, yeah, COVID. Can't go, don't want to go.

I know I'm kind of glad some stuff was shut down. I'm like, now I can focus on myself and not worry about missing, you know. What was the biggest thing that you felt that you needed to work on on yourself? Just my goal, like focusing, like staying focus, because I can be everywhere, you know what I mean? Especially running my business. Like, I really need to focus on the business part. Like, yeah, I can do like promote this, you know, cook that and park somewhere, sell my food. But I'm like, uh, the business part, I need to, you know, start focusing more on.

And, you know, then I, it's nice too because then I got to hire some people to, you know, help me with my business and stuff. So it's good to reach out to people. That's the one thing I learned too. Don't be afraid to reach out to people. Like me and you, we have so many freaking connections. Like in everything, you know. I, one of the main guys I reached out to was Robert Irvine. Oh, wow.

Yeah, Gail Kim's husband. Yeah. And they've always been huge supporters of me. And I love those guys. And Robert, like, I literally just talked to him like a week ago. And then he hooked me up with this corporate chef. And we've been, you know, they've been helping me out a lot. Just like, you know, the numbers and all that.

The stuff that, you know, I need help with. Yeah. I just like, you know, everything. Like, it's just cool to have that. And they appreciate that. You know, I think it's cool. Like if someone reached out to me and wanted some advice about something, like, I would think that'd be awesome. I think the biggest thing that I learned as an entrepreneur, because I own a fishing brand.

I own an outdoor brand called, Woo, Tungsten. I think the biggest thing I learned was delegation, because when you're starting out, you think that you need to do everything yourself. Yes. And I heard this great quote that really stuck with me. It's early on you will trade your time in order to make more money. And then as you kind of get going, you're so okay with trading a little bit of your money to get some more your time back. Yes, I love that. Love that.

That is true because you get, you worry so much about stuff and you're like, time is money. And you're time, you know, you're worth a lot. But when you're starting out, you're like, well, I could probably build this website. I could probably run this social media account. I could probably do the accounting. And then as you get going, you go, well, actually, I should probably hire someone who's an expert at this and they can take care of that. Yeah. And it's nice, too. It's like, oof, got some hats lifted off of you. So do you think that, I mean, you had such a great year in 2020. Do you think that COVID, hopefully, fingers crossed, knock on wood, as it starts to go away in 2021, is that going to be better for your business?

I think so. I really think, especially like being a small. business. I think a lot of people in 2020 have been supporting small businesses a lot, more, and they're going to realize, wow, small businesses, if you made it through this shit show, oh yeah, be ready for an awesome year and be ready for more support from people. I think, yeah, I think especially too, like I'm a food truck that does big events. You know, I do like concerts. I did the kid rock concert back in Minnesota a couple years ago at a casino and like doing those were like my money makers like I miss those I think once everything starts opening up again I that's it's yeah I think things are going to get ridiculous

like awesome what has been your best event for the food truck what's been the event where you you ran out of food because there was so many people oh it's been actually I have like top threes I have bring it um pretty much I did a lot of casino shows back in Minnesota because casinos are pretty big up there. And I remember running out, it was 4th of July a couple years ago. And I had a line. I mean, there was like five food trucks, I believe. I had a line nonstop.

And I had, I think I had a couple helpers that time. And I'm like, I was down to my last pork butt and I still had a huge line. I'm like, shit. I mean, I cooked, I think I cooked about 18 pork butts. That's a lot of meat plus chicken and stuff. I was down to it. I'm trying to like grab what I can to make a good portion. And I had to make the announcement and some jackass.

He's like, oh, you obviously didn't come prepared. I was like, what did you say? I jumped out of my truck. I said, excuse me? And, you know, we went off and then everyone started clapping, you know, and they're like, good for you for selling out, you know. Yeah. And then the people that ran the show were like, oh, my God, we apologize, you know,

that someone did that to him. Like, I don't care. It is what it is. So that like that but when you run out you kind of get pissed because I'm like oh my God I could have made so much more But I like selling out and then actually at the Starcad starcate starcast starcate starcate starcast right yeah starcass starcate they won in chicago Yep yeah so I did two of those with my old trailer I did the first one and I did the second one and both times yeah all day I mean I was working from literally six in the morning on my food truck until about 2 a.m. Like I was non-stop with it.

But I did awesome there. Those are some of my biggest sales right there. Well, you had the best location. I mean, you were right at the exit slash entrance. So as you're walking in, there's the food truck. As you're walking out, there's the food truck. You could. I mean, that couldn't happen like, you know, Conrad that put it all together.

He hooked me up with that. And then the hotel, the Hyde Hotel was awesome because not many hotels would do that. You know, they'd be like, oh, you're taking away our sales, but they loved it. They're like, you can use our kitchen. We got you. So it was a perfect, perfect place to food truck. I want to acknowledge you for continuing on with this, even though you had the giant setback of the fire on your food truck.

And I think a lot of people might have gone, you know, that sucks. It's not for me and kind of went on to something else. Yeah, because I remember that. Oh, God. I remember that night I was stoned his sleep and I was like my phone's going on. I'm like, what the hell?

They're like, your food truck's on fire. I'm like, huh? And so I went there and literally saw it just going up in flames. I was like, you're just kind of numb. I'm just like, uh, shit. And then it's kind of like, I mean, I knew I wasn't going to give up,

but it did suck at the main your whole business gone, you know? There goes your moneymaker. Wasn't making any money. I was like, awesome. This is going to be so fun. And then dealing with, with insurance and all that fun crap.

But then it ended up working out. Thank God for the wrestling world. I mean, Impact called me back, paid me very good. DDP reached out. DDP actually reached out to me in less than 24 hours. Like the next day, he's like, hey, ODB, it's DDP. I'm like, damn, what's up? Because I just did Starcast the following week.

So it was like perfect, I mean, don't say perfect timing, but it was. like all the wrestlers sought and then bam it blew up but honestly I look back at that and it was the best thing that ever happened I think I was outgrowing that food trailer um and someone from above obviously blew that bitch up you know and it got me my got me my dream food truck got me more publicity from it um it was a lot of work you know I there was a lot of times where I'm like like you know I cried you know and it's just like shit, now what? But I wasn't giving up.

And then I just, during that wintertime, you know, dealing with, or I might have enough money to buy a new truck, you know, what am I going to do? And then I, you know, just bartended. So I've always been a bartender. So I bartended at one of my best friends bar back home in Minnesota. And then got back into the wrestling world and got that money and ended up working out. Where was your food truck or food trailer at the time when it was on fire? It was actually at my buddy's bar.

Literally like five minutes from me. In Minnesota? I parked it in his parking lot. Yeah, in Minnesota. And he was actually out of town. And then he heard about it. He was like, holy shit. I'm just glad no one got hurt.

I guess before that, a bartender was literally out there smoking a cigarette by it. Wow. And I'm like, oh, my God, if that thing would have blew up and like, oh, I'm so thankful, no one got hurt. So what ended up causing the fire? They never investigated it, which, so like the next day, the, oh, the guys were there that night. And the guy was looking around. He's like, we have no idea. He's like, do you have any propane?

I'm like, no propane on the truck. It was all electric. And he's like, didn't come from your smokers. And maybe, you know, maybe it was an electrical fire, which I'm thinking it was because it was an old trailer built into a food trailer. and then they never came and looked at it. I was like, oh. But we're thinking this was an accident.

This wasn't arson or vandalism. No, we watched. There was actually a camera on it. So me and my buddy actually sat down and watched it. And we're like looking at it. We don't see anyone going around it. And all of a sudden, you just see like smoke coming out of the, of that there, the hood. And then all of a sudden it looked like someone just turned the switch on and bam.

It just, I was like, holy shit. Wow. So very quickly after that, an Indiegogo was set up to raise money if you could buy another food truck. You didn't reach the goal of 50,000. Does the campaign still get paid out to you? Yep, it still got paid out.

And then what was kind of cool, so everyone that donated, I actually shipped out a barbecue sauce to them, T-shirts and all that stuff. So, yeah, that was great. I mean, the wrestling world. It's like, you don't realize how much you're loved. I was like, damn.

I was like, this is pretty cool. But I think it's so important to key in on what you said that that's the best thing to ever happen to you. You know how crazy that sounds that a fire for your business got caught on fire? And that's the best thing to happen to you. I know, you look back, I'm such a believer in that stuff. Like everything happens for a reason. You know, don't wait for it to happen.

But, you know, if things, you know, I didn't mean, you know, being, you know, being, getting to that level where you want to be, it's not going to be an easy ride. You know, the journey is going to have some bumps in the roads, but this is how you handle them. What's the best advice that you have for someone who wants to start a food truck of their own? Oh, boy. Don't. Yeah, no. It's just like everyone wants to get into wrestling.

Don't do it. Well, I get that question a lot. Like some people just think, because they're a good chef, oh, I want a food truck. I'm going to do this. what, don't do it because you love it. I do it. Like, I look at other food trucks and I think it's awesome. Like, I'm doing a big food truck festival on Saturday in Sanford, Florida. And it's going to be 30 of us and we're all going to be so different. I love the uniqueness. Like, people get too, like, when they start a food truck, they're like, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that.

Just do it. You know, like don't think too hard. You know, I'm not a chef. I just have, you know, is who I am and, you know, people, I think if you're willing to put in the work and work your ass off, do it because it's worth it. But you've got to, I mean, it's not a hobby. Definitely not a freaking hobby. I think there's two types of people in the world. There's people like me who like to eat and do not like to cook. Cooking for me is a means to an end. Then there's people like you who like to cook and also enjoy eating at. I do. Yeah. Like when I'm on my food truck, I literally am like, I better try everything before I sell it, you know. But then it's funny, though, like when I come home, I'm like, I'm starving.

I don't want to cook. But I mean, I still love cooking. But sometimes when, you know, when it's just me, I'm like, I don't want to cook right now. And I don't really want to eat my food. I lived in Florida for five years. And when I would see the people working in food trucks, I don't know how you guys do it. It's so hot already in Florida. And then you're going to put yourself inside a food truck.

How do you pull it on? I'm thankful I don't have any deep friars or flat tops. So all I have is smokers on my truck. So it doesn't get as hot as people working with grease. So that is kind of enough. But yeah, I definitely won't be here during the summer months. Oh, yeah. Having a smoker in there, you must smell delicious all the time.

Like right now, you smell like delicious smoked meat, don't you? I literally smell like a pork butt all the time. I think I should bottle that shit up. It can be O-D-B. Yeah. I can actually smell my smoker right now. I'm like, oh, gosh. And it's not even plugged in.

I automatically smell it. Yeah, it's probably all over your sheets and every, like your entire airship always smells like that. Oh, yeah, it's probably hot bringing a guy back. Hey. I said that probably is hot. Like, oh, you're cooking something in here? No, that's just me.

Yeah, cooking me dinner? Yeah. So if that's your advice to someone who wants to have a food truck, what's your advice to someone who wants to break into the wrestling industry? Oh, boy. Enjoy it, have fun. I always say if you're not having fun, don't do it. But, I mean, God, getting into the wrestling business,

I think it's a lot easier now. I mean, there's so many places to work, you know, Everyone just wants to get, you know, to WWE, the big show. But there's so many other places you can work. Like, I've never been to WWE. I'm glad, you know, I'm happy with where I've been. And it's just so cool. There's so many different promotions to go and do it.

And it's so, you know, I think as long as, I mean, I love the wrestling world. I mean, I'm thankful that I got to do what I did. And, like, it's a fun. And you meet so many cool people, you know, all my good friends are all wrestlers. and you have a good connection. So when you find, you know, I'd say, you know, try it out. But it's not guaranteed, I can tell you that. I know there's going to be, I know there's going to be a lot of people that are watching this interview

that are certainly familiar with who you are, but maybe they've never seen an ODB match. Maybe they're not an impact fan. What's an ODB match that they need to look up right now? What's the go-to ODB match? Oh, boy. My go-to ODB. Oh, shit. that's a tough one.

I'd say, oh, man, that's our, I don't know if you want to go, like, way back in the day of, like, the good old teen A days. Definitely, ODB versus Gail Kim and Awesome Kong. I believe it was, it was a pay-per-view. I'm not sure. Maybe Bound for Glory, one of those. Yeah, just, or then also. Also, too, I also got married in the ring. So those are one of my, that's one of my favorite moments, getting married in a steel cage.

I look up ODB wedding. I think a lot of TNA fans, impact fans will definitely be familiar with the work that you did with Eric Young. And I feel like that took your character like up to another level. Yeah, it was fun when they put me and EY together. I mean, our chemistry just clicked. I mean, we had a blast. Like, we were just cracking each other up. like you should see some of our takes.

Like we would do stuff and they're like, did you guys just really say that? We're like, we got to do this again. And it was just fun. Like we actually, EY, we actually met in like 2003

backstage in Green Bay, Wisconsin in a WVE event. We were both like extras. And I was actually packed up my truck and move into Nashville where TNA was. And he's like, well, I'm going to Nashville.

He's like, let's follow each other. So we followed each other. followed each other, got to Nashville. I ended up staying there for a couple of years. And I think he stayed, or he's from Canada, but I think he stayed in Nashville for a little bit. And then, you know, that's where Tracy Brooks was and stuff.

And then we, we just, you know, stayed friends ever since. And then they, Teen, A is like, we want to put you two together. And we're like, all right, cool. When do you think you really, when do you think you really started to hit your stride as the ODB character that we, you know, became familiar with in TNA? Oh, boy. Um, it really hit, like, I think once, um, God, it was probably, I don't know, maybe my second year at TNA. They kind of let me, um, the one thing I loved about me is like I got to do other stuff besides just being part of the knockout division.

Like if I wasn't going after the title, um, I was still doing something like they gave me my own talk show. Um, I think getting my, I think it was like talking trash with ODB. So I got to be part of that And that was my idea that I pitched And so I always liked You know, Piper's Pit So I was like, I want to do a thing, you know Like a cool little talk show

And I think that's what kind of got my character a little bit Because I kind of, you know, I got to be more I just let it out. There's, I sometimes I watch my shit And I was like, what the hell was I talking about? I just went out. It was like, whatever. I think like they let me do me like, you know,

having a own talk show. went a date with ODB, being part of the guys division, you know, with EY, and just like doing just random other stuff was cool. Like I didn't always have to, you know, be the champion and stuff. So it was cool. I just feel like who you are the rest of the time, who you are outside the ring is so much nicer and sweeter

and different than someone might expect after seeing your character. Yeah, when people meet me, they're like, oh, you're, Oh, they look at me. They're like, oh, you're a lot smaller in person. They think I'm just like this huge chick or something that's going to rar, you know. I think they think you're like awesome Kong size. And she's big. Yeah.

I think they do. And I'm like, they're like, wow. They're like, we've got to be a lot bigger. I was like, well, thank you. I guess. You're just like, I'm all boobs. That's it. I know.

Right. Oh, yeah. So we're going to be seeing you an impact. Probably as this interview is coming out. Yeah, pretty much, yeah. This is huge. Yeah, it's, oh, boy. Oh, boy, you should put that on a shirt.

You've said, oh, boy, like 15 times in this interview. It could be a drinking game. Oh, boy. That's my new pro wrestling t-shirt. Seriously, oh, boy, perfect. Oh, boy. Where can people find you online? So you can go.

I have a website, ODB's meet and greet.com. And then you can follow me on social media, the Twitter, the Instagram, Facebook under the ODB bam. So I have all that listed. And yeah,

I'm always on social media. I love sharing my, I like getting more personal with people, like sharing, you know, my story and life, my, you know,

about relationships and all that fun stuff and traveling. So you're going to see more. or you're going to get more personal with ODB if you follow me on social media. And by the way, it's meat and greet like the meat that you would eat, M-E-A-T. Yeah, M-E-A-T, yeah. I end every interview talking about gratitude. And I have it behind me here. Be great, be grateful.

I think that if you can be grateful, you'll live a great life. So I want to ask you, ODB, what are three things in your life that you're grateful for right now? Oh, well, my health, grateful for that. I'm grateful for good people in my life. I surround myself with good people, my friends and family. And I'm grateful for something new that came into my life a few months ago. I'm not going to tell you what that is, but I'm sure you'll find out soon. Okay, wow, what a teaser there.

Okay, well, whatever it is, I'm very happy for you. Yeah. Thank you. you this was such a great conversation so good seeing this side of you know it's nice and yeah it was refreshing i like it we'll do one in person we'll we'll have some you know we'll have some of the food from the meat and greet truck we'll do this in person oh i can't wait to have like a fun wrestling convention and reunion with everyone i think that's going to be those are going to be now i can't wait for the first one to come i think that's going to be so fun for all of us if nothing

else this time has made us appreciate that stuff so much more right yes i agree i because before i was like another wrestling convention you know now i'm like can't wait to see everyone and hang out and you know yeah well thank you so much this was great well thanks chris this was awesome thanks for having me i appreciate it and stay safe out there and how is it in l.a right now everything's pretty closed We can hike and go to the beach, but we can't go to restaurants, can't even dine outside at restaurants. My gym is in a parking lot now. But I'm hopeful. They just opened up a mass vaccination site at a few of the stadiums here.

Oh, really? So I'm hopeful that we're heading in the right direction. Yeah, because you guys have been pretty much locked down this whole time. Pretty much. I moved here six months ago. And when I moved here, gyms were open for like, you know, a week or two. And restaurants were open, outdoor dining, and now, yeah, it's pretty locked down. But I think it's the right move so that we can head in the right direction.

Yeah, I agree. Just get this shit over with. Yeah. That's the perfect way to end this. There you have it. Isn't she so sweet? And I love how she said that her food truck burning down was the best thing to happen to her. Way to take a negative and turn it in to the best positive.

Ever. And I know you couldn't see her there because this is just the audio interview, although you can, of course, watch the video of this on YouTube. But she was smiling nonstop, just full of amazing energy. And as the artist, Mary Engelbright once said, if you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change the way you think about it. Be great. Be grateful. We will see you on the next one for some more insight. Jim Rome takes on sports. Why? Because I have a job to do. With rapid fire takes. So I don't want to hear from you lava pigs on this notion today. No idea what you're talking about. You're complaining more than you like to breathe air. It's like you get up in the morning only to complain and cry and moan on social media about things that you don't even understand.

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