Insight with Chris Van Vliet - R-Truth On John Cena's Heel Turn, Little Jimmy, Getting Wrestlers To Break Character, Funny Moments

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

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Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Van Fleet. Here we go. Welcome back to another one here on Inside. I'm CVV, Chris Van Fleet. Thank you for joining us on this one. And thank you for making Insight the number one wrestling podcast in the world. Hit a five knuckle shuffle on that follow button wherever you're listening. And if it's Spotify, could you take?

just a few seconds to leave a rating on there. It's so easy. Go to the show's main page, click the three little dots, dot, dot, dot, dot, and then you'll see rate show. That'll pop right up. If it's Apple, oh man, a review would help so much on there. So go to the show's page, scroll all the way to the bottom. You'll see the five stars, and then you'll see write a review. So if you're listening on Apple or Spotify, and that is the majority of you, I will thank you in advance for that. This was such a fun one. I was honored to have Our Truth as my special guest for Insight Live in Las Vegas for a sold out show. So many of you who are listening right now were there with us live. I got to meet a bunch of you, but I just need to say it again. Thank you for

spending one of your nights during WrestleMania Week with us. And I hope to see you at our next live show. It's August 1st in New York City the Friday before SummerSlam. Grab those tickets at CVVTix.com, CVVT-I-X.com. Again, Vegas, what a night. And you already know this, but our truth is just the best. What you see on TV with him is exactly who he is off camera. And you couldn't ask for a better guest for a live show. He's obviously hilarious.

We see that on TV all the time. but he also has a ton of heart. And his story is all about believing in yourself and just going for it. That is what is at the core of his whole story. So you're going to laugh during this interview, but you're also going to be motivated and inspired. And just like the other live episodes we've done, you're going to hear my interview with Our Truth, followed by the Q&A from the audience towards the end.

And yes, you saw it on the title. Of course. talk about his reaction to his childhood hero, John Sina, turning heel. It's the first time he's ever talked about it. So I'm glad you're here with us on this episode. Snap a screenshot and tag us. Our truth is very active on social media. So there's a good chance he will see this and maybe even repost it.

Tag him. He's at Ron Killings on X. He's at Ron Killings One on Instagram. And ladies and gentlemen, Please welcome to the stage, the one and only, our truth. What's your shop, what's up? Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Grab a seat.

Where's John Stewart and Jay Leno with all of them is? What time is it? What time is it? Little Jimmy is eating supper. So is just me and you? This is it. You're stuck with me again. Where the other guy, people at?

You okedoked me, Chris. I'm so sorry. Oh, I look great. Hey, no, y'all look great. All right, Chris, let's do this, Dan Daughter. And it is so good to see you, man. Huh? Great to see you.

Great to see you. Again. Again. Yeah. I just saw you a few months ago. It was one of the most watched episodes of the years, so thank you for that. Thank you for that. No.

Thank you all for that. Yes. Yeah, you got me to spill the beans a little bit, right? You know, I think we got to ask the question that everybody's thinking. How are you feeling? How are you feeling about what your childhood hero did at Elimination Chamber? Why y'all asking me that? Y'all noticed I haven't spoken that at all, right?

And I don't want to speak on it right now. We can, it's, uh... You're hurt. Your feelings are hurt. Man, I'm hurt to the beyond hurtstivity. You see what I'm saying? That is a word, you know what I'm saying? It's way up there, like in the heart somewhere.

Like, there's no need to talk about it. I'm feeling what all of y'all are thinking. Like, hustle, loyalty, respect, never give up. Like, the make a wish stuff to all. All that stuff is just going with me. So it's like, I don't even like want to even think about it, talk about it. Like, little Jimmy, brother. It's like, I have to deal with that.

You know what I'm saying? Like, he's in turmoil because of that, you know what I'm saying? So y'all love little Jimmy too? Okay, see. So, yeah, that was a, you know, I'm going to get off subject a little bit. And they were talking about belief in my last appearance I did. And little Jimmy is around because we believe, man. And I believe in my childhood hero that, man, I don't know, man.

He doesn't. How could he do that, truth? No, no, no, no. There's two signs to every story now. He kicked Cody Rhodes and the balls. We don't know that for sure. It looked it like it went there, but we don't know that, Chris. It could have been the inner thigh.

top part of the inner thigh maybe yes so it's like um y'all know how you're going through a situation and you're thinking about it you know you need to do something about it but you leave it where is that because right now

it's still stewing and simmering and you still don't know how to react about it that's where I'm at with the John Sina thing man you need to process it a little bit more something like that Bubble guts. Yes, yes. Do you...

John Cena's on this retirement tool right now. Do you think maybe there's a chance we could see Our Truth versus John Cena? Y'all want to see that? Hey, but only way we can see that, though, it's got to be the right way, though, you know what I'm saying? Like, the old me, I'm not like,

I'm not a bad guy. I'm a good guy now, if you haven't noticed that. You know what I'm saying? like I'm a good guy you know what I'm a great guy I kiss the babies I hug people I do you know what I'm saying like I don't keep people in the non-nance you know what I'm saying so for that to happen it would have to be a complete turnaround man like so I don't know man I'm I would love to see we get back on that subject again I don't want to I would love to like oh I don't know man he did some wrong stuff like and I like Cody huh how you know he'll

Listen to me. Maybe you, maybe you could bring John Cena back. Bring him back, truth. Hey, see, y'all instigators right here. Yeah. I try to be. I try to be. Key word is we all try, right?

So it's like, I don't know. I'm kind of just staying out of the mix. I want to like, there's two sides every side. story again. It's funny, but it is. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't... Is that why we haven't seen you on TV? You've been processing all these emotions? Man, I don't want to be on TV right now. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't want to... You don't want people to see you like this. No. That's a fact. That's a fact. I like that.

Y'all just blurted out everything today, isn't it? I love it. My dog. Have you just completely ruined things for Tomaso Champa? How? Sorry, sorry, I mean triple H. Triple H. I heard he got a statue. Right? Do he got a statue?

Oh, man, I got to go see it. I got to go see it, yeah. The eyes, they're very interesting. The eyes? Have you seen the eyes? No, y'all seen the eyes? What's wrong with the eyes? Well, let me...

Show me the eyes. Let me show you. Show me the eyes. I'm very curious to see what you think of this. Maybe you got to go see it. I don't want to... Here, I... Here. So, look at that photo.

Oh, hell. That looks sinister as hell, right? I'm saying it looks, um... Whoa. Yeah. I don't know who's who. I don't... It's Tomaso Champa.

Yeah, they've done something to him with some trickery with his eyes, man. Like, whoa. Where's that at? WWE World. Okay, I want to go see it. You got to go take a photo with Tomaso Champa. I would take a picture with that. Yeah.

I'm going to. I know that at every meeting, greet now, Tomaso Champa, like, people think now they're meeting Triple H. So it's a beautiful thing. They are meeting Triple H. Tomaso is Tomaso. Triple H is Triple H. Right?

Yeah. You're right. Y'all instigating again. How's everything going with the new music? Have you guys seen? Truth has new music. Great, great. Everything is going good with the music.

Thank you all for the ones that have it and heard and listen to it. I do grown folks music. My music is inspiring. It's make you feel proud of yourself, make you feel like doing something. I don't care what it is, you're going to want to do something. And now I just completed a country album. Wow.

Yeah. A country album. Yeah. and it's called the white album. Yes. As dark as I am, I called it the white album. When's it coming out? First single, probably like in the next three weeks.

Okay. Yeah, next three weeks, yeah. What's it called? First single? Yeah. When it all adds up. When it all adds up. Think about that, SD, yeah.

I got out when it all adds up, and then a stallion, counting my sins. I have another. Another one I just done called Moments. So y'all going to enjoy this. If you listen to Country Music, you're going to enjoy this. Do you feel like there's similarities between wrestling and music and just like,

both of them are storytelling. Do you feel like there's similarities there? Oh, big time. Like the music, it sets up everything. Even the music in the movies and the music in wrestling, it sets up. When you hear that, dong, you know, that's Undertaker for him to come out. You know what I'm saying? When you hear that glass break, you know that's, you know what I'm saying?

And you get the more that the more that you get amped up for it. When you hear, what's up? The same way, dog. Yeah. That's it. And speaking of moments, yeah, like the song I just did call Moments. It's about, I wanted to tell y'all this. My producer, J. Trax came with moments.

It's about we all wait for the right time, right? We all like, okay, I ain't go do that, or I'll approach that or whatever at the time, there's no such thing as the right time. We all get moments in life to grab whatever we can, when we can. So just, you know what I'm saying, make the best of the moments you get. I love that so much. What's an example of that? You grabbing that moment in front of you in your wrestling career? My moment was just getting into business. For all of y'all that know to watch a documentary with me coming up from the streets, selling drugs, doing this and doing that.

And my perception, I want to be this big rap star. I want to be known as the biggest rap star that's not. And I lived by that. That was just the only thing I was going to do, I wouldn't do in nothing else. You know what I'm saying? You got that desire that. But it wasn't happening. And you can spin wheels, spend wheels, spin wheels.

Like, you ain't paying the bills. You ain't paying the bills. You know what I'm saying? Like things just ain't happening. So me grabbing the moment was me going a different route to get to where I wanted to. When I met Jack Crocket in the halfway house and he presented professional wrestling to me, I was aware of wrestling. Yeah, I've seen it on TV.

Dusty Rose, Rick Flair, you know what I'm saying? I've seen that. But I was, the business still was new to me. So I grabbed that moment to like, you know what, this ain't working for me. I got to try this right here out. And I just seized that. But I feel like, yeah, please. Truth, I feel like you were put on this earth to be an entertainer.

And wrestling is like, is the vehicle that you're using for it. But like, I think it's hard to argue with the career that you've had, that there is a more entertaining pro wrestler than our truth. Really? Oh, wow. Appreciate that. Think about it. Yeah.

Huh? Huh? Oh, wait a lot of ago. Appreciate that. I thank y'all. And wrestling gave me a sense of like, I could be free. I could be me. I can.

Y'all accepted me. And that was like the biggest turnaround for me. Y'all don't even notice when I first started wrestling, like in the independence and making $5 and wrestling for hot dogs and all that. Like I was a bag. I was a heel at first. And I came out, I would do a rap song and I would do a country song. And it got to where people would want to just hear country.

So just like entertaining and seeing people hit that roller coaster of emotions, I like that. I like when we make, when y'all get mad at a lot of the people, you know what I get pissed off. Y'all like, y'all, like, I like that. And you get happy. And then y'all get emotional and y'all will cry. Y'all get so, y'all relate to energy which comes from us entertaining people. Entertainment is nothing but energy. You know what I'm saying?

I just got a big ass ball of it. your career's had so many phases you talk about being in the independence walk us through all of those phases let's cover you winning the nWA world's heavyweight championship you know your time in w.ewee your time in tNA back to wwee what you're doing now walk us through what that looked like for you oh wow um all right coming off of uh do y'all know y'all know story about how I met Road dog?

Let's hear it. Let's hear it. Okay, so I'm in Memphis, Tennessee. And this is like, let's keep this going. I've signed my contract. They sent me to Memphis, Tennessee. I'm like 25, 26, 27, something like that. I can't remember. In the 20s, right?

So I go to Memphis to go to the dojo. That's the last dojo they had. So I go there. I'm in developmental. And they told me I would be there for like, you know, six months. how we're on TV. Think about it.

For me coming from there to sign a contract with WWB, I'm this guy now. They say, go to Memphis, Tennessee, learn how to wrestle our way, get developed. You know what I'm saying? Six months, you'll be on TV. I'm like, oh shit, like, boom. So I'm in Memphis, right? Training, training, training, six months came, seven months came.

No, nothing. I was having issues at home, man. I was, like, discouraged. I felt like a failure. I felt like I was ready to quit. I wouldn't go back to the streets. I didn't know what I was going back to. So I know what it feels like to not know what you want to do

or what you're going to do, but you want to do something. I did my last show there. My contract was up to. I did my last show there. Roald Dog and his wife was in Memphis on vacation. And they came to the TV taping. And that was when I dropped the title to Jerry Lawler. And he watched the match.

And by the time I got back to the locker room, Roddoll was back there. And he was like, was that you rapping? And I was like, yeah. He was like, I want you to be my tag team partner. And I was, I was blown away. It's like, that's Rodaw, DX. Like, you know what I'm saying?

I'm like, dog, I'm feeling to quit, man. Like, I would love to, man, but I ain't made for this, man. Like, I'm about to quit. He's like, what? You feeling like just give up and quit? You made it here? Like, he really, he ripped into me good. like, and I was like, he said, I tell you what, if you can stay, get out for three more months,

I have you up there on TV with me. And that was just, that was enough for me. That was, I did that. And in two months, I was getting a call and that's when WW, the New York, the restaurant, that's when I debuted with him as K. Quick. Wow. Yeah, so it was Road Dog that, um, do you think about what your career would look like? If Road Dog hadn't been on vacation, hadn't gone to that show, hadn't seen you?

Oh, man. it wasn't been looking good. Nah, it wasn't been looking good, y'all. I didn't know. I was immature still. I was still growing up. I was a young man.

I wasn't smart to like knowing how to navigate through this. Life don't come with a handbook. We live and learn and we're taught and we're told and we just go, you know what I'm saying? So I don't know, man.

I can't even think of what my life would have been like. I didn't have a kid. And I used to be at that point where I didn't care. That was why I was out there in the street. Well, no, I wasn't out there in the street. I didn't care. I just, for my own reasons why I was out in the street doing my thing.

But it was just, I had a sense of caring then. So it's like, I wasn't going to go back to do that because I wasn't going to be to see my kids. I'd done been to jail so many times. Man, I was like tired of it. Like, they knew me by name. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was just, I don't know what I've been doing, man. The United States Soccer Federation present the U.S. Soccer Podcast.

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Road Dog gets released soon after I get released. And now y'all, I'm coming off this trip now. I went from here to boom to there. I'm on, like, coming out, I still remember to get rowdy. We went to the studio to do that, wrote the song in the studio. Like, this was like my big, people don't make it from where I'm from, like, to television. Like, my mom and everybody could see me on TV to, like, I got that phone call, and it was like I got released. That was a, like, I know what it feels like to get fired.

Like, it was, oh, I didn't. I didn't think I was going to. But it's like, funny thing about it. My oldest son, who's 33, he was at the house when I got called by Terry Taylor to come to

to W.D. to meet Vince to sign a contract. And that same joker was there when they called me and fired me. I said, I don't know if you're good luck or van look, man. You're like, but anyway, I got that call and I got fired and I was like, whoa, what do I do? I was in the state of like

not knowing how do I go from this right here to and then I just started getting like my attachment to people is because there's power in people like we all so powerful together and like we relate to each other so much we don't even know I didn't know what to do I started getting phone calls and texts from people that was telling me no we're going to get you booked here you get booked there there's a life outside and after blah blah so you have to like learn and find yourself again and go out there and face work the life again you know what I'm saying so I moved on with that.

I got a phone call from Jerry Jarrett, Jeff Jarrett's dad. And he told me, this is like maybe, I think I was a year, two years. And they was going to start up, I think it was Jeff, his dad, Toby Keith, Hermann Sallor. There's a couple of guys who are going to start TNA up. And he's like, we're going to start this company up. And the first show was like big. The first show was big. And I was a bad guy.

And I think a week later, he called me and said, hey, can you drive in Nashville? I got a surprise for you. And I'm like, a surprise. Like, what kind of surprise you got? Okay, cool, Nashville. And I won't ever, ever forget. Jerry Jarrett sat me down in a municipal auditorium in Nashville, Tennessee. He explained to me the history of wrestling, professional wrestling.

The deep side of it for people, for African-American. people, black Americans in the business, and how prestigious this would be. And he told me, we want you to be our first black American champion because of your charisma, your talent, and you have a story to tell. Wow. And that was, shit, y'all. It was, again, again, coming from here to coming into professional wrestling to where I was accepted.

Like, I was like, I fell in love with it. That's when I bit down. I was talking about, they had to tell me, Rick, Michael, I was working for Bill Barron's in NWA Wild Side. Hadn't even been on TV yet. And the people were telling me, oh, man, you could be on TV. You could be on. I was so happy.

I was doing something that was different than what I was doing. Didn't have to pay me nothing. I was being paid by just that feel of like, I'm accepted by these people in here. I could entertain. I could, like, you know what I'm saying? So, but it's just wrestling just with what? all of that goes into the moment I felt when Jared Jarrett

told me what they wanted to do and when they did what they did. So it just, I don't know, it lifted me in so many different ways, man. Is that one of the greatest moments of your career? It's one of the greatest moments. There's many moments that we create and that I'll create it. I love that. From there, you find your way back to WWE. How does that end up happening?

Oh, man. Um, um, and Randy Orton. I was working for Rikishi. Rikishi had a thing going on in Italy. I've been around in Samoans for years, man. I was working with Rikishi, and I was home, and W.W.D.B. had the event.

Umaga and Randy Orton came by my house to see me. And, yeah, rest in peace. And he was like, man, hey, what are you doing? you doing? I'm like, man, you know, just hanging in swine. He's like, bro, come back, pick yourself up, come back to the company man. They've been talking about you. I'm going to bring your name up. Take care of your family man and like, you know what I'm saying? You're supposed to be there, bro. Come on back, Ouse. And every day, I'm like within a week, I called and I was signed like a week after that. Yeah, back. And that's when 2011 Our Truth came back.

From there, we saw some really interesting work out of you. Who thought that you smoking a cigarette, would be and end up being as big of it as big as it was. Man, oh my gosh, man. That's funny. Hey, that was like almost like a thing. Vince had caught me smoking. For real? For real. And so y'all ain't know that. So that was like, I'm gonna get you, you know what I'm saying? So he's like

you're gonna smoke in front of the hole, you know what I'm saying? And it was illegal. You can't do that over there. You know what I'm saying? Because you're in an arena. You can't do that. Yeah, we're gonna do it. I don't even think that's PG. It wasn't. I broke the rules, y'all. $20,000 fine. Yes.

Legit for a shoot, yes. You paid it? Hell no. No. I had paying potential, but no. That turned into a whole thing, though. It did. Heal Our Truth was a real thing.

Like, we talk about John Cena's heel turn. Our Truth, turning a hill. That was wild. Yeah, man, it was good and it was fun, but it's just felt like everything was too cool. I could, you know what I'm saying, do something to somebody and it was cool. Y'all wouldn't get mad. I could do

bad stuff and y'all would be like, it's just him, he just did, you know what I'm saying? And it's not, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, bro, you can never be a heel. It's not. We want you to like, oh. Because we love you. I love y'all.

too. But yeah, man, but the heel stuff was very fun, man. I loved it. Especially working with I was working with, man. It's just being a heel is easy. Anybody can be a butthole, right? I love it, though. Huh?

Especially little Jimmy. How old is little Jimmy these days? I don't even know. I don't even know. No, he's still a little. He's still a little, yeah. He stays little? He's a little tight. I don't know.

I never asked him. Some things we just don't even talk about or ask, Chris. We just let it be what it's going to be. I appreciate it. Am I right, y'all? See, y'all instigating again. See a theme here. They're instigating everything.

Oh, they co-sign it. Y'all really had people believing in Little Jimmy. Y'all believed in Little Jimmy. You see? You see what I'm saying? They're saying he's real. He is real. I see him too.

Yes, yes. Yes, we all see them, don't we? When you said in our last interview that you wanted to create a little Jimmy action figure and put nothing in the package, you know how many comments were like, I would have bought that?

I mean, how many of you guys would have bought a little Jimmy action figure? I asked Stephanie McMahon, could I make a little Jimmy action figure? She said, what it's going to be? I said, nothing, but it would be in the box. she said she's like oh my god she laughed she said truth i don't think we can do that we got to give them something i said well i guess put a stick beside them or something like i said they got the

package you know what i'm saying but she's like no we can't do that they're selling an invisible john cina action figure right y'all would buy a little jimmy action figure oh my god when did you when did you start leaning into the comedy stuff man, look, let me tell y'all this. I'm not a comedian by no means at all. I am not. I just, I know how to be funny. I know I like making people feel good and laugh.

And laughter breaks the barrier. It breaks the wall. You can calm and savage beast with laughter, man. You can change a person's whole day or a person's whole mentality, their whole state of being with just making them feel better. about themselves. And I think it's just that relation I got with I don't, I can say like

I like smelling socks sometime at night. You want to see my socks? No, I say smelling them. See, I'm just, and I just made that up. But y'all laughed at. I do have pizza socks on. Oh, for real? I just say it's socks. You have to show me your socks. Yeah. I mean,

I love pizza. Okay, so you got some pieces of socks. Okay. That's not bad. It's not bad. Okay. It's not But Chris got on a piece of socks. But this is the thing with you. It's not what you say, it's how you say it. And it ties into that great quote from Maya Angelou. It's not what you say.

It's how you make people feel. And that's what you do. That's what you are so good at. You make people feel something. Oh, appreciate that. Thank you. And I think it's reciprocal. I feel the energy from all y'all.

I feel the love, believe me. And I read all the tweets, all the messages. Yeah, I scroll and read, man. So it's like I think it's reciprocated, you know? I've been wanting to ask you this question since he debuted. Do you have any idea who Al Grande Americano might be? There's been a lot of names thrown in the barrel. I don't know who that is.

I have no clue. I don't know. It's not me. It's not you? It's definitely not me. Okay. Scratch that off the list. It's not little Jimmy's too tall.

Too tall to be a little kid. Yeah, he's too tall. Huh? Shorty. I don't think it's short of G. He's too small. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I agree.

It's not Shorty G. Nah. I've heard this crazy rumor that people think it's Chad Gable. Nah. Nah. That's wild. Nah. Chris Sharp.

Oh. That's my. That's a good one. That was my backyard wrestling name. Really? Chris Sharp. Really? Was your finishing move?

Was your finishing move? The swanton bomb. Really? I was 17 years old and thought I was invincible. But you had a dream? Of course. Swantown bomb. Do it.

Could you imagine? You can't boo me. You can't boo me. Yeah, you set him up for it. Yeah, he got to go all out, right? You got to go through. I wasn't going to move. I was not going to move.

Could you imagine the landing here, hit you, roll off the stage, break my legs? It would have been bad. I ruined my whole WrestleMania weekend. We had to stop the show. Thank you for being out for it, though. No, I would have powered through. Really? Oh, yeah.

Two broken legs would have powered through. Oh, I love it. So the last live show I did, or two live shows ago, Natalia was my guest. Okay. And I guess she didn't like something that I said. And she put me in the sharpshooter. What did you say? I mean, nothing bad, but she put me in the sharpshooter.

And you know, that is not a fun move to be in. Nah, it's a shoot move. Yes, that is a shoot move. And I was, like, tapping, and she thought it was hilarious. I'm like, no, like, stop. Nah, you don't mess with Natalia. Nah. Right?

Nah. She's a beast. Yes. One of the best. Close friend of mine. One of the best. I love her, T.J. Who are your closest friends in the business?

Oh, my goodness, man. I have a long list. Yeah, little Jimmy's first, right? I'm going to call him, y'all, before I leave here, right? End of the night, I call him out, and y'all get to hear little Jimmy talk for the first time. Wow. Only tonight. Okay.

my friends. Y'all, I'll be straight up with y'all, honestly. I can't name one without missing one. There's no one that y'all have seen on TV that y'all cheer for or have booed every week that I'm not friends with. There's nobody that I dislike. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I never met Nick.

I still haven't met Nick. You've only met Tom? Yes. Wow. Never met Nick. Yeah. Tom and Nick. I don't like what Ms. doing to Carmelo right now, but outside of that,

Mids is a heck of a dude, man. I like, he's a cool friend. Not no more. He did you dirty. Yeah, he did me dog dirty, yeah. Oh, that's worse than dirty. Worse than dirty, yeah. Dirty dog dirty, yeah, that's dirty, dog.

That's kicking some guys. What have been some of them? some of your favorite comedic moments? Definitely the Brock, but that's no thing. Which I got to go, my friend Chris Dunn is a writer. I kept forgetting to tell people that he was the one that like helped me with that in the back. And Paul, just surprising everybody, like, you know what? We're not going to let Brock know what we're going to do.

It's just going to be a free fall. And I was like, no, man, like, like, Brock is a beast. I think we should let Brock know what we're going to say about Brock, yeah. And so, funny thing is, I mean Brock close. I love Brock. Brock walked in

to Guerrilla, and it was simply just like he walked in and looked. He's like, so what are we doing? And I'm looking at everybody for somebody like, somebody say something to this dude. Like, nobody said nothing. He's like, all right, well, I guess we just go out there and talk then. And I'm like,

oh, now y'all got this dude going out They're like, but it turned out to be one of the best moments, man. You called out Paul Heyman, so does that mean at some point in time? At some point in time, I will throw Paul Heyman over the top rope. I promise y'all that, yeah. I promise y'all that. Needs to happen. Me and Paul have a match.

Only thing I want to do is you're talking about the top rope and that's it. Over the top rope match, right? Me and Paul. Maybe, maybe, night one of WrestleMania. Okay, stay with me here, people. We've got Seth Rollins. Okay. We've got Roman Raines.

We've got C.M. Punk. I see it. We've got the wise man Paul Heyman. I see it. Could we also have our truth out in that match? There's history there. You could, right? You could.

There's a lot of history there, ain't it? A lot of history. Something else. You got a good little mind on you, Chris. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Good imagination. I would be there. I see me there. Not like right now, but like I see me there. Yeah. It could happen. It could happen. When is that?

Smackdown. It's tomorrow? Oh, I'm going to get in that. Do you know what city you're in? We're in Vegas, dog. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

But nobody told me about the Andre the John Battle of Royal. You know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't know. Yeah, I knew that. I knew that, dog. That was a test, bro. That was a test. He passed.

He passed. Yeah. Hide and seek under the ring was a great one. That was a good one. Yes. That became my spot, man, under the ring. I could do everything under the ring, you know what I'm saying? What do you do under the ring?

You're waiting for a while. You wait for the moment. Back to the moment. Back to the moment. I love that. You've had so many Royal Rumble moments. Oh, my goodness, yeah. There's a story there, too, right?

Story there. I'm going to get her back. Climb the ladder. One day I'm going to get her back, right? You climb the ladder? There's a story there. And it wasn't there. It wasn't there.

It wasn't there. And see, they forgot the wrong paper. that night. Right? They were supposed to hang your thing up there, right? You're right. Making me look like a fool in front of everybody. You were at Money in the Bank. They weren't. I was there. What were they doing? Man, I don't know, man. You got to ag them. Has there ever been a wild, crazy idea that you've turned down? Because you seem like the person is game for anything. I'll tell y'all something funny. Not really. I am kind of game for anything. I'm like I'll jump in it with anything.

I would always, you know, mess with Vince and big show, and I would always like, you know, I used to train with Michael Felt, you know what I'm saying? Like swimming and, you know, damn well, I ain't trained with him Michael Felt. You know what I'm saying? But I was with him on one of the troop tours, and I had the whole, everybody was believing, you know, like, I was just, like, they was like, oh my gosh, like, we didn't know he was such a good swimmer. So that's the 24-7 scene where they had.

had me go out in the beach. That was like, okay, since you such a good swimmer. I said, no, I can't swim. I don't want to, like, I just play in the water. I don't want to, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I can swim good enough for me.

I can't save nobody, right? And it's different swimming in a swimming pool that got stability versus the beach when the sand leaves, you know what I'm saying? And you don't know what's in the ocean. Man, dog, there was lifeguards, Vince had four lifeguards and two scuba divers.

And the lifeguards was telling me, and they was white. And they said, bro, it's hot tide, you shouldn't be in this water. I said, dog, when they tell me I shouldn't be in this water, I got the goal, man. But they wanted to get that one shot, that one shot. And it just, that was one of the things.

I almost said no, too. But I had it, like, and Vince was on the phone. Let me know when he does it. Yeah, I want to like, but it was, I won't forget that one. No more lies about Michael Phelps women, yeah. What's the story behind that iconic photo of you and Tupac? Oh, wow.

Because people don't think this is real. Really? There's a lot of people that think this is either Photoshopped or maybe AI. They don't. AI wasn't around it. No. Okay, y'all remember when I told y'all I was dying here in the streets, playing with that candy and stuff.

Okay, so I was. I was using that money. I was a show opener for any act that came through North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia. I was hustling my CDs. Back then had little cassette tapes. I was hustling my videos, everything, music I was hustling off. And they had these things called Jack the Rapper Conventions. And they would go everywhere.

And it would be where the A&Rs are, the record reps, everybody would be at. You come there, you audition, and you get signed. So I would follow those places around, man. Like every year I would go around. It lasts for like a good three months. And I would meet Tupac. He would be there at the Jack the Rapper Convention. And it would just him easy.

Like it would be so many celebrities there. It's almost like it was the WrestleMania of the record industry. So imagine that. That's what I always see him there. Were you friends with Tupac? It was just a hang out thing seeing him there all the time there. Wow. Yeah, man, like everybody's trying to.

He had just done juice though. So he had like pretty much. much made it, you know what I'm saying? You have lived so many lives. Man, Omar said that he lived five lifetimes. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, man.

That's a great omas. I've had, I have, I've been blessed to have a lot of good moments. What is the difference between, yes, that is. What's the difference between Kay Quick and our truth? That's easy, man.

I told you all that joke of what mature. He was still he was doubtful. He was Kay Quick didn't believe in itself. He knew he was talented. He was still rowdy. Still had those good family value and morals and that, but I just, I liked

I think I liked maturity. I liked direction. It's a difference in going through the motion, just knowing how to do or just and doing it to it. You know what I'm saying? Put yourself all K. Quick, he didn't grow yet. Our truth, he knew who he was.

He knew what he possessed. He knows, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's mature. You know what I'm saying? So it's a big difference in those two. I wish. You look 25. I appreciate it.

That's true. It's unreal. You've aged like 10 minutes in the last 30 years. It's crazy. Appreciate that. Was last year at WrestleMania winning the tag team championships, Was that your WrestleMania moment? Yes, I think it was.

I think it was my WrestleMania moment. Appreciate it. Thank you all for that. Yeah, that was a big surprising comeback, man, just from coming back from the injury, I tore my quad tendon the year before. I don't know if y'all know, but we have two quad tendons, and the doctor said, I tore the one on the bottom. And he said, that wasn't kind of hard to do.

so I was out longer than I was supposed to be out. How'd you do it? Running. It sounds funny, but yes. And you would think me just running, and if you go back and watch that tape, I was wrestling Grayson Waller on NXT. And when I ran to the rope,

before I even attempt to jump, just that motion, I felt it. I didn't know what it was, but it's like I was already committed to jumping over the road. You know what I'm saying? So I wasn't going to stop it. Once I tried to go, there was no strength there at all.

So it was just as simple as that. And I've learned you don't have to be an athlete to tear a quad or to pull a tendon or things like that. So it's just one of them things that could have been. But you are an athlete. I am one. It's expected. But he had a guy that, like, deliver mail.

And he tore his quad tendon too. He wasn't running. Right? I don't know. Those mail carriers, they put in a lot of hours, a lot of steps. But he's not an athlete. No. But they have a very important job. And they got nice legs. So you came back, you came back at Survivor Series.

Your return was completely overshadowed by two other people. I'd be so upset if I was you. Yeah, yeah. You return on the same night as Randy Orton. Oh, and by the way, CM Punk comes back to WWE. Yes. Yeah, man. Everything escalated, though.

It escalated big. Because it all started with you. Kind of sort of, yeah. And it went to where... If it wasn't for you, CM Punk wouldn't to return that night. Probably not. You know what I'm saying? But it was great, man, because I never, ever saw myself as that.

And within three months, I was the top merch seller with the Judgment Day shirt, man. So that was like... Wow. I saw some people wearing that Judgment Day shirt. shirt. Yeah, there's one right there. Yeah, my dog. Yeah. Yeah, that shirt was the top seller man for like three months. So it was like amazing. Yeah. Wow. Coming back from the torn quad. Yeah. And I had infection. I caught staff, Mercer. It was like five different infections I had. Oh, girl, you didn't hear nothing. Listen. Listen, my medication for my infection was $4,700.

a week. What? Yeah. I'm like, what the hell I got? You know what I'm saying? But it was, yeah, it was that bad. And I had to give it to myself, too. I had a pick line.

I had a pick line in this arm for nine weeks. Then I had one in that arm. Yeah, see, y'all didn't know that, did you? Yeah, and I don't know if everybody knows this. We talked about it during our interview. You almost lost your leg. Almost lost my leg. It was that bad infection.

Wow. We're so glad to see you back. And, you know, incredible shake. too. Yeah, man, appreciate it. Appreciate it. We're going to open this up, guys, to Q&A. If you have a question for Q&A, form a line behind this microphone here. We're going to do about 20 or so minutes of Q&A, maybe 25 minutes, but of course, I have to ask you the question that we will wrap up every episode with. You've already answered this,

but perhaps maybe your answers have changed. I don't know. But I'm grateful to have you here, man. Please give it up for our truth, ladies and gentlemen. What an amazing guest. Grateful for you man and I'm curious Say it again. We love you from Canada. Canada. That's true.

I love Canada. Yes, I love Canada. Canada loves you. What are three things you're grateful for, truth? The three things? The three things. My family. Life? and all y'all.

I love that. Let's open it up to Q&A. What's your name and where are you from? Stephen from Arizona and yes, I am a hugger. We're in the Bailey shirt. This will be my 40th wrestling event in 31 years this weekend. Wow. Congrats, bro. Thank you.

Hardcore, right? Yes. They include Halloween Havoc 96 and 97 at the MGM Grand. Oh, okay. 97 was legendary. I've got three questions, but I'll make them short, I promise. Let's make it two. Okay.

You got a conjunction. Who are your favorite wrestlers of all time, and what was it like facing the rock and scene at the 25th anniversary of the Survivor series? Favorite wrestler of all time is John Cena. Y'all, you should even have to ask me that one. Bro, facing the rock, bro, that was. I felt like that was the pinnacle. That was, you don't go no higher than that, right?

Exactly. In the ring with the rock and John Cena, man. Like, that's an unforgettable moment I want to forget. Thank you for doing this. Thank you so much. Thank you. All right. What's your name?

What you're from? Dailin from Montreal, Canada. All right. I wanted to know your time in TNA, you were there when they had the square ring, and then they changed it to the octagon. And a lot of the wrestlers are on the side of either hated it or love. this, I want to know what side are you on. Man, it was

something else, man. I'm a guy like Chris knows. I'm a guy like I'm quick on the feet. So whether I'm running, just away or I can't go that way right there. I feel like everybody that's in that ring, we got good ring awareness.

Psychology, you should know where you at. You know what I'm saying? Like, you should be able to do a roll and know exactly where you're at. You just add a couple more, you know what I'm saying, ropes to each side. So it was a, I could do it, I don't have to do it. I don't have to do it. I don't have a problem.

A.J. Stiles said that the ring was especially firm. Yes. Especially, especially stiff. Oh, very stiff. Like, because of the extra side it had. Right. It made it, yes. Yeah.

What's your name? Where are you from? My name's Darren, all the way from England. What's up? Yeah. Wow. Anyone else in here? from the UK.

Okay. All cool. Okay. Love it. I'm going to keep it simple. There's a two in one question for both of you. Very easy. What's your favorite WrestleMania?

Oh, the one we won them tag titles, man. Come on, dog. Easy, yes. My favorite's 18 because I was there. Rock Hogan, my first WrestleMania. But I think the best WrestleMania of all times, Russell, maybe a 17.

Thank you so much. Short and sweet. Hi, I'm Zach from Michigan. Hey, Zach. Artuth, what's up? What's up? So in 2010, you used your song, Get Crunk.

What was the story behind changing your theme and then changing it back to What's Up? Oh, my goodness. That's crazy. You asked me that. So, for people that don't know, Vince would be working in his office, and I would go in there occasionally

when he wasn't busy with my little speaker, and I would let him hear one of my new songs I wrote while he's working. And I went in there and he was working, and I said, I got a new song, don't you check out? And I would play it and I would start rapping. I wrapped it. And he said, you should do it tonight.

I can wrap it tonight. He's like, yeah, let's wrap it tonight. So it's like he told everybody, hey, put the new song on, he's going to go out there and wrap it. That was just the spirit of moment thing that Vince called. By the way, I was there last year when you won the tag titles and it was one of the best feel-good moments that night. Appreciate you, man. Thank you. Thank you. Here's our man wearing your shirt. Yes, yes.

My doubt. I got two questions. What's your name? My name is Rayan from LA. Another shirt, too. She got on the, um, on the other shirt, okay, yeah. Tom and next. I got two quick question for you. First one, what's up? What's up? Second one, inside or out of the ring, what's your proudest moment in your life? Inside or what now? Inside or outside of the ring. What's your proudest moment in your life? My proudest moment in my life is being proud of myself, man. I don't think, I mean, I don't think we give ourselves enough, you know, pat on the back for what we go through as people, you know what I'm saying?

Like, so I'm just proud, man. I know what it's like to doubt yourself. I know what it's like to not feel the best. I know what I don't feel like. But being proud of myself, I think it's a big. accomplishment I've ever made because they allowed me to do stuff what's your name

where you from? What a shirt? Hello, I am Aiden from Colorado Springs, Colorado. And I just wanted to ask you real quick, given that they are starting to induct matches into the Hall of Fame this year, which match of yours would you love to be inducted into the Hall of Fame? Oh, don't. You came with a hard question.

Oh, man, I don't know. I've had so many matches. I don't know. I've had too many matches. The one from Mania last year. Who won the tag titles? Anyone that I won a title? How about that? All right. Thank you so much.

Yes. Right. So how many titles in total have you won? 60 something? I don't know, man. You'd be posting crazy stuff about that too, man. It was 50. It's up there.

Ladies and gentlemen, the 54-7 champion. Yeah, it was 54-time, yeah. That's crazy, right? That's so silly. That's crazy. What's your name? Where you from? Are they from? Oh, no.

That doesn't matter where you got it from. Oh, he got you. Got him! I fell for it, I fell for it. My name is Jakub. I came here all the way from Warsaw, Poland. And truth, you were a part of my first ever WBWY live event.

It was in 2013 in Wooch, Poland. Wow. So as a professional wrestler, you travel a lot. And my question is, which place outside of the United States you enjoyed the most, you know, regarding the culture, food, people? Everywhere outside of the United States. And I'm honest. Y'all know I'm a people's person.

So it's like, and I like different cultures. I like, I've experienced so much, y'all. Like, I've had people in Egypt singing, what's up. Like, in Poland, like so many different nationalities. So it's like, I can't name one without forgetting one. You know what I'm saying? So it's like anywhere outside this Circle, man, I've enjoyed. Thank you so much.

Oh, thank you. Thank you for wearing a rock shirt so I could do that. What's your name? My name is Kyle. I'm from here in Las Vegas. I don't have a cool shirt tonight. Oh, you know, good guy. I like the sweater.

Yeah, it's a nice sweater, right? I have one very similar. I almost wore it. It's a question for the wrestling expert in the room. what's the difference between a clothes line and a lariat? You tell me. I came here to ask advice from the expert. Y'all didn't hear me one time say I was a wrestling expert.

This man just told you I was an entertainer. You got to pick which one is the clothes line or which one is a lariat. And I think it depends on who's doing it, right? The clotheslines when you hold it out, right? And then the lariat's the motion, right? Now look at who's the wrestling expert. That's right. I got to teach our truth the difference, you know?

Okay, yeah. Start that school up soon. Thank you. Hey, what's your name? Joey, I'm from Orlando. I actually went to your first ZVV show in Indianapolis. Oh, my gosh. And I was with my friend, and thank you for roasting me at that show.

I said that I was kidding. What do you do? True story. I remember. You remember? I was like, yeah, I've got, you know, my next show is in Toronto. You're like, I won't be able to go. I'm like, what, they won't let you in Canada?

Wow. True story, true story. And then... I'm sorry! Chris Sharp turning a heel here. No, that's all good. It actually got me 1K, 1,000 likes on Instagram, so thank you. What?

I didn't know that. Wow. And for you, Truth, for you, truth, I know someone just said, what's your favorite country outside? I mean, yeah, outside United States. But when you travel in the United States, what's your favorite state that you travel to? Damn.

Should I say that? Your favorite state? No. Yeah. That one too. The state's this cool. The one that's No.

Y'all know I'm talking about. The ones I'm talking about that's cool. Right? Just one of them. Oh, we see what you're saying. You see what I'm going? What I'm talking about? California is a very cool state.

California's a good, yeah. Where? Arizona is a very cool state. I take Arizona. Yeah. No, I don't know about that. Colorado? Yes.

I love Denver, yes. Okay. All right, we see what you're saying. You see what I'm saying, right? Cool states. That was my good state. One more. One more.

I met you at Culture Kings Rowier today. Did you purchase anything? Not yet. I'm going back. Thank you so much. Sorry for roasting you. Anything you recommend? You recommend anything?

Yeah. What do you recommend? What do you recommend me getting from Culture Kings? Anything are truth. Okay. All right. Okay. We're going to do, we're going to, we only have time for two more.

I'm so sorry, we're cutting off the line here. Two more. And then we're going to wrap it up here. I'm glad it's my turn because it's my birthday Happy birthday Thank you, thank you Thank you So CBV you always ask

Three things you're grateful for Yeah Our truth Outside of wrestling What are three things that make you happy Or keep you going? I just did that I just said that

Outside of wrestling Ain't nothing outside of wrestling though Yeah three more So it's six Yeah You go Stop stealing my gimmick.

Learn from the best. Six things. So you can ask me something like that because I'm very quick, I can just say anything. Squirrels, chipmunks, and elephants. I'm happy for that. All right, all right. I'm happy for the elephants.

Yeah. Hello there, guys. We said two more, and then we somehow have four people in line. What do you think, truth? So I'm Chris. I'm born and raised here in Las Vegas. I've never met a Chris I don't like.

I love it. You ever met a Chris you don't like? I haven't. I like them all. Not yet? I've met a couple. But first, if I may, could I get a selfie with you guys? Yeah.

You can take it from there. Yeah, that's going to be a... Otherwise, everyone's going to be... Are you going to do it like that? Sure. You want to run up there? May I get closer? Come on, man.

Hell yeah. Together, right? And then for my question here, I wanted to ask Cartruh because you've been in wrestling for so long. You know, for a while, WWE didn't want you to speak of your time out of your company. I wanted to know now that the floodgates are kind of open and you can address TNA and NWA and all of that. How does it feel now that you can be more open with your fans? I mean, it's cool. I think it's cool to be transparent.

I think there's nothing hot hitting from you guys. You guys know, you watch everything. You know what I'm saying? I think it just gives you guys more information on, you know, things you didn't know or things you assumed or thought of. It just confirms that. Well, thank you so much. And keep doing what you're doing.

You're doing a great job. Appreciate it, man. Thank you. All right. Are you good with two more? You're good with this last? Okay. And then it'll be, instead of ladies first, it'll be ladies last.

Yeah. Unless he's going to let her go. go before him. Oh, I ain't going to do that. Jeremy from Fort Lauderdale. Hey, Jeremy. How you doing, Chris? Good to see you. Good to see you too, man. Congratulations to the subs. Thanks for taking my question, Art Truth, and thanks for all of making me laugh, no matter what. Appreciate you, Jeremy. Thank you.

Thank you. When Our Truth, the movie happens, who would you like to play you in the movie? Oh, damn. He said, Our Truth, the movie. Our Truth, the life story. Who to have? Proud of Young Thub. O'Cocinet, Young Thug.

Oh, Young Thug. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or future. Yeah. Denzel? Probably Denzel, too, yeah. He had to get some... Leonardo DiCaprio.

Yeah. I wouldn't mind that. Who? Swirth Strickland? Yeah. He could do it. You know, I've been in a few movies. Maybe I could audition for the role.

I wouldn't mind that. Okay. Appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you, Jeremy.

All right, this is it, ladies and gentlemen. That's what. Our final question, you somehow squeeze two more out of this. I love it. Hi. Hello. Julia from Calgary, Alberta. Nice.

I think you mean Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Right. A little Lance Storm action on that. So being a heart staple, what is your favorite Owen or Brett Hart memory? You got me on that one. Or anything, Calgary, Stampede, Wrestling? I wasn't really into wrestling back then. Again, I'm not a wrestling, what he called it?

Expert, yeah. Yeah, I knew that is... Even then, Brett or Owen Hart, anything? I didn't watch back then. You were so busy watching John Cena back then, right? I was too busy in those streets. Yeah. I was in the streets.

He was too busy coming out with his mixtape. Yeah. And in them streets. Like I told you, I was in those streets now. Man. Anyways. We're a little chairman. Thank you so much.

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, you guys have been an amazing crowd. Get up on your feet one more time. A huge thank you to our guests. The one, the only, the legendary, are truth. What a fun night that was. Thank you all for joining us for this episode, whether you were there live or you're listening to it now or both.

Our truth is just the best. And I'm very curious if he gets tied into a storyline or a match with John Sina at some point before he retires in December. There have been hints there, right? Like there have been hints. Our Truth had that moment with Randy Orton where he's like, yeah, John Sina is going to beat you. Like there's, there's hints.

So I'd be very curious. Our next Insight Live is August 1st, the Friday before SummerSlam. And we are looking at doing one during Money in the Bank weekend in L.A. That one's not confirmed yet. Maybe I said too much. I don't know. But just know that SummerSlam is for sure happening. You can get tickets for that one at CVVTX.com.

CVVT-I-X.com. Snap a screenshot. Let us know that you. you were listening to this episode and please tag us on social media. He's at Ron Killings on X. He's at Ron Killings One on Instagram. And we'll wrap this up with this quote from Rodney Burton, which is so fitting ties into this episode and everything that Truth talked about so much. Life isn't about what happens to us. Life is about how we respond to what happens to us. be great. Be grateful. We will see you on the next one for some more insight. We're back on Thursday with Indy Hartwell and get your questions in for Ask CVV number 82 on Friday.

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