Insight with Chris Van Vliet - Scott Steiner On Steiner Math, Bron Breakker, "He's Fat" Promo, Big Poppa Pump, Hall Of Fame

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

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Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Van Fleet. Ah, yeah, welcome back to another one here on Inside. I'm CVV, Chris Van Fleet. Hope it was a great weekend for you. Thank you for being with us on this one. And thank you for making Insight the number one wrestling podcast on the planet. Give that follow button a low blow on Spotify or Apple or wherever you're listening right now. now give it a low blow yeah just smack it with a low blow and if you really want to support the show

take the four seconds that it'll take you to leave a rating on spotify just go to the main page for the show click the three little dots there dot dot dot dot then click rate show and the stars will pop up and you can rate it from there big pop-up pump freakzilla the big bad booty daddy the genetic freak himself scott steiner is with us today and if you've been listening for a while you know that I've been trying to get him on the show for like the last six years, and we finally made it happen. What a career he had as a tag team wrestler with his brother, Rick Steiner, then with a completely different look and completely different attitude as Big Papa Pump. There's so much to talk to Scott Steiner about.

And yeah, don't worry. Of course, we talked about Steiner Math and how that promo from TNA took on a life of its own. We also get his thoughts on his nephew, Braun Breaker. and what he's been doing and what he's been accomplishing in WWE and if either of his sons, Brock or Brandon, might join their cousin in

WWE. It'll probably come as no surprise to you, but Scott Steiner's a lot funnier than people give him credit for. There were so many one-liners or little quips during this interview that were hilarious. I hope that you love this as much as I did.

Holla, if you hear us, snap a screenshot, tag us on social media, so we can share it out. He's at Scott Steiner on X. I'm sure you've seen how active he's been on there. It's been amazing to see. He's at real big pop-a-pump on Instagram. He just recently got back on Instagram. So go give him a follow on there. He has some great posts. I'm at Chris Van Vlead. I'd like to think I have some great posts on there. So go give me a follow. Also check out Scott's official website and become a Steiner Insider at the Genetic Freak.com. Ladies and gentlemen, big pop a pump

Scott Steiner I can't think you enough we're finally doing this yeah it was six years I've been trying to track you down for a long time well we almost got it done in Florida almost yes

and then something happened it was a gangrel's show right yeah that was the first time yeah and I think you you called me at like two in the morning you're like all right the show's over you're ready to do it's why I start perking up man that's night time

we should have done this interview at two in the morning Yeah. It's only like four o'clock. I can come back. All right, we'll see you then. You just posted a photo of your son Brock. Yep. He looks like a mini big Papa pump.

Yeah, his baby pictures. He all has my facial structure. Yeah, my wife thinks that, you know, could be twins, you know. So, yeah, he's, yeah, he looks, you know, he's a little taller than I am. Like, you know, I've lost like two inches through all my surgeries, so I'm getting older, you know. But he's 6.3, 6.3 and a half. He was 6.4, yeah. And he's on the W.W.E. NIL deal?

Yep. Yeah, that came about because we were talking earlier. You saw it on ESPN. He got a pretty, you had two games, one before he outran the brothers for 85 yards, scored touchdown. They scored a touchdown. Touchdown. And ESPN picked it up. Of course, they had a side-by-side me and him. And so, yeah, it took off. and then that's when they start to get interested. Man, those Steiner genetics are no joke. What genetic freak, man, what we expect? You get two boys, right?

Yeah. They're both genetic freaks? Yep. The other boy plays basketball at Virginia Tech. So, oh, shit. I guess you have to. It's okay. We'll keep it in.

You can bleep that out, right? It's fine. We'll keep it in. Cut. All right. I thought I'd turn that off. All right. He literally just threw your phone over there.

But yeah, no, he loves basketball. Like, he's one of the hardest work, you know. I mean, he's been doing three days since he was like sixth grade. Three of days. Yeah, he worked up early in the morning, you know, train regular practice with the rest of the team. Then he'd do something at night, you know. There was that photo of Brock wearing the chain mail with the sunglasses

as I'm wearing the big gold. Yeah. Man, he's a, he's a freak. Yeah. No, he's, as much as a genetic freak that I was, you know, but,

no, he's a lot better athlete than I was. Because he played basketball too. I mean, he still plays basketball when a football season. Yeah. Like, he can do it between the legs, dunk.

Yeah, so he's, wow. Yeah, you know, he is a great athlete, better than I was. Are both of them going to be in the WWE at some point, you think? I'm not sure.

You know, they both loved it when they were kids, when I wrestled, then all of a sudden when I stopped, they really didn't pay attention to it too much. So I know. Well, the thing that came about with Brock, because Brock, Brandon, and Bronson, and there's a couple other guys get in sometimes, sometimes Brandon's basketball friends or Bronson's other guys that wrestled and they'll play video games. So with Brock, talking to Bronson, Bronson all the time.

And, of course, he's on a trajectory that's unbelievable. Yeah, Bronner. And he's having fun. Yeah. So, of course, he talks to Bronson, talks to Bronc. And then one thing led to another, and he got the bug. Now he wanted to do it. So it's not a better time being wrestling because, you know, there's two, you know,

W. You know, W.E is doing phenomenal. And he got, you know, AEW. So it's always good to have competition. So I never really wanted them to go on to wrestling, but I let them do what they want to do, you know. Did they ask you at all if they could use the Steiner name? Because Bronson's wrestling now is Bronner Breaker.

Right. It would make sense for him to be Braun Steiner. Right. Well, they never shied away from that because, you know, he introduced us at the Hall of Fame. Yeah. So for whatever reason, they used the Bronbreaker, but they know he's a Steiner.

so I think Brock would probably use a Steiner name. Brock Steiner? Yeah. I'm not sure if it would be Brock, but it would be, you know, Steiner. It's amazing. Like it's amazing. The genetic freak isn't just a nickname. Right.

Yeah. Well, and, you know, my wife had a little bit to do with it too. Maybe 50%. Yeah. No, but she was a good athlete in college also. She was a gymnast. So, no, she was good, too. But most of it came for me.

Don't show her this tape. Where'd you come up with these nicknames? You have three of the best nicknames in all of wrestling, Big Papa Pump, Freakzilla, and the Genetic Freak. And Big Bad Booty Daddy. And the Big Bad Booty Daddy. Okay, four then. Well, that's, yeah, that's...

But only my freaks call me that. You know, late at night, you know, action going on. So, what are they supposed to call me? Big Bad Booty Dead. So, no, it's just something I thought of, you know, late at night, you just traveling down. on the roads, thing up wilds, things you could come up with you. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.

Did you have some that didn't work? Well, they didn't work. I forgot about them. So it's hard for me to remember the things that didn't work. How does Big Papa Pump become a nickname? Well, that all, when I turned heel was a bad guy. I just had to come up with, you know, that's when I totally changed everything. So I had to go everything opposite what I was before, which was.

was, you know, me, straight edge, coming from University of Michigan. So I just flipped the switch and it's trying to do everything different and try to, you know, piss people off and be arrogant. So that's one thing I had a tired time doing when I was with my brother and being a baby face. I had a hard time being arrogant because, you know, an amateur wrestler, you know, some of those matches are won by one point, like Kurt Ango, you know, one on refereeing decision in Olympics. So it's very hard and they're very rare that are amateur wrestler are cocky

because you can get beat any day. It's a very humbling sport. Yeah, it varies. One of the toughest sports there is because it's one-on-one. There's no place to hide. You know, if you have an off night, you most likely can get beat. Yeah. So that was what's held me back when I first started because I was not an arrogant, boastful

person, you know. So, and if something did happen, somebody mouth out me, I would, you know, I really wouldn't talk. I just punch, you know. But how'd you get out of yourself when you became the big bad booty daddy? It was something I knew I needed to do, you know. When you come from an established tag team like we had and you go to something else, there's always a good chance that you could flop. Or in my case, you could always worry about the office burying you. You know, like, which in some instances you said that could have been doing that, but I, you know, overcame that, you know, in some of the bookings.

Like, my first match when I turned hill, there was a pay-per-view. It was like I lost. Like, you don't fucking do that. Can I swear here? Of course. Yeah, motherfucker. Say whatever you want. yeah no

I said no my first you know that was an attempt to you know keep keep the thumb on me so

a lot of that stuff I came was tried to be as wild as you could and it was out of desperation because you knew that you know you know

they could put the thumb on here or you know try to bury you which was a real thing back then there's still a generation of people that if I were to show them a photo of the Steiner brothers

they wouldn't believe that's you Oh, they didn't know what was me the next day. Because we wrestled at the pay-per-view when I turned on my brother. That morning, I went to a salon. It was in California, and that's when I bleached. And when I came to the building, it took them a while for people to recognize me. Like even announcers didn't really, didn't click until, yes, I looked totally different. Man.

So which was the exact thing that I wanted to happen. I didn't want to look, you know, anybody that. think that I was still, you know, Scott Steiner of the Steiner brothers. It's two very distinct careers. Yeah. Because you as a tag team wrestler, you guys were one of the greatest tag teams. One of the greatest? Did you say greatest?

Yeah, the greatest. Yeah. Then you become Big Papa Pump. Yep. And then you have an amazing run as a singles wrestler. Right. And it's like these two incredible careers that have like a perfect split in the middle there, right? You turn on Rick and then you become this other thing.

Right. Where'd that come from? It was just, well, the first started, like, there was also two different personalities. Like, when I first came out of college, I was like a college kid coming out, you know, happy, go lucky. But when you're in the, when you're wrestling for a while, you get, you know, things change, you know, setbacks. People keep you down, politics. You get pissed off. So at that point, when I turn.

a big power pump, I was very pissed off. And people could kind of tell that in my interviews. Because I was tired of the bullshit of professional wrestling. Things that happen behind closed doors, you don't really know what's going on. Luckily, I had some guys in the back doors that told me what was going on most of the time. But a lot of times I didn't know, you know. Like, that was a real thing back then, the older guys keeping the younger guys down, you know. And like, when I said that I got beat my first, you know, match after turning to heal,

the call was made by Hulk Hogan to get, have me beat. So which is, and the only reason I knew that because I knew somebody that was in the vicinity of talking to him. So which kind of pissed me out, but you can overcome wins and losses. You know, people can see your personality and what you do on camera. wins and losses, you can overcome them. But first, another wrestler to tell when another wrestler decides, he's going to decide who wins his bullshit. Why do you think he did that?

He's a motherfucker. There's no other way he can say it. He's a piece of shit. Like, we did a nitro in Buffalo. And I knew who I had a wrestle per se. but 10 minutes before the shows to go on air 10 to 8 I didn't know if it was going to happen or not we had to wait to Hogan got to the building and say clear it

yeah you can do it to have written down so it's like you know just shit like that so you're still not good with Hogan to this day I mean what am I going to do now you know I was like but you know I don't you know I don't forget you know I mean there's a reason why he got booed in California.

You know, I mean, all this stuff that came out with him, you know, racist comments. Now, you wouldn't ever found that out if it didn't, wasn't recorded behind, you know, closed doors. So I think a lot of people realize, you know, the perception or the perception that WWE or WCD wanted of Hulk Hogan was not really him. You know, the racist comment.

And, you know, Hogan and Savage, when I was good friends of Savage. So I knew all the stories. And he used to tell me all the stuff. And then, of course, the one time, you know, he tried to put me in jail. You know, so. And I was facing a serious time. I could have been, you know, in jail for, you know, 15 years.

For what? Well, I found out the bullshit he was doing in TNA. So when I left, I told him a couple of, you know, that it'd be known. Like, next time I see him, I'll slap the shit out of him. But I just see him for him for him. like a year and then I had met his wife at backstage and but when I threw this it was in San Jose for the rest ofmania and it was this platinum blonde that was looking at me like I kind of thought

oh there's a stripper you know but finally I kind of remember meeting so I was still wasn't sure show I went up to her and said are you hoke hogan's wife you know and she said yeah and at that point he was going to interrupt savage into Hall of Fame which I was which was bullshit so I told her that and I told her you know to use a piece of shit for that whole situation and I was going to slap the shit out of him well she had called I said that and I grabbed my I mean it was very nobody heard me it was very low key and I didn't raise my voice anything grabbed my bags and left well she called Hogan he came to the airport and that he called the San Jose Police Department

and say I slapped her and I threatened to kill him. Well, you know, it's terroristic threats and aggravated assault. You know, and so I got a call from San Jose Police Department. I mean, it was on TMZ and stuff

and luckily it happened at the airport because there were so many cameras. Otherwise, it would have been her and him against me. Right. So that would have been, you know, a tough case in court. But since it was on camera, you know,

I told you, I told you said, there's, don't bother me more, it's on camera, you know, and they stopped. So. Was it difficult in WCW to work with Hogan? You guys didn't know? No, because I didn't, I didn't, I really don't know how bad he was.

You know, still, like, what happens behind his closed doors, you don't really find out to maybe a year or two years later. And I mean, that situation's gone, so you're kind of like, that slide so no i mean but don't go at me wrong you know see when i when i grew up i wasn't not a wrestling fan because it's for the simple fact we didn't have no we had three channels when i was where i was born base city and it's like so it wasn't a big thing but it got big

and when i was in college that's when it blew up when hogan did the you know the rocky thing and then of course you know macho man big john studs ted de biazzi you know all the big names Yeah. So, you know, that's when I became a big fan. I was a big fan with my buddies and stuff. Matter of fact, when I first started wrestling, you know, I'm wrestling in the Yipslanti Armory Guard, you know, Armory. But then I went to the WrestleMania in Detroit where it was 100, not 100,

but I think it was actually 70,000. But it was amazing. 93,000, they said. Yeah, I don't know about that. But, I mean, I was, you know, we're in the Silver Dome. You know, it was crazy. So you can imagine me wrestling at Yipsilani Armory. You know, like next weekend I'm at the Silver Dome watching that.

I mean, it was a spectacle. It was amazing. I was sitting way up in a nosebleed sections. But lucky I got a ticket and it was, you know, kind of like kept me going into wrestling. Because, you know, when you first starting out, it's a small, you know, independence and you kind of sometimes you lose you know the bullshit that goes on is like you wonder if you're ever going to make it so so I had little motivational things that kept me going what did you think you were going to do after college I knew

I wasn't going to be a teacher you know I hadn't I knew I was going to do that I wasn't ready to give up my athletic and my brother was two years ahead of me so at that point when he went up to vera ganias camp with brad riding against and so i kind of know at that point that that's what i was going to do i was going to follow what he was doing when was when were things really starting to get over with big pop-a-pump when did you start to realize the fans were really buying into it uh probably maybe three four months into it four or five months into that, you know. Because you got to realize I had to be totally different than everybody.

Like Scott Hall and Kevin Nash, they were the cool heels. Hogan was what he did. And so I had to be, you know, portray as a wild man. You know, they went out there and said what he did, didn't give a shit. And I think people picked up on that. I think that's why it took off the way it did. What's the story behind your chain mail? Well, I had two girls walked out with me

And I was going to Went to a strip bar To find them some nice, you know, sexy lingerie stuff So they could walk out with me And I saw that The chain mail It was lit up like, well Like a dancer was wearing it?

No, it was in a case Oh So shit, I got to have that And I wore it out that night And I wore it ever since Oh like you literally bought that chain Wow I bought it at the strip club that afternoon in the Eppsalani,

and then I drove back to the Palace of Al of Auburn Hills and roared out that night. Was the intention of your promos to be funny? No. There was a little bit of humor, but in a mean tone. You know, it could be funny, but like that, a lot of stuff I said,

I was trying to be a prick, but in some, with some funny, stuff, you know, spread in. But then it turned into like, people were excited to hear your promos because they knew they were going to be funny. Funny and they knew there would be truthful. So, because a lot of those stuff that I was saying, you know, that people, that, and at that point, you know, a lot of people doing the same shit, I always try to change every interview

are the same, made sure it was different, try to make it that, you know, just, because, I didn't want to repeat myself. Yeah. Which I thought was, you know, lazy and kind of boring. So sometimes it works. Sometimes it didn't, you know. For a lot of people that are watching this, this is going to be the first time they hear your actual speaking voice. Yeah.

Well, I, it's blowing their mind right now. Yeah, I don't. When I was wrestling, I didn't like to do anything other than being Scott Steiner. Because I, in my mind, nobody wants to know about, you know, the real me. And now there's a lot of people that don't know the real me to this day. You know, there's a select few, you know, my brother, of course, and my wife and my kids, other than that, I don't show that side of me too much.

So can you turn on the promo voice just like that? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I can be pissed off. Oh, you have to be pissed off to do it? Yeah, but it don't take much, you know. So, plus I can, you know, have a perceived slight that it will piss me out. You know, I'm saying people are not used to hearing this voice from you. Right.

Well, you got to understand. A lot of, you know, a lot of people, you know, thought it was crazy, wild. But, you know, you are only a product of your environment, you know, like the way you're raised. And there's nothing you can do about it, you know. Like, for instance, like a lot of stuff are crazy, you would think was crazy. You would think was crazy. It was normal for me, you know, because I grew up in a, in. know, a farming area.

We had, we had, you know, we could feed ourselves off the garden. Then we had animals, you know, like chickens, had goats. We had a horse at one time. You know, and they were, but at some point, you got to eat them, the chickens, which, you know, I did not like. Because I remember the first time, and sometimes it'll still come up. Like, my brother and I, we had to kill the chickens, you know, you know, and so what that entails, one of us had to grab the head, stretch it, and cut his head off with an axe. Well,

you know what happens then, right? Then they've run around, right? Well, they'll flip and gushes, blood's gushing out, you know, especially in the wintertime if you do that, the blood gets all, you know, snow gets all red. So, but that was like five or six year old. So that's kind of a, kind of a, you know, different way to, you know, grow up, you know, cut your head off chickens. And that's not the, that's not still, that's really, because you still got, you know, undress them, you got to still got pluck all the feathers. And, you know, so that's something different in so. So, you know, I was, the stuff that we thought were normal, like, especially went to college, you know, we were like, you know, I was in culture shock, really went to college because we,

the way I was brought up was, you know, it was just different. So, and we, and we, and we, at the college, we were considered crazy, too, you know. Has you're going from a small town to a big city? Well, and then what you did, you know, like how many people were, you know, forced at, you know, a young age that cut a chicken's head off and, you know, cooking for dinner, you know. And you know, you're a little kid, like I said, it was like five, six, you know, seven, you know, you raised those chickens, you know, so you're like pets. But then, you know, when it comes time to eat, you got to, you know, you got to kill them. Wild. Yeah.

But that was, that's, that's the way it was. What's the wildest thing you did in wrestling? Well, I can't really say, you know, a lot of that stuff. Because, I mean, you were really thinking fucked up. But, you know, some of the stuff, like, like, we go down the road, we see somebody with it, like, one of them was to hang out and open the door when we're going, like, you know, 7580 down the road. You know, that was, I mean, I'll tell you, there's one story where it was, like,

we saw, I'm not going to name names, of course, but we're going to a town. And, uh, and, uh, we did, we were pulled up on somebody. And, uh, we opened the door. Well, it just so happened that they're all, we were snorting coke at the time. And all of a sudden, everything, thing, like, all the coke went into their faces, you know, it's like, uh, but then we went to the town and they didn't. show up. Well, what happened? They turned around, went back to Coke dealer and got more Coke. Oh, man. So, yeah, we're just wild stuff like that. And like, you know, bumping guys going down

the road, you know, soft. Sure. But, you know, so you don't make no damage. Crazy. Yeah. Oh, like one time where Russ, uh, Paul Heyman has told the story about the small ones going down the road and having war, you know, just throwing eggs and finally once stopped. We did, they didn't have no eggs. So we got firewood. through what the cars. So to this day, Paul, Paul Heyman can't rent from the rental place in Charlotte,

North Carolina. So if you grow up around animals, were you really comfortable when you did that entrance with the tiger on Nitro? Yeah, I was comfortable, but there was a difference because that, I mean,

that's a huge animal. It's paws were that big. I mean, his head was like that. Where did that ID even come from? Well, it just so happened that weekend. and we arrested a few households before the nitro, and the guy showed up.

And so I asked him if we'd want to go to, you know, which was so good for him because, you know, got his... The guy owned a bunch of animals. Okay. He was, you know, a lot of them were saved, you know. And so I asked him to come and I had to, you know, clear it through different channels, but they finally gave it to him.

They okay, the wreaths. And, yeah, like backstage, you know, there's a 2,500-pound animal. And the Ray Mysterio was wearing a zebra-print overhauls, and he squat down, you know. And that cat was like that. And I actually made the guy really nervous because he said, please, don't do that again.

Because if he attacks you, I can't stop him. So he was, yeah, I noticed there was a, it got tense for a little bit, you know. And then, but then we did a walk through before the show, which was a little bit different because during the show, you know, air shot up. And when that thing moved a little bit, there was nothing, you know, he felt the power. Because it shocked him a little bit. He moved a little bit and I was right next to him. So he moved me. It was like, damn, it's a powerful animal.

What was that cat's name? Do you remember? No. Sure someone will know. Yeah, I have no idea. But, you know, but that's, my uncle has a bear ranch up in Michigan, up our part of Michigan, the UP. He has, like, 30 bears.

He's had that for, like, you know, almost 35 years now. So people come in, take pictures with them, you know. And he's almost got caught a couple times if he didn't have his own escape route where, you know, the bear couldn't get him. But, you know, the bears, when they get older, they kind of go back to their, you know, their wild ways. And anything, if you get swat with it by a bear, you'll take your head off.

Oh, yeah. So it's, yeah, actually the University of Michigan took a trip up there. I think it was three years, four years ago, took pictures of it, of the bears, which is an attraction up there. So. Prize Picks is the best place to get real money sports action. With over 10 million members and billions of dollars in awarded winnings,

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And, you know, so I think, yeah, it was, it was just power for the course, I think. Was everything you did unpredictable? Did you write your promos out? Uh, yeah. I came up with old promos. And some of the times that was hard because, you know, like I would show up in nitro sometimes. It was so far off of what I thought would be on. the show was like, I mean, it was just, you know, it was so I now organized nothing.

So a lot of stuff I had come up without a fly, you know, so. And it's not no, it's not a secret how messed up. Like, like when Batonois and Perry Saturn, Dean Lamekelo and those guys, they split. They split because it was happening to them. Yeah. You know, so I, but I got labeled a bad guy because I would tell him, you know, I wouldn't take the bullshit or say what I wanted to do, you know what I mean? So some guys left, but I stayed and I got, I got heat for it saying, like, you know, I had a bad attitude, which was far from the truth. It's just that I don't, you know, luckily when I, after I got beat the first time, I went up to Eric and said, listen,

they obviously don't have anything, you know, thinking about, how about you just give me five minutes in the show and I'll do my own stuff, you know? And he, luckily for him, and luckily for me, it helped me out. So I was like all that first stuff that I did the first, you know, six years, six months to a year, like all the stuff that Eric just carved out five minutes for me. And I ran with it. if you had a microphone, it was one of those things where it's like, you got to watch.

Because you never knew what you were going to say. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of times there, you know, when I did that interview on Flair, there was the guys in the back, like, cut his music, cut his mic, cut his mic, we can't. Because it was like in the beginning, it was like a four-minute interview. And I said, we can't cut it because other guys got to speak after me. So, yeah, there was a lot of, you know, beeping and, you know.

But you weren't working with Flair at that time. Was that just a promo because you just didn't like him? Well, it was the bullshit that was going on. You know, I mean, I don't know. It was just, you know, it was something I thought of and I did. And you had a live mic. Yeah. Yeah.

And, yeah, no, they tried to fire me for that, you know. you know, JJ Dillon that. So how did you not get fired? Because it was bullshit. You know, NWO went out there and attacked anybody that they wanted every night. So I was pretty much staying with the standard

of what the NW did. And the stuff they were trying to say, it was like, it was so in touch with my character, you know, but then I got a lawyer, you know, so then they tried to suspend me, which they couldn't suspend me either. so nothing happened. So...

Flair probably wasn't happy about it. What's that? Flair probably wasn't happy. I didn't care. You know, I was expecting something in the back, but, you know,

nothing happened. Like you were expecting him to be waiting for you when you got back to? Yeah, you know, just come front of me or, you know, sucker punch me or something.

And I didn't give a shit. But, you know, I guess he was in the back room cried, you know. So, I mean, it's, it's,

I can say now it's regretful, you know, but back when you're, you know, back when you're young, you know, trying to get, climb the ladder and getting being held down. And it's the struggle. Sometimes, you know, you could lose your mind sometimes. Go crazy. Or get pissed off, which sometimes that all three have happened, you know, to me. So, yeah, man, there are so many things I did not care about. You know, at some point I didn't care if I got fired, you know. But some of your best promos were where it'd be when you forget your lines or you would mess something up when you were talking.

Yeah, but I think that, you know, the fans connected with that because when you're in a real situation, nothing is going to come out exactly, you know, connectionated right or whatever, you know. So I sometimes when I didn't say something right, come on different people understood that because it and it came off cross because it was I was pissed and I was pissed so and that translated I think that people picked up on that what led the decision to you for you to get as jacked as you did uh well I didn't get a whole lot bigger I just got cut yeah I mean I got ripped like when I first got in the in the wrestling you know being big was what it was you know what it was all about like the road warriors and I remember Hawk

was doing a wrestling match against Lex Lueh and I remember the line he said cuts up for kids you know which is the way everybody thought you know being as big as as kid but when I turned you know

big pop-pump I had the back problems too so I had get lighter and I just got leaned out so I looked a lot but I was yeah I was I got bigger more cut I mean you had one

of the greatest physiques in all of wrestling. Right. That was, that's what I tried to do, you know. Who were some of the other people you think had great physiques in the history of wrestling? Well, when I first started, Paul Orndorff, Supervisor Snooka,

I mean, there is, and I always thought that was a good thing because that was your presentation. So I, so I always, well, name a few, I'll tell you. Ultimate Warrior.

Yeah. Well, I see, I knew Jim. I was in college when they were down in UWF with my brother. So I went to met them when I just had just graduated after my senior year and I met them and they were all living in the same apartment complex. What about Lex Lugar? Oh, no, Lex has always been ripped, you know. So.

Brock Lesnar? Yeah. But he's not, he's a, he's, he's, he's, he's, different cat. He's also, he's huge. I don't care, I don't think he cares if he's cut. You know what I mean? So, Bobby Lashley? Yeah, Bobby's a good guy. Yeah, Bobby's shredded. Yeah. And amazingly, he's still, you know, he looks the same. Yeah, he hasn't aged much at all. He hasn't aged at all. He's aged like a week in the last 20 years. Right. Yeah, I've wrestled him down to TNA, so he's a good guy.

Chris, Chris Master's physique when he first came in was impressive. Yeah, no, he looked good. Yeah. I knew him before he got into wrestling. I met him in Gold's Gym in California.

Oh, he still works out there. Yeah. Yeah. And he was saying, he was thinking about getting in wrestling. And he said, well, you got to look. So then a couple of years earlier,

he was wrestling. If for you, your body was so much a part of who you were, that's difficult, right? Because you're constantly chasing, like, well, now I've got to keep this and somehow maybe even get bigger or more cut. Right.

That's a slippery slope. Yeah. At that time, I was eating like six, seven times a day. And so I was eating every three hours. And, of course, I was lifting heavy. And it was, especially at top of that, you had to travel. So that made it hard. Yeah.

So, yeah, you definitely had to be dedicated. What were your best lifts? weights are females what about bench press right see the thing is I never when a uh more travel that much I never

tried to go heavy like max because it would screw up the next couple workouts because you know doing it one rep is so you're just chasing the pump yeah well but I was going fairly heavy like

I did like at one time I was doing like like 485 like 12 times 13 times that's crazy and then I did I was doing front front presses I was doing 345 like 10 times in the front you know wow yeah like shoulder press

yeah so but I never did you know single lifts you know one rep what would a typical workout look like for you in your prime it's still the same as it was when I first started, I would do one body part a day. Like the bodybuilder workout. Yeah, because it gave you the right amount of time to stay in the gym without over training.

Plus, you didn't have that time anyway. So that was just enough time to get in the gym and out training one body part. Is that what you still do now? Yeah. Not as heavier, you know, but yeah, pretty much. What did it mean to you when you did become the world champion in WCW? of course when you get in the rest of you want to be the top dog but also you know it was an accomplishment for me because I had a battle all those the office so much you know me

and you know other guys on top so it meant a lot you know because I never kissed kiss anybody's ass and I was best friends with the bookers or anything like that so I meant a lot. And you didn't feel like you were ever the guy. What's that? You didn't feel like you were ever the guy. Like you ever had a chance to be. Well, I was, yeah, it was a struggle to be there.

But finally when it happened, it was, you know, it was a good thing. I was very happy. I watched that last Nitro on VHS like, I don't know, three dozen times. Oh, yeah. And it's you versus Booker T. Yep. first of all, walk me backstage. What's the vibe like?

You know it's the last night show. And oh, by the way, Shane McMahon's just standing around here. Well, I thought, and rightfully so, I thought we're all fucked. Because wrestling needed competition, one guy having to be in a boss is not a good thing. And, you know, you got to remember we were, we beat those guys for 83 weeks straight. And they took that personally. Vince did. a lot of guys did

so that's why you saw when we all went up there like me and Nash Nash is really tight with Triple H to this day he went up there and beat him by disqualification and then lost to him the second I did the same thing look what they did Scott Hall

yeah I mean he didn't last long at all Is it that they didn't want WCW guys to get over that and they wanted to show like we won the war you guys are second rate. I mean, look at they did the sting. Sting, what, at one match, run WrestleMania, lost trip.

He didn't come over to WWE until years later, over a decade later. But still, that still shows you they still, you know, held that grudge. They still wanted to show, like. Yeah, it feels like there's only two WCW guys that really got over in WWA. It's Booker T and Ray Mysterio. Yeah. Like, DDP didn't have a... Oh, yeah, that's another one.

DDP. I mean, he did a horrible stalker gimmick, and then he was done. So, I mean, it was so obvious. But looking back, I can't say that I would have been happy if it was the other way around, like having those guys come in and, you know, want us to not win. I can see that. And I mean, I couldn't see it back then because back then I thought, you know, we're all in the same profession.

We all basically know each other. So why would you hold that against one wrestler that wrestled for another group? Yeah. It had to make sense to me. But now, you know, I've put a lot of that in past. I had to put it in the past. I mean, I couldn't remain pissed off the rest of my life. And a lot of that changed when Bronson started wrestling.

So, you know, I couldn't really hold that. It took a while then. Oh, yeah. You know, real long time. There was some serious hatred there, you know. And unfortunately, I didn't go up there in the best shape that I could have. Because at that time, like when I wrestled Booker, I shouldn't have wrestled that match. On the last nitro?

Yeah, because my foot was totally paralyzed. My doctor didn't want me to wrestle. But he told me that, you know, your muscle or the nerve will regrow, you know, small centimeters every year. So I was relying on that to come back, but it never came back. Finally, when I left WWF, or WWE, what was it? I mean, I know what it was at the time. I had surgery on my ankle where it took my tendon that's on the right side of your foot, put it on top, and I got 18 screws and two plates.

And the doctor was very optimistic. He said it happened. He did it at surgery before, and it helped the full out player. But it didn't do nothing for me because it's still paralyzed. Still to this day. You have no feeling in your foot? No, when I put my shoe on, I got to put my foot down, flatten it out, and then push a little bit and flag.

Otherwise, my toes were this role. What caused this injury? I don't know. I mean, I wrestled one night in Tennessee, and the next morning I wrestled in Knoxville, woke up, and it was like that. They said I hit that pronio nerve. I mean, just called drop foot. But, you know, to this day, I still will trip for the last, you know, 25 years, I'll, I won't fall, but I'll stumble because this foot is still dead and it still drags.

Like, I can't. It's like that. I am trying to move it. I can't do that right there. Wow. I can't bring it up. Yeah. So, most of the time I wear a brace, you know, but that's, sometimes I don't, you know, like I'm traveling.

I'll wear a brace. Why didn't you go to WWE right after WCW got bought? Because I was under contract. It was me, what, Goldberg, I think Nash and Hall, were still under contract. Yeah. So I wasn't, why would I leave, you know, because they were giving out lower a contract at the time. So they never made no sense to me. I mean, he had called me up, and I had a number that I had mine to pay me.

Because they wanted me, Johnny Ace was calling me, and they wanted me, hey, we got you to wrestle with you and Austin against Scott Hall and Kevin Nash. You know, dangled that carrot, you know. Yeah, all right, just pay me what I wanted. Never, so that never, I don't know. It could have been bullshit. It could not been, you know, but, and then one other time in the summertime, he called me back and they were, you know, that's when WWE was getting in the movies. Oh, you want to be a movie star, right?

It's like, I really don't care. Just pay a movie what I asked for it. And finally it came about in October and November. So when you did finally go to WWE, did they pay you what you wanted? Yeah, no, they, like what I was asking for. Good. on a downside guarantee. Yeah.

But it still wasn't what I was hoping to me. So it just feels like you didn't have the opportunities you should have gotten WWA. Well, nobody did. You know, all those names that were rattled off. You know,

they made it a point to show that they were the better product, the better wrestling company. And, you know, they did win the war. But it's a, you know, it's a tainted win.

Because there's so many finches. fishy things that went on with, you know, Brad Siegel, the lawyer that worked for WCW that was now worked for WWE. I mean, they covered pretty good in that the death of WCW. So, listen, when I came to NWA, which was later WCW, I knew right then in 87 or 88, the executives did not like wrestling. No reason it was there because Ted Turner. So that was, you know, 88 to the, The time it finally closed, you know, the executives won. And Ted was out of control, didn't have much control then, so that's when they got rid of it. So it was inevitable, you know.

But then after that, you went to TNA. Yep. And we got the most memorable work of your career. Well, I just went there, one, because, you know, it was Jeff. Jeff's thing, and I've been friends with Jeff for a long time. And I had had the surgery, so wanted to prove that, you know, I could still go. not as good as I wasn't before, but with a repaired ankle,

I could still have good matches. But wrestling's about moments, and you gave us so many moments in TNA. Yeah. Yeah, I was having a good time. You know, that's when my kids were small, and they used to love to come down, playing the ring before the taping started.

So, yeah, you know, made up at Mafia. Yep. That was always, that was a good time, wrestling and all those other guys that, And, you know, trying to help, you know, like AJ style, small Joe, you know, take them to the next level. So did you, did you write out the math promo before you did it? No, I just thought about it. Like, spur of the moment?

No, I knew like maybe an hour before I started thinking about it. They told me I had to do interview and I just, you know, it just, you know, I come from a high educated university. So it just made sense. All the numbers made sense. And actually there's a Harvard professor. I don't know because, you know, everything you read on Twitter is, you know, 100% true. Oh, sure, yeah. So he checked the numbers and said, yeah, they ended up.

So I'll take that Twitter feed. So you're sitting there knowing, all right, we've got this three-way match and then you're starting to put the numbers together on this? Yeah. The numbers make sense. They add up, right? I believe so. Right. I mean, you're the mathematician, not me.

Yeah, so yeah, but it don't matter. It made sense in my mind. That all the audience figured the rest out. Did you have any idea after cutting that promo that it would be as memorable as it was? No, I had no idea. And it's actually, you know, I'm appreciative of the fans that still remember it. So, yeah, and it turned out to be people, you know, they still talk about it to this day. No, that's one of your most memorable promo.

was ever. Yeah, like, I think Wendy's did a commercial on the internet using that. I think another way, KFC did something like that. So, yeah, people, it's called on and it stuck for all these years. Was this supposed to be funny? Well, there's a touch of humor. And I tried to do that in all my, you know. But if you see how I was talking, I was still in a straight face, pissed off,

is spouting out the numbers. But that's what makes it so fun. Right. Oh, yeah. Is that you're so serious about these numbers. What are the 33 and a third? 66 and two thirds and 141 and two-thirds chance. It's you saying it with a straight face with such conviction that makes it so funny. Right. Yeah, I've learned that from watching other guys do interviews, like Macho Man, who had a great interview. it didn't really matter what he said per se.

It's just how he said it and how he delivered it and made people believe that was what was, you know, what he believed. So if you can make the audience, the people in the crowd believe what you're saying, that's the battle. Also in TNA, he's fat. It was so funny. Oh, yeah, he's fat.

Fat ass is like, yeah. I mean, I do cameos, and like a lot of times the guys will, you know, just, can you please call my buddy a fat ass? He's getting married and tell him that you're going to steal his wife. And so, and then like the last one I did, he says, man, I've been working out. I think I'm in great shape, but I quit working out for a little bit. I need a pep talk.

Can he call me a fat ass? It's like, all right. So now people still love that, you know. It's just the way you said it. It's fat. Right. Yeah. That's it. That's the end of the sentence.

That's all I had say. But again, here we are 20 years later, still talking about it. Right. Yeah, still, yeah, people still like it. I, of course, loved Mexico North. Well, you're from Mexico North. I am from Canada. Yeah, well, pretty sure. Luckily, you'll be part of the 51st state.

And, you know, we could be, you know, share the same passport. You don't have to have that bullshit document that Canada gives you. I'm good. Good. Yeah, you should be great. It'd be great to be an American. I've lived here long enough. Life's good.

No, man, that's, yeah. I just did a trip up in Canada about a month ago. And shit, I got stopped at the border. So I'd have paid like $269. It's probably because you got these guns, right? Yeah. No, fuck. $269 to say I was a temporary resident.

So me and you, like two months ago, we're tight. For like eight hours? Yeah, eight hours. Yeah, it'd be out of the country by midnight. So. How does your mind work when you're putting a promo together? Mexico North is hilarious. Yeah, it makes sense to me.

Don't make sense to you. Ah! You know, Mexico's low, the United States, in Canada. is above. It's like, so it's like, it's like, it's like,

I've heard America's hat. Right. But they're interchangeable. Your countries are interchangeable. Both, most of you guys are on welfare, right? Most you cut grass.

I don't think that's, cut grass. A lot of snow right now. Right. But when it's some, winters over, you cut grass. So you guys got the same kind of,

you know, touch. We're getting a great Scott Snyder promo right now. What did they tell you before you went out there to do the ring announcing in TNA? Nothing. You're going to be a ring announcer. What was on those pieces of paper you were holding? That was stuff I wrote down so I could remember.

Like, I had a lot of good time with, or being down there with Bubba. And he did not like to be called fat. of course so that's when he told me he's something you don't like or please don't do that is of course I would do it like so I remember like when I announced where he was from

from the state of obesity you know but look you can look at his face you know he's but he I could honestly say he's probably laughing inside because me and Bubba had some good times doing interviews down there so but oh yeah this

like I said it was being mean in a humorous way and making it come out like you're pissed off and being a prick. Is there an underrated Scott Steiner promo

that you wish more people would talk about? They always talk about the math promo. They always talking about he's fat, talking about you being a ring announcer, but is there one that you wish

more people would talk about? No, not really, man. Sometimes when I look back at some of those interviews I did, it's kind of cringy for me, you know,

because I was at a different space. I was single, traveling the country, you know, cuffs were off. It freaks nine days a week. Yeah. Yeah, you remember that one?

But no, I was different. And it's like, but now that, you know, married, had my, you know, kids, raised my kids.

When I look back, some of it's, you know, like, what the fuck was I thinking? But that's what makes them so good. Right. Yeah.

But yeah, that's, I was just out of control. And like, I think especially in WCW, the big pop-up pump character was like just like sex driven too. You talked about that, like the women all the time. Yeah, but that had an opposite effect that I thought it was because I was trying to get, I wanted everybody to hate me. So male or female. So I want to start talking my freaks.

it was always about me dominating him, you know, horizontally. So, so it was, that was, that kind of did not have the reaction. I thought, because I thought it would kind of like me coming over,

massacionistic and stuff like that. But that, I don't know, that took out of life and so on. So the women started to like you because of this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You know. So. That was by accident. So you were trying to get people to hate you. And every sense of work. And instead, they started to like you. Yeah. So, which is crazy if you think about it.

It is. Yeah. So, but yeah, that was just stuff I thought of, you know, trying to be a lot different than I was when I was Scott Steiner with Steiner brother. Men, if you've lost your hair, it doesn't mean you can't find it again. Try Hymns hair loss solutions and you'll be joining hundreds of thousands of subscribers who found their hair again.

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What do you think your legacy is in the ring? I don't know. Because I'll be honest with you, like when I come home, that's the furthest thing from my mind. So, wrestling is very subjective. and it's all up to the fans how they like you, how they perceive you. So what I think of my legacy is,

I really have no control of that. It's up to the fans. You know, as long as they get it right, like I came with the Frankenstein, not the fucking Hurricane Rana, you know, the Steiner screwdriver, you know. And of course, you know, when I did the first one to do a 450 splash,

You were the first one to do a 450 splash? Yeah, it's on tape. So as to cold Scorpio, because he likes to claim that. But no, it's... Everyone would assume it's a luchador or a cruiserweight. No, it's time stamped because I did in 1987 and when I was wrestling for Dick the Bruiser. And, of course, back then, I had hit my feet first. It was quick like that.

But because back then, if you hurt anybody, pretty soon they wouldn't call you anymore because you cannot hurt a veteran and couldn't hurt anybody else. Otherwise, you couldn't get booked anywhere. So I had that split second of hitting my feet to hitting the road over. Look it up.

It's on, you can Google it. This is like the greatest answer to a trivia question. Who invented the 450? That's right. Scott Steiner. Yeah. But no, it's not me just talking trash.

I mean, it's Google. You know, you can Google it. That Frankensteiner is such an impressive move. Yeah, that came about when I was in Memphis. I thought about doing it. No way I thought about it because a lot of people, a lot of guys were doing a victory which was, I don't know if you know, a victory role. And I thought that made zero sense whatsoever.

You know, I mean, just the way it happens. So I came up with throwing, shooting them off the ropes to come back and hitting them with it. So, and that, luckily that caught on two people loved it. And so, like the Steiner screwdriver looks like it breaks somebody's neck. Yeah. So that was another way I came with. And I just, you know, it just what I thought of. What do you think of Bronner breakers, Frankensteiner?

He does it good, you know, he does it great, you know what I mean? He stands up there, he pauses for a minute. Yeah. And then he hits it? Yeah. athletic. I mean, he was another, you know, I used to love going to his games in high school and stuff. You know, he's phenomenal scoring touchdowns. I mean, like the, the, uh, on Pat McAfee's show all the highlights he had on there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because he had the weird style, too,

it was like, when he started going, his head would start going back and he'd be run like, I mean, it was crazy, but he was, nobody could catch him. So I had a lot of fun watching him in in high school and college. So. What do you've been up to recently? Your Twitter has been just bananas recently. Yeah, I just, uh, I met this guy who, very good with setting stuff up. So I just, I'm really,

I'm really, the only time I really did Twitter is when I did that stuff with, when I was in TNA and a Hogan. That's, we're kind of blew up and, but, were like rants. Yeah. So I, and I, I really didn't do too much. about it until, you know, just recently we started like a month and a half ago, you know,

doing Twitter, you know, Instagram, Facebook and stuff. So, yeah, it's been blowing up. And you got a website now? Yep. So, yeah, we're. The Genetic freak.com. Yeah. Yeah. We just launched that also. And it's, yes, me to connect with the fans, you know, and there's, you know, give away stuff and membership. So it's, uh, It's a good thing. I'm actually surprised you were more active earlier. Like, fans love you. Like, you mean something to them from that era.

Right. Well, I was, I never got into wrestling to be famous. I got in to be, to make money. And I never. You got both. Yeah, but I never, I really, maybe even to this day, like, really not comfortable being recognized.

I'd rather go into the store and not be recognized. You might want to shave then. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard. But yeah. It's hard to not recognize a guy who has a beard like this. Yeah, no, during the pandemic it was nice because I wear a mascot. But no, it's a, but on other hand, if you don't get recognized, you know, the alternatives,

they don't give a shit about you. So it's a two-edged sword. So it's good, come good, comes with bad or vice versa. Have you seen these photos of Sting recently where he has a lot of? goate and people say that he could be like the third Steiner brother. Oh yeah. I haven't seen this. No. I feel like I got to show you this. Oh, really? No, I haven't seen him. Yeah. It feels like he could be a Steiner. Oh, yeah. It's very similar goatee to what you have. With the, not, well, he does paint his face now over top of it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, maybe pull it up. You got it there? Oh. Here, I'll pull it up.

We'll get your take on, uh, on current day sting. Well, you see, what we, when we, When I first come to the NWA and WCW was always my brother and him and Lex was us four. So for like the first, you know, three, four years in NWA and WCW, we used to travel together. Oh, wow. Yeah, long, you know, because back then you had to wrestle. Our contracts were at 330 days. And I looked back and I was like, I looked back at my old pay sheet one time. It was like, we wrestled seven days a week, twice on Saturday, twice on Sunday.

So it was crazy. Look at that guy. Oh, yeah. Right? Yeah. You see it? Yep. It could be.

I'm sure he wishes he was. What's this event you have going on during WrestleMania week? It's the Tuesday of WrestleMania week. Yeah. April 15th. Yeah, the Tuesday of that WrestleMania week is wherever I'm wrestling. on the Tuesday, and it's something we set up. And it's, it should be good, there's a lot of, you know,

powerful wrestlers, I mean, powerful arm wrestlers that were legit. I forgot the girl's name. She's a six-time world champion or something. Eight-time world champion. We'll pull up all the info here for you. So it's a legit arm wrestling stuff. So it's just a collaboration that, what I did. Sarah Backman,

eight-time women's arm wrestling champion. Also, she was in NXT as well. Right, I heard that. And then there's a couple other world champions that are going to be there. And your arm wrestling there? I don't know if I'm arm wrestling. I think I'm just, you know,

Master MC. But it should be a good fun event. You know, it's open to the public. I don't know what the charge is. But yeah, it's going to be just another event on the list of week-long great events. I've always wondered, what's the meaning behind your chest tattoo? That was because I had torn muscle. Like if you see my early pictures and then, you know, later on, you'll see like there's a little split in there.

Yeah. And then finally it got to be pretty wide. So the tattoo, like all my tattoos, are to cover up, you know, muscle tear or scars. Like, that's my scar, my back is pretty, all of it's pretty much tattooed. That's because I have a huge scar that goes from like the bottom of my shoulder, but in my back all the way and comes around. And I got two like indentions, indentations where, you know, there's a tube in there for when I got kicked in my, I got quick at my throat.

I had five hours to live in Puerto Rico. So that was to cover that up. And then, you know, like I've, I've had surgery on everything about my right ankle. So I had a lot of scars. So I just wanted to cover them up. So that's where the heart was the first one. The cross with the heart. And then that was to cover up the, you know, the muscle tear.

And then that I just tried to cover up the. rest of them. What happened to your chest? Why did it tear? Just wearing tear, man. You know, Russell, that many, that many days in a year. And of course, lifting heavy too. Probably did something. Then, you know, I mean, the road beats you up. You know, I mean, it's not as bad. Like, I talked to Bronson, I talked to them today, actually. Like, their schedule was not anything near what we did, which is a good thing, I think. You know, you just wear your body. out. So that's, like I said, everything about my

right ankle had surgery. Did you look in the mirror one day and go, man, what's going on with my... Well, I watched it gradually tear, you know, from the so I first saw it, I saw a little tear and I'm going to go, what, what's that? You know, and then finally it just kept on tear and you know, it happened during the match

because I don't remember it happening. It just kept on going wider and wider. Then one day I woke up and said, damn, it's pretty wide. So, It's just a freak thing. And you can't repair it. What's the most painful injury you had?

The most painful has been a few. When I had my back, I had back surgery. I had ruptured disc L3, L4, L5. The nerve pain was so bad. That was brutal. But then, you know, my foot was painful. Then when I had surgery my knee, you know, I had an infection.

and that after surgery that was the most pain I ever had so that I had to go back down to Dr. Andrews I had an infection and he said if I would wait at a day or it's too long they would have amputate my leg oh my gosh that that was painful it was brutal man and then you know I got titanium in my shoulders like if I'd move this arm like that it felt like somebody was stabbing me in my shoulder. And I couldn't lift up, you know, get something out of the cupboard or anything. I mean, that, that was brutal, man. So that was very painful. Like still, can you not lift? No,

I'm no, it's fine. You know, I'm like $6 million man now. They're all titanium. So, but that was, you know, I probably should have done like five, six years earlier. But, you know, you think just trying to hold off surgery, it might go away, but it never went away. So, but it never went away. So So finally, I just couldn't take it anymore. What do you think has been the cost to be Scott Steiner, to be Big Papa Pump? You mean how much people would pay to be me? No. I mean.

Or how much women would pay to be with you? All your freaks, right? Yeah. Oh, that's immeasurable for the women. What has the cost been for you? Well, like all the injuries I had, you know. But saying that, I wouldn't trade it for anything else. When I was in college, man, I had so much fun with my buddies and stuff.

I mean, the things that I did, people would think was great. Like one time, they have like homecoming, you know. So all the, a lot of fraternities were having like a mud bowl, you know. So, you know, athletes kind of clash with their fraternity boys, you know. So when I have a mud bowl, I grabbed my buddy's motorcycle, drove down in a mud bowl, did a couple of years, you know, donuts and stuff and finally took off. And it was like, I mean, I was just, I had such a fun time in college. And I didn't think I could surpass that. But when I got in professional wrestling, it was a different ball game.

because, you know, you're young and you're making a lot of money money. You're always on the road. So, you know, there's a lot of stuff that you could get in trouble for. So, uh, so I had more fun in professional wrestling than I did in college. So I wouldn't change it for anything. You know, I couldn't, I can't imagine me not doing it. It looked like you had a lot of fun. Oh, yeah, I did, man.

And I think that's probably what got my boy into it, wanting to do it, because what Bronson is doing now, he's having fun. And so I think with them talking all the time, like Bronson, my boy, Brock, brother boy Brandon, and sometimes some of the wrestlers with Bronson and some of Brandon's basketball players, they always play video games. So I think that Brock talking to Bronson kind of turned. a Brockington wanting to do it. I think it's just a matter of time before we see him in there.

Yeah, we'll see what happens, you know. We'll see what happens this last year. We'll see if he's drafted or anything. To the NFL? Yeah. Is that a possibility? Possibility. You never know.

He's got great combine numbers as far as speed, his leaping ability. And he's a wide receiver? Yeah. Mostly wide receiver. Sometimes, you know, scat back. so yeah well we did that thing when he did a bowl game i don't know if you saw that and then me and bronson were uh doing an interview with i think it was right after the second half and we're talking to the to the espn person and just as we were talking brought caught a long pass and

it was kind of like uh football is rigged but it was just coincidence that it just happened you know I love that Braun Breaker cut a little bit of a Steiner Math promo. Like a little, he threw it in there a little bit. Yeah, he's done it a couple times. I know he did it one time, but he'll just do a little snippet.

You mentioned numbers and people, you know, enjoy that. Do you still know the whole promo? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I could,

but, you know. You could just say it. Yeah, I mean, but I, you know, pay me.

Mm. You know, nothing's comes free. Not, not, that's true. Because, you know, all men are not creed equal, that's the fact. You know what I mean? But, you know, so. What about Kerrangle?

Oh, Kurt Engel knows. What if you put Samoa Joe in there? He's a fat ass, man. I always love how you said Kurt Angle. Yeah. Crankel! Kurt's a good guy, man. He's a great guy.

He was just on the show. recently. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, much respect to him because when I went in the University of Michigan, you know, I had, my grad assistant was training for Olympics and he actually became the first American to win a gold medal in Gregor Roman wrestling. And so I saw how much he trained. And so I know Kurt had a deal with the same, you know, torturous workouts to push your, you know, self beyond limits, you know. So I always had that much respect for him. Who do you think it's your greatest rival during your career?

I always looked at it as like if I was with the Steiner brothers, equally on the other side had to be somebody that was, you know, despised, hated by the, by the, you know, by the fans. So when we wrestle Doom, it was awesome. I mean, there was some Butch and Ron, they're great athletes. But then when we wrestled Lexus thing at the pay-per-view, that was a great match also. It was kind of different for that point in time in wrestling because it was two good guys,

you know, four guys, you know, two good under the same side of the ledger. That was good. But then also, when I was a heel, anybody that, that would get the crowd going, it was the best because I could get them pissed off at me. I said, I didn't have a problem with that. They also love to cheer you. Even if you were, even if you were trying to be a heel.

Yeah, at some point it got to that. It's hard not to cheer you. Right. So, but, yeah, we, no, we wrestled pretty much everybody that was to wrestle. Yeah. So, and we just went out there, you know, balls to the wall and try to give the fans the best match possible. I want to say thank you for doing this.

Thank you for making the time. Oh, I've been trying to track you down for a long time. I've been trying to hook up, but it's like never, like I said, the first time. I should have just hauled.

That's all I needed to do. Yeah. All I needed to do this whole time. All I need to do is holla. Holla. However here. But you didn't hear me. Yeah.

Well, probably it was with time you do it, though. That's right. You got to get me late. I don't get up early. I didn't hear the size. It wasn't happening. Jordan Grace is using the sirens now. Is she?

Yeah. Yeah, I met her in TNA. She's, you know. Yeah. She's coming a long way. Jen, she's jacked. Right.

Yeah. She looks good. Yeah. She's using the siren. She was using them in TNA, but she's using them in WWE too. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, okay.

So, I mean, I don't know about you. Every time I hear a siren. Right. I think, holla, if you hear me. Right. Maybe Brock could come on with a sireer. What kind of, was that an ambulance, police car, fire truck? Well, from my specialty, it's probably a copse.

Yeah, it was a cop. Why was it a siren at the start of your entrance statement? It was just something I came up, was me and one of my wife's friends she knew from back in Buffalo or Rochester. His name was Zeb. Ben Zebelman. He did music. and still does in New York, and I collaborated with him.

We came up with our own, came up with that interest music, which is why I could still use it to this day because I own that. Oh, wow. Yeah. Well, again, thank you. I hollied, you heard me?

Yeah. Thank you for making this happen. Oh, yeah. No, thanks for having me, man. And I will wrap this up with the question. I ask everybody at the end. Gratitude is the most important thing in my life. I wake up every day.

I say I allow three things I'm grateful for. for. I do it before I go to bed and that's what I do at the end of every interview. So what are three things in your life, Scott, that you're grateful for? The three things? Yeah. My wife and two kids. Easy enough. Yeah, it doesn't get any better than that, you know?

Yeah. So nowadays it's like the best thing that ever happened to me, you know. You know, some people are lucky and some people, unfortunately are not lucky. And I just found a great woman. Yeah. It puts up with my shit. Can you give us just a little bit of big pop-a-pump before we wrap this? stuff. Oh, man. If I did that,

I have to punch you. I'll take it. I will take it. No, I can't. I can't. You're like, I don't want to punch you, Chris. I don't want to punch you, Chris. You got to fly out, right? I do. Yeah. You don't want a hospital bill. I don't know what I mean? Man, you're so kind. I'd hate to fix those dentures you're wearing. Is there my real teeth? No.

Yeah. I don't know. I see him slipping there once while. Stop it. I thought they're dentures. These are my real, I have a great dentist. Thank you. Oh, thank you, man.

All right, there we go. Man, he has some stories. So good to have Scott Steiner on the show. He hosts Bicep Bash, Las Vegas, on April 15th during WrestleMania Week, or arm wrestling meets pro wrestling. Check out Scott's official website for more details and it become a Steiner Insider.

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