Insight with Chris Van Vliet - Should Hornswoggle Be In The WWE Hall Of Fame? WeeLC, Vince McMahon's Son, Anonymous Raw GM, Fit Finlay & More!

Episode Date: February 2, 2023

Dylan Postl (@dylanpostl) is a professional wrestler and actor who is best known as Hornswoggle from his time in WWE and Swoggle in Impact Wrestling. He joins Chris Van Vliet to talk about his new podcast called "Going Postl", his iconic career in WWE, how he got started, getting trained by Mr. Kennedy, being part of the storyline where he was Vince McMahon's son, his role as the anonymous Raw General Manager, being part of the first ever WeeLC match, his friendship with Ethan Page, coming out to AJ Style's music on Impact Wrestling, getting ask to be a member of Degeneration X and much more! Listen to Dylan's podcast "Going Postl" here: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/going-postl/id1664477039 For more information about Chris Van Vliet and INSIGHT go to: https://podcast.chrisvanvliet.com If you enjoyed this episode, could I ask you to please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcast/iTunes? It takes less than a minute and makes a huge difference in helping to spread the word about the show and also to convince some hard-to-get guests. Follow CVV on social media:  Instagram: instagram.com/ChrisVanVliet Twitter: twitter.com/ChrisVanVliet Facebook: facebook.com/ChrisVanVliet YouTube: youtube.com/ChrisVanVliet TikTok: tiktok.com/@Chris.VanVliet Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

All systems are going. Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Van! Oh, how the heck are you, my friends? Welcome back to another audio adventure here on Insight. It's me, it's me, it's CVV, Chris Van Fleet. Great to have you with us here. And so great to have my friend Dylan Postel back on the show. Of course, you know him better from his time in WWE as Hornswoggle.

And it's been a while. It's been three plus years. I mean, I think the last time that Hornswog was on the show was in the first year of the podcast, which was 2019. So a lot of catching up to do here. And I guess one of the biggest things is he has a new podcast. It's called Going Postal. You can check that out.

Wherever you're listening to this right now. So when this episode's done, go give it a listen there. And snap a screenshot. Let us know that you're listening to this. Let us know what you think of it. And tag us. Dylan is at Dylan Postel. I am at Chris Van Fleet.

And shout out to my man, Homebrionics, who left this review on Apple Podcast. It says, Chris has an amazing ability to create a comfort zone so early on in his interviews that the good stuff flows early and easily.

He is a pro's pro. Now, that is awfully kind. So thank you very much for that. And you know the drill here. I read one review from Apple podcast on every single episode. So if you haven't left a review, go in there, leave a few words. Or if you have left a review, go back in, click on that write a review thing in Apple Podcasts, and add a few words, take away a few words, add an emoji, whatever it is. It refreshes it to the

top, and then we'll read it out here. It's all it takes. All right, let's dive into this. Please welcome Dylan Postel, aka Hornswoggle. Dylan, it's always so good to see you. I know. I know it is. And now you ask me if I'm coming out to L.A. or Vegas, and I was like so excited. I was like, oh, man. Oh, I don't have anything out there coming up. I could have sat in a hot seat in front of like a cool set.

And now it's just me in my office in front of my own wrestling figures and a fake cruiserweight title that I had to get on www.com. You had to buy your own title? Yes. No. But I have a one-of-one Hornswagel McMahon nameplate on it. Wow. Which I don't care about the title then at that point. Sure.

Yeah, it's one of those cool things that I received from when I was there, and no one else has that, which is pretty cool. And it was only used like a handful of times on TV. That's cool. Look, I would have preferred to do this in person. I think there's so much better in person. The last interview that we did in person, I've seen you a bunch of times since.

The last interview we did in person, we were crawling into the ring together. I was going to your home. We were in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, and then we shot this little, like, intro thing of like... Oh, yeah, now I remember. Okay. Was that one of the main weekends?

It was gangrel's show. It was gangrel's show. That's what it was. But that was all that was. It was a lot of... Oh, my God. jogging here. Wow.

Yeah. I completely, I knew we did it at a show, but I couldn't think of the life of me what show it was at. That makes perfect sense, though. What's your most prize possession here behind you? Is it, is it the nameplay? Man. You've got so many cool things. So we all see the WLC table. So I add immediately, it's shitty lighting in here. I'm very professional, you know. but the we'll see table obviously it's like

the coolest the best match I've ever done and the best thing I've ever done in my career in the ring and so

immediately after the match I headed to the props department I was like hey I need a piece of that table right now and I got a piece of the table and I got a signed by everyone that was involved

in the match so probably that that's that and then my book because that's like such a personal project of mine and such a kind of a self-therapy, so to speak, of just getting kind of everything out there, my story, which is available right now on dillimpossal.com, of course. And it's just, it's, the book was a project I never thought would have come, came out.

And for it to happen is a pretty cool thing. You're such an iconic character in the world of wrestling. And it's such an interesting thing because at a time when there were, you know, and still are larger than life characters, you stand out among everybody else. And it's so interesting that your character, you know, while being a comedic character times, also had some really serious moments too. It took a while for me to talk. And that was like, but even without the talking, we still were able to pull off like the Vince's son stuff and the hospital stuff. and like when I was in the hospital and JBL still attacked me. And all of that, the JBL attacking me in the cage match.

It's just all that stuff without talking. And we still like were able to get emotion out of people. Thinking back on it is pretty, pretty incredible. So when you're growing up and you go, man, I want to be a pro wrestler. Who were you able to look at and go? Because they did it, that means I can do it. No one. You're now that.

person for so many people. You know what? I hate to think of myself as that because it's just a weird way to think. And it's just a weird, I don't know, I don't accept myself as that. But I mean, my favorite growing up, it's been told over and over again was Ultimate Warrior. And obviously, I don't have the same body type as the ultimate warrior. So I didn't really, but I was like, man, that's pretty awesome. And that's what I wanted to do.

And it was an instant thing. It's kind of a full circle moment. The biggest one is wrestling figures got me into pro wrestling. My brother always played with the original series of Hasbro's. Andre, Warrior, Hogan, Jake, Bossman. That's who he had. And then me being the little brother, I, of course, took those figures from him. and my parents that had to buy me separate ones as well.

I didn't know what these were. I just thought they were my brother's cool toys. And so he then showed me what they were from. And this is professional wrestling. And I was hooked, immediately hooked. And I've been hooked ever since. But at what point did you think like this is actually something I could do? From that day.

From that day, I was like, that's all I want to do. People want to be superheroes. People want to be firefighters. fighters or police officers or pro football players. I just wanted to be a pro wrestler. And it was like one of those things where my family was, okay, all right. It's not going to like, again, I don't have the body type of a pro wrestler. So it was kind of like just tongue in cheek.

Yeah, that's going to happen, Dylan. And then I found a training school around the area and started doing that after backyard wrestling. And then I started taking it a little more seriously, obviously. And they were supportive of it until I dropped out of college to do it. And that. But then they were still like, hey, just do, you know, whatever. He's still a young kid. Do your thing.

And then I made it to WWE. And it was one of those, oh, he accomplished this. That's incredible. And they were never, like, not supportive, but they were just... I shouldn't have made it. I say all the time I shouldn't have made it. I shouldn't have. I'm not the typical hire for WWE.

It was a specific role that they needed me for. That is crazy. And that it lasted for so long is nuts to me because it was, they told me it was, this could be six months when they first hired me. And it somehow lasted just under 10 years, which is, which is incredible. And thinking that is now,

seven years ago is even more nuts that I still like, man, it's just, it's crazy. The whole, I've been this year, August, I've been wrestling for 20 years. Wow. 20 years. That's all, that's, that's more than half of my life. Like, it's nuts. It's crazy. Do you remember the reaction when you walked into the wrestling school for the very first time?

Like, did anybody take you serious? Oh, there wasn't a school. we just trained before shows. We put up the ring and we trained before shows and for like two hours. And then we helped on the show. And that was it. There was no, I never went to a school.

Like, that's why I run my school, my school now for ACW Wisconsin in Oshkosh. And it's like, man, this is great. We get to train two, three times a week, every week and before shows. And like, essentially the ring is there whenever they want. Go do your thing. Get better. But we did an hour, maybe two hours before the monthly show. So it was once a month.

We trained. Once a month. Yeah, that was it. Literally, that was it. So, like, it's crazy to think how things happen. But it was kind of like when I walked in, Ken Anderson never treated me different. He never treated me like he had to be easy on. me and X I flat out told him. I said, I don't want to be trained as a midget wrestler.

We get the pass. I'm the one saying it. We're good. I don't want to be trained as that. I don't want to bite ass and do the ref spot and this. Needless to say, now 20, 23, Dylan is loving doing those things because it's way easier on my body. But it's, it's, he didn't. So he trained me like he trained everyone else. Bumping me around, slamming me around. And with. the issues with my back as a child, I didn't care about it. I had major back surgery when I was a child that the first surgery paralyzed me from the waist down for six months.

And then the second one, they fused my spine and said no trampolines and no contact sports. Obviously, I never listened to them. But it's one of those things where I just don't care. My body is my body. And it's, in 2003, when I started, all I cared about was doing all I could to be a pro wrestling. So you've got a great setup here. We've talked about the things behind you, but your mic set up, the headphones is because you're a fellow podcaster.

I am. I'm a fellow podcast. Let's put this all out there right now for anybody that's listening to this. You can listen to Dylan's podcast going postal, which is available everywhere and also subscribe on YouTube. Yeah. So about six months, I think I'm horrible with dates. About six months ago, the major brothers from the major wrestling figure podcast, Brian Myers and Matt Cardona, I will not refer to him as the number one indie wrestler in the world. I will never say that ever.

What about the Michael Jordan of figure collecting? Nope. You won't. Okay. I can't be nice to him. It makes each other sick if we're nice to each other. Brian, greatest human out there. Matt, he's out there.

But, so they approached me about doing a show for their Patreon. And George Feese, who is a friend of their podcast and also hosts a podcast of his own called Game Marks Pod. He was going to produce it for me and kind of steer me in the direction, which I need to be steered quite a bit. And then I was like, hey, I would love to get this to the masses. Doing it for the Patreon is great, but I want to expand this and make this as big as we can. So about a month ago, we decided, hey, we're going to take this public and the majors signed off on it. And they are, we're on their network, along with all of their other projects. And it's also available on my YouTube, YouTube.com slash Dylan Postal.

but it's like it's a fun look at my life, my career, and everything in between, as well as we switch kind of we're switching off. Like one week we'll do a just, hey, the topic at hand is this. Let's talk about it about my life or my career. And then every two weeks, we're only doing it every other week. There's so much content out there and so many podcasts and so much stuff. we wanted to give people a little bit of a break to listen to other things as well and then pop in for ours and then listen to others and then pop in for ours. So we're doing every other week.

And then, but we're switching between the normal sit down with me and talking about stuff in my career. And then the next one will be an interview. So the next episode is a sit down with Ethan Page, who has become just a friend of mine. And you've known him forever as well. and he's, it was such a fun, very, like, non-restling, non-sit-down wrestling interview. Yeah. And they're fun. And they're called small, I named them Small Talk, because they were supposed to be very quick conversations.

Like, I have them on my YouTube channel. I had Renee Paquette on and Nicole Cabana, Bill Beretta from the Muppets, and I had Weeman on, who was like a childhood hero of mine, obviously. and these are supposed to be quick conversations. Yeah. But they turn into lengthy interviews, and it's not the usual, where'd you get trained? How'd you get hired? Yeah.

How'd you think of this match? I wanted it to be different. So this one's like, with Ethan Page, it's just two buddies hanging out. Yeah. Talking a little bit about wrestling and then talking about video games and talking about Sega and how much, and toys, and just having fun. And that's what I wanted. and the stuff with Weeman when I interviewed him, his connection to this year's WrestleMania, which was absolutely incredible, the stuff that Johnny Knoxville and Sammy

Zane did last year at WrestleMania. So to hear about his involvement on that was pretty awesome. I saw Johnny Knoxville on Sunday at the Critics Choice Awards, and I said, you're the best match at WrestleMania. Ah, thanks, man. Yeah. It was incredible. It was.

I love celebrity matches. at WrestleMania or whenever because they're going to go one of two ways. They're going to be real good. Yeah. Or not quite good. Like, but last year, Logan Paul killed it. Crushed it. Bad, bad bunny has just been killing it.

Bad Bunny has set the bar now. That is the bar for celebrity matches. I think McAfee overtook him. I do. McAfee has just blown it out of the water. But Logan Paul did amazing. And then Knoxville, who, yes, he does these stunts and that, but that's different. It's very different.

Doing a stunt, then sitting and letting your buddies do another stunt. And then this was, it was so fun. And so if you watched that match and didn't have a smile on your face during it, there's something wrong with you. I completely agree. Yeah. I feel like you're someone whose music could hit at any point in time and it would be believable for you to be coming back. So like the Royal Rumble's just around the corner here. I feel like if your music hit, we'd go, of course, horn swoggles.

Ah, damn it, he took a number. And everyone's all mad because they have that number in their draft pool at home. And obviously, I'm not going to win. Stuff like that makes me feel good. When I did the greatest Royal Rumble, when I had involvement in the women's Royal Rumble a few years ago, all of that stuff kind of, it just makes me feel good. and it makes me feel like, oh,

they remember. And it's doing conventions and doing wrestling shows still and being as active as I still am. Yeah. It's just, it's fun that people remember and it's that they come up to me,

hey, remember when you did this? Yeah, or, hey, you remember when you did this? I didn't do that. And like this podcast, recording the podcast with George, going pastel, that I did that I have no recollection of me doing. And then they'll send me a picture and I go,

I did do that. That's right. I did. What's something that you didn't remember? Today, I just realized I wrestled John Heater from Napoleon Dynamite. And then I remember him kicking me in the throat in that match extremely hard. And then apologizing frantically after the match. So up until this day, I completely forgot.

That's unbelievable. I forgot that I fought Napoleon Dynamite with the generation. X, mind you. I teamed with the Generation X against Jericho, Big Show, and Napoleon Dynamite. I have no recollection of that until I got put in my mind today. That photo should be

hanging on your wall now. That's one that should be on the wall. Come on. It's one of those things where but it goes like, man, that stuff happens so fast. Like the, I think about the 30th anniversary of Raw

is next Monday. Yeah. I was in five segments at the 15th anniversary, like five full segments because it was during the Vince's son stuff. That night alone, I was the opening segment when they did the family photo shoot and the closing shot was me pouring beer on Vince. And so like that I remember, like that stuff I remember, but I don't like wrestling rung and sing or that kind of thing. I remember doing it, but I don't, I don't know when it was. Like my memory is just awful. It's just not there. And I wish I had Tyson kids' memory because he reminds me of things I did more than I remind myself.

You message me before this interview and you said like, please remind me the morning of. I'm not joking. I'm a terrible memory. I put some in my phone and I'll literally put a reminder. I've realized I'm a 36-year-old elderly man. I really am. I write notes in my kitchen to look at stuff that I've written for in my office. Oh, come on.

This is real life. I write no notifications on my phone every day for like a to-do list. Or, hey, this needs to get done. Or, hey, this email needs to be sent. Hey, you have to record today. You have to Twitch tonight. I twitch every Monday and every Wednesday. I should know this by now.

I still put it in my phone because I still need to go because otherwise I know it'll be nine, 10 o'clock at night. I'm getting ready for bed. Oh, I didn't Twitch. Oh, okay. It's just, man, I just, I've never, I've always had such a crap memory. That's just my life. And I realize it's just my life. My son, my son loves it because he just has a laugh.

He just has a laugh about it. And that's another thing that's like through the new podcast. he uh he's become a thing of his a character of his own Landon has become like this beloved human even like to the masses not just to people that know him know him he had we did an episode all and he co-hosted it was for the Patreon but we're gonna we're gonna make it public soon yeah and uh but he he co-hosted and just

not buried me but was like it was so fun how he just took off and took away the whole episode. He stole the show on the episode. And he's just, he's the best. And he, uh,

he's gaining a following of his own, which is incredible for a 13 year old kid. Hard to have. Yeah. At what age did he become taller than dad? Oh, man. Nine. I've literally looked at it.

And now he's taller than my dad. Oh, man. He is enormous. Enormous. I look at him and I go, I like, last year alone, and now he's at the point. Birthdays aren't just wrestling figures and Legos.

Birthdays are now Legos and wrestling figures and Jordans or and Nike's or like, shoot, he's in that stage. The problem is, last year, you went through three shoe sizes. So now it's like, oh, no, this is awful. I can't just trade these in. Yeah. But it's he he used, he saved his money for his first pair of Jordans and he got to be bought him on his own and he's off to it. Now he's off to the races because now my friends support it. People on Twitch support it.

Like, hey, what's the next pair? What's the next pair? What are you going to get next? And he's like, see? See, I got to get another pair. I can't just have this one for this outfit. No, I just, I've never been a shoe guy, but it's the thing nowadays. and I get it.

I get why it is. But for a 13-year-old, it blows my mind. Because I was into wrestling and video games at 13, and he is into shoes, wrestling and video games. That's a dangerous mix. It's a rabbit hole. It's a rabbit hole. I never thought we'd be going down.

You know, you mentioned Ethan Page, and you had what would have been the largest pop in the history of impact wrestling. It was during the pandemic, though, when you came out as the re-nominal Say-J-Stiles, is that what we were calling it?

A.J. Swagel. A.J. Swagel. Was that it? I think it was just AJ. I think it was renominal AJ Swaggle. Yep. When get ready to fly hit, I went, no way. So, and then they went,

no way. That's one of those things in recent memory that people talk about so much. and we talk about it on the interview coming up, actually. We go kind of in depth into it. And it was just, he was kind of on his way out of impact, and I was there for a few.

And so it was cool for both of us to kind of be able to do that because we're good friends and we're such good friends. And we're such good friends that during the match, I'm calling him Julian by his real name. And then we get to the back in Hawkins, Brian Myers goes, you realize you called him Julie? And I go, no.

Yep. And it stayed in the show, which is also mind-blowing. But it's just, man, the AJ Swaggle was such a fun thing that it just came kind of out of, because Scott D'Mor saw a side-by-side

of me and AJ Stiles. And he popped for it. So like, oh, we need Hugh to be A.J. Swagel, of course. okay sure and it was it was it still stays with me to this day which is great if there was a crowd there that would have been the loudest pop and impact because and then the loudest air wind out of the sales no it would have turned from a pop into like laughter but like yeah it's such an iconic theme song especially for impact like that's one of the most iconic theme songs in impact i didn't realize like what it what his song was until I heard it and I go oh yeah I know this song for sure of course

it's yes for for it's easily one of the most known if not the most known impact theme of all time that and I think Samoa Joe were like yeah yeah yeah you throw Jared in there I think jarrots is pretty up there too but yeah it's uh it's crazy how how much that's kind of stayed with me was there any talk of you going into the hall of fame with dx was it even a mention no and it's one of those things like i get it i do uh i was the mascot i was always known as the mascot um people didn't view me as such but i knew it and i i it's fine i'm i'm i never like to think about that because if it never were to happen, I can only be let down rather than if for a crazy reason it does happen, it's the coolest surprise ever. But I never, I never think about that. People ask me

all the time and all that they say it to me all the time, but it's like, I don't like thinking that way. And at this point now, it's like, it would just be cool for my son. Like, I have so much now where it's just like, I want to do fun things that I can bring him along to as well. Like, it's all I care about nowadays. And that's, hey, when can I get AIW booking in Cleveland so we can go to this Hall of Fame or we can go to the Pro Football Hall of Fame or the Rock Hall again and just get spaghetti pizza again. And just like fun things that he can do along with me that at this point of my career,

that's what I really enjoy is him coming along for the ride. But I feel like it's easy to make a case for Hornswago going at, into the Hall of Fame on your own. You said it. I can never, I literally, I can't bring myself to ever talk that way. I can't. I don't. Chris, I've never been one to believe in myself.

I've never been one to, oh, now more than ever. With the back surgery last year and the back surgery the year before, now more than ever. Never. I don't, I don't, self-confidence in when it comes to wrestling has, never been there ever um and i i don't i i see what i've done and i hear what i've done but i still don't view it as big deals i don't view as hey that was something big um i know again i know i like for people of my stature they didn't have lengthy careers in w e and i get that but that still doesn't hit me because I still go, oh, well, this guy had a longer one.

Oh, well, this guy had this. This guy had way more of an impact. So I just, I don't ever think that way. Are you comparing yourself to Randy Orton and Stoneclesfieldson? I mean, yeah, you're correct in saying that. I just, I don't know, man. I don't ever view myself like that. I don't ever view myself like, hey, it was, I've done a lot.

Because I, I don't know. But you were part of some of the biggest storylines. You were the payoff on some of the biggest stories. storylines of the ruthless aggression era. So like, that's crazy too, that that's still considered the ruthless aggression era? Like, what is the era now? What would we consider the current era? What is it called?

I mean, that's a great question because I think it went, it's been the PG era for a long time, right? But I was there. So ruthless aggression into the PG eras when you were there? So we go new generation to add to this up. But I would call the current generation. and I think this is a pretty new thing. I would call it the Triple H generation. Like when Vince was out.

We're naming it after a person? That's what we're doing? We can call it, we can give it a much better name, but there is definitely a very defining line that someone drew in the same. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When Vince retired and Triple H took over.

100%. 100%. I'm going to look up the actual. The HD era, because that's when it went HD. Like, but I don't, no, I don't, what would it be? I'm going to look right now.

Good thing we have the internet at, uh, at our disposal here. Oh, I don't. Okay. This is, oh, I don't even, where do we, uh, where do we actually? Okay, this is according to Wikipedia. Great. Trust that. Sure.

They said I was dead and they said I was dead ones and dating Stacey Keebler. Oh my God. And neither are, neither are true, I hope. I would go in every day and just make sure. that that changes. Like, yep, no, it's back again. Okay, this says ruthless aggression, 2002 to 2008.

2008. And then it's, oh, boy, we've got to scroll a lot here. Oh, so much happened. Then they call the PG era 08 to 2014. Okay. Then, boy, so much scrolling here. Then we've got the new era, which is 2016 to 2022. Okay.

And then the Vince McMahon retirement era is what they're calling this. 22 to present. So, you know, like I called it the Triple H era, but. Yeah, yeah. No, no, you're right. So what was the one? What was it called? The new era, the PG era?

PG era. Okay. I guess I wouldn't consider the ruthless aggression era to be that late. But yeah, yeah, I guess. man that's to be regression was basically after Austin and Rock had kind of gone you know gone

man there were some low years there for a bit too like but it's it's a yeah that's crazy to think and that's crazy that to be considered in that

which is mind blowing very very mind blowing was the lore of your character ever explained like was it ever explained why you lived under the ring? No. Who came up? So I think, like, I don't know.

I truly don't know because I know Finley had the idea for the character in WCW. And then it never happened. And then in WWE, it happened, obviously. And they tried out a few little people for the character, including Jesse. from Jesse as in Festus. And he's not a little person. He's just a little human, like a short human.

I would talk to Brad Williams on the show, and we were talking about how ridiculous the term little person is. I fucking hate it. Sorry, bleep that. I fucking hate it. I hate that. I hate dwarf.

That's why I say midget. Midget makes me money. There's no little person wrestling or dwarf wrestling. There's midget wrestling. That's how we know what I do. And that's truly how I feel. A little person sounds a lot more derogatory to me.

I think dwarf sounds real weird. Is that because of Snow White? Did they ruin it? Yeah. You view them as seven people with different colored hats and one's kind of off. Like, that's how you view it. Let's be honest here. We're not these myth.

Why aren't we called lepricons? If we're talking like these mythical creature, why, like, it's just stupid to me. I just, and I don't take myself seriously where that's why I think the term midget doesn't bother me. I've heard it all my life. My dad still won't say it. And I still like whenever I see it, I see a skin crawl. But it's like it's one of those things that I'm okay with it. It looks like I don't care, man.

Can't say midget any time. Whoa, he can. Kevin done on a headset, I was underneath the ring and I could always hear the conversations between everyone. everyone. The producers in the back, Kevin Dunn in the truck, Vince in the back. Whenever he had to say a specific direction, I was like, on this headset, I loved it. And I was like, oh, I get to hear a lot of things. So Kevin Dunn's like, Vince, we need to figure out how to get the midget back to the back. God damn it, Kevin. We don't use that word. He's a little person.

Oh, sorry. Sorry, Vince. Sorry. And it was like apology after apology and they apologized to me too. I don't care. What about calling you by your name? We've got to find out of a deal in. I don't think Kevin Dunn knew my name until probably like a year in. We're being honest with ourselves. Yeah.

But it was one of those things where he, Vince, never liked the name, or that word, ever liked the word. But as far as like living under the ring, I don't know. I don't know where that came from. It was just like I had this whole idea of when I got hired for this character. I was going to come down with Finley every week. And then it was just, nope, you're under the ring. And we will see you for eight seconds.

Perfect. Even better. Great. And on house shows, you're going to be snuck under the ring. And then we're going to see you for eight seconds. Perfect. Awesome. But it was, so like when I got to get a real entrance,

WrestleMania 24 was like the first time I got a real, real entrance when I came back for Finley and JBL. And so that was one of those things. I was like, oh, man, I get to actually see a crowd and come down a ramp for once. This is great. So it was cool. But yeah, I don't know. It started as a little bastard and then they quickly realized we can't put that.

That's mind blowing to me. I have three pieces of merch. I have a card that I got graded because it's the only card out there. It's in a program, and I think it's on a promo photo as Little Bastard. My, it's so crazy. Like, how they thought,

we're going to put this character that children may like and enjoy, and if we make toys out of him, or any merch, we're going to put Little Bastard on it. And then I think they, quickly realized that that's not going to work and that's not going to fly we can't put that at Toys or Russ and it was just like okay one day it's hornswoggle great done like did you just show up to work

one day and they were like you got a new name yeah it was at i think it was right before no way out that they were like yep you're getting a name it's horn swoggle and i go great sweet yeah so there's like there's like random autographs out there in programs as little bastard and it's uh it's like it's just weird to see so when i got that i found this card that's only, it was like a European card, trading card. It's like, yep, I need that. And I need to get it graded because it's the only one. I've seen two out there.

And any of the signings, has anyone asked you to sign Little Bastard? Oh, yeah, all the time. All the time. But it's like, I don't care. Sure. You're putting cash in my kids' bank account. I'll sign anything. The United States Soccer Federation present the U.S. Soccer Podcast.

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but we're just really excited just as the people are. The U.S. Soccer podcast, presented by Henko. Follow and listen on your favorite platform. You seem like you're the most agreeable wrestler. Like, I feel like any storyline could be pitched to you and you're like, sounds good. So it was kind of funny. Like, I always laughed during WW stuff at times because it was like, how are we going to get out of this one? Here comes Horstwagel.

We need someone to work with a guest host. Here's Horstwagel. It's like every, every, but the guest host stuff was so much fun. My bar downstairs in my basement, I built a bar and it's just signed stuff from the guest host era. like every week. I was just like, hey, what can I get Bob Barker to sign? Oh, happy Gilmore. There's a random thing.

Mike Tyson's going to sign the hangover. But just like fun stuff that I feel I would want. What did Betty White sign? Betty White signed a Golden Girls DVD set. So good. Of course. Of course. Floyd Mayweather gloves and Mike Tyson gloves down there.

Ozzy Osbourne. I have a vinyl from him. I got a vinyl from my dad too, which is like mind-blowing to my dad. It always was like, what are we going to go back on? Oh, horn swaddles here. Let's have him be the answer. Fine by me. Like, I don't care.

You're putting me on television, on worldwide television. How dumb of it. How dumb what I have been to be like, not going to work for me, boss. Nope, not going to work. May Young gave birth to me as the New Year's baby. I dressed as a cow. Like, shit I didn't want to necessarily do. But then I sit back and I go, I'm on worldwide television.

Yeah. Getting paid to do my dream job when I was four years old. Life could be a lot worse. Again, I don't take myself seriously. Although that's where an ego comes from. I don't, I just, it is what it is. I don't, I don't care enough about how I'm viewed. It doesn't matter to me.

when you were, you know, revealed as the raw anonymous raw general management. Oh, that was a fart in church. Or when you were, you know, revealed to be Vince's son, it kind of felt like that was their way of going, JK, we were just kidding. Like, we weren't even serious about this one. So the Vince is something definitely. I swear it was, it was Kim Kennedy. For sure.

Yeah. For sure. Ken has told me that many times. For sure. So it was that And then he got himself into some trouble And I was like Oh, I'm the son

And I still remember to this day being told And I did not believe it And it was I mean that's the craziest Vince's son era for me With the craziest time in my career Like just Twice a week working side by side with Vince

On bullshit like nuts nuts absolutely crazy. And then the raw GM thing, so Freddie Prince Jr. used to be a writer, as we know, and he hosted promo class with Vince. And I was like in the third group

of promo class, the third class. And I had this pitch to Vince that I would be like the general manager of Smackdown. I would take Teddy Long's job. And he had me do this promo on Big Show in the class. and I was like, oh, that was fun. And then there was the idea for the raw GM thing to be revealed.

And this was a couple months later. But then it was like, hey, you're going to be the GM. They called me on a Sunday. And they said, we need you to learn a New Jersey accent. And you're going to be Big Nick from New Jersey. And it goes down in history as the worst, like, not try out, but run through of a promo in history. Hawkins and Kofi were sitting in the stands, my two best friends,

and they were sitting in the stands watching me tried to do a New Jersey accent on the mic over and over and it just didn't work. And finally, Kevin Dunst says over the thing, yep, all right, we'll give it a break. And it all got thrown away. It was going to be a big heel turn for me. running the show and all that. And it just was like, oh, yeah, he's the GM. We're doing nothing with it.

I didn't realize there was more to this. Oh, there was, it was going to be this big, you needed a New Jersey accent. I don't know. I don't know why I needed a New Jersey accent, but I was going to be Big Nick from New Jersey. My wife is from Jersey. I could have her pop in here and judge your Jersey accent.

Nope, we're good. I will never do another New Jersey accent in my life again. that it like haunts me to this day. And Kofi does an accent of Dylan doing a New Jersey accent still to this day. And it makes like my blood boiled from how angry I get about that day. I was like, man, I tried it and I tried it and I tried it. I just couldn't do it. So it was like, yep, we're going to rewrite this and just have Santino and Jerry Lawler pull you from under the ring.

And that's it. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, that's a completely different storyline. Completely different. And then it went nowhere. There was nothing else to it then. Wow.

When you were doing the Vince, Vince's son's storyline, what was the first actual conversation you had with Vince? It was after I was actually, no, I was on headset. So it was in Green Bay. It was 3.30 in the afternoon. And Bruce Pritchard comes up to me and says, hey, you got a second? I said, sure. He goes, give me your phone.

I go, excuse me? Just give me your phone. Okay? I give him my phone. He goes, you're going to, you're the son. And I go, uh, what? He goes, you're the son. I go, okay.

He goes, so, because everyone was doing rehearsal around the ring for that segment, for the final segment of Raw, where they're going through the roster and kind of kicking everyone out of the ring and all that. And it gets down to Hunter and Sandman. And they had to, that's the best part is Sandman. man's like one of the last one's in the ring and they had to like find a way to get him out of there on the show and then they there's a moment from that that goes viral all the time where Vince is like if you're not Caucasian leave the rug yeah yes yeah oh so many of those things just get

swept under the rug and like like forgotten about obviously um but then as everyone was leaving rehearsal was done and Bruce goes, okay, I need to know where your bag is in the locker room. I go, why? He goes, because you're going under the ring right now until, and I was like, it's 3.30. Nobody knew. No.

Literally, I get under there and Kevin Dunn gets on headset with me, and he goes, hey, Vince will talk to you about what you're going to do. Vince went over it on headset, the whole segment. And Vince said, please stay off headset, until we ask for you again. Because they didn't want any producers, nothing to know, or no one to hear me over the headset talking. I was like, so I'm changing underneath the ring

and I had my cruiserweight title in my bag. And I go, do I come out with it? Oh, no. What do I do? What do I do? Oh, no. And I'm like freaking out. Yeah.

And I go, Kevin? Kevin Dunn? Kevin? God damn it. we told you to be quiet. What's up? And I go, uh,

I just need to know if I'm supposed to bring my cruiserweight title out. Vince, God damn it. That's a great question. I was like, I fucking won. Yeah,

thanks, dad. Yeah. And it was like, he goes, yeah, for sure, because we have one of the things is holding gold.

And I was like, oh, why didn't I think of that? I almost got in trouble the first day, done. And it was like, man,

So before the show, before I went under the ring, I asked Bruce, hey, can I call, can I call one person and get them tickets for tonight? And he goes, yep, I said, you can literally stand right here? So I called my dad and I said, hey, can you and grandpa come to the show tonight? I cannot tell you why. Just please come tonight. He goes, yep, we'll be there. Oh, wow. And I was like, they got them front row tickets.

And my grandpa and my dad, my two biggest supporters were front row. for easily the biggest night of my life. Wow, your dad is front row for you to meet your real dad. After that, a bunch of his buddies texted him, like, huh, something you need to tell us? Was there more payoff for that storyline, like the GM? No, it was kind of like, I didn't know where it was going. Like, then I hear later through something to wrestle, it was supposed to be very, Vince and Finley at Mania that year.

And Vince was like, I'm not feeling that anymore. And went with Bradshaw and Finley. But can you imagine if it would have been Finley and Vince at Mania? Like, that storyline would have been even bigger, like even more television time on every show. So, man, I just, I think about it. And like I said, it was the 15th anniversary or all, like five segments for me, like just. for me. And then the cage match with Vince.

And I'm one of like, there aren't many people that have pinned Vince and I'm one of them, which is bonkers. Like, it's crazy to me. No. We don't talk about that. We don't say that in my presence. It's like Bruno, like the Disney movie, you know? We don't

talk about it. Your career's been amazing. It has. It really, really has. It really has. Yeah. I was, when I When I had Brad Williams on the show, he was talking about like, oh, have you had Swagel on the show? I'm like, of course I've had Swagel on the show. And I'm like, you know Swaggers?

It's like, we all know each other. Yeah. It's funny. So it's funny because that's a real thing. Like literally, I just messaged him on Twitter one time because he put a tweet out there. Like, I'm sick of being called you or like me. He was sick of being called Hornswoggle. And I said, that's funny because I get Wee Man or Peter Dinklage all the time.

Have you met Dinklage? Fuck Peter Dinklage. Oh. Fuck Peter. He came out about the Disney Snow White thing about how, you know, we need to, they shouldn't be dwarves. And fuck Peter Dinklage, piece of shit. I just irritate. I went on a whole thing about that.

I know. I didn't realize it was this serious, though. It is, man. You're trying to take roles away from people, from people like me that don't get movie roles. I would kill for a role like that. And you're trying to take it away. Come on now. But Brad Williams has been nothing but awesome.

Like, he's incredible and he's so funny and so relatable for me. And that I was such a fan of him. And then he came to the comedy club around me and I went to see him. And it was so fun and so funny. And like, his jokes just hit different for me, obviously. Because it was like, oh, that happens to me all the time. Oh, that happens. happens to me. Yeah. Oh, this is me. And it's just, we've, we've developed a very, very awesome

friendship literally through social media. And that's the power of social media, which also is crazy to me. What do you think is the biggest thing from his act that you go? Thank you. I'm so glad someone's talking about this. I think the one that stands out is when he goes, you can never be upset when a midget walks into a room. It's just like, it's never like, oh, midgett's here. It's on, oh, oh, look at them. There's one of them. And now, but, like, I even have that same reaction because, believe it or not, in Ashkosh, Wisconsin, there aren't a lot of people like me.

So when I see one at Target, I go, someone like me and I always want to do like the doink spot with them. And I just walk up to him and it just kind of freaks them out. But it's, it's one of those things where Landon, I remember the first time Landon saw another little person. he was like it just looked like what is what is that

like what it's kind of like you but I've never seen another person like you dad and he goes it's a guy like you and I go oh like a Caucasian man you know I mean like you oh a little person

he goes yeah we saw another one and I was but like again I guess I didn't he was so young. I guess I didn't realize he just views me

as just dad not as dad that's little because he was I mean he's five years old and pretty much looking me in the eye at that point already but it's it's one of those things where it's just it's it's crazy to see life through his eyes about

me and man uh like it's never been dad's little. It's always just been huh that's just how he is. Which is It's kind of cool, too, and it's so respectful or respectable. The interesting thing about when you're growing up in the house that you grew up in is you think that every other house functions the way that your house functions. That everybody, you know, eats dinner at this time.

Mom and Dad look like this or Mom and Mom or Dad and Dad, whatever it happens to be. You just assume, like, this is life. This is normal. Every dad goes in the ring in tight pants and gets thrown around by other men in tight pants. That's just, it's just life. Right. It's just normal life to every kid in Ashgosh, Wisconsin. There's a specific spot I want to ask you about with Ken Kennedy. WrestleMania 23. It gives you the Green Bay plunge off the ladder.

So painful for both of you. It was, it was special to me because, again, Ken trained me. He got me my job in WWE. He put his name out there for me. And so to be able to like have a spot with him. It was originally supposed to be a power bomb. the ladder, like me up like four or five rungs, and he was just going to power bomb me off of it. And I kept looking backwards, and I was like, man, I'm going to get hurt.

So everyone's kind of going over the match. This was a every WrestleMania back then, they had like a convention room that they would put a couple of rings in so guys could go over their matches for mania and kind of go through them the whole week prior. So we had our meeting and everyone else is sitting down in these chairs kind of talking over the rest of the match. and at one point, I just hear, Ken and I are on the ladders, and I have a idea for him to do it. And I see, I feel it, he picks me up, and all I feel are eyes on us and fit,

going, this is going to be good. And then we have the crash pad there, and he goes, you want to do it? I said, let's just do it. And he does it in the practice ring. And we do it, and I'm safe. And Finley goes, yep, that's the spot. Let's do that.

And I was awesome, even better. And it's one of the most, like, it looks disgusting in that match. And I've realized why, because we're not, it felt like we were so much higher than we really are. We're only like four or five rungs up. But it felt like so much of the top rope, right? Yeah. Yeah. So it's not that high.

But because I'm so small and he's not small, it looks like he just destroys me. So it's the spot that it's probably the most talked about spot in my career for sure. I also can't think of him doing that. Like he's just diving onto his head with a human on his back. But he would do that off the middle rope. So it wasn't that much higher. Sure. Yeah.

But still, he, he like, I had trust in him to not hurt me. And it was, it's funny on the, if you watch it back, if you watch the match back, you can see he gives it to me and then he checks on me and during the match, he goes, you're okay?

I said, yeah, buddy, I'm good. And then I go right back to selling and I'm just like laughing at that point because I was just like, man, I just did this in front of 70,000 people with the guy that trained me in a WrestleMania that I should never have been at. Like, I was never at a WrestleMania period,

much less in the ring at one. I think you need to start changing your thinking around all this. You have earned all of this. I know. I earned it all. But it's, yeah, but I don't, I don't believe that way because it was right place at the right time, man. That's life, right? 100%.

A hundred percent. But I didn't go through developmental. I didn't go through OVW at the time or FCW at the time or Deep Self at the time. I didn't do that. I literally got hired off the same. street for a role that it could have went to anyone. So that's why I just have, man, everything nine times out of ten, if it happened to my career, to me, it was right place, right time. And you're right. That's life. But I just, I don't think of it as earning. I don't know.

I can't. I can't. I can't. Like you have the right attitude. Like, I was saying before, like I feel like you never said no to any pitch. You're just like, yeah, Sounds great. I'm in. If it's not going to hurt me, I don't care. I truly don't care. I'll do whatever, man. It's, it's, again, it's on the biggest stage that anyone could ask for. I would be dumb, I would be dumb to say no.

What's the wildest thing that's happened underneath the ring? I fell asleep. I talk about it in my book. Life is short and so am I. I fell asleep overseas. There was a six-man test. match. It was Finley, Big Daddy V, and Kali against Undertaker, Kane, and Batista. So a very heavy match going on above me. It was an overseas tour, international tour. It was very sleepy.

It was very tired. Just tired from the night before. I didn't get a lot of sleep the night before. But to bed late. That's what I'm going with. I was not over-served. and they put me under the ring at intermission. And so I was like, okay, whatever. And I just fell asleep. And I woke up to Finley opening the curtain and yelling at me. Hey, hey. And then he finally goes like, I'm not waking up.

And he sees me face down. He thought one of the ring things knocked me out. So he goes, what? And I go, hey man. He goes. come on and I go oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit because I knew I had a spot with Undertaker who was waiting above me yeah he rolls me in and taker's laying down and we'd always did this thing where taker would be laying down I'd walk up to him and he'd sit up scare the

shit out of me and like either just goozle me or choke slam me off his knee something but now he throws fit throws me and I go the whole time walking up to Undertaker going I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry we get the spot, we get to the back. He goes, where were you? I said, I was sleeping. He goes, where were you? I said, I was sleeping. He goes, holy shit. And he just walks off

and I go, I'm dead, I'm dead, I'm done. This is it. It's been a good run. It's been a good two years at that point. Did a lot of fun things, but I'm done. And he just couldn't believe it. And so I graced him with a bottle of brown liquid. as an apology gift.

And we sat on the bus that night and indulged in that and played cards. And he was just like, he goes, I can't believe that you fell asleep with that much weight going on above you. Like, I just, the ring wasn't loud to me after a while. It just probably why I need,

probably why I need my hearing aid at the time nowadays. But it's just, it's, it was just normal. Like I would sleep. I'm out there. The opening pyro for the shows would wake me up. I could hear what was going on in the matches above me

just by the bumps and the crowd reactions and that. Tony Chimmel, he would be ringside, and I would mess with him because I could see out through the curtain, through the ring skirt, but he couldn't see me. So Boogieman would come out and I'd be under the ring and I'd just start shooting worms at Chimel from under the ring. Or I would take his bell.

hammer, the lights would go out and I would scoot out and I would take his bell hammer and I would scoot back in or I would tie his microphone around the chair. When it was when it went black, I would mess with him so much from under there. It was just, it was such a way to pass the time. Him and I became so close and still to this day, he's such a good friend of mine and he's, he did so much during his time there that people don't realize. It wasn't just ring announcing. it was he was in charge of the ring set up and the staging setup and all that for years he did gear

he brought the jackets in his first kind of run there just he's the best chimmel is will go down to me as like one of the top unsung heroes yeah and it's like just so unceremoniously like you know yeah right thanks thanks for everything see you later yeah it's a bumy to me yeah what was the main way that they got you down to the ring? If the arena couldn't go black, I would go out before the show. Like, on a house show, I would go out before the show.

Otherwise, we literally would just take a drape and put that over me and a bunch of the local crew would circle me. And then we just, the arena would go black. There would be a video on the screen, so everyone's watching the video. And all these crew from the back, they're going and messing with the ring. And I'd be in the center of them and I'd scoot under.

Then we came out with the fat with a option of one of the road cases. They would just put me in a road case, slide it down, turn it on its side. I'd scoot out. They'd roll it back. It was just, that was my, that was my favorite because at least I didn't have to, like, worry about people seeing me at all. Yeah. Because the people in the entrance.

But that's how they do for Undertaker. they put them in hoodie and black pants and people around them and they just scoot it scoot them down in the black in the dark. So it was like, but it was always cool except those really long entrances at times where it would be like, oh no, oh, that's a really far ways. But like the women's Royal Rumble that I was a part of, it was in the baseball stadium.

Yeah. So they had to golf cart me to like around the stadium to the ring all in the dark. and then me scoot from the barrier underneath the ring in the dark. And it was like, but it was so cool. I was like, man, this is like what Justin Bieber does when he has to scoot and like get hidden on stage. I'm essentially Justin Bieber. Basically. Yeah.

You guys are like twins. What's the main thing that you do to keep yourself preoccupied under there? I would bring a PSP when that was a thing. That or I would just, like I said, I would just sleep. I can, man. I could fall the opening on house shows

the opening pyro or the opening announcements nine times out of ten would always it would always wake me up or that first bump in the match but then on TV days or pay-per-views there was always a monitor and a headset so I'd watch a show from under the ring which is and hear everything like opinions

and the next step and what the director's saying and all that that was that was a cool way to hear kind of the business side of it. The stories you have are just amazing. This is why your podcast is going to be so good. It's going to be so much fun, guys.

It's going to be wrestling. It's going to be my life. It's going to be collecting. It's going to be interviews with my friends and people I look up to everyone. It's just going to be a really, really fun time. And I'm really, really excited. Available now all over whatever podcast platform you use, it's available right now.

as well as all the video versions are available on my YouTube page, YouTube.com slash Dylan Postal, as well as video diaries. Ethan Page has been doing these video diaries for a while. He's been on my butt for years to start doing it myself. And I was like, nope, I'm not doing it. I have so much fun doing it now. It's such a blast.

And it's also like, I feel it's a cool perspective, literally visually, because everything is shot up. So it's literally looking up the whole time. And it's just a fun way to see life through my eyes, I guess. And I got the, he was so good about it. Ethan was so good about it. And he always said, he goes, this is something that my kids can go. That's why dad was gone.

That's what he was doing. And kind of to look back on it, that's, man, like I said, I always have my kid in mind now. I always have him like, oh, what can I do to make him? him laugh or hey what can i do for a memory for him it's just about making memories nowadays well wherever people are listening to this or watching this they can find you impostal this has been so great and look i end every conversation talking about gratitude because it's such a big part of my life yeah so dylan what are three things in your life that you're grateful for as we sit here right now my dad uh he is my absolute hero um you're real dad yes yeah not the one that retired and maybe coming back or not

Finley, who was then revealed. That's another thing. Can we stop saying that Vince was my dad? He wasn't my dad. He was just an asshole that wanted to portray and give me a good life. So really, he was trying to do what was best for me because Finley didn't want me as a son, which is even more messed up, and we need to dig even more into, hire me back just for that. Let's go back to little people's court.

Why didn't Finley want me as the dad? Why did Vince want me as a son? I think there's something there that we need to get the scoop on. But gratitude-wise, my real dad, he has taught me everything I know in life about being a dad, about being frugal and smart with my money as an adult. Because when you get hired at 1920 to a job where you're making more than you ever thought you would make in any job, you spend it like an asshole at times. And so now he had the sit down with me a few years ago and hey, it's ain't going to last forever.

And I had my kid on the way and it was a talk I needed. But he's always been a hero of mine. Grateful for my town. That's a very random thing. Ashkosh, Wisconsin keeps me grounded. I never found all of my travels. I never found a place I'd want to live more than Ashkosh. And this is just, it's a small town, and I love it here.

Hawkins calls me the mayor of Ashkosh because it's such a small town. But I love it, man. I can't do big cities. They're just not for me. And the third thing would be for my son. I mentioned him a lot, especially lately, but he's just the best. The funny bonding things that we do, and we literally can look at each other and just pop ourselves over reactions.

The other day, I just posted on Twitter. He was, my newest thing is yelling to an Alexa, and we don't own an Alexa, but he was cold the other night. So I said, Alexa, turn the heat up. Because, Dad, this isn't working. I said, Alexa, turn the goddamn heat up. Because, Dad, when is this going to stop? When is this going to stop?

And he's saying this while in bed, because he knows that I'm doing this just to pop myself. And I found out in parenting, the number one thing to do. do is just make yourself laugh because no matter how old your kid gets, at least you'll be laughing at your jokes. So it's just, it's funny things like that. And like last year, taking him to his first concert, taking him to Machine Gun Kelly and was awesome. And just being able to experience live entertainment. I sat back last year and I go, if there's something like live entertainment wise or something activity wise that he wouldn't enjoy, I can take him. I can take that day off from a booking because that's where the memory is.

I'm making, I'm not making a memory with him going to Horse Cave, Kentucky. I'm making a memory, taking him to Michigan, Kelly, or to this Hall of Fame, or to this,

or seeing his basketball game, or his football game, or helping coach baseball when I know nothing about baseball, besides, hey, just run, and here's the lineup. Like,

it's just fun things like that. That's, uh, I, I say lately, man, I am so lucky to have, everything I do work for the most part.

And people enjoy the content I'm putting out there and see and hear that they're enjoying it really, really makes me feel good because I care about every project I do so much. This was so great. I'm so glad we reconnected, man. Hell yeah, man. Perfect. Thanks for coming on the show. Yeah.

Thank you. Thank you. Guys, check it out. YouTube.com slash Dylan Postal going postal in podcast. and keep supporting Chris Van Vleet. Yes, thank you. No, for real, he took a lot of chances on himself and on wrestling and wrestlers. And he did that because he loves everything about it.

And it makes me happy to now see him on a really cool set with graphics and expensive-ass monitors and that because he's doing it. And it makes me so happy to see that. Thanks, man. That's very kind of. I appreciate it. There he is. The future Hall of Famer. I mean, I'm actually serious here.

You could make a really strong case for Dylan going into the WWE Hall of Fame. I'd love to hear what you think about this. But he was part of some of the biggest storylines during the ruthless aggression and PG eras. Vince McMahon's son, anonymous raw general manager, W. WeLC. He was a cruiserweight champion. a member of DX. I'm just saying.

I'm just saying. Big thank you to Dylan for joining us here. Big thank you to you, of course, for being on this journey with us each and every episode. And now that this episode is almost done, go give his podcast a listen. It's called Going Postal. You can hear it wherever you're listening to this right now.

And snap a screenshot. Let us know what you thought of this episode and tag us so we can reshare it. He is at Dylan Postel. I'm at Chris Van Fleet. And Mel Robbins said it best. I get asked about this all the time. She said it best.

Start before you're ready. Don't prepare. Begin. Be great. Be grateful. We will see you on the next one for some more insight. Jim Rome takes on sports. Why?

Because I have a job to do. With rapid fire takes. So I don't want to hear from you lava pigs on this notion today. No idea what you're talking about. You're complaining more than you like to breathe air. It's like you get up in the morning only to complain and cry and moan on social media about things that you don't even understand. He's the spitfire of sports smack. Take advantage of it. Get up in here.

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