Insight with Chris Van Vliet - Smokin' Joe Frazier's Son Derek Frazier On Learning From A Legend And What Big Brother 23 Taught Him

Episode Date: April 12, 2022

Derek Frazier (@thederekfrazier) is a television personality known for appearing on Big Brother 23 where he was the runner up. He is also the son of legendary boxer "Smokin' Joe" Frazier. He joins Chris Van Vliet to talk about the lessons he learned growing up as the son of a legend, his match with Muhammad Ali, what he learned from being on Big Brother, what's next for him, the time he boxed against his dad, who he would want to face in a celebrity boxing match and much more! For more information about Chris and INSIGHT go to: https://chrisvanvliet.com If you enjoyed this episode, could I ask you to please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcast/iTunes? It takes less than a minute and makes a huge difference in helping to spread the word about the show and also to convince some hard-to-get guests.  Follow CVV on social media: Instagram: instagram.com/ChrisVanVliet Twitter: twitter.com/ChrisVanVliet Facebook: facebook.com/ChrisVanVliet YouTube: youtube.com/ChrisVanVliet CVV CLIPS: youtube.com/CVVCLIPS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

All systems are going. Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Van Blurley. Well, how are we doing, my friends? Welcome back to another audio adventure here on Insight. I'm CVV, Chris VanV. Thank you so much for being with us on this. A great conversation today. If you watch Big Brother, you know exactly who Derek Frazier is.

Better known as Big D, he was the runner-up on season 23 of the show. He's wildly charismatic. He's hilarious. Such a great guy. Oh, and oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Also, the youngest son of legendary boxer Smoking Joe Frazier. Give him a follow on Instagram if you don't already follow him. He's at the Derek Frazier. You can find me if you're looking for me at Chris Van Fleet. And if it's your first time here, first of all, welcome. If you enjoy this episode, please consider clicking subscribe or follow wherever you're listening to you right now.

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Big D. Hey, how are you? That is such a great nickname. You know what? It's funny because I used to, it was, Big D was a name that I used to have when I was like younger. And it was like a part of my AOL screen name, which is, Oh my gosh.

If you're ready to hear it, it was Big D, A.K.A. Scorpio 17 at Hotmail.com. That is long. It's a long and it was a mess. So when I got into the Big Brother, house and I was like, oh, there's another Derek. I don't know what to do. I'm like, oh, I guess you guys can call me Big D.

And I didn't think it was going to like be like an everyday thing. And it turned into something way more. I feel like there's more people that know you as Big D than know you as Derek. Yes, yes, yes, that is true. And I, I kind of, I love it. My friends are like, we are never going to call you that. But that's how I kind of separate. my friends and then the fans because the fans only know me as big D.

They don't know who Derek F is or who Derek is. So I'm just like, okay, big D, that's who I am. When you have a last name that's as famous as yours, how do you step out of that shadow and become your own man? So being smoking Joe Frazier's son and being the youngest and the baby and the last of the legacy, it is a lot of pressure. But growing up, I remember that I'm more. want to make a name for myself. My dad always knew I like entertaining. I get my sense of humor from

him. I get my loudness from my mother. And when you put that together, you're going to have a good time, put it like that. But, you know, I remember being like, dad, I really want to be on TV. And he would try to find ways for me to do like commercials or, you know, ways for me to like kind of learn the business. And I used to follow him in his footsteps. But once I got older, I was like, I have to be on TV. So I did casting call one time. I did MTV made. A lot of people don't know.

Most embarrassing thing. I don't been like talking about. What did you get made into? Try to take a guess. Oh, a boxer? Yes. So I got made into a boxer. And it was just, I mean, I looked a hot-ass mess.

I'm going to tell you just now. I had like these dry, dusty, jury curls. I had a tongue ring at the time. I was a mess. 19-year-old mess. But I did that because it was my way of kind of branching out a little bit, but we're talking about MTV made here. It wasn't as like big as it was going to be.

And I remember years past after I did that and I was like, I got to find my niche. And after my father passed away, I was like, I got to find a way to make a name for myself. So I've been literally from the ground up trying to work. And then lo and behold, after I lost my job, I put in this random casting tape and I was like, okay,

well, I'm going to try out for Big Brother. Now, I have tried out for Amazing Race with my best friend and I, that's still on my bucket list of dreams. But I was like, let me try out for Big Brother. And then randomly I got the call and lo and behold, there's Big D for you on your screen and a star just happened overnight. So how much has changed or how much instantly changed for you

when you got a Big Brother? Oh, my goodness. Of course, when you're on Big Brother, you don't know what's happening at home. Yeah, you're kind of in like a vacuum. Like, you don't have access to your phone, right? Nothing. Not phone, not, you know, talking to your family, you know, music, anything you need. Like outlets that you're used to, you don't have it anymore.

Yeah. So being at home, I mean, being in the Big Brother House, I remember being like, okay, I don't know what's happening at home. All I could do is play this game. talk to these cameras, lie, manipulate, and get my way to the end some type of way and work with people and just pray that everything at home is like still the same.

Nothing has changed. But when I came home, I realized, whoa, this is a lot. Like, there's people that are yelling at you, Big D, oh my God, I love you. And then you got people, Big D, fuck you. I hate you. You know, like, you got people all over.

But it was definitely a quick change But I think being Smokin Joe Fraser's son, and I think understanding how to deal with people and being in that Lyme life taught me how to hold myself as a man or hold myself, you know, to a high standard and knowing how to be presentable and how to approach people and how to deal with good people, bad people, everything. So I'm very happy that I had the father that I had. And also my mother, my mother's taught me so much. but having those parents that I had in my life and especially my father definitely taught me how to deal with this lime life and also how to how to host how to entertain you know being on Big Brother taught me all that what was the biggest thing you missed about being unplugged at the Big Brother house oh okay um I would say music you know just like when you leave that house, you don't realize how many things that you sit there and go, whoa, I miss that. Like when you leave the house and you have these things back, like your phone, your music,

your people, like me and you, like being able to interact is amazing because when you're in environment, looking at the same people constantly and talking about the same things and trying to entertain, it is very draining. There's so many times that I'm like people, like the house guests always said they were like, Big D, thank God for Big D, because he entertained us every day. I was like a TV, okay? What you're going to get today? Which I want, soaps, drama, action, comedy, what you want for me today?

That's how I was all the time. But that was also a part of my gameplay. You know, social was my big gameplay, which allowed people to not, number one, look at me as a threat, but also why would you want to get rid of me? And it's crazy of how many times that I should have been sitting on that block and I should have been sent home where no one ever did because they were just thinking about each other. And this cast was so super, super competitive that they never realized that a social game can also be competitive too. I imagine when you're on the game, you don't realize that there's some people watching that maybe aren't fans of you. And then you get home and you're like, oh, wait. I thought everybody liked me.

I really thought that I was doing so well, but I think because I'm from Philly, I'm so blunt, and I'm such the type of person that just speaks my mind. And I have no filter. I'm also a black man, a gay black man at that. So it's like we just say whatever,

especially in the gay community, that when I got home, I remember being like, my roommates were kind of like, okay, we're going to talk to you on FaceTime, but we're going to wait until you get home, because there's a lot we want to do. tell you. And some of the things

that you would say as jokes or because people don't know you and they only know you do a TV screen, they automatically take that, run with it and then you're like the worst person ever. And it was kind of shell-shocked to some of the things that people were upset

about, some of the things that people were asking me to apologize about. There was I just, I never expected. And I think because the camera's on 24 hours, seven days a week, I mean, baby, they're seeing me at my worst. I'm like, shaving my head.

Someone's watching me. Changing my underwear. Someone's watching me. You know, there's so many times that you're literally, people are watching you all the time and listening to every little thing, even if you're joking or you're angry or you're mad or sad. And it's crazy how when you come home, you go, wow. Like, I didn't think that anyone would be offended by what I said.

I was only joking or, you know, people feel like a certain way because they're watching. from the outside, but they don't see everything, even though they're like, oh, the cameras are on all the time. Yeah. They're not always on all the time. So it was definitely an adjustment, I would say, but it was definitely adjustment that I was happy that I had my friends because I have roommates that were able to help me to adjust. And then on top of that, I was happy that I had just the town of Philly. And there's good fans out there. There's good and bad fans.

but the bad does outweigh the good. But when you find that those good people and those good fans, those are the people that you sit there and you go, okay, you know who Big D is. Let me give you my love. These are your people. These are my people. And I talk to everybody like if they're my friends.

I don't talk to people like you're a fan. I give people the time or day. I don't care if the whole, if there's 50 people, I try my best to make sure I give each and every single person love and care and conversation because my father, taught me that as a young man. He always taught me, I don't care if you're the bum on the street or I don't care of your Bill Gates. No matter what, everybody is a human and everyone's a person and we're all

the same, you have to treat people with love and respect and give them that attention. And that's what taught me how to hold myself like that. So give us some insight here. Let's say I was about to go in the next season, a big brother. Okay. What are like three things that I should keep in mind? It might be ridiculous things like, here's how you change your underwear so the cameras don't catch it. Okay, so, all right. So my first thing would be make sure you have plenty of outfits, okay? Make sure you have, but not outfits for, for eliminations or, you know, eviction nights. Make sure you have outfits just to be able to sit around in the house.

You know, those are things because you never realize how many times that you sit back and you go, damn, I wish I didn't wear that shirt every other day. You know, there's so many little things that you go, damn, I, hate that I had that on. And once you've worn a shirt, you don't want to wear it again, probably. But probably, I mean, like, I'm a black type of person, which the producers were just so tired of me wearing black all the time. But I was like, baby, I'm going to try to look as skinny as possible on TV.

I'm black, okay? So I had black cutoff, black t-shirt, black tank top, you know. I would say, just be prepared, a lot of clothes. also just remember that things that you would say with your friends and people at home people that are watching might not understand

so you have to remember be yourself but remember like a joke that might be a dark joke to you and your friends and maybe the person you're talking to in the Big Brother House might be a million people on the side

they're like, this is not funny to me. I don't find this funny. And the other thing I would say take with you is make sure you're ready to have fun. You know, going this, knowing that, yes, there's money on the line, but remember to have fun and leave your mark so people remember you. And I think that I did that. Even if it's good or bad, I made sure to leave my mark. So when people do see me, they know who I am. I'm still shocked when I go places.

and I can go out with a whole Big Brother cast. And there's times that fans don't even see them. They only see Big Day. That's all they say. So just remember to leave your mark and be yourself. So those are three things I would say take with you. Yeah. Speaking of that, like you getting recognized,

do you remember the first time you were with your dad and he was recognized? Wow, that is a great question. Okay. Chris, I would say the first time that I remember getting recognized with my dad was probably all my way to school. Okay. You know, as a parent, your parents, no matter if you're famous or not, they still are parents. They do every normal thing that other parents do. So my dad took me to school one day, and I remember being like 30 minutes late because we got stopped at the gas station.

by all these people. And I was like, what are we doing? Is everything okay? You know, I'm a little boy. I don't know what's going on. And I remember him being like, you know, hey, your father's famous.

You might not understand now, but I'm very famous. And as growing up, my dad used to like watch the fights with me. There was times that he like had old VHS tapes that he had like that no one else has that would like show me the behind this. scenes of like him and Ali like before the fights and he used to break things down and say like

this was going on this was going through my head and I never understood it and then of course me being a video game type of kid you know there used to be knockout kings I know that might be a little bit too old for some people but there was knockout kings that came out on like PlayStation and Xbox and when they when they first came out and I remember playing as him and being like I can't believe my dad's in a video game like what and I will play asked him. And I remember it was a time that Ali actually the computer, Ali beat me and my dad was past.

Like he just cursed me out. But just, I just remember just a swarm of people and my dad explaining how famous he was. And he told me as I get older and as I'm around him, I'll understand it more. And then once like, my friends

parents would freak out when they saw him. And I'm like, what's going on? And as I learned as I got older, it was just a beautiful thing just to understand why he's such a household name and why he's a legend. And I remember just, I always wanted to make him proud. I always wanted to be like, hey, I want to keep my father's legacy alive, but I also want to make a name for myself and continue that. Did you ever think about that being in boxing, making a name for yourself

in boxing? I, there was a point I was going to do it, but my dad was like, no. He did not allow me to do it. My dad wanted me to focus on going to school. He wanted me to focus on life. He didn't, because he's saying, as he told me, being a boxer, you have to dedicate everything to boxing. That means like, for example, there's no party life. There's no social life. There's no, like, you can't work a nine to five that you literally eat, breathe, sleep boxing every day. That means meditation. That means running. That means his. going to the gym, ice bag, like just so much,

watching videos, learning your opponents. You know, he told me there was so much that goes into it. And that lifestyle, you know, you can get hurt.

And my dad, being who he is, and he's so overprotective and he loved me so much, he was like, I'm not letting you do it. Because, you know, as a young boy,

I used to do a couple amateur boxing matches when I was young. And then, you know, being in the gym, of course, you learned how to fight. I used to, the train and work out and learn from everybody and learn from him.

And I remember him just being like, I can't have you in this lifestyle. But, you know, at that time when, as I told you, when I did MTV made, I was kind of like, I want to do it. I want to do it. And I did a little amateur boxing match and it went well. But it's not like I didn't know what I was doing. It was just I needed a lot of work because I was a big dude. So I was like, I need a lot of work.

But it's something where, of course, I'm 30 years old. way too old now. There's no way I can just get into it now. But, I mean, at any moment, if somebody wants to call me out and if I feel like they're worth my time because I am a legend son, I'll give it to them. I don't see why not.

Yeah. I mean, now is the perfect time for you to have a celebrity boxing match, which is all the rage right now. I think so. I wouldn't mind doing it. You know, right now I'm training in CrossFit every day. And I do have, you know, it sucks. Because I said this other day, I'm like, damn, I had my dad. That's gym in Philadelphia, literally right around the corner from me, but it's not a fucking gym.

And I'm just like, damn, like that would be, I would love to have that now. It's just those little things that you kind of wish that you would appreciate when you were young. I'm like, I remember like working out there and going there, but now that I'm like 30 and I love working out. I'm like, damn, I wish I had that. So, you know, I have a couple friends in the boxing industry that have gyms in Philadelphia, which if I took the time to say, okay, I'm going to do cross food in the morning, boxing in the evening.

I could do that because I don't have a job right now. And let me tell you something. The one thing about my dad is he was all about the money. He said, how do you spell love? That's what my dad used to say to me. I said, L-O-V-E, dad, you know? He goes, no, M-O-N-E-Y. That's how you spell love.

And I used to say, yeah, the money's right. I'm doing it. Don't get a twist that. I'm definitely will get, you know, dust off these boxing gloves and get the train in and do it. What are some of the other lessons that he's instilled in you that you still have with you now? You know, I definitely learn so much of how to be humble, how to be on your own, how to have respect for everyone.

You know, a lot of people, and I think it's hard now, people in the world are so, how can I say, disrespectful at times or just don't care or don't have a heart or don't have love. And my dad, he has such a big heart. That's where I get it from. And he always taught me how to hold myself, how to be myself, but also how to hold myself professionally and how to talk to people and how to address people. And those are things I'm very thankful for because. you don't have a lot of people in the world that instill that in their kids at a young age. You know, when I used to want to like get my ear pierce or have my pants swagging off my butt and things like that, when I was like, cool, my dad was like, no, that's not, that's not happening.

You know, he taught me the Southern way, you know, how to be a gentleman, how to be respectful, how to hold myself, you know, accountable, things that, you know, I wouldn't, did some people don't learn. they learn now. So I'm very happy that he taught me the things that I needed to know at a young age. And those are things that are going to go with me forever, you know. And then also just how to take care of people around you, you know, because those are the people that are going to be with you for the rest of your life. Family, friends, anyone that you care about, you know, to do that. and make sure that you hold on to those people because sometimes you never know. Your time can come where you close your eyes and you never know things.

So he taught me so much about that. And life lessons, of course. And how to work on a car and how to protect myself, you know, how to fight, you know, how to kill my money, you know, things like that. He taught me. And thank God that he sent me to military school when I was young because that helped too. My mother made that decision. Actually, he went along with it.

At first he was like, I don't want to. to go and my mom's like no he's going so you know i'm very thankful that i have the father and mother that i have to um that i have today because i wouldn't be the derrick that i am he must be so interesting to you that he's left this huge indelible mark on your life and also on so many other people you know who never met him like he has impacted all of these strangers lives all around the world yeah yeah it's powerful to know how how people like when they talk about my dad, I love hearing it.

It's always refreshing where I can go out or go to an event and I talk to people and they're just like, oh my God, Big Dee, I love you and Big Brother. And we talk about Big Brother and then they're like, I love your dad. I was shocked to hear you were smoking Joe Frazier's son and, you know, talking about things that only people

that are real fans would know because I would know these things because of what my dad used to say And me understanding boxing and knowing, you know, his stats and his, you know, background and things like that. That's always refreshing. And then another thing, just teaching these young group of kids who my dad is, you know, I talk about him a lot on. I did like a segment, I think, with my best friend on the regular DeGlea show that I do on YouTube and then also podcast. I did this and we were talking about our dads. And he always cracks a joke about,

oh, my dad's famous. My dad's a car salesman. And then I'm like, yeah, my dad's no one. He's just a legend in boxing. But it's just great to, you know, always see these kids that are young that watch Big Brother and then don't know who he is and then go look him up. And they're like, wait, your dad beat Muhammad Ali.

You know, there's so many cool things that I'm so thankful that I have this platform to be able to keep those young kids engage and also keeping them understanding the history because some people don't know the history. What is your go-to story about your dad? Because I imagine everybody else's story is the Ali fight. Of course. I would say my one go-to story is there was a time that I told my dad, I'm going to kick your ass.

Yes. For real. Yes, I did. Are you crazy? And I remember being like, okay, I'm going to kick your ass, sure. And he was like, all right, you say you're going to kick my ass. Then we're going to go in the ring and see what you can do. And he got in the ring with me.

And I remember just had my hands up. And I threw one punch and the rest was history. He knocked me out and told my mom I fell down the stairs. I was out for like a whole day. But I'll never forget it. And I never being like, okay, I see why they caught a level up. I see why people's jaws get broken. I see why this man is dangerous.

And of course, like, he didn't hit me with full force, but he hit me hard enough to like, to the point that I was like out for a day. And you would probably never try to fight your dad again after that. No, no. There's three people I'm scared of in my life. And that is God himself, my father and my mother. That was the only three people I'm scared of. I'm scared of nobody else or anything or being or whatnot.

That was the only three people. So I definitely learned my lesson. Definitely did. What could have possibly angered you enough to think you could step into the ring with smoking Joe Frazier? I think I was just mad because I wanted something my dad did he give to me and I was pissed. That was so angry. Yeah, I mean, even though he's your dad, he's still smoking Joe. Yeah, I was very upset, very annoyed.

I was like, dad, why? Why can I have this? Every time you talk to me, you never let me just live my life. Like, you know, when the kids go through the phase of, you never let me live my life. You know, so I think I was like, I wanted to hang out with so and so. You wouldn't let me live my life. And I'm just, you know, I was mad. And I was just like, I'll beat you up, you know, because I'm thinking my dad because he's older.

And I'm like this youth, you know, you teenager, you know, I'm like, as they say in the South or like, as we say in the black community a lot, oh, I'm smelling my. myself, you know, like, it's a thing. Like, I'm smelling myself now. I think I'm like, hot shit. Like, I can do whatever I want, you know, and I learned my lesson real quick, real quick, real quick. So it was definitely something as a memory. And, of course, I remember all the times of, you know, going on car rides with my dad around Philadelphia, like seeing every inch of Philadelphia, there was not a part of Philadelphia.

My father never touched. And taking me to New York and New Jersey. and, you know, all these events in Washington, D.C. and going to these, like, other amateur boxing matches. I remember, like, going to amateur boxing matches or boxing matches in general. And literally, we would get there right before the boxing match. And we would cause an hour delay because everyone's like, Joe Frazier's here. Oh, my God, I got to get a picture.

I got to talk to stuff. Like, it was insane. It was insane. Insane. I still, now that we're, like, talking about it, I can literally, see it and remember those nights of driving in the white Cadillac going around Philadelphia and my dad. It was

just, it was just fantastic. Like between him and Rocky Balboa who's, you know, fictional boxer from well, you know, we don't like to talk about Rocky, but I know some people do. I mean, there's a statue of him, you know. Of course, for a fictional, a fake

character that's based off of whom. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah, based off of my father and a lot of people, you know, people that are from Philadelphia and know who smoke Joe Frazier is, they know that Rocky is based off of Joe Frazier. So, you know, it's good that people have that, you know, it's nice that we have a statue that people can come and see, but now my father has a statue.

So I'm always like, go see the real fighter of, you know, of Philadelphia boxing. You know, you can go see the fictional character and stuff like that, but go see the real fighter of Philadelphia. The United States Soccer Federation presents the U.S. Soccer Party. My name is David Goss, and I'm joined by my co-host, Megan Clemenberg. And now we're giving people an inside look at the World Cup. Time's ticking. I think you can feel the intensity.

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I don't think, I know people, Floyd Mayweather is, he is great. You know, I was very thankful for that. He always, you know, repaid, like, pays respect to the people in the game that have been near since the beginning. You know, of course,

him getting into the whole, him and the UFC fighter and all that, I didn't really understand that because I feel like Floyd has such a big name and such a, you know, he's made a name for himself. He's a household name and in the boxing industry that I wish that he would just keep it in the boxing world because right now in the boxing world, we're struggling. You know, a lot of people are into the UFC and, you know, now I think slap,

slap boxing is coming to. Yeah, Logan Paul started slap fighting. Yes, Arnold Schwarzenegger is a part owner too. Oh, okay. Yeah, see? I'm just, yeah, like all these things are opening up. And I get a little worry because I go, boxing is something that should be around forever, you know? And I feel like we don't have the names.

I don't feel like we have the young youth names that will keep it going. So I'm hoping that people and like, like I said, I know people are like, oh, hey, you get out there and do it. And I might, hold on now, I'm 30. But you're right. Like Floyd is, you know, he has certainly more fight, fights behind him that he has in front of him. Pinello is probably the same situation. It's interesting, though, that some of the biggest names in boxing right now are Jake Paul and Logan Ball. Which is a fucking joke.

It's a joke. They're definitely putting a lot of eyeballs on it. Yeah, those are, I would love to fuck them up, to be honest. Like, literally just, like, literally just demolish them. Because to me, it's just, it's a joke of itself. And on top of that, it's just like, I think the only reason that is is because of social media. You know, social media and because of the youth,

they don't really understand. It's like somebody can get on today and tomorrow and be like, I want to fight, you know, Foy Weather, you know, Foy Mayweather and mess them up. I want to fight Larry Holmes. I want to fight, you know, George Foreman, you know, like people want to just call out. And then everyone's like, hey, get someone so.

They want to fight you and let's do it. They don't have no experience. They got in the gym for, couple months and now they're going to get in the ring with someone who's put in a lot of work in time. So I just, I just think that's crazy to me. And I understand money. I understand entertainment. I get that. But I like that old school boxing, that old school feel because that's what keeps everything so where it should be. Like I like that you say, hey, I work my way up to get here. I don't mind the celebrity boxing matches. Those are all.

good and fun. You know, people get paid. It's for charity. It's all good and fun. But like a real boxing match on pay-per-view that people used to spend like 60, now $70, $50. Like, we, it should be people that have put in the time and the work to do that, that have took the time to work from the bottom up. And learning that from my father and seeing that, that's the only thing I respect. I don't respect anybody that's just like, you know, I do, you know, social media. I train from, a few months and I had about three fights so I'm going to get in the ring with a legend. I don't respect people like that.

I think you've got to work your way, work from the bottom on your way up. And that means you're going to have times that you're going to lose fights. You're going to win fights. No one's perfect in the boxing, in the boxing world. Even the legends have lost fights and won fights.

So it's just like people like Jake and Logan to me will never get the respect. And that's coming from a Frazier. I don't care. Sounds like you're calling. it matters what it sounds like. If they ever are ready for,

if they ever want me to get in the ring with them, absolutely, but they're going to have to put a lot of time because they're not, they're fighting a legend son. They're not just fighting each other or fighting someone off of TikTok. They're lucky.

One of them are lucky they even got an opportunity to even meet with Floyd Mayweather. That was like, that was nice. That was, Floyd was doing charity for them. That was nice. That was very, very nice.

I think Floyd made, a lot of money off that. But that's what I'm saying. That's another thing. Like when there's money involved. M-O-N-E-Y, right? Right. How do you spell love?

Let's do it one time. M-O-E-Y, right. So it's like, I don't know if I, of course, if someone calls me out for sure. I will entertain you. I will train, entertain you, whatever you need me to do. But just know, I'm not dropping. 100-something pounds to get in the ring with you. You either going to fight me like the big man I am

or I don't know what to tell you. Because that's like me saying, oh, I need you to lose 100-something pounds. Or I need you to gain 100-something pounds then. So I don't know what you want me to do. So, you know, and I come from the streets of Philadelphia. So, you know, I got a mixture of the Frasier, but I got a mixture of the streets.

I will hurt somebody if I need to. So where you're, I'm guessing it's not, boxing right now, but where are your sights set? Now that you've come off of Big Brother 23, what are you looking at? What are you looking for? I really do want to get back on TV. I'm hoping that I could do some of these competition shows. There's so many competition shows out here.

You know, I would love to do, oh, my God, I can't believe what I said. I would like to do Big Brother again, but I want to wait into All-Stars, you know, because I feel like I'm an All-Star at this point. Big D, of course. Right. So it's like I want to do All-Stars. If not, I would love to do MTV to Challenge. I feel like there hasn't been a big guy on MTV to Challenge since Big Easy. And I feel like we need to get out of this stigma. Like we live in this world that unless you walk around with a six-pack that you're the only people that can compete. And I feel like that's not fair because that's not what America looks like.

I know guys, I know like guys meet and other big guys that work out that can literally throw around 500, 500 plus deadlifts and stuff like that. It's not always about endurance. Sometimes it comes down to strength or mental, puzzles, things like that, or social. So I'm hoping I get the opportunity to do the challenge. That's something I really want to do. It's always been a dream of mine since I was a kid. or if not, I would like to do Amazing Race with my best friend that I do the regular Douglas show with.

I just want to be back in the entertainment world. I love hosting too. And he taught someone gives me a mic, oh, baby, get ready for a good time. It's a rap. People that are just listening to this, though. How big are you? I mean, they call me Big D for a reason, so I'm going to be delusional and say I'm very, very big.

But are you talking about big as a big, in my head or big in. Oh, no. I'm not saying you need to tell me your exact weight here, but like when you stand next to a normal person like me. I'm about a good, I'm 5-11 and I'm 330 pounds. Big man.

Yeah. So I'm a big guy. But when people look at me, they're like, you're 330 pounds you don't look like. And I'm like, thank you so much. You're like,

I move like a cruiser weight. I'm like, I move quick though. I sprint, I run, I hit, um, you know,

I do like, I have. had a burpees workout today. And, you know, it's been, I think it's been three and a half weeks now, me getting back into the gym, getting myself together, because I'm like, hey, I'm going to get myself together in case anybody calls me and it's like, we want you to do this competition show or things like that. Because I believe that you could be a big person, but you want to make sure you're a good-looking big person. You can hold yourself up. You got the chest. You look good. you're like, yeah, I'm strong.

So I would say like I was doing purpose today, and it was like, okay, I'm moving. Like two weeks ago, first day, after taking off, I took off like nine months of not working out. I remember being like, whoo, that day, that week one, kick my ass and cross with it. And now that I could feel myself moving again and sprinting and being able to like catch my breath real quick and go again and go again.

So I really would hope that. I get the opportunity to do another competition show, either that being the challenge on MTV, I would love to do that, or, you know, hosting gigs or any other reality shows. I think I'm more meant for reality TV because I love entertaining. I love making people laugh.

If there ever is a celebrity boxing match and the money is right, and I can train for it, I'll do it. I would look, I think there's nothing but opportunity in front of you, Big D. And it's just a matter of what happens in the next handful of months. I know. And your agent to capitalize on that.

I know. And it's hard because I'm in a don't know where type of, I feel like I could do, like I wear multiple hats. I can do whatever. You want me to dance? I'll dance. You want me to sing. I'll entertain.

You want me to work out and work out. You want me to, you know, look good pose for facial creams, whatever you. need me to do. I'll do it. You know, I feel like I really do have that niche that a lot of people don't have. It comes natural. It's not like faith or like. Yeah, I mean, anybody that's looking at this right now is going, man, this man, this man's charisma. She's coming through the screen. Thank you. Thank you. And I just want people to do when I talk to people, I'm so real and so like right here with you that sometimes I think people are like, I think that's why I'm. I'm, I had half America that loved me

and half an America that didn't like me because they were like, I don't care. Big D's very entertaining. I love him. He brings a lot to the show. Yeah. And I think I broke a lot of barriers because there has never been a guy my size on reality TV as much.

You don't really see that. You know, you really want like the goops and the gimmicks. The people that look like, you know, they got a thousand plastic surgeries for perfection. You know, that's what people, see on TV all the time. And I'm just like, that's not what America looks like. And the fact that when I

did it, there were so many fans and so many people out there, I remember going to the bar for the first time after Big Brother. I went up by myself because I was like, I love y'all. But I just stayed in the house with you all for three and a half months. I need to go out by myself

in L.A. and like for one night. And I went to the gay bar. I went with the Bear community, which is like the big guys. And they all, I walked in and they all started clapping and I was shocked because there has, there's not a lot of guys or women that are plus size that get seen on TV as much. And it was refreshing for a lot of people to see somebody, even though when it came to some of these physical challenges, I was like, now y'all know I'm not going to be able to do good

at this. I don't know why y'all thought so. But there was times where there was challenges that were for me. And then there was times that challenges were not meant for me. And I think that people were happy to see that. And I want to continue that. That's why I want to be a public figure, continue showing my face, continue entertaining,

and continue breaking those barriers. And if that's me doing another competition show, great. If that's me doing a celebrity boxing match, not a problem. And I mean, anyone that gets in the ring with me, they should be very thankful. because I'm excited for everything. I'm excited for everything you have in front of you because it's just going to be exciting watching this journey. Thank you.

So I'm hoping that I could get some more opportunities and whatnot. And right now I've just been focused on, you know, my brand that I do with my best friend, which is the regular DeGlea show on YouTube. You know, we just took like a month break off to focus on editing and doing some of our videos. We came back from Cali. And focusing on my fitness, making sure, you know, if I'm going to be a big dude, I've got to make sure I can move. So, doing a lot of sprint training, interval training, you know, lifting, things like that. That's the great thing about CrossFit because I get everything I need in one workout and I go five days out a week.

And just trying to get ready in case someone literally calls me and it's like, hey, we want you on this competition show or. like you said, you know, one of the somebody who, the two jokesters, you know, actually want to give me the time or day or somebody else want to give me the time or day that feels like they want to get in the ring and be able to say, hey, I knocked out Joe Frasier's son, which is not going to happen. But, you know, just things like that because that's a big deal to be able to say I got in the ring with Joe Frazier's son. Yeah.

So regular, regular show on YouTube. Where else can people find you? You can find me at the Derek Frazier on Instagram, the Derek Frazier on Twitter. If you want to send me money on VEMO, just let me know. You could DM me. And then also on my TikTok and my YouTube, it is the regular, degler show. And you can't miss me because, I mean, it's literally me and my twin, who I call my twin, he's just white on the show. So, yeah, come check me out, guys.

I'm entertaining. I do random IG lives. Right now, you'll see me every day talking about, you know, you'll see me every day talking about my fitness right now. So I've been posting a lot on that, trying to take people with my journey. Right now I'm in day 21. Just try and show people, hey, just every day do something.

It's going to make you better. And just also showing people that, hey, I'm strong dude. Yeah. If you're going to come from me, I'm going to hit you hard. So, yeah. Question that I end every conversation with is the same. I love gratitude.

So I start and end every day saying out loud three things that I'm grateful for. So for you, Big D, what are three things in your life that you're grateful for right now? I'm grateful for my mother. Very thankful for my mother. My mother is my rock. She does everything for me. I don't know how I would live without her, even though she drives me at the wall at times. But I'm very grateful for my mom.

mother. I'm grateful that I can wake up every day and that the fact that I can be able to see the world and the fact that I have a roof above my head because I know there's people out there that don't have that. And what else I would say? I would say that this is a good question, by the way. You don't think this way all the time. This is good. It's like this helps you to go, hey, I do have a lot of things in my life. Yeah. I would say that I'm very grateful for just the support that I have. A lot of people don't have that type of support.

And I'm grateful for that. And the platform that I receive, the platform that I receive definitely is, it's like wonderful. Because a lot of people don't get this opportunity. A lot of people will love. to have a platform where you have a bunch of people, there's always someone to talk to you, never by yourself. And people that want to actually engage with you

and support and things like that. So I'm very grateful for the platform that I receive coming off here. And just the determination. I always tell people, don't ever give up on things that you want to do, no matter if you end up doing it by yourself or people don't have the same mindset as you, focused on what you want and what you want to do in life and the rest will come with it. So that's my little thing I'll leave with you.

That's a great way to end this. So Big D. Derek Frazier. Thank you so much, man. This was great. Thank you so much for taking the opportunity to talk to me, little old me. I appreciate that a lot. Thank you. There we go.

Big thank you to Big D for joining us on this one. Of course, a big thank you to you. without you, none of this is possible. Snap a screenshot. Let us know what stood out for you the most. Let us know that you are listening and tag us online so we can share it. Derek is at the V. Derek Frazier. I'm at Chris Van Fleet. And if this is your first episode of Insight, I really hope you enjoyed it.

And I hope you enjoyed it enough to subscribe and also to dive into the back catalog of 334 other episodes. I will leave you with a quote from Derek's very famous father, Smoke and Joe who said champions aren't made in the ring. They are merely recognized there. What you cheat on in the early light of morning will show up in the ring under the bright lights.

Whether you're a boxer or not, that applies to every aspect of life. Right? How you do anything is how you do everything. If you want to cheat in practice, it's going to show in the game. Hmm, so good. Be great. Be grateful. Have an amazing day. We will see. you on the next one for some more insight.

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